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OOC: Looking for war with nation that is around 5 million to 15 million

Norse Country
01-02-2006, 23:45
Like the heading says. I would like to have a war with a MT nation that ranges in size from 5 million to 15 million.

Please telegram me or post here if you want.

And if you are bigger than this, just say if you want to provide aid ro assist one of the combatants and both combatants will have to accept you in a telegram or here.
Norse Country
02-02-2006, 00:04
Anyone?
Amazonian Beasts
02-02-2006, 00:05
OOC: There really aren't that many of those...
Hobbeebia
02-02-2006, 00:08
OOC:Keep asking and you'll attract Raven or Kraven, Maybe both. Thats een the trend lately. ask for help or look for a war. And Bam. You're getting attacked.
Resurrected Danu
02-02-2006, 00:42
OOC:Why do you want a war?
Where is your Nation located?
What type of technology do you have?
What type of War are you looking for?
What could a possible reason be?

We might be interested in doing this.
Luchamos
02-02-2006, 00:47
OCC: Yeah, you may have issues finding that small of a nation, but good luck. We got 334 mil and could be interested in doing a small conflict
Raven corps
02-02-2006, 01:22
I would be happy to have a small conflict with you. I will use only one of my Security forces units, which holds

Pre-engagment launching:
40 Nemesis-9 virus bio-weapons
40 Ventum-4 envi-bio-weapons
3000 intercepter high heat burning rocket escorts
2000 Black widow YF-23 escorts

Grounds troops:
300,000 troops
50,000 logistics and medical
60,000 in assorted Personel
40,000 in anti-air defence systems personel

Navy:
50 long range missile destroyers
200 short range missile destroyers
40 battlecrusiers
50 battleships
2 super dreads.
5 Hydro class Carriers? 30 Black widows per.
3000 large troop trans.

Airforce:
3000 Orca attack craft
6000 Orca troop and supply trans.
3000 Black Widow support craft.
Jenrak
02-02-2006, 01:30
OOC: I believe I am 5 to 15 million in population. Therefore I would be a suitable target.
Amestria
02-02-2006, 01:35
I suggest you have one of your friends create a suitable puppet and RP it.
Jenrak
02-02-2006, 01:40
I suggest you have one of your friends create a suitable puppet and RP it.

OOC: Or he can fight me because I am a small country.
The Xeno
02-02-2006, 01:50
I would be happy to have a small conflict with you. I will use only one of my Security forces units, which holds

Pre-engagment launching:
40 Nemesis-9 virus bio-weapons
40 Ventum-4 envi-bio-weapons
3000 intercepter high heat burning rocket escorts
2000 Black widow YF-23 escorts

Grounds troops:
300,000 troops
50,000 logistics and medical
60,000 in assorted Personel
40,000 in anti-air defence systems personel

Navy:
50 long range missile destroyers
200 short range missile destroyers
40 battlecrusiers
50 battleships
2 super dreads.
5 Hydro class Carriers? 30 Black widows per.
3000 large troop trans.

Airforce:
3000 Orca attack craft
6000 Orca troop and supply trans.
3000 Black Widow support craft.

OOC: Raven never fails to make me laugh. He's just so patheticly unrealistic that I sometimes laugh out-loud whenever I stumble on one of his posts.
Raven corps
02-02-2006, 01:52
And you are?...... The Xeno? And I make you laugh. Well my very wierd friend you have a very morbid idea of funny....
Amazonian Beasts
02-02-2006, 01:54
I would be happy to have a small conflict with you. I will use only one of my Security forces units, which holds

Pre-engagment launching:
40 Nemesis-9 virus bio-weapons
40 Ventum-4 envi-bio-weapons
3000 intercepter high heat burning rocket escorts
2000 Black widow YF-23 escorts

Grounds troops:
300,000 troops
50,000 logistics and medical
60,000 in assorted Personel
40,000 in anti-air defence systems personel

Navy:
50 long range missile destroyers
200 short range missile destroyers
40 battlecrusiers
50 battleships
2 super dreads.
5 Hydro class Carriers? 30 Black widows per.
3000 large troop trans.

Airforce:
3000 Orca attack craft
6000 Orca troop and supply trans.
3000 Black Widow support craft.

Raven, I think you would still win hands-down.
The Xeno
02-02-2006, 01:57
Raven, I think you would still win hands-down.

Anyone can "win" with super-army spam. Doesn't make it any more-realistic, doesn't make it sensible, and doesn't make it non-pathetic either. ;)

Anyone can say, "Okay, my nation now owns 4,000 SUPER DREADNAUGHTS THAT ARE 2 MILES LONG AND HAVE ENOUGH WEAPONS TO DESTROY TEH WORLD!!ONE!1" in NS. There's nothing to regulate it.

The true RPer wouldn't do that, though.
Raven corps
02-02-2006, 01:57
yea. I know. But other still like to bash my way of posting troops deployments. And I say again. If you laugh at my posts( and I hope your laughing at how I wrote something, and not what I wrote.) you have a very morbid sense of funny.
The Xeno
02-02-2006, 02:00
yea. I know. But other still like to bash my way of posting troops deployments. And I say again. If you laugh at my posts( and I hope your laughing at how I wrote something, and not what I wrote.) you have a very morbid sense of funny.

Actually, I'm laughing at -what- you wrote. Not the way you wrote it. I believe I've seen it referred to as "tech-wanking".
Raven corps
02-02-2006, 02:01
Anyone can "win" with super-army spam. Doesn't make it any more-realistic, doesn't make it sensible, and doesn't make it non-pathetic either. ;)

Anyone can say, "Okay, my nation now owns 4,000 SUPER DREADNAUGHTS THAT ARE 2 MILES LONG AND HAVE ENOUGH WEAPONS TO DESTROY TEH WORLD!!ONE!1" in NS. There's nothing to regulate it.

The true RPer wouldn't do that, though.

I am a war bent super corporation with employees numbering in the billions. I sent only 2 dreads I own 10 And I deployed 2 to the lone Alliance thread so I only have 6 left.. And they are not 2 miles long. And I dont have enough guns to destroy the world. And if I went as far as to say I have to resources of at least 3 full member nations. I could have more. This is a small chuck of my security forces.....
Amazonian Beasts
02-02-2006, 02:01
yea. I know. But other still like to bash my way of posting troops deployments. And I say again. If you laugh at my posts( and I hope your laughing at how I wrote something, and not what I wrote.) you have a very morbid sense of funny.

I must have a morbid sense of funny then.
Raven corps
02-02-2006, 02:03
I would say so.... I kill children and I brainwash other of your own nation to kill their families. If you find that funny- I know a good doctor..lol
The Xeno
02-02-2006, 02:05
I am a war bent super corporation with employees numbering in the billions. I sent only 2 dreads I own 10 And I deployed 2 to the lone Alliance thread so I only have 6 left.. And they are not 2 miles long. And I dont have enough guns to destroy the world. And if I went as far as to say I have to resources of at least 3 full member nations. I could have more. This is a small chuck of my security forces.....

There's no balance of forces there at all. None. 300,000 ground troops supported by like 200 ships and 10,000 air assets? Hehe. Just because you've been registered to NS for a long time, doesn't make you realistic when it comes to the military.

Like I said, I just laugh out-loud whenever I happen upon your little "Ooh look at my army!" posts scattered here and there. ^.^
Amazonian Beasts
02-02-2006, 02:05
I would say so.... I kill children and I brainwash other of your own nation to kill their families. If you find that funny- I know a good doctor..lol
Heh, I don't want to meet that doctor then...I find the mass murders and genocides funny, even the n00b ones, so it all adds up...
Raven corps
02-02-2006, 02:08
There's no balance of forces there at all. None. 300,000 ground troops supported by like 200 ships and 10,000 air assets? Hehe. Just because you've been registered to NS for a long time, doesn't make you realistic when it comes to the military.

Like I said, I just laugh out-loud whenever I happen upon your little "Ooh look at my army!" posts scattered here and there. ^.^

its atleast 3000 troop trans and they would make trips back and forth. That isa little bit more then 200. and I happen to like large air numbers.:)
Juumanistra
02-02-2006, 02:10
See, I'd be laughing not because of Raven's vaguely wankish numbers or the vagueness of the weapons he's using(though they are good for a laugh). I'd be laughing because he's deploying Ventum-4, a biological agent that's so far over the line that it succeeds in circumnavigating some unknown till now space and winds up back where it started. Not to reopen old arguments, but Ventum-4 has one of the biggest IGNORE cannon targets on it in II.
The Kraven Corporation
02-02-2006, 02:13
OOC:Keep asking and you'll attract Raven or Kraven, Maybe both. Thats een the trend lately. ask for help or look for a war. And Bam. You're getting attacked.

Yes, Generaly you will attract Kraven to your nation when requesting a War, Kraven doesn't care for "Codes of Honour" or Small Conflicts, when it comes to the Goals of Fathers (Insane Logic) Logic that is undeniable... Those goals will be accomplished no matter the cost.

But considering your nation is called "Norse County" and OOC i have a passion for Norsk mythology, I may spare you.... For now...

Mwahaha...

And Welcome to nationstates... Hope you enjoy it, Any Questions feel free to TG me.
Raven corps
02-02-2006, 02:15
And how many people came to my aid in the debate......? Ventum-4 is going through some changes and it will make it more usable. And they are not that wank. 5% non-conscript military by 2.473 billion= 123,650,000 in military alone. And I did not leave out logistics or medical I even threw assorted personnel. Now If I said all of the numbers are ground troops with no other means of transport, or logistics or medical, it would have been wanked out of the universe.....
The Xeno
02-02-2006, 02:16
See, I'd be laughing not because of Raven's vaguely wankish numbers or the vagueness of the weapons he's using(though they are good for a laugh). I'd be laughing because he's deploying Ventum-4, a biological agent that's so far over the line that it succeeds in circumnavigating some unknown till now space and winds up back where it started. Not to reopen old arguments, but Ventum-4 has one of the biggest IGNORE cannon targets on it in II.

Pretty well summed up. I honestly don't know why Raven is allowed to RP in II at all with his level of wankism that he flaunts as though it were original, or took some kind of skill to think up.
The Macabees
02-02-2006, 02:17
Logistics are normally in a higher proportion to your frontline soldiers. If you're interested, check out this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=393153), which I wrote sometime ago.
The Scandinvans
02-02-2006, 02:18
This thread will either turn into a arugment, a war, a discussion, or a party. And all of them are pretty dang good fun.
The Macabees
02-02-2006, 02:18
Pretty well summed up. I honestly don't know why Raven is allowed to RP in II at all with his level of wankism that he flaunts as though it were original, or took some kind of skill to think up.

The good thing about I.I. is that it remains open, despite past experiences, meaning anybody that does 'wank' can always improve, without being scrutinized.
Raven corps
02-02-2006, 02:19
normally yes but my soldiers normally have a very why of doing thing, plus it gives my men a weakness. If my logictics are cut off My men are most of the time screwed.
Amazonian Beasts
02-02-2006, 02:21
Pretty well summed up. I honestly don't know why Raven is allowed to RP in II at all with his level of wankism that he flaunts as though it were original, or took some kind of skill to think up.
Because it's hilarious to lose to Kraven/Raven. I have experiance from that.
The Macabees
02-02-2006, 02:22
normally yes but my soldiers normally have a very why of doing thing, plus it gives my men a weakness. If my logictics are cut off My men are most of the time screwed.

You can cut off the logistics to an army with a 7:1 logistics to frontline ratio, and they will be screwed. The only weakness your army has is the inability to support itself under intense and long term combat; in other words, an army so poorly supplied and maintained will collapse under its own weight.
DMG
02-02-2006, 02:23
normally yes but my soldiers normally have a very why of doing thing, plus it gives my men a weakness. If my logictics are cut off My men are most of the time screwed.

I don't think it is a question of if... You simply don't have enough to even support your military.
Raven corps
02-02-2006, 02:25
Thats my main weakness. If you can last the fast movments you can repel us. Raven corps moves fast in thier attacks, it when we get stuck we begin to break apart.
Amazonian Beasts
02-02-2006, 02:27
Thats my main weakness. If you can last the fast movments you can repel us. Raven corps moves fast in thier attacks, it when we get stuck we begin to break apart.
Thank you for that, I will exploit you in the Frenzia war...jk. Or maybe not.
Raven corps
02-02-2006, 02:28
now if we gain a good foot hold we begin to move more Logistic and other teams in the the area. We just dont like to have them there if we dont have good hold on an area. Just more we have to move back.
Whittier---
02-02-2006, 02:29
I am 20 million is that ok?
Frenzia
02-02-2006, 02:30
normally yes but my soldiers normally have a very why of doing thing, plus it gives my men a weakness. If my logictics are cut off My men are most of the time screwed.


Thank you i'll be trying that.
Raven corps
02-02-2006, 02:31
I have a foot hold....your town. :)
Juumanistra
02-02-2006, 02:37
Thats my main weakness. If you can last the fast movments you can repel us. Raven corps moves fast in thier attacks, it when we get stuck we begin to break apart.

Fast-moving forces are even more logistics intensive than slow-moving ones due to the massive resource consumption by armored and mechanized vehicles. Given your logistics ratio, you're looking at WWI army speeds, if even that. Probably closer to Napoleonic, actually.
Raven corps
02-02-2006, 02:40
Fast-moving forces are even more logistics intensive than slow-moving ones due to the massive resource consumption by armored and mechanized vehicles. Given your logistics ratio, you're looking at WWI army speeds, if even that. Probably closer to Napoleonic, actually.

Refer to post 36
The Xeno
02-02-2006, 02:40
Fast-moving forces are even more logistics intensive than slow-moving ones due to the massive resource consumption by armored and mechanized vehicles. Given your logistics ratio, you're looking at WWI army speeds, if even that. Probably closer to Napoleonic, actually.

QFT.
Whittier---
02-02-2006, 02:40
I've changed some of the stats I rp with.
My air force statistics are now 125:1 cause that's how it is in the rw.
Norse Country
02-02-2006, 03:10
Jenrak because you are the first to respond as a 5-15 million, you can fight my nation.

If anyone else wants to join in a short war please do.

And it will be MT war.
Norse Country
02-02-2006, 03:11
Whitter if you also want to participate, it could be a three sided war?
Jenrak
02-02-2006, 03:17
Jenrak because you are the first to respond as a 5-15 million, you can fight my nation.

If anyone else wants to join in a short war please do.

And it will be MT war.

Okay my actual nation is around 2-3 billion around there, but I'll be using the Arguns as my nation. So it'll look like I'm posting, but I'm referring to the Arguns when I say anything.
Norse Country
02-02-2006, 03:18
Is Argun one of your nations?
Jenrak
02-02-2006, 03:21
Is Argun one of your nations?

Yep.

http://www.nationstates.net/arguns
Norse Country
02-02-2006, 03:21
Okay I agree to a war with Arguns.
Jenrak
02-02-2006, 03:27
Okay when do you want to start?

Remember, for post count purposes, I will still be using the Jenrak account, but it'll referred to as the Arguns.
Resurrected Danu
02-02-2006, 04:05
OOC:WTF?
What am I? Chopped Liver?
I have 14 million population....
Guess I don't count.
Oh well.
Whittier---
02-02-2006, 04:08
Whitter if you also want to participate, it could be a three sided war?
thanks. What is the war going to be over? And where is it? And do you want there to be alliances?
Just wondering cause if you want alliances, Resurrected Danu could probably come in and we could support opposing sides.
Of GDI and NOD
02-02-2006, 04:14
*grins* what if Im 1.7 billion but only used a very very small percentage of my forces...and that way I keep most at home in case of counter attack so there would be no taking over and....you get your war?
Norse Country
02-02-2006, 04:31
thanks. What is the war going to be over? And where is it? And do you want there to be alliances?
Just wondering cause if you want alliances, Resurrected Danu could probably come in and we could support opposing sides.

Territory basically.

I am in the Pacific so far.

Sure.

Resurrected Danu can be an alliance.

I will post the thread now.
Whyatica
02-02-2006, 04:37
You can war my puppet The Spectrum if you're so inclined...

I'm making them out to be rogue forces that split off of my nation when Kraven took over..

They've taken a former Whyatican holding in the Pacific Ocean, and there will be numerous skirmishes between my main nation and my puppet..

Their fleet is 1 capital ship and 100 escorts, with only about 100,000 ground troops for landings.

Interested?
Whittier---
02-02-2006, 05:11
Territory basically.

I am in the Pacific so far.

Sure.

Resurrected Danu can be an alliance.

I will post the thread now.
cool. whittier is located where the western us and western mexico are. Except for baja of course.

How are you doing your military for this thread?
Norse Country
02-02-2006, 06:35
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466586

Thread for war between

Arguns vs Whittier and Norse Country.

It will be modern technology, through ships, air planes and soldiers.
Jenrak
02-02-2006, 13:19
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466586

Thread for war between

Arguns vs Whittier and Norse Country.

It will be modern technology, through ships, air planes and soldiers.

I'll get on it once I'm back from school.
Zackaroth
02-02-2006, 13:28
OOC:Keep asking and you'll attract Raven or Kraven, Maybe both. Thats een the trend lately. ask for help or look for a war. And Bam. You're getting attacked.



OOC: do you mean Kraven Corps? kraven corps is busy with AMF. And so far i don't think he wants to supply anyone to any type of war big or small due to the damage and the rebellion now starting.
Resurrected Danu
02-02-2006, 13:39
Territory basically.

I am in the Pacific so far.

Sure.

Resurrected Danu can be an alliance.

I will post the thread now.

OOC:OK That works. I will work on my forces and be ready to start the scrum.
Frenzia
02-02-2006, 16:19
OOC: do you mean Kraven Corps? kraven corps is busy with AMF. And so far i don't think he wants to supply anyone to any type of war big or small due to the damage and the rebellion now starting.

He may be at war with other people but he is still going to make time to kick my ass.
The Kraven Corporation
02-02-2006, 16:27
He may be at war with other people but he is still going to make time to kick my ass.

Kraven Exists for War and War Alone (There are reasons to this that I am Exploring in my History thread) I have Resources a Plenty to Wage War against Many Opponents, Although I am carefull not to take too much on and overstretch my forces.