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Trouble in the Barents [Earth II, ATTN Pushka]

Cotland
01-02-2006, 23:12
The aging Devlin Flight I class destroyer cruised in the terrifying Artic waters, moving slowly through the waves in the choppy black Barents Sea. It's position was roughly 77 nautical miles west of Severnaya Zemlya, still a good distance from the Russian territorial water claim. Still, if it chose to engage, it was well within range of the missiles the elderly Devlin carried. This was going to be its last mission, with decomissioning scheduled for three weeks from now.

Just as it was to manouver to avoid entering the territorial waters around Severnaya Zemlya, there was a warning from the engine room. The engines had just gone haywire!

"Engineering, Bridge. What's the status?"

"It's a no-go sir. We need to get to a shipyard to fix this. The gas turbines are dead. Bad fuel sir."

"Crap! So essentially, you're saying that we can't manouver."

"Indeed sir." came the answer from the engine room, causing the skipper of the Devlin to fret.

"OK, thanks chief. Do what you can."

"Will do sir."

The situation was becoming grim. The current poor weather conditions were going to draw the Devlin with it into Russian waters if they couldn't get the engines working again. The mission of the Devlin had been to gather intelligence, something which it had done for several days now. The information on the Devlin was very sensitive, and could not fall into Russian hands. Still, if they didn't do something, there was no chance they would survive. The Russians were paranoid enough to not believe the skipper when he told the Russians the situation. He had quite a dilemma on his hands. Either do nothing and be sunk by the Russians when they came close enough to Russian territorial waters, call the Russians and risk compromizing the national security of the Kingdom, or scuttle the destroyer and risk the lives of his crew in the stormy Barents Sea.

After three hours and twelve nautical miles of drift, the officers unanimously decided to issue a general distress call and take the problems when they occured. The entire ship was on emergency power since the gas turbines which powered the ships systems were dead. The way the Norwegians figured, they had ten hours and fifteen minutes untill they entered Russian territorial waters. No Norwegian ship was within range, so it would all be up to the Russians to save the Norwegians. Over the short-range emergency radio which had a range of 100 nautical miles, the following transmission was heard on the emergency frequency.

"Mayday, mayday, mayday. This is the Royal Norwegian Navy destroyer 'Fusa' request immediate assistance. We are dead in the water. I repeat, mayday, mayday, mayday. We request immediate assistance."
Pushka
02-02-2006, 03:48
Vice-Admiral Kiril Shrapkov was not enjoying his post as the head of naval rescue operations for the Arctic Fleet of Russian VMS. He had the heart and soul of a 1st rank destroyer Captain and seating all day in his well ventilated office did not bring him any sense of pride. I did not sign up for this he kept thinking to himself from day one. Now 14 years later he was still seating at his desk, reading the reports from his subordinates, yelling at them if they did something wrong and reporting to his superiors if the situation called for it, which it never did, until today. As he was dozzing off, trying to absorb the contents of the last report he had to read for today his phone rang.

Vice-Admiral: I am listening...a Norwegian vessel in distress....requesting assistance....follow the protocol on neutral foreign military vessels in distress. Contact razvedka (intelligence), give them the location of this cossack and tell them to track it via satelite, 24/7, i want fixed surveillance on that ship. Also send me over all the recon data we already have on vessels of that class. This all all. Svoboden.

"Order of the High Command of the VMS of the Russian Federation # 43" or how it was commonly called "the protocol on neutral foreign military vessels in distress" was a set of simple instructions on what to do then a foreign military vessel that belongs to a nation the Russian government has no current hostilities with, sends out a distress call. Order #43 stated that such a vessel is to be contacted and its exact status is to be confirmed, if the vessel has requested immediate assisnce then permission to rescue is to be requested from the vessel before any attempts are made to carry out a rescure operation. If the vessel in question grants the request it will either be given all the neccessary aid for it to be fixed at sea or hauled to the nearest port requested by the vessel in question. If the vessel does not grant the request it is to be left alone unless it crosses into the Russian Federation territory after which it will be either asked to leave, or if it is unable it will be forcibly hauled outside of Russian Federation waters far enough so the currents would not carry it back.

From: Naval Rescue Operations Center, Arctic Fleet of Russian Federation Voyeno Morskie Sili
To: Norwegian naval vessel, 'Fusa'
Subject: Request to attempt rescue operation

We request verification of your exact status and permission to attempt a rescue operation.
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 18:26
A SIGINT facility in Greenland downloaded its satellite data on time, to reveal an emergency communique from a Norwegian destroyer. It was still in international waters but getting close to Russian territorial waters. Given the past actions of the Russians they would declare its position in international waters a concern and probably attempt to board the vessel. This could not happen, especially since the vessel was probably well-classified under the Norwegian military.

Emergency Secret Dispatch to Norway

Satellite reconnaissance over the Barents Sea has discovered a distressed Devlin class destroyer. Location 77 miles west of Severnaya Zemlya. Russian involvement inevitable. We have a submarine in the area. Moving in position to assist. Prevention of Russian involvement is crucial.

Communications satellites beamed down encrypted messages to a Hunter SSN patrolling in the Arctic. It was close to the vessel, only 80 nautical miles away and could be there inside of four hours without raising so much as an eyebrow. It would have to make best "silent" speed towards the target, which was 20 knots, in order to ensure that the Russian navy didn't interrupt anything they weren't supposed to be seeing.
Hirgizstan
02-02-2006, 19:40
In Orbit above the Barents a COH satellite was picking up chatter from a Norwegian Vessel in difficulty. The COH could easily launch helicopters from bases in Russia to assisst the aircraft, and could send Submarines in to do a thorough check and help as much as possible.

Almost immediately the cogs of the military were working rapidly.

ENCRYPTED MESSAGE

LEVEL:MTSH

COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN

NAVAL HQ, VOLGOGRAD OBLAST

TO: NORWEGIAN VESSEL 'FUSA'

We have heard your message and have immediately deployed four submarines to secure your vessel and keep it safe until a rescue solution can be reached. We can immediately dispatch helicopters to help a rescue operation should you require it. They will be launched from a Naval Air Station in Russia.

MESSAGE ENDS

COH

A small number of COH submarines were on patrol around 200 miles from the stricken ship, near the Arctic. The group had been dispatched from Ireland around a week ago. There two Seawolf Class SSN's and two Vengeance Class SSBN's.

They all dived deeply and set a silent speed and headed out towards the vessel. They knew a vessel from the EOL was somewhere near, having seen it days earlier on the surface near Ireland, headed in the same direction.
Cotland
02-02-2006, 20:36
KNM Fusa (D125)

The Russians responded to the message almost immediately, easing the Captains mind a bit. Over the emergency radio, the responded.

"Russian Navy, permission is granted. Engine damage is severe. We await your rescue vessel. Over."

Oslo, Norway

At the Ministry of Defense in Oslo, the Layartebian message was recieved and read a few times. First by the communications people, then by the operations people, then by the Generals and Admirals, then by Minister of Defense John Alvheim.

"Is this a joke? Do we even have Devlins in the fleet?" Alvheim asked, disbelieving.

"Yes sir, we do have a old Devlin in the fleet. The Fusa. She's the last Devlin in operation and scheduled to decommission in sixteen days sir." an Admiral answered, having asked the same question five minutes prior.

"Pass this on to District Command North. Tell them it's top priority." Alvheim ordered. The flag officers nodded and issued the necessary orders.

LK Nord-Norge HQ, Somewhere in northern Norway

Landsdelskommando Nord-Norge (District Command North) was a flurry of activity. The orders had been recieved, and they stated that the Russian Federation were trying to hijack the Fusa. Somewhere along the way, things got mixed up. Any naval vessel the Norwegians had would take at least 14 hours to reach the Fusas position, by which time it would be too late. Satellite reconnisance were coming in, and it showed the Fusa adrift. Not a good thing. The commander of LK Nord-Norge, a General in the Air Force ordered a flight of two F-63K Tengriys to get to the area immediately to protect it.

The Tengriys were stationed at an airforce base in Murmansk, relatively close to the area. Still, even at max speed which was well above Mach 2, it would take them at least half an hour. The loadout for each fighter was as follows:

AIM-9X Sidewinder: 4
AIM-120D AMRAAM: 6
AIM-204B Dødsengel: 4
2,271kg Fuel Droptank: 2

They were equipped for air to air, but they did have an opportunity to attack ships with their 30mm cannons. Thanks to the optical camoflage and LADAR-defense, the Soviet Bloc-built fighters would remain undetected from the Russians.

Both fighters taxied to the end of the runway and got immediate permission to take off. Almost instantly, they went to full military power and took off from the 2,400 meter runway. After climbing to 50,000 feet, they cranked on the afterburners and went to max sustainable speed. While they cruised to the area, a P-7A LRAACA equipped with AGM-84L Harpoons and Mk-50 torpedoes taxied to the end of the same runway and prepared to take off too. It would take two hours to reach the area.

While the planes travelled to the area to protect the Fusa from what they thought was a Russian hijack-attempt, the Navy mobilized. A squadron of seven Indefatigable destroyers and four Mjelde class frigates under the command of a Rear Admiral aboard a Tiger class battlecruiser headed out for the Fusa. Their orders were to protect the Fusa and to render any assistance required.

OOC: OK, total forces sent.

Ships
Tiger class BCN: 1
Indefatigable class DDGN: 7
Mjelde class FF: 4

Aircraft
F-63K Tengriy: 2
P-7A LRAACA: 1
Pushka
02-02-2006, 20:38
OOC: Aight guys, i don't think your satelties would be able to pick up a SHORT RANGE radio transmission, also presence of Cottish vessel in international waters will not bother me, build up of TOA forces in the international waters along my border will borther me.

Also no way whose F-63Ks are getting undetected, they not stealth aircraft neither do they have a favorable IR signature due to the huge ass powerplants SB always uses. Either way, those birdies are getting noticed.
Pushka
02-02-2006, 20:44
Official Communique to Norwegin government

Earlier today we have received a distress call from a Norwegian Devlin class vessel, designated 'Fusa'. We have requested permission to assist and were given such, the status of the 'Fusa' was specfied as engine trouble, Russian naval rescue operations command has dispatched a rescue/recovery vessel "Krugin I". It shall be in the area of the incident within 40 minutes. At which point we will be able to provide transmission service for 'Fusa's' radio equipment, we will allow you to contact them directly immediately.

http://www.warfare.ru/image.aspx?img=0702ey70/update/jan2005/6/pioner_mokvi.jpg

Krugin I
Cotland
02-02-2006, 22:57
OOC: On the contrary. The Tengriy is undetectable. Here (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=2208)'s SBs specs on it.

Official response

The Kingdom understands and appreciate the rescue effort, but demand that no Russian personell board the Fusa. Once Norwegian aircraft arrive in the area, we will attempt communications with the Fusa ourselves and be informed of the situation. Be advised that a naval squadron has been dispatched from Murmansk and will arrive within 24 hours to assist the Fusa. Norwegian aircraft will arrive in the area soon to ensure the safety of the Fusa.

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The two F-63Ks had climbed to 65,000 feet and engaged the supercruise, moving quickly towards the last known position of the Fusa. The two planes were in a loose formation, keeping fifty meters from each other while moving through the skies in Mach 2.6. They were under radio silence, not that they used it too much anyway. Using the heavily encrypted datalink system, they shared all information necessary. The surface scan radar system could scan in great detail and specify threats more than 430 kilometers away, and the aerial scan had a range of more than 560 kilometers away. This in addition to the loadout ensured that the planes could hold their own against any aerial threats, and with the optical camoflage and LADAR-defenses, no one would know them coming. Especially not the Russians. They were one hour out.
Layarteb
02-02-2006, 23:31
OOC: Sure they could, if they were already looking. I told you I am always spying on you. SIGINT is usually how I do it.

The Hunter SSN closed in on the area and slowed down to 10 knots so that it would be able to rise to periscope depth and collect electronic data. It would eventually have to slow down to a meager 8 knots to deploy its sensor mast but that wouldn't be for another hour. The ship was at 500 feet, in water deep enough that 10 knots wouldn't be heard by a submarine within 5,000 yards. With its passive and high-frequency sonars active, the Hunter SSN prepared to enter a hostile warzone.
Pushka
02-02-2006, 23:40
OOC: yes i have read those specs, i have also debated them on NSDraftroom, so did mac and other "experts", either way, SB admitted that his plane is not stealth, its stealthy, but then again it all depends on the radar strength and the width of the radar wave, plus i always have my handy anti-stealth system. You can not claim something to be just stealth, thats simply impossible, yes those aircraft are getting detected. Infact they are lacking in stealth, look this is what he said in the actual write up:

Of course, in all actuality, it isn't that stealthy, but far more so than any Dat' Pizdy design before it.

Also if he has the camouflage system that pretty much makes his whole stealthiness go away. Look if he has plastic panels on top of his RAM paint then the radar will have no problem reflecting from those plastic panels and the RAM paint will not do anything to stop it. Same with his anti-LADAR system.

IC:

Shrapkov: Yes tovarish President, the Norwegian government does not want our help. I see...i will order that message to be sent.

-Message to Norwegian Vessel 'Fusa'-

Your government has requested us to not go through with the rescue operations. Rescue teams from your nation will arrive in the area shortly. We advice you to attempt to avoid entering Russian Federation waters until then. If you enter Russian Federation waters you will be sunject to inspection and a forced hauling outside of the Russian Federation waters.

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Krugin I, changed its course and proceeded back to the port.

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The R/C-R was closely monitering the situation, all the ships and planes were being watched, as well as several submarines. The two fighters that entered the area gave the high command something to worry about but until they did something they wouldn't be touched. Several secret T-0 bombers stationed in the waters near the Severnaya Zemlya were loaded with ammunition including guided missiles and 5 thousand precision dropped bombs and ready to take off and destroy the registered potential enemy force in seconds.
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 00:20
The Hunter SSN slowly but surely moved into position, well underneath its tactical silent speed. It slowed down to 4 knots, went up to 68 feet, and deployed its sensor mast. From this one mast it had an array of sensors including: visual (i.e. periscope), electromagnetic (ESM), an LPI radar, and a SIGINT reciever. Just twenty-four seconds of this would allow them to gather massive amounts of data, which would be analyzed back onboard as the submarine descended down to 150 feet and maintained 4 knots.
Pushka
03-02-2006, 00:23
OOC: Your SIGINT is something like my VRPB right? And where exactly are you, are you in my territorial waters?
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 00:48
OOC: Your SIGINT is something like my VRPB right? And where exactly are you, are you in my territorial waters?

OOC: SIGINT is signals intelligence and it encompasses a lot of things. I am about 6 - 12 nautical miles away from the ship, which wouldn't be your waters.
Pushka
03-02-2006, 02:12
OOC: SIGINT is signals intelligence and it encompasses a lot of things. I am about 6 - 12 nautical miles away from the ship, which wouldn't be your waters.

OOC: So basically like VRPB, gotcha.
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 02:39
The two-ship flight of F-36A Thorn, long-range, high-altitude, high-speed interceptors was nearing the Barents Sea. They were flying at 82,000 feet, crusing at just over Mach 2.0. Armed with 8 AIM-204A Escape, 4 AIM-120D-2 AMRAAM, 4 AIM-179C BVRAAM, and 8 AIM-202A Dodsengel missiles, the interceptors kept their multimode advanced radars on search mode. They were picking up Norwegian aircraft, particularly a P-7 LRAACA and a flight of Tengriys. The Russians had no aircraft in the air so the skies were relatively quiet. The F-36 had no air to ground capability and wouldn't be able to take out any ground targets but should anything take off and threaten the Norwegian or Layartebian aircraft, the Thorns would handle them quickly and effectively.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/LDC/f36.jpg
Hirgizstan
03-02-2006, 15:50
The two Seawolf Class and two Vengeance Class subs patrolled quietly in a semi-circular motion around the Fusa ship. The COH group had communicated to the Devlin Class 'Fusa' that they would move into a holding formation and mount patrols until, or if, they were needed.
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 16:13
The two Seawolf Class and two Vengeance Class subs patrolled quietly in a semi-circular motion around the Fusa ship. There was a Layartebian sub in the area and the COH group had communicated to them their plans to simply patrol around the Devlin Class 'Fusa' until, or if, the Norwegians needed any more help.

OOC: The sub that's there "isn't there."
Cotland
03-02-2006, 17:09
The Fusa was still adrift, and the last communique from the Russians left little reason for them not to be worried. The Russians had abandoned them! Everyone had abandoned them! That was when the radio started emitting sounds again.

"KNM Fusa, KNM Fusa, this is Black Raven One, a flight of two F-63 Tengriys from the Royal Norwegian Air Force. We are inbound to provide cover and communications relay. Please confirm, over."

The people in the Fusas radio room looked at eachother for a moment before the cheering started. The authorities knew that they were in trouble! Within a few seconds, the captain of the Fusa were in the radio coom and on the mic.

"Black Raven One, KNM Fusa. Thank God you're here! We're in a lot of trouble. The engines are dead, leaving us with emergency power. We have no weapons, no long-range communications, no propulsion, no heating, no nothing. We're dead in the water, so I hope you've got some friendly ships there, because I'm not about to hand over my ship to a bunch of Russians! Over."

"Copy. Stand by while I relay your message. Switch to secure communications."

The radio was silent for a moment before the lead Tengriy came back on. In the meanwhile, the radio operator on the Fusa changed to a secure frequency.

"OK Fusa, here's the deal. Orders from LK Nord. You are to do anything in your power to get back to Norwegian waters. A task force has been sent, but their ETA is still 12 hours away. You are under no circumstances to allow any Russian citizen aboard your vessel. If they attempt, you are ordered to use lethal force. If you drift into Russian waters, you are to issue a mayday, delete any intel and scuttle your ship. Under no circumstances will you allow your ship or intel to fall into enemy hands. Confirm please. Over."

The Fusa was silent for a few seconds before the Captain answered. He was a bit subdued, but as with anyone in the Royal Norwegian Military, he would obey his orders. If not, in this case, he would be guilty of treason and hung when he was arrested. Finally, the answer came.

"Copy that. Tell the task force to hurry up, because we can't get this thing started. Believe me, we've tried. Corrupted fuel."

"Wilco. Hang in there. We're going to stay for as long as we can. At least untill a P-7 can arrive."

The radio chatter ended shortly thereafter while the Tengriys maintained their circle of the area, keeping watch over the area, ensuring that no one would enter the so-called comfort zone of 20 nautical miles. Well within range of Sidewinders. The P-7A would arrive in 75 minutes.
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 17:25
The Empire had a small presence, only two fighters and a single, solitary submarine. The submarine was not known but the fighters would be detectable on an anti-stealth radar, such as the phased array systems of the Russian Federation. That was the intention. The Thorns were capable of defeating any bomber or fighter from long-range, should it be necessary. That was their design purpose and their purpose here was to show that this situation will not be allowed to turn into an instant brawl whereby Russian bombers come screaming over the poles to fire upon the Empire.
Pushka
03-02-2006, 17:36
OOC: Those T-0 Bombers are a secret, covert project you don't know anything about, also do you really think that two jet fighters will be able to do anything if i do choose to launch a full force attack? I'll use my own Arhangel fighters, and they are amongst the best if not THE best on NS. Just thought i'd point that out.
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 17:39
OOC: Those T-0 Bombers are a secret, covert project you don't know anything about, also do you really think that two jet fighters will be able to do anything if i do choose to launch a full force attack? I'll use my own Arhangel fighters, and they are amongst the best if not THE best on NS. Just thought i'd point that out.

OOC: What's the stats on the Archangel because I doubt it is better than SB's fighters or some of the other ungodly creations that exist. Two fighters can launch a lot of missiles, which will alert the rest of my Air Force.
Pushka
03-02-2006, 17:44
OOC: I get you the stats later today, i gtg now. You can look for them, search for Mish-11PVVS.
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 17:46
OOC: I get you the stats later today, i gtg now. You can look for them, search for Mish-11PVVS.

OOC: Found the T-0 and the Mish-11. They're nice but I wouldn't call them the best on NS. That would probably go to the more advanced designers like DPUO, Sarzonia, SB, and that whole group.
Hirgizstan
03-02-2006, 19:35
OOC: I have a sizeable Air Force in Russia, including AL-52 Dragon's and other such fighters, including some of the 'ungodly' creations by SB. So, Lay isn't exactly alone in the area.
Pushka
03-02-2006, 20:43
OOC: Found the T-0 and the Mish-11. They're nice but I wouldn't call them the best on NS. That would probably go to the more advanced designers like DPUO, Sarzonia, SB, and that whole group.

OOC: Well T-0 is average although rather unique, but Mish-11 is the best, its a joint project between me and Space Union. Either way, all it lacks compared to SB's design is the uber sexy marketing lingo we all love, and its capabilities (the maneuvarability of the missiles for example, the ability to fire a missile on those who are behind you, and stealth) do surpass SB's design in some instances.
Pushka
03-02-2006, 20:47
OOC: I have a sizeable Air Force in Russia, including AL-52 Dragon's and other such fighters, including some of the 'ungodly' creations by SB. So, Lay isn't exactly alone in the area.

OOC: I can put a couple of S-400 missiles into those planes without them being able to blink an eye, i also have a sizeble air force in the immediate area and if i do choose to attack Lay i will probably attack your airfields at the same time, just be realistic those two jet fighters are no invasion force, neither are they much of a threat if i chose to attack you, same goes for all your ships, i have an Armada close by that will have those things on the buttom of the ocean without a doubt. Kind of makes me wonder, what is the point of you guys providing forces? If i choose to take that vessel i will take it no matter your presence, and there is no point in having them there so i wouldn't attack because i don't want to go to war directly with Lay or Hirgy, if i attack Cot's ship there will be war with the rest of you guys either way.
Cotland
03-02-2006, 20:49
OOC: Very interesting discussion, but can we please keep the OOC chatter to a bare minimum and focus on the RP? Thanks guys.
Pushka
03-02-2006, 20:55
OOC: Yeah sorry, i really have nothing to do in this RP anymore unless that ship does drift inside my territorial waters.
Cotland
03-02-2006, 21:39
Nine hours later
The situation was quickly deteriorating. The P-7A LRAACA was on station and had been for the past seven and a half hours, keeping watch, but things weren't going well. For starters, the plane was running low on fuel, forcing it to return home soon. Secondly, the Fusa was now only three nautical miles away from Russian territorial waters. Something had to be done.

In Oslo, the military council was in an emergency session. They could not allow the intelligence of the Fusa to fall into Russian hands, as it would show just exactly how sensitive the information on the Fusa was. The crew of 149 were also an issue, but a plan was being drawn up. Sonar bouys had shown Seawolfs in the immediate area, later identified as Hirgizstanian subs. Therefore, a message was sent to the Hirgizstanians and Layartebians, who had also been shown to be in the area.

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TOA-Encrypted Request
"We have a destroyer three nautical miles from Russian territorial waters. Crew complement of 149. We have detected Hirgizstanian submarines in the area, and would like to request that they pick up as many of the crew as possible. The destroyer in question is equipped with highly sensitive equipment, and we cannot allow that to fall into Russian hands. We are therefore prepared to sink our destroyer to prevent it from falling into enemy hands. All we need is a confirmation that you will do your utmost to pick up the survivors and hold onto them untill a Norwegian squadron arrives in the area in five hours."

- signed -
Kingdom of Norway
Layarteb
03-02-2006, 22:02
Encrypted Message to Norway

The Empire shall divert an Amphibious Assault Group to the position of the ship. They will be able to rescue sailors via helicopter. You can expect them there within 4 hours. We already have had them on the way, to protect against Russian involvement.
Hirgizstan
03-02-2006, 22:41
IC:

Encrypted Message to Norway

Our submarines can hold, at a push, an extra 35 men in each SSN and 40 in each SSBN. We can also help to remove some of the more sensitive equipment and transport it away as quickly as possible. Our subs will surface and begin taking on the Norwegian Sailors once the 'Fusa' gives the signal. Aircraft are also on standby in Russia.

Hirgizstanian Navy


OOC:Oh yeah, Pushka, they're called AMD systems, thats Anti-Missile Defenses to you. I have Space bases, Theatre High Altitude, Medium Altitude, and Low Altitude defenses, both stationary and moving, as well as my AL-52 Dragon's. You couldn't get a JDAM in there without me knowing, and probably shooting it down.
Pushka
04-02-2006, 00:03
OOC: BS doesn't fly with me, if i wanted those planes down i'd have them down, you can know all you want don't see how that would help you much. And you can't have system that covers the whole globe, thats just BS GMing. Either way, i also got anti-satelite weapons, so what is your point?
Hirgizstan
04-02-2006, 00:06
OOC: You see there are such things as Anti-Missile-Missile Systems, and I have them. Heck, they pioneered them here in Belfast in a factory belonging to Shorts. If I wanted thoe missiles shot down, they would be, and then I'd throw thousands back at you. I'm also not British by the way, I haven't got British Citizenship, I have Irish Citizenship, that makes me Irish. I am also not BSing, one of your missiles could easily destroy one of my planes, and likewise, but that missile has to get there first. I'm simply saying it might not.
Pushka
04-02-2006, 00:14
OOC: You see there are such things as Anti-Missile-Missile Systems, and I have them. Heck, they pioneered them here in Belfast in a factory belonging to Shorts. If I wanted thoe missiles shot down, they would be, and then I'd throw thousands back at you.

OOC: I know what an AAM means, but there is no 100% guarantee, neither is there any hope for you to shoot them down since the range is so small it will take less then a minute for my missiles to shoot down was planes. And i also have AAMs, both satelite and surface to air missiles, S-400 can shoot a missile moving at 4.8 km/s down from 3500 km away. That doesn't mean it will do it every fucking time, and in this case you won't be able to do it, since there is simply no time for your missiles to get there, the S-400s are located on the Severnaya Zemlya, that puts them much closer to Lay's aircraft then your missiles there ever they might be, also there are evasion equipment that is installed on all my missiles which are basically the most maneuvarable ones on NS (not difficult, i use 3D VT doubled up with my own baby, a pressurized air release system for sharp turns), so yes i can evade your AAMs, and yes i can shoot those planes down, and yes you can retaliate but i also have AAMs and i will also retaliate. You got to think realistically, if you look at things objectively it is not that difficult.
Hirgizstan
04-02-2006, 00:21
OOC: I was looking at things objectively, I never said none of the missiles would hit, if you fire 2, the fact is one will definetly make it through, and for the other there is about a 50:50 chance. I think you misunderstood me at first, possibly the langauge barrier, I don't know. But there really wasn't the need to fly off the handle, I don't think any of my systems are invincible, that is purely stupid. The Airborne Laser on Board the AL-52 Dragon was designed to shoot down large missiles, and it can shoot down AA missiles, but only if there is one or two of them, if there are many it has no real chance, unless its jamming array can do something, and that would not be guaranteed at all on a modern battlefield. I never said anything about 100% guarantees. I also will ask you not to swear so much as I don't want the mods to ruin this thread. Now, we cool?
Pushka
04-02-2006, 00:21
OOC: And another thing look at there your land in Russia is and there Severnaya Zemlya is, whatever missile you mind send will fly over my territory, and i will have plenty of opportunities to shoot it down. As for your planes, in order to get to Severnaya Zemlya they will have to make an arch, flying through NG and Hawdawg, thats atleast a 4-6 hour trip, probably more and you will have to refuel atleast once.
Pushka
04-02-2006, 00:24
OOC: I was looking at things objectively, I never said none of the missiles would hit, if you fire 2, the fact is one will definetly make it through, and for the other there is about a 50:50 chance. I think you misunderstood me at first, possibly the langauge barrier, I don't know. But there really wasn't the need to fly off the handle, I don't think any of my systems are invincible, that is purely stupid. The Airborne Laser on Board the AL-52 Dragon was designed to shoot down large missiles, and it can shoot down AA missiles, but only if there is one or two of them, if there are many it has no real chance, unless its jamming array can do something, and that would not be guaranteed at all on a modern battlefield. I never said anything about 100% guarantees. I also will ask you not to swear so much as I don't want the mods to ruin this thread. Now, we cool?

OOC: Look there your closest land is, look there Severnaya Zemlya with my S-400 units is. Think of the time difference it would take for your plane to get there, and for your missile to get there and for my missile to hit the planes that are no more then 30 nm away from Severnaya Zemlya while all your stuff is thousands of miles away. Think.

And by the way, I understood you perfectly comrade.
Hirgizstan
04-02-2006, 00:25
OOC: Yeah, I know that, but I thought you meat destroying the planes on the ground at first.
Pushka
04-02-2006, 00:28
OOC: Oh you were talking about that? I thought you were talking about Lay's planes. Why would you think that i would use Surface-to-Air missiles to destroy the planes that are on the ground?
Hirgizstan
04-02-2006, 00:30
OOC: I dunno, I just assumed thats what you were talking about. I haven't got any planes in the air at the moment you see, so i thought you were talking about getting them on the ground, which would be harder. I didn't realise thew missile you said was Ground to Air. Guess this was a misunderstanding then.
Pushka
04-02-2006, 00:30
OOC: Alrighty then, lets move on.
Hirgizstan
04-02-2006, 00:31
OOC: Indeed. Cotland is away to bed, so don't expect a post from him until tomorrow.
Cotland
05-02-2006, 01:27
The Fusa was about to slip into Russian waters, with only 400 meters to go, and the crew was abandoning her after recieving the orders from Oslo via the P-7A. Each crewmember was dressed in bright orange survival-suits, necessary for survival in the Barents Sea, and were moving into the rescue rafts which had been deployed along the side of the ship. All electronic equipment had been blasted with the small-arms from the Fusas armory, and then hand grenades had been used in the OPS room and the various other critical areas. As a result, black smoke was now starting to fill the interior of the Fusa. Not that it mattered though, as most of the crew had abandoned her and started to paddle their rafts away from the Fusa. The rafts were tied together so that they wouldn't be seperated in the mighty swells of the Barents Sea.

The last person to abandon the Fusa was her captain. He had on his person the encrypted harddrives with the intelligence they had gathered, well hidden inside his survival suit. The whole abandonment of the Fusa had gone very smoothly, with everyone exercising professionality and calmness above and beyond any call of duty. After a last look at his ship, the Captain jumped into the raft and gave the order to join the group of rafts, now 160 meters away. After securing them together with rope, they would hope for a quick rescue from the ships they knew the fleet had sent to help them.

Above them, the P-7A was dropping flares into the water to ensure their comrades in arms down on the sea that they still were there. It was the dawn of a new morning, and the weather was improving. Vital to their survival. On the P-7, the radio sparkled to life.

"Penguin Eight, this is Penguin Base. Do you copy, over?"

"Base, eight. We hear you five by five, over."

"Eight, execute option Charlie. Confirm."

"Confirming orders to execute option Charlie. Engaging now. Over."

The orders left little room for doubt. The P-7A was ordered to come damned close to violating Russian airspace, and to do something which could be percieved as an act of war. Still, those were the orders. The security of the Realm superceeded the potential Russian desires to obtain Norwegian highly classified secrets.

To the people in the rafts it seemed that the P-7 was going crazy. The Fusa was now 1,600 meters away, still clear in sight in the sun and only a hundred meters from Russian territorial waters. Black smoke was starting to seep out now, proof of the violent fire raging inside, destroying anything and everything. The relatively large aircraft went to just a hundred feet over the sea and sweeped over the shipwrecked crew very quickly. Under the wings, the shipwrecks could see three AGM-84L Harpoons be dropped and the solid-fuel engines ignite a few meters over the swells and streak right into their ship! Three of them were fired, three of them hit the Fusa amidships. The warheads penetrated the armor and detonated, wrecking the once so proud warship.

As the first missile slammed into her, she groaned. As the second penetrated, she cried. As the third missile penetrated and entered her inner bowels, she broke her back. The ship rolled over on its starboard side and lay there for a moment before she slipped silently below the waves. A gracious ending for a gracious ship, and only a few meters from Russian territorial waters. The Fusa, or what remained of her would eventually find its final resting-place 70 meters inside Russian territorial waters, 300 meters down.

Meanwhile, the P-7A returned to protecting the shipwrecks, who could only wait till they were picked up. That could happen sooner than they thought though.
Hirgizstan
05-02-2006, 15:40
Some miles away from the burning and groaning Fusa four huge Hirgizstanian Nuclear Subs burst up from the almost black looking depths of the Barents, crashing down onto the water, throwing up gigantic waves of spray and foam.

The Subs began to slowly inch toward the shipwrecked Norwegian Sailors. The gigantic SSBN's made the shipwrecks look like ants. Hirgizstanian sailors stood on the long decks of the four Submarines, stacks of blankets, huge flasks of coffee, soup and stacks of bread lined the decks.

The Hirgizstanian sailors, wearing bright orange life preservers, tossed ropes out to the Norwegian sailors and they pulled their dinghy's in to the hulls of the subs. The Hirgizstanian sailors clambered down and helped the Norwegians onto the decks, throwing blankets around them and shoving giant mugs of coffee or soup, and bread into their freezing hands. Some of the Norwegians talked to the Hirgizstanian sailors, laughing and joking, eating and drinking what they'd been given, talking in broken English, laughing at the misinterpretations. Other sailors simply stared out to where their ship had gone down.

On one of the Vengeance Class SSBN's the Norwegian Captain, he was ushered inside the sub very quickly, he had secretive documents and equipment in his survival suit.
Cotland
05-02-2006, 15:58
The Captain entered the submarine quickly and insistedt to talk to the Hirgizstanian Captain. When he was allowed to do so, he immediately started talking.

"Captain, first of all, thank you for rescuing myself and my men. You probably saved out lives. Thank you. I'm going to have to ask you for a favor. Two actually. One, that you bring my crew inside and we submerge immediately. Who knows what the Russians might do? Second, I need to be allowed to contact my government, to inform them of the situation."
Hirgizstan
05-02-2006, 16:44
The Hirgizstanian Captain nodded silently, thinking for a second.

"Indeed, we'll bring your men in immediately. We'll dive and strike out for safe waters. If you'll come with me I can show you were to send a message to your Government."

The Captain ushered a sailor over and told him to begin getting the Norwegians below decks, and to be ready to dive A-SAP. Once done the Hirgizstanian Captain led the boatless Norwegian Captain out of the Command room and into the Communications room, he instructed the two sailors to assisst the Norwegian in sending a message, and then he left to supervise his sailors in getting the rest of the shepwrecks squared away.
Pushka
05-02-2006, 16:56
Two Lu-25 jet fighters and an SR-71RM recoinessance jet were quickly approaching the location of the shipwreck. Making a lot of thunderous noise they flew over the site. The SR-71 started taking pictures of the Hirgizstanny submarine. The Russian High Command knew that this was a spying mission, but they decided to let this one go for now. However should they have changed their mind, the Lu-25s were armed with Hammerhead torpedoes that would have no trouble sinking the submarine and the recoinessance data collected by 'Fusa' with it.

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Two Seydlitz class Cruisers and a Paramount class Air Defense Vessel as well as an underwater recovery vessel were sent to secure the wreckage that was now inside Russian Federation territory and to make sure that nobody crosses the border and if they do they "won't live to tell the tale" as they say.
Layarteb
05-02-2006, 23:43
The F-36s stayed in tight formation, observing the Russian jets, on a frenzy to gather intel. The F-36s used their MMAR LPI radar to track all of them with TWS mode. The LPI radar was powerful and stealthy, a serious advancement over the original LPI radar, which was the AN/APG-77. The good part of an LPI radar was that it gave no RWR warning when it locked onto a target, which was what made the F-22 so deadly in its day, combined with its stealth systems. The MMAR advanced that even more. As the F-36s continued their mission they waited for orders. If they were to get an order to shoot, they were going to pipe their AIM-202s and AIM-120s into the Russian aircraft and turn them into cinders.
Pushka
06-02-2006, 00:48
Layatrebian aircraft showed up on the VRPB screens of both L-25s simultanously.

"Baza, Baza, this is Yastreb 1, possible enemy aircraft registered in the area, request back up."

"We read you Yastreb 1, we're sending an air defense ship in to cover you just in case."

"Thank you Baza"
Cotland
06-02-2006, 00:55
The Norwegian squadron slowed down now, having been informed that the need for speed had ended. The Fusa had been sunk, her equipment destroyed beyond any and all repair. What they didn't know was that timed charges in her ammunition storages and fuel supplies were set to detonate twelve hours after the sinking, completely ravaging her already destroyed hull. It was a security precaution, intended to keep the Russians from attempting to steal any secrets she might still contain, not that there were any left.

The squadron was instructed to meet the four Hirgizstanian submarines in international waters between Franz Josef Land and Novaya Zemlya to transfer the Norwegian shipwrecks to the Norwegian ships. It slowed and proceeded the last few nautical miles to it in a leisurly 18 knots. ETA was in an hour.
Cotland
06-02-2006, 18:51
PRESS RELEASE
Ministry of Defense
The Kingdom of Norway

Yesterday evening at 2050 Greenwich Main Time, the Royal Norwegian Naval Vessel KNM 'Fusa' (D125), a destroyer of the Devlin Flight I class lost propulsion and main power following engine failure. The 'Fusa' was slated for decommission in two weeks and was on a final standard patrol in the Barents Sea, roughly 77 nautical miles from Russian territorial waters when the incident occured. As a result of the engine failure, the 'Fusa' came adrift with a heading which brought her on a direct path towards Russian territorial waters.

Despite numerous repair efforts, the damages were too substantial for repairs, and after drifting for the better part of 11 hours and being on the verge of entering Russian territorial waters, the 'Fusa' was abandoned. While still in international waters, the 'Fusa' was sunk by Norwegian naval aviation craft rather than to be handed over to the Russian Federation in order to ensure the protection of Norwegian national security. The 'Fusa' went down at 0730 GMT at a position 30 nautical miles from Severnaya Zemlya, a Russian posession. The evacuation went smoothly, and the crew were later rescued by Hirgizstanian and Layartebian naval units responding to the distress call. There are no casualties reported. The crew is expected to arrive in Murmansk in 2 days.

The reason for the engine failure is as of yet unknown, pending debriefing of the crew.