NationStates Jolt Archive


Iberian War

Haneastic
31-01-2006, 01:40
The Spanish government issued a declaration of war against Portugal today for its refusal to apologize for the slaughter of Spanish troops and for its warmongering attitude and warned Britain not to get involved in a regional conflict. just after war was declared spnaish troops began taking action against Portugal
Troops available on the Portugese front: 200,000
Pyrennes line: 100,000
Reserves: 20,000

War Orders
A force of 40,000 left from Alcantara, aiming for Castelo Branco
A force of 30,000 advanced from Vigo toward Valenca
A force of 30,000 advanced from Puebla toward Braganca

The remaining 100,000 troops stayed in defensive positions along the line, while the Spanish fleet departed Barcelona toward the Strait of Gibraltar, and the call up was instated to bring as many more soldiers to the front

Hope this is right, sorry for the mistake last time
Raven corps
31-01-2006, 01:43
OOC: not much detail in your posts, aside from your undetailed troop counts...
Haneastic
31-01-2006, 01:47
yea, but i figure that if i get too imaginative, it might seem a too little unrealistic, as it did last time. i figure that it's fairer this way, as both of us can work out how much land was taken
Koryan
31-01-2006, 04:34
OOC: Most of this is just to get an idea of the locations of my armies and ships. To save you some reading, Spain kicked @$$ and captured Bragança with minimum resistance. I didn't roleplay any of the battles since I'm not sure on your tactics, etc. A counter-attack has been launched against Salamanca by a division of the Portuguese Expeditionary Corps from Mogadouro and Almeida.

Heavy fighting erupted across the Portuguese-Spanish border. For the first time since Napolean and Spain allied, Portugal was under invasion. The Portuguese Defense Corps were rallied from across the republic. Both the Portuguese Expeditionary and Independent Artillery Divisions were summoned to help drive back the invaders and launch a counter-attack. 1,800 troops arrived in Castelo de Branco by rail as rumors of fighting outside Zebreira spread. Valença, being far from the border, was relatively safe and recieved little attention, although a river gunboat did set sail for the city. A small defensive force of just under 1,000 men was rallied at Valadares due to it's lack of railroad access. However, for the city of Bragança, nothing could be done. A relatively straight road through a forest was all that opposed the Spanish forces. Despite civil resistance, no army could reach the city in time to save it. Instead, 2,300 Portuguese soldiers along with two patrols camped in the forest outside the city, waiting for reinforcements to arrive.

The counter-attack had no intention of gaining territory, but of crippling the Spanish war machine until the army could be rallied to meet the Spanish armies. The 3 Portuguese Patrol Ships, tirelessly moving up and down the west Iberian coast for nearly 3 days now, were startled into wakefulness as the ghost of the Spanish Armada arose from the Gibaltrar Strait. 2 cruisers and a destroyer left the port of Vila Real de Santa António to delay the fleet as long as possible. Meanwhile, an additional destroyer and 2 cruisers along with a half dozen tropedo boats left from Lisbon, where the majority of the fleet had been docked in case of an attack upon the capital. On land, the Portuguese Expeditionary Corps would recieve it's first test. Only 40,000 soldiers (about 3/4 of a single division) were ready for battle so they'd have to do. 35,000 of them would leave from Mogadouro as soon as possible while the other 5,000 would try to gather troops from nearby towns and leave from Almeida. The two would meet up in the small town of Puerto Seguro then advance together towards Salamanca. Their instructions were simple:
"If you see an armed spaniard, shoot him. If you see a factory, burn it. If you see a portuguese civilian, give him a gun and tell him to follow you. And for god's sake, don't screw this up."
Koryan
31-01-2006, 04:37
OOC: Btw, you can put more detail into your posts, just remember your army isn't invincible. And if you can't find maps from the early 1900's, just try using MapQuest or modern maps. Portugal hasn't really change too much in the past 100 years.
Haneastic
31-01-2006, 23:36
I'm using a 1996 World Factbook, the only problem is that there's not a lot of detail, but my map shows Valenca being right next to the border, on the Northern border near Vigo on the Spanish side

The Spanish forces in Braganca left, following the road toward Macedo de Cavalieros but almost immediatly ran into the 2,300 Portugese soldiers in the woods near the city, and the orderly advance soon turned into a confused pitched battle. The forces aiming for Castelo Brance also kept advancing, but they moved much slower and faced increasingly harder defenses. Finally, having advanced not nearly as far as they would have liked, the Commander ordered the soldiers to dig in for the evening, staighten out the lines, and wait for reinforcements. As many Spanish soldiers and volunteers that could be gathered (10,000, of that only half were regulars) and began to dig defenses and attempt to hold the Portugese invasion back

A secondary invasion of the Canary Islands, comprising of 1 destroyer, 6 transports/armed merchant marines (weapons are a few 5-inch pieces, little armor), and 4 corvettes carrying 800 askaris and 200 Spanish soldiers from the Rio de Oro in Africa (the fleet is all second rate equipment)

The remaining spanish fleet attacked the Portugese stalling force with as much gusto as possible

On the home front, the conscription continued, with thousands of young men reporting to recruitment stations for training
Koryan
01-02-2006, 00:21
The new day brought a much better organized Portuguese Army, if that scrambled resistance the day before could be called an army. Now that the soldiers had been gathered, fed, and armed, reinforcements were sent out by the thousands. The majority of the reinforcements, approximately 2,500-3,000 strong, were dispatched to the main fronts in the north, while the secondary Expeditionary Corps, now fully manned, left for Salamanca. The unorganized mass meant to launch a counter-attack had struggled simply to unite, both armies missing Puerto Seguro and encountering heavy Spanish resistance along the border. The first group of 7,000, being mostly armed civilians and new recruits, was cut to pieces by enemy fire as they stumbled upon the city Ciudad Rodrigo. Those that escaped the slaughter were forced to camp in the farmlands around the city, lost and exhausted. The second group of 40,000, being actual trained soldiers, fared much better and ended up camping in the village of Retorillo, not sure what happened to their reinforcements and whether to advance without them.

General Fernandes, believing the brunt of the attack was coming from the north and horrified at what Parliament would do when they learned the city of Bragança had been lost with little resistance, sent 3,000 of the Defense Corps to aid forces outside the lost city. 2,000 men were dispatched to the cities of Braga, Mogadouro, Pinhel, Covilha, Castelo Branco, and Portalegre each. In Vagos, 1,100 soldiers were loaded into 20 fishing vessels "borrowed" from local fishermen. Disguised as fishermen with five 20mm cannons hidden below deck, the small fishing fleet left port and headed northeast to the city of Santander. Surely the Spanish wouldn't turn away innocent fishermen trying to escape the horrors of naval battles? ;)

As for the sea, the Portuguese, masters of the sea for the past 400 years (plus twice as many war ships as the Spanish), waged a serious offensive against the Spanish fleet, determined that the Atlantic remain under British and Portuguese control. Now almost the entire Portuguese Navy had been mobilized, with a patrol ship, 4 cruisers, 2 destroyers, and 6 torpedo boats already at battle near the strait. A torpedo boat had already been lost and one destroyer had taken 3 direct shots already and probably couldn't stand too much more. 4 Gunboats and 2 Sloops had left Porto and were on their way to the battle, yet it would be hours before they would arrive. A cruiser and a destroyer left port from Angolia to aid Portugal as soon as they heard the news of war.
Haneastic
01-02-2006, 01:07
As more reserves moved to the front, the Spanish were able to bring nearly 13,000 troops to Retorillo although casualties from raids and desertions brought the force back to 10,000 men. the forces from Braganca kept advancing under heavy fire, taking a total of 3,500 casualties in total so far, but managing to push the Portugese back, if only slightly gains were made.
The forces aiming for Castelo Branco also made modest gains, and straightened out their lines to allow for supplies to flow more easily.
The forces aiming for Valenca managed to wrest the town from Porugal, with nearly 1,000 casualties taken, and managed to push toward Viana do castelo, but were stopped cold by a strong defensive positions. the forces in that area began shifting their forces around to bring more offensive to bear against the defensive positions.
Meanwhile, the forces against the Canary Island arived, and the shore batteries managed to sink an armed transport and 3 corvettes before they were knocked out, and then the invasion forces landed. the fighting was close and fierce, but the Spanish managed to put most of their soldiers ashore and stopped a counter-attack. the remaining Portugese soldiers were soon trapped on the island, and the main Spanish fleet remained ready for a battle
Koryan
01-02-2006, 03:32
The river patrol boat opened fire on the approaching Spanish Army. Valença may have fallen but the fully-armed patrol ship wouldn't go down from small arms fire. Portuguese causulties were uncountable, estimates placed over 10,000 dead or missing and estimated another 4,000 losses by the end of the day. The Portuguese Army may have been caught off-guard and disorganized but not anymore. Today they had recovered their footing and were preparing a fierce defensive line, determined not to allow another Spanish victory. On top of that, Portugal had now gained a strong advantage - one of Spain's major ports. Spanish forces had been so focused on the invasion and defense of the border that they had forgotten the resourcefulness of Portugal's new general. 1,400 Portuguese soldiers poured out of the fishing vessels as they docked in the defenseless city of Santander. The boats opened fire upon the harbor and soldiers set fire to the docks. Local police forces clashed against the fully trained army igniting a series of street-fights and shoot-outs, Portuguese soldiers advancing block-by-block. Without any garrison and the Spanish navy hundreds of miles away, the city stood no chance. Santander was transformed into a fortress. The fishing ships were unloaded of their cannons, which were spread out across the city incase of a Spanish counter-attack. The city would not fall back into Spanish hands.

Back in Portugal, the last counter-attack of the day was underway. The Independent Artillery Division rained fire and bombs onto the city of Salamanca, destroying industries and homes alike. Portuguese soldiers dug fox-holes around the city and opened fire on any Spanish soldiers who were too stubborn to leave after the artillery fire began. From the safety of their fox-holes, the Portuguese suffered the least causulties out of all of the counter-attacks. Meanwhile, the first division sent to Salamanca, had finally united and had decided to return to Mogadouro, running low on ammunition and supplies.

Castelo Branco had become a blood-bath. The two largest armies from both sides, 32,000 exhausted Spanish firing from the woods and 11,000 freshly gathered Portuguese shooting from the safety of the city walls. This battle seemed to be the focus of the war, as 4,600 additional men from the Defense Corps (if you're wondering where all these soldiers are coming from, there are 110,000 soldiers in the Expeditionary Corps and 40,000 soldiers in the Defense Corps plus a few thousand from the Africa Corps not counting all the untapped manpower). Two rail guns rolled into Castelo Branco to help drive back Spanish forces incase they tried a suicide charge. 9,000 from the Defense Corps were dispatched to the area outside Viana do Castelo where the garrison from Valença, forced from the city by the overwhelming Spanish forces, had turned to fight. If Valença wasn't recaptured before the general's report to parliament tommorrow, the Portuguese soldiers knew they would be in serious trouble with their superiors. Now the soldiers had to choose a life of shame or an honorable death.

The Portuguese Fleet was now almost at full strength, with over 25 fully-armed war ships battling it out against the out-dated Spanish fleet of less than 20 even at full strength. Admiral Timoteo sent a simple message to Lisbon - Don't bother with reinforcements. If the Spanish are smart, they'll leave like they should have done when they saw us. Besides, we can't let the British Navy have the fun of crushing them again!

Hearing the news of the massacre at the Canary Islands, the Portuguese Parliament sent a message to the Spanish Monarch:
How could you justify such a slaughter? The Canary Government was
controlled by Spain. Those weren't Portuguese soldiers you were killing, but
the Canary Defense Force. The backlash by the public, especially the
islanders, will be twice the threat of the Portuguese Armies.
Haneastic
02-02-2006, 00:34
15,000 spanish soldiers were immediatlet released upon hearing of the invasion of Santander. arriving seperatley, the were ground up until a large enough amount of survivors were gathered to take the main line. the fighting then descended to dozens of small firefights, but the numerical superiority of the spanish managed to push the portugese back. when the smoke cleared, most of the city was leveled and 3,500 spaniards were dead.
the forces around Valenca dug in further, and several batteries of artillery were released from Vigo to strengthen the position, as 3,000 soldiers also entered Vigo to make sure another fiasco was averted. 5,000 soldiers from Valenca pushed forward but ran into the portugese 9,000 and retreated after taking nearly 3,500 casualties
Castelo Branco was proving a tough nut. the spanish forces pushed forward again, taking heavy casualties from dug in Portugese soldiers, but succeded in advancing a few more miles. another push like that and Castelo would be under Spanish guns, but the Spaniards were tiring. to shore up their lines, 5,000 more men from the ever shrinking reserve pool to that area.
Around Salamanca, the battle was getting fiercer. the nearly 12,00o soldiers and militia in and around the city answered back with artillery of their own, but they were outnumbered. in an effort to cut their lines, 10,000 spanish troops moved toward Mogadouro, but ran into the Portugese soldiers on the area. the bloodly battle continued for 6 hours, with both sides firing nearly point blank at each other

In an effort to tip the scales back in Spanish favor, nearly 50,000 men were pulled from the Pyrennes line and new recruits and departed toward the Portugese front.

To make things easier, i think we should both post casualties after each post, reserves/conscripts available, and total men uncommited
Casualties: 23,000
Reserves: 5,000+50,000 entering soon
Uncommited so far: 65,000
Koryan
02-02-2006, 01:10
In response to the increasing number of Spanish soldiers in Portugal, Parliament has extended the draft to ages 18 through 28. All men within this age group are to report to training camps immediately.

The draft would provide plenty of reinforcements for the Portuguese Army but until their training was finished, the job fell to the 170,000 already on the battlefield. Division A of the Portuguese Expeditionary Corps (they one that retreated) was now re-supplied and and reinforced to almost full strength at 50,000, left for Salmanca to aid their brother division. Division B and part of the Independent Artillery were quickly surrounding Salmanca. 240mm artillery cannons unloaded their firepower randomly into the city, reducing any buildings near the edge of town to ruins. The soldiers, growing restless of shooting from the safety of their fox-holes, began small charges into the city in between artillery shellings. They split up and hid in everything from houses to trees, snipering Spanish soldiers as they ran down the streets to the battlefront. One such group used the confusion of war and back-streets to reach city square, which they set ablaze. They torched houses and offices alike, opening fire on soldiers and civilians alike. At this rate, Salmanca wouldn't survive long enough for reinforcements from either side to arrive.

Castelo Branco - the bloodiest battle of the war so far. 6,000 Portuguese reinforcements had brought the city garrison to 24,000 plus plenty of soldiers fighting the 38,000 Spanish outside. Although outnumbered, they had a better defensive position, fresh supplies, and hadn't been fighting for 3 days straight like their Spanish opponents. General Fernandes sent the following message to the commander the forces attacking Castelo Branco:
For the sake of your men and their families, stop your death march. It's been 3 days and none of your men have had a chance to rest. Go home to your families and enjoy your life. Don't let your imperialistic government cloud your judgement.

The Portuguese Navy had prevailed at sea and the Gibaltrar Strait was their's, although at the cost of many ships and many lives. They headed home to Lisbon for some rest before another day of fighting tommorrow. However, one merchant ship carrying diplomats headed to the ruined Canary Islands. The Spanish slaughter the day before had turned the islanders against Spain. It was time for their independence. Spain would no longer have control over the people of the Canary Islands.

Soldiers Fighting: 170,000+
Soldiers Garrisoned in Cities: 14,000
Soldiers Training: 30,000+
Estimated Causulties: 20,000 to 25,000
Population Enlisted (including Causulties): 3.8%
Haneastic
02-02-2006, 02:08
Home Front: a general call-up was issued, conscripting as many as 1,000,000 men between 18 and 30 for training. despite the impressive number, only 800,000 were declared fit or needed for duty (farm work and such), and the training centers were swamped, so only 100,000 soldiers were able to begin training, although other men who had handled weapons before were able to take over town watch and militia jobs, freeing up 40,000 soldiers for the front.

Castelo Branco: the Spanish troops, exhausted after 3 days of fighting, finally dug in and brought long range siege guns and heavy artillery to pound the Portugese positions, and replaced nearly 10,000 soldiers with fresh reserves from the Pyrennes

Salamanca: a secondary force of 40,000 men, from the Pyrennes and from the reserve pool launched a massive attack on the Portueges lines around Salamanca, aided by 8,000 men launching an attack from inside the city. a third force of 25,000 men moved to sever the Portugese supply lines and stop the attack on Salmanca. however, most of the city was in ruins and the soldiers inside were barely holding on, although the counter-offensive was releasing pressure on the city, if only slightly.

Valenca: another Spanish offensive was launched. leaving 5,000 men in the city, the remaining 22,000 men attacked the 9,000 portugese and pushed them back until the buildings of Viana de Castelo could be seen in the backround, but night and stiffening Portugese defenses stopped them, but artillery brought up pounded the city, as a revenge for Salmanca. the forces in Braganca, forgotten and rested launched an assault toward Macedo de Cavalieros, leaving 5,000 men in Braganca.

Engaged Soldiers:275,000
Casualties: 35,000
Reserves: 30,000
Training: 100,000
Koryan
02-02-2006, 03:05
Official Diplomatic Message to Madrid
The peninsula's natural resources cannot support such a massive war. If this continues much longer, neither of our countries will survive. And if you attack our populous as you did at Viana de Castelo, we shall show no mercy upon your people.

The Battle of Castelo de Branco raged on. A Portuguese train brought in 8,000 Portuguese reinforcements plus 500 workers to help repair the city's defenses and fix any damaged artillery. More guns, ammunition, and food were also brought in on the train. Gradually one side would have to run out of supplies, and it wouldn't be the Portuguese. The two rail guns brought in the day before changed their focus to the enemy artillery. When it came to artillery, the Independent Artillery Corps would not be out-done.

The Spanish Forces had made a bad choice leaving Bragança, as the Portuguese Army in Mogadouro charged upon the city with guns blazing. The gunboat blasting away at Spanish soldiers in Valença continued as it's sister ship joined it in battle. The garrison from Braga joined the 9,000 Portuguese outside Viana de Castelo as they dug in for a fierce defensive. A destroyer from the Portuguese Navy sailed up to the coast and opened fire upon the Spanish soldiers, it's massive guns taking out multiple men per shot. 5,000 Portuguese from the Defense Corps were dispatched to Barcelos.

With the arrival of the Division A, adding 50,000 reinforcements to the Portuguese forces, the Salmanca was doomed. Severely outnumbered and facing severe artillery bombardment thanks to the 240mm cannons, the Spanish forces finally issued a retreat, being mowed down by artillery fire and the charge of the battle-hungry reinforcements. After chasing the Spanish across the countryside, the exhausted Portuguese finally stopped in the village of Cardenosa to get re-organized and wait for Division B to arrive from Salmanca. A messanger was sent by horseback back to Lisbon to report their victory.



A little more detailed report:
50,000 soldiers in Cardenosa.
45,000 soldiers and a large artillery force in Salmanca.
32,000 soldiers and a large artillery force in Castelo de Branco.
5,000 soldiers attacking Bragança.
11,000 soldiers and a destroyer defending Viana de Castelo.
5,000 soldiers garrisoned in Barcelos.
5,000 soldiers garrisoned in Caia.
1,000 soldiers garrisoned in Vagos.
2,000 soldiers garrisoned in Braga.
2,000 soldiers garrisoned in Pinhel.
2,000 soldiers garrisoned in Covilha.
2,000 soldiers garrisoned in Portalegre.
27,000 soldiers ready for battle in Lisbon.
Most of the Portuguese Navy is in Lisbon.
30,000 soldiers training across Portugal.
26,000 losses so far.
Haneastic
02-02-2006, 03:34
Castelo Branco: nearly 20,000 reserves were sent to the salient, as well as more supplies to last the Spanish troops for quite a while, and the artillery stepped up their bombardment against the Portugese lines.

Braganca: the Spanish troops fell back from the offensive to assist the 5,000 spanish troops already there. and artillery from Puebla was brought up to supporty the defense

Salmanca: a combined force of 80,000 men, remnents from the city, locals, and mostly soldiers from the relief force fought all day to encircle the Portugese forces, taking nearly 15,000 casualties but succeding in surrounding the Portugese soldiers around Salmanca

Valenca and nearby area: Spanish troops brought up siege guns to handle the destroyer. the 22,000 men also pushed into Viana and managed to wrest it from Portugese hands, although taking 6,000 casualties, and the Portugese were able to withdraw just outside the city.

Message to the Portugese Government: the attack on Viana de Castelo was merely a retaliatory move because of the destruction of Salmanca. If the Portugese government wishes to end this war, the Spanish government will gladly offer them reasonable terms

Active troops: 154,000
Troops at Valenca: 5,000
Viana de Castelo: 16,000
Braganca: 26,000
Castelo Branco: 42,000
Salmanca: 65,000
Casualties: 56,000
Reserves: 120,000
Seville: 20,000
Vigo: 15,000
Badajoz: 15,000
On the Line: 70,000
Training: 100,00
Koryan
02-02-2006, 04:37
Official Statement to Madrid
I don't think you are in the position to offer the terms. Your navy is destroyed, over 50,000 causulties, and don't forget that I've been nice and have kept my allies, Britain and France, and my rich colonies out of this. Here are the terms of the cease-fire:
-3 Year Peace Treaty between Portugal and Spain.
-Portugal shall pay $10,000,000 in damages to Spain
-Spain is required to pay nothing to Portugal.
-All hostilities and embargoes between Spain and Portugal shall be cancelled.
-Official apology will be announced for the Portuguese attack on Santander
-Official apology will be announced for the Spanish attack on Viana de Castelo.
-Portuguese soldiers will withdraw from Spanish territory.
-Spanish soldiers will withdraw from Portuguese territory.
-All territory east of the 6.5 West Parallel shall be controlled by Spain, all territory west shall be controlled by Portugal (not including colonies, islands, etc.)
-Portugal shall pay an additional $5,000,000 to Spain for damages to it's navy.

Considering that my allies are powerful, my colonies could put out 500,000 soldiers each plus more than enough wealth, your fleet is destroyed, and 50,000 fresh Portuguese soldiers are sitting just miles from Madrid, I think you should seriously consider the cease-fire. Besides, you'll be walking away with a full wallet to rebuild your navy, pay off your soldiers, and go help your ally, Germany, who's surrounded on all sides. And remember, this isn't my combat post so if you decline my extremely attractive offer, my soldiers can burn down your defenselss capital.

This is a diplomatic post, not my military action. All you can do is post a diplomatic reply (meaning no sending defenses to Madrid or sending your army to burn down my counter). If you decline, I still get to make my military action.
Koryan
02-02-2006, 04:42
OOC: Btw, if you're wondering about where my 50,000 soldiers to destroy your capitol are, that little town of Cardenosa my soldiers are resting up in is just a few miles away from Madrid city-limits. Slipped that one by you, didn't I? :D
Haneastic
02-02-2006, 23:20
Message to Portugal: this proposal is outrageous. yes we have taken casualties, but so have you and we can easily afford them more than you can. your "allies" are caught up in the War with Germany, and have done nothing yet to help you

um... where is Cardenosa? cause Madrid seems pretty far away from everything else and as far i as knew, your forces were still at Salmanca, and the trip from there to Madrid is like 100+ miles. maybe it's just my supid map that doesn't show it, but i thought that the battle was still around Salmanca, and your division doesn't seem able to march that far that quickly through enemy territory. maybe i'm being a little unfair, it just seems they went a little too fast and encountered little to no resistance
Koryan
03-02-2006, 01:44
First of all, here's a map (http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=1.d6e.JPG)

With the arrival of the Division A, adding 50,000 reinforcements to the Portuguese forces, the Salmanca was doomed. Severely outnumbered and facing severe artillery bombardment thanks to the 240mm cannons, the Spanish forces finally issued a retreat, being mowed down by artillery fire and the charge of the battle-hungry reinforcements. After chasing the Spanish across the countryside, the exhausted Portuguese finally stopped in the village of Cardenosa to get re-organized and wait for Division B to arrive from Salmanca.

Division B were the 65,000 fighting in Salmanca. Division A waited a few towns away and then attacked and chased away the defeated Spanish until they (the Portuguese) were exhausted and took up refuge in Cardenosa for the night. You sent your forces to attack Division B in Salmanca but complete ignored Division A.
Haneastic
03-02-2006, 02:09
ok, i think i get what you are saying. the problem is my map and the map you showed both don't show cardenosa on it and i thought that was near Salmanca where they could help out on the attack. but i believe that i did have 40,000 Spanish troops assisting in the relief attack and there's really no way that the Portugese could drive them back that far so quickly
Koryan
03-02-2006, 02:27
Cardenosa is the red star on the map. It isn't labelled because it's a small town.

48,000 Spanish soldiers running straight at the Portuguese Lines
vs
105,000 Portuguese with Defensive Formations and Earthworks
Independent Artillery Corps including 240mm cannons

Sorry, but no sane Spanish soldier would have stayed there once the artillery started levelling the city and soldiers started setting the town on fire. If they would even SURVIVE that for a whole day, I think another Portuguese Army added to the attacking force would be more than enough. And as for distance, the average American (meaning they're probably out of shape and fat) can walk 20 miles in a day. Fully trained, rested soldiers running could have probably made it to Madrid.
Haneastic
03-02-2006, 02:33
okay, i suppose, the way you made it sound as if both units were attacking as one. but i guess if this doesn't seem odd or whatever, just carry on with your attacks
Koryan
03-02-2006, 03:32
Official Statement to Spain
The terms of the treaty gave you plenty of cash and would save your capital and people. If you are willing to have your people slaughtered just for a little land, you are not fit to rule any nation.

Division B, rested over the night, recieved the order. 50,000 Portuguese marched into the city, killing any armed citizens, police, and royal guards. Every building was set ablaze, trees cut down and used for firewood. Civilians were taken out of the city, any that resisted were shot. Soldiers surrounded the capital building and gave the Spanish leader one last chance to accept the cease-fire and end this massacre.

In Salmanca, Division A was surrounded on all sides by Spanish soldiers. They were taking heavy causulties and artillery ammunition was starting to run low. 5,000 new recruits were sent to Mogadouro. 10,000 additional soldiers from Lisbon were dispatched to join the defenses of Caia with new recruits taking their place.

The Defense Corps in Castelo de Branco increased their ferocity. Many workers had been killed by the artillery shellings and causulties were increasing. The Rail Guns continued their destruction of the Spanish artillery as the newly re-supplied infantry continued their rain of fire.

The forces defending Viana de Castelo had been forced from the city and retreated to nearby Darque for a better defensive position. The destroyer, heavily damaged from artillery fire, limped back to Porto. 5,000 new recruits were moved to Braga and Portalegre each. The force attacking Bragança, having taken 2,000 more causulties, retreated to Samil.

OOC: Where's are all these siege weapons and artillery coming from? It says nothing about them in your army report.

OOC: How are you sending all these reinforcements and supplies to your forces attacking Castelo Branco? It's 40 miles from the nearest Spanish town! You're talking about a day's journey per shipment!

50,000 soldiers garrisoned in Madrid.
39,500 soldiers and a large artillery force in Salmanca.
30,000 soldiers and a large artillery force in Castelo de Branco.
15,000 soldiers garrisoned in Caia.
9,000 soldiers garrisoned in Darque.
7,000 soldiers garrisoned in Portalegre.
7,000 soldiers garrisoned in Braga.
5,000 soldiers garrisoned in Mogadouro.
5,000 soldiers garrisoned in Barcelos.
3,000 soldiers garrisoned in Samil.
2,000 soldiers garrisoned in Pinhel.
2,000 soldiers garrisoned in Covilha.
1,000 soldiers garrisoned in Vagos.
20,000 soldiers ready for battle in Lisbon.
Most of the Portuguese Navy is in Lisbon.
15,000 soldiers training across Portugal.
36,000 losses so far.
Haneastic
03-02-2006, 03:53
sorry if it seems a little odd, i assumed they were going by rail and roads, i'll move them more slowly in occupied territory, but Spain still has a mostly active rail lines if it seems like the movement is going too fast, just tell me. as for the artillery, it's attached to the units itself, and its mainly 75 and 150 mm guns, the big artillery is the coastal guns

Madrid: the Spanish leader refused to surrender, and minutes later shot himself as Portugese soldiers stormed the Palace. meeting in a a building in the middle of nowhere, a group of Spanish military officers, financial leaders, and several church leaders pronounced themselves leaders when contact was lost with Madrid. the issude the following report to General Montoya:you are hearby ordered to destroy the portugese invaders. they have almost 100,000 soldiers in our country destroy them!General Montoya immediatley ordered 70,000 men to Madrid. the advance force of 60,000 set up in a wide perimeter around Madrid, giving weapons to every eligible person they saw to bolster their defenses, and dug in the entire day, with the other 10,000 men arriving tommorrow.

Castelo Branco: the Spanish troops dug deeper and continued pounding Portugese lines and Castelo Branco itself. Castelo Branco was nothing more than a shattered shell of itself. However the Spaniard didn't move any farther, contenting themselves to pound away.

Salmanca: the Spaniards continued to blast the Portugese soldiers, and kept creeping forward, taking advance positions and little by little squeezing the Portugese. the Spanish commander in the area sent a communique to the Portugese general trapped in Salmanca: your situation is hopeless. for the sake of god, surrener and end this boloodshed.

Every where else in Portugal, Spanish troops seem content to sit back and dig in.

Around Madrid: 60,000
moving to Madrid: 10,000
Salmanca: 63,000
Valenca: 5,000
Braganca:26,000
Seville: 15,000
Vigo: 15,000
Badajoz: 15,000
Casualties: 58,000
Reserves(not garrisoned in cities, in staging areas, rest centers, etc.): 25,000
Training: 100,000
Haneastic
04-02-2006, 03:43
nice move attacking Madrid, i did not see that coming
Koryan
04-02-2006, 05:08
OOC: At this rate, both our countries will be levelled before the main war even breaks out. I've lost 3 major cities, you've lost 3 major cities including your capital and your dictator, which means your country is leaderless and there wouldn't be anyone to be giving all these orders. If you are considering any peaceful ending to this, I'd recommend doing it before I launch this massive invasion. And as for your army size comment, you've forgotten that Portugal owns two of the largest colonies in Africa.

Orders to Angola and Mozambique
The Portuguese-African Defense Corps shall be transported directly to Portugal, accompanied by 300,000 Mozambican recruits and 250,000 Angolan recruits. The transports shall be escorted by 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, and 4 gunboats. Do to the violent lives of the colonial people, I believe minimal training will be needed. Any extra guns, ammunition, and supplies that can be gathered from the colonies will be appreciated. The weapons factories in Lisbon should be able to provide all required weapons. Angola will be able to provide all needed food and supplies and, due to Portugal's extensive trading and naval abilities, transportation shouldn't be an issue. Forces shall land in seperate targets across Spain and are ordered to destroy anything in their path. Good luck and may god be with you.

The surrounded forces in Madrid simply dug in and set up any defensive works possible, from dirt walls to rubble fortifications. Reinforcements would arrive soon. All they needed to do was sit back and shoot anyone foolish enough to run towards the ruined city.

By now, Castelo Branco was a lost cause. It's walls and buildings were crumbling, it's fields destroyed, it's supplies exhausted. Artillery and gun fire temporarily ceased so Portuguese and Spanish messengers could meet and disuss allowing civilians to be transported to safety. The Portuguese captain spoke to the civilians before he sent the first messenger:
If those damn Spanish are so inhuman that they won't allow women and children to escape the horrors of war, then every Portuguese in the city shall take up arms. If they want to act like monsters, we'll gut them like monsters!

The Portuguese forces in Salmanca ceased fire and waved the white flag. A messenger were dispatched to the Spanish captain to discuss the terms of surrender. 10,000 new recruits were moved to the garrison at Caia.

50,000 soldiers garrisoned in Madrid.
35,000 soldiers and a large artillery force in Salmanca.
28,000 soldiers and a large artillery force in Castelo de Branco.
25,000 soldiers garrisoned in Caia.
9,000 soldiers garrisoned in Darque.
7,000 soldiers garrisoned in Portalegre.
7,000 soldiers garrisoned in Braga.
5,000 soldiers garrisoned in Mogadouro.
5,000 soldiers garrisoned in Barcelos.
3,000 soldiers garrisoned in Samil.
2,000 soldiers garrisoned in Pinhel.
2,000 soldiers garrisoned in Covilha.
1,000 soldiers garrisoned in Vagos.
20,000 soldiers ready for battle in Lisbon.
Most of the Portuguese Navy is in Lisbon.
2 Destroyers, 2 Cruisers and 4 Gunboats escorting African forces to Spain.
600,000 African/Portuguese Colonial soldiers en route to invade Spain.
5,000 soldiers training across Portugal.
43,000 losses so far.

OOC: You should seriously consider a cease-fire before I have to slaughter your country. If I get permission from Britain (Private British Companies employ most of the workforce, need a lot of men for the mines/farms, and unofficially control the nation), I could probably raise 200,000 more men from Mozambique (the population is over 11 million).
Haneastic
04-02-2006, 05:23
All right this is just getting ridiculous. terms

return to prewar borders
10 year peace treaty
official Spanish apology for Castelo Branco
Spanish compensation of 10,000,000 dollars fro destruction
Portugese compensation of 5,000,000 for damages
Withdrawl of all troops from foreign borders

hopefully this is acceptable
Koryan
04-02-2006, 05:47
return to prewar borders
10 year peace treaty
official Spanish apology for Castelo Branco
Spanish compensation of 10,000,000 dollars fro destruction
Portugese compensation of 5,000,000 for damages
Withdrawl of all troops from foreign borders

You're going to have to wait a while. I trying to strike a deal with Britain and even if that doesn't go through, you're still pretty screwed when my massive colonial armies arrive. The way I see it, you're going to have to give up a lot of land to Portugal or Portuguese/African/British armies will take over your entire country and you're done for. My recommendation: give up Spain peacefully in exchange for tons of money and move your base of operations to your colonies. You aren't really in the position to argue too much and I'm probably going to do the exact same thing with my colonies. If you do agree, the first thing we do is make an alliance in Africa because with all the manpower there, a war like this could go on forever. :(
Haneastic
05-02-2006, 02:46
Basic overview of my colonies in Africa

Rio Muni: 26,000 km; 150,000 people, guard of 5,000 soldiers
Rio de Oro: 184,000 km; 450,000, with a force of 25,000 soldiers
Spanish Morocco: not sure, i think population is around 150,000 with a guard force of 15,000
The colonies basically offer a position near Kamerun to invade/buy and naval bases to build off
Just in case you happened to be interested about what I have
Koryan
05-02-2006, 22:59
Conditions of Surrender:
-Spain officially surrenders to Portugal.
-Spain is required to pay nothing to Portugal.
-Portugal shall pay $10,000,000 in damages to Spain.
-Portugal shall pay $5,000,000 to Spain for damages to it's navy.
-Portugal shall pay $5,000,000 a year to Spain for 5 years.
-Portugal gives northern Angola to Spain.
-Portugal shall protect the Spanish Colonies from any attacks for 3 months.

How does this sound? ;)
Haneastic
05-02-2006, 23:02
I accept the terms. Would Portugal be willing to help transport Spanish troops to their colonies so that they could protect themselves?
Koryan
05-02-2006, 23:05
The Portuguese Navy would be more than happy to assist you. Portuguese soldiers have been ordered to halt all attacks against Spain and it's subjects. Money transfers from Lisbon and Angola should be ready in a few days. African soldiers en route to Spain have been stopped and unloaded in Angola.
Haneastic
05-02-2006, 23:08
Spanish troops are leaving Portugese territory and should be completely gone in a day at most, and the Spanish government is willing to use it's soldiers to help rebuild damaged areas of Portugal, since they damaged it
Koryan
05-02-2006, 23:11
Civilians will have the responsibility of rebuilding their own homes, although some government funding will be in place.
Haneastic
05-02-2006, 23:13
In that case Spanish troops will be withdrawn completely, and 125,000 of them will be prepared for movement to their colonies, 100,000 to Angola, 25,000 to Spanish Morocco
Borgui
05-02-2006, 23:14
Basic overview of my colonies in Africa

Rio Muni: 26,000 km; 150,000 people, guard of 5,000 soldiers
Rio de Oro: 184,000 km; 450,000, with a force of 25,000 soldiers
Spanish Morocco: not sure, i think population is around 150,000 with a guard force of 15,000
The colonies basically offer a position near Kamerun to invade/buy and naval bases to build off
Just in case you happened to be interested about what I have
What about Ifni?
Haneastic
05-02-2006, 23:21
Ifni- 1,502 km; 50,000 people