NationStates Jolt Archive

'THE KURTISH REPUBLIC's leader today announced that the nation should take a strong anti-socialist stance, and shouldn't be afraid to fight for what is right.
"Socialist nations have been doing nothing but stir up trouble in the world and I believe that it should be the goal of our great nation to put it right." the leader said.
He also commented on the fact that in many socialist nations that the the every rich person that worked hard in school and got a good job is having to fork out millions to "low-life gangsters".

Maria Everett, National News.

The government of Qarez officially condones any anti-socialist actions taken by international governments.

You best know that peoples of all wealth are very sucsessful in our nation. There is no poverty, we are not insane, we are not corrupt. This is how Socialism should be and we will not be threatned. If you want to start this again, expect missiles flying over your leaders palace.
~Joseph Ulof. Minister of Dealing With Stupid or Evil Nations

(You know by threatning half of NS players you've given yourself a ticket to Nucular hell.)

'THE KURTISH REPUBLIC's leader today announced that the nation should take a strong anti-socialist stance, and shouldn't be afraid to fight for what is right.
"Socialist nations have been doing nothing but stir up trouble in the world and I believe that it should be the goal of our great nation to put it right." the leader said.
He also commented on the fact that in many socialist nations that the the every rich person that worked hard in school and got a good job is having to fork out millions to "low-life gangsters".

Maria Everett, National News.While Quaon is itself capitlist, we do not believe that socialism is horrible. It is much better than a dictatorship goverment, or worse, one run completly by corporations.

You were the nation who threatened 'Aequito', I already have 5 aircraft carriers with 10 Migs on each on standby around your waters.

"Kurtland's leader said again today that the new threat from The Marxist State is a dangerous one indeed, and that their leader is an under-educated anti-capitalist who does nothing but invade non-socialist nations. The leader also said that everything is being done to prevent an invation on Kurtish land and also the nations allies."

1% of my population is in the army with another 1% on standby. In time of total war, I can make that 5%.

So far that's 64.7 million enlisted and ready to go including an infantry of over 9 million.

Interestingly enough, we are both a dictatorship and run by corporations.

We view this as superior alternative to socialism.

Straight from the Libraries of The Outer Citadel of Dreashan:

An excerpt from theology Professor Dr. Eliad Aramahn's "A Refute of Socialism"

"Pure socialism is indeed what I think of when I elude it to Christ’s teachings. Part of me would like to accept that it is indeed possible for humanity to come under a help-and-be-helped social and interpersonal mentality. Sometimes I wish that the world wasn’t ultimately divided into rat-race capitalism and totalitarian dystopias. I’d like to wake up one day to a world that has abandoned its ideals of money mattering more than love, order mattering more than justice, status of checkbook mattering more than purity of heart, compassion trumping stoic self-preservation…Alas, I am forced to come to the consistent realization that the world is far too screwed up to sustain such a society.

Every idiot with a two-dollar prayer-book seems to know *exactly* what is the right road, and demands everyone to follow him; those that do not are doomed to destruction. Under some tenants of Christianity I have heard, it seems that if you do not accept Christ as your lord and savior, regardless of your wholesomeness, you will perish. Under tenants of Islam, infidels are sub-humans worthy of death. Judaism asserts that only their number shall be truly saved…These forces clash, splinter, and damn one another all the time. So many sects have grown so far removed from the core teachings of Abraham, Jesus and Mohammad, that they are barely recognizable through their spewing barrage of hate. They’ll kill infidels; they’ll kill each other. There’s no acceptance, tolerance, or even respect. There is no just and loving God who loves all his children in their eyes; only wrath, fire, brimstone, agony and eternal damnation. The prophets of old have lost their clarion call, replaced by the bitter spats of the Fred Phelpses and the Osama bin Ladens of the world. The people follow along like sheep, always afraid that if they do not heed these ‘warnings’, they will perish.

Meanwhile, idiotic atheists have not merely accepted the fact that there is no God, but use this belief (or lack of one) to mock and defame religions all over. It sickens me to see Jesus or Abraham, Moses or Mohammad who preached fundamentally good values, decried by these imbeciles for no damn reason. True, the sheep have left the shepherd, but out of their own free will; and when the shepherd leaves only written word as a way to cull his flock, it only takes a number of years to act as the tool to wedge the people away. But that is no reason to decry the shepherd. None.

I sometimes feel that the world is too far removed from its fundamentals; its roots, that there is nothing to do now but to try and find your own way through. Whether we like to accept this fact or not, a (moderately) lassie-faire society such as America, is the only one that can work nowadays. Pure socialism is untenable, not as long as people continue to splinter and stab one another in the back. Partial socialism, has always led to authoritarianism, either because the leaders wanted more than socialism could offer them, or because the people began desiring more than their neighbors; martial law was the only way to keep them from splintering.

It is for this reason that I think societal theories have long since died. Socialism, heralding the welfare of the society over the welfare of the individual, dies with people’s innate selfishness, and demagogues that always poke their heads up to stir the flames. Governments will become more stringent and try to keep the people under their control, (and on ‘track’ so to speak) and to do so they must establish an enlightened oligarchy to direct the people. Free speech must be outlawed in order to maintain the untenable; wars against ‘mongrels’ who do not accept this ‘enlightened’ philosophy spring up; the government begins to lie to its people; the oligarchy begins to scramble for more power-and the privileges for the responsibility…

Before you know it, the law will indeed be “Everyone is equal…but some people are more equal than others”.

Sadly, Orwell was right.

That’s why you can call me a libertarian, because I can choose to follow my own path, and discover my own way to God. I think of it as micro-socialism. I care about myself, and those closest to me. I will work to do the best I can for myself, and for them. I shall strive to become the best man that I can possibly be. I will search for God wherever I can find him: in the laughter of my friends; in the eyes of my lady; in the warmth of my family; in the cries of my children; on warm summer nights where the stars are out, the moon is bright, and I say a humble “thank you” for all that I am blessed to have.

And when the sun sets on my life, I hope that God will look at me and say “You did well my son.”, and let me into paradise."

Straight from the Libraries of The Outer Citadel of Dreashan:

An excerpt from theology Professor Dr. Eliad Aramahn's "A Refute of Socialism"

"Pure socialism is indeed what I think of when I elude it to Christ’s teachings. Part of me would like to accept that it is indeed possible for humanity to come under a help-and-be-helped social and interpersonal mentality. Sometimes I wish that the world wasn’t ultimately divided into rat-race capitalism and totalitarian dystopias. I’d like to wake up one day to a world that has abandoned its ideals of money mattering more than love, order mattering more than justice, status of checkbook mattering more than purity of heart, compassion trumping stoic self-preservation…Alas, I am forced to come to the consistent realization that the world is far too screwed up to sustain such a society.

Every idiot with a two-dollar prayer-book seems to know *exactly* what is the right road, and demands everyone to follow him; those that do not are doomed to destruction. Under some tenants of Christianity I have heard, it seems that if you do not accept Christ as your lord and savior, regardless of your wholesomeness, you will perish. Under tenants of Islam, infidels are sub-humans worthy of death. Judaism asserts that only their number shall be truly saved…These forces clash, splinter, and damn one another all the time. So many sects have grown so far removed from the core teachings of Abraham, Jesus and Mohammad, that they are barely recognizable through their spewing barrage of hate. They’ll kill infidels; they’ll kill each other. There’s no acceptance, tolerance, or even respect. There is no just and loving God who loves all his children in their eyes; only wrath, fire, brimstone, agony and eternal damnation. The prophets of old have lost their clarion call, replaced by the bitter spats of the Fred Phelpses and the Osama bin Ladens of the world. The people follow along like sheep, always afraid that if they do not heed these ‘warnings’, they will perish.

Meanwhile, idiotic atheists have not merely accepted the fact that there is no God, but use this belief (or lack of one) to mock and defame religions all over. It sickens me to see Jesus or Abraham, Moses or Mohammad who preached fundamentally good values, decried by these imbeciles for no damn reason. True, the sheep have left the shepherd, but out of their own free will; and when the shepherd leaves only written word as a way to cull his flock, it only takes a number of years to act as the tool to wedge the people away. But that is no reason to decry the shepherd. None.

I sometimes feel that the world is too far removed from its fundamentals; its roots, that there is nothing to do now but to try and find your own way through. Whether we like to accept this fact or not, a (moderately) lassie-faire society such as America, is the only one that can work nowadays. Pure socialism is untenable, not as long as people continue to splinter and stab one another in the back. Partial socialism, has always led to authoritarianism, either because the leaders wanted more than socialism could offer them, or because the people began desiring more than their neighbors; martial law was the only way to keep them from splintering.

It is for this reason that I think societal theories have long since died. Socialism, heralding the welfare of the society over the welfare of the individual, dies with people’s innate selfishness, and demagogues that always poke their heads up to stir the flames. Governments will become more stringent and try to keep the people under their control, (and on ‘track’ so to speak) and to do so they must establish an enlightened oligarchy to direct the people. Free speech must be outlawed in order to maintain the untenable; wars against ‘mongrels’ who do not accept this ‘enlightened’ philosophy spring up; the government begins to lie to its people; the oligarchy begins to scramble for more power-and the privileges for the responsibility…

Before you know it, the law will indeed be “Everyone is equal…but some people are more equal than others”.

Sadly, Orwell was right.

That’s why you can call me a libertarian, because I can choose to follow my own path, and discover my own way to God. I think of it as micro-socialism. I care about myself, and those closest to me. I will work to do the best I can for myself, and for them. I shall strive to become the best man that I can possibly be. I will search for God wherever I can find him: in the laughter of my friends; in the eyes of my lady; in the warmth of my family; in the cries of my children; on warm summer nights where the stars are out, the moon is bright, and I say a humble “thank you” for all that I am blessed to have.

And when the sun sets on my life, I hope that God will look at me and say “You did well my son.”, and let me into paradise."
OOC: Great first post!

Dear Kurtish Republic,

We hate your cappie stereotypes. I did not fight a civil war to overthrow our original fascistic government so other nations could yell at our nation, and neither did any of the war veterans in Tejas.
Any nation the Kurtish Republic takes action against can consider the People's Republic of H-Town Tejas behind them.

Mikel Aritza, PRH-TT Foreign Minister

You were the nation who threatened 'Aequito', I already have 5 aircraft carriers with 10 Migs on each on standby around your waters.

"Kurtland's leader said again today that the new threat from The Marxist State is a dangerous one indeed, and that their leader is an under-educated anti-capitalist who does nothing but invade non-socialist nations. The leader also said that everything is being done to prevent an invation on Kurtish land and also the nations allies."

1% of my population is in the army with another 1% on standby. In time of total war, I can make that 5%.

So far that's 64.7 million enlisted and ready to go including an infantry of over 9 million.
"Okay, let's see a few things...
1: The Marxist State has a much bigger army than you.
2: I can attest that the Marxist leader is an intelligent and compassionate man.
3: Comparing the UN report, your nation kills babies when it makes a profit, while they give their citzens the right to live there lives however they like."

You best know that peoples of all wealth are very sucsessful in our nation. There is no poverty, we are not insane, we are not corrupt. This is how Socialism should be and we will not be threatned. If you want to start this again, expect missiles flying over your leaders palace.
~Joseph Ulof. Minister of Dealing With Stupid or Evil Nations

(You know by threatning half of NS players you've given yourself a ticket to Nucular hell.)

I am not threatening nations. It is only a warning to show that nations who are going to force or "liberate" (USSR post-WW2) capitalist nations under the dark cloud of socialism will be threatened by our nation.

With a Basket Case economy, yes we have poverty, you don't, but the average wealth is greater than your peoples.

I am not threatening nations. It is only a warning to show that nations who are going to force or "liberate" (USSR post-WW2) capitalist nations under the dark cloud of socialism will be threatened by our nation.

With a Basket Case economy, yes we have poverty, you don't, but the average wealth is greater than your peoples.
Yes. The Marxist State has really been invading Quaon.

Soviet Russia was a communist state ruled by a dictator. That is different than socialism.

Dear Kurtish Republic,

We hate your cappie stereotypes. I did not fight a civil war to overthrow our original fascistic government so other nations could yell at our nation, and neither did any of the war veterans in Tejas.
Any nation the Kurtish Republic takes action against can consider the People's Republic of H-Town Tejas behind them.

Mikel Aritza, PRH-TT Foreign Minister

I am not starting a war. I am not going to attack someone for no reason. But when you get involved and back nations who are attacking civilise societies like mine, then YOU are the one taking action, not me.

"Okay, let's see a few things...
1: The Marxist State has a much bigger army than you.
2: I can attest that the Marxist leader is an intelligent and compassionate man.
3: Comparing the UN report, your nation kills babies when it makes a profit, while they give their citzens the right to live there lives however they like."

Well how come your nation is "liberating" near-by countries. This sounds A LOT like Stalin and Breshnev.

Well how come your nation is "liberating" near-by countries. This sounds A LOT like Stalin and Breshnev.
What the hell are you talking about? We are not attacking neighboring countries.

From: The Armed Republic of Kravania

To: Kurtish Republic

The Armed Republic of Kravania would like to express our solidarity and support for the position of the Kurtish Republic.

It's a rare thing to hear such common sense and well thought and meaningful statements made by members of the international community. The President of the Kurtish Republic is indeed a man of infinite wisdom and clear vision.

Socialism, social democracy, liberalism and other evils are nothing but puppets, controlled by the rotten hand of the vile global communist conspiracy.

Any individual who argues that all humans are 'equal' or in favour of 'human rights' is a puppet of the global communist conspiracy. Communist gangsters will make simple sounding statements to fool the simple minded and thus enslave them to the gangster communist system.

Kravania urges the Kurtish Republic to ignore the stupid and moronic 'protests' by the communist gangster nations and to carry on with the noble cause of anti-communism.

Kravania even suggests that the Kurtish Republic follow our example and start executing the sub-human communists and socialists that exist inside the borders of your nation.

Extermination is the only fate that communist gangsters and communist nations are worthy of.

May our noble cause stand firm and united in the face of our enemies.

Great Leader and President for Life

Atne Pavelic

"The Kutish leader today has announced that the nation is setting up a major perimeter operation. Anti-aircraft guns are being set up in all cities as we speak and bunkers and and barbed wire is being layed on Kurtish beaches as we speak.
"We are setting up a strong defensive perimeter that only the strongest of nations could manage to brake."
The leader also said that allies would be called for extra help."

What the hell are you talking about? We are not attacking neighboring countries.

Sorry, I was meaning the Marxist State.

The Socialist Federation of Ato-Sara is deeply saddened by the desicion of yet another people to be drawn down the path of hate against their fellow human beings, just because of their political beliefs.

We hope you can come to forgive yourselves for whatever atocities that your nation will commit in the name of Anti-socialism.

Remember that hate and possesion bring suffering, suffering is the cause of all the worlds ills.

Prime minister,
Lin Yen

From: The Armed Republic of Kravania

To: Kurtish Republic

The Armed Republic of Kravania would like to express our solidarity and support for the position of the Kurtish Republic.

It's a rare thing to hear such common sense and well thought and meaningful statements made by members of the international community. The President of the Kurtish Republic is indeed a man of infinite wisdom and clear vision.

Socialism, social democracy, liberalism and other evils are nothing but puppets, controlled by the rotten hand of the vile global communist conspiracy.

Any individual who argues that all humans are 'equal' or in favour of 'human rights' is a puppet of the global communist conspiracy. Communist gangsters will make simple sounding statements to fool the simple minded and thus enslave them to the gangster communist system.

Kravania urges the Kurtish Republic to ignore the stupid and moronic 'protests' by the communist gangster nations and to carry on with the noble cause of anti-communism.

Kravania even suggests that the Kurtish Republic follow our example and start executing the sub-human communists and socialists that exist inside the borders of your nation.

Extermination is the only fate that communist gangsters and communist nations are worthy of.

May our noble cause stand firm and united in the face of our enemies.

Great Leader and President for Life

Atne Pavelic

Thank you for your support. Would you be interested helping in the defence of the attacking communists/socialists.?

Sorry, I was meaning the Marxist State.

OCC: I run a crazy dictatorship called Krakatowa and 3 other countries that aren't on the fourms, It is impossible to keep up with sometimes
-----------
IC: In response to claims made by the The Armed Republic of Kravania. I suggest you read about our nation, or shut up.
~Josef Ulof. Minister of dealing with Stupid and Evil nations

The Socialist Federation of Ato-Sara is deeply saddened by the desicion of yet another people to be drawn down the path of hate against their fellow human beings, just because of their political beliefs.

We hope you can come to forgive yourselves for whatever atocities that your nation will commit in the name of Anti-socialism.

Remember that hate and possesion bring suffering, suffering is the cause of all the worlds ills.

Prime minister,
Lin Yen
We have no hatred, we just stand up for what we believe in. Why should the non-lazy students who get bullied for being intelligent end up getting a good job and paying the hiomeless and poor just because the government wants them too. Why should everyone be brought down to that same horrible level of mediocrity. People should be alble to strive for riches, and wealth. Tosettle in comfort and raise a family without the worry of extreme taxes and owing money to those lazy ones. Now you socialists out there tell me why this is happening. Why?

I suggest you read about our nation, or shut up.
~Josef Ulof. Minister of dealing with Stupid and Evil nations

Do not threten Kravania!

===========Official Skitsojd Response to Anti-Socialist Stance===========

Dear, The Kurtish Republic

The Socialist Republic of Skitsojd is appaled at the Anti-Socialist stance of this nation. It itself is a Socialist nation and has been so for many years. The nation has accumulated a astounding Unemployment rate of 3% and has been steadily increasing it's Controll economy skyward.

Any Military actions taken by The Kurtish Republic or any nation associated with The Kurtish Republics stance will be met with a swift and powerful retribution of power.

We have no hatred, we just stand up for what we believe in. Why should the non-lazy students who get bullied for being intelligent end up getting a good job and paying the homeless and poor just because the government wants them too. Why should everyone be brought down to that same horrible level of mediocrity. People should be alble to strive for riches, and wealth. To settle in comfort and raise a family without the worry of extreme taxes and owing money to those lazy ones. Now you socialists out there tell me why this is happening. Why?

Mediocraty? Extreme taxes?

Socialism does have not mean the state takes all, nor does it mean that everybody is forced into productivity or equalness. True socialism means everyone is given an equal chance.
Through provision of welfare people are given the chance to succede if they chose not to take that chance then they will not succede.
Can you say the same for the people who sweep the streets in your country, the people who sit at a conveiance store checkout? Were they all given a chance?

In Ato-Sara every one is given the same chance to start, mediocraty comes as a result of wasting your chance.

Prime Minister,
Lin Yen

To the Kutish Republic,

The nation of Gilabad is willing to stand by you every step of the way. I believe that communist nations who try and forcefully spread their treehugging liberal ways deserve to be attacked. My military is on high alert and awaiting orders. I am wiilling to eliminate these liberal's!

-Warlord Shawhabas

To the Kutish Republic,

The nation of Gilabad is willing to stand by you every step of the way. I believe that communist nations who try and forcefully spread their treehugging liberal ways deserve to be attacked. My military is on high alert and awaiting orders. I am wiilling to eliminate these liberal's!

-Warlord Shawhabas

Thank you.

I may have a young nation but any move against us will be met with force. Also be warned that we have been developing a new series of powerful weapons that could be brought into service against you. In the past we have been ruled by corrupt and foolish men this will never be allowed to happen again.

The High Lord Protector of Evoleerf
Xab Erretnorb

OOC: the new powerful weapons are nucular scramjet missiles (i'm playing it as we've developed the tech but we're testing and ironing out any flaws in the system)

Gilabad is readying "Task Force" 122 which consists of...

-15,000,000 regular troops
-15,000 terrorists
-2000 "Alpha Force" special forces
-25,000 M-12 "battlefortress" MBTs
-67,000 M-2 Bradleys
-100,000 Humvees w/50 cal.
-60,000 Blackhawk helicopters
-50,000 Apachie attack helicopters
-50 AC-130D gunships
-3 particle beam sattelites
-10 "Westmorland" class aircraft carriers
-12 "Texas" class battle cruisers
-600 F-14 Tomcats
-600 F-18 Hornets
-700 A6E Intruders
-500 MH-53 Pavelows
-400 A-10 "warthogs"
-150 F-22s
-150 F-35s
-300 B-2s
-3000 M1096 Paladins
-4000 SAM launchers
-2000 Patriot Missile systems

Don't believe me?....Look at my nation, or don't think I can afford it?...look at http://www.sunsetrpg.com/nsxmlparser.php and type in Gilabad!

Yet again, a nation decides to put itself on the path to war, despite the clear costs of same. Communism and socialism, as abhorrent as they seem to some nations, are not genocide. There is no moral duty to change a government for its economic system, and unless said economic system is significantly problematic for one's own nation's economy, there is no national interest at stake. One hopes that cooler heads will prevail.
Sincerely,
PM Timothy Kaine of The Beltway

From: The Armed Republic of Kravania

To: All Anti-Kurtish Nations

Let this be the last warning given to the vile sub-human communist gangster nations of Skitsojd, The Marxist State and H-Town Tejas.

Any military action taken against the Kurtish Republic, any threat to invade/bomb/impose sanctions/blockade the Kurtish Republic by your nations will result in a swift declaration of total war by Kravania upon your vile nations.

Any nation that would support or aid communist subversion and socialist terrorism within the borders of the Kurtish Republic will face a sustained bombing operation on your nation by the Kravanian Air Force.

The Kurtish Republic is only guilty of telling the truth, that socialism is evil and a miserable failure of a system. The Kurtish Republic never made any threats to attack or invade any nation, socialist or not, only to tell the international community that socialism is a vile ideology.

Yet for speaking it's mind and speaking the truth, the communist gangster nations have gone insane, a reflection prehaps of their fear that their own oppressed peoples may hear of how socialism is nothing but an ideological fraud and thus may rise up to join the ranks of free nations in solidarity, of which Kravania is a proud member.

Communist gangsters, you have this, your final warning. Failure to use whats left of your common sense and intelligence will result in Kravanian troops marching through the streets of your cities.

Great Leader and President for Life

Atne Pavelic

To Ante Pavelic, President of Kravania -
If Communism is a dead-letter, ideologically, then why do you need to invade communist nations? Surely, radio, TV, and especially the Internet can be used to spread your message of the problems inherent in Communism. There is no need to go to war against a nation for its economic system, unless it is a direct threat to your nation's economy, such as in embargos and blockades. We do not support Communism; we merely oppose unnecessary warfare. Thank you for hearing us out.
Sincerely,
PM Timothy Kaine of The Beltway

I will say this again. Before you impose your false steroytypes on our people, please read about your nation. Any letter sent from you to us will be thrown out until you do this. I just hope enough of your citizens can afford the education system so that they may carry out my very simple request.
~Joseph Ulof. Minister of Dealing With Stupid or Evil Nations

just for the record most of your oh so great military would be useless in my country (Gilabad not Kravania as I am unaware of your military capabilities) as they would be only usefull if I fought you as a conventional army.

the general plan on invasion of my country is first do as much damage as possible while you land your forces and then melt into the barren and inhospitable countryside.

then start indefinite guerilla warfare with the wardens, army and militia.

most of your forces would be rather useless.

-60,000 Blackhawk helicopters
-50,000 Apachie attack helicopters

easy to take down

-15,000,000 regular troops
-15,000 terrorists
-2000 "Alpha Force" special forces

Too few

-25,000 M-12 "battlefortress" MBTs
-67,000 M-2 Bradleys
-100,000 Humvees w/50 cal.

just pretty useless generally in this kind of warfare (yes come into the woods in your tanks do please, chase us till you run out of food do)

3 particle beam sattelites
-10 "Westmorland" class aircraft carriers
-12 "Texas" class battle cruisers

nothing worth using on

-600 F-14 Tomcats
-600 F-18 Hornets
-700 A6E Intruders
-500 MH-53 Pavelows
-400 A-10 "warthogs"
-150 F-22s
-150 F-35s
-300 B-2s

yeah um overkill springs to mind, (also very fun when man portable sams are so prevalent in my forces)

-3000 M1096 Paladins
-4000 SAM launchers
-2000 Patriot Missile systems

patriots are mainly useless (either because they have nothing to act against or there are cheaper/better systems to do them)
SAM launchers i've bugger all aircraft
are paladins some form of artillary? i'm rusty on american equipment (mainly as I don't like it (expensive and shoddy oooh!)

basicly your groundforces will be out numbered in infantry which is what matters in this instance, they will also be outclassed and in terriotory that is alien to them but well known to my forces, your aircraft and so on will have problems acting effectivly due to how my forces fight.

basicly your forces will be ambushed, raided, sniped at, booby trapped and generally frazzeled, most of your technology will be completly unjustifiably used (right so you used a million pound missile to kill 3 militia and a dog oh and to blow up some equipment they had stolen from us.....) and basicly you'll spend lots of time, effort, money, equipment and lives on something utterly useless...........

well done

The Armed Republic of Koryan, being a centrist republic, hereby vows to support any nation that is harmed simply for it's economic or political beliefs. To invade another nation simply because of it's systems (unless it's an insane dictatorship that slaughters people for fun) is simply imperialism in disguise and will surely lead to needless bloodshed. :mad:

To: Mr. Timothy Kaine, PM of The Beltway

I would like to thank you for your letters and the time you have taken to make an informed decision with regards to the communist agression that is making itself evermore present against the Kurtish Republic.

I can understand where your coming from in the point you made about us simply using methods of communication to show up the total failure and ideological bankruptcy of communist and socialist thinking.

However, many socialist and communist governments have the means, and employ such means, to prevent their people from knowing the truth and thus brainwashing them under their vile and illogical propaganda.

Also, communist nations are a total and eternal threat to all nations. Given that, can we really risk our own survival and sovereignty from communist tyranny by banking on the hypothesis that if we inform the people who live in communist nations of communism's failure, that they may rise up and destroy communism themselves?

It would be nice to say that in every instance that would be the case, but it is not.

Thus, the international community does need to group together to form a crusade to wipe out communism and all people who support it, wipe them out once and for all. As communism is the primary cause of mistrust and war between nations, a huge global war to destroy communism, a war to end all wars, would be nothing short of common sense.

The alternatives do not bare thinking about.

Yours Sincerely

Atne Pavelic

Great Leader and President for Life of Kravania

How is an economic system a threat to the stability of the world? A war against aggresors and genocidal nations would indeed be justified; one against communist states is not necessarily so. Nations have gone to war before communism, and will undoubtably continue to do so if it is eliminated. There is no reason, nor need, to go to war here.
Sincerely,
PM Timothy Kaine

We applaud any efforts to assimilate into our superior capitalist machine. The old, helpless, weak, and poor must make way for the rich and all powerful consumers. For consumption is the fulfillment of human potential on this earth.
We commend you.

Mun Yi Bags
CEO, WalCHINAmart

PS: Our power tools are %50 off. Get them before they fall apart.

To illustrate our support of your cause, we hereby pledge 200 units of our elite Corporate Raiders, tireless fighters that will assist in the global capitalist cause. Rest assured, they will accomplish the mission, as they are well-indoctrinated. They also work 60 hrs. a week for minumum wage and no benefits. They will serve you well.

Mun Yi Bags
CEO WalCHINAmart

-Lone Alliance Statement-
While we disagree with your stance against Socialism, we will leave you alone, however, we will not stand for your attempt at Imperalism by 'saving' other countries. The only reason that wars happen is usually the nation's fault and not due to types of Government, unless your a world Domination group like the WACL.

From: The Armed Republic of Kravania

To: All Nations

The Armed Republic of Kravania suggests that all nations ignore any statements made by the communist gangsters that control the nation of the Lone Alliance.

The Lone Alliance is a nation with a long history of communist barbarity, a nation that supports many terrorist organisations, a nation that has attacked and invaded many nations for no other reason than to satisfy their imperialistic power games.

Kravania, along with other nations have grown tired of the Lone Alliance's lies about the World Anti-Communist League (WACL). The WACL is a movement for freedom and progress, saving nations from the grip of global gangster communism.

Of course the Lone Alliance fears the WACL for nation's like Parthia and Roach Busters provide an example to the people of Lone Alliance of what they could have if they rid themselves of communist gangsterism.

Again, Kravania urges the international community to stand firm against the terrorism, imperialism and evil of the Lone Alliance.

For the day will soon come when the Lone Alliance will have the armies of liberation in their capital, the day when the vile members of the Lone Alliance government will have their bodies dragged on to the street and torn apart.

Great Leader and President for Life

Atne Pavelic

The Marxist State has been threatening capitalist regions for a long time now. The government cannot be trusted with it's own citizens.

This is official declaration of WAR against The Marxist State from The Kurtish Republic. Gilabad and WalCHINAmart will be official allies in the cuase.

Any attempts of other nations to assist in battle, aid or even lending or giving supplies, troops, equipment or credits will also will have there socialist/communist government overthrown.

'THE KURTISH REPUBLIC' has a Defence budget of $1,494,322,716,600.00 (one trillion, four hundred and ninety-four billion, three hundred and twenty-two billion, seven hundred and sixteen thousand, six hundred dollars only).

The nations of the WACL execute people right and left and you say they are a better government, how pathetic. A cowardly, suck up, corrupt, moronic, excuse of a nation like you does not bother us, you were made a fool of before by us when you attempted to force a war with Stoddenia using lies and plan out evil, hold your idiotic tongue, before you end up shoving your other foot inside. Any Attempt by you to try and destroy us will leave your nation in dust by the time our leaders are dead.
-Lone Alliance

To: The Kurtish Republic
We advise you to retract you declaration, your nation will be destroyed by the enemy, it will cost your nation their lives, over what? Because you disagree with a system of government? You'll find that noone will welcome your "liberation", you'll have to kill every single person in the nation to make sure everyone there will like you, it will go down as the greatest Genocide in the World, from which then, I doubt anyone will have a problem killing your government.

From: The Armed Republic of Kravania

To: All Nations

The Armed Republic of Kravania suggests that all nations ignore any statements made by the communist gangsters that control the nation of the Lone Alliance.

The Lone Alliance is a nation with a long history of communist barbarity, a nation that supports many terrorist organisations, a nation that has attacked and invaded many nations for no other reason than to satisfy their imperialistic power games.

Kravania, along with other nations have grown tired of the Lone Alliance's lies about the World Anti-Communist League (WACL). The WACL is a movement for freedom and progress, saving nations from the grip of global gangster communism.

Of course the Lone Alliance fears the WACL for nation's like Parthia and Roach Busters provide an example to the people of Lone Alliance of what they could have if they rid themselves of communist gangsterism.

Again, Kravania urges the international community to stand firm against the terrorism, imperialism and evil of the Lone Alliance.

For the day will soon come when the Lone Alliance will have the armies of liberation in their capital, the day when the vile members of the Lone Alliance government will have their bodies dragged on to the street and torn apart.

Great Leader and President for Life

Atne Pavelic

You say you are anti-communist yet your tax rate is 100%. This must be changed if you are to become an official ally in the war.

Dear Nations,

Two Hundred Years Ago, The Republic of Kanami struggled and fought in the name of certain belifes. The belife to be free, and equal under the Governemnt. Lead by 15 year old Yasashii Himura, under her "Democratic Theory." Today Kanami (who is in fact socialist) is very much a thriving
democracy. Yasashii's Democratic Theory is very much pratcitced in Parliment. All Races, Religons, and Ethnticties have equal say in their Government. Everyone 17 and up has the right to vote in free elections. Schools are intergrated, and always have been, since the nation's inception.

Kanami is very much a Poltical Activiest for Human Rights in the World as well. If all Socialism is Communism, then why did Kanami risk war with a powerfull Empire, over the matter the rights of Peaceful Islamic peoples in that nation, that we're being exiled. If All Socialism is Communism, why does Kanami take such strives in creating international, and national harmony? How is it that everyone in our nation has the right to vote. How is it we are willing to help a nation in need? How is it we have such a low crime rate, poverty rate, corruption rate, how is it everyone has the right to practice their religion, freely with out Government Interferance, if we are Communists?
Free Speach, Peaceful Assmbly, Press, all things of a Democracy.

"Unity, Justice, Freedom, Peace for All People" Our national motto of our founding mother. Who risked everything to state what she belive in. She grew up in a Communist Society, where she was threatend that if she continued to spread her words of Democracy. She belive in a society where people are equal, and Kanami has demonstrated that time and time again. Is there something wrong with granting all religons the right to worship? Or for you to belive in Scientology? Something wrong with cheap easy access to healthcare, and social security? Something wrong with being who you are, speaking your native toung, being able to have your cultural celbrations? Is their something wrong with eleminating sweat shops in the world, and slavery?

While we can't say the same for ALL SOCIALIST nations, Kanami hasn't been out to destroy Capitalism, nor has declared war on such. We don't discourage Capitalism, just uncontrolled capitalism. How can you support Big Business that denies citizens it's fundmental rights? Or uses slave labor, cuts corners? Pollutes the air, land and sea. Is that what we want? No. What we want is stable honerable business, that doesn't run peoples lives, but helps a nation grow and floruish.

We do not condone any acts of violence, blood shedding in the name of stero types, is wrong. Many of the things you have said are wrong. Stop, in the name or peace and security, and in the name of humannity.

The Republic of Kanami

Statement from the People's Republic of Prevostiana

The Kurtish Republic is a threat to the sovereignty of socialist nations. Nations which have chosen their own ideology and economic systems. If the Kurtish Republic chooses to invade countries for reasons that are not of international concern. Prevostiana, and members of the Socialist Commonwealth will take that move as a direct action against us.

If however, proof is given that the reasons for invasion are of international concern. We will not retaliate with military force. But we'd like to stress that defying a countries sovereignty because of their political ideology is a blind and arrogant move. The Prevostian government would never defy a capitalist nations sovereignty, despite the fact we think capitalism is wrong. Because we believe that right and wrong are merely points of view, and making such an decision based upon whats right and whats wrong is idiotic.

-Minister of Foreign Affairs

The protectorate of Evoleerf would like to pledge 20,000 wardens to The Marxist State along with supporting army and airforce units (as well as any neccessary naval assets).

These forces will be deployed for as long as the conflict lasts or untill such a time as my nation requires them (i.e. in the event of invasion or othersuch catrostophic event)

The wardens will serve to help your defense by providing an elite infantry element with excellent training in use of terrain (especially in defensive actions).

Yours in comradeship
The High Lord Protector Xab Erretnorb.

Official Press Release from the Armed Republic Koryan

This is our last warning. Do you not realize that millions of these socialist citizens you are trying to "save" will be slaughtered? If it is war you want, a direct action should be taken against the socialist governments, not the people or the armies they are forced to join. If the people of these target nations are harmed, Koryan forces shall intervene. As I have said before, the Republic of Koryan does not support socialism but will happily defend socialist nations from WACL imperialism.

The Marxist State has been threatening capitalist regions for a long time now. The government cannot be trusted with it's own citizens.

This is official declaration of WAR against The Marxist State from The Kurtish Republic. Gilabad and WalCHINAmart will be official allies in the cuase.

Any attempts of other nations to assist in battle, aid or even lending or giving supplies, troops, equipment or credits will also will have there socialist/communist government overthrown.

'THE KURTISH REPUBLIC' has a Defence budget of $1,494,322,716,600.00 (one trillion, four hundred and ninety-four billion, three hundred and twenty-two billion, seven hundred and sixteen thousand, six hundred dollars only).

OCC: No I haven't been threatning capitalist regions. And I want to know your source for that insane budget, because it obviously means all of your citizens are homeless, hungry, poor, in poverty, with sweatshop jobs and no education, your cities are nothing but tents, and your nation is in deep, deep debt. And I don't give a shit how big it is.

Today, after the leader declared war on The Marxist State, he told that many socialist nations have been misunderstanding the reason for the war.
"We are not attacking The Marxist State because of their socialist economy. We are doing this because of carful observation of this nation we have decided that the nation is too dangerous for the world. Some nations think we will be killing the Marxist civilians. This is not true. After liberation, their economy will be rebuilt and a capitalist democracy will be put in place. Any nations helping The Marxist State are doing so for no reason and are helping a dangerous nation just because they have the same economic principples."

See, YOU socialist nations out there are the ones fighting because of the economy.

To: The Marxist State

You have two options. A treaty, and a war-liberation.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Kurtish-Marxist Peace Agreement.

1) The Kurtish Republic and The Marxist State will not engage in warfare.

2) The Marxist State will give up all colonies and territories controlled by its empire.

3) The Marxist State will spend 33% less on defence spending and decrease it's army to 17,000,000.

4) The Marxist State may not ally with communist nations.

OCC: No I haven't been threatning capitalist regions. And I want to know your source for that insane budget, because it obviously means all of your citizens are homeless, hungry, poor, in poverty, with sweatshop jobs and no education, your cities are nothing but tents, and your nation is in deep, deep debt. And I don't give a shit how big it is.

Don't believe me? http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=the+kurtish+republic

The Beltway offers to mediate actual peace negotiations between the warring parties in our capital, Georgetown. We propose a status quo peace, and hope that it will be approved by both sides.
Sincerely,
Prime Minister Timothy Kaine, Republic of The Beltway

Today, after the leader declared war on The Marxist State, he told that many socialist nations have been misunderstanding the reason for the war.
"We are not attacking The Marxist State because of their socialist economy. We are doing this because of carful observation of this nation we have decided that the nation is too dangerous for the world. Some nations think we will be killing the Marxist civilians. This is not true. After liberation, their economy will be rebuilt and a capitalist democracy will be put in place. Any nations helping The Marxist State are doing so for no reason and are helping a dangerous nation just because they have the same economic principples."

See, YOU socialist nations out there are the ones fighting because of the economy.

To: The Marxist State

You have two options. A treaty, and a war-liberation.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Kurtish-Marxist Peace Agreement.

1) The Kurtish Republic and The Marxist State will not engage in warfare.

2) The Marxist State will give up all colonies and territories controlled by its empire.

3) The Marxist State will spend 33% less on defence spending and decrease it's army to 17,000,000.

4) The Marxist State may not ally with communist nations.
The Prime Minister of Quaon sent an angry telegram to the Kurts.

"Who gave you the right to act as a global police force? We of Quaon did not, and I doubt many of the other million nations of the world did.

You claima democracy? You are a police state! You claim fairness, I see decline! I beg all nations to compare the two nations UN report before they make such assumptions of the Marxist State! The Marxist State, unlike your own Kurtish Republic, cares about human rights.

I beg all other nations, capitlist or socialist, to stand against this act of terrorism and imperialism. This Republic is not a member of the UN, and if I am correct, any other organization. They do not have the right to police other nations.

We of the Free Empire of Quaon declare that war shall not happen if we have anything to say about it. You Kurts rape women when it makes a profit! Stand down.


PS: Judging from the size of the Marxist's State's Military, you'd lose this war anyway."

================Official Skitsojd Response to Kurt-Marx War=============
We the nation of Skitsojd are appaled that the Nation The Kurtish Republic would seek to destroy a peaceful nation. This war comes unprovoked and is a black mark to any and all Nations Supporting Kurt. We urge all nations to come to the Aid of Marx. Just take a look at both nations. A close we reveal alot about both. One is a compassionate country that is Socialist or Communist, while the other is Tyrant that Rules with an iron fist in a Police State.

In response to the war, the Skitsojdian military is on High Alert. Any major action taking place between the two nations will force our hand. If our hand is forced we will support Marx unless it was Marx who made the attack.

================End of Official Skitsojd Response======================

Today, after the leader declared war on The Marxist State, he told that many socialist nations have been misunderstanding the reason for the war.
"We are not attacking The Marxist State because of their socialist economy. We are doing this because of carful observation of this nation we have decided that the nation is too dangerous for the world. Some nations think we will be killing the Marxist civilians. This is not true. After liberation, their economy will be rebuilt and a capitalist democracy will be put in place. Any nations helping The Marxist State are doing so for no reason and are helping a dangerous nation just because they have the same economic principples."

See, YOU socialist nations out there are the ones fighting because of the economy.

To: The Marxist State

You have two options. A treaty, and a war-liberation.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Kurtish-Marxist Peace Agreement.

1) The Kurtish Republic and The Marxist State will not engage in warfare.

2) The Marxist State will give up all colonies and territories controlled by its empire.

3) The Marxist State will spend 33% less on defence spending and decrease it's army to 17,000,000.

4) The Marxist State may not ally with communist nations.



You will cease and stop this now. Zackaroth is not found of socialist nations but we see nothing wrong with the country your declaring war on. You stop all agressive advances or face a pure hell from the zackarothian military.


The High-Leader of Zackaroth

Aimless von strangaild.

Whereas, the Kurtish Republic and the Republic of Kravania have rejected legitimate attempts at diplomatic solutions to their conflict with the Marxist State,

Whereas, the Kurtish Republic and the Republic of Kravania are clearly waging an aggresive war against the Marxist State, attempting to justify it by vaguely claiming that the Marxist State is a "threat" to global peace and stability,

Whereas, the sole act of diplomacy taken by either of the two states was an unreasonably restrictive and insulting offer of peace,

and Whereas, peace, rather than war, is in the best interests of The Beltway, and the world,

Therefore, the government of the Republic of The Beltway hereby condemns the Kurtish Republic and the Republic of Kravania, and recalls our diplomatic staffs from those nations.

Signed,
Prime Minister Timothy Kaine, Republic of The Beltway

The Kurtish-Marxist Peace Agreement.

1) The Kurtish Republic and The Marxist State will not engage in warfare.

2) The Marxist State will give up all colonies and territories controlled by its empire.

3) The Marxist State will spend 33% less on defence spending and decrease it's army to 17,000,000.

4) The Marxist State may not ally with communist nations


We find the treaty to the Marxist State very unfair, one sided, biased, and infringing. While The REP of Kanami is not an ally to the The MS, nor fully endorses it, we feel as one socialist nation to another that these unreasonable prejudices against Socialist States such as the Marxists.

Even though war has been delcared against the Marxist State, at this point no side has lost in combat. The Treaty drafted represents the intrests soley to the Kurtis Rep. And not of the Marxist State, and is drafted in style of a "win-lose post combat" Jurisdiction.

Wherease The Republic of Kanami finds the KREP Gov. Thriving on violence, hypocracy, and unproven, unjust claims

Whereas A Decleration and Action of War will lead to the death of thousands of casulaties of Civilan Stature (regardless of target engagments)

Therefore Recommends a Non-Agression Pact to be drafted by a third party as a nutural compromise between the nations.

Agreeing With the Esteemed Beltway PM

Declaring International Disputes, and alleged claims of criminal actions of the Marxist State should be taken up in the International Court, and not by war.

Signed

30, Janurary 2005

Steven J. Koolridge-Kanami Prime Minister

James E. Scott-Minister of Foreign Affairs

Berry K. Herrington-Minister of Defense

Emmy A. Willent-Attorney General

Hitoshi L. Shoran-VP

just for the record most of your oh so great military would be useless in my country (Gilabad not Kravania as I am unaware of your military capabilities) as they would be only usefull if I fought you as a conventional army.

the general plan on invasion of my country is first do as much damage as possible while you land your forces and then melt into the barren and inhospitable countryside.

then start indefinite guerilla warfare with the wardens, army and militia.

most of your forces would be rather useless.

-60,000 Blackhawk helicopters
-50,000 Apachie attack helicopters

easy to take down

-15,000,000 regular troops
-15,000 terrorists
-2000 "Alpha Force" special forces

Too few

-25,000 M-12 "battlefortress" MBTs
-67,000 M-2 Bradleys
-100,000 Humvees w/50 cal.

just pretty useless generally in this kind of warfare (yes come into the woods in your tanks do please, chase us till you run out of food do)

3 particle beam sattelites
-10 "Westmorland" class aircraft carriers
-12 "Texas" class battle cruisers

nothing worth using on

-600 F-14 Tomcats
-600 F-18 Hornets
-700 A6E Intruders
-500 MH-53 Pavelows
-400 A-10 "warthogs"
-150 F-22s
-150 F-35s
-300 B-2s

yeah um overkill springs to mind, (also very fun when man portable sams are so prevalent in my forces)

-3000 M1096 Paladins
-4000 SAM launchers
-2000 Patriot Missile systems

patriots are mainly useless (either because they have nothing to act against or there are cheaper/better systems to do them)
SAM launchers i've bugger all aircraft
are paladins some form of artillary? i'm rusty on american equipment (mainly as I don't like it (expensive and shoddy oooh!)

basicly your groundforces will be out numbered in infantry which is what matters in this instance, they will also be outclassed and in terriotory that is alien to them but well known to my forces, your aircraft and so on will have problems acting effectivly due to how my forces fight.

basicly your forces will be ambushed, raided, sniped at, booby trapped and generally frazzeled, most of your technology will be completly unjustifiably used (right so you used a million pound missile to kill 3 militia and a dog oh and to blow up some equipment they had stolen from us.....) and basicly you'll spend lots of time, effort, money, equipment and lives on something utterly useless...........

well done

I do not plan to fight a conventional war if we do engage your country in conflict. Just so you know this is only about half of my military, I can reinforce it. If I do invade and your liberal population decides to give me any trouble, they will be percieved as the enemy and all of them will be slaughtered! I highly doubt your inadaquet military with shoulder fired anti-aircraft weapons can "easily" shoot down aircraft of this nature. Have you not heard of CHAFF or Flares? All I have to do is slaughter your population or bomb the living hell out of it until you give in, I don't even have to set foot in it. By the way shoulder fired anti-aircraft weapons are useless against aircraft such as mine since the U.S. military made both the aircraft and the anti-aircraft weapon such as the "stinger".

Gilabad is upgrading "Task Force 122",

-20,000,000 regular troops
-30,000 terrorists
-2000 "Alpha Force" special forces
-80,000 M-12 "battlefortress" MBTs
-110,000 M-2 Bradleys
-700,000 Humvees w/50 cal.
-60,000 Blackhawk helicopters
-50,000 Apachie attack helicopters
-50 AC-130D gunships
-3 particle beam sattelites
-10 "Westmorland" class aircraft carriers
-12 "Texas" class battle cruisers
-600 F-14 Tomcats
-600 F-18 Hornets
-700 A6E Intruders
-500 MH-53 Pavelows
-400 A-10 "warthogs"
-150 F-22s
-150 F-35s
-300 B-2s
-3000 M1096 Paladins
-4000 SAM launchers
-2000 Patriot Missile systems
-3000 MLRS
-500 B-52s

To Gilabad -
We recommend that you stand down immediately. Regardless of the confidence you put in your military, you are likely to dramatically worsen your reputation on the world stage, along with your economy. This is a war of choice that you are fighting, not one of necessity. We hope you do not choose the wrong path.
Sincerely,
PM Timothy Kaine of The Beltway

OCc: This is still a load of BS. Where have I been threatning Capitalist nations. WHERE DAMNIT. And none of the Kurtish Republic messages have been read. Since the only reason they think our goverment is in anyway unfair or corrupt is because they haven't read about my nation.

OCc: This is still a load of BS. Where have I been threatning Capitalist nations. WHERE DAMNIT. And none of the Kurtish Republic messages have been read. Since the only reason they think our goverment is in anyway unfair or corrupt is because they haven't read about my nation.

Ok the description says that you are not corrupt. However you charge a 100% tax rate for high income earners! You have legalized Marajuana! What kind of "liberal" wanker do you think you are saying you're not corrupt! Your staff is probably too high to see that! OH NO ITS THE EVIL CORPORATIONS SOMEBODY PLEASE SAVE ME AAH! (saracstic)

OCc: This is still a load of BS. Where have I been threatning Capitalist nations. WHERE DAMNIT. And none of the Kurtish Republic messages have been read. Since the only reason they think our goverment is in anyway unfair or corrupt is because they haven't read about my nation.

Leader's speech:

"It seems that the Marxist leader has forgotten about the threat it made on Aequito and how it allied with other powerful socialist nations to make it back down. The Marxist State is too dangerous. We have decided that war is not the best option. We are currently in negotiations with The Marxist State to prevent a costly war on our nation. But to not get me wrong. The Kurtish Republic is NOT surrendering or backing down."

Message from the newly elected government of Prevostiana.

In an attempt to prevent a conflict between The Kurdish Republic and The Marxist State. We invite the leaders of the two countries, and leaders of any country for that matter. To attend a conference in Prevostiana to try and settle this issue without bloodshed.

As for our stance. We will not take sides on this seemingly complex and misunderstood issue. But we will do anything in our might to prevent armed conflict. We also demand that if this can be settled peacefully. That The Kurdish Republic not intrude on The Marxist State's sovereignty.

-General Secretary Adrienne Abel

OCC: I'll make this very clear, I refuse to RP a war with you and refuse to take in ICly anything you say. If my refusal to play 'UR a Stalinist Bitch I N00k U' with you is too hard to understand, then suicide is your only option.

Aequito was going to attack a NEW, SMALL nation JUST for being socialist (Democratic socialists at that) and no other reason whatsoever.

Your leader is being a hypocryt, in his speech he'd say he'd "right the socialist problem." He said NOTHING about only attacking when threatned, so it was my assumption he'd go after any communist nation.

Also, our leader really doesn't know a lot about the Kurtish Republic yet, I actually didn't think this was a serious threat, actually, its hilarious.


If you don't get the point, your too stupid for NationStates, let alone school, collage, athletics of any kind, or a decent paying job

Message from the newly elected government of Prevostiana.

In an attempt to prevent a conflict between The Kurdish Republic and The Marxist State. We invite the leaders of the two countries, and leaders of any country for that matter. To attend a conference in Prevostiana to try and settle this issue without bloodshed.

As for our stance. We will not take sides on this seemingly complex and misunderstood issue. But we will do anything in our might to prevent armed conflict. We also demand that if this can be settled peacefully. That The Kurdish Republic not intrude on The Marxist State's sovereignty.

-General Secretary Adrienne Abel

kurTish, not kurDish

***OFFICIAL IMPERIAL PROCLIMATION***
http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/Flaggif.GIF
http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/MiniFlags/FlagAlraibris_Small.gif http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/MiniFlags/FlagBolrasha_Small.gif http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/MiniFlags/FlagHalnara_Small.gif
To: The Leadership of the nation of
From: Galen Q. Leotardia, 2nd Emperor of the Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom

It has come to my attention that a threat has been made against all Socialism by your nation. Whilst it isn't the place of the Pure Socialist Holy Empire to dictate internal policy to your nation, we do feel that if any threats are made openly against the Pure Socalist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom, we will take it as an open declaration of war against our way of life. We will not stand idly by and watch a nation declare war on others for their political viewpoints. Now it is your call, unless you want the entirity of the Shazbotdom Marine Corps comming down on you, i would watch what you say to me.

Post Script: Also, i would watch who you declare war on. The Empire already has over one million troops stationed in The Marxist State helping them with another issue, we could easily turn them and fight any invasion that you launch. Not to mention the many more millions that are on standby here in the Mainland and our Colonies.

My forces have increased the alertness level. If we can work out an agreement for a staged withdrawl, but at this time this is not probable. Currently Task Force 122 stands at-

-20,000,000 regular troops
-30,000 terrorists
-2000 "Alpha Force" special forces
-80,000 M-12 "battlefortress" MBTs
-110,000 M-2 Bradleys
-700,000 Humvees w/50 cal.
-60,000 Blackhawk helicopters
-50,000 Apachie attack helicopters
-50 AC-130D gunships
-5 particle beam sattelites
-10 "Westmorland" class aircraft carriers
-12 "Texas" class battle cruisers
-600 F-14 Tomcats
-600 F-18 Hornets
-700 A6E Intruders
-500 MH-53 Pavelows
-400 A-10 "warthogs"
-150 F-22s
-150 F-35s
-300 B-2s
-3000 M1096 Paladins
-4000 SAM launchers
-2000 Patriot Missile systems
-3000 MLRS
-5000 B-52s
-6000 C-5 Galaxies
-500 C-17s
-7000 C-130 transports

SCENE: Imperial Palace
The Emperors day isn't over yet. Several AC-02's were being scrambled to prepare a preemptive strike against The Kurtish Republic in case of war. If he was threatening socialist states then the Empire would stand it's ground and defend the homeland and her colonies if war broke out. No matter the cost.

kurTish, not kurDishHahahaha, whoops.

Citizens can be frequently spotted going about their business stark naked, the nation has recently been attributed to the funding of terrorist organisations, cheese has become the new icon of political dissent, and UFO sightings are listed daily in the morning news.

OOC: You sound very civilised don't you...The Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom

The newly created Empire of Demon 666 would like to announce its support for the Kurtish Republic.
The global threat of socialism must be stopped.
We would like to establish an embassy in the Kurtish Republic.

Kanami still condems any nation raging war against Socialist States, including us. We take it as a direct threat. You may not be listning to us, but we will make you listen if we have too.

We strongly agree with Kanami. We are willing to arme up the navy, if be needed.

OOC: You sound very civilised don't you...The Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom

OOC:
What does that have to do with how i run my nation in RP's? And that has NOTHING to do with this RP whatsoever. The laws i pass in my nation help my Civil, Political and Economic rights go UP, which is what i want. The more liberties a person has, the better the nation. And socialism is built on giving people more freedoms. And being "Civilised" is defined as 1. Having a highly developed society and culture. 2. Showing evidence of moral and intellectual advancement; humane, ethical, and reasonable: terrorist acts that shocked the civilized world. 3. Marked by refinement in taste and manners; cultured; polished.

Don't you dare bring my nations main page into this conflict again to try and smear my nations good name.


IC:
A flight group of 15 SA-25A Badgers were patrolling the space near and around the MSF Bravery. Within a moments notice they could be deployed and dispatched through the atmosphere to intercept any and all hostile aircraft comming from the Nation of The Kurtish Republic. These were just a few of the 12,000 Badgers that were in service within the ranks of the Shazbotdom Space Corps. A small amount of the Badgers were in the ranks of the Dragon Class starship while the majority were being kept in storage for the release of the Reconciliation class Space Carrier (currently in development). This flight group of 15 could easily rip standard aircraft into pieces with it's impressive weaponry (1 32mm Gatling gun, 6 40mm Rail Guns, 8 Fusion Misisles).

Corporal Jackson was in charge of this flight group and he was keeping an eye on the satelite imagry that was being sent to him by the Bravery. If any aircraft exited The Kurtish Republic air space and entered international air space, he was ordered to decend into the atmosphere and intercept it, no matter what. If they were attacked, they were ordered to engauge using any means nessicary, especially if it ment damaging the enemy aircraft so they had to turn back and land. He was also to notify Bravery in case of an attack against the Badgers, due to the fact that this would constitute an Act of War on the part of The Kurtish Republic.

-Response-
All Socialists must stand together, therefore even though our nation is facing destruction for the same reasons, we still pledge whatever support we can provide. -Lone Alliance

IC:

Official Statement From The Pan-Soviet Union Premier, Comrade Vladimir Kuschchev:

The only gangsters are the ones who capitalise on other people's suffering, and that is of course, capitalists.

A perfect example of this is The Kurtish Republic, who no doubt aspires to build an empire of suffering by waging war on socialist nations.

The Iron Curtain Soviet Imperium Of The Pan-Soviet Union is not amused by the threats of The Kurtish Republic against socialist nations and as such advises the government there to desist, and respect other nation's sovereignty.

In a precautionary measure, The Red Army, Navy, Air Force, and Orbital Forces are moving from the level of Soviet Strike 2 to Soviet Strike 1 readiness, willing to act in co-ordination with other socialist nations if the need arises against the threat The Kurtish Republic continues to threaten to be, and take actions to remedy the threat into making it null and void.

Soviet Premier Comrade Vladimir Kuschchev,
Of The Iron Curtain Soviet Imperium Of The Pan-Soviet Union

OCC: I would like to remind everyone that none of my last posts have been IC, but simply to shut this person up.

SCENE: Strategic Missile Command
All across the map little green lights were comming on. The weapons were being prepared to wipe a Captialist Nation of The Kurtish Republic off the face of the planet if it came to it. Although the weapons were being prepared, the launch codes were not yet dispatched from Marine Command and the Emperors office in the Imperial Palace. The weapons being prepared were upgraded versions of the Minuteman III ICBM developed by the United States during the late 1960's into the 1970's. The upgrades done were to make them faster than their predicessors. While the Empire had 200 of these weapons, only a total of 5 missiles were being prepared for launch.

SCENE: MSF Bravery
The Badgers were finalizing their third sensor sweep of the area and decided to move closer to the atmosphere for their fourth sweep. They would start by decending 1,000 feet to the upper stratusphere and then run a sensor sweep at that altitude.

Jackson: "Alright people. Stick tight."

The Badgers then started the slow decent toward the altitude of their choosing.

SCENE: Imperial Palace
After looking at the situation in The Marxist State, Galen turned his attention to the papers on his desk and the Minister of Defence, Grand Admiral Rockenbach. He looked over the latest intel from the MSF Bravery.

Galen: "Alright. So they are starting their 4th sensor sweep of the area. What else should i know?"

Rockenbach: "Well, sir. I've scanned the available data from the United Nation on the Nation of The Kurtish Republic and I found some interesting figures. Our report shows that their freedoms as follows: Economic, Thriving; Civil, Some; Political, Rare."

Galen: "So they are disrespecting us when our freedoms are a lot better than theirs?"

Rockenbach: "Yes, Sir. We also have some data that shows their Defence Budget, although impressive, is less than eight percent of the size of our Defence Budget. I also have reports that their region might plan on invading ours, although with no powers alloted to the UN Deligate for the region, it will be hard and near impossible for them to crash the region."

Galen: "Alright." He stood up and walked over to the window at the far end of his office. "We need to show that we will not be pushed around at all. If we wish to 'Enlighten' other nations to the Socialist Cause and those nations accept it willingly, then who are they to tell us what to do?" He then walked back to his desk and punched a button, making the Plasma screen on the wall change to a map of The Kurtish Republic. "What I want done is the following. Dispatch One single loan sub to a location close to their region but in International Waters. If they have a problem with it there they can take it up with the United Nations or attack it, but if it is attack we will consider it an act of war. Load up the sub with 15 SRBM's with typical submunitions, no nuclear weapons."

Rockenbach: "Understood, sir." He then stood up and walked out of the room, heading toward his office so he could notify Shazbotdom Naval Command.

Bump

Warlord Shawhabas was sitting in his office when his top military advisors came in.

"Sir, we have an update for the situation involving the Kurtish Republic"

"Well let's hear it."

"The Nation of Shazbotdom is showing extensive military aggression, I think it's time we escelate. We've detected a large force attempting to blockade the Kurtish republic, and our sattelites are showing that there has been an activation of an unknown number of Ballistick missiles sites, that is unconfirmed. We strongly suggest a response."

"OK first I want you to contact General Paul Bremer and inform him that he is now in command of Task Force 122. Second I want particle beam sattelites watching both the Force attempting to blockade the Kurtish Republic and Shazbotdom on a 24/7 basiss. If they launch missiles, I want you to blow them out of the sky and if they launch an attack neutralize as much as possible until the our main response force arrives, is that understood?"

"Yessir!"

Several Particle Beam sattelites were activated and began observing both Shazbotdom and the blockade force around the Kurtish Republic"

Tomoyo was also keeping up with recent events. "I don't like this, we are just barley comming out of war. Despite the fact we didn't fire a shot, and it was mostly and Air-Campaing from Kanami. Li still not back?"

"No-milady, must be the storm."

"Kanami is very much a socialist nation, and our greatest ally. I think we should support them if they go to war. Give them food, soliders, supplies. We owe them so much, we must help. Let the Cabinate Record state, if Kanami goes to War, we will help."

FleetCOM HQ
Secure Conference Room 18

"Next order of business, elminating the Atomic Dragoons, their horses and tactics are outdated and their boltguns are a bit iffy..."

Speaker: (Alertness Level UP, Attention, Alertness Level UP)

"What the hell?!"

"Shazbotdom has gone to alert, so has the Marxist State along with the Lone Alliance."

"Shit, what over?"

"Here is the brief we need to act, now!"

"Lock Strategic Missiles, the military's job is to keep the people safe, the politicians are the ones to make war."

[Encrypted to allies in Shazbotdom and the Lone Alliance]

"Conventional Strategic Missiles locked on Kurtish Republican Probable Military Assets"
"Herbicidal Biological/Chemical Missiles are locked on probable farmlands and orchards"
"Airborne on high alert, 2 brigades of the Confederate Guard ready"
"Naval Assets on high alert"
"Anti-Satellite Satellites active and locked on Gilabad particle beam satellites via radiation sensors, they are powered up"
"Anti-Satellite Microsatellite Launchers are ready to replace downed satellites"
"Anti-Satellite Missiles Ready"
"Any and all recommendations for targets can be considered, just forward us a target and we'll dispatch with a Strategic Missile within 3 hours."

[Official Response]

We condemn all anti-socialist nations for their acts against common human ethics and commend our socialist allies for trying to negotiate peace. However, the situation continues to deteroirate and war seems imminent. We encourage the opening of diplomatic dialogue and for all nations to step back from rhetoric and admit we are all brothers of the same species (OOC: though Leafanistanis are arguably a different subspecies due to genemodding, 2 metres tall and rock hard muscle isn't very normal human is it?) and try to find a peaceful solution.

We further condemn Kravania (check your TGs) for their unreasonable and ludicris stance on socialism and 'liberalism'. Socialism enforces the common human decency and allows every in society an equal chance regardless of their class status. Our fully funded academies and vocational schools churn out doctors, lawyers, programmers, businessmen with extreme efficiency and allows even Tiny Tim from the slums a chance to be a lawyer fighting for justice or a doctor trying to save the lives of others. Your nation is a cesspool of ignorance and apathy gone wild. A foundation of bones is very shaky. We are hearby imposing a full sanction of Kravanian goods from all Leafanistani territories and are no longer engaging in trade with Kravania.

We have also sent an angry fruit basket expressing our discontent with Kravania's political system though an acknowledgement that they have some good qualities. Enjoy the apple-flavoured oranges, pineapples, kiwis, and grapes. We've also sent a bouquet of genetically modified bright green roses to the Kravanian government to put on their party HQ to remember those lost by their draconian system of pointless slaughter.

Don't bother I've already tried it, does anyone listen to a plea of piece, no.

OCC: We have gone on no such alert, we will not panic the people over this pure bullshit.

OOC:I suggest you ignore Gilabad, he RPs logistical and Phsyical impossibillities. He got 62,000 troops out of a small village into jungle terrain in 5 minutes. The United States would take several hours to do the same thing with fewer troops.

IC:Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"Although we are not to fond of Communist and Socialist States, we are OUTRAGED at the Kurtish Republics attempt to blatantly violate the soveriegnty of other nations. As such, we are deploying the 8th SuperDreadnought BattleForce to international waters off the Kurtish Republics coast. Any attack on this fleet will be considered an act of war and will result in the utter devestation of any port facilities inside the fleets range."
End Message

OOC2:Kurtish Republic, you try to pull any BS on me and you can consider yourself ignored.

SHAZBOTDOM NEWS NETWORK
In a rare public appearance, Conservative Parliamentary Member Ted Munro spoke out in relation to the Anti-Socialist reteric comming out of the Kurtish Republic. "The day that the Empire will bow to a nation will be the day that hell freezes over! I may be a conservative but i believe that Emperor Leotardia is doing a wonderful job and is taking this threat from the Kurtish Republic very seriously." He went on to say that he supports war if, and only if, the Kurtish Republic fires the first shot.

In relation to the events unfolding, several Marine Companies are being called up to their specified bases and undergoing pre war medical checkups to ensure that they are healthy enough for conflict. Also some of the SCS Marines are being activated and are being brought up to the MSF Bravery via some of the AC-02's assigned to the Marine Corps Air Division base in southern Shazbotdom. Several StarFury squadrons are in constant patrols around the MSF Bravery making sure that the sky is clear of enemies and the USS Swanson has been deployed in international waters off the coast of the Region that the Kurtish Repubic is in. We will bring more information to you as it unfolds. This is Jack Hanno from Shazbotdom News Network Studio 1A signing off.

Red Tides, I did that because for some reason you somehow had "better" equipment than anyone else and you also seemed to have soldiers and pilots that were immune to bullets. We're trying to have a civilized RP here. As a matter of fact if you start pullin all your godmoding BS in this RP, I you can consider yourself ignored!

OOC:Not to menchion how your all powerful RADAR could go 150 miles up and over the mountains and detect objects near the surface of the ocean, on the other side of the island.

General Bremer began deploying "Task Force 122" to The Kurtish Republic. Hundreds of C-5s, C-17s, and C-130s carried troops and vehicles to the Kurtish Republic. The entire formation was gaurded by the full force of escort fighters. All aircraft had their indicator lights flashing, which signaled them as non-aggressive as they headed twoards the Kurtish Republic.

Audio Transmission
"Gilabad flight group, are you here to defend the Capitalist Dogs that have threatened my people's way of life, or are you here to show them that no one will bow down to them? Respond!"

Skitsojd MilitaryCenter
OCW: Operation Control Watchlist

"Sir!" Yelled a Comm officer

"What is it?" Answer the Comm Systems Manager. He had been at this posistion for awhile now and nothing had happened. Till now that is.

"It seems Gilabaldian forces are being Ferried to The Kurtish Republic" The Comm said. He face was a little scared at this. He knew what might happen. War. War it stung the lips of all members of OCW. With that the Manager picked up his Radio and radioed his Superiors.

"Yes, this is Leuitenant Jones." The Man said into his radio

"Sir, I have news that the Commanders need to know." The Comm Manager said. Jones took a second to think on this. What if the Manager was being an idiot. He decided to let him talk to the Commanders.

"Patchin' you through" He said.

"General Fiker here." The General said. A look of horrow arrived on his face.

"What is it Jack?" Said Grand Admiral Stevens.

"The Gilabaldians have deployed portions of their military into the Kurtish Republic in hopes of defending it from an Attack from Socialist Nation" The General

"What are we gonna do?" Said Air Marshall Daniels. He was quite scared of the idea of war with Gilabald. This was expected.

"I am taking an Executive Order here. Number 156. All Skitsojd Forces will be put on high alert. Security will be overhauled on all military bases and Airports. The General Said. "So do you agree?" he asked his Partners

In Unison they said "Yes..."

"So be it" The General Said. With that he phoned the Chancellor to tell him the news.

OOC:Oh how those foolish statements make me chuckle... its not my fault that you guys were using equipment that is considered outdated by NS terms(I BARELY got a chance to begin fighting anyways). You also claimed a redicilous amount of equipment. I mean, the claimed 'fifty' particle beam sattelites ALONE would bankrupt your nation. If you still claim to have 'fifty' particle beam sattelites, then I guess all those tanks are cardboard cut outs and all your men are poorly trained rabble armed with machetes. As for the RADAR/LADAR thing... its not my fault that your airplanes were flying high enough to be detected by my RADAR/LADAR(an assumption since you never roleplayed exactly what height your planes were at). Unless you were talking about the helicopter... which(I believe) was a miscommunication... I thought the helicopter was on MY side of the island... but meh. Keep up your silly accusations, I like them... especially the fact that I actually TOOK damage, unlike you who did a BS evacuation that could never be possible.

(Ignored, I don't want to spend this entire RP arguing about another!)

Warlord Shawhabas was in a briefing when he got the news of the radio contact with Shazbotdom. He immediately went to the Command senter and he was patched in to the Shazbotdom forces.

"This is not, I repeat this is not, an offensive force! We're under diplomatic sanction to support the Kurtish Republic IN CASE OF AN ATTACK! We have allowed you to support the Marxist State, we respect your views I ask that you respect ours. This is a defensive force only. Do you read me?"......

OOC: Ok I didn't understand part of it... that was directed at me right?
Also BUMP

OOC:Oh yes sorry.

As Warlord Shawhabas sat waiting for a response, one of his advisors came up to him.
"Sir, we think that there maye an alternate route that doesn't cross hostile territory"

"What! Where is it? And make it fast so I don't miss their response!"

"OK on the other side of the Kurtish Republic there is possibly neutral territory that we can cross and it's further away from the Marxist State, so there is likely little or no hostile military presence there. We're still waiting for the sattelite photographs"

Defence Budget (after currency conversion): $642,514,000,495.27

Infantry (including field medics etc.): 5,085,714 soldiers at $1,000 each. Total: $5,085,714,000
Tanks:
1,000 TD4 tankss at $1,000,000 each. Total: $1,000,000,000 500 APC2 APCs at $100,000 each. Total: $50,000,000 600 LT3 reconnisance tanks at $550,000 each. Total: $330,000,000
Navy:
115 AC2 aircaft carriers at $100,000,000 each. Total: $11,500,000,000 with: 25 PP5 jets each at $35,000,000 each. Total: $100,625,000,000 1,000 SD8 destroyers at $95,000,000 each. Total: $95,000,000,000
TOTAL SPENDING: $213,590,714,000
DEFENCE BUDGET SURPLUS: $428,923,286,495.27

OOC: A 1 million dollar tank? It must be one s***y tank. The M1A2 Abrams costs SIX MILLION DOLLARS.

OOC:
Kurtish, you really want to get into a "Who's got a bigger military" thing? I guess i win.

TOTAL MILITARY: 95,184,650
Active Military Forces: 83,070,000
From Active
Marines: 75,000,000
Navy: 400,000
Spec Ops: 7,500,000
SCS Spec Ops: 2,000
Air Corps: 105,000
Aerospace Fighters: 63,000
Logistics and Support: Run by private corporation. Exact numbers unknown


Reserve Military Forces: 12,114,650

Government budget after currency conversion:219,136,214,601,640$


Active military

200,000,000-regular troops
4,000,000-terrorists
classified-"Alpha" Force Special Forces
170,000,000-Marines
90,000,000-ground vehicle operators
200,000,000-Air force (personnel)
100,000,000-Navy (personnel)

Total 800,000,000

Reserve Total
-100,000,000 (personnel)

Let's not turn into a bluff battle...anyway back to the RP!

OOC:
The guy doesn't want to battle. Or else he would have RPed 2 weeks ago. He just wants to harass us.

Who are you talking to? If it is me, I've not RPd because I'm still waiting on the reply from you on my forces heading for the Kurtish Republic.

OOC: A 1 million dollar tank? It must be one s***y tank. The M1A2 Abrams costs SIX MILLION DOLLARS.

They are massed produced.

OOC:
Kurtish, you really want to get into a "Who's got a bigger military" thing? I guess i win.

TOTAL MILITARY: 95,184,650
Active Military Forces: 83,070,000
From Active
Marines: 75,000,000
Navy: 400,000
Spec Ops: 7,500,000
SCS Spec Ops: 2,000
Air Corps: 105,000
Aerospace Fighters: 63,000
Logistics and Support: Run by private corporation. Exact numbers unknown


Reserve Military Forces: 12,114,650

Have you converted your currency? Being an extreme socialist nation would probably quarter your money after the exchange. Can you list the cost of each item/s?

OOC:
The numbers i've quoted are not money spent in those area's, that is how many people are in those area's. If i did conversion, my entire military would cost me 30% of my defence budget, which is currently $12,824,847,303,966.72

So 30% of that would be $3,847,454,191,190.01 and that would leave me with a surplus of roughly $8,977,393,112,776.70.


p.s. My current exchange rate is 1 Shazbot = $1.2233

Um sorry to interrupt, but are we going to continue the RP or not. I've gotten tired of this "Cold War" style of intimidation.

To all nations involved in this dispute -
We hereby offer to hold talks in Dunbarton Oaks, Georgetown. We feel that a diplomatic settlement is the best way out of a rapidly deteriorating situation, and implore all nations involved to agree to talks. Please act in a sane, reasonable manner and let time and diplomacy cool down a dangerous situation.
Sincerely,
PM Timothy Kaine of The Beltway

Ok since I've gotten no reply from Shazbotdom, I'm going to assume that they're ignoring me.

The formation was able to cross into the Kurtish Republic. They deployed all of the troops and vehicles to reinforfce the Kurtish Republic's military.

Ok since I've gotten no reply from Shazbotdom, I'm going to assume that they're ignoring me.

The formation was able to cross into the Kurtish Republic. They deployed all of the troops and vehicles to reinforfce the Kurtish Republic's military.

I was orriginally talking to Kurtish. But seeing as they refuse to RP, i am dropping out of this. Unless he decides that he wants to really RP this war, but that seems unlikely.

OK this RP has fallen apart. I'm withdrawing my forces from the Kurtish Republic. This situation has been resolved peacefully.


IC: 36 Kurtish jets flew towards enemy fighters in international airspace.

:sniper:

FORWARD COMMAND CENTER:

"Tell them to stay on standby. Fire on MY ORDERS ONLY!" the Kurtish leader instructed.

ACE JET ONE:

"Roger that, Delta Control."

The 36 fighters armed their missiles and said a short prayer as they flew twice the speed of sound towards the communist planes.

OOC:
Me and Gilbad have withdrawn from this RP. Unless you wan tto declare war upon us, I will (and i am sure he will to) ignore any attacks made in this RP.

Ignore my last statement, Gilabadian forces are still in the Kurtish Republic to repel any attack made on it.

To all nations involved in this dispute -
We hereby offer to hold talks in Dunbarton Oaks, Georgetown. We feel that a diplomatic settlement is the best way out of a rapidly deteriorating situation, and implore all nations involved to agree to talks. Please act in a sane, reasonable manner and let time and diplomacy cool down a dangerous situation.
Sincerely,
PM Timothy Kaine of The Beltway

Prime Minister Kakarov responded by saying simply "I will not sip tea with the enemey, we are not attending these talks."