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DR-83M 21st Century Tactical Rifle

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Design History and Overview

The DR-83. A weapon that has etched its name in the bloodied anals of history as one of the greatest tools devised for the purpose of killing of our time. Dozens of nations continue to equip their armies with some form of the weapon, including the Imperium Doomanum. It has become not only one of the most widely proliferated weapon systems in the world- it has become an icon. A symbol of tyranny; a symbol of freedom. A symbol of terror; a symbol of justice. It has found itself in the hands of a wide plethora of combatants: Legionaries, peacekeepers, special forces operatives, freedom fighters, criminals, police.

Tens of billions of DR-83 rifles have been manufactured; with the sheer number of nations producing the weapon under liscence on top of the largest manufacturer of the weapon, Doomingsland Defense Industries, it is almost impossible to ever truely know the amount of rifles that have been produced. Recent estimates by several third party groups estimate the number of DR-83s in all its configurations in circulation to be upwards of thirty billion units, although there is a distinct possibility that this is an understatement. Needless to say, it is the most successful weapon ever produced by DDI, spawning numerous offshoots. Its designer, I. Lucasus Aemillianus, has gone on to design numerous other popular weapons, including the DAC-97 sub machinegun, and is now one of the wealthiest citizens of the Imperium Doomanum.

Originally concieved in the late 80s as a replacement to the aging DR-78 series, the DR-83 first entered service in 1995, replacing the DR-78M as the primary infantry arm of the Exercitus. It was a notable improvement over the previous weapon: the newer round had far lighter recoil, and this new rifle was far lighter in weight than the older battle rifle. The average Imperial soldier now wielded a fully automatic infantry rifle, something that foreign soldiers had had for decades; Doomani soldiers were denied this advantage due to the fact that the DR-78 fired an enourmous full-sized rifle cartridge, the 7.8x63mm round, which boasted superb performance at long range and unparalleled knockdown power. Its armor piercing loads even rendered body armor totally useless in the face of small arms fire, something foreign assault rifles couldn't boast.

However, combat in urban environments had demonstrated this weapon to be far too unwieldy in house-to-house fighting, and a short-barreled carbine version of the DR-78 and DR-78M proved to have pitiful accuracy and highly reduced terminal performance while still weighing a good deal. This new rifle had none of the problems of the old DR-78 but still boasted excellent killing power and even comparable accuracy to the older rifle (although sniper variants of the DR-83 have been proven to be more accurate than sniper variants of the DR-78 due to the design of the weapon). And, naturally, the DR-83 was just as reliable as the venerable '78, boasting an extremely simple design that required little to no maintenance, and, if the shooter did see fit to clean the weapon, taking it down and stripping it takes all of five seconds.

In the next twenty years of production, over twenty billion DR-83s would be built by Doomingsland Defense Industries, and build under liscence by several dozen other nations. In the year 2017, the DR-83.II, the first major modification as a standard infantry arm to the DR-83, entered service (and indeed remains in service with a good deal of armed forces), which introduced balanced automatics as well as a newer stock. This variant was far more controllable on full auto than the DR-83 due to its balanced automatics, although it was admitedly just over half a pound heavier than its predecessor as well as being more complex to build and maintain (although it was still able to boast being one of the most reliable infantry weapons in existance due to the robust design of the weapon.)

In 2023, just five years after the introduction of the DR-83.II, the DR-83M entered production: this version was virtually identical in all aspects to the DR-83.II with the exception of the stock. The DR-83M boasted a stock that was both collapsable and folding, making the weapon suitable for the vast majority of conventional military forces, including mechanized troops and paratroopers. The DR-83M remains the current production model of the DR-83, and is argueably more popular than the original DR-83 with professional military forces.

Overall Design

The DR-83 was built from the ground up for use with mechanized infantry. Thus, it is relatively compact in comparison to other battlerifles, such as the DR-78. Making use of an eighteen-inch steel barrel, the weapon is both maneuverable in close quarters scenarios, and lethal at great range. The barrel itself is free floating, allowing for even greater accuracy. In order to compensate for recoil, the barrel is fitted with an advanced muzzle brake. While this does increase the sound produced when firing the weapon, this is traded off with vastly reduced muzzle climb and lessened recoil. While the weapon is generally issued with a muzzle brake, the barrel itself is threaded, allowing for the shooter to swap it out with a variety of other accesories, such as flash or sound suppresors. The barrel is forged from 4150 chrome molybdenum steel and given a black finish, producing an excellent component.

The DR-83M features a completely revamped stock compared to previous renditions of the DR-83. This parcticular version is far more ergonomical than previous variations while maintaining the same lightweight characteristics and milspec strength. The collapsable stock not only features six different settings for length, but now features an adjustable cheek piece that allows the shooter to adjust for height (this cheek piece can also be adjusted for length). However, the biggest different between this stock and previous versions are that this one is capable of folding, making for the most compact rendition of the DR-83 to date. A rubber pad can also be fixed to the butt, further reducing felt recoil.

In order to be more maneuverable at closer range, the weapon had to be relatively light, while still maintaining low recoil and overall strength. As a result, the weapon's furniture (handguard, pistol grip, ect.) are constructed of a strong, lightweight polymer, allowing for a tough weapon that is still lightweight. The actual vented handguard maintains an advanced integrated rail system. This consists of four rails: a top rail, which runs along the whole the the weapon, two side rails, allowing for the mounting of flashlights, and a bottom rail. This allows for numerous accesories to be added: a forward assualt grip are generally mounted on the bottom rail to allow for easier handling of the weapon, while flashlights and lasers are often mounted on the side rails. The top rail can accomodate numerous scopes or even an ACU-41 semi-automatic grenade launcher. The pistol grip is highly ergonomical, allowing for easy use and added accuracy.

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In regards to sighting systems, the DR-83's own iron sights are quite superb. Tritium sights, good for both day and night combat, are used with this weapon, using rear peep sights and front post sights, allowing for quick and easy range and wingadge adjustment for open engagements over long distances. These sights feature an MOA of 1.25, allowing for accurate fire over long ranges.

The weapon's operation allows for the greatest possible reliability. Using a short-stroke gas piston, the weapon produces superb results in the area of reliability (tests by the Imperial Government put 10,000 rounds through the weapon without a single failure); however, the DR-83's action utilizes a balancing counter-piston, which travels in the opposite direction of the main piston, greatly reducing recoil impulse on fully automatic fire and as a result greatly increasing accuracy. Unlike most rifles, this configuration is not reliant on a tight fit with the bolt group. Rather, it uses rails along with irs recoil spring guide rod and long stroke piston to help keep the carrier in line, while leaving ample room for debris to fall. The DR-83's recoil reduction system is also utilized, reducing the hitting of metal against metal in the operation of the bolt.

Loading the weapon follows as such: The shooter rocks the magazine into place until it locks in nice and tight. With that accomplished, he or she pulls back the charging handle, located on the right-hand side of the weapon. By doing this, a round is exracted from the magazine. The shooter then simply releases the charging handle, letting it slap forward. When the last round has been fired, the bolt stays back. When reloading the weapon, the shooter would insert the magazine and tap the bolt release, causing it to slap forward and chamber the first round. This allows for much quicker reload times, making for a more effective overall weapon.

The weapon's reciever is machined from a solid 4140 steel forging. While this method of manufacturing is more difficult, it produces a far more rugged, superior component. Tests by the Imperial Government on DR-83 recievers found that they were capable of withstanding tremendous pressure.

The trigger group is carefully machined and features an ultra-smooth pull, meaning that the shooter won't move the weapon nearly as much when squeezing off a round. This adds to the accuracy. Also aiding in accuracy is the use of a titanium hammer rather than a regular steel one.

The weapon features push-pin assembly and disassembly, allowing for the weapon to be quickly and easily field-stripped, breaking down into just four major components in a matter of seconds.

The magazine cache is similar to most other rifles, requiring the magazine to be rocked into position in order to lock in. The magazines range in construction and design, with current magazines in use with the Imperial Army being constructed of transparent plastic (allowing for the shooter to view how many rounds are left in the magazine) and holding thirty 6.7x53mm rounds, featuring in-built notches and hooks to allow the magazines to be clamped together.

The selector switch is located on the left side of the weapon above the pistol grip. This allows for extreme ease of access, allowing the shooter to switch rate of fire with the flick of the thumb, without taking his hand off of the pistol grip. The switch has four settings: 'SAFE', 'SEMI', 'BURST, and 'AUTO'. The weapon's burst function is a two-round burst, allowing for greater accuracy.

Cartridge

Drawing on experience from both the DR-31 and DR-78, designers and Doomingsland Defense Industries put together a round that would have managable recoil but superior kinetic energy and knockdown power. The result of this was a blending between cartrages: the 6.7x53mm Imperial cartrage. Standard issue cartrages use a 135-grain bullet. While it is more than twice as heavy as the 5.56x45mm NATO cartrage, it is still light enough to allow for superb kinetic energy from the long case, which is acualy a shortened, necked down 7.8x63mm case.

Using advanced quick burning powder and superb ignition with a steel case, the 6.7mm cartrage's combination of weight and kinetic energy produces what the Empire sees as the perfect round: excellent range, excellent penetration, excellent terminal performance. This allows for the penetration of body armor at long ranges while maintaining awsome knockdown power. When used in close quarters, the 6.7mm cartrage is positively deadly, piercing most body armor and dropping men with a single hit. When used in two-round burst, a kill is almost assured.

In order to penetrate armor and put down an enemy soldier, DDI designers came up with a blended metal bullet for the new 6.7mm cartridge. While this round is seen to have questionable results by some nation's militaries, blended metal rounds have served the Empire well through multiple wars with distinction, effectively penetrating body armor and causing horrific wounds.

Accuracy Results

*At 100 meters with standard issue ammunition, results reflect five-shot groups from the prone position with iron sights

Velocity- 2,954 feet per second

Best group- 1.34"

Worst group- 2.11"

Average group- 1.55"

Specifications and Variants

All DR-83 variants feature the same construction materials. The DMG-83, however, features a more solid polymer fixed stock containing the buffer group rather than a collapsable one as with the DR-83. It is also a belt-fed weapon rather than magazine fed, and thus its action is slightly different to allow for this. The DMG-83 also features a built-in bipod and carry handle to further optimise it for its role.

The DRS-83 is a designated marksman weapon chambered for the larger 7.8x63mm round. This also features a full stock but has tighter tolerences, making it more accurate. Any other important changes are listed in the specifications of the weapons, otherwise all weapons feature the same high quality materials used in construction, flip up iron sights, and integrated rail system.

A version of the DR-83M, featuring a twenty inch barrel rather than an eighteen inch barrel, designated the DR-83ML, is also available, and is currently in service with Imperial mountain infantry legions, one of the Imperium Doomanum's few pure-bred infantry formations. This variant boasts superior accuracy over the shorter version.

DR-83M Tactical Rifle

Type- Tactical Rifle

Caliber- 6.7x53mm Imperial

Muzzle Velocity- 3,050 FPS

Operation- Balanced short stroke gas piston, rotating bolt

Barrel Length- 18 inches

Overall Length- 36 inches (stock fully extended) 25 inches (folded)

Weight- 9.8lbs loaded

Feed- 30 round box magazine or 100 round drum magazine

Effective Range- 750 meters

Rifling- 4 grooves, 1:10 right hand

Rate of Fire- 550, 600, and 700 Rounds per Minute (adjustable gas valve)

Fire Modes- Semi Automatic, 2-round Burst, Automatic

Export Cost- $1,600

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OOC: Nice rifle, it looks like a fusion of an M-4 and the AK-74SU from the pic.

OOC: That gun is pretty cool, I will probably make an order in future.

OOC: Nice rifle, it looks like a fusion of an M-4 and the AK-74SU from the pic.
OOC:Yeah, that was MP's handiwork (the pic, I mean).

That is one nice son of a b*tch. Damn good rifle, Doomingsland. :) I would even buy some if we weren't enemies. ;)

The United Socialist States of Ripp would like to place an order of

500 DR-83 Rifles [$1,800]

This order comes to a total of $900,000 to be wire transfered upon confermation.

Signed
General Joey Haack
U.S.S.Rp

The United Socialist States of Ripp would like to place an order of

500 DR-83 Rifles [$1,800]

This order comes to a total of $900,000 to be wire transfered upon confermation.

Signed
General Joey Haack
U.S.S.Rp
Official Corporate Response

Your transaction of funds has been completed. The merchandise is being shipped immediately. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

A precision instrument of unquestionable accuracy and range, however, there is the issue of it's durability... with the steady change of the modern battle field, what kind of environmental extremes can this firearm survive? has it been field-proven or merely laboratory tested? I am remindd of Old america's M-16 assault rifle in comparison to the AK-74,

A precision instrument of unquestionable accuracy and range, however, there is the issue of it's durability... with the steady change of the modern battle field, what kind of environmental extremes can this firearm survive? has it been field-proven or merely laboratory tested? I am remindd of Old america's M-16 assault rifle in comparison to the AK-74,
Official Corporate Response

When designing the DR-83 Tactical Rifle, reliability and durability was one of the most important factors going into the weapon. As a result, it saw extensive field testing in temperate, arctic, and desert environments, in addition to laboratory testing that involved putting highly strenous pressure on key parts such as the reciever and other assorted 'torture tests'. Its ultra-rugged design performed flawlessly in all tests. This weapon is more comparable to the AK-74 you spoke of than the M-16 in terms of reliability. This weapon is, by far, the most reliable modern infantry weapon in existance, comparable to the AK-47 or M-14 in that area.

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Maybe you should include a list of nations using the rifle in the writeup

OOC: Extremely nice, Doomingsland. I must now go back and relook the M4B2 before releasing it...

I'd buy some myself if we used the 6.7x53mm round. The only real thing I find bad with this weapon is it's weight.

Maybe you should include a list of nations using the rifle in the writeup
OOC:You know, I think I'll do that.

OOC: Extremely nice, Doomingsland. I must now go back and relook the M4B2 before releasing it...

I'd buy some myself if we used the 6.7x53mm round. The only real thing I find bad with this weapon is it's weight.
OOC:Well, I can easily manufacture a rechambered version for clients...

The Confederacy of Sniper Country would like to purchase:

(6) DR-83 21st Century Tactical Rifle (5.56mm)[$10,800]

For the purpose of testing and review of the weapon. If you would like, we can publish the results of the tests and reviews.

::$10,800 WIRED::

Official Corporate Response

Your custom order has been confirmed. The rifles that are being shipped feature standard NATO STANAG magazine interface, and are being shipped with DDI-manufactured forty-five round 5.56mm magazines. The weapons have also been modified for a higher rate of fire. We hope you find them satisfactory.

OOC:I'll probably make a refined version chambered for 5.56mm
(specifically for your army and anyone else who just HAS to have 5.56mm) depending on whether the tests go well for you or not.

Can i use the 6.7x53mm Imperial cartridge in my marines and guards light machine guns to simplify logistics?

Can i use the 6.7x53mm Imperial cartridge in my marines and guards light machine guns to simplify logistics?
Actualy, there's a light machinegun version of the DR-83 (the DMG-83, foregrip has a built-in bipod, heavy barrel, then you just load a 100-round drum mag, I think its actualy mentioned somewhere in the description.) You can easily produce the nessesary parts to convert some of the rifles locally using your own manufacturing and whatnot. Other than that, yeah, go ahead and use the round if you don't wanna do that.

To: Doomingsland Defense Industries
From: Colonel Valeev, Material Administration, Brutaltopian People's Army
Subject: Acquisition of DR-83 rifles for eval

Searching for a reliable and accurate assault rifle, our attention has been drawn to the DR-83 tactical rifle.
Considering our demanding operating environment, where the temperatures can frequently go down as low as -40 degrees Celsius, you will understand that any and all material must go through strict evaluation programs.

Thus, we place an order for forty (40) DR-83 rifles and if possible, twenty (20) of these should be chambered for the 6.5x40 SARA round, the other twenty (20) chambered for your standard 6.7x53mm Imperial.

Ad maiorem gloriam,
Colonel Valeev, Material Administration, Brutaltopian People's Army
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Official Corporate Response

Colonel,

Your order has been processed and the weapons are being produced to your specifications (caliber-wise) as we speak. The DR-83 was tested with success in such environments as you spoke of and we are certain that you will be able to duplicate our own test results. However, keep in mind that the DR-83 was originally designed for the 6.7mm Imperial round alone, so any reduction in accuracy with the 6.5x40 SARA round can be attributed to this fact. We look forward to doing buisiness.

DR-83 21st Century Tactical Rifle - Reviewed

Sergeant First Class John-Andy Bowen, 23rd "Shattered Union" Infantry Division

Well first let me say that the DR-83 is a superb weapon. I fired two twenty-round magazines in the upright, kneeling, and prone supported positions, and had relative success with all of them.

The biggest complaint I have about the weapon is its weight. From what I was told, the DR-83 was developed for use with Mechanized Infantry units. Most Mech. units are going to want a sturdy, maneuverable, lightweight weapon for any number of different scenarios. Personally, I've never been in a Mech. unit, so I can't speak as if I were. But from a basic infantryman's standpoint, it's just flat-out heavy. It weighs more than my M14, and that's a hefty son-of-a-gun. But I'll come back to this.

I really like this advanced "muzzle break" as they call it. Sure, it makes a louder 'boom' when it goes off, but I can live with that. Oh, that's one thing I almost forgot - it doesn't seem there's the capability for a flash suppressor to be attached. It's not a big deal, but if it's going to be serviced in the Special Forces, that may be a concern. But anyway, that "muzzle break" really reduces on the recoil and weapon climb, making it easier for multiple shots at close intervals to hit on point. Plus, with a weight like this, the less recoil the better.

The stock's pretty much just like any other telesoping stock. Same concept, and overall same design. They added a compartment for what I'm assuming would be a cleaning kit - something the SCAF has never put into the M4-series, for certain "compactness" reasons.

One thing I noticed was that this top RIS goes all the way down both the upper and lower receivers. The other three follow along the upper receiver, giving a total four RIS to play with. The SCAF adopted this technique on the M4B1 a few years back, and has turned in awesome results. We just use a different type of system. I'm glad somebody else starting using this technique. I really like it, and hope other nations start taking advantage of the 4-Way RIS like this.

Iron sights, eh, scarcely use them. We fired one magazine with a scope and one with the sights in each position, and I have just one major complaint. It's really just the fact that the iron sights are so low on the weapon. Putting the cheek to the stock hardly allows one to utilize the iron sights at all. They seem to either need to be higher up, or done away with completely to allow for a scope system only.

The operational design of this weapon is odd. I don't full understand it. The weapon doesn't seem to use a charging handle, which is extremely odd. It's hard to understand how a round even gets locked and loaded. Actually, just loaded. There's no locking in the process at all. Seemingly, it's all automated. Which, for myself, is not what I'd like. If you do get a jam with this weapon, then how're you supposed to get it out? A double-feed is just as scary. However, to give credit where it's due, I did not encounter any malfunctions when firing this weapon. And look at this magazine. See the flat bottom? I'm not sure their secret, but they must have one heck of a spring in the bottom of it to keep on feeding - funky little design.

They seem to have also reduced the pressure-weight for trigger pull. I'd estimated around four pounds. This tinker is extremely nice. Unless you just try, there's hardly any trigger-pull reduction to accuracy. Very nice.

Now, field stripping the weapon. It's so much different than any other weapon I've ever stripped. I must note I didn't strip the weapon myself, but watched another do it. The dust-cover is removable, a feature I've never seen on a weapon before. Seemingly one reaches inside the dust-cover area, and removes the spring. I find this incredibly dangerous, as many weapons have been known to go off, whilst being stripped, sending the spring flying. This could easily take off a finger, or fingers, a hand, or take a life. Then again, there may be some mechanism in the weapon to keep it from screwing up, but I'm going on what I know. After bringing out the spring, you need to pull out the bolt carrier group and piston. Now, I didn't see if there was a specialized type of cleaning kit for the weapon, but if not, I don't like the field stripping of this weapon one bit. Cleaning the barrel and receiver looks like one of the biggest pains in the world, and I'm not about to take an infinite amount of time to go through a bunch of crap to clean a weapon in the field, especially the receiver and barrel. I'm going to spray in some graphite, and go. That doesn't look overly possible, much less easy, with this weapon.

The magazine needs to be rocked into position in order to lock, like many weapons these days. I personally, perhaps due to being used to it, like the ability to slap the magazine into place. This is probably due to taste, though.

Again, overall, it's an outstanding weapon to fire. My only, totally serious beef is the weight. In the upright position, firing this weapon took a lot of stamina to fire consistently. Holding it up wasn't the easiest task by far. Kneeling wasn't any easier. Now, the prone supported position was excellent. All of my shots when fired upright or kneeling were in quarter-groups, but my prone supported group was in a dime group. This is possibly the only position in which the weight of the weapon serves up some awesome accuracy. When supported by the sandbag, the recoil from the weapon was almost nil. With the weight, that weapon ain't going nowhere.

After testing, I'd say this weapon would make for an excellent urban sniper or standoff rifle. If you're fighting house-to-house, moving slowly to take strategic positions, this would be your weapon. However, if you were moving into room-clearing and fast-paced movement, I'd suggest a lighter weapon.

OOC: Just of curiosity, what made you to choose this classical design instead of a bullpup? If you want to have 1.compact and 2.accurate rifle, that 3.doesn't weight too much, the latter has several advantages compared to this traditional way of positioning the magazine.

"God damn, that may be the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life- with the exceptions of my wife, my late wives, and my daughters, of course. Nothing would please me more than to have my men wielding such a magnificent weapon. I would like to order 10,000,000 of them. $18,000,000,000 will be wired immediately upon confirmation."

--Imperator J.L. I--

OOC: Just of curiosity, what made you to choose this classical design instead of a bullpup? If you want to have 1.compact and 2.accurate rifle, that 3.doesn't weight too much, the latter has several advantages compared to this traditional way of positioning the magazine.

OOC: Try reloading the BP design in the heat of battle. Not fun.

OOC: Try reloading the BP design in the heat of battle. Not fun.

I have never heard about realoading beeing a major problem with FAMAS that the French army uses, Steyr AUG that the Austrians use or with SA-85 of the Brits. And I am pretty sure that they have reloaded that weapon "in the heat of the battle" without any major setbacks.

I have never heard about realoading beeing a major problem with FAMAS that the French army uses, Steyr AUG that the Austrians use or with SA-85 of the Brits. And I am pretty sure that they have reloaded that weapon "in the heat of the battle" without any major setbacks.
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Try firing such a big cartrage with a bullpup design. Your shoulder's gonna fuckin hurt, my friend.

SC,

The weapon does feature a charging handle, in fact, its entire operation is based off the Kalashnikov series of weapons. If you've ever field stripped an AK, you can field strip this (I have personaly, and I can do it under ten seconds). Removing the dust cover and taking out the spring is far from dangerous, provided that you don't have a round in the pipe (which I hope you wouldn't if your stripping the thing...)

Basicly, if your men have ever learned to field strip and clean an AK-47, they can do the same with this thing without having to really learn anything new. It's infinately easier to strip and clean than an M-16 or M-4 (yeah, I've had experience with those too...I still don't like the idea of needing a bullet to take the thing down)

Oh, the barrel is threaded, so you can remove the muzzle brake and attach a suppresor.

All in all, thanks for your input, looks like I've got a bit more clarification in terms of operating the weapon to stick in the writeup. I liked the whole review thing you did, that's something I've really been wanting people to start doing in NS.

OOC:Alright, added that other crap to the description. Again, thanks for the input (and now I have an even longer description :))

Modified pic further. SC, you wanna say that the DR-83s you initialy recieved were flawed because of the hasty rechambering (that could explain the review and all)? If so, consider a newer, refined batch sent.

To: Doomingsland Defense Industries
From: Colonel Vlaskov, Weapons Purchasing department, The Tokera Military
Subject: Purchasing of DR-83 rifles

The Tokera military is very impressed with your great rifle design, and would like to place an order, But first we must ask if production rights for the DR-83
rifles are available. If the production rights are available we would like to purchase them. If no production rights are available we would like to place a order for 14,505,000 DR-83 Tactical Rifles for $1,800 each and for a total of $26,109,000,000 USD. We would again like to congradulate you on your great design.

Thank you
Colonel Vlaskov, Weapons Purchasing department, The Tokera Military

OOC: Ah, I see now. Yeah, I was only making that review with my own experience, which only entails the M16 and M4. And field stripping them takes slightly longer than ten seconds, especially if the pins won't come out! And I never used a round to take it apart. Usually used a pipe from the cleaning kit or a pen.

Consider SFC John-Andy Bowen our "special" soldier...

OOC: Doomingsland, sorry to thread jack, but I've a question for Sniper Country. SC, which part of your military do you fund most...in second place? (I know that you fund your infantry forces as No. 1....and did you receive my TG)?

To: Doomingsland Defense Industries
From: Colonel Vlaskov, Weapons Purchasing department, The Tokera Military
Subject: Purchasing of DR-83 rifles

The Tokera military is very impressed with your great rifle design, and would like to place an order, But first we must ask if production rights for the DR-83
rifles are available. If the production rights are available we would like to purchase them. If no production rights are available we would like to place a order for 14,505,000 DR-83 Tactical Rifles for $1,800 each and for a total of $26,109,000,000 USD. We would again like to congradulate you on your great design.

Thank you
Colonel Vlaskov, Weapons Purchasing department, The Tokera Military
Official Corporate Response

Your order has been confirmed. The rifles will be shipped over the next three years. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

OOC:SC, I can probably come up with a more lightweight version for your army if you're interested.

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1217 Govrnment Way
Balkan City, 85548-6245
Druid Province, Armed Holy Democratic Empire of Asgarnieu

FROM THE OFFICE OF ASGARNIAN SPECIAL FORCES

TO: Doomingsland
FROM: Branch of The Special Forces of Asgarnieu
SUBJECT: Purchase of DR-83 Tactical Rifles for Testing

To whom it may concern:

The Speical Forces of The Armed Holy Democratic Empire of Asgarnieu is interested in buying a small quantity of your DR-83 Tactical Rifles. To be exact, we require 5. The recipt is as follows:

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IMPORT TAX: $249.34 USD
TIP: $4,500.00 USD
SHIPPING & HANDLING: $1,000.00 USD
DELIVER TO:
8569 Armory Road
Building 22
Balkan City, 85472-6245
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TOTAL: $14,749.34

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Respectfully,

General Corie Johnson
CinC of Asgarnian Special Forces

Official Coporate Response

Your order has been processed. The products are being shipped immediately. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

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Our Quartermaster General Brandon Humm has issued a Decree to us to Purchase this weapon...

We hereby request the opportunity to purchase Approximately 500,000 units...

$900,000,000 to be wired upon confirmation of order...As our Military grows we will be placing further orders of your excellent product(s)

The consul of military affairs authorizes me to place an order for 100,000 units of the DR-83. for 180,000,000. and is it possible to order a variant with an integrated suppressor? if so, we wish to order 500 of that model as well.



sincerely,

Victor Palyanko, Chief of Army Operations,
the People's Republic of the Shattered Shield

Official Corporate Response

All orders have been processed and confirmed. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

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Corporate Response to the People's Republic of the Shattered Shield

Currently there are no plans for a varient of the DR-83 with an integral sound suppresor. However, a screw-on suppresor can be attached in place of the muzzle brake should you desire thanks to the barrel's threading.

To: Doomingsland Defense Industries
From: Imperial Ordinance, Trinity Empire of Jagada
Subject: Purchase

We would like to purchase 20,570,000 rifles for a grand total of 37,026,000,000 USDs. The money shall be wired upon confirmation of the order.

To ensure proof of our financial capabilities here is where you may look:
http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?region=The_Consortium_of_Shadows&nation=jagada

Thank you.

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(OOC: You got an order at the bottom of page three.)

To: Doomingsland Defense Industries
From: Imperial Ordinance, Trinity Empire of Jagada
Subject: Purchase

We would like to purchase 20,570,000 rifles for a grand total of 37,026,000,000 USDs. The money shall be wired upon confirmation of the order.

To ensure proof of our financial capabilities here is where you may look:
http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?region=The_Consortium_of_Shadows&nation=jagada

Thank you.
Official Corprorate Response

Your order has been confirmed. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

From: Allied Union Foreign Weapon Office
To: Doomingsland Defense Industries

The Allied Union of Velkya, always a firm believer in the effectiveness of infantry, would like to purchase 10 DR-83s for evaluation purposes in it's search to find a replacement for it's aging LAR-10 carbine family. Should the rifle prove satisfactory, we will place a larger order.

($18,000)

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From: Allied Union Foreign Weapon Office
To: Doomingsland Defense Industries

The Allied Union of Velkya, always a firm believer in the effectiveness of infantry, would like to purchase 10 DR-83s for evaluation purposes in it's search to find a replacement for it's aging LAR-10 carbine family. Should the rifle prove satisfactory, we will place a larger order.

($18,000)

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Official Corporate Response

Your order has been processed. We hope you find the DR-83 to be a satistfactory replacement to your LAR-10 carbine. We look forward to doing further buisiness. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

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The Khailfah al Muslimeen Arm Forces request to buy the production rights for the DR-83. Just tell us what the price is for buying production rights.

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Defense Minister-Vizier Süleyman al Uthmān bin Aziz (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/Ottoman01/Omar_Sharif.jpg)

Official Corporate Response

Because the Khailfah al Muslimeen has been a dedicated customer over the years, Doomingsland Defense Industries is pleased to provide her armed forces with unlimited production rights for a meager 150 million USD. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

Official Corporate Response

Because the Khailfah al Muslimeen has been a dedicated customer over the years, Doomingsland Defense Industries is pleased to provide her armed forces with unlimited production rights for a meager 150 million USD. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

150 million USD, has been wire to your bank accounts, pleasure dealing with your nation.

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Defense Minister-Vizier Süleyman al Uthmān bin Aziz

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Could you make a single shot carbine variation for my police and to serve as a backup weapon for my pilots?

The Pijoon Military Force would like to request the purchase of 300,000 rifles for the cost of $540,000,000.

Thank you,

Pijoon Defence Ministry

Could you make a single shot carbine variation for my police and to serve as a backup weapon for my pilots?
Official Corporate Response

A single shot carbine varient would require far too many modifications to the current weapon system to make an effective solution. However, if it is a backup weapon aircrew and a weapon for police, Doomingsland Defense Industries does manufacture a number of weapons that your police and air units may be interested in for those purposes. We recomend you look at our DAC-91 and DAC-91K sub machineguns.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=439575

Official Corporate Response to Pijoon

Your order has been processed and confirmed. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

OOC: Smart; You designed a rifle that no one else has, and that uses a round that only your nation produces. The money you can make off of something like that. . . Although I say, for sale purposes, wouldn't it be more reasonable to outfit the cartridge with, so say, the NATO 5.56mm, or Ex-Soviet 7.62mm? Since these are standard rounds throughout the world, other nations and militaries wouldn't have to rely upon Doomingland for ammunition for such a superb weapon. Think of it: a group of soldiers is pinned down on the frontlines of a war using the DR-83, and they run out of ammo. The only other place to get that specific 6.7mm round is from you. In other words, those soldiers will probably die.

Just a suggestion, but other than that, damn good work. Since my own nation has kind of been forced to sea and is pitched in a battle for its very survival right now, I can't make any purchases, but other than that, very nice job.

OOC: Smart; You designed a rifle that no one else has, and that uses a round that only your nation produces. The money you can make off of something like that. . . Although I say, for sale purposes, wouldn't it be more reasonable to outfit the cartridge with, so say, the NATO 5.56mm, or Ex-Soviet 7.62mm? Since these are standard rounds throughout the world, other nations and militaries wouldn't have to rely upon Doomingland for ammunition for such a superb weapon. Think of it: a group of soldiers is pinned down on the frontlines of a war using the DR-83, and they run out of ammo. The only other place to get that specific 6.7mm round is from you. In other words, those soldiers will probably die.

Just a suggestion, but other than that, damn good work. Since my own nation has kind of been forced to sea and is pitched in a battle for its very survival right now, I can't make any purchases, but other than that, very nice job.
OOC:Yeah, OBVIOUSLY I designed a rifle no one else has, otherwise there'd be no point in designing it. And no, chambering it for those two rounds would degrade performance tremendously. And think of it this way: A group of soldiers is pinned down on the frontlines of a war using the AK-47 and they run out of ammo. The guys they're fighting are using DR-83s. No 7.62mm rounds for them to pick up, so they're gonna die. This scenario really works both ways, so it's a moot point.

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Is this round useable in a pistol? Sort of like a stupidly powerful desert-eagle type weapon? The kind that has to fired two handed?

Is this round useable in a pistol? Sort of like a stupidly powerful desert-eagle type weapon? The kind that has to fired two handed?
Official Corporate Response

If you mean the 6.7x53mm, then NO. You would most likely shatter all of the bones in your hand trying to fire such a round out of a handgun, even with both hands (although most handguns ARE fired with two hands in order to achieve the greatest possible accuracy in the first place)

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Sneak peek: DDI DR-83

Lately, we've been hearing lots of rumours about the BPA seeking to purchase the Doomingsland Defence Industries-manufactured DR-83 assault rifle. Anonymous sources in the military have indeed confirmed that the rifle is currently being evaluated by BPA special forces.

The DR-83 has been praised as an high-quality, deadly and extremely accurate rifle by the operators.
Like the BPA's current standard assault rifle, the PG113, the DR-83 shares many common features from the old Kalashnikov rifles, making the transition between the rifle types easy for the user.
One of the main concerns has been the weight. Weighing five kilograms empty, the DR-83 is one of the heaviest assault rifles in service. It's a bit ironic that the DDI specifically markets the rifle as "lightweight".
Another concern is the caliber. The DR-83 has been reportedly tested with the 6.7x53mm Imperial from DDI, and the BPA standard 6.5x40 SARA. While the SARA itself is a notable improvement from the old 7.62x39, tests have shown the Doomingslandian round to be superior to the SARA, especially in penetrating armoured targets. It remains to be seen which caliber will be adopted, if the rifle itself passes the evaluations.

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To: Doomingsland Defense Industries
From: Colonel Valeev, Material Administration, Brutaltopian People's Army
Subject: Acquisition of DR-83 rifles

We have indeed found the DR-83 to perform well during range and operational testing, and it has been well received by the troops.

Now, we would be willing to place an order for 90,000 DR-83 rifles, chambered in the 6.7x53mm Imperial, PROVIDED that we are permitted production rights for the ammunition for domestic use.

Ad maiorem gloriam,
Colonel Valeev, Material Administration, Brutaltopian People's Army
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To: Doomingsland Defense Industries

The Pijoon Military Force would like to make a re-request of the purchase of 300,000 rifles for the cost of $540,000,000.

Thank you,

Pijoon Defence Ministry

Official Corporate Response

All orders have been confirmed. DDI is now offering free domestic ammunition production rights with all orders greater than 10,000 rifles, take advantage of this offer now!

modified pic a whole lot (courtesy of USSNA)

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Official Statement, Land Force Administrative Command, Pacitalian Defence Forces
Democratic Capitalist Republic of Pacitalia

To: Doomingsland Defence Industries

From: Col. Pier Giuseppe Margoli
LFAC Weapons Testing Lead Commander
Pacitalian Armed Forces (PDF-AF)


6 February, 2006
To whom it may concern:

The Land Force Administrative Command's Weapons Testing Centre is interested in purchasing twenty-four (24) standard models of your new DR-83 tactical rifle for the purpose of general and practice testing of this weapon. Upon review of the literature provided by your company we believe your new rifle may be a pertinent solution for our upcoming need to replace the Beretta tactical rifles that our 219th and 220th "Barnstormer" Squads have been using in a secondary mode since 1993.

If the tests of the DR-83 21C-TR emerge successful we may provide these two squads with this rifle as their primary tactical weapon. We have already wired $10,000 to your account and will wire the remaining $33,200 when we receive the shipment of rifles. We look forward to testing and reviewing your fine weaponry as it appears to be a contender to replace the two squads' outdated tactical machinery.


Sincera in domina bene,

Col. Pier Giuseppe Margoli
Colonel, First class; LFAC Weapons Testing Lead Commander
Pacitalian Armed Forces (PDF-AF)

Official Corporate Response

Colonel,

Your order for twenty DR-83 rifles has been processed and confirmed. We are well aware of Pacitalia's reputation for superb special operations forces, and are honored to fill this order. We are certain that you shall find this rifle satisfactory. We look forward to doing buisiness in the future.

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Official Statement, Land Force Administrative Command, Pacitalian Defence Forces
Democratic Capitalist Republic of Pacitalia

To: Doomingsland Defence Industries

From: Col. Pier Giuseppe Margoli
LFAC Weapons Testing Lead Commander
Pacitalian Armed Forces (PDF-AF)

Re: Completion of testing (DR-83)


8 February, 2006To whom it may concern:

It is my pleasure to inform you the Land Force Administrative Command (LFAC) has completed its nominal testing procedure on the DR-83 tactical rifle. We were, overall, pleased with the weapon's performance but have a few issues that may or may not be endemic to the products we were sent.

We found that the tritium sights did not perform as well as had been promoted or that we had hoped. However, we note that may have been simply the scenarios with which the riflery was tested in. For a substantial majority of the testing period, the sights worked well and were effective in 92 shots of 100, much higher than the Beretta currently being used, which only effectively downs the target 81 of 100 times.

We also were disappointed to find the worst grouping of five shots was not just over two inches out on perfect aim, as the literature suggests, but much closer to five inches. However, the testing crew found your measurements for the best group of shots to be almost exact to one hundredth of a millimetre. We are concerned about the reliability of the rifle for less experienced soldiers especially if their inexperience with proper aim techniques would cause them to miss a target and thus endanger themselves or their fellow soldiers.

The gas-power piston on two of the rifles failed on normal shooting tests and had to be manually reset through a rifle-strip, which served as an encumbrance and, obviously, would serve as an endangerment to troops if the same scenario were to occur in a real mission. Although rifle-stripping was facilitative, resetting the gas-power piston after a jam or a misfire was simply too difficult to be completed in a short period of time (for example, ten seconds).

Participant soldiers were highly pleased with the way the magazine was loaded, saying it was quite facilitative and simple. However, three participants noted minor cracking, in the bakelite, on the spine of the magazine cache. The construction of the weapon, overall, however, was deemed very satisfactory by the participants, who mostly noted the steel-forge construction helped solidify the weapon in ways other materials would not have done.

Finally, testing participants widely complained that the magazine capacity could serve to be higher, with the most requests for a 30-round magazine. They felt the rate of fire was too high to justify such a low round component, especially on such a premier weapon with which they were provided for the test. Overall, their impression of the weapon was, largely, highly positive.

The weapons testing participants submitted their reports, and that, combined with the information and research gained from the testing leaders' investigations, have led to our assignment of a final grade of 91% of the rifle, or an A, meaning that we are highly satisfied with the weapon and feel any of the problems we experienced may have been simply a result of the weapons we were sent and not of the overall quality of the mass production.

That said, it is my pleasure to notify you that we will now purchase 22,100 of these rifles for use in, at the very least, our 219th and 220th Pacitalian Armed Forces (PAF) Barnstormer hazardous scenario management squads as their primary tactical weapon, and thus a replacement for the aging Beretta MAC-19 carbine tacticals. We will gladly wire the $39,780,000 in funds required to purchase this amount of riflery to your account once you confirm our order.

Congratulations on producing such a brilliant piece of machinery.


Sincera in domina bene,

Col. Pier Giuseppe Margoli
First class colonel; LFAC Weapons Testing Lead Commander
Pacitalian Armed Forces (PDF-AF)

Official Coporate Response

While we are pleased to confirmed your order, your findings regarding certain failures with the rifles are none the less disturbing. Our engineers suggest that these malfunctions may be due to a comprimisation while the products were being shipped.

As for your concerns with the magazine, if you wish DDI to provide a more durable steel magazine for your use, that would be easily arranged.

As for your concerns with accuracy, this is most likely the result of poor marksmanship on the part of your test team. In addition, we would like to note that our own accuracy results were under normal conditions firing from the prone position. It really depends on the discipline of the shooter. Your test results with the iron sights may also have been the result of poor sighting-in of that particular component on our part, or, possibly, your men may have adjusted them improperly.

We would also like to note that, in order for the gas piston to have malfunctioned in such a way as you have said, you would need to purposely tamper with the weapon simply from the way the weapon is constructed (OOC:If you've ever field stripped an AK, you'd know what I'm talking about). In order for such a malfunction to occur, one would have to had assembled the weapon in an improper manner. As such, our engineers suggest that your test team failed to properly reassemble the rifles after field stripping, or, worse yet, the manufacturer failed to properly assemble those two examples (however highly unlikely).

Once again, we are pleased to do buininess with you. If any of these problems persist, we strongly urge you to contact Customer Service, although we highly doubt you will experience such problems any longer.

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Official Imperial Message of the Empire of Kravania

To: Doomingsland Defense Industries

The Empire of Kravania would like to purchase the following:

40 million DR-83 Tactical Assault Rifles

The total price comes to:

72 billion USD

The Empire asks that you ship our purchased weapons to the port of Dubrovnik, on the Empire's south western coast.

Money will be wired to the Bank of Doomingsland Defense Industries upon confirmation of our order.

From: Imperial Ministry of Defence

Official Corporate Response

Your order has been processed and confirmed. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

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Doom, I have re-edited the post to make it address your company.

Also, I like your rifle, it's still based on RL technology, but with PMT features and style. I dislike FT stuff, for it is all made up and can get n00bish, unless RPed by a really good player.

Does your main Storefront, if you have one, have similar weapons that are late MT/PMT?

Kravania came out of a war we lost, resulting in a change of regime. The new Imperial regime seeks to rebuild the military and gain a superpower status for Kravania, hence it's rearming.

Over the next few days, I'll be spending as much IC money as I can on getting my new Imperial Armed Forces up to scratch.

I hope your other Storfronts can help me on that.

Official Imperial Message of the Empire of Kravania

To: Doomingsland Defense Industries

72 billion USD have been wired to the bank account of Doomingsland Defense Industries

From: Imperial Ministry of Defence

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Doom, I have re-edited the post to make it address your company.

Also, I like your rifle, it's still based on RL technology, but with PMT features and style. I dislike FT stuff, for it is all made up and can get n00bish, unless RPed by a really good player.

Does your main Storefront, if you have one, have similar weapons that are late MT/PMT?

Kravania came out of a war we lost, resulting in a change of regime. The new Imperial regime seeks to rebuild the military and gain a superpower status for Kravania, hence it's rearming.

Over the next few days, I'll be spending as much IC money as I can on getting my new Imperial Armed Forces up to scratch.

I hope your other Storfronts can help me on that.
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I don't have an actual storefront, but TG me about anything your interested in, I can supply you with just about anything. Also, if you have MSN or AIM, TG me that stuff and we can get everything done uber quick.

[OOC: I don't know if it's been talked about here before and I don't feel like reading the whole thread - but do you offer production rights?]

[OOC: I don't know if it's been talked about here before and I don't feel like reading the whole thread - but do you offer production rights?]
OOC:5 billion and they're your's.

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To: Doomingsland Defense Industries
From: McKagan Imperial Defense Department

Over the past decade or so McKagan has been in a great many engagements. The majority of the time we quickly gain air superiority and use that to cripple enemy forces before even sending ground forces in. This tactic has eventually caused a massive overfunding of the Air Force while the Army has suffered. We're fixing that before we pay for it. We'd like the production rights to the new DR-83 Tactical Rifle.

To: Doomingsland

From: Makai Corporation

Re: Purchase of 200,000 rifles

Text:

Makai Corporation would like to purchase 200,000 of these extraordinary weapons.

Signed,
Makai Ak'Tong, CEO of Makai Corp.

Official Corporate Response

Your order has been processed and confirmed. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

To: Doomingsland

From: Makai Corporation

Re: Purchase of 200,000 rifles

Text:

Makai Corporation would like to purchase 200,000 of these extraordinary weapons.

Signed,
Makai Ak'Tong, CEO of Makai Corp.
Official Corporate Response

Your order has been processed and confirmed. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

Makai would also be interested in your other selection, if you have more.

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OOC, what program did you use to create that masterpiece eh?

OOC, what program did you use to create that masterpiece eh?
OOC:USSNA and MassPwnage did the pic, I think they used Painshop Pro, not totally sure, though.

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The Peoples Freedom wishes to buy production rights. Otherwise, we would like to purchase 20 milllion of these rifles.

Official Corporate Response

Production rights for the DR-83 rifle shall cost a mere 500 million USD.

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OOC: Any more info on this?

OOC: Any more info on this?
OOC:Well, it's gonna be a semi-automatic 41mm weapon set up in a bullpup configuration, mounts to the rifle kinda like the OICW mounts the launcher on that.

Following great service in the Confederate Guard and Marine Corps, the Spizanian Government wishes to purchase production rights to the DR-83 Rifle, the money, regardless of the price will be wired on confirmation

Following great service in the Confederate Guard and Marine Corps, the Spizanian Government wishes to purchase production rights to the DR-83 Rifle, the money, regardless of the price will be wired on confirmation
Official Corporate Response

As the Spizanian Government has proven itself a loyal customer, production rights shall be provided for only 300 million USD.

Thank you.

*money wired*

OOC: Looks like a possible conbatant with my G7 Standard Issue Rifle.

Meh, I'll just make a G8; same as the G7 just uses 6.8 SPC. Nice rifle over all though.

OOC: Looks like a possible conbatant with my G7 Standard Issue Rifle.

Meh, I'll just make a G8; same as the G7 just uses 6.8 SPC. Nice rifle over all though.
OOC:Lol, 6.8mm SPC doesn't perform nearly as well as my round in terms of penetration power, range, and accuracy (well, maybe in accuracy, but not in the other two.)

Would you happen to have a link to your G7? I'm interested in seeing it.

OOC:Lol, 6.8mm SPC doesn't perform nearly as well as my round in terms of penetration power, range, and accuracy (well, maybe in accuracy, but not in the other two.)

Would you happen to have a link to your G7? I'm interested in seeing it.OOC: I use 6.8 x 43 mm caseless

You use a Gas-Operated loading mechanism. Which wastes a lot of the expanding gasses as does when the bolt opens up letting out the case it also lets out expanding gasses. Mine has the Power, & Range of 7.62 but the accuracy of 6.8; because none of the expanding gasses are put to waste.

Here's I'll post it in a few I've gotta find it and host it. I have a lot of custom made gun pics on my PC. I should sell some of these designs. =P

Doomingsland: my appolgies for cluttering up your thread.

Valens Res Publica: if it is 6.8mm caseless then call it that, don't reffer to it as 6.8mm SPC and don't just use the RL round's dimensions and call it caseless, it would be ebtter received if you put a bit more though into it, by all means use the round's performance stats but a caseless version will be somewhat different. Sources on caseless round design are thin on the ground (limited to either the G-11 work or the 5.5mm UPC round from Voere ) but it is a chance to do somethign different.
You can already get rounds that have more power range and accuracy than 7.62mm NATO and they achive all that from a converted M16.

I'm sorry if i appear to be getting on your case but you do have a very nice rifle design that i feel deserves a bit more of a well thought out ammo design and choice.

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TO: Doomingsland Defense Industries
FROM: Grand General Adolph McKnight

Good sirs, I will would like to place a large order for the Dominion Armed Forces. We would like 3,000,000 DR-83 tactical rifles. The total of this order will be $5,400,000,000. Money will be wired upon confirmation.

To: Doomingsland Defense Industries
From: Defense Minister Joseph Ingolia
Subject: Purchase

The dire need of a new rifle for the Willink Marines Corps, Army, and For personal defence for air pilots has led us to this fine rifle. At thus, we wish to purchase production rights for an undisclosed amount of rifles, for the price of 500 million USD.

Joseph Ingolia

Official Corporate Response

All orders confirmed.

****Money Wired****

TO: Doomingsland Defense Industries
FROM: Grand General Adolph McKnight

I would like to place another order for these rifles.

6,000,000 DR-83 tactical rifles = $10,800,000,000

Money Wired****

Official Corporate Response

Order confirmed.

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OOC: Could you supply the Marksmen rifle in 7.62mm NATO?

OOC: Could you supply the Marksmen rifle in 7.62mm NATO?
OOC:I could, but honestly you'd be better off with me supplying it in regular ole' 6.7mm if you don't want 7.8mm, since it outperforms 7.62mm in both range, accuracy, and penetration.

And both new variants now have pics :)

The Confederate States of Spizania would like to order five hundred thousand DRS-83 Designated Marksman Rifles for its Marine/Guard units to suplement our earlier purchase of the standard rifle for these units. We would ask that they be rechambered in the regular 6.7mm Imperial Round used in the standard rifle to ease supply difficulties.

OOC: I dont suppose i could commision you to make a 7.62x51mm cartridge that gave better performance than the NATO round while still being easily adaptable into existing weapons could I?

OOC:I don't think I'd be able to, really...it's a fifty year-old round, I don't think you can really get much more out of it.

IC:

Official Corporate Response

Order confirmed.

OOC: I think there are a few imporved 7.62mm rounds out there and IIRC the Us army/mariens do still do some research of imporving it now and then, of course when you use 7.62mm NATO you don't have to use M80 ball, there are an infinate number of different loadings for it.

OOC: I think there are a few imporved 7.62mm rounds out there and IIRC the Us army/mariens do still do some research of imporving it now and then, of course when you use 7.62mm NATO you don't have to use M80 ball, there are an infinate number of different loadings for it.
OOC:Of course there's a crapload of different improved loads, but the same is true of all rounds.

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The Sovereign Republic of Willink wishes to purchase 8 million DR-83-II rifles to replace the M16A4 in Willinkian small arm service. The price comes to alot.

Official Corporate Response

Order confirmed. 30% of the final cost has been deducted in accordance to prior arrangements.

The Lorrian Territorial Army is seeking to upgrade it's standard battle rifle, which is currently the M-16/A1. We are also interested in the possibility of replacing our current squad automatic with something much lighter and more versatile than our current Tilsitsinian MG-50 GPMG. With that said, we would like to purchase the following for service evaluation:

10 DR-83-II (total $18,000)
5 DMG-83 SAW (total $9750)
3 DRS-83 DMR (total $7500)

A total of $32,250 will be wired upon confirmation of order.

Official Corporate Response

Your order has been processed and confirmed, the weapons are being shipped immediately. Fifty-thousand rounds of ammunition are being included at no cost.

We would like to buy 12 million DR-83-II assault rifles after reviewing it. It will be used as our mainstay assault rifle for our army. The total cost of $14,400,000,000 will be paid immediately to your account.

Official Corporate Response

Your order has been processed and confirmed. Thank you for choosing DDI for your firearms needs.

We would like to purchase approximately 10 Million pieces of each variant, and also the DPRs for each one and the DPRs for the ammunition. The cost is, well, alot.

The cost comes to, well, alot.

-Reich Foreign Ministry-

Official Corporate Response

Order has been processed and confirmed.

The morvonian goverment is so impressed with this rifle, we would like to buy the production rights to all of these weapons, name a resonable price and we will pay it.


(OOC: those are really good looking rifles, and i need somthing to replace my old AK series weapons ;))

Official Corporate Response

The total price comes to a mere twenty-five billion Universal Standard Dollars. Domestic production rights will be granted upon transfering of funds.

the funds are on there way as we speak, thank you.

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kal In'va'aiydah Imperi'ya i-Tenurias
Communique of the Tenurian Empire

The High Command has expressed an interest in purchasing domestic production rights to the DR-83 tactical rifle, with which They plan to equip the Imperial Tenurian Defence Forces. As a testing prerequisite, the High Command has seen fit to order ten (10) examples of each weapon. The total price of approximately $62,750 (discounting tariffs and shipping costs) will be wired upon confirmation.

Office of the High Command
Tengrad, Tenuria, 0719-1922
Inbox 0089

Official Corporate Response

Your order has been processed and confirmed. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

By order of the Sacred Emperor, in recognition both of Doomingsland's superiority in weapon design and our brotherhood as nations, I am authorized to request an order of forty thousand DR-83-II tactical rifles. The total cost comes to 72 million USD; the money will be wired immediately upon confirmation of our order. A pleasure doing business with you.

Imperator Jakran Vuell

Official Corporate Transmission

Your order has been processed and confirmed. Due to the Imperial Government's status as a prefered customer, ten million USD has been deducted from the total cost.

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Official State Directive......

The United Military State of Xharn
The Ministry of Foreign Relations

The United Military State of Xharn We would like to purchase 20,570,000 rifles for a grand total of 37,026,000,000 USDs. The Xharnian National Army sees great potential in this weapon and would like to use them to replace our outdated M-16A2 rifles. We shall wire the money to Doomingsland Defense Industries upon confirmation of our order.







Signed,

Grand Ambassador Gerald Nomato
Head of Foreign Relations, Grand Ambassador

[OOC: Xharn, erm don't you think that's a bit excessive? The most countries can deploy within peacetime duty is somewhere between 0% and 2% of the populace. 5% is when there is a draft at the max. Any more would result in big economic damage, and even at five percent, the economic damage can still be seen.....]

OOC: I plan on arming my Military Police with some of these weapons and I also plan to stock pile them for use of some of my other armed forces branches like the Death Korps Legions, The Grand National Navy and the Grand National Air Command. I am basically updating my outdated shooting irons.

OOC:SEA, most armies tend to have more rifles then they do personel...

IC:

Official Corporate Response

Your order has been processed and confirmed. The weapons shall commence shipment within the day with the order slated to be filled within three (NS) months. Due to the size of this order, a total of six million USD has been deducted from the total cost. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries

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OOC: two questions, i saw a 50.cal rifle in the draftroom, when will you be adding that for sale, and two do i have to pay for the upgraded weapons i see in the new pic?

OOC: two questions, i saw a 50.cal rifle in the draftroom, when will you be adding that for sale, and two do i have to pay for the upgraded weapons i see in the new pic?

OOC:You can get conversion kits to upgrade your's to the new one for like $200 a pop (I can give you prod rights for the conversion kits for like 15 million, so that might be the way to go there). That sniper rifle isn't a .50 cal (although looking at the pic it's understandable to mistake it for one...) but it should go on sale...well, hopefully before Christmas. It looks done but I still have a little bit more to do...

OOC: Ok, a couple questions before I place my order. First off, in your picture, what is the 4th weapon down? I assume that the 1st and 2nd pictures are DR-83/DR-83-II Tactical Rifle respectivly. The 3rd one is the Designated Marksman Rifle and the 5th is the SAW, but what is that foruth one? Also, can you modify the weapons to fire a different caliber round? Specifically a 6.32mm caseless round? And what about special paint jobs, like camo, ect Thanks in advance for answering.

OOC: Is this weapon called "Tactical" instead of "Assault" rifle just to stand out, or is there actually some difference between them? (Or is there really a class of weapons called Strategical Rifles?)

Morvonia has purshased the upgrade for the sum of 15 million, we would also like to request a view of some models of our own to be sent to you, if you would like to see them that is?

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Barbarosea: First one is actualy a lengthened version of the DR-83-II with a 20" barrel instead of the standard 18". That fourth one is a 7.8x63mm version of the DR-83-II in use with my special forces and some Imperial Guard units. This weapon isn't really something you'd want to use with a caseless round. I mean, yeah, probably could modify it, but the way the action works you arent going to be able to make use of the benefits of caseless ammunition (like the fact you don't have to eject a shell, with this the ejection port is going to go back even with caseless). You're definately better off with the round it comes with. As for paint jobs, I assume you mean on the pic itself? Well, I can't help you there, seeing as I didn't make the pic (that was all MassPwnage's skillz).

But if you mean you want the rifles I ship you given a camo finish, that could easily be arranged.

Madnestan: I sorta gave it the designation "tactical rifle" to designate it as a sort of in between with assault rifles and battle rifles. The round it fires is a bit bigger than what you would normally fire from an assault rifle (i.e., 5.56x45mm, 6.5x39mm, 5.45x39mm) but still smaller than a battle rifle cartridge (7.62x51mm, 7.62x54mmR).

IC:

Official Corporate Response

Your order has been processed and confirmed. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries. Doomingsland Defense Industries would also be quite pleased to review and evaluate your designs.

Thank you the designs as follows...


AR-9sd series (http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5140/ar9sdwr1.png)

SR-9 sniper rifles /w x10 scope (http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6220/srrifloesko2.png)

we would also like permission to sell these rifle above as we please (OOC:giving you credit of course, also could you write me some stats for the rifles? i am no expert.)

OOC:OK, I see a few problems...

Firstly, you have a 7.8mm magazine instead of the 6.7mm one on your carbines, you might wanna fix that. A suppressor on an LMG is probably a bad idea, too...you'll wreck the thing with all the rapid fire going on. Also, having the silencer be the whole barrel isn't gonna work...you're gonna need something to actualy provide spin for the round, so you have use a short barrel in there too (the MP-5SD5 actualy does have a very shortened barrel in addition to the integral suppressor)

Also, a subsonic 6.7mm round is NOT going to be more accurate than the full speed one.

I like the whole concept, in fact I myself have a variant of the DR-83 that's just like that (integral suppressor, subsonic 6.7mm rounds).

I can't really give you permission to sell it, since it's pretty much the same rifle only with an integral suppressor (I was going to market the one I made at some point anyways) but it's your right to use them within your own army as you please, just make sure you give MassPwnage credit for the pic. I don't have time to stat your rifle this week, but I'll try to get to it at some point.

tOOC: thank you very much dooms for the pointers. an i will be sure to credit mass, also what about my sniper variants? never mind about the stats i will do them myself, if not to get some experiance at it. thanks again


also about the LMG supresser, i have seen canadian and us LMGs with supressers on them, and if anything making it integeral gives it the advantage of being heavier and sturdier than its skrew on counterpart, though i agree fully with spin. For the spin problem, grooves are built in the beginning section of the silencer, to allow a spin, before exiting the barrel. would that make sense.


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OOC: Ok, last OOC comment before I order. 1) Hrm, well, I'll probably use my standard cased round then, but for SOF, I think I'll need them modded to use caseless, even if it provides no benefit. Caseless = less evidence left behind. 2) I meant IC camo, no, not the pic :D. Will order soon.

OOC: Ok, last OOC comment before I order. 1) Hrm, well, I'll probably use my standard cased round then, but for SOF, I think I'll need them modded to use caseless, even if it provides no benefit. Caseless = less evidence left behind. 2) I meant IC camo, no, not the pic :D. Will order soon.
OOC:Sure, that can all be arranged.

TO: Head of Sales, Doomingsland Defense Industries
FROM: John P. Hanrilt, Barbarosean IDF

The Barbarosean Internal Defense Force (BIDF) has evaluated the DR-83 and has deemed it a superb carbine. We would like to place an order for 2,112 DR-83 II's, 2,112 DMG-83's, and 2,112 DRS-83's. An amount of USD$13,200,000 has been wired to your account. Thank you for a superb design.

With Reguards,
John P. Hanrilt
Barbarosean IDF
The Neverending Dictatorial Lands of Barbarosea

How much for production rights to all makes and models?

Official Corporate Transmission to John P. Hanrilt, Barbarosean IDF

Your order has been processed and confirmed. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

Official Corporate Transmission to the Horde of Doom

Production rights for all models will come to a total of $500 million USD. This will also include production rights for both the 6.7x53mm Imperial cartridge and 7.8x63mm cartridge.

We'll take it then.

To: Head of Sales, Doomingsland Defense Industries
From: Head of Procurement, New Zangaro Defense Minsitry

Sir,

If New Zangaro were to purchase domestic production rights for the weapon, would DDI object to the development of a submachinegun variant of the DR-83 by the New Zangaro MoD?

Official Corporate Transmission to the Horde of Doom

Your order has been processed and confirmed. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

Official Corporate Transmission to New Zangaro Defense Ministry

Production rights for the DR-83-II are available for $250 million USD; production rights for the entire family as advertised are available for $500 million USD.

In response to your querrie regarding a sub machinegun version of the DR-83, we are pleased to inform you that Doomingsland Defense Industries already produces a sub machinegun based heavily on the DR-83, featuring near-identical operation and partialy compatable parts. We highly recomend you consider the DAC-97-II for adoption.

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481621

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You wouldn't be interested in designing a rifle for Griffincrest would you?

The United Kingdom of Eurasia would like to purchase production rights for the entire family of rifles. Five hundred million USD have been wired in advance.

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OOC:Blackhelm, I really don't have time for designing any new weapons at the moment...

bump for sales...

OOC: How come your using a long stroke gas system?

we are impressed with your weapon and would like to buy 500 rifles
we will transfer 900,000 to your account as soon as possible

Olmedreca would like to buy production rights of entire family of DR-83 rifles, also we would like to buy production rights of DAC-97 Submachine Gun, $750 million USD have been wired in advance.

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All orders have been processed and confirmed. Thank you for choosing Doomingsland Defense Industries.

Aurum Domus Department of Defense

The Aurum Domus Armed Forces are interested in rearming their forces with this entirely new weapons system and other weapons from your company such as the carbine version of this rifle. Unfortunately we cannot replace our current weapon system (composed of the AK-103 and its variants) for a minimum of 15 years. We also would like to inquire about whether your company would like to develop a bolt action sniper rifle for us as this is the only weapon system in need of an update for us with sufficent budget room. Thank you in advance.

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Official Corporate Transmission

Your interest in the DR-83 family of weapons has been noted. Doomingsland Defense Industries is pleased to inform the Aurum Dormus Defense Department that a superb bolt-action sniper rifle, the DRS-84, which has already displayed outstanding results in combat over the past seven years in the Imperial Army, will be released to the international market by our subsidary, Elysium Armory, in the coming weeks. While we cannot provide a precise date of release, rest knowing that it will be sometime within four weeks. We look forward to doing further business with you.

Thats great, we'll be first in line to buy it. We might even try to convince the High General to buy this new weapon system a few years early.

Aurum Domus Department of Defense

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Official State Directive......

The Totalitarian Military State of Xharn
The Ministry of Foreign Relations

The Totalitarian Military State of Xharn is pleased with the DR-83 tactical rifle. It has proven effective and reliable in several conflicts that we have fought in, including against both the cursed Novan invaders and several smaller nations we have long since crushed under the treads of our tanks.

The National High Command of Xharn would like to formally buy production rights of this marvelous weapon to keep a steady supply to our brave soldiers at home and overseas fighting off the enemies of our Fatherland…







Signed,

Grand Ambassador Gerald Nomato
Head of Foreign Relations, Grand Ambassador

M.A.C Heavy Industries | Defense

We wish to purchase :

- 75.000.000x - DR-83 CTR

Funds shall be wired upon confirmation of order.

For any inquiries please contact us:

Link To Storefront: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=561695&highlight=heavy+industries

M.A.C Direct Line: 21-456-3450

M.A.C@DefenseNet.Agle

Thank you,

M.A.C Heavy Industries Defense Management.

The Scandinvan Imperial Army wishes to buy 650,000,000 DR-83 21st Century Tactical Rifles for use by our forces and for storage in the national armories in the event of a conflict.

The total cost should out to 1,040,000,000,000 standard dollars.

As well, due to the sheer size of the order we would also like to buy rights to produce the rounds for the DR-83 21st Century Tactical Rifle, the 6.7x53mm Imperial cartridge, and also would like your company to establish parts production factories in the Scandinvan Empire to supply the Imperial Army with the replacement parts its needs. We are willing to pay rather substantial sums of money for said rights and factories.