NationStates Jolt Archive

Since the OOC in the main thread is piling up, I made this to start cutting it down. If your ooc post in the main thread is no longer extremely pertinant, coudja either repost it here or delete it?

Let's keep 'er cleen and make 'er one to remember!

Your a Smart person NE. Yay for you.

Coventiforce (Offensive Fleets of the Sucellan Navy)


Fleet 1 (Heavy Assault):
1 Executor-class Super Star Destroyer
6 Imperator II-class Star Destroyers
2 Dominator-class Interdictor Cruisers
5 Victory I-class Cruisers
8 Carrack-class Cruisers
10 Lancer-class Frigates
12 VT-49 Decimator Assault Ships

Fleet 2 (Heavy Assault/FTLi Disruption):
5 Imperator II-class Star Destroyers
5 Dominator-class Interdictor Cruisers
3 Victory I-class Cruisers
5 Carrack-class Cruisers
7 Lancer-class Frigates
7 VT-49 Decimator Assault Ships

Fleet 3 (Medium Assault):
3 Imperator II-class Star Destroyers
2 Victory I-class Cruisers
5 Carrack-class Cruisers
7 Lancer-class Frigates
7 VT-49 Decimator Assault Ships

Fleet 4 (Light Assault):
2 Imperator II-class Star Destroyers
2 Victory I-class Cruisers
4 Carrack-class Cruisers
5 Lancer-class Frigates
5 VT-49 Decimator Assault Ships

Fleet 5 (Light Assault):
2 Imperator II-class Star Destroyers
1 Victory I-class Cruiser
5 Carrack-class Cruisers
7 Lancer-class Frigates
10 VT-49 Decimator Assault Ships


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Suceloforce (Defensive Fleets of the Sucellan Navy):


Fleet 1:
1 Eclipse-class Super Star Destroyer
10 Imperator II-class Star Destroyers
4 Dominator-class Interdictor Cruisers
5 Victory II-class Cruisers
10 Carrack-class Cruisers
10 Lancer-class Frigates
10 VT-49 Decimator Assault Ships

Fleet 2:
6 Imperator II-class Star Destroyers
2 Dominator-class Interdictor Cruisers
4 Victory II-class Cruisers
6 Carrack-class Cruisers
5 Lancer-class Frigates
4 VT-49 Decimator Assault Ships

Fleet 3:
5 Imperator II-class Star Destroyers
2 Dominator-class Interdictor Cruisers
4 Victory II-class Cruisers
5 Carrack-class Cruisers
5 Lancer-class Frigates
3 VT-49 Decimator Assault Ships

Fleet 4:
5 Imperator II-class Star Destroyers
1 Dominator-class Interdictor Cruisers
3 Victory II-class Cruisers
4 Carrack-class Cruisers
4 Lancer-class Frigates
4 VT-49 Decimator Assault Ships

Fleet 5:
4 Imperator II-class Star Destroyers
1 Dominator-class Interdictor Cruisers
3 Victory II-class Cruisers
4 Carrack-class Cruisers
4 Lancer-class Frigates
2 VT-49 Decimator Assault Ships



Yeah, they're carbon copies with changed numbers but I'm lazy and don't want to come up with advanced fleets. I don't know if I'll be supporting the AoN/GFFA or the GE in this war yet, but those are the (tentative) numbers of ships in my navy.

That's frightening... A lot of ships there...



BTW, watch your towers.

Ermm, where does the AoN come into it?

AoN? Do we really want to get into that?

Cause a war between two of the old three and a newcomer would be such a pain to handle.

Spectacular though...

OOC: First, I know, no more OOC. This is the last.

Secondly. Reasonless? Gangbangers?

Godular is a close ally. We shall aid them.

Thirdly. We are a sovereign nation. We are not a collection of uncouth individuals who seek to cause general mischief, destruction, and consternation. Hmm, it would seem to me the GE fits that description very well.

Ah yes, Godular; your close ally and the aggressor of this piece. Like he said, it's primarily alliance Vs Alliance; and as likely as those wars are to collapse; everyone elses interference is all the more likely to fuck it up.

I think you'll find that we Chronosian's are far from uncouth; we're quite civilised; machiavellian; and not at all common. It just seems like your the one with the grudge against the GE; for whatever reason I don't know; and want to get in on the action. Godular serves as rather the convenient excuse; what did you do to the GE that allows you to prance about with the fact that their your enemy stuck in your sig?

I only brought up the AoN because I noticed a few AoN members posting, not anything else. Sorry for the confusion.

OOC-Khurgan, you do realise that by attacking Nelvaan, you're attacking almost the entirety of Horde offensive capabilities, right? Unless you're gonna zerg me, I'd say any attack against Nelvaan would be futile at this precise juncture. But that's just me.

OOC-Khurgan, you do realise that by attacking Nelvaan, you're attacking almost the entirety of Horde offensive capabilities, right? Unless you're gonna zerg me, I'd say any attack against Nelvaan would be futile at this precise juncture. But that's just me.

Of course, I will be with you to provide support. The Qinghai Incident hasn't affected the five fleets I had built earlier, or the uberships I had (Drama Casserole Class).

It's a hit and run attack, all I plan to do is launch a few torpedoes at the planet, make sure they go off, and get the hell out. That and the (somewhat ignored) request for aid should help a bit.

Whatever. If you wanna use up some munitions on a planet literally surrounded by capital ships, fine by me.

Anyways, I believe it would be prudent to label war threads, seeing as so many people are involved in this fight. Also, we should set up WHO is fighting in WHAT theatre at WHAT time, as to avoid numberwanking and gangbanging.

Such as this.

"Blahdy Blah Blah GE sucks" (Galactic War, Nelvaan Theatre)

I'm entering. Just a little warning.

GE Member. Long-time ally of Chronosia.

Yeah, might not post too often, though.

... And I need to not post when I have class in ten minutes. Damn it all to hell. ^_^

Whatever. If you wanna use up some munitions on a planet literally surrounded by capital ships, fine by me.
I've managed it before, so I think I have a chance, no matter how slim. Will be somewhat greater if I get the assistance I requested *cough*slackers*cough*.

*Sigh* everytime this last week I tried to post up my fleet entering, and I couldn't 'cause jolt was on crack or I ran out of time on NS.

As to who is fighting who, I would like to go against the theater New Dornalia is in. We're RL friends, but Icly enemies. It's easier for me to contact him and coordinate my attacks on him rather than going against Godular (that's my second option).

So....

Here's my fleet.

HQ:
1 Nemesis Class Towerless Super Star Destroyer (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9221693&postcount=1) (Commander: Lady/Lord Shelintiave)
1 Megaladon Class Towerless Super Star Destroyer (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9862289&postcount=16) (Commander: Grand Admiral Jurnaka)
4 Petulant Class Towerless Star Destroyers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9093577&postcount=1)

Main Fleet:
50 Imperator Class Towerless Star Destroyers Mk III (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9133982&postcount=3)
50 Everquest Star Cruisers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9046452&postcount=75)

If someone has a problem with this fleet, tell me and I'll make changes.
I talked to N.D. the other day about sending in my Nemesis TSSD and he didn't have a prob. Thought of sending in the Megaladon's at the last minute considering how I'll be going up against multiple enemies and I will need lots of heavy support.

*Sigh* everytime this last week I tried to post up my fleet entering, and I couldn't 'cause jolt was on crack or I ran out of time on NS.

As to who is fighting who, I would like to go against the theater New Dornalia is in. We're RL friends, but Icly enemies. It's easier for me to contact him and coordinate my attacks on him rather than going against Godular (that's my second option).

So....

Here's my fleet.

HQ:
1 Nemesis Class Towerless Super Star Destroyer (Commander: Lady/Lord Shelintiave)
1 Megaladon Class Towerless Super Star Destroyer (Commander: Grand Admiral Jurnaka)
4 Petulant Class Towerless Star Destroyers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9093577&postcount=1)

Main Fleet:
50 Imperator Class Towerless Star Destroyers Mk III (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9133982&postcount=3)
50 Everquest Star Cruisers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9046452&postcount=75)

If someone has a problem with this fleet, tell me and I'll make changes.
I talked to N.D. the other day about sending in my Nemesis TSSD and he didn't have a prob. Thought of sending in the Megaladon's at the last minute considering how I'll be going up against multiple enemies and I will need lots of heavy support.

As it is, I have fleets mobilized, but have not committed them yet. I was discussing aiding an assault with Gaia Rodina on another planet, but I could spare another ubership (the promised Battlestar Potemkin) and a couple more fleets to aid the Lincoln Brigade fighting the Kirtir, that would be a way to do things, no?

As it is, I have fleets mobilized, but have not committed them yet. I was discussing aiding an assault with Gaia Rodina on another planet, but I could spare another ubership (the promised Battlestar Potemkin) and a couple more fleets to aid the Lincoln Brigade fighting the Kirtir, that would be a way to do things, no?

Sure, two super command ships for the each of us is fair (plus, mine are a bit more powerful).

Also, I have a sub plot for the G.F.F.A. to capture Shelintiave if anyone doesn't mind. This which will lead to Shelintiave's eventual turn over to the Light Side after she learns that her brother is alive and is leading the Malkir against the Huntarian Empire.

Sure, two super command ships for the each of us is fair (plus, mine are a bit more powerful).

Also, I have a sub plot for the G.F.F.A. to capture Shelintiave if anyone doesn't mind. This which will lead to Shelintiave's eventual turn over to the Light Side after she learns that her brother is alive and is leading the Malkir against the Huntarian Empire.

Two? I was just gonna send the Potemkin. But then again, looking at the fleet order of battle, I may dig up the Warmaster St. Ushankov to put the pressure on your uberships too. It gives me an opportunity to use them, anyway.

And I think the Acolytes of the Lincoln Brigade could help with that last subplot.

Two? I was just gonna send the Potemkin. But then again, looking at the fleet order of battle, I may dig up the Warmaster St. Ushankov to put the pressure on your uberships too. It gives me an opportunity to use them, anyway.

And I think the Acolytes of the Lincoln Brigade could help with that last subplot.

Going by the specifications, I'm sending in an updated version of the Eclipse and better Executor SSD.

Going by the specifications, I'm sending in an updated version of the Eclipse and better Executor SSD.

That's cool. Still, all the heavy guns I have should do something to them-even the Lincoln Brigade's got Warp Cannons.

Can sombody reply top the message my commander sent out.

I'm entering. Just a little warning.

GE Member. Long-time ally of Chronosia.

Yeah, might not post too often, though.

... And I need to not post when I have class in ten minutes. Damn it all to hell. ^_^

Now I'm scared. :p

NO! NOT THE TENTACLES! :D Good to see ya, Mekanta. Been a while since I saw you in an RP.

People doing the New Dornalia thing you should probably make a new thread.

Abh requested that we keep this fight small. The New Dornalia fight is hereby limited to 2v2. Abh and ND, VS Me and one GE member. All others, back off, so requesteth Abh.

Apparently!

EDIT: No really, wait, I'm out of this then, right?

Music-Coordinated attacks seem to be the norm so far.

EDIT: Out of the ND thing, I guess so.

Sorry to do this to you guys, but could somebody give me a brief update of the happenings?

Sorry to do this to you guys, but could somebody give me a brief update of the happenings?

I detonated some suits from Mini Miehm, I made a to do about it, spinning the blame to him, and now I am facing invasion in the New Territories, with a great soundtrack.

I detonated some suits from Mini Miehm, I made a to do about it, spinning the blame to him, and now I am facing invasion in the New Territories, with a great soundtrack.

Adequate Soundtrack, the better songs come later on later strikes. Like Sabbath, or Iron Man, or Don't Tread on Me, or any of the other powerful Metallica or Black Sabbath classics.

Eh, I know I sound B17(|-|y, but ummm,

...EDIT: No really, wait, I'm out of this then, right?

I just want to definite "yes", or "no".

Eh, I know I sound B17(|-|y, but ummm,



I just want to definite "yes", or "no".

I think you're off. I'll return and we can un-clusterfuck this fight.

I think you're off. I'll return and we can un-clusterfuck this fight.

Alright then. I'll delete my post, and save it somewhere the next time ND needs his a55 saved.

And by "un-clusterfuck", do you mean, after you're done with fighting? Or...?
Sorry, but I'm out today. Reason: Exams.

Alright then. I'll delete my post, and save it somewhere the next time ND needs his a55 saved.

And by "un-clusterfuck", do you mean, after you're done with fighting? Or...?
Sorry, but I'm out today. Reason: Exams.

Un-clusterfuck as in, get this properly organised.

Wait, just how many threads do we have running at once here? I have 1 (2 actually, one for my civil war, one kinda parallel character RP that's wrapping up and doesn't pertain at all to this)

There's this ooc thread, and then the main war thread, yes? That it?

Wait, just how many threads do we have running at once here? I have 1 (2 actually, one for my civil war, one kinda parallel character RP that's wrapping up and doesn't pertain at all to this)

There's this ooc thread, and then the main war thread, yes? That it?

So far.

Currently yes.

I think that the New Dornalia thing should move out to a new thread. Doesn't need an intro, it can just start mid battle. The fewer actions we have going on in one thread at once, the better.

I agree.

Dweladelfia, if you have no objections I will start a new thread for my attack on Dweladelfia Prime (the system). Won't be tonight but probably tomorrow afternoon.

Abh, I sent you a TG.

<TAG> 'cause the thread tools aren't working.

The big, long, boring list of ships will be edited in gradually.

Primary Fleet (Designated, for reasons unknown, Plum Jam)
1 “Pike” class Heavy Battleship
4 “Lance” class Heavy Battleships
4 “Halberd” class Heavy Battleships
10 “Longsword” class Battleships
15 “Broadsword” class Battleships
30 “Longbow” Interceptors
20 “Javelin” Frigates
40 “Morningstar” Destroyers
Lots & lots of “Hatchet” Heavy Fighters and “Dagger” Fighters
5 large Drone Control Platforms
15 “Ballista” Long-Range Assault Ships (assorted sizes)
20 “Falcon” Scouts


Secondary Fleet (Stiletto)
Doomweaver
2 “Halberd” Heavy Battleships
2 “Longsword” Battleships
20 “Longbow” Interceptors
10 “Morningstar” Destroyers
10 “Ballista” LRA Ships (assorted sizes)
15 “Falcon” Scouts
Other vessels and fighters may be included, depending on task.

(All numbers above 5 are tentative; advice is welcome.)

Hey, NE. Perhaps after people start making new threads for the different conflicts (e.g. the assault on Dweladelfia), you could make a list of all of them on the OP of this thread?

Thread tools suck...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465029: Dweledelfian Front

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465030: Dornalian Front

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465014: Tidani Front

Though technically it is not known to be a front yet.

ND what system should my fleet jump into? The fleet includes.

7th Battle Fleet

35 FCG-953 "Scepter" Class Corvettes
25 FFG-142 "Fox" Class Frigates
25 FCG-443 "Avalance" Class Crusiers
20 FDG-563 "Sparta" Class Destroyers
15 FBG-926 "Guardian" Class Battleships
10 FAG-743 "Colossus" Class Carriers

50,000 F-978SP "Raven" Class Fighters (Estimate I really don't want to do the math)

Dweladelfia, if you have no objections I will start a new thread for my attack on Dweladelfia Prime (the system). Won't be tonight but probably tomorrow afternoon.

Theres already a thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465029

Hey Can sombody send a fleet to help me or somtin?

ND what system should my fleet jump into? The fleet includes.

7th Battle Fleet

35 FCG-953 "Scepter" Class Corvettes
25 FFG-142 "Fox" Class Frigates
25 FCG-443 "Avalance" Class Crusiers
20 FDG-563 "Sparta" Class Destroyers
15 FBG-926 "Guardian" Class Battleships
10 FAG-743 "Colossus" Class Carriers

50,000 F-978SP "Raven" Class Fighters (Estimate I really don't want to do the math)

Well, we'd like you to jump into the New Territories, but Abh apparently wanted it to be a 2v2 fight. Unless that has changed....

I will be sending forces to Dweledelfia Prime. The Talaax are about to find that the Kythons are the worst possible enemies they could ever have...

I'd be sending stuff to New Dornalia, too, but from what ND says, they want to keep it down at the moment. So I'll just take a wait and see approach on that and start working on plans for a direct attack on Chronosian systems...

I will be sending forces to Dweledelfia Prime. The Talaax are about to find that the Kythons are the worst possible enemies they could ever have...

I'd be sending stuff to New Dornalia, too, but from what ND says, they want to keep it down at the moment. So I'll just take a wait and see approach on that and start working on plans for a direct attack on Chronosian systems...

Again, I heard it by word of mouth. Not sure what the exact status is, but I'd like to have more support-from what I've read, MM's ships are HUGE!

And I'd thought the People's Hammer Torpedoes, with 160+KG of Anitmatter in them each, would do something....I still have more though.

from what I've read, MM's ships are HUGE!

Got any specs on them?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9640647&postcount=1

Well, actually, the way he depicted them, they were monsters. And compared to 2.5 kilometers for a Mao Zedong III, they are huge....

Don't bother sending anything to Dweladelfia. I don't plan on staying long enough for massive forces to be concentrated there...

I'm still fighting against N.D. Speaking of which, I'm ready for my attack on ya N.D.

I'm still fighting against N.D. Speaking of which, I'm ready for my attack on ya N.D.

Where should we begin? I am ready to deploy forces to aid the Lincoln Brigade, perhaps we should do that there to start, with a new thread. As it is with MM, I am seriously uncomfortable OOCly with any more invasions on my home soil.

Again, I heard it by word of mouth. Not sure what the exact status is, but I'd like to have more support-from what I've read, MM's ships are HUGE!

And I'd thought the People's Hammer Torpedoes, with 160+KG of Anitmatter in them each, would do something....I still have more though.

Humf his ships may be bigger but mine have more guns. And what do youy mean dont bother send reinforcments?

Humf his ships may be bigger but mine have more guns.

True, and as stated before, my ships are almost all heavy guns.

But still, Godd-mn!

Where should we begin? I am ready to deploy forces to aid the Lincoln Brigade, perhaps we should do that there to start, with a new thread. As it is with MM, I am seriously uncomfortable OOCly with any more invasions on my home soil.

Sure. From what I'm aware of, there are seperate threads so just make a seperate one and I'll arive. Be prepaired for my armies. This is where the fun begins.


MWUA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

FOR POWER!!!!! UNLIMITED POWER!!! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

Sure. From what I'm aware of, there are seperate threads so just make a seperate one and I'll arive. Be prepaired for my armies. This is where the fun begins.


MWUA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

FOR POWER!!!!! UNLIMITED POWER!!! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

Down, Emperor Tom Cruise. Down.

And where will they arrive?

Sure. From what I'm aware of, there are seperate threads so just make a seperate one and I'll arive. Be prepaired for my armies. This is where the fun begins.


MWUA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

FOR POWER!!!!! UNLIMITED POWER!!! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

Your startin to freak me out.......

Down, Emperor Tom Cruise. Down.

And where will they arrive?

I was assuming your systems of controle. If so, I'm going to need a few more ships.... But, not now. You can decide.


IC: "Every single New Dornalian is now an enemy of the Huntarian Empire....."

OOC: I'm watching ROTS right now.....

Your startin to freak me out.......

*Continues Cackle*

I meant your allies shouldn't send you reinforcements. I don't plan on staying to conquer your entire space. Or even your capitol system.

ND, I sugest you start that thread now. I gotta leave for a swim meet later and won't be back later today.

I was assuming your systems of controle. If so, I'm going to need a few more ships.... But, not now. You can decide.


IC: "Every single New Dornalian is now an enemy of the Huntarian Empire....."

OOC: I'm watching ROTS right now.....

IC:

"And in turn, every Huntarian Kirtir Sith Imperialist is now an enemy of the Workers and Peasants of New Dornalia. Their uncivilized runningdog regime of kleptocrats and butchers is no longer recognized; the Malkir, who are friends of Socialism and the Workers and Peasant, are to be considered the sole regime of Huntaer, for they are trustworthy."

OOC: Well, again, I was thinking more like a simple intervention in your space, on the side of the Lincoln Brigade and the Malkir, as part of the civil war, to try and knock the Kirtir out of the war. I'll send my uberships and fleets, and then you can react.

And yes, I know that was ROTS-I have it too. Just that the Tom Cruise Force Lightning Video came to mind....

IC:

"And in turn, every Huntarian Kirtir Sith Imperialist is now an enemy of the Workers and Peasants of New Dornalia. Their uncivilized runningdog regime of kleptocrats and butchers is no longer recognized; the Malkir, who are friends of Socialism and the Workers and Peasant, are to be considered the sole regime of Huntaer, for they are trustworthy."

OOC: Well, again, I was thinking more like a simple intervention in your space, on the side of the Lincoln Brigade and the Malkir, as part of the civil war, to try and knock the Kirtir out of the war. I'll send my uberships and fleets, and then you can react.

And yes, I know that was ROTS-I have it too. Just that the Tom Cruise Force Lightning Video came to mind....

Hmmm..... Nah. I was thinking you could use my attack as an excuse to help aid the Malkir. Capture Shelintiave, send her to the Malkir in the Civil War, help them, and attempt to colapse the dark reign of the Empire.

Then we will spar then...send them to New Leningrad. We will have a brawl!

Say, about that last part:

Capture Shelintiave, send her to the Malkir in the Civil War, help them, and attempt to colapse the dark reign of the Empire.

Will that be a foregone conclusion?

Then we will spar then...send them to New Leningrad. We will have a brawl!


EXCELENT! NOW.... you will experience the full power of the dark side!!!


Say, about that last part:

Will that be a foregone conclusion?

Fairly much.

EDIT:

Get the thread started. I'm leaving in 15 min.

Got any specs on them?

I do indeed have specs, and, for the Ships of the Wall, they certainly are huge.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=444151 I'll show you the TRUE monster later. Fear the 4...

Also, I have plenty of guns... Just wait till The Unforgiven II makes an appearance... Plus, 60 Yamato cannon is enough to rape just about any ISD force that's sent against it.

Godulan Ship Stats: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10098058&postcount=32

Godulan Fleet Organization: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10205210&postcount=55

And include somewhere in the range of 20 thousand fighter craft with each battlefleet.

Kython Deathlord Stats: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10109107&postcount=34

Kython Fleet Organization is somewhat more basic, but was not previously disclosed.

In one thousand vessel increments, the following fleet consistency is followed:

--Deathlord Battleships (100)
--Slaughterking Destroyer-Carriers (900)
--Slaymaster Fightercraft (75k)

As a result of their compact stature and ease of storage, each Slaughterking and Deathlord can store seventy-five Slaymaster fightercraft that can be fully dispersed in under a minute.

I'll have to put down the Slaughterking and Slaymaster stats somewhere when I get the time. I'll also have to bring out updated specs of the Archonal Command ships and of the Four Horsemen...

If you guys want to know anything about my ships, culture, characters, or systems (though I haven't gotten around to the systems yet)... check my sig.

ND since the you and Abh wanted to keep the numbers low..How about my ships went to a different Effected system for rescue and rebuilding operations?

ND since the you and Abh wanted to keep the numbers low..How about my ships went to a different Effected system for rescue and rebuilding operations?

Well, Abh did, I would have been just fine having you intervene. As it is, go to Earth SSR. We need to clean Central China.

Alright we will help with the clean up.

Wait, anybody need me at all? From the looks of things, Mini Miehm is getting tag-teamed at New Dornalia, and the thingie at Dweledelfia appears to be little more than Talaax attempting a bio attack that will cause minor-moderate damage before containment.

If not, I'll just start up my own offensive. These battles are turning out surprisingly short.

I think we should begin to attack, the GE have made their move, now it is our turn.

Minor-moderate? The bacteria are fast acting and self-propogating. The entire ecosystem would be destroyed within a month, irreversible damage in half that. The attack would have killed millions before a suitable antibiotic substance could be created in enough quanitity to end the infection.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465194: Talaaxian Front

The Godulans don't take too kindly to direct attacks on civilians. I won't send my forces to Dweledelfia, but they do have a target...

Ten Days

Ten Days

CW or US?

CW or US?

Yes.

I'm just curious as to whether that's CW posting as US.

Okay, MM, I have been looking at your posts, and judging by your questions about my Demolisher Guns, your responses (which puzzled me and frustrated me) and on the advice of Kyanges (an RL friend), it seems that we have some misunderstandings about the way my tech works. I'll just say that right now. I have done some lookings at at your tech, which explains my movements up and down.

First off, every People's Hammer Antimatter torpedo is packed with 150 kilograms of good old fashioned antimatter. That's enough to sunder planets apart....yet your ships seem to be taking no damage whatsoever.

Second, I do use regular SW torpedoes, but I also use upgunned variations such as the El Cid displayed here, and I also performed a blanket upgrade of all the other SW types, so they're not going to be cookie-cutter bland generic pushovers.

Mark II Proton Torpedoes (El Cid)

Upgrades of the original Star Wars-style Proton Torpedo in use, this new type is simply an elongation of the torpedo from its original conical shape into a longer cone, whereupon an increased explosive payload and a Taishonium charge weighing 2-5kg is used to deliver 4x greater damage than a standard Torpedo. The torpedo also recieves enhanced electronics and increased manueverability thanks to the addition of enhanced steering thrusters.

Other torpedo types, such as concussion torpedoes and whatnot, are recieiving general upgrades in electronics and payload size and propulsion.


Specific Upgrades would include the electronics featured on the People's Hammer, which is the paragon of ND Torpedoes. This would make them smarter (with greater accuracy, aided by the Anaconda torpedo launcher turret's flexible barrel), faster, and more durable.

People's Hammer-


People's Hammer Antimatter Torpedo

Utilizing the equilvalent of a 14V battery, an internal generator keeps 50kg antimatter seperated from a 50kg load of Deuterium Gas, mined from New Leningrad. A JTC-1 Guidance Computer maintains the torpedo's course, guiding it to its target and keeping it going nose first. The torpedo either detonates on impact using a pressure switch in the nose that activates after a heavy force (say, a full frontal impact on enemy shielding or hull plating), or shuts off the anitmatter containment field and opens the deuterium canister at a preprogrammed distance from the target.

Stats:
Name: People's Hammer Antimatter Torpedo
Size: 1.5m long, .5m wide
Warload: 150kg Antimatter/Deuterium Binary Charge w/ 14V Powerpack for a low yield forcefield, 1x ToSh-1 Shield System to protect the torpedo
Range: 1-3 lightyears
Engine: ToE-1 Hydrogen Fusion Motor with integrated ToFTL-1 Hyperdrive Unit capable of 80 MGLT
Body: Leninite-Manganese-Titanium Shell, Diamond hull plating for extra ray-shield defense
Blast Magnitude: Classified, estimated to be able to open a hole the size of Africa if fired at the Earth.
Role: Fleet superiority
Deployed on: Mao Zedong II, Zaitsev ISD, Peter Townshend Mobile Suit (Modified for use in MSGEP-1 Guided Explosive Projectile Launcher)
Cost: USD$70,000,000

People's Hammer, like most New Dornalian torpedo types, has undergone minor upgrades to expand payload, improve manuverability and accuracy in battle.


Third, I also use Warp Cannons derived from Chronosian designs (which in turn inspired the upgunned Demolisher Gun), which are a heckuva lot stronger than SW Turbolasers, in fact, speaking to Huntaer (a 40K fan himself), he classified the Warp Cannon as a heavy gun. In other words, something not to sneeze at. I also use Super Warp Cannons; my versions are akin to Yamatos in charging time, and power. And, I use Gauss Guns for point defense and as a kind of flak.

Fourth: The Storm Eagle Defense System is, well, I'll let the post describe it:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10182872&postcount=1

That's not a major beef right now, techwise.

So, I strongly urge you to consider my comments, and perhaps put up any other questions you may have. I mean no harm, I just want to address an issue here.

Okay, MM, I have been looking at your posts, and judging by your questions about my Demolisher Guns, your responses (which puzzled me and frustrated me) and on the advice of Kyanges (an RL friend), it seems that we have some misunderstandings about the way my tech works. I'll just say that right now. I have done some lookings at at your tech, which explains my movements up and down.

First off, every People's Hammer Antimatter torpedo is packed with 150 kilograms of good old fashioned antimatter. That's enough to sunder planets apart....yet your ships seem to be taking no damage whatsoever.

Second, I do use regular SW torpedoes, but I also use upgunned variations such as the El Cid displayed here, and I also performed a blanket upgrade of all the other SW types, so they're not going to be cookie-cutter bland generic pushovers.



Specific Upgrades would include the electronics featured on the People's Hammer, which is the paragon of ND Torpedoes. This would make them smarter (with greater accuracy, aided by the Anaconda torpedo launcher turret's flexible barrel), faster, and more durable.



Third, I also use Warp Cannons derived from Chronosian designs (which in turn inspired the upgunned Demolisher Gun), which are a heckuva lot stronger than SW Turbolasers, in fact, speaking to Huntaer (a 40K fan himself), he classified the Warp Cannon as a heavy gun. In other words, something not to sneeze at. I also use Super Warp Cannons; my versions are akin to Yamatos in charging time, and power. And, I use Gauss Guns for point defense and as a kind of flak.

Fourth: The Storm Eagle Defense System is, well, I'll let the post describe it:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10182872&postcount=1

That's not a major beef right now, techwise.

So, I strongly urge you to consider my comments, and perhaps put up any other questions you may have. I mean no harm, I just want to address an issue here.

Before we argue about anything, I think you should read this: http://infodump.thefifthimperium.com/Harrington/hh_wedge_geometry.htm It explains the use and properties of a Wedge and sidewalls. Note, some things apply less

I think the issue is a perception of the strength of weapons VS shields. The Peoples Hammer hit the upper aspect of an Impeller wedge. The upper and lower aspects of a wedge are impenetrable, except by Singularities and Vong Basals.

All of the following statement is predicated on having my ships broadside on to your ships, that being said...

The basic issue with the various energy torpedoes is this: They will be making contact with the sidewalls. The blast will be triggered at that point, which is, according to the developer of the tech 10,000m from the ship. They have large blast radiuses, but not that large. The BEST way to defeat a ship with a Wedge would be to use fighters, and attack the Impeller Rings from INSIDE the Wedge. Or, you could steer around so that you're bow on with them, shooting right down the unprotected throat of the wedge.

Before we argue about anything, I think you should read this: http://infodump.thefifthimperium.com/Harrington/hh_wedge_geometry.htm It explains the use and properties of a Wedge and sidewalls. Note, some things apply less

I think the issue is a perception of the strength of weapons VS shields. The Peoples Hammer hit the upper aspect of an Impeller wedge. The upper and lower aspects of a wedge are impenetrable, except by Singularities and Vong Basals.

All of the following statement is predicated on having my ships broadside on to your ships, that being said...

The basic issue with the various energy torpedoes is this: They will be making contact with the sidewalls. The blast will be triggered at that point, which is, according to the developer of the tech 10,000km from the ship. They have large blast radiuses, but not that large. The BEST way to defeat a ship with a Wedge would be to use fighters, and attack the Impeller Rings from INSIDE the Wedge. Or, you could steer around so that you're bow on with them, shooting right down the unprotected throat of the wedge.

Ah....I see. Not bad, I'll take the latter suggestion, or use Mobile Suits- they're the only ones cleared for People's Hammer use on a small scale.

Nice to see we could talk this out civilly, I thought this was going to get ugly (my experience, tech talk usually does).

Minor-moderate? The bacteria are fast acting and self-propogating. The entire ecosystem would be destroyed within a month, irreversible damage in half that. The attack would have killed millions before a suitable antibiotic substance could be created in enough quanitity to end the infection.

Anti-biotic? Who said anything about an anti-biotic? They're so ineffective and mutations could render them useless.

Viruses are the way to go. Now that I see this, I'll revise my two-and-a-half hour production of it, but we'll definately have it under control within a week. At most.

Ah....I see. Not bad, I'll take the latter suggestion, or use Mobile Suits- they're the only ones cleared for People's Hammer use on a small scale.

Nice to see we could talk this out civilly, I thought this was going to get ugly (my experience, tech talk usually does).

I'm generally good about my tech. If it don't work, I don't use it most of the time, as in, I've only had to $plotdevice 3 things I can think of...

Godular, the DS never went to Kaminos, it was GOING to go there for a trap, but that plan was nixed, meaning the DS is... Elsewhere...

Oh good. Then that means I don't have to lower the field around Kaminos in order to get to the dirty work of destroying it.

Me and Tidan are going at it, if you havn't noticed. Our little tiff is a part of this procedure.

New RP thread.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10298993#post10298993

So far it should just be myself and the allies I've cobbled together against Chronosia/Unified Sith.

New RP thread.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10298993#post10298993

So far it should just be myself and the allies I've cobbled together against Chronosia/Unified Sith.

And in return it should be the allies that I've cobbled together against you. Now; that the issue of the worlds you planned to take from me is sorted :) I think we can get onto the more important issue of....Well, more attrition

I'm generally good about my tech. If it don't work, I don't use it most of the time, as in, I've only had to $plotdevice 3 things I can think of...

Thanks, man. One thing though. My defenders at Ft. MacAllister are technically facing the vulnerable spots, only Zhao is going to have a spot of trouble. Otherwise, that's the last of that argument.

Thanks, man. One thing though. My defenders at Ft. MacAllister are technically facing the vulnerable spots, only Zhao is going to have a spot of trouble. Otherwise, that's the last of that argument.

They're advancing Broadside on, it's in the posts.

Tiiiiidan, get online bud, we need to talk.

The Galaxy Gun has been fired, lets have a moment of silence for the rp quality of the war. It is currently fighting for its life.
Oh shut up. You knew what you were getting into. You attack Chron, and he will hit you wirth everythiong in his arsenal, as well as several things from yours, and your allies...

The Galaxy Gun has been fired, lets have a moment of silence for the rp quality of the war. It is currently fighting for its life.

Excuse me? Disregarding Godular's little toy; disregarding the phenomenal amount of NON-CONFERANCE and damned well NON-Joint planning of this RP; I think you should keep your opinions to yourself. You expect me to do nothing in the face of being attacked? The Galaxy Gun was legitimately constructed by the Empire; if you wished to complain, you should have, when it was being built; you had a thread about it on the GFFA forums no less!

If you have a problem about my RP quality; go ahead and say it; fully, tell me how I'm putting the quality of this RP in jeopardy; instead of snide little comments. You have something to say; lets hear it; because I would love to hear you talk about how I'm jeopardising this RP; this RP that was sprung upon me complete with wank-tastically un-fathomably uber-FTLi. Come on; enlighten me, Please. If you have nothing decent to contribute; Don't contribute at all.

Chronosia, I await your reply to my IC post (just an intro into the war saying that we are ready to fight beside you where needed).

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465339 - Starenall Front

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10299748#post10299748 - Abh front.

-snippity-

I don't see the condition of this RP being disturbed at all, especially not by you. (if anyone here has suggested that, they should be fed saltpeter)

However, we need to iron this out. Gaia Rodinia DID have an inhibiter field up in his invasion of the planet. You can claim that he never mentioned it as on, BUT he never mentioned de-activating it. You're assuming that he de-activated it (Not always necessary to allow friendly ships in. Some can accept security codes and open localized holes, just like the main worlds of the Empire did.)

IMO no mention of a change of status of the FTLi denotes no change in status. It's like fleets. If you don't say that they've advanced from point A to point B, they have clearly stayed at point A and done nothing. Or like people. Your national leader goes to a confrence. Until you state that he's somewhere else, he's effectively still at that confrence (unless it's a catastrophic thread death)

How about this: there is no change in the FTLi. All of his fleets that went to re-inforce are still traveling through the inhibitor field to get to the planet. The GG shell is pulled out of hyper at the edge of the system. That way you can tear up his local fleet pretty bad with the shell, but he keeps the planet. (damage to the local fleet might lower the inhibitor)

Just spewing junk. However, I would rather see my nation in ruins, my people in chains, and the entirety of the GFFA destroyed than let a petty argument like this destroy a potentially historic RP.

EDIT: for record's sake, No Endorse is covered by a complex network of FTLi generators, and damaged space-time (great big battle with singularity weapons long time ago in the nation's history. Makes getting anywhere a pain.)

Those FTLi are all over, except for fixed hypergates between systems, and several routes out of the nation.

I, also, would like to encourage everyone to remain calm. Important as it is to avoid letting OOC concerns affect IC actions, it is even more so to avoid letting IC enmity lead to OOC conflict. Let's not make accusations about lowering the quality of the RP because of honest mistakes, much less strategic moves we don't like.

For the record, let it be noted that the three primary Kendaryn systems are protected by FTLi systems, which will remain active unless I state otherwise.

Azaha, I can't get online because I am at school. you can send me an email if you want.

MM and Chron, I was about to defend my statement but I have decided not to stir the pot anymore. I think it is a bad weapon, you don't. Whatever. I'll take back my sarcasm, and move on in the interests of avoiding a flamefest.

EDIT: Chon, never did I say you rp poorly or were endangering the quality of the rp. My comment was restricted to the GG itself and nothing else.

I don't see the condition of this RP being disturbed at all, especially not by you. (if anyone here has suggested that, they should be fed saltpeter)

However, we need to iron this out. Gaia Rodinia DID have an inhibiter field up in his invasion of the planet. You can claim that he never mentioned it as on, BUT he never mentioned de-activating it. You're assuming that he de-activated it (Not always necessary to allow friendly ships in. Some can accept security codes and open localized holes, just like the main worlds of the Empire did.)

IMO no mention of a change of status of the FTLi denotes no change in status. It's like fleets. If you don't say that they've advanced from point A to point B, they have clearly stayed at point A and done nothing. Or like people. Your national leader goes to a confrence. Until you state that he's somewhere else, he's effectively still at that confrence (unless it's a catastrophic thread death)

How about this: there is no change in the FTLi. All of his fleets that went to re-inforce are still traveling through the inhibitor field to get to the planet. The GG shell is pulled out of hyper at the edge of the system. That way you can tear up his local fleet pretty bad with the shell, but he keeps the planet. (damage to the local fleet might lower the inhibitor)

Just spewing junk. However, I would rather see my nation in ruins, my people in chains, and the entirety of the GFFA destroyed than let a petty argument like this destroy a potentially historic RP.

EDIT: for record's sake, No Endorse is covered by a complex network of FTLi generators, and damaged space-time (great big battle with singularity weapons long time ago in the nation's history. Makes getting anywhere a pain.)

Those FTLi are all over, except for fixed hypergates between systems, and several routes out of the nation.

I would like to point out as it was in the Galaxy Gun construction thread, that the Galaxy Guns shells are actually equiped with FTLi Nullifiers, FTLi's do not pose a problem.

This will be the first time any GFFA nation has encountered such Imperial technology, so you will be shocked.

NINE DAYS

Ok I'm being totally serious, no sarcasm, just a question. No one else sees this as a Godmod? I am the only one?

Ok I'm being totally serious, no sarcasm, just a question. No one else sees this as a Godmod? I am the only one?

And what about Goldulars little all grand FTLi's? Wank with Wank Tidan, you want one area sorted out, first your side must give a little.

And what about Goldulars little all grand FTLi's? Wank with Wank Tidan, you want one area sorted out, first your side must give a little.

So the weapon's creator agrees with me? That makes me feel better.

Indeed, but the weapon is still rather simple, and in retrospect not as Godmode as other giant capital ships out there. All it is, is rather long ranged artillery.

However my main point is that GODMODULAR refuses to give in any tech area and as such the Imperial Forces will simply respond in kind.

Fair after all is fair.

Indeed, but the weapon is still rather simple, and in retrospect not as Godmode as other giant capital ships out there. All it is, is rather long ranged artillery.

However my main point is that GODMODULAR refuses to give in any tech area and as such the Imperial Forces will simply respond in kind.

Fair after all is fair.


Unified Sith. Last time I checked you had left Nationstates. If you wish to reclaim your nation and role-play its actions, then do so. However, if you don't wish to, then leave us in peace.

No offense, but all of this bickering is pointless. If you're unable to refrain from using imporper names and childish insults, then you score pretty high on my 'IGNORE CANNON' list.

Cool it.


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One thing that REALLY needs to be done by the GFFA, is actualy contacting the GE when finding out about planets to attack. Don't just cruise the lucasfilm website looking for a random name from the movies, actually ask Chronosia/ Khurgan/ whoever about a target. We are in NS, not the real Galactic Empire.

THAT is the main Godmode that can be seen, that plus the assumed change in state of the FTLi over whichever backwater planet we're arguing about it over.

I would like to point out as it was in the Galaxy Gun construction thread, that the Galaxy Guns shells are actually equiped with FTLi Nullifiers, FTLi's do not pose a problem.

This will be the first time any GFFA nation has encountered such Imperial technology, so you will be shocked.

This is a matter of scale. A 'small' (few hundred meters MAX I think) shell can't overpower a huge warfleet all generating an FTLi, just like a small laser can't break a large shield, or like a light 'armor penetrating' round would run away crying from an M1A1's front armor. If you really want to break the lockdown, just try overloading Godular's FTLi. You'll burn out quite a few of your own FTL generators, but you'll overload his inhibitor generators.



Also, what's the deal with the day countdowns?

I have been quite lax in my communication with Chronosia, Khurgan, and other members of the GE. I apologize. I guess I'm still stuck in the old ways of the Doujin War (modern tech) where you didn't talk to your enemy about ANYTHING. That's how I got glassed in modern tech. GLASSED, I SAY!

Unified Sith. Last time I checked you had left Nationstates. If you wish to reclaim your nation and role-play its actions, then do so. However, if you don't wish to, then leave us in peace.

No offense, but all of this bickering is pointless. If you're unable to refrain from using imporper names and childish insults, then you score pretty high on my 'IGNORE CANNON' list.

Cool it.


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One thing that REALLY needs to be done by the GFFA, is actualy contacting the GE when finding out about planets to attack. Don't just cruise the lucasfilm website looking for a random name from the movies, actually ask Chronosia/ Khurgan/ whoever about a target. We are in NS, not the real Galactic Empire.

THAT is the main Godmode that can be seen, that plus the assumed change in state of the FTLi over whichever backwater planet we're arguing about it over.



This is a matter of scale. A 'small' (few hundred meters MAX I think) shell can't overpower a huge warfleet all generating an FTLi, just like a small laser can't break a large shield, or like a light 'armor penetrating' round would run away crying from an M1A1's front armor. If you really want to break the lockdown, just try overloading Godular's FTLi. You'll burn out quite a few of your own FTL generators, but you'll overload his inhibitor generators.



Also, what's the deal with the day countdowns?


How do you know it's not CW, posting as US. CW does run the US account now after all...

Unified Sith. Last time I checked you had left Nationstates. If you wish to reclaim your nation and role-play its actions, then do so. However, if you don't wish to, then leave us in peace.

No offense, but all of this bickering is pointless. If you're unable to refrain from using imporper names and childish insults, then you score pretty high on my 'IGNORE CANNON' list.

Cool it.

I care not on what you think, for two reasons. One, the name is valid since everyone is thinking it, and two, the name is valid.

I will use this account when I please, Chronosia is currently being deluged by work and posts, and I will lend a hand wherever necessary since he knows very little about Star Wars and the Galactic Empire in general.

And when I want someone to be patronising, I shall request it. So,

Cool it.




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One thing that REALLY needs to be done by the GFFA, is actualy contacting the GE when finding out about planets to attack. Don't just cruise the lucasfilm website looking for a random name from the movies, actually ask Chronosia/ Khurgan/ whoever about a target. We are in NS, not the real Galactic Empire.

THAT is the main Godmode that can be seen, that plus the assumed change in state of the FTLi over whichever backwater planet we're arguing about it over.

I agree 100%



This is a matter of scale. A 'small' (few hundred meters MAX I think) shell can't overpower a huge warfleet all generating an FTLi, just like a small laser can't break a large shield, or like a light 'armor penetrating' round would run away crying from an M1A1's front armor. If you really want to break the lockdown, just try overloading Godular's FTLi. You'll burn out quite a few of your own FTL generators, but you'll overload his inhibitor generators.

Surely this should apply to Godular, as his one ship is also currently shutting down entire Imperial systems?

As for the shells as it stands, the nullifiers are perfectly capable of cutting through an FTLi. Much like a hot knife through butter.




Also, what's the deal with the day countdowns?

Not telling ;)

I care not on what you think, for two reasons. One, the name is valid since everyone is thinking it, and two, the name is valid.

I will use this account when I please, Chronosia is currently being deluged by work and posts, and I will lend a hand wherever necessary since he knows very little about Star Wars and the Galactic Empire in general.

And when I want someone to be patronising, I shall request it. So,

Cool it.




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I agree 100%





Surely this should apply to Godular, as his one ship is also currently shutting down entire Imperial systems?

As for the shells as it stands, the nullifiers are perfectly capable of cutting through an FTLi. Much like a hot knife through butter.






Not telling ;)

You take all the fun out of misdirection...

So, basically, a GG can target whatever the hell it wants (assuming it has enough mass) and blow it out of the sky with NOTHING THAT CAN STOP IT?!

So, basically, a GG can target whatever the hell it wants (assuming it has enough mass) and blow it out of the sky with NOTHING THAT CAN STOP IT?!

There's ways to stop it. It just requires a functioning brain.* It also helps if you consider tactical problems from both sides before acting.

*I'm not saying you lack a functional brain, some other members of the GFFA suffer from that condition, but not you in particular.

Hmm... The Galaxy Gun. I remember reading about that some time ago. I wonder if one of my Flotte-Unterseiten could destroy it. It could most certainly withstand an attack. However, I may have to begin refitting the shielding of my worlds and other smaller ships...

And the defense platforms in all our systems will have to be modified...

But that is no problem.

Especially since, if the GG shell can't get from point A to point B, because of a spatial rift or somesuch, all's well.

OOC: I thought this was only GFFA VS GE....

OOC: I thought this was only GFFA VS GE....

I'm a close ally of Godular's. I'm helping.

And besides, I've hated the GE for some time now. Even before the first conflict between US and Godular.

Irrelevant; your not a part of either.

I have close allies; you don't see them intruding. Bad enough I wasn't consulted about starting this; worse that it should be fucked up by rogue elements bouncing around.

I think we'll stick to having it Alliance vs Alliance; something difficult enough to accomodate without having to offer a place to everyone who has a grudge.

*Snip*
I think we'll stick to having it Alliance vs Alliance; something difficult enough to accomodate without having to offer a place to everyone who has a grudge.

Alliance versus Alliance. Guess its time to call for U.E.O. reinforcements.

Evidently you've forgotten how to count; One Alliance Versus One Alliance. GFFA Vs GE; do I have to make it any clearer?

Evidently you've forgotten how to count; One Alliance Versus One Alliance. GFFA Vs GE; do I have to make it any clearer?

Oh, I can count quite well, thank-you. What are you afraid of? Fighting on multiple fronts against multiple groups?

SeaQuest, you better have a good reason for dragging me onto these forums.

He doesn't. He's whining because he doesn't get to drag his friends into a pointless war he doesn't even have a clear reason for being in.

SeaQuest, you better have a good reason for dragging me onto these forums.

Read this entire thread and then compare it to what you know about my current status.

@SeaQuest: Will do.

@Khurgan: I'll keep that in mind.

My understanding was that this was not an official G.F.F.A. action?

Any FTLi that wasn't capable of resisting nullification would be discarded as useless. It goes without saying that there's an ongoing race between FTL and FTLi technologies. Sure, the GG has a more advanced FTL than most, and is much more efffective at countering FTLi fields, but there's no way that one shell will go through a heavily defended system on war-time footing "like a hot knife through butter". Godular's trick wasn't overpowering your defenses; it was turning them against you. If you want to argue that there should be a way of defeating it besides hunting down and destroying his vessels, then I'm happy to support you on that, but it isn't at all comperable to simply blasting through someone's defenses with a FTLi Nullifier.

The part about communication between the two sides, I agree with completely.

Seaquest, bringing in outside alliances would be worse than bringing in outside allies.

Seaquest, bringing in outside alliances would be worse than bringing in outside allies.
Agreed. Considering that a good number of members of the GE are also in various other large and belligerent alliances, escalating would probably be a bad thing here.

He doesn't. He's whining because he doesn't get to drag his friends into a pointless war he doesn't even have a clear reason for being in.

And why don't I have a clear reason for being in this war?

I wasn't even aware of a clear reason for this war, besides "Look, the Galactic Empire. Lets kill it." No provocative international incident, no GE offensives, nothing. Just some random Godulan terrorist act.

@SeaQuest: Your timing with redoing your fleet was terrible, man. I won't be personnally involved. Consider those troops and ships I mentioned (including the eighteen you currently have patrolling your Milky Way holdings) on loan. I will, however, keep watch to make sure you use my technology in those ships correctly.

@Khurgan: Good point. Why that had to lead to a full out conflict between the G.F.F.A. and the G.E., I don't know.

@Galactic Patrol: Noted and logged, dude.

@All: I'll also hang around this thread in case you have any questions about the tech on the ships I'm loaning SQ.

Guess I'll have to write up an IC post where I take care of the loan.

My understanding was that this was not an official G.F.F.A. action?

Any FTLi that wasn't capable of resisting nullification would be discarded as useless. It goes without saying that there's an ongoing race between FTL and FTLi technologies. Sure, the GG has a more advanced FTL than most, and is much more efffective at countering FTLi fields, but there's no way that one shell will go through a heavily defended system on war-time footing "like a hot knife through butter". Godular's trick wasn't overpowering your defenses; it was turning them against you. If you want to argue that there should be a way of defeating it besides hunting down and destroying his vessels, then I'm happy to support you on that, but it isn't at all comperable to simply blasting through someone's defenses with a FTLi Nullifier.

The part about communication between the two sides, I agree with completely.

Seaquest, bringing in outside alliances would be worse than bringing in outside allies.

Over conversation with Godular on MSN regarding his FTLi’s he is more than adamant that nothing can defeat his one ship, not even a system full of technology which is capable of defeating them.

I thought I would just make that clear, that Godular is refusing to compromise on any point in the RP.

The GE nations, primarily Chronosia has been patient and asked Godular on how to sort this out, but the man just refuses to play nice. Until Godular accepts for once in his life a defeat on his OMG tech, then the GG shells stay the same. Chronosia has made enough concessions already in this RP.

As for SeaQuest, grow up, and just fight the war nicely, if Chron really wanted to he could call upon a lot more than just the GE, he is after all a member of the ESUS.

So far, most problems in the RP have not been created by Chronosia, but members of the GFFA failing to meet a compromise, and until then, no GE nation see why they should continue to compromise?

Its two edged sword people.

@US: Dude, lay off SQ. Just because his timing with re-doing his fleet was bad and he needed additional support if he is going to defend his space against GE incursion doesn't give you the right to get on his back about it.

@US: Dude, lay off SQ. Just because his timing with re-doing his fleet was bad and he needed additional support if he is going to defend his space against GE incursion doesn't give you the right to get on his back about it.

Sure it does. If he does something stupid and doesn't like the consequences, tough.

Sure it does. If he does something stupid and doesn't like the consequences, tough.

No, it doesn't. Ever hear of a thing called commen decency?

No, it doesn't. Ever hear of a thing called commen decency?
Common decency quite obviously doesn't exist on the internet, and usually doesn't apply when the person you're talking to shows you little of it himself. Insulting your opponet is generally not considered common decency, after all.

US: Understood. Compromise has to come from both directions. I'll stop arguing, though I still say the two situations aren't equivalent.

@US: Dude, lay off SQ. Just because his timing with re-doing his fleet was bad and he needed additional support if he is going to defend his space against GE incursion doesn't give you the right to get on his back about it.

I feel the comment was true and just. If he is willing to have the RP degenerate into a gangbang of “I CALL IN WHOEVER”, then he can, but Seaquest must be willing to accept ESUS players.

Which is why Chronosia is attempting to avoid the degeneration of the Roleplay. I feel that my previous post and comment towards SeaQuest was not rude, but actually appropriate. He is goading Chronosia OOCly with snide comments, I suggest you look back on the thread before you make sound judgements on what people can and cannot say.

US: Understood. Compromise has to come from both directions. I'll stop arguing, though I still say the two situations aren't equivalent.

I would also like to say that me and Kendari are now on the same peg, and I thank him/her for realising that both our points require compromise. Perhaps this is the start of the end of this headache?

Common decency quite obviously doesn't exist on the internet, and usually doesn't apply when the person you're talking to shows you little of it himself. Insulting your opponet is generally not considered common decency, after all.

Good point.

Though, last I heard, SQ wasn't an opponent with anyone (other than the MA, but that's another story).

I feel the comment was true and just. If he is willing to have the RP degenerate into a gangbang of “I CALL IN WHOEVER”, then he can, but Seaquest must be willing to accept ESUS players.
*Snip*

Do the research. If you did, you would clearly see I currently don't have the number of a ships needed to fight a prolounged war alone. That is why I asked some of my regional allies to provide some aide to me. It is up to them if they want to RP loaning me the forces or RP their stuff themselves.

Notes:

1.) The United Empire Organziation (U.E.O.) is my regional alliance.
2.) The United Earth Oceans (U.E.O.) is my region.
3.) When I said U.E.O. in my earlier post, I was refering to the region, not the alliance.
4.) Home Galaxy Map: http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6279/homegalaxymarkvii4gb.gif

Do the research. If you did, you would clearly see I currently don't have the number of a ships needed to fight a prolounged war alone. That is why I asked some of my regional allies to provide some aide to me. It is up to them if they want to RP loaning me the forces or RP their stuff themselves.

Notes:

1.) The United Empire Organziation (U.E.O.) is my regional alliance.
2.) The United Earth Oceans (U.E.O.) is my region.
3.) When I said U.E.O. in my earlier post, I was refering to the region, not the alliance.
4.) Home Galaxy Map: http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6279/homegalaxymarkvii4gb.gif


Just because you were stupid enough to misplace most of your ships is NOT our fault. If you're really as weak as all that, maybe I should just send in a few StrikeCruRons and mop up your shipyards and other such installations.

Just because you were stupid enough to misplace most of your ships is NOT our fault. If you're really as weak as all that, maybe I should just send in a few StrikeCruRons and mop up your shipyards and other such installations.

Doing that would only make every other nation, including myself, that uses those yards to start shooting at you. Look at the map and note that their are no border lines between any of the nations in SeaQuest's area.

Just because you were stupid enough to misplace most of your ships is NOT our fault. If you're really as weak as all that, maybe I should just send in a few StrikeCruRons and mop up your shipyards and other such installations.

I wasn't stupid and didn't misplace anything. I decided to restart fresh with a smaller fleet database.

Doing that would only make every other nation, including myself, that uses those yards to start shooting at you. Look at the map and not that their are no border lines between any of the nations in SeaQuest's area.

Ok, so we have what, an Oct 05, a Sept 05, and what else in the way of anklebiters? I garauntee that your odds of winning against me are slim, even with 2-3 of you against just me. I'm not only bigger, but I'm probably MUCH harder to kill.

Ok, so we have what, an Oct 05, a Sept 05, and what else in the way of anklebiters? I garauntee that your odds of winning against me are slim, even with 2-3 of you against just me. I'm not only bigger, but I'm probably MUCH harder to kill.

Dude, you only joined in April 2005, so don't go on about how you would win hands down. You have no intel on any of us in the United Empires Organization or United Earth Oceans region.

Dude, you only joined in April 2005, so don't go on about how you would win hands down. You have no intel on any of us in the United Empires Organization or United Earth Oceans region.

I have PLENTY of intel on SQ for one example. The rest of you are nonissues. For example, I can rush in, hit the shipyards before ANYONE could respond, and get out. If I put up FTLi I have hours to batter at your yards while you come in sublight, if you manage to respond swiftly enough. Tactics and such are obviously NOT the strong suit of your group...

Okay. It looks like I'll be joining the GFFA. If someone could tell me how, I'd be very appreciative.

Secondly. Bigger =/= better. MM, just because you're bigger than them doesn't mean you can automatically win.

Thirdly, @ Godular, is this whole mess arising out of your huge command ship that Baron Skye was on in the Thorn System? If so, and you only have one, let the Empire have its GG. There are many ways to stop something like that, and I have many divices that can. Nothing is insurmountable. Including your ship.

Fourthly, I don't see the problem in bringing in other alliances... After a while. Let the war take its course in the beginning, and then, if we've worked out alot of the kinks, maybe others could join in. Of course, I'm offering advice based on the assumption that I'll get into the GFFA, like, now...

Fifthly, it seems like nobody here wants to lose. That's understandable, as it's human nature. Everyone has to realize that one side will lose, and I should think that both sides should have no pre-conceived notions about victory. When that happens, you get things like the Shivan Wars, where the Shivans never accepted defeat. Then you get people like me, who, every single RP I ever get involved in, I'm supposed to lose just because the other side wants to win. In fact, I think it might be a good idea to plan the entire, the entire course of the war out before we start any more battles.

Anyway. My two cents.

Okay. It looks like I'll be joining the GFFA. If someone could tell me how, I'd be very appreciative.

Secondly. Bigger =/= better. MM, just because you're bigger than them doesn't mean you can automatically win.

Thirdly, @ Godular, is this whole mess arising out of your huge command ship that Baron Skye was on in the Thorn System? If so, and you only have one, let the Empire have its GG. There are many ways to stop something like that, and I have many divices that can. Nothing is insurmountable. Including your ship.

Fourthly, I don't see the problem in bringing in other alliances... After a while. Let the war take its course in the beginning, and then, if we've worked out alot of the kinks, maybe others could join in. Of course, I'm offering advice based on the assumption that I'll get into the GFFA, like, now...

Fifthly, it seems like nobody here wants to lose. That's understandable, as it's human nature. Everyone has to realize that one side will lose, and I should that that both sides should have no pre-conceived notions about victory. When that happens, you get things like the Shivan Wars, where the Shivans never accepted defeat. Then you get people like me, who, every single RP I ever get involved in, I'm supposed to lose just because the other side wants to win. In fact, I think it might be a good idea to plan the entire, the entire course of the war out before we start any more battles.

Anyway. My two cents.

I'm not just Bigger, I'm BETTER. You've never seen SQ try to do Tactics, trust me, I'm better.

As for the last part. FUCK THAT. I refuse to RP in a war where people are too pussy to actually fight it out.

@ Mini Miehm:

Y'know, going by that comment you made about the size of your nation, I'm a year (and a month) older than you. Does that mean I can cream you hands-down?

@ No one in particular:

It also seems that everyone likes to say that what they have can't be beat. In this particular case, it's MM saying his FTLi is unbreakable. It also sounds like Godular is claiming that one of his ships is unbeatable. Etc.

Everything can be beat. Except God and the like, but no one here is claiming Divine Intervention...

I'm not just Bigger, I'm BETTER. You've never seen SQ try to do Tactics, trust me, I'm better.

As for the last part. FUCK THAT. I refuse to RP in a war where people are too pussy to actually fight it out.

Er... I tried to fight. You pushed me out. As for SQ, it is a perfectly ligitimate tactic to ask aid from neighbors. Hell, what do you think Poland did in WWII?

SQ has no fleet to speak of. So he's using allies' ships for now. As he builds his fleet, he'll fight with his own forces. He's not backing away from the fight, he's finding a way to fight.

By the way, MM, if you want to pull "I'm Better than him," I'll pull it too. I'm better than you, MM.

Er... I tried to fight. You pushed me out. As for SQ, it is a perfectly ligitimate tactic to ask aid from neighbors. Hell, what do you think Poland did in WWII?

SQ has no fleet to speak of. So he's using allies' ships for now. As he builds his fleet, he'll fight with his own forces. He's not backing away from the fight, he's finding a way to fight.


He has no ships bedcause he's a moron, who decomissioned them all, then made a new line, instead of letting them be decomissioned as new models came in.

The reason I pushed you out was that there had been a limit of participants put on that RP. Also, I don't think you're alliance, and you can't fight for that reason.

He has no ships bedcause he's a moron, who decomissioned them all, then made a new line, instead of letting them be decomissioned as new models came in.

The reason I pushed you out was that there had been a limit of participants put on that RP. Also, I don't think you're alliance, and you can't fight for that reason.

True, that was idiotic of him, but now he's doing what he can to rectify his mistake by asking for help. He's doing the fighting. Not his allies. I don't really see a problem, except that the GE is trying to limit GFFA forces.

And I think I will be a member very shortly.

Everyone... cool down!

True, that was idiotic of him, but now he's doing what he can to rectify his mistake by asking for help. He's doing the fighting. Not his allies. I don't really see a problem, except that the GE is trying to limit GFFA forces.

And I think I will be a member very shortly.

They tried to wank-limit ours too. Turnabout being fairplay and all.

If you become a member, I MAY be convinced to RP with you, assuming you drop the assaninity about predetermined outcomes.

@DMG: I'm perfectly calm, I ENJOY arguing.

If you want to overload Godular's little FTLi, then shut down your planetary FTLis (his device mostly just distorts your control over them I think, while producing a far weaker FTLi on its own) and then try to continuously jump a full scale battlefleet in and out. He'll have to let it up or it will overload. If it doesn't overload with an entire FLEET against it, then it's essentially a Godmode. All FTLi can be broken, even the big planetary-grade ones (even if it would take more energy than I really want to think about right now...)

Guys, let's keep it STRICTLY GE vs GFFA. NO ONE ELSE. And let's actually talk to people, preferably over MSN/AIM, or even the IRC channel if you are without anything else. We can't get anything done just screamings like this.

mine (if you really need it)
MSN: anomaly149@hotmail.com
AIM: Anomaly149

I want to loose a battle, not tech or numbers. Any takers contact me, I'll start it as soon as possible.

Everyone... cool down!

Seconded. EDIT: MM, I know you're calm, but I prefer not to mince words and personal will on such things....

I have PLENTY of intel on SQ for one example. The rest of you are nonissues. For example, I can rush in, hit the shipyards before ANYONE could respond, and get out. If I put up FTLi I have hours to batter at your yards while you come in sublight, if you manage to respond swiftly enough. Tactics and such are obviously NOT the strong suit of your group...

1.) You only have OOC info on SeaQuest's tech and ships. Whatever IC info you may have picked up was rendered useless when he hit the reset button on his fleet.

2.) You have know IC or OOC knowledge of the location of any of the shipyards.

Okay. It looks like I'll be joining the GFFA. If someone could tell me how, I'd be very appreciative.

@Germanische Zustande: Register on the GFFA forums and post a message about joining. (That's what SQ told me to do if I ever changed my mind about joining).

Link: http://s14.invisionfree.com/Galactic_Federation/index.php?act=idx

1.) You only have OOC info on SeaQuest's tech and ships. Whatever IC info you may have picked up was rendered useless when he hit the reset button on his fleet.

2.) You have know IC or OOC knowledge of the location of any of the shipyards.

Prove it. We were allies, I know people who have used tenuous evidence like that to explain how they could make an attack on supposedly secret facilities. Now, if I were so inclined, I could break in, burn the yards, and leave, before physics would ever allow you to reach me.

Prove it. We were allies, I know people who have used tenuous evidence like that to explain how they could make an attack on supposedly secret facilities. Now, if I were so inclined, I could break in, burn the yards, and leave, before physics would ever allow you to reach me.

1.) I've read SQ's RP's and posts around you. Never were you taken to or give directions to any shipyard.

2.) You would have to handle the ships hanging around each yard (those awaiting assignment and those stationed there as defenses).

3.) Are you trying to bring the United Empires Organization (regional alliance) into this conflict? I thought it was going to be a G.E. vs G.F.F.A. thing only.

1.) I've read SQ's RP's and posts around you. Never were you taken to or give directions to any shipyard.

2.) You would have to handle the ships hanging around each yard (those awaiting assignment and those stationed there as defenses).

3.) Are you trying to bring the United Empires Organization (regional alliance) into this conflict? I thought it was going to be a G.E. vs G.F.F.A. thing only.

1: So? It can be assumed that our interaction involved my getting ahold of his star charts. I have Star Charts, I have locations of shipyards, unless your basic shipyards are 73|-| uber secret.

2: I'd be facing SQ. I'm NOT impressed with jis fighting style or abilities.

3: If I burned the yards there'd be no evidence. FTLi stops FTL communications too, there'd be no way to know who did it, it could have been SQs "enemies" for all you know ICly.

If I burned the yards there'd be no evidence. FTLi stops FTL communications too, there'd be no way to know who did it, it could have been SQs "enemies" for all you know ICly.

There would be no evidence if the black boxes weren't recovered.

And don't assume you would be able to get out unscathed. Some of your ships will be destroyed, thus leaving behind identifiable debris.

Plus, you would have to find them first. There is a reason they aren't listed on the map.

Actually No Endorse, the Empire has methods to counter Godulars FTLi, but he refuses to accept them, as such, most GE members are wondering why on Earth they should accept anything the GFFA does, since he refuses to compromise.

Secondly, GZ, no one is going to accept you, go away. (I wonder why its up to me to air all the GE’s opinions.)

Thirdly, people just joining the GFFA to take part in the war is hardly acceptable. It would take months of legislative work, negotiations and public campaigning for any nation to join any major alliance. Your little wank GZ is just a godmode.

As for Seaquest, as your military is mostly unavailable right now, why on Earth would you motion for an aggressive campaign?

This RP is going to end up in an Ignore, I can guarantee it……

@US: Actually, I'm currently going for a defensive compaign right now. If you look back, its MM trying to draw my regional alliance into this conflict (which is what would happen if he goes for the U.E.O. shipyards (if he can find any) or enters U.E.O. space with agressive intent). As GZ said, I'm only trying to cover my rear by getting help from individual nations in my region without going through the regional alliance.

Actually No Endorse, the Empire has methods to counter Godulars FTLi, but he refuses to accept them, as such, most GE members are wondering why on Earth they should accept anything the GFFA does, since he refuses to compromise.

Why should the actions of one damage this entire thing? I don't see any good reasons why.

Secondly, GZ, no one is going to accept you, go away. (I wonder why its up to me to air all the GE’s opinions.)

That's Abh's call on if he gets into the GFFA or not (I know because I've done my research back when SQ asked me to join it).

Why should the actions of one damage this entire thing? I don't see any good reasons why.



That's Abh's call on if he gets into the GFFA or not (I know because I've done my research back when SQ asked me to join it).

Because if Godular won't accept other techs, then why should we accept his, and his tech set this off.

@SQ: Fine, I'll just Nova Bomb the system then. No way to recover evidence of my inolvement then.

Actually No Endorse, the Empire has methods to counter Godulars FTLi, but he refuses to accept them, as such, most GE members are wondering why on Earth they should accept anything the GFFA does, since he refuses to compromise.

What methods are these? They may be things that wouldn't effect its operation. If it is, then would Godular please come forewards and explain?

Everything can be beat. Except God and the like, but no one here is claiming Divine Intervention...

Yo.

Yo.

Yeah.. I think Tzeentch qualifies as "Divine Intervention"...

@Germanische Zustande: Register on the GFFA forums and post a message about joining. (That's what SQ told me to do if I ever changed my mind about joining).

Link: http://s14.invisionfree.com/Galactic_Federation/index.php?act=idx

Thankee Kindly.

Yeah.. I think Tzeentch qualifies as "Divine Intervention"...

Whoa... Tzeentch? As in, er, Chaos Demon Lord Guy Thingy from the Eye of Terror?

GLORY TO THE EMPEROR!!!

Er... <_< >_>

Oh dear. I think a few Retributions would be in order.

Whoa... Tzeentch? As in, er, Chaos Demon Lord Guy Thingy from the Eye of Terror?

GLORY TO THE EMPEROR!!!

Er... <_< >_>

Oh dear. I think a few Retributions would be in order.
God, technically. Not Lord. The closest thing to a Lord of the EoT is Abbadon, and he's a pawn. And no, I don't field Tzeentch himself regularly.

It seems I've been ignoring this thread for too long.

This is a one on one alliance fight here and I have made it known to all members that it is so. As regards to new members, the only one that has been added so far is Kyanges because of RPing with him in the past. He was admitted at the beginning of all this and there was enough time for politics to take their place. As for the rest that wish to join, I don't have a problem with letting them go through diplomacy but it will take time and they won't be able to participate until everything is finished. I am highly doubting to let anyone join so quickly. That's how we lost so many members in the first place. *coughs*

US, CW, or whoever the heck you are, you and Chronosia both have my MSN if you need to discuss things more about the GFFA.


Guys we are trying to make this a good RP. If you want to attack someone, work out between each other so this can all be better coordinated.

Sithy is trying to push in the concept that his FTLi can absorb energy from other FTLis with the effective simple flip of a switch.

Imagine the following scenario:

Sithy's FTLi field is presently active around Imperial Planet X. Standard issue 'All-Encompassing FTLi', radius... oh... say... 5 light years. Now imagine that this FTLi field generates a specific waveform of spatial distortion or whateverthefuck it might operate on, which serves to disrupt any attempt at bending or breaking space in order to travel faster than the speed of light.

Imagine then, a massive installation that hippitty hops into existence within the field, samples the waveform of the FTLi field, and then sets to work messing it up all to heck and gone, reinforcing and adding frequencies to the waveform such that the thing is now incapable of being controlled in any precise manner, thereby shutting down any entry corridors and randomized whatzits.

Now, imagine that, in turn, the generator should happen to have a switch that... reverses the flow. This function not only shuts down its own FTLi field, which the destabilizer is constructed to counter by picking up the slack of its own accord, but supposedly operates as a form of energy syphon that somehow manages to drain the offending destabilization device of all of its energy.

Now, disregarding (at first) the notion that in order to take energy from another thing requires a rather physical connection such as a bloody POWER CORD, the fundamental physics of this thing is all wrong. To set the thing on reverse would simply alter the waveform of the FTLi such that it was moved, shall we say, by a simple factor of pi.

I.E. the waveform flips.

Now, realizing that the Destabilizer relies upon the original FTLi field for the nature of its own field, and that flipping the waveform is essentially just creating the EXACT SAME FIELD, the maneuver of Sithy's little switching from 'Blow' to 'Suck' is effectively impossible self-defeating.

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Of course, as a compromise that I offered and Sith seemingly refused to listen to. I did make clear that the Lockdown was not going to hinder the military strength of those GE members who participate in the follow-up war, as Sithy/Imperial Forces would be essentially removed from the conflict and nobody else.

I dunno, he sounded like he took some personal umbrage about it all.

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Now me and Chronosia are trying to work things out and prevent this whole thing from going up in a poof of smoke and wasted effort.

The following conditions are established:

--UFGZ is restricted from participating in any combat threads beyond the one he already entered (the dweledelfia battle). This may or may not be lifted if Chronosia can be satisfactorily assured that the RP will not hearken back to 'The Horror Stories of Old'

I never did see those threads. But I hear they were quite spectacular.

--Klington sticks to me like glue.

--No more combat threads beyond this point. Do not pass go, do not collect two hundred dollars, community chest is off-limits. Das ist verboten. Access Denied. Authorized Personnel Only. Radioactive waste ahead. Men at work. Bridge out. Beware Deer Xing.

Me and Chronosia are gonna try to set up a much more organized and personable combat thread for where things get really blow-up-ish. Or something. I'm just getting a little tired of OOC bickering and so is he. Our little taboo about keeping things secret was not a good move in hindsight, and I'm gonna work to rectify the issue.

Secondly, GZ, no one is going to accept you, go away. (I wonder why its up to me to air all the GE’s opinions.)

Thirdly, people just joining the GFFA to take part in the war is hardly acceptable. It would take months of legislative work, negotiations and public campaigning for any nation to join any major alliance. Your little wank GZ is just a godmode.

I love you too, Sithy.

Now me and Chronosia are trying to work things out and prevent this whole thing from going up in a poof of smoke and wasted effort.

The following conditions are established:

--UFGZ is restricted from participating in any combat threads beyond the one he already entered (the dweledelfia battle). This may or may not be lifted if Chronosia can be satisfactorily assured that the RP will not hearken back to 'The Horror Stories of Old'

I never did see those threads. But I hear they were quite spectacular.

Most of those "Horror Stories of Old" were from my younger days, when I did godmod because I had not yet learned the ins and outs of RPing, or, were because my opponent, whomever that might have been, was absolutely adamant about winning.

You see, every single time the opponent would claim to have better technology. Or say that simply because they were bigger they had to win. Or some other stupid thing. I was never allowed to win. Understandably, in desperation, I would try to come up with some way of circumventing whatever undefeatable technologies they had, only for them to ignore it. That is the reason that so many "Horror Stories" became thus. Because both parties, myself and my enemy, would not accept defeat. In many cases, I just withdrew from the battle and let them have their little victory, because, quite frankly, I was tired of all the degenerating threads.

I do not intend to be the cause of any such thing this time. As you see, you guys have done a pretty good job without me of screwing things up. I rest my case.

Most of those "Horror Stories of Old" were from my younger days, when I did godmod because I had not yet learned the ins and outs of RPing, or, were because my opponent, whomever that might have been, was absolutely adamant about winning.

You see, every single time the opponent would claim to have better technology. Or say that simply because they were bigger they had to win. Or some other stupid thing. I was never allowed to win. Understandably, in desperation, I would try to come up with some way of circumventing whatever undefeatable technologies they had, only for them to ignore it. That is the reason that so many "Horror Stories" became thus. Because both parties, myself and my enemy, would not accept defeat. In many cases, I just withdrew from the battle and let them have their little victory, because, quite frankly, I was tired of all the degenerating threads.

I do not intend to be the cause of any such thing this time. As you see, you guys have done a pretty good job without me of screwing things up. I rest my case.

Well, the reason it's so screwed up is because none of it was discussed with me; barring one bare bones run through. Something of this scale has to be planned and coordinated...

One thing I'd like to see is a thread about Imperial efforts to find a solution to the FTLi trick. There could be a gathering of scientists and engineers, and spying efforts by both sides, and GFFA attempts to disrupt the project, and all sorts of fun stuff. This would give us something going on in the war effort besides people trying to blow each other up. Any one else like the idea?

yes, I would love to see you try and disrupt the project without entering the FTLi field of doom; mmhmm; by the time we crack it, your half-way across our space; 20 years later :P

Actually No Endorse, the Empire has methods to counter Godulars FTLi, but he refuses to accept them, as such, most GE members are wondering why on Earth they should accept anything the GFFA does, since he refuses to compromise.

Secondly, GZ, no one is going to accept you, go away. (I wonder why its up to me to air all the GE’s opinions.)

Thirdly, people just joining the GFFA to take part in the war is hardly acceptable. It would take months of legislative work, negotiations and public campaigning for any nation to join any major alliance. Your little wank GZ is just a godmode.

As for Seaquest, as your military is mostly unavailable right now, why on Earth would you motion for an aggressive campaign?

This RP is going to end up in an Ignore, I can guarantee it……

Sithy your addicted to Nationstates.... hahaha.

Wasn't the whole point of leaving Nationstates because it took up too much of your time and you were addicted to it?
Your slipping on that promise buddy.

But enough with that stuff. Sith we deserve a chance to attack the GE. So why don't you stop fretting and give it to us, if your empire is so great, than you'll beat us all back and your power will be absolute. This is the war to end all wars here, the stakes our high, a few of us are putting our whole fleets on the line, so why don't you just let us get our chance to attack?

Well, the reason it's so screwed up is because none of it was discussed with me; barring one bare bones run through. Something of this scale has to be planned and coordinated...

I completely agree.

Can i get a link to the Talaax front please.

Can i get a link to the Talaax front please.

Dude, we're still fighting his fleet in your Home System. You're going to send ships to attack him?

Dude, we're still fighting his fleet in your Home System. You're going to send ships to attack him?

After we dipose of him as i said i just need a link my bookmarks were wiped.

Sithy is trying to push in the concept that his FTLi can absorb energy from other FTLis with the effective simple flip of a switch.

Imagine the following scenario:

Sithy's FTLi field is presently active around Imperial Planet X. Standard issue 'All-Encompassing FTLi', radius... oh... say... 5 light years. Now imagine that this FTLi field generates a specific waveform of spatial distortion or whateverthefuck it might operate on, which serves to disrupt any attempt at bending or breaking space in order to travel faster than the speed of light.

Imagine then, a massive installation that hippitty hops into existence within the field, samples the waveform of the FTLi field, and then sets to work messing it up all to heck and gone, reinforcing and adding frequencies to the waveform such that the thing is now incapable of being controlled in any precise manner, thereby shutting down any entry corridors and randomized whatzits.

Now, imagine that, in turn, the generator should happen to have a switch that... reverses the flow. This function not only shuts down its own FTLi field, which the destabilizer is constructed to counter by picking up the slack of its own accord, but supposedly operates as a form of energy syphon that somehow manages to drain the offending destabilization device of all of its energy.

Now, disregarding (at first) the notion that in order to take energy from another thing requires a rather physical connection such as a bloody POWER CORD, the fundamental physics of this thing is all wrong. To set the thing on reverse would simply alter the waveform of the FTLi such that it was moved, shall we say, by a simple factor of pi.

I.E. the waveform flips.

Now, realizing that the Destabilizer relies upon the original FTLi field for the nature of its own field, and that flipping the waveform is essentially just creating the EXACT SAME FIELD, the maneuver of Sithy's little switching from 'Blow' to 'Suck' is effectively impossible self-defeating.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Of course, as a compromise that I offered and Sith seemingly refused to listen to. I did make clear that the Lockdown was not going to hinder the military strength of those GE members who participate in the follow-up war, as Sithy/Imperial Forces would be essentially removed from the conflict and nobody else.

I dunno, he sounded like he took some personal umbrage about it all.

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Now me and Chronosia are trying to work things out and prevent this whole thing from going up in a poof of smoke and wasted effort.

The following conditions are established:

--UFGZ is restricted from participating in any combat threads beyond the one he already entered (the dweledelfia battle). This may or may not be lifted if Chronosia can be satisfactorily assured that the RP will not hearken back to 'The Horror Stories of Old'

I never did see those threads. But I hear they were quite spectacular.

--Klington sticks to me like glue.

--No more combat threads beyond this point. Do not pass go, do not collect two hundred dollars, community chest is off-limits. Das ist verboten. Access Denied. Authorized Personnel Only. Radioactive waste ahead. Men at work. Bridge out. Beware Deer Xing.

Me and Chronosia are gonna try to set up a much more organized and personable combat thread for where things get really blow-up-ish. Or something. I'm just getting a little tired of OOC bickering and so is he. Our little taboo about keeping things secret was not a good move in hindsight, and I'm gonna work to rectify the issue.

Yeah I stick with you like glue, that is till I backstab you and take your countries riches! MUHAHAHA!
jk.

Yeah I stick with you like glue, that is till I backstab you and take your countries riches! MUHAHAHA!
jk.

*cry*

I'll give you five bucks if you do.

*cry*
What, your riches aren't all rigged to self-destruct if stolen?

What, your riches aren't all rigged to self-destruct if stolen?

MINE WERE!!!!!!

Okay, Chronosia I posted the map.

I'll give you five bucks if you do.
Make it 20 and give me an anti-adhesive

What, your riches aren't all rigged to self-destruct if stolen?

Actually they are. The robots are also programmed to destroy every sentient being they can get to before being disabled... then THEY self-destruct.

As I thought. So you just have to make sure to armor your back, and you've got nothing to worry about.

My riches are possessed; they'll goad you to unfathomable evil then smother you in sleep; many a night have I awoken, drowning gold and lucre; stradled by an enormous diamond....*drifts off into incoherent Slaaneshi mumblings and mewlings*

My riches are possessed; they'll goad you to unfathomable evil then smother you in sleep; many a night have I awoken, drowning gold and lucre; stradled by an enormous diamond....*drifts off into incoherent Slaaneshi mumblings and mewlings*

lol...
There is nothing happy in your country is there? Even being rich is a bad thing!

Huh, my riches are just guarded. How boring. I need better riches.
(continued grumbling)

Huh, my riches are just guarded. How boring. I need better riches.
(continued grumbling)
lol. My country doesn't have riches. *Goes into sappy speech about how the riches of his country are the hard-working little man*

"Riches? What Riches?"

-Minister of the Treasury, when questioned about missing funds.

@SQ: Fine, I'll just Nova Bomb the system then. No way to recover evidence of my inolvement then.

Dude, listen to the head of your alliance and stop trying to bring the U.E.O. into this war. And stop treating this like a "Biggus Dickus" contest.

Dude, listen to the head of your alliance and stop trying to bring the U.E.O. into this war. And stop treating this like a "Biggus Dickus" contest.
1: greatest movie
2: calm down



As for riches: those were long ago confiscated and given to the Navy.

Dude, listen to the head of your alliance and stop trying to bring the U.E.O. into this war. And stop treating this like a "Biggus Dickus" contest.

biggus missus

biggus missus
Nonono, his wife is Incontinentia Buttocks.

He's a genewal, the highest wanking in all of Wome!

He's a genewal, the highest wanking in all of Wome!

LMAO

Okay, I'm lost now. What movie are you talking about?

"We are the Judean People's Front crack suicide squad!" ::stab::



SQ, it's 'Life of Brian' by Montey Python. You should be ashamed that you have never seen that movie.

EDIT:He's a genewal, the highest wanking in all of Wome!
XD best part!

"Urgh, that'll show them...." *dies*

"Wolf nipples! Get your fried wolf nipples! They're lovely!"

Always look on the bright side of life! *whistles*

I'm Brian and so's my Wife!

"it's His Gord!"

EDIT: I love how the content of this thread has changed ^_^

I always preferred Holy Grail to tell the truth, but I';m American, so, what do I know?

"They call me... Tim."

No Endorse: Not many OOC issues at the moment, so have to do something to keep us busy. :p

"We can't risk another frontal assault. That rabbit's DYNAMITE!"

No Endorse: Not many OOC issues at the moment, so have to do something to keep us busy. :p

"We can't risk another frontal assault. That rabbit's DYNAMITE!"


"Some have called me... Tim?"

Mortal, I have you beaten! Pick a Python movie, any Python movie, and I shall quote at you! Bwahahaha!

Mortal, I have you beaten! Pick a Python movie, any Python movie, and I shall quote at you! Bwahahaha!

I forget which episode of the flying circus:

"This is an EX-parrot! It has ceased to be!"

;) Bring it (too bad I haven't seen the meaning of life yet)

Prefer the Three Stooges myself.

Of course, that's enough off-topic stuff. Now back to your regularly scheduled program, the G.E.-G.F.F.A. War.

We're Knights of the Round Table.
We dance whene'er we're able.
We do routines and chorus scenes
With footwork impeccable.

We dine well here in Camelot.
We eat ham and jam and spam a lot.

We're Knights of the Round Table.
Our shows are formidable,
But many times we're given rhymes
That are quite unsingable.

We're opera mad in Camelot.
We sing from the diaphragm a lot.

In war we're tough and able,
Quite indefatigable.
Between our quests we sequin vests
And impersonate Clark Gable.

It's a busy life in Camelot.
(Solo) I have to push the pram a lot.

;) Bring it (too bad I haven't seen the meaning of life yet)

"We are a pair of lunatics escaped from a Bengali psychiatric institution by making this tiger costume from discarded cereal packets- no, that's not it either."

Godular: Don't make me sing the entire script of Spamalot.

"We are a pair of lunatics escaped from a Bengali psychiatric institution by making this tiger costume from discarded cereal packets- no, that's not it either."

Godular: Don't make me sing the entire script of Spamalot.
I concede on that note... if that can be even called a musical note! :p

You get a cookie just for that quote above. I go to bed now. Goodnight fair prince, flights of oreos and chips ahoy sing thee to thy stomache! ::Cookie with Red Rain::

Sithy is trying to push in the concept that his FTLi can absorb energy from other FTLis with the effective simple flip of a switch.

Imagine the following scenario:

Sithy's FTLi field is presently active around Imperial Planet X. Standard issue 'All-Encompassing FTLi', radius... oh... say... 5 light years. Now imagine that this FTLi field generates a specific waveform of spatial distortion or whateverthefuck it might operate on, which serves to disrupt any attempt at bending or breaking space in order to travel faster than the speed of light.

Imagine then, a massive installation that hippitty hops into existence within the field, samples the waveform of the FTLi field, and then sets to work messing it up all to heck and gone, reinforcing and adding frequencies to the waveform such that the thing is now incapable of being controlled in any precise manner, thereby shutting down any entry corridors and randomized whatzits.

Now, imagine that, in turn, the generator should happen to have a switch that... reverses the flow. This function not only shuts down its own FTLi field, which the destabilizer is constructed to counter by picking up the slack of its own accord, but supposedly operates as a form of energy syphon that somehow manages to drain the offending destabilization device of all of its energy.

Now, disregarding (at first) the notion that in order to take energy from another thing requires a rather physical connection such as a bloody POWER CORD, the fundamental physics of this thing is all wrong. To set the thing on reverse would simply alter the waveform of the FTLi such that it was moved, shall we say, by a simple factor of pi.

I.E. the waveform flips.

Now, realizing that the Destabilizer relies upon the original FTLi field for the nature of its own field, and that flipping the waveform is essentially just creating the EXACT SAME FIELD, the maneuver of Sithy's little switching from 'Blow' to 'Suck' is effectively impossible self-defeating.

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Of course, as a compromise that I offered and Sith seemingly refused to listen to. I did make clear that the Lockdown was not going to hinder the military strength of those GE members who participate in the follow-up war, as Sithy/Imperial Forces would be essentially removed from the conflict and nobody else.

I dunno, he sounded like he took some personal umbrage about it all.



First of all, most of your technology is simply impossible and since this is Future Tech, well anything is possible provided there is a sufficient wank explanation.

To reinforce the Dimensional wall and warp the fabric of space time to keep your FTLi in existence you must pump extra energy into the Dimensional wall. As such you are increasing the energy in the wall above the natural norm. I’m saying that since the GE’s FTLi work by pumping energy in to space time and FTLi’s is actually possible to absorb energy from the Wall itself, thereby rendering your little ploy null and void, as the energy you exert is simply drained away, leaving the wall at its normal. Essentialy, I invisage it as you attempting to fill up a bath, however the Imperial FTLi’s are simply draining all the water you put in.

I maintain its valid, and your continued refute of anyone elses technology or idea is just another example of a little tech miser you are.

Secondly, you have no right to say what is and is not possible in FUTURE TECH, where people throw around black holes, nova suns, have 20km long capital ships, and work by travelling through time and alternate dimensions. You have no right in FREEFORM roleplay.

Thirdly, Godular, when was the last time you were ever defeated? When was the last time you ever made a concession on technology? I can name many when Chron made concessions, he’s been making them repeatedly throughout this thread, you, HAVE NOT

Finally, yes, I have been taking this personally, as you have been taking the ever patient Chronosia for a ride. You refuse to accept a concession ever where the possibility of you losing is even in the horizon. Your such a little Godmoder and Wankfester.

This party still got room for one more?? Warshrike of the U.E.O. here.

p.s. WE ARE THE KNIGHT'S WHO SAY NI!!

I'd just like to win one bloody war. Just one.

>_<

<----sick of losing in every single major combat

Your such a little Godmoder and Wankfester.
Just when this thread was getting slightly more civil. :rolleyes: Using such language not only hurts your case, but probably encourages prospective newbies to stay AWAY from the GE. (not that this whole argument doesn't already encourage everyone to stay away from large alliances)

To reinforce the Dimensional wall and warp the fabric of space time to keep your FTLi in existence you must pump extra energy into the Dimensional wall. As such you are increasing the energy in the wall above the natural norm. I’m saying that since the GE’s FTLi work by pumping energy in to space time and FTLi’s is actually possible to absorb energy from the Wall itself, thereby rendering your little ploy null and void, as the energy you exert is simply drained away, leaving the wall at its normal. Essentialy, I invisage it as you attempting to fill up a bath, however the Imperial FTLi’s are simply draining all the water you put in.
Wait, you're saying that an emmitter designed to pump a ton of energy into space-time is capable of absorbing all of the ambient energy around it? That's like saying a lightbulb can absorb all of the light in a room, or a speaker can absorb all of the sound around it! Almost like saying a machine guna can absorb all of the bullets fired in a half-mile radius.

You can shade the far side of your systems maybe, but you can't claim the ability to use your FTLi to supress other FTLi BLANKET. Maybe if you'd invested in an FTLi supressor.



There is actually another way your idea can work now that I think about it. Use your FTLi to emmit energy at the exact opposite frequency and at the exact power of Godular's. So long as he stays locked to one freq and power level, you can cancel it out. And yet again, why not just jump the DS and a whole warfleet in there, and start jumping in and out over and over? You'd overload him!

Don't say it's invincible, because it isn't.

(not that this whole argument doesn't already encourage everyone to stay away from large alliances)

You mad, right?? Thats WHY I wanna be in a big alliance!!

This party still got room for one more?? Warshrike of the U.E.O. here.

p.s. WE ARE THE KNIGHT'S WHO SAY NI!!

Lol. This time I didn't ask him directly. So, don't go yelling at me, US.

You know, its amusing when you prove me so bloody right, Sithy. I did say it. I did say "You know its truuuuuuuue what they say, nobody ever really quits."

First of all, most of your technology is simply impossible and since this is Future Tech, well anything is possible provided there is a sufficient wank explanation.

My technologies take into account the various rules of physics that I have learned throughout my time in college. I get around the rules when I need to, I don't break them. There are places even I won't go, such as Temporal tech. The only things I do are related to blurry areas in physical science, where there's still room to work.

Sci-Fi may be fiction, but its also supposed to make people think. There is a concept of possibility inherent to sci-fi where it brings out ideas that we haven't really thought about or at the present time lack the capacity to explore.

My tech is improbable, not impossible, same as any Sci-Fi tech SHOULD be.

To reinforce the Dimensional wall and warp the fabric of space time to keep your FTLi in existence you must pump extra energy into the Dimensional wall.

And that is where your fundamental misunderstanding of the concept manifests. Like any waveform effect, the energy directly manifests from the source, not IN the waveform. You can't syphon energy from the source of a wave when only in contact with the wave itself. You are not in contact with the generator. You are in contact with the effect. Thereby therefore your percieved answer is pointless.

As such you are increasing the energy in the wall above the natural norm. I’m saying that since the GE’s FTLi work by pumping energy in to space time and FTLi’s is actually possible to absorb energy from the Wall itself, thereby rendering your little ploy null and void, as the energy you exert is simply drained away, leaving the wall at its normal. Essentialy, I invisage it as you attempting to fill up a bath, however the Imperial FTLi’s are simply draining all the water you put in.

Your own metaphor fails. The proper usage would be to say you're trying to suck the ocean out with a straw while I'm slapping the surface making waves. One does not affect the other.

I maintain its valid, and your continued refute of anyone elses technology or idea is just another example of a little tech miser you are.

And you're incorrect. Not because it goes against my tech, but because your explanation is fundamentally flawed. You can't suck the air out of the lungs of a screaming person by breathing in.

Secondly, you have no right to say what is and is not possible in FUTURE TECH, where people throw around black holes, nova suns, have 20km long capital ships, and work by travelling through time and alternate dimensions. You have no right in FREEFORM roleplay.

Incorrect. I have every right. Same as you have the right to challenge me. But your argument better be damn good, homeboy. And at this point in time, it ain't.

If people can explain their tech properly, I have no problem. Its when somebody says that some tech of theirs does Randomized Act of Uberosity That Directly Breaks X-Physical Rule with no explanation as to how it achieves such a move that I'll pop in and ask them how it achieves such things, as it is in the information that understanding is achieved.

Just because its Freeform roleplay does not mean there is not a set of rules to go by.

Thirdly, Godular, when was the last time you were ever defeated? When was the last time you ever made a concession on technology? I can name many when Chron made concessions, he’s been making them repeatedly throughout this thread, you, HAVE NOT

First, the war over Klington. The one where everything went to shitsville while I was in Astrophysics class. I was prolly gonna lose that thing anyway. Klington surrendering after the loss of one ship while I was learning how to tell the mass of the stars in a binary system based on their orbits kinda startled me.

Second, I make concessions in my technology all the time, but I will ONLY do it if there is a damn good reason to do so. If it is a legitimate point, which yours is not, then I will very easily make the alteration. Besides, I do so much research that oftentimes the whole issue becomes moot.

Finally, yes, I have been taking this personally, as you have been taking the ever patient Chronosia for a ride. You refuse to accept a concession ever where the possibility of you losing is even in the horizon. Your such a little Godmoder and Wankfester.

Sticks and stones. Coming from you as these comments are, I'm not insulted at all.

Edited to add: Oh, and everybody, no more additions and bandwagon hop-ons please. I ask this of everybody on my side. No temporary alliance membership or allowing third parties to hoppity hop in. Me and Chrono are working on an equitable final sequence.

And you're incorrect. Not because it goes against my tech, but because your explanation is fundamentally flawed. You can't suck the air out of the lungs of a screaming person by breathing in.

Why not? If your lungs are that much more powerful than the other person's and you are directly connected... I don't see why you couldn't.

They aren't though. You can hear the guy screaming, thereby feeling the energy that he is putting out. But you can't do the opposite of what he is doing, I.E. inhaling, and suck the air from the guy's lungs just because you're within earshot.

To do what Sithy says, and in keeping with the metaphor, he'd have to attach a vacuum to the screamer's face. THAT'S a direct connection.

DMG, That's a lot like saying that your lightbulb can absorb all of the energy my lightbulb puts out, even when they're three meters away from each other.

Think of the FTLi generators like lightbulbs. Your planetary one is like a light in the center of a table. You can locally put a small object in it to make a shadow and allow FTL travel. However, you can also set up another light bulb nearby to illuminate some of the shadows, or cast them in different directions. That's all he's doing.

You can do 2 things in this instance that would actually work: use your own FTLi to generate an inhibitor field at the exact opposite freqency, canceling his out OR, try to overload it with a huge ammount of ships trying to jump in and out.

DMG, That's a lot like saying that your lightbulb can absorb all of the energy my lightbulb puts out, even when they're three meters away from each other.

Think of the FTLi generators like lightbulbs. Your planetary one is like a light in the center of a table. You can locally put a small object in it to make a shadow and allow FTL travel. However, you can also set up another light bulb nearby to illuminate some of the shadows, or cast them in different directions. That's all he's doing.

You can do 2 things in this instance that would actually work: use your own FTLi to generate an inhibitor field at the exact opposite freqency, canceling his out OR, try to overload it with a huge ammount of ships trying to jump in and out.

First of all... I am not actually arguing the point; only that his analogy didn't quite work.

However, the analogy you provided (compared to mine, not the FTLi), is not in fact analogous. The difference is that lungs have the ability to pull in or push out [air], while lightbulbs can only do the latter.

NE: Well, truth be told, Trying to overload it in that manner is also assuming, however indirectly, that the actions upon the waveform directly affects the generator.

DMG: And the analogy does work, I think you just misunderstood a small aspect. Without direct contact with the generator of the waveform, you cannot drain the energy from the generator itself.

DMG: And the analogy does work, I think you just misunderstood a small aspect. Without direct contact with the generator of the waveform, you cannot drain the energy from the generator itself.

Uh... I believe that I said I was not comparing his analogy to that of the actual issue (the FTLi), but rather to mine... which was a comment on yours. I also said when they are in direct contact.

Which is the key point.

They AREN'T.

Which is the key point.

They AREN'T.

Perhaps I should re-quote what you and I said:

And you're incorrect. Not because it goes against my tech, but because your explanation is fundamentally flawed. You can't suck the air out of the lungs of a screaming person by breathing in.

I said... yes it is possible if they are in direct contact.

All I was saying is that your exact words were not completely correct. My point was that in that instance you did not specify that they couldn't be in contact... if you don't understand my point, drop it.

I do understand your point. In the vein of my previous commentary, you should have been able to note that I was not speaking in the case of being latched onto the other guy's face like a lamprey.

o_O mmk... I'm confused past the point of confusion. ::drops point::

Sorry :(

First of all, most of your technology is simply impossible and since this is Future Tech, well anything is possible provided there is a sufficient wank explanation.

To reinforce the Dimensional wall and warp the fabric of space time to keep your FTLi in existence you must pump extra energy into the Dimensional wall. As such you are increasing the energy in the wall above the natural norm. I’m saying that since the GE’s FTLi work by pumping energy in to space time and FTLi’s is actually possible to absorb energy from the Wall itself, thereby rendering your little ploy null and void, as the energy you exert is simply drained away, leaving the wall at its normal. Essentialy, I invisage it as you attempting to fill up a bath, however the Imperial FTLi’s are simply draining all the water you put in.

I maintain its valid, and your continued refute of anyone elses technology or idea is just another example of a little tech miser you are.

Secondly, you have no right to say what is and is not possible in FUTURE TECH, where people throw around black holes, nova suns, have 20km long capital ships, and work by travelling through time and alternate dimensions. You have no right in FREEFORM roleplay.

Thirdly, Godular, when was the last time you were ever defeated? When was the last time you ever made a concession on technology? I can name many when Chron made concessions, he’s been making them repeatedly throughout this thread, you, HAVE NOT

Finally, yes, I have been taking this personally, as you have been taking the ever patient Chronosia for a ride. You refuse to accept a concession ever where the possibility of you losing is even in the horizon. Your such a little Godmoder and Wankfester.

Easy with the name calling, before this descends into madness.

Hey you didn't reply to my post... :( I feel unloved.

Easy with the name calling, before this descends into madness.

Hey you didn't reply to my post... :( I feel unloved.

I already think it has. This was supposed to be an uber-RP arc, but it has degenerated into just another 'slug fest.'

This was supposed to be an uber-RP arc, but it has degenerated into just another 'slug fest.'

I kinda agree. Not only with fleets, but "verbaly" kinda as well.


U.S. and Godular:

Do you two know eachother RL and don't get along, or is there something else that has happened deep in ancient NS history that causes these sorts of things to happen?

Apart from when Sithy rp'd destroying my nation in a supposed 'Alternate Reality' thing without even asking for my permission to do so, even though it was of little more than token importance, and then refused to alter it accordingly when I said he most definitely did NOT have permission to do so, There wouldn't be much bad blood between us.

I think its more due to the fact that we're both ridiculously stubborn.

I think its more due to the fact that we're both ridiculously stubborn.

Heh... I got a good chucle out of this. :p

'S true though. Which may or may not make it somewhat funnier.

And the important fact, that I’m right and you are wrong ^_^

Apart from when Sithy rp'd destroying my nation in a supposed 'Alternate Reality' thing without even asking for my permission to do so, even though it was of little more than token importance, and then refused to alter it accordingly when I said he most definitely did NOT have permission to do so, There wouldn't be much bad blood between us.

I think its more due to the fact that we're both ridiculously stubborn.

Alternate universe? Wha....? Why in the name of Benjamin Franklin's spinning grave did this happen?