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Space Union Economic Crisis OOC Thread

Space Union
22-01-2006, 04:16
Here's the OOC thread for that thread. I want all IC posts in that thread and all OOC posts here. Thank You. :) I'll also keep the Bidding Status up-to-date in here. :)

Bidding Status:

Manston Naval Works: $1.34 trillion - Guffingford
Empire Banking Group: $4.5 billion - Praetonia
Langely Computer Corporation: $25 billion - Halberdgardia
Sikh Telecommuncational Company: $10 billion - Pacitalia
Terizon (Phone/Internet Company): $10 billion - Pacitalia
Yerishin Refinement Corporation (Oil/Gas): $200 billion - Skinny87
Industrial Waste Ink. (trash/filth desposer): $500,000,000 - Skinny87
Shav Monetary Bank: $24,055,680,000- Azazia
Linto Creek Water Corporation :$3 billion - Skinny87
Gerdiv Uranium Mining Corporation: $750 billion - Sarzonia
Zeros Electric Ink. (Electricity Producer): $160 million - Halberdgardia
Trekin (Processor Chip producer): $230 billion - Skinny87
Loudon-Krie Corp. (Automobile Maker): $250 billion - Pacitalia/Sarzonia


*Note: Ones that still have parentheses have not been bidded for.
*Note2: If some company has one nation vs another nation, that means both of those companies had the same amount bidded for that company.
Amestria
22-01-2006, 04:20
OOC: Sorry, but I'm not going to allow you to make bids in this. ICly we are very different and it wouldn't be right for me to allow someone with opposing ideas to have any influence in my economy, whatsoever. Sorry, nothing personal, though. :(


OOC: Then make an IC post rejecting the Amestrian bid, geez... Don't just reject/ignore my IC for OOC reasons.
Pacitalia
22-01-2006, 04:21
OOC: Avea is a company IRL (http://www.avea.com.tr), but yes, the Peruzzi, Bluefox Studios and ABNAmro logos were made by me.
Space Union
22-01-2006, 04:26
OOC: Avea is a company IRL (http://www.avea.com.tr), but yes, the Peruzzi, Bluefox Studios and ABNAmro logos were made by me.
So you made the logos now? They are pretty nice. :p

Amestria: I havent' got the time yet to do an IC post. I'll post one soon with some other stuff.
Halberdgardia
22-01-2006, 04:29
SU, I hope you don't mind if I continue my OOC posts. If you want IC at some point, let me know.

Note: when I say "we," I'm referring to Consolidated Arms, Inc.

Anyways, we'll be countering the Pacitalian bid for Langely, upping our own bid to $3.25 billion.

Additionally, we'll be raising our bid for Manston Naval Works to $3.75 billion.
Azazia
22-01-2006, 04:46
You know, as a graphic design major, I probably should be creating logos for my companies... but then again I don't take corporate identity classes until next year, that and doing logos and typo for fun is so damn difficult after doing logos and typo for school.

I'll get around to it at some point... anyways, just thought I'd say as GD major, the logos aren't bad, aren't bad at all.
Space Union
22-01-2006, 06:09
Updated. :) Also check out the IC thread, a news article from me. :)
Amestria
22-01-2006, 06:12
Just to OOC point out, Amestria has a better history of human rights then Mckagan and Hal.
Southeastasia
22-01-2006, 09:35
The chances of SU listening to you Amestria ICly is a trillion in favor of Halberdgardia/McKagan and you...absolutely nothing. Why? Because Space Union is a member of the Saharistan War Coalition!
Amestria
22-01-2006, 09:41
The chances of SU listening to you Amestria ICly is a trillion in favor of Halberdgardia/McKagan and you...absolutely nothing. Why? Because Space Union is a member of the Saharistan War Coalition!

You are the master of stating the obvious in an annoying fashion.
Space Union
22-01-2006, 17:50
Updated with latest bids:

1) Southeastasia: I didn't include your bid because your company is partly owned by the state which goes against my rules. Sorry.
2) Everyone - Are any of your companies state-owned? Is the government allowed to buy any shares in the companies? Does the government influence the companies direct policies (I don't care about like blacklisting influence)? If your answer to all these are no, then your cleared. If your answer is yes to one or more of these questions, than we will have to talk.
Spizania
22-01-2006, 18:28
1)No
2)No
3)No
Sarzonia
22-01-2006, 18:44
You are the master of stating the obvious in an annoying fashion.Could you do everyone a favour and keep the flamebaiting out of the thread?

And sometimes, people only respond OOCly if they ICly ignore someone for whatever reason. OOC dislike of someone's a pretty good reason for that.
Space Union
22-01-2006, 18:44
Spizania is cleared.

Updated with Sarzonia's bids.
Space Union
22-01-2006, 19:52
Updated with Hal's bids. Also guys I'll need you to answer those questions. Background check. :p
The Gupta Dynasty
22-01-2006, 20:11
No for all of mine, to all of mine.
The Lone Alliance
22-01-2006, 20:14
(Actually the WACI isn't 'run' by the state actually)

1. Not the WACI. Everything else yes.
2. Stock isn't able to be used by the government, too much chances of 'losing' funds.
3. Case by Case basis. (There is a government overwatch group, that will intervene if it is time for drastic action)

(If you need me I'll explain it more clearly by TG if you ask)
Pacitalia
22-01-2006, 20:32
OOC: These bids are getting horribly outrageous... $85bn for a car company? $500bn for a uranium mining corporation? $80bn for a processor chip producer? Let's get reasonable, folks. These companies are not worth that much.
The Gupta Dynasty
22-01-2006, 20:37
OOC:*wink*. I've got an excuse - it'a hard to have a worse mining sector than the Yaforites have. :D
Guffingford
22-01-2006, 20:40
I'm only driving up the price, me and Spacer have made a special deal. Which is by far a lot more interesting than all of these no-good cheap investments.
Space Union
22-01-2006, 20:40
Yafor2: Cleared. :)

TLA: Sorry, I'm not allowing any government influence in companies to be allowed to bid. If you wish to continue this, just TG me. :)

Pac: Hehehe, hey its the market, though some of them (the $500 billion) might be a little overinflated. But that doesn't really matter, its how you guys bid. :p
Space Union
22-01-2006, 20:51
Updated with Guff's and Pac's new bids. :)
Spizania
22-01-2006, 20:54
Im actually ahead in the bidding for Manston Naval Works, i bid 25.1bn USD to his 25bn
Space Union
22-01-2006, 20:56
Im actually ahead in the bidding for Manston Naval Works, i bid 25.1bn USD to his 25bn

Oops, editted that.
The Lone Alliance
22-01-2006, 21:16
OOC: Doesn't mean I can't make fake bids and jack up the price until no one wants them, mwa ha ha ha!
Kravania
22-01-2006, 21:23
(OOC)

I presume these bids are for takeovers of the companies as a whole?

Can Kravania take an equity in these companies, Im looking to buy an equity in a number of these companies, providing you lot are allowing a number of different investors to take a stake in any given company?
Space Union
22-01-2006, 22:09
Updated with Sarzonia's bids.

Kravania: To keep things simple, I'm just doing biddings. Sorry.
Halberdgardia
22-01-2006, 22:10
Background check time!

1.) Are any of your companies state-owned? Consolidated Arms is not state-owned.

2.) Is the government allowed to buy any shares in the companies? No. Though Consolidated Arms does a lot of business with the Halberdgardian government (more specifically, the armed forces), dealing shares is not part of it.

3.) Does the government influence the companies direct policies (I don't care about like blacklisting influence)? Only in blacklisting belligerent nations. Otherwise, no.
Space Union
22-01-2006, 22:12
Updated with Hal's and Skinny's bids. :)
Space Union
22-01-2006, 22:13
Background check time!

1.) Are any of your companies state-owned? Consolidated Arms is not state-owned.

2.) Is the government allowed to buy any shares in the companies? No. Though Consolidated Arms does a lot of business with the Halberdgardian government (more specifically, the armed forces), dealing shares is not part of it.

3.) Does the government influence the companies direct policies (I don't care about like blacklisting influence)? Only in blacklisting belligerent nations. Otherwise, no.

You are approved. :)
Skinny87
22-01-2006, 22:19
Background Check

Background check time!

1.) Are any of your companies state-owned? Republican Incorporated Systems is not state-owned.

2.) Is the government allowed to buy any shares in the companies? No. Though RIS does a lot of business with the Skinny87 government (more specifically, the armed forces), dealing shares is not part of it. Craig Lockhart, CEO of RIS, is bitterly anti-government

3.) Does the government influence the companies direct policies (I don't care about like blacklisting influence)? Not at all. RIS has constantly fought the government in any blacklisting ideals. In fact, it has often been rumoured that the RIS has more influence in some areas than the government does, especially after the Civil War...
Kravania
22-01-2006, 22:20
(OOC)

Hal:

Are you thinking of selling equity in any of your nation's companies???

I would be the 1st to buy up a stake in them, whether they be your defence companies or civlian ones, like energy/food/retail/transportation etc...

Kravania just bought 10,000 shares in DMG Military Industries.

Instead of fighting wars I cannot win or pissing off the entire globe, Im going for a new strategy.

Expand Kravania's power economically speaking, buying shares everywhere and setting up corporations in other nations etc...
Skinny87
22-01-2006, 22:22
OOC: SU, could you do another post detailing the latest bids on the last IC page? I get lost wading through the other pages? Thanks. :)
Space Union
22-01-2006, 22:30
All is updated.

Skinny: Don't worry, the first post in this thread is always up-to-date. If I'm online, I update it the next minute after a new bid. :)

Kravania: Please keep off-topic discussion out of this thread. Thank You. :)
Skinny87
22-01-2006, 22:48
OOC: If yopu check the page before last in the IC page, I updated my bid for Loudon-Krie Corp to $97 Billion, Su. Thanks.
Pacitalia
22-01-2006, 23:04
Sarz, I thought Estrella was going to be spun off, but that it hadn't been yet. Cos I was going to say, if you were bidding for the car company, Peruzzi would then just sit tight.
Pacitalia
22-01-2006, 23:10
Sarz, I just had a great idea - check your TGs.
Space Union
22-01-2006, 23:13
OOC: Hey, guys to make life easier (well 99% mine :p ) don't put any of those package stuff, just put straightforward bids. Yeah I know I suck but I have a life too. ;)
Space Union
22-01-2006, 23:17
Updated till Pacitalia. :)
Space Union
22-01-2006, 23:18
Updated till Pacitalia. :)

Nevermind, till Spizania. ;)
Space Union
22-01-2006, 23:21
Updated. (Oddly no one has bid for Zeros Electric Ink (electrical company) and the trash disposer company (which you could use if you want to place radioactive material into storage or something).)
Space Union
22-01-2006, 23:23
Once again updated. Damn you guys are going so fast! I bet when I post this message you guys will have made another bid. :p
Pacitalia
22-01-2006, 23:37
SU, you missed my bid for MNW (it's under the joint Peruzzi-Estrella bid).
Space Union
22-01-2006, 23:54
Got it. :)
Space Union
23-01-2006, 00:01
Updated.

Azazia: Hey, just to keep things simple, I'm just going to have bidding for controlling shares in the companies. Later on you can talk about buying some shares with the winner of the bid. :)
Space Union
23-01-2006, 00:11
Updated. :)
Space Union
23-01-2006, 01:22
Updated. :)
Space Union
23-01-2006, 22:52
Updated. :)
Pacitalia
23-01-2006, 23:00
If our bid for the automaker is accepted, SU, we're going to ask for exclusive auto industry manufacturing rights for 10 IC years - not permanent, since you said you didn't want a monopoly.
The Beltway
23-01-2006, 23:03
Sorry for jumping in late; I hadn't heard about this until now. We'll withdraw our bids if you prefer.
Pacitalia
23-01-2006, 23:16
Sorry for jumping in late; I hadn't heard about this until now. We'll withdraw our bids if you prefer.

Hey there - check above: SU is not accepting minority-stake bids yet, he wants you to buy those from the bid winner.
The Beltway
23-01-2006, 23:28
Sorry, didn't see that. The minority-stakes bid is withdrawn; the other bid, for the waste-disposal company, stands.
The Beltway
23-01-2006, 23:35
Background Check:
Are any of your companies state-owned? No.
Is the government allowed to buy any shares in the companies? Not any more, due to concerns of corruption.
Does the government influence the companies' direct policies? No.
Amestria
23-01-2006, 23:38
SU, what if very small Amestrian companies where to begin buying up unimportant niche industries which had little if any political/socio-economic influence (but make a fair bit of money). Would you veto that?
Southeastasia
25-01-2006, 14:35
To the point where it has a say? I don't think so.