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The Quasi-War - Sign-Up / OOC Thread

Kordo
21-01-2006, 21:26
Alright, this is my first attempt to get a widescale RP going so please bare with me. The main plot of this RP would revolves around two top-secret Kordoan military projects: Project Kormoran and Project Chameleon which are detailed in the next post.

The basic premise is that someone siezes control of these weapons either a terrorist group or a nation looking to use the projects for their own devices. Then there would be the nations who are trying to destroy the weapons either for the greater good or because their one of the targets of the weapons. Kordo of course is trying to stop it if only unofficially. I'm thinking this would be mostly based around small teams of combat personal, again either from a terrorist/extremist group or from a specific nation.

Note: Project Kormoran and Project Chameleon are not my original ideas and are based on Projects of the same name in Mathew Reilly's book 'Scarecrow'
Kordo
21-01-2006, 21:26
Project Kormoran
Named after the Kriegsmarine cruiser Kormoran (http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ships/auxcruiser/kormoran/) which was disguised as a freighter, Project Kormoran currently consists of twenty seaborne large-scale missile-launch platforms disguised as freighters and other large civilian ships (none of which are Kordoan in origin). This program is designed to allow Kordo to strike with impunity at any country it wishes without a threat of the ships being discovered or Kordo being implicated in the attack. Ten of these ships are currently capable of holding, at minimum, four Chameleon Class ICBMs per ship along with other standard missiles, while the rest are to have the said capability by the end of 2006. (See Project Chameleon for details of Chameleon Class ICBM’s)

Project Chameleon
Project Chameleon, begun in late 2004, is a project whereby Kordo Nuclear Missile Command clones nuclear ICBM’s and other nuclear devices of various countries, both friendly and hostile. This has been done so by combining nuclear materials from said nations, along with missiles designed to their specific specifications. This project has been designed to allow Project Kormoran to fire nuclear ICBM’s that do not have any connection to Kordo, or its armed forces. While the use of these weapons, or their creation, would have severe consequences for Kordo if discovered, it has been deemed an acceptable risk by President Jack Kordo II and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Recently, Emperor Rick Kordo has also given his support for the projects and has given the okay to expand the project to include more nations
Kordo
22-01-2006, 17:21
bump
Stoned Ninjas
22-01-2006, 17:55
I'll sign up. Is there anything you need to know before I do?
Umm al Qaywayn
22-01-2006, 18:04
I too shall sign up!
Drexel Hillsville
22-01-2006, 18:08
I assume this is MT, so I'll join. I'll even be one of the groups on the offensive. I'll just need a teamate to find out about the projects for me.
Delta Green
22-01-2006, 18:12
This looks to be extremely interesting. Delta Green policy on incidents dealing with radiological weaponry is immediate capture, study, and eventual elimination using their specialized NEST teams. In this situation, they would do anything in their power to destroy this threat, but at the same time, conflicted interests in the government would try to use it to supplement their own radiological technoplogies. Thus, multiple NEST teams would have multiple objectives from multiple higher-ups ^^
Kordo
22-01-2006, 18:28
I'm glad to see so many people interested! I'm want to start creating 'teams' such as 'Destroyers' who want to destroy the ships/missiles, the 'bad guys' who want to use the for their own evil purposes and so on. Any suggestions on groups or comments on which group you want to join would be helpful.
Drexel Hillsville
22-01-2006, 18:31
I take it there would be three teams over all:

Capture
Destroy
Retake

Am I correct?

By the way if this is the case, I would be Capture.
Delta Green
22-01-2006, 18:34
If this is the case, Delta Green would have a mixed objective conflicted between Destroy and Capture. However, even the ones who want to destroy it want to basically capture it first, so put the NEST teams from Delta Green under Capture.
Pirk
22-01-2006, 19:09
I`am new here, so i got maybe confused, but i still want to join two on "capture"
team
Drexel Hillsville
22-01-2006, 23:35
bump
Qarez
22-01-2006, 23:39
I'll sign up my special forces squad under "destroy".
The Andromedan
22-01-2006, 23:49
This looks like another day in the office for the Andromedan's finest in protection and dangerous retrieval. My EMDo team (Elite Military Defense Outfit) will escort the nuclear package so it doesn't get stolen. So technically, I will be serving under the retake part, but will start in a defense position guarding the package with Kordo.
Qarez
22-01-2006, 23:52
Can I get a clarification on the difference between the "capture" and "retake" factions? For that matter, how is the "destroy" team any different?

I assume that people on the destroy team, as I am, will work together regardless of motivation, although I suspect the motivation would be similar: to keep if out of anyones hands. Basically some more background on whose doing what?
Drexel Hillsville
22-01-2006, 23:55
Capture- those who want the projects for themselves. (Mostly free for all with chance of Team)
Retake- Kordo and allies trying to take the projects back from Capture. (Team)
Destroy- Those who want the projects to fall into nobodies hands. (Team)
Drexel Hillsville
22-01-2006, 23:59
To Delta:
If we do the capture, destroy, retake idea how would you like to work together? I'll take half the ships you take the other half. We share the gathered intel.
Delta Green
23-01-2006, 00:01
[OOC: It would probally be best to speak about this over Telegram ;) But regardless, that sounds like it would be the most effective means. But we would first have to contact each other and coordinate ICly.]
Qarez
23-01-2006, 00:04
Okay, well, I'll head the destroy team for now. Which consists of me...

How many nation's squads on each team should we have before we start the IC thread?
Qarez
23-01-2006, 04:51
Bump
The Marxist State
23-01-2006, 05:34
Moragrim Heslan will lead the Secret Military Police to Capture the devices for study. By order of Minister of Technology Aaron Deatan and Minister of War and Defense Sheizcka Karanov.
The Beltway
23-01-2006, 14:47
The Beltway can contribute one SR-71 recon plane, one Adrenaline-class frigate (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9357638&postcount=3), eighty SWAT team personnel, and one NEST team in support of operations to destroy the loose nuclear material.
-Benjamin Cardin, Defence Minister of The Beltway
Kordo
23-01-2006, 16:51
Can I get a clarification on the difference between the "capture" and "retake" factions? For that matter, how is the "destroy" team any different?

I assume that people on the destroy team, as I am, will work together regardless of motivation, although I suspect the motivation would be similar: to keep if out of anyones hands. Basically some more background on whose doing what?

"Capture" are the guys who want to take it for their own personal use.

"Retake" Are my forces, those that want to retake the weapons.

"Destroy" Are simply the side that wants to keep the weapons from everybodies hands.
The Beltway
23-01-2006, 20:48
OOC - Are we led to assume that the loose nuclear material and loose auxiliary cruisers are all in the hands of the terrorists?
Kordo
23-01-2006, 20:55
yep, and if anyone want's to RP the terrorists their welcome to it. But if you do remember that everyone else involved in this RP will be gunning for you.
Drexel Hillsville
23-01-2006, 20:57
Is this just going to stay as spec-ops fighting or do you think it will evole inot all out war?
Kordo
23-01-2006, 21:06
Is this just going to stay as spec-ops fighting or do you think it will evole inot all out war?

Errr.... I really didn't think about this. I planned on it starting as a commando-type RP but it could easily escalate further. I guess that if the RP leads into a open war it would be fine by me but I didn't make any specific plans on what it evolved into.
The Beltway
23-01-2006, 21:17
OOC - How about an actual Quasi-War, like the one between the US and France in 1798-1799? The Quasi-War was an undeclared naval war between the two nations; depending on how this situation plays out (especially on whose ships are revealed to be secret auxiliary cruisers and who the terrorists are working for (if anyone)), this could turn into an undeclared, naval-only war.
Qarez
24-01-2006, 06:38
bump

So how long til we get moving along with this?
Drexel Hillsville
24-01-2006, 16:34
bump
Qarez
24-01-2006, 20:37
bump again

Where are all the participants?
Kordo
25-01-2006, 00:37
bump again

Where are all the participants?

Sorry, I though I had posted a reply to your post earlier.

How about an actual Quasi-War, like the one between the US and France in 1798-1799? The Quasi-War was an undeclared naval war between the two nations; depending on how this situation plays out (especially on whose ships are revealed to be secret auxiliary cruisers and who the terrorists are working for (if anyone)), this could turn into an undeclared, naval-only war.

That's actually the event that I named this RP and something I hoped would happen. I'm not looking for full-scale war with anyone, but a chance to improve my battle RP'ing skills would be nice.
The Andromedan
25-01-2006, 02:45
Wait, on the retake side, is it just going to be you, because I was planning as an ally to help you defend the weapon. If it's you on the retake side, I'll be on destroy.
The Andromedan
25-01-2006, 02:47
Wait, on the retake side, is it just going to be you, because I was planning as an ally to help you defend the weapon. If it's you on the retake side, I'll be on destroy. Cuz ill be all like.
terrorists :mp5: :sniper: me

gays :fluffle: :sniper: me

ghostbusters :gundge: :D
Drexel Hillsville
25-01-2006, 22:21
I'm ready to start whenever. Does anyone think that we should post the forces we will be using? And the general schematics of the boats?
Qarez
25-01-2006, 22:47
Sounds like a good idea, just to get everyone on the same page.

I've actually spent the last hour organizing my military in an Excel spreadsheet, and I'll be done in a little while, so I'll post it then.

I'm on the "destroy" team, so I'll probably be using 2-3 small 4 person squads. I'm willing to cooperate with anyone else looking to destroy the weapons.
The Beltway
25-01-2006, 22:59
The Beltway has an 80-man SWAT team, a frigate, a NEST team, and a single SR-71. The SWAT team is normally divided into twelve five-man assault elements and ten two-man sniper elements. The SR-71 is for recon purposes, the NEST team will be used to disable (permanently) the nuclear material, and the frigate will carry everyone but the SR-71s, along with providing light fire support, if necessary. We will use this all to support the destroy team.

Qarez - Do you have naval transport for your spec ops squad, or will you need our ship?
Qarez
25-01-2006, 23:38
Beltway, we do have transport of our own, but we would gladly hitch a ride with you, to coordinate any plans we might want.

Is there space for three Rigid Hull Inflatable Boats? (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/rhib.htm) We will be using these to transport our teams to land.

If you accept, we will also send our "NGQ Supreme", an Ohio class submarine, for back up and launching capabilities.

So when will the IC thread start?
Drexel Hillsville
26-01-2006, 03:33
We will be sending in two groups of six green berets to each of 9 of the so far capable boats. The other boat will be handled by my highest ranked black ops groups known as the Riders or the Four Horsemen.

Just to make sure is this MT or PMT?
Drexel Hillsville
26-01-2006, 03:35
We will be sending in two groups of six green berets to each of 9 of the so far capable boats. The other boat will be handled by my highest ranked black ops groups known as the Riders or the Four Horsemen.

Just to make sure is this MT or PMT?
The Beltway
26-01-2006, 03:47
Qarez - I'm afraid we can't quite fit the RHIBs aboard. We'd love to have an Ohio join in; we're now also bringing in our Seawolf-class SSN, the Towson.

Kordo - You might want to post who will be on what team.

Everyone - I think that only once each of us (including whoever is rping the terrorists) posts the forces they will commit to the mission (although not any additional naval vessels being included) in this thread should we start up the IC thread. I'm in favor of MT; then again, I'm MT myself, due to low military budgets and other issues.
Drexel Hillsville
26-01-2006, 04:02
I am in favor of PMT but I am willing to go to MT. I can easiliy make my weapons MT as I am on the lower side of PMT anyway.
Drexel Hillsville
26-01-2006, 04:10
Should we also post the weapons out groups will be using?
The Offworld Guardians
26-01-2006, 04:14
We're ready to provide two, six men, special forces teams, and one of our submarines, the Oceanus, with a mini deployment sub.

The rest of our Carrier Battle Group will be on standby if need for assistance arises.
Qarez
26-01-2006, 04:21
Beltway- That's fine, we'll also send along our amphibious assault ship with our sub. The teams will ride with us, but we'll let our Squad captain ride with you, to formulate our coalition.

Drexel- I'd prefer this to be MT, I think that's what most people are playing. PMT would be fine I'd guess, I'll just play less advanced. And I think posting weapons would be a great idea. I'll post all the info next post.
Drexel Hillsville
26-01-2006, 21:46
The Tech Level Is Up to Kordo To Decide. I am just an extremely active poster. He is in charge.
Drexel Hillsville
27-01-2006, 21:32
bump
Cantonam
27-01-2006, 21:47
I'm in, preferably on the destroy team.
The Beltway
27-01-2006, 21:52
Good! What, in terms of equipment, men, etc, will you bring?
Cantonam
27-01-2006, 22:01
25 marines, and support, I don't whant to be to rigid because it limits effectivness.
The Beltway
28-01-2006, 23:37
Cantonam - Do you have your own ship(s) available to take your marines, or will Qarez or I need to take them along? Further, are you bringing along any warships? They may prove useful for detaining hostiles.
Qarez
29-01-2006, 06:49
bump...
Krakatowa
29-01-2006, 14:52
25 basic squads of 4. 1 member of the squad carries a Q35, Similar to G36 but the Q35 is longer, 1 carries an Anti-Armour Rifle. 1 carries M112, Similar to the M80 but holds ammo in a drum roll barrel. 1 carries an Anti-Tank/Anti-Air missile. I will also send 3 M2 tanks. 1 weapons inspector with each squad. The Revolutionary submarine to transport them in. The ground troops are to seek out the missiles. After we do that we blow the hell out of them with UCAVs
The Beltway
29-01-2006, 17:18
I assume you're working for the destroy side, correct?
Mare Serenus
29-01-2006, 17:28
Is it too late to join?
Drexel Hillsville
29-01-2006, 18:13
Actually, if worse comes to worse then I will and up switching sides mid-RP
Qarez
29-01-2006, 20:49
Is it too late to join?

Probably not, we haven't started the IC thread yet and the teams/participants aren't fully worked out yet either. I went through the thread and compiled a list, and here's what I ended up with.

Capture
Delta Green
Pirk
The Marxist State
Drexel Hillsville Drexel Hillsville, you never specified a team, but you said you wanted to be on the offensive, so I put you under "capture".

Destroy
Qarez
The Beltway
Cantonam

Retake
Kordo
The Andromedan

Any more problems?
The Marxist State
29-01-2006, 20:53
Okay. Krakatowa is NOT practicipating. It's my nation and I forgot I was logged onto it.

25 basic squads of 4. 1 member of the squad carries a Q35, Similar to G36 but the Q35 is longer, 1 carries an Anti-Armour Rifle. 1 carries M112, Similar to the M80 but holds ammo in a drum roll barrel. 1 carries an Anti-Tank/Anti-Air missile. I will also send 3 M2 tanks. 1 weapons inspector with each squad. The Revolutionary submarine to transport them in.

THOSE ARE OUR FORCES, Krakatowa is NOT, again NOT participating. And yes, I am on the Capture side, for now.

Just like Drexel, if worse comes to worse we might switch to destroy Mid RP
Qarez
29-01-2006, 20:55
Roger that, I'll edit the list. I'll just take off the whole unspecified thing, since it's super unlikely any of them will play.
Cantonam
29-01-2006, 21:37
Cantonam - Do you have your own ship(s) available to take your marines, or will Qarez or I need to take them along? Further, are you bringing along any warships? They may prove useful for detaining hostiles.

we have one aegis class cruiser, a diesel sub, and a battlecruiser. we also have some helicopters.
Mare Serenus
30-01-2006, 00:02
I will be on the destroy side.

My forces will be two 12 man special forces team, 2 technicians to deal with the WMDs. For their transportation it kinda depends on weather we are doing PMT or MT.
Qarez
30-01-2006, 00:34
Updated Roster:

Capture
Delta Green
Pirk
The Marxist State
Drexel Hillsville Drexel Hillsville, you never specified a team, but you said you wanted to be on the offensive, so I put you under "capture".

Destroy
Qarez
The Beltway
Cantonam
Mare Serenus
Robocuba

Retake
Kordo
The Andromedan

Teams are pretty fleshed out, I think. Maybe one more team on retake, but I think we're about good to go. Kordo, you want to start the IC thread?

So for Destroy Team 1, is it Beltway, Cantonam and me? Are we all working together?

I'll post my squad next.
The Beltway
30-01-2006, 01:10
Unless the others on the Destroy team are bringing ships, it looks like we'll have to carry them as well. I'm still in, glad you are too.
Drexel Hillsville
30-01-2006, 03:10
I just want to confirm that I am on the Capture team.
Drexel Hillsville
31-01-2006, 21:18
bump
Kordo
01-02-2006, 00:51
@#$@!

Sorry to keep you guys waiting all this time. Between school, friends, (yes, suprsingly enough for an NS'er I do have some) and the fact that I just bought Hearts of Iron II I haven't had time. But now I do and I'll be starting the official IC thread tonight.

One quick comment to all pacticipants: I have no, no tolerance for godmodding or the like. If I even get a wiff of it you're out of here.
Drexel Hillsville
01-02-2006, 00:57
@#$@!

Sorry to keep you guys waiting all this time. Between school, friends, (yes, suprsingly enough for an NS'er I do have some) and the fact that I just bought Hearts of Iron II I haven't had time. But now I do and I'll be starting the official IC thread tonight.

One quick comment to all pacticipants: I have no, no tolerance for godmodding or the like. If I even get a wiff of it you're out of here.

dang
>_>
<_<
Kordo
01-02-2006, 02:59
And here it is!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10337482#post10337482
Mare Serenus
01-02-2006, 04:18
I am sorry, but have we decided on a tech yet?
Kordo
03-02-2006, 00:36
I am sorry, but have we decided on a tech yet?

Modern to slightly Post Modern.
Kordo
05-02-2006, 19:05
bumpage!
Mare Serenus
08-02-2006, 06:44
Where is everybody?:confused:
Cantonam
09-02-2006, 17:48
I don't know......
Qarez
10-02-2006, 01:46
I'll post soon I promise.
Kordo
17-02-2006, 00:59
*Sigh* Over the last several weeks I have found myself less and less interested in Nationstates. I have been unable to muster enough creative thought to make even a half-assed attempt to upkeep my current RP’s and for that I am sorry. Do to this lack interest, lack of creativity and a general lack of time, I have decided to take a break from Nationstates. I truly enjoyed RP’ing with you all and I apologize for any inconvenience my leaving causes. Again, goodbye, and thanks for all the good times.
Qarez
17-02-2006, 01:58
While, due to my own time constraints, I didn't really get a feel for you as an RPer, you seemed like a great NSer. I hope it is only a break and that you return, but good luck regardless.

Cheers.