NationStates Jolt Archive


New Scientific Initiative, Mapping the Upper Atmosphere

Mondoth
21-01-2006, 03:52
Press release by the Mondothian Metereological Society, in partnership with the Federation of Mondothian Scientists

The MMS and FMS have devised a unique experiment that, if succesful, could provide great advances to the sciences of Metereology, Astronomy as well as various commercial enterprises such as sattelite communications, Air travel and radio telecommunications. The plan is a bold one, using large arrays of high power/frequency phased array tranceivers suplemented by high powered radar arrays such as those on most modern Missile Cruisers and specially designed ships carrying smaller HP/F arrays we plan on creating and maintaining an accurate map of the Ionosphere's lower edge, shifts and movements of which are believed to be responsible for several weather phenomena. With this map we should be able to predict the movements and appearances of jet streams, abberrant weather patterns, and variations in the upper atmosphere that can cause variations in the performance in radio and sattelite communications. Besides its commercial applications the plan of mapping the ionosphere could yield great advances in our knowledge of the atmosphere.
Constructionis already underway of a Mondothian Array and a Shipbourne array for concept testing puposes. If this first phase of the experiment is successfull then we will need the cooperation of many nations to host HP/F arrays to map as much of the ionosphere as possible with the highest possible resolution for the best results.
Mondoth
21-01-2006, 21:13
A secret Modnothian Temporary Intelligence center
"Hey, take a look at this."

"Hmm, looks like that HAARP thing we wanted to do a while ago."
"Yea, but check it out, they want to get other nations in volved, but arrays on ships... This is bigger than anything we ever thought of"

"Wow, you're right, this is huge, we could build the most comprehensive missile defense network on the planet, right under the noses of every foreign nation that accepts one of these arrays, and even if they did catch wind what are they going to do? blow up a scientific installation? they'd have to blow up a lot to even dent the shield if it ever reaches the size these guys want it to."
"I like it"

Press Release from the Mondothian Government
Regarding the Recent plan by the FMS and MMS, The Mondothian Government feels that it represents a huge step forward for Science and would provide a valuable asset to any nation accepting an array. As such the Mondothian Government will be giving signifigant grants to the Ionosphere Mapping initiative and is willing to lease property in other nations to house Ionosphere Mapping arrays.
The Beltway
21-01-2006, 21:20
We're in favor of scientific research. We'll take an array; please deliver to our home in Camp Springs.
-Dr. Lixion Avila, Director of the National Center for Environmental Prediction
Usea-Jason
21-01-2006, 21:48
Usea-Jason will also help,the advancement of science always helps.We will accept a array,placing it near old Farbanti.

Dr.Andrei Peatrov,Science Ignition Group,Usea-Jason.
Delta Green
22-01-2006, 02:04
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Do you see the light in the sky?
We will find it.

The ARC DREAM floats along the sky, towards the light.
We will find it.

Find it for me.

We are preparing for the first flight. I will make the announcement, continue
to focus in on the project. This is another step towards what we are trying to
achieve. It is extremely convenient for us that someone else is going to begin
to perform what we have planning. Our resources that have been granted to
us by our benefactors will aid the process further. We are very close
now.

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Press Release from the Incorporated Populations of Delta Green
Message from the Capitol of Hyperborea
Addressed to All Nations in Interest of Peace and the Truth

We have seen this great and noble search for knowledge in the interest of Humanity, and find that it would be foolish to do anything but help support such a cause. Delta Green takes an especial interest in the natural sciences for hte advancement of humankind. For this reason, we are willing to lease any chosen land in Hyperborea (formerly Antarctica) or the reforming Australia in order to serve your interests. Locations that might interest you include:

Mt. Vinson, highest peak in Hyperborea, 5140m off the ground
Ayers Rock, also known as Uluru, atop of the Uluru Hab-Center
The Woomera Authorized Military Area, with access to many technological resources
However, we do request a few conditions. We wish that in these facilities that we are able to participate in the experimentation and gathering of data. We will provide monetary and physical resources, as well as personnel, to help your ends. If we can participate, this will give us a new avenue to use the minds we have and to expand our personal knowledge. Our second and final request is that we can gain free access to the information once it is completed, however, if you wish to restrict some of this information, then we can negotiate the terms.

For Truth and State.

Dr. Henry Vandenburg
Chair of Research and Development
Incorporated Populations of Delta Green
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Mondoth
22-01-2006, 03:34
To: All nations having accepted the presence of a HP/F Ionosphere Mapping array
From: The Federation of Mondothian Scientists ina ssosciation with the Mondothian Meteological Society

We are glad that you have acceppted the presense of these arrays in your natios. The appropriate technicians and and materials are ont heir way to the locations you have selected for assembly and to begin the mapping. This is truly a great advancement for science and we thank you for participating.

To: Delta Green

Some of the equipment used by the arrays themselves has been deemed 'proprietary secure' by the Mondothian government and we cannot therefore allow full access to the array itself, however your people are free to work in the arrays listening post where the actual data is gathered, viewed and analyzed. The Information, once the map is complete, will be free to all peoples wishing access to it, this is afterall a scientific venture!
Mondoth
23-01-2006, 01:32
bumpo
Usea-Jason
23-01-2006, 21:16
Thank you,Just tell us when to opperate it.
Mondoth
25-01-2006, 08:37
OOC: SRY for delay, getting used to the fact that the search engine doesn't work like it should anymore

IC:

As soon as pre operation tests are complete the array should be continously operational. The sky is a vast and ever changing space to map and the more data we have the more succesful this initiative.
Mondoth
27-01-2006, 03:08
The first HP/F Ionospheric Mapping Array ship has set sale! The ship, named "Ocean Sentinel" will sail the seas and oceans providing valuable information about the behaviour of the Ionosphere over large bodies of water and before and after the formation of phenomenon such as Tropical Storms and Hurricanes. In all there are twenty four "Sentinel" type ships have been ordered, The reminaing twenty three will be completed steadily over the next six years.

In related news, neo-Environmentalist groups began a protest of the Ionospheric Mapping project early this morning, claiming that the powerful frequencies emitted by the arrays coul;d have drastic affects ont he environment, from damaging the atmosphere to disrupting the Van-Allens radiation belt that protects the Planet from harmful radiation from space. Federation of Mondothian Scientists Spokesperson Stephon Hawkes publicly scoffed at the protesters, grouping them with similiar protestors that decry the arrays as everything from weather control devices to alien communicators, calling them 'Darn fool tin fool hat wearing ninnies"
Usea-Jason
27-01-2006, 03:18
Usean Test Started at 19:50 hour UMT(Usea sentral Mean Time).Data link to Mondoth Science Systems initated.
Whittier---
27-01-2006, 03:26
We will not be accepting or allowing any your contraptions in our skies. If you attempt to put one in our skies, it will be shot down.
Leafanistan
27-01-2006, 03:33
OOC: I don't think you want to advance Astrology, I think you mean Astronomy.
Also a couple of guys at MIT with some time on their hands confirmed that tin foil hats in fact amplify radio waves and they amplify the ones that are restricted for US government only best. :D

While we applaud your scientific initiative, we are suspicious of an ulterior motive (Radio jamming, etc.) and must decline your offer. We'll send you relevant data from our Ministry of Meterology's satellites and ground stations for your project as we in no way want to restrict science.

Secret IC

"This greatly resembles our Project: Stormfury and Project: Positive Light."

"I know, the idea of a weather control device by a foreign government on our soil is unacceptable. However we better increase funding to our projects, to make sure they don't overtake us."
Allied Anime Worlds
27-01-2006, 04:35
Dramatis personae:

Chio Miyahama, a young girl genius
Endymion, successor to the rule of Empress Neo-Serenity
Mahoro, and android
Amy Waters, a longtime government official
Raye Sun, a longtime government official
Fleet Admiral Emeralds, a respected tactician
Sagara Souske, a renwoned mech pilot

The following a closed-door session of the FAAW cabinet

Scene: Federation of Allied Anime Worlds cabinet chambers. Present are President Endymion, Secretary of Internal Affairs Amy Waters, Secretary of the Incredibly Obvious Mahoro, Secretary of Defense Raye Sun, and Special Military Advisors Colonel Chio Miyahama, Fleet Admiral Emeralds, and Lieutenant Sagara Souske

Endymion: Well, the gang's all here. I'm so glad to see everyone back at the table.

Emeralds: I am glad to return and to serve.

Raye: I'm glad you've managed to keep SOME of the Federation together in my absence.

Sagara: Reporting as ordered, Mr. President.

Chio: Let's go get the bad guys!

Raye: I'll second that. What's the status of our military?

Amy: Whoa there, slow down! We're not in any position to do anything militarily yet!

Raye (Disappointed): Oh.

Amy: Although we are working toward rebuilding our military, our short-term goal is to restore the prestiege of the Federation. To that end, we have already entered into the World Cup tournament, and I have heard that a country called "Mondoth" is starting a scientific initiative.

Raye (Annoyed): Great. Time for me to tune out. What am I here for again?

Endymion: Order...

Mahoro: I think speaking out of turn is bad!

Endymion: Ahem...

Mahoro: Oh. Sorry...

Amy: In any case, they are proposing to map the upper atmosphere, and are calling for participants.

Endymion: What would our participation involve?

Amy: We would put together a high-powered radio array and start scanning the upper atmosphere.

Endymion: Sounds good to me.

Raye looks up from an internet terminal that she had been accessing

Raye: Wait a second, wait a second! It says here that, if we were to participate, we would not have access to the array itself, but only to a "listening post." You want to put a huge piece of unknown hardware on Federation soil? Unbelievable!

Endymion: She raises a legitmate concern. Colonel Miyahama, you've had experience is espionage. Would you be able to keep tabs on that thing from a distance and make sure it doesn't do anything sinister?

Chio: Spying on something that doesn't move in our own backyard? Aww, I thought you were going to give me something HARD to do!

Raye: As Secretary of Defense, no one knows Colonel Miyahama's amazing abilities better than I. But I'm still concerned that any sinisterness may come...suddenly.

Amy: We can't come out of the gate severely mistrusting anyone who claims to want to advance science. I say we trust them cautiously until we have reason to do otherwise.

Endymion: I understand both sets of concerns. I will signal our interest to Mondoth, but not agree to participate outright. I will draft a letter doing so with a list of our concerns, and send it via E-mail to all of you. We will discuss our concerns in more detail, then contact Mondoth. Dismissed.

The following is an official communique to the Trinitarian Republic Mondoth

To our peer on the world stage, the Trinitarian Republic of Mondoth:

We at the Federation of Allied Anime Worlds approve of and applaud your bold undertaking to map the upper ionosphere. The Federation is interested in participating, but we have some concerns.

1) We understand that you do not wish other nations to have direct access to the array. Will Mondothian troops be stationed on our soil to enforce security?

2) We would like to observe the data not only as it is being collected, but also as it is transmitted back to you. Is this acceptable?

3) To what extent are parts to be shipped to us pre-fabricated, and to what extent are we expected to build the array ourselves?

4) Who will be responsible for construction?

5) We would like to build radio recievers in the surrounding region to ensure that whatever your array is transmitting, it is pointed firmly at the sky. Is this acceptable to you?

We eagerly await your reply.

In the name of the moon, and the glory that was,
President Endymion
Mondoth
27-01-2006, 06:14
OOC: Whittier--- they're ground based, not flying or orbitting.

Message from the Federation of Mondothian Scientists
To: The Federation of Allied Anime Worlds
Subject: RE: Concerns
1) We understand that you do not wish other nations to have direct access to the array. Will Mondothian troops be stationed on our soil to enforce security?
Military troops will not be stationed to over see site security, however CCTV and private security personell will be used (As necesary depending on location) to secure the site from the possibility of Sabotauge or espionage that could inadvertantly cause damage to the array.

2) We would like to observe the data not only as it is being collected, but also as it is transmitted back to you. Is this acceptable?
It is entirely acceptable, this is a purely scientific venture and freedom of information is one of our paramount concerns

3) To what extent are parts to be shipped to us pre-fabricated, and to what extent are we expected to build the array ourselves?
The transmitter itself and the computer systems used to collect the data will be the only prefabricated parts, the recieveing antennae and other structures will be built on site by local labor, The Federation is fully prepared to absorb all construction costs but any monetary help is much appreciated.

4) Who will be responsible for construction?
Technicians from the Federation of Mondothian Scientists as well as local laborers hired for the job will bear responsibility for the construction of the array.

5) We would like to build radio recievers in the surrounding region to ensure that whatever your array is transmitting, it is pointed firmly at the sky. Is this acceptable to you?

This is entirely acceptable, we do not anticipate that the array will remain pointed firnly at the sky at all times. becasue of the gap between arrays and the need for a comprehensive map for the venture to be sucessful, the arrays signal may be required to vary in direction by as much as forty five degrees (Extreme) this angle is still 'skyward' for all intents and purposes. If that degree of variation is unaceptable then we will of course amend the program, narrowing the 'mapping cone' While it is not required, if you wish to limit the degree of flexibility, we would prefer to be allowed to constuct more arrays to cover the portions of the sky that could not be covered.
Allied Anime Worlds
27-01-2006, 07:46
The following is encrypted internal communication via E-mail between members of the FAAW cabinet in re: Mondoth proposal

From: Amy Waters
To: Cabinet@FAAW.gov; Advisors@FAAW.mil; Prez@FAAW.gov

See? No soliders, no creepiness, nothing to be worried about. 45-135 degrees, and no troops on our soil. We can even grant a location of minimal strategic importance. And you were worried, Raye!

From: Raye Sun
To: Cabinet@FAAW.gov; Advisors@FAAW.mil; Prez@FAAW.gov

I still smell a rat!

From: Mahoro
To: Cabinet@FAAW.gov; Advisors@FAAW.mil; Prez@FAAW.gov

I think Secretary Sun always smells a rat!

From: Col. Miyahama
To: Cabinet@FAAW.gov; Advisors@FAAW.mil; Prez@FAAW.gov

ya she must have one tied under her noze LOL!!!

From: President Endymion
To: Cabinet@FAAW.gov; Advisors@FAAW.mil

If no one has any more objections, I will confirm our interest in being part of this initiative.

The following is an official communique to The Trinitarian Republic of Mondoth

To our peers on the world stage, the Trinitarian Republic of Mondoth:

45-135 degrees relative to the ground is considered acceptable as "firmly skyward" to us. We will also fully fund any parts built by local labor.

We are excited to take part in this scientific venture. "May the light of science guide our footsteps," as my Secretary of Internal Affaris would say.

In the name of the moon, and the glory that was,
President Endymion
Mondoth
27-01-2006, 08:29
We are glad to hear it, the technicians with the transmitter and computer equipment will be arriving shortly.
Antanjyl
27-01-2006, 12:01
OOC: Not to be rude or hijack the post, but do you mean Astrology or Astronomy? Since Astroloy is essentially fortune-telling.
Bronzeland
27-01-2006, 12:16
It is with regret that the Principality of Bronzeland must refuse Mondoth's proposition of a scientific station on our sovereign soil. Numerous independant tests have confirmed that said stations would indeed be harmful to the upper atmosphere and, while we value scientific knowledge, we refuse to be a part of any project that could furthur harm the delicate balance of the Earth. Should you continue to go ahead with the project in our territory we will be forced to remove the offending party immediately.

We hope, however, that this does not become a cause for contention between our countries, and remains only a matter of ecological debate.

Regretfully,

F. Larkin
Minister for the Environment, Principality of Bronzeland
Usea-Jason
27-01-2006, 19:48
--Farther in Usea,Excalibur Test #3--
"Balistic Defence Type-12 test initiate"said the scientice as they tested there new defence the "Excalibur" Chemical Laser.As the Blue beam raced across Usea,Something strange happened.

--Outskirts of New Farbanti,HP/F Ionosphere Mapping array--
The SecondTest of the Array was going fine when unknowinglly,the Blue streack hit the array's path.As it did,the array's force divided the Bean into six equally powerfull beams diverging outward from the contact point.the six new beams reced along there path,hitting water as they fell."what the hell?"Scientice from both test started saying.

Message from SIG(Science Ignition Group)-
"What IS the HP/F Ionosphere Mapping array?And what happens when a chemical laser where to hit the array's path?
Mondoth
28-01-2006, 00:43
OOC: Astrology? Where:)

IC: (I ssume you were asking me?)

The array is simply a high powered radio frequency Phased Array transmitter similiar to an air defense radar except many times more sensitive. To our knowledge the intersection of any laser, chemically generated or other wise should have no effect on the performance of either the laser or the trasmitter.
Allied Anime Worlds
28-01-2006, 04:45
The following is a closed-door session of the FAAW cabinet

Scene: FAAW cabinet chambers. Present are President Endymion, Col. Chio Miyahama, Secretary of Defense Raye Sun, and Secretary of Internal Affairs Amy Waters

Raye: Well, Mr. President, since you have just placed our security at the mercy of the Trinitarian Republic of Mondoth, I assume you have some measures in mind that will ameliorate this effect, yes?

Endymion: Raye, the Federation has a vested interest in becoming a scientific power, and that means cooperating with the international community on scientific ventures. No, I have not handed Mondoth a key to our back door, and yes, I'm doing something to assure our security. Colonel Miyahama, your presentation please.

Chio: Yes, sir!

The lights dim slightly for a computerized slide presentation

Chio: This is Operation Blindsight. The Federation military is building a distributed array of radio telescope/recievers throughout the country. First, this will give our own astronomy programs a much-needed boost. Secondly, the receivers will be used to listen for unauthorized satellite broadcasts...

Raye: I'm sorry, I don't understand what that will do for us.

Chio: It's quite simple. If this radio array is supposed to be used to assist any covert operations in the Federation, we believe that it will do so by communicating with a satellite, then with a foreign spy.

Raye: That STILL doesn't make sense. If they're going to go as far as satellite communication to assist an espionage or sabotage maneuver, they don't need to build a transmitter on our soil. They could do it from a boat in international waters, or just start transmitting from their own domestic bases and use satellite repeaters. Something else is going on here!

Chio: I...think that we should expand Operation Blindslight's scope...

Raye: Damn right you will! I want complete analysis on all data that comes to or from that station. I want you to find how that array interfaces with the outside world, and then I want you to start hacking that interface so we can find out exactly what the hell that software really does. I want you to hack whatever Mondothian coroporation or consortium or whatever makes those things and find out what they really do. I want you to prepare a team to infiltrate that array if necessary. I also want battle plans drawn up in case we need to attack that thing. And oh, I want us to withdraw from this insanity so that none of the above will be necessary!

Endymion: Are you done with your outburst, Raye?

Raye: Just doing my job, Mr. President.

Endymion: So you never tire of reminding me. We will later discuss over E-mail which, if any, of Secretary Sun's measures will be implemented. How is construction coming along?

Amy: Construction is currently underway. The hardware for Operation Blidnsight will be ready slightly before the Mondothian array.

Endymion: Very good. Dismissed.
Mondoth
28-01-2006, 06:01
A secret Modnothian Temporary Intelligence center
"The networks coming along nicely."

"We were able to piggy back the package?"

"one hundred lines of code, all the way in the assembler, you'd have to go over the source with a fine toothed comb to even know it was there. And the boosters are built intot he transmitters like they belong there, a naval radar techie could find them, but only if he knew what he was looking at."

"Good, hands off right?"

"Completely, the Feds don't even know what we did. the whole operation is completely com black, the only thing those arrays will transmit is what everyone expect them to. That is, until someone launches a missile our way, and even then it's only a glitch, a 'random' shift in direction, boost to overload power for less than a second and its all over, just hot gas and an electrical surge."

"Keep it that way, word of this thing gets out and it's over, nobody wants a foreign nations shield set up in their back yard, even if it does serve the higher scientific good."

"Alright, I'll make sure."
Usea-Jason
28-01-2006, 20:02
(ooc-Yes I was talking to you,Mondoth)
--Outskirts of New Farbanti,Array center--
The scientice from SiG,some of the best in usea,Started looking over the two test.The B7R worked up untill it hit the area of the array.This puzzled them untill they saw the trajectory screen was not avalable.The onlything that could divide the B7R was a major air disturbance,not unlike a hurricane.Yet how could the array do that....The next step was obvous,they needed a new array,and see if it was a random occurance.
Allied Anime Worlds
30-01-2006, 02:35
The following is encrypted internal E-mail between the Federation of Allied Anime Worlds' cabinet and advisors, in re: Scientific Array

From: Raye Sun
To: Prez@FAAW.gov; cabinet@FAAW.gov; advisors@FAAW.mil

So what are we going to do about this array in our backyard?

From: Col. Miyahama
To: Prez@FAAW.gov; cabinet@FAAW.gov; advisors@FAAW.mil

i think alot of things raye suggested could easily be done without attracting any unwanted attention...

From: Amy Waters
To: Prez@FAAW.gov; cabinet@FAAW.gov; advisors@FAAW.mil

That's true. Namely, we could prepare a team for infiltration, assemble a team of hackers, find out who is responsible for the array design, and draw up battle plans without anyone being any the wiser. We should prepare to keep all options on the table.

From: President Endymion
To: cabinet@FAAW.gov; advisors@FAAW.mil

I concur with all of what Amy said, except for the battle plans.

From: Raye Sun
To: Prez@FAAW.gov; cabinet@FAAW.gov; advisors@FAAW.mil

No battle plans? Very well. Just remember that what I do in my own time is no one's business but mine.

From: President Endymion
To: cabinet@FAAW.gov; advisors@FAAW.mil

I could order you to not do so, Raye.

From: Raye Sun
To: Prez@FAAW.gov; cabinet@FAAW.gov; advisors@FAAW.mil

You could, but you wouldn't be able to stop me or find out unless we actually ended up needing those plans.

From: President Endymion
To: cabinet@FAAW.gov; advisors@FAAW.mil

Raye, you really walk a fine line...

From: Raye Sun
To: Prez@FAAW.gov; cabinet@FAAW.gov; advisors@FAAW.mil

Just doing my job, Mr. President.

From: President Endymion
To: cabinet@FAAW.gov; advisors@FAAW.mil

So you never tire of reminding me. I have more important things to worry about than the after-hours activities of my cabinet members in any case. Amy, how's the analysis on that data coming? Is it legit?

From: Amy Waters
To: Prez@FAAW.gov; cabinet@FAAW.gov; advisors@FAAW.mil

We're in the process of comparing the data from our own arrays to the data from the Mondothian array as we speak. We can't get the same kind of resolution, but we can at least compare for consistency. If the Mondothian array is spitting out garbage data, we'll see it.

OOC: Is the output of the Mondothian array consistent with the data from the lower-power FAAW arrays built for Operation Blindsight?
Samaran
30-01-2006, 04:16
The Nation of Samaran would be pleased to advance knowledge of the natural world by hosting an array.
Mondoth
30-01-2006, 06:04
Technicians and equipment is on its way to Samaran to set up an array.

OOC: The data coming from the Array is clean, the only anomaly would be tracking reports (position, heading, speed and time of contact) of objects that wandered into the arrays coverage (Such as high flying aircraft)
Allied Anime Worlds
31-01-2006, 05:41
The following is a closed-door meeting of the FAAW cabinet

Scene: FAAW cabinet chambers. Present are President Endymion, Amy Waters, Raye Sun, Col. Chio Miyahama, Admiral Emeralds, and Lt. Sagara Souske

Endymion: Ms. Waters, you called this meeting, so I'm going to yield the floor to you.

Amy: I've some good news and some suspicious news...

Raye: Ha! If Amy finds something suspicious, then there must be something along the lines of a Mondothian fleet amassed just outside our territorial waters!

Endymion: Damn it, Raye, order!

Amy: The good news is that the data gathered from the array is consistent with the data from our arrays. The suspicious news is that the Mondothian array is also tracking all flying objects that come into the array's view.

Emeralds: Why would a purely scientific apparatus gather information about aircraft...?

Raye: Why indeed? We caught them red-handed, Mr. President! I move that we shut down the array immediately and refer the Trinitarian Republic of Mondoth to the United Nations for admonishment!

Amy: Caught them red-handed doing what?!

Raye: Spying on us!

Col. Chio Miyahama: Even if we do not now possess much of an airforce, we still have some sensitive military flights, especially test flights. Furthermore, information about all of our civilian flights may have non-negligable intelligence value.

Admiral Emeralds: Col. Miyahama is correct, Mr. President. As matters stand, the array is an unacceptable breach of our security.

President Endymion: We're not going to dive into this head-first. First, ground all military test flights. I will also forward our concerns to the Trinitarian Republic of Mondoth, and also forward our findings to the other nations involived in the initiative. They should know what has been done in the name of a "purely scientific initiative." Any further concerns? No? Very well, dismissed.

The following is a formal communique to the Trinitarian Republic of Mondoth

To our peers on the world stage, the Trinitarian Republic of Mondoth:

It has come to our attention that your scientific array is tracking aircraft as well as gathering data from the upper atmosphere, only the latter of which being the stated goal of this initiative. Certain members of my cabinet find this to be an uacceptable breach of security. Why is this scientific array gathering data about aircraft?

In the name of the moon, and the glory that was,
President Endymion

The following is a communique to all nations involved in the upper atmosphere mapping initiative

To all nations involved in Mondoth's upper atmosphere mapping initiative:

We, the Federation of Allied Anime Worlds, have discovered that the arrays built and installed by the Trinitarian Republic of Mondoth are tracking all aircraft as well as gathering information about the upper atmosphere. We at FAAW feel that this is a breach of our secuirty, and can only assume that the other arrays are doing the same. We urge each involved nation to verify our claims and take action they deem necessary.

In the name of the moon, and the glory that was,
President Endymion
Mondoth
31-01-2006, 07:49
Message from the Federation of Mondothian Scientists

The tracking of aircraft is a previously undiscovered glitch in the systems operating programs. We believe currently that it is caused by elements of the control software that were modified from existing Naval Air Search radars used direct the array. these algorithms were used because they were the only available that could handle the amount of information the array is capable of gathering. A patch is currently in developement to fix the problem. We humbly apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and we volunteer to have the arrays shut down until the patch is completed.


A secret Modnothian Temporary Intelligence center

"What's this then, I thought it was undetectable?"

"It was, I didn't expect anybody to be looking at the raw data."

"Why wouldn't they, I certainly would want to look at what an array in my nation was pumping back to a country like Mondoth."

"Well, the patch should fix it, we won't be able to look at the backlogs though with out going to the site though, if an array does 'go off' then we'll have no idea what it hit unless we can get somebody there to look at the temporary logs before they dump."

"Its an acceptable risk, see if you can get the track logs to encrypt with the status reports on the special components, I don't want anybody realising these things are still collecting the data even if they aren't beaming it anywhere."

"Sounds good, I'll see what I can do."

"And get it right this time."
Allied Anime Worlds
31-01-2006, 09:08
The following is a closed-door session of the Federation of Allied Anime Worlds cabinet. Present are President Endymion, Amy Waters, Raye Sun, Admiral Emeralds, Col. Miyahama, Lt. Souske, and Secretary of the Incredibly Obvious Mahoro. An uneasy silence reigns before Endymion calls the meeting to order

Endymion: Well, we all saw Mondoth's communique. Reactions?

Raye Sun: I don't belive it for a minute! Reused algorithms? What a joke! It's as plain as day what that array was meant for!

Endymion: I tend to agree.

Amy Waters: I wouldn't be so sure...

Endymion: Explain.

Amy Waters: After we came through the dimensional portal, one of the first things I did with my free time was look at what kind of computing languages these people have developed. They have a programming paradigm called 'Object oriented programming.' I won't bore you with the details, but the upshot is that it is very easy to carry large pieces of code, unchanged, from project to project.

Raye Sun: Computers. It's always computers with you.

Amy: Or I could explain a few deatils of OOP...

Raye: No! No! Please no!

Endymion: Order. Since Amy is our resident computing expert, I'm inclined to agree with her analysis.

Chio: I'm more concerned than Secretary Waters, but I know that a strong military is built on a strong scientific foundation. Whatever else that array is gathering, it's also gathering legitimate data, right?

Amy: Yes, it is.

Chio: So even if we pull out, other countires won't. And even if Mondoth is spying on them, they will gain the benefits of this science. And we all know that "pure" science has an annoying habit of unpredictably opening up entire fields of indespensible applications. No one would have thought, for example, that some guy studying stinky cheese would eventually give us safe milk and antibiotics.

Admiral Emeralds: I reluctantly agree.

Raye (frustrated): There must be some way of finding out if that array is still tracking our military hardware without resorting to force! Which we should have done already!

Amy: Come to think of it, there is.

Endymion: There is?! I'm eager to hear it.

Amy: If that thing is gathering data on the upper atmosphere and tracking aircraft, it must be actively scanning at VERY high power. If we outfit a "military test plane" with a passive scanner and pay attention to what it sees, we'll be able to see the EM waves hitting it. And if we know it's not any of our equipment...

Endymion: Then we know it must be the array! Brilliant!

Chio: Should I schedule such a flight immediately, Mr. President?

Endymion: No. How frequently do we fly over that airspace?

Chio: Actually, I think the array covers most of the Federation's airspace.

Endymion: Find out. If we regularly fly through a significant portion of that airspace, schedule a flight immediately. If it covers a less-traveled part of our airspace, wait a week, or two, or whatever amount of time it would be for the next flight over.

Chio: Yes, sir.

Raye: Wait, what about our current flights?

Endymion: The array is currently offline, so our test flights are safe.

Raye: Good.

Endymion: I sure hope that nothing comes of this, but if so, we'll show them that we don't take the Federation's security lightly!

Raye (eagerly): Then what do we do?

Endymion: Whatever we do, it will be strictly on our own soil. We don't have the manpower or technology for a conventional war. In any case, we will discuss it at a later date. If it's relevant. Adjorned.

The following is a formal communique to the Trinitarian Republic of Mondoth

To our peers on the world stage, the Trinitarin Republic of Mondoth:

We thank you for your rapid response to our concerns. With the array offline pending a patch, we are able to resume our test flights. We believe that your rapid response and your willingness to shut down the array pending your patch speaks to your honesty about this incident being a mere glitch. We look forward to a long and mutually beneficial scientific alliance.

In the name of the moon, and the glory that was,
President Endymion

OOC: Does the array cover most of the FAAW airspace? I'd think it would have to, in order to be useful for either of its purposes.
Usea-Jason
31-01-2006, 22:54
The Array in Usea,Working perfectlly found that tracking Usean Aircraft was a bit harder than thought.The Mulitudes of Airships and Aircraft started to divert the Array from anything close to top secret.The targeting system of B7R was effected by the arrays target nullifyer and the diverging of the beam is still under investigation.
Mondoth
01-02-2006, 03:58
OOC: dependong on how big your nation is and where you put the array within it
the purpose isn't really to track your aircraft/spy on you, it's really a Ballistic missile defense grid (Which really does scan the upper atmosphere as advertised) so tracking overflights is really a side effect of looking for ballistic missiles on an approach to Mondoth. The array doesn't really 'look' for aircraft anyway, it just scans the upper atmosphere and when an aircraft gets in the way of the beam it logs it. So the array will still track aircraft, but it won't report them.
Usea-Jason
01-02-2006, 22:00
(ooc- Just wanted to get that out.So any Consiracies*Cough*FAAW*Cough*
Nuts can rest there minds.)
Allied Anime Worlds
02-02-2006, 06:16
[Scene: A conference room at FAAW Mechanized Infantry: Airborne Forces HQ. Present are Admral Emeralds, Lieutenant Sagara Sosuke, and Colonel Chio Miyahama]

Col. Miyahama: An excellent test flight as uaual, Lieutenant.

Lt. Souske: Thank you, sir.

Emeralds: I'm sure you'll be promoted in no time, Lieutenant. Your consistent competence deserves more authority and responsibility.

Souske: I'm glad to hear your high opinion of me, sir.

Miyahama: Where is that technician? Are we here for a debriefing or what?

[Enter technician]

Technician: I'm sorry to keep you waiting.

Emeralds: Don't worry, not all of us are as impatient as Colonel Miyahama. Your report, please.

Technician: Analysis reads as follows; upon entering the array-observed airspace, Lt. Souske's instruments almost immediately picked up a signal. It was not, however, a continuous signal, but rather frequent pings. Data analysis reveals that the array scans the sky visible to it back and forth, and it did not pay any particular attention to Lt. Souske's plane, even when he engaged in extreme maneuvers. That's the end of the report.

Miyahama: No continuous signal or particular attention? That's consistent with the array's stated intention.

Emeralds: I'm sure that Secretary Sun will quickly point out that the data is also consitent with her interpretation. Not that it matters at this point. I think the only relevant question is to whether we can reroute our civilian traffic to avoid the array's airspace. I already know we can schedule our secret test flights around it. We'll deliver this report to the Cabinet and the President tomorrow. Dismissed.

Scene: FAAW council chambers. Present are all members of the cabinet.

Emeralds: ...and that concludes our report.

Endymion: It's consistent with the science theory. Amy, can we reroute our civilian traffic away from the array?

Amy: We can, Mr. President, and impact on our civilian industries will be negligable.

Raye Sun: It's also consistent with a spy mission!

Endymion: Raye, the Cabinet has spent enough time and resources on this issue. If they want to spy on us, they'll have to do better than to spend millions on a high-powered array that we get to place. If you want to continue scrutinizing the array, you'll have to spend your time and your resources on it.

Raye: I...I want a vote on this.

Amy: I move to table the Mondothian array issue indefinately.

Endymion: I second. A cabinet vote? This should be fun. We haven't done one of these in a long time.

[A screen above Endymion displays the text: Motion on the floor: To table the Mondothian array issue indefinately]

Endymion: Please cast your votes.

[A few moments later, the screen displays the results; Aye: 6, Nay 1, Abstain: 0]

Endymion: The motion passes. Let's get to some other business, shall we?

OOC: This was a fun little RP, we should do it again sometime. As for the "conspiracy theory," I'm just playing my characters the way I think they would react. Endymion wants to establish FAAW as a scientific power, Amy just likes science in general, and the military advisors reacted the way they did because in the FAAW's recent history, (unwritten as of this post) their military got slaughtered and they lost an interstellar empire because their technology wasn't up to the task. Raye Sun has a paranoid streak, but in the Federation's history she's been proven right too many times for Endymion or Amy or discount her advice lightly. Mahoro rarely has a strong opinion about anything. Except pornography. She really doesn't like pornography.
Mondoth
02-02-2006, 07:29
OOC: Well, maybe if it ever needs to be used as a Missile defense then we can reopen the 'conspiracy' question. I'm always of fan of things not being what they seem.
Allied Anime Worlds
02-02-2006, 07:36
OOC: Oh, you most certainly can bet that Raye will bring the issue back to the Cabinet if there is a mysterious power surge at the array correlates to the destruction of a missile targeting Mondoth...especially after she finds out that all the other arrays have experienced the same "mysterious" power surge. :)

Edit: Added sig
Edit2: I can't see the sig, despite it showing up in the preview. Is it working?
Usea-Jason
03-02-2006, 02:48
(ooc-indeed I have a new idea.This is before they stoped talking about it.)
To-the FAAW Goverment
From-The Union of Usean Soviet States
About-Mondothian array

I,SSu Jason Mikoyan,Had heard not but consiracies from you land.And The SiG is getting distastful disproving your clames.Even if we can't find out what happed to B7R,You sometimes need Trust.If you cant trust my oppinion,Trust our ace.Usea is a mostly airborn nation,so how about a Compition?You best Ace Verus Our Best ace in a mock Dogfight?If we win,You stop the consirace talk unless you have proof,If you win,You decide.What say you?

Signed,
Supreme Soviet Unifyed,Jason Volgen Mikoyan.
Mondoth
03-02-2006, 03:28
OOC: You might need to go to your setting and make sure you can view signatures... Otherwise I have no idea, try clearing your Cache or something.
Allied Anime Worlds
03-02-2006, 07:29
To the Union of Usean Soviet States:

If you wish to engage in some wargames, we may be interested. However, the Federation does not decide policy based on the outcomes of wargames.

The Federation has investigated the array and decided that there is no conclusive evidence that the Mondothian array is anything but a scientific apparatus, so we have already "stopped talking about conspiracies," as you put it. Indeed, all we have done is send a single communique to other nations involved in this initiative reporting our find that the array was gathering information about aircraft in its field of view. We simply thought it best to inform others of the fact.

The Federation believes Mondoth's explanation that the information gathering was the result of a re-used computer algorithm. Other countries may or may not; that is a decision for the other nations' leaders.

If you are interested in participating in wargames for their own sake, please send a telegram to the Federation of Allied Anime Worlds.

In the name of the moon, and the glory that was,
President Endymion