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The General sat in the bunker.He had recived word that many missiles have been shot down.In no more than a half hour any missiles that made it through would hit.He had sent a message out to all nations providing military aid.

From General Howe
To All nations providing aid:
I would like to organize a meeting between all of us so we can get organize ourselves and work together.First of all we will be meeting up with other nations to blockade the way to Frenzia.We can have Carrier Battle Group 1 link up with you in about 4 hours.We will also send Surface Action Group 1 and Surface Action Group 2.These groups won't be there for about 27 hours.

Carrier Battle Group 1

1 Nimitz Class Carrier
2 CGN-38 Virginia Class
2 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
1 Overlord Class Air Defence Frigates
2 Los Angeles class attack submarines
1 Supply class fast combat support ship

Surface Action Group 1
2 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
2 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
3 Los Angeles class submarines
1 Ontario Class Battleships
1 Supply class fast combat support ship

Surface Action Group 2
1 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
1 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
2 Los Angeles class submarines
1 Supply class fast combat support ship

OOC: I've formulated an idea in order to take out the Raven Corps convoy. It will require that we strike first, and strike hard. I'd like a list of all the ships in your respective fleets.

As for tactics, I plan to take out the cruisers using AGMs, torpedoes, and direct shells, and the fighters with my own fighters (which I'm sure are faster, stealthier, and carry more missiles.) I need someone else to take out the transports.

As for our Carrier Group, we are about 24 hours away from Frenzian waters.

Meanwhile onboard Divine Retribution:

"Comms officer, contact General Howe!"

"Yes Sir!"

"Hello General Howe, this is Admiral Greene, I have an idea for the blockade. I have 50 minesweepers/layers under my command, I would like your permission to start laying them, will leave a path for the rest of the allies to make it through and close the gap when they are all through. Though I would like a second opinion from the other leaders, I believe your opinion is the most important. Also our marines(30,000) will be landing shortly and will be under your command. Thank You"

OOC: I've formulated an idea in order to take out the Raven Corps convoy. It will require that we strike first, and strike hard. I'd like a list of all the ships in your respective fleets.

Our Task Force cosists of:
2 Super Carriers 100 planes each(35 F-35s, 20 F-14s, 45 F-18s)
2 Carriers 80 planes each(25 F-35s, 20 F14s, 35 F-18s)
4 Battleships
12 Cruisers(armed with 35 Harpoon anti-ship missiles, 15 Cruise Missiles, 58 anti-aircraft missiles, anti-missile turrets,1 5inch cannon)
10 Frigates(20 Harpoon anti-ship missiles, 35 anti-aircraft missiles, anti-missile turrets, 3inch cannon)
9 Destroyers(15 Harpoon anti-ship missles, 35 anti-aircraft missiles, anti-missile turrets)
50 mine sweepers
5 Subs(50 torpedos, 45 tube launched Harpoon Missiles)

We sent more ships than originally offered, we were not sure of the enemy strength so we wanted to be "safe".

Thank you Admiral,we will direct your forces after any missiles hit.As for your idea you may go ahead and plant the mines.

We have these forces currently in Frenzian waters
Mahria
Warriors Widow hospital ship
three Piranha-class submarines

Twitch2395
Super Carriers 100 planes each(35 F-35s, 20 F-14s, 45 F-18s)
2 Carriers 80 planes each(25 F-35s, 20 F14s, 35 F-18s)
4 Battleships
12 Cruisers(armed with 35 Harpoon anti-ship missiles, 15 Cruise Missiles, 58 anti-aircraft missiles, anti-missile turrets,1 5inch cannon)
10 Frigates(20 Harpoon anti-ship missiles, 35 anti-aircraft missiles, anti-missile turrets, 3inch cannon)
9 Destroyers(15 Harpoon anti-ship missles, 35 anti-aircraft missiles, anti-missile turrets)
50 mine sweepers
3 Subs(50 torpedos, 45 tube launched Harpoon Missiles)
Usea-Jason
1xHeavy Carrier(Flagship,The Red Star III)
1xIowa Class Battleship(Iruossim)
2xLight Carriers(November Storm,Arcangel)
6xDestroyers,Various Classes

Alistan
2 Illeana Vassili aircraft carriers
8 DDX
16 Ticonderoga-class cruisers
4 Seawolf attack subs
16 Arleigh Burke class destroyers

Grabarzski
3 Aircraft Carriers- 8 Tomcats, Defense missiles
2 Subs
3 Battleships

I have sent the location of the blockade so all forces can link up.From land I am sending 50 F/A-22 Raptor,they will rotate on and off the carrier.Now we will have 50 aircraft in the air at all times.

Message from the aircraft carrier Freedom
To all ships at the blockade
We are 2 hours away your location

Twich 2395

OOC:lol you spelt my name wrong.

In order to augment your F-22s, we'll send up the same number of our experimental F/A-35 Talons to help reconnisance. These planes are capable of Mach 5.8, a ceiling height of 150,000 feet, can carry 12 missiles and has the radar cross-section of a few pelicans clumbed together.

(If you've seen the movie Stealth, that's the plane that the three Navy pilots fly.)

As to our carrier group, we've arrived in Frenzian waters and are setting up in order to intercept the Raven Corps convoy.

In order to augment your F-22s, we'll send up the same number of our experimental F/A-35 Talons to help reconnisance. These planes are capable of Mach 5.8, a ceiling height of 150,000 feet, can carry 12 missiles and has the radar cross-section of a few pelicans clumbed together.

(If you've seen the movie Stealth, that's the plane that the three Navy pilots fly.)

OOC: Those planes are awsome, where can i get some??? Could i buy them from you??? Even if it is just one...

OOC:I would be ok with using those but I don't know about Raven Corps.

OOC:I would be ok with using those but I don't know about Raven Corps.
OOC: he does have a point(can i still buy one?)

OOC:I have some homework to do, so ill be back later.

OOC: Those planes are awsome, where can i get some??? Could i buy them from you??? Even if it is just one...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=435395

And only for 42 million each! WAT A DEAL!

OOC: The Aircraft in stealthwould be considered PMT. but I wontg have a problem if you bumb them down some....

Also remember any missile fired at the ICBM's will be intercepted by the Interceptors missiles that are escorting them. and the aircraft that are also thier. This is just a first wave. Their will be more.

OOC: The Aircraft in stealthwould be considered PMT. but I wontg have a problem if you bumb them down some....

Also remember any missile fired at the ICBM's will be intercepted by the Interceptors missiles that are escorting them. and the aircraft that are also thier. This is just a first wave. Their will be more.

ooc: with the stats he provided for the F-35... its deep PMT.

OOC:ya but if he takes them down a notch or two I dont care to much.

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-Missile destroyer


Colderon got word of the Fleets sent to intercept his. His thoughts wondered and his soluation came. He would have to use the forces that attacked Gallosim. It consisted of 20 aircraft carriers with 200 Orca transports and 30 Black widows, 20 destroyers, 30 Troop tranport ships with about which could hold about 1000 troops per ship. And it had an augmentation of 40 Super Tiger Subs. each with limited range missile that had Ventum 4 already pre-loaded. colderon got on his phone as fast as he could and ordered that the attacking forces stop and take defensvie position and wait for the other fleet.

The Fleet commander recieved the order just as he came into the bridge. He automaticly ordered everyone to wait. The ships and transports slowed, then stopped and waited.

( meanwhile....Secret IC:)

Three transport didn't stop they had other orders. They where the Elite team. Personnel guards of the first CEO. Jason Zion. They only answered to Jason. The team took another route to the nation that took them around the interception forces. The transport finally made land contact. A small twon was in the view. The transport stopped short of the town so the team could go in quitely....

To: General Howe

This is the last message I will be sending you, due to the fact that I have other things to do. I will be handing overleadership for the effort to, General of the Army, Philip Johnson, Admiral of the Navy, Lee Tristein, and General of the Air Force, Frank Kenneth Grabarz Jr, my father, a damn good leader. I have updated the supplies i sent you and could be viewed on the original thread. I wish you the best of luck in this war, and I want to let you know that you are in good hands. God Speed All Of You!

-Frank Kenneth Grabarz III
Secretary of Defense of the Democratic Republic of Grabarzski

Highly Secret IC:
The ships that were coming to Frenzia have stopped.We want to let them come to us.We would like to send subs forward to weaken the defense before we attack.Also we have picked up ships that have landed in eastern Frenzia,we have dispatched a company to them.Or two fleets of ships will be joining you shortly.

Signed General Howe


Message from the FNS
We are about to join up with you,we would like to extend our blockade between our offshore radar stations to prevent more forces from entering Frenzia.We have been sent word from the FNS Edwards that they will be traveling to the far left of the blockade.



The company of soldiers had just pulled into town.5 Apache helicopters flew over looking for the men that had landed.


OOC The ships that went far left are;
Third Carrier Battle Group
1 Kitty Hawk ACC
2 Ticonderoga Class
3 DD-963 SPRUANCE-class
1 Overlord Class Air Defence Frigates
2 Los Angeles class attack submarines
1 Supply class fast combat support ship

The company of soldiers is;


Alpha Company (ACoy)

Platoon 1
12 M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank (48 men)

Platoon 2
15 Light Armored Vehicle- Air Defense (45 men)

Platoon 3
1 M4 Command and Control Vehicle (10 men)
2 (M88A2 Tank Recovery Vehicles)(6 men)
4 Stryker APCs (8 men)

Highly Secret IC:

I think that maybe we should deploy the minefield directly ahead of them and let them run into it before we attack.

Twitch2395 and Frenzia, it would be best if you could scramble some more fighters, we may have a problem with the Black Widows that he's sent. I currently have 175 Talons, with (hopefully) many more on the way.

Numonica

The Grand Admiral of the 2nd Kraven Naval Battle Group, The "Red October" prepared for war, their Crew of inhuman Capitol Police were always ready, and In the next hour the Group would take to open seas...

The Kraven Military had been monitoring the conflict for some time now, and generaly had been watching the mass of ships make way for their blockade point...

The Pittifull amount of ships that had mustered there would be swept aside by the Sheer force and Aggressiveness of the Kraven Navy, their Blockade would soon be crushed by the depths of the sea, and their land Taken by the Feared Capitol Police, the Inhuman Killing machines that would butcher entire villages, or Nations if the orders were given...

The Admiral, a Tall man, in his late 50's Stood at the helm of his bridge while a young helms-man prepared the ship to depart, the Super Dreadnought, "The Morbid Angel" was the Pinnicle of the 2nd battlefleet along with its sister Super Dreadnaught, "The Mourning Palace"...

The First ships of the Battlefleet, Small Cruisers headed out of port first, However ahead of these were Torment Class submarines, these were the scouts, they would move ahead probing for enemy units, other submarines and various other means at attacking the fleet...

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OOC:
Battlefleet Breakdown:

2x "Annihilator Class" Super Dreadnaughts
4x "Emperia Class" Battleships
3x "Gorgoroth Class" Super Carriers
23x "Immortal Class " Battlecruisers
25x "Marduk Class" Missile Destroyers
30x "Mayhem Class" Destroyers
15x "Mimir Class" Tracking Ships
40x "Apotheosis Class" Cruisers
11x "Torment Class" Nuclear Submarines

56th Capitol Police Sturmpanzer Battalion
(See Factbook for Detailed Description of The Capitol Police and Number Break down)

150 Interceptors, 50 Torpedo Bombers, 50 Bombers, 50 Transports (Per Super Carrier) Note: Aircraft are VTOLS.

To: Raven corps
From: Her Imperial Highness, Serena, Empress of The Imperial Republic of Hataria, Empress of South China, Mayor of Hong Kong, Queen of Spain, Queen of Cuba, Queen of Algeria, Queen of Cuba, etc.

Greetings.

We have decided to Help you fight the upstart fleet that the upstart Frenzia and his Upstart Allies. We in Hataria hope that you will win in this war and be repected by all Nations.

Signed, Empress Serena

I agree all forces should lay mines as fast as they can.I can have a bomber wing out to sea in about 7 hours.However I will only send them when Raven Corps advances.


8th Bomber Wing
25 B-1 Lancer Bombers

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Security Forces


The team of soldiers that landed heard the sound of the choppers and the troops in the town.

" Damn, they where ready for us. And I wanted to do this quitely. No matter. Men I want 10 of you and the *P.S.L.S.'s and take aim at the choppers, and I want 10 more with thier P.S.L.S. loaded with Nemesis-9. We'll take it by extreme force. Remember We are not soldier we are a security force. I want everything dead if it doesn't have our symbol, or that of an ally." said Sec general Markus

A quite "hoooop" came from the men close to the commander. the team began to move, and move fast. With the men in thier spots the men took aim and fire at the same time, the rockets fling forth with great speed. Once they where fired the rest of the team of PSLS users fired thier missiles into the town. The virus would take affect of anyone that was near the town. the troops of Raven corps had suits to keep them safe, and it let them kill with haste.....


* PSLS= Personel Sam launch system.

ooc see factbook http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread....1#post10236461, we're an island nation

IC
Secret transmission to: SuperDreadnought "Morbid Angel"
From: Dominion of New Industria
Please transmit this message to your superiors upon its reception, Admiral.
The Dominion is well aware that the might of the Kraven Navy needs no aid in pursuing its goals... however our causes are somewhat aligned. The Isle of Durnham and the surrounding archepelago, which is not far from your fleet's current postion, is under Corporate Dominion control. Our shores are heavily fortified and while we lack a navy the size and breadth of your own, we have plentiful resources and the equiptment needed to repair damaged ships and equiptment. We offer to the Kraven Corporation our shores as a foward naval base for the time being, as a symbol of our good will towards the Coporation. Perhaps after your current campaign ends a dialouge between our alike governments may develop.
- Chairman Desmond Kain

ooc see factbook http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread....1#post10236461, we're an island nation

IC
Secret transmission to: SuperDreadnought "Morbid Angel"
From: Dominion of New Industria
Please transmit this message to your superiors upon its reception, Admiral.
The Dominion is well aware that the might of the Kraven Navy needs no aid in pursuing its goals... however our causes are somewhat aligned. The Isle of Durnham and the surrounding archepelago, which is not far from your fleet's current postion, is under Corporate Dominion control. Our shores are heavily fortified and while we lack a navy the size and breadth of your own, we have plentiful resources and the equiptment needed to repair damaged ships and equiptment. We offer to the Kraven Corporation our shores as a foward naval base for the time being, as a symbol of our good will towards the Coporation. Perhaps after your current campaign ends a dialouge between our alike governments may develop.
- Chairman Desmond Kain

In Response:

From: Grand Admiral of The Battlefleet "Red October"
To: Chairman Desmond Kain

We thankyou for your offer, we will be sure to take full advantage, in future situations such as this, we will look upon your nation with a Kinder approach.

Additional Ships and Aircraft are being moved to your Location.

The Grand Admiral

The Battlefleet was making good headway now, The Bows of various ships rose gently in the crest of the wave before ploughing back down into the trough, the Sea wasn't rough, but it was neither Calm...

The Admiral was concentrating on the Battle at hand, going over tactics with his Officers..

"We Will make a four tier Defensive ring, putting the Escorts and Cruisers on the outside, The Submarines will patrol, or engage the enemy Supply ships, while are own are protected by a series of Cruisers and Destroyers..." He was tapping at the map on his desk, while looking up to speak to the officers...

"I agree Admiral, we can pull our large Battle Cruisers to the Second and third Tier, while our Super Dreadnaughts and Super Carriers remain in the centre, protected from Missiles and enemy Air craft..." One officer added... while moving the models of the Carriers and Dreadnaughts to the centre of the ring...

"I agree, Our Interceptors can Harrass the Enemy planes, while our torpedo bombers attack thier Supply Transports, if we cut of their Supplies, their Blockade is pretty much Usless.." the Admiral continued...

"Yes, If we Cripple their supplies, then we can always go around the Blockade without fear of Reprisle..."

"That is hoping the Damned AKA havn't got wind of this, Hopefully it will remain very low key, We can't risk grabbing unwanted attention... The Longer we are bogged down with the blockade... The More likely the AKA will notice..."

"Agreed.." The Officers all spoke in unision...

ETA 6 Hours...

[OOC: I hope it’s not presumptuous of me to become involved in this RP, if it is I will delete my post.]

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Diplomatic Ecclesiastical Message

To: The Kraven Filth
From: His Most Worthy High Ecclesiarchy of the Eternal Republic of Holy Xirnium

Greetings, foul demons of the Corporation.

Your filthy fleets are hereby commanded to turn back immediately from their unholy and naked aggression towards Frenzia, a nation now under the sacred protection of Holy Xirnium and its august High Ecclesiarchy.

Should you fail in any way to fulfil this dictate, expect the wrath of righteous fury of the High Ecclesiarchy to descend in full force upon your heathen soldiers. I promise you that not one of those foul abominations you name Capital Police will survive your latest unholy endeavour. Nought but suffering and death will you find on the hallowed grounds of Frenzia, that and eternal torment in the fires of damnation.

Venerate the Immortal God-Emperor!

[Signed]
High Lord Ertham Nidor (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a25/Dennis134/GrandCardinal.jpg)
Grand Cardinal and Chief Minister of the High Ecclesiarchy of Holy Xirnium

[OOC: I hope it’s not presumptuous of me to become involved in this theatre, if it is I will delete my post.]

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Diplomatic Ecclesiastical Message

To: The Kraven Filth
From: His Most Worthy High Ecclesiarchy of the Eternal Republic of Holy Xirnium

Greetings, foul demons of the Corporation.

Your filthy fleets are hereby commanded to turn back immediately from their unholy and naked aggression towards Frenzia, a nation now under the protection of Holy Xirnium and its august High Ecclesiarchy.

Should you fail in any way to fulfil this dictate, expect the wrath of righteous fury of the High Ecclesiarchy to descend in full force upon your heathen soldiers. I promise you that not one of those foul abominations you name Capital Police will surive your unholy endeavour. Nought but suffering and death will you find on the hallowed grounds of Frenzia, that and eternal torment in the fires of damnation.

Venerate the Immortal God-Emperor!

[Signed]
High Lord Ertham Nidor (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a25/Dennis134/GrandCardinal.jpg)
Grand Cardinal and Chief Minister of the High Ecclesiarchy of Holy Xirnium


The Totalitarian Military State of The Kraven Corporation

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/HorusGodEmperor/Flags.jpg

You Stand alone in your Endeavours, And we will not waste a Mere Second in wiping your forces from existence should they get involved in this Incident... you don't have your Allies to back your forces now and as such, The Outcome will be different...

Mark my words, Xirnium... You won round one... But when round two comes I will Make sure personaly that your Nation is burnt to the ground, and every one of your Citizens Flayed alive... while your Women are in perpeptual Agony at The Capitol Police Breeding Plants...

The Attack Continues...

The High Command
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OOC: The Galliosm Fleet will be reaching you soon Kraven.....

The men entered the town and turned the corner facing the Raven Corps men.The Apaches flew over.Rockets shot up smashing the helicopters and leaving them to fall creating a barrier between Raven Corps and Frenzia.More rockets were fired.None of the men knew, but the rockets held Nemesis-9.This could be the start of a huge problem.The rockets destroyed many tanks but the battle was not over.The remaining tanks pulled up to the helicopter barricade and fired.A few kilmeters away more attack helicopters were coming.

More Forces
10 Apache Helicopters

Losses so far
8 Tanks
32 men

Xirnium
Thank you for your message of support

OOC:you can get involveld if you want,bring a big navy.I'm sorry for not posting often but school is becoming a pain.

The tank fire that hit the down choppers exploded and throw about 100 men into the air as a result. But this did not stop the forces of Raven corps. More of the men that fired the missiles had reloaded and where taking aim at the remaining tanks in the area. And agian the men fired thier missiles. The rockets where off.

On the battlefield. The raven corps forces had taken hold of a small part of the town and begun to force civilians from thier homes to take positions in front of them. The men of Raven corps knew that these people where going to die anyways because of the virus. But They also knew that they could be used as shields as well. Mainly women and children where used and the men where forced to be scouts for Raven corps men. Other Troops engaged the tanks and human forces in the town its self. Gun fire and the sound of tanks could be heard anywhere close to the town.

( at the transports)


" This is Transport 56-alpha We are requesting that 80 quadrado's and 50 Talons be sent to the current location I am sending......

the request that they be loaded with AP rounds."


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" This is Raven Talon 7 your request is a go. they should be thier within the next hour or so."


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" Roger, going silent."



OOC:
quadrado-

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-Talon
http://halo-hq.net/images/killzone-versjoner_375455e.jpg


- the civilian round up.
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The Kraven Fleet was making headway, The Bows of various ships continued their gentle movement as the ships ploughed on through the waters...

The Admiral was stood watching the Waters ahead, The Reichmarshal was still watching, silently at the back of the Bridge... ensuring it was going to plan...

The Admiral like all the other Admirals before him, was sure to hide his true feelings, The Secret Police and their inhuman lap dogs The Capitol Police wouldn't hesitate in slaughtering the Crew and taking control of the Mission...

"Admiral, We Picking up the Enemy blockade on long range Radars, Our Missile Destroyers are in range.... Should I order them to open fire?" A young Officer spoke... still holding the Phone to his ear...

"Order the Missile Destroyers to lay down a barrage of Antishipping missiles, Targeting their Supply Ships, If we can Cripple their Ability to Resupply then We will already have completed half our task.." The Admiral spoke without once turning around, his gaze fixed onto the waters...

The Order came through, Each Captain of the The Missile destroyers that were spaced out across the fleet opened fire, Their Missile Tubes ejecting a Missile, chasing the missile were great plumes of Smoke and fire as the missile was sent to their respective targets, Each Missile tube was reloaded by an Autoloading system, and proceeded to Fire that missile, Each ship fired a succession of missiles towards their targets...

The First salvo was of 30 Missiles, a Test to see What the enemy blockade was capable of....

OOC: hate to do this, but TAG. the thread tools link aint workin for me... sorry guys.

More tanks had been fired at sending smoke and charred metal high into the air.So far none of the LAVs had been hit but this changed as a barrage of rockets smashed head first into three LAVs.An officer was directing the vehicles to get behind the rubble and take aim when the radio cracked with static.

''Alpha Company this is Sunray message over.''
The officer spoke into the radio''Go ahead.''
''We need a sitrep over.''
''Ah we have lost almost all of our men over.''
''Understood,pull out,the Apaches flying over will try to clear out the forces that are not in the town yet.I'm sending reinforcements,we are going to surround the town over.
''Ok.''The officer was happy to be pulling out.
''Good,out.''The radio went silent.

The officer turned and shouted.''FIRE.'' he yelled and what was left of the LAVS took aim and fired.''FALL BACK'' he yelled and the vehicles began backing up,getting ready to leave the city.

Forces Lost
4 M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank (16 men)
3 Light Armored Vehicle- Air Defense(9 men)
Remaining forces
12 Light Armored Vehicle- Air Defense
1 M4 Command and Control Vehicle (10 men)
2 (M88A2 Tank Recovery Vehicles)(6 men)
4 Stryker APCs (8 men)
Reinforcements
4th Armored Battalion
Alpha Company(A Coy)
Platoon 1
12 M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank (48 men)

Platoon 2
15 Light Armored Vehicle- Air Defense (45 men)

Platoon 3
6 M88A2 Tank Recovery Vehicles (18 men)
6 Stryker APCs (24 men)
Bravo Company (B Coy)

Platoon 1
12 M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank (48 men)
Platoon 2
12 M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank (48 men)
Platoon 3
12 M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank (48 men)
Charlie Company (C Coy)

Platoon 1
10 Light Armored Vehicle-Anti Tank(40 men)
Platoon 2
2 M4 Command and Control Vehicle(10 men)
Platoon 3
12 M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank (48 men)
Logistics Platoon Alpha
25 LVSRs(50 men)
10 BTR 80 APC 7(50 men)
8 D-7 Bulldozers(8 men)
8 TRAMs(8 men)

Alpha Artillery Battery
5 105mm Howitzers
Bravo Artillery Battery
5 105mm Howitzers
Charlie Artillery Battery
5 105mm Howitzers
Apache Wing 16
15 AH-64 Apache
5 RAH-66 Comanche Helicopters

At Sea
''Sir we have picked up incoming missiles,I don't see any ships on our radar sir.''A radar officer had just burst into the room.''
''Ok lets get those missiles intercepted first,the I want our LAMPS helicopters to fly far out,find these ships so we can move to intercept them.And send a message to the other ships let them know what is going on.''
Missiles shot off the ships heading straight towards the incoming missiles.The SH-60B LAMPS Mark III Helicopters moved forward to find the ships.

The Imperial Nicksyllvanian Navy arrived in Frenzian Waters.

Battle Fleet Size:
6 Retribution Class Carriers
8 Eviscerator Class Battleships
16 Revenge Class Cruisers
32 Revolution Class Destroyers
180 Transport Barges

Air Force Size:
200 Mig-33s
100 Su-25
140 Su-24

Landing Force Size:
3 Marine Corps (Approx 165,000men, 3600 NT-2 MBTs, 4800 Artillery)

"Sir, we have detected our allies, The Kraven Battle Fleet up ahead."
"Excellent, send the Aircraft Carriers, Taiho and Musashi to assist them. Launch the Migs and Renaissance planes, according to our statelite map, the beach should be that way"
"Affirmative Sir, May the Imperium be Eternal"

the battle took its toll on the Raven forces. Men who where in fire fights and battles tanks toom fire and men died. Raven offically reports that

A total of 145 security forces have died in the war against Frenzia.


(In the town.)

General Markus knew something was not right. A force of good size just doen't pick up and leave. He ordered that All civilains be rounded up and kept inside Raven ranks. Also that the PSMS's should be laoded and ready for any kind of attack, from either Land or air. Sec General Markus was a great defensive master and knew how to hold a city. Raven corps forces where aslo oredered to find and " Convert" all of the males in the town. The first group of them where taken to tents where they came out as Loyal members of the Raven corp staff . Most where given weapons to attack other in the city that where holding out and fighting back. Soon after much of the main fighting had stopped the Talons and Quad's arrived. And so did some much needed supplies and reinforcments.

" Want in Gods green hell took you so long getting here?" asked Sec. Gen. Markus as he welcomed the new men.

" Terrian sir. We had to find a new insertion point your first one had been found and would no longer serve us as a good one." replied the commander of the new men and tanks.

" Well, Fine. Next time you guys keep me waiting I swear I will kill you myself." the General replied.

" understood General" smerked the commander.

the Talons took places around the main Forces of Raven corps and the Quad's took positions farther out to overlap cover.

Highly Secret IC:

I think that maybe we should deploy the minefield directly ahead of them and let them run into it before we attack.

Twitch2395 and Frenzia, it would be best if you could scramble some more fighters, we may have a problem with the Black Widows that he's sent. I currently have 175 Talons, with (hopefully) many more on the way.

We are scrambling fighters now.

Meanwhile, 250 C-130s, and 100 C-130 Spectors cruised at 30,000ft. Inside one of the noisy planes, Sq Sgt Mason sat near the ramp, accompanying him were 35 other men. "Hey Janes!" he yelled to the man sitting across from him, "When are we supposed to be reenforced on the ground?", "I dont know," jane said, "Healy(the company commander) said that an armored another armored marine battalion would be landing within 24 hours of th' jump, give or take a few hours." "Thanks, but I sure as hell hope its sooner rather than later."

About 20 minutes later, Lt. Doland got a message from the pilot, "Lt. Doland we are aproaching the DZ." "Roger" "Happy landings" "Thanks". "Alright everyone this is it." "Hey Lt. is the genral' jumpin' with us?" "Yes he is Baker" "Wow what a brave genral'" Then Staff Sgt Card shouted, "Shut up Baker we have a job to do!" "Stand up!" Doland shouted, everyone stood up, "Check your equipment!", "Sound off!" "1 ok", "2 ok", "3 ok", "4 ok", etc...
Doland turned around and hit the switch to lower the ramp. As the ramp opened Mason coundn't help but wonder how he had gotten them himself into this mess. "We have a green light lets go!" Mason jumped first, and fell into the cold night air. As he fell everything was quite until his chute opened. As he drifted towards the ground, he could not figure out why this jump was different, it was the same as the hundreds of jumps he had made before, it was with the same men, well except for Reed, who had been injured in a practice jump a month ago before the... war... He relized that nothing in his life had prepaired him for this moment, not all of the best training, the practice, the mental preparation, he relized that this could be the last day of his life...

OOC:at which point are you dropping? because if its near me forces tjhose planes would have been hit by my H.A.E.S.B- or- High altiude Emp sam batteries on my ships.

<"Renessance reports are back sir, however we lost 1 Mig who went too far inland"
"Insignificant, now let us see the report. Hmm, it seems more heavily defended then anticipated. Send in the Callassian 1st and 4th Marine Regiment towards Beach point A to distract their main force, our colonies are expendable. Send in Marine Regiments 2 to 5 at Beach point B, and Marine Divisions 8 to 10 to Beach Point C."
"Immediately sir">

Transport Barges swarmed with activity, men climbed upon the landing craft, with 3 squads to a boat, or a MBT and a Squad in the Larger ones. Thanks to strict imperial discipline, all landing craft were ready and on their way to their targets within the hour.

Corporal Takeshi checked his rifle, his AN-22 was in good condition, especially since the new rifle design used caseless ammunition. The old assault rifles were prone to jamming, from his experience these new ones were quite an improvement. The Lieutenant shouted for attention, he immediatly stood up and firm
"Comrades, We are about to assault the shores of Frenzia. The Frenzian people have started the war, but do not blame them, they are uneducated mongoloids, It is up to us, The Glorious Imperium to teach them and to strengthen them with our values and ideology. As primitive as the Frenzians may be, they still have weaponry given to them by cowardly country, who refuse to face us properly and use backhanded tactics, however Comrades, do not fear Death, Death is inevitable, The most noble thing you can do with you life is to use your life to the benefit of our great and glorious country, with the blood we shed, our country will be strengthered. May the Imperium be Eternal!"
Takeshi yelled the last sentence with pride, Frenzia need to be taught that they are weak, only the strong will survive in the world. Nicksyllvania is strong, or will be soon. Then a green light flashed, it was time.
"Comrades, 30 seconds till landing, Fix Bayonets!"
He Snapped the 30cm long blade onto his rifle, as old fashioned as it was, it still had uses. He heard cannons firing, the cannon and turret machinegun on the Landing craft added to the inferno. Migs also fired at the coastal defences. The enemies will be a pushover after this he thought.
"5 seconds, prepare to charge, Hail The Emporer, Hail Nicksyllvania"
The door flipped open, and Takeshi charged forward with his platoon.

Casualty list:
2 mig-33 (2 men)
3 landing craft (87 men)
1 tank (3 men)

Total: 91 Deaths

bump for Frenzia.....

OOC: right, count me in now pretty much, i did post elsewhere but i didnt spot the "good guys" thread, so i'll just blunder in on the goodguy side "unintentionally", unless the "good guy" players really dont want me...

IC: NSAA deploys several light attack groups formed from patrolling craft to scout the positions of the invader fleets. also, combat units already on low alert due to the tocrowkia situation are being brought to full alert status and several are being mobilized to move to this area if they are required. also, all NSAA naval forces withdraw from patrols to mass in three different groups. one is between NSAA itself and the area of the conflict with tocrowkia, the second is forming near NSAA and preparing to sail to this area, and the third is split around remote NSAA naval bases throughout the world with some few elements moving to augment the naval units permanently assigned to defend the homeland.
The nation as a whole is also upgrading from alert status yellow (possible small-medium scale war, low likelyhood of homeland involvement) to alert status red (major war with high risk of homeland involvement if it isnt already under attack or multiple conflicts of yellow alert level) and the equipment for the reserves is being brought to full readiness.

OOC: can everyone with a naval presence clarify what its doing and where it is please. also, i'm off to bed cos i need sleep. i'll work out what forces you get to meet tomorrow...

The Other Raven flet had finally reached sight of the Kraven/Raven/ New nick fleet. The commander of the fleet known as Admiral Coree. And agressive seaman who stopped for no one. His fleet pulled in and hail the Kraven ships...

" This is Admiral Coree I am the Gallo Fleet sent to help. I need full tactical data on what ever it is that we are waiting on..."


Augmented Gallo fleet:


20 aircraft carriers with 200 Orca transports and 30 Black widows, 20 destroyers,30 carriers with 30 Black widow per, 30 Troop tranport ships with about which could hold about 1000 troops per ship. And it had an augmentation of 40 Super Tiger Subs. each with limited range missile that had Ventum 4 already pre-loaded.
Raven corps primary assualt fleet

3000 Orca dropships loaded with 50 security forces lifted off and were escorted but 150 YF23 Black widows, and about 30 missile destroyers

The hurriedly assembled NSAA navy task force sails for the conflict area. it consists of an assortment of craft including 2 Warspite class battleships, the command cruiser Dignity, 7 Ark Royal class aircraft carriers (ooc: not the RL ones), and 16 achillies class escort carriers.
(ooc: that fleet will turn up shortly after the start of the naval engagement, if one happens soon, or at some point on monday.)

OOC: For someone with a large pupluation you dont have to many posts. Did you just start or are you just not very active?- No_state_at_all


Raven corps would now have to pull out the big guns. With Navel forces gathering, the engagment of the ages was about to blow up. And Raven corps was going to make sure of it........

(Missile facility....)

The missile commander was sitting at his desk, salivating for a chance to give the word on a luanch. The missile facility was one of the most forward missile comand center for the Raven Corps security forces. Raven corps had been working on a working nuclear weapons that would fit in a small but fast and far traveling missile unit. The missile where called "Gods fingers", they where a nuclear weapon with a .5 kiloton explosion. They where the best tac. nuke that Raven corp had ever produced. The missiles could be straped to a bomber and could be dropped and guided to a target. The missile had a high burn engine and had a shutdown switch that would turn off the engine and let the missile go into a free glide mode which could let the operator move the missile in and not give a heat signiture away, Plus with the additional Radar cloaking emitter, most radar will see the missile as a sea gull.

the commander of the missile facitlity finally got his wish the call came in....

" Commander Trimal You are here by ordered to deploy 5 bombers the frenzia Combat zone- navel division. The missile are to attack all but Raven corps, and her allies. The strike map is being sent now...." Said a voice on the phone

The Commander heard his fax turnon and the map came out. is showed a five point attack zone one that would trap the blockade fleet and vaporize them.
The commander got on the speaker system on gave the orders. The base came to life and soon bombers had thier payload and where given strike orders. Soon the waters will boil.

- they should be thier in 2 N.S. days- 2 hrs RL

.

" This is Admiral Coree I am the Gallo Fleet sent to help. I need full tactical data on what ever it is that we are waiting on..."


The Kraven Naval Grand Admiral opened the Coms..

"This is the Kraven Battlegroup "Red October", We are not waiting on anything, The Fleet is about to Engage the Blockade Proper... A salvo of 30 Missiles has been fired in a Warning Salvo... we are Awaiting Combat data for Enemy Losses... Will Advise...."

OOC: keep trying to get into it, just to get stopped by something, like going home for hols, as i have no internet at home. :(

the town Raven Corps has captured
''They are doing what.''The new commander of all forces in the area was looking very angry.
''They are giving weapons to our people and getting them to fight and to top it all of the are placing civilians in their ranks,sir.''The man talking to him replied and ducked avoiding a metal cup the the commander had thrown.
''God Damn,leave our forces where they are,any tanks that come out are to be blown to bits,and our men are to fire at Raven Corps men only and any man that fires at them.All civilians should not be shot at if possible.''He said this and looked dpwn.He was very upset about this.
''And get some sniper,lets take these bastards down''

Added Forces
Yankee Frenzian Special Forces Platoon
25 highly trained special forces snipers

These men will hide outside the town and shoot in down roads.A few men will be placed on hills and will be able to shoot over most buildings into the town.

Beach Point A
Large Forces were almost at the Artillery pounded the water.Machine guns had begun to at the troops coming in.TOW launchers had been fired at any tank that had made it on the beach.They bombing from the planes had done a lot of damage but thanks to heavily reinforced cement bunkers many forces had survived.Attack helicopter that had survived the pounding flew forward and began firing at the men.

Beach Point B
There were far less men here.Many had not survived the bombings.Snipers crawled to hidden positions and fired at the troops coming on.What was left of the machine guns fired at the men coming on.A man had just received word to fall back to defense positons,air support was coming.10 F-4 Phantoms had been par\troling the area.They were told to wait to bomb everything that moved on beach point B.20 minutes away 15 AC-130s had been took off and flew towards the Beach Point B.

Beach Point C
This beach had also been heavily reinforced.Machine guns fired at the men charging off the landing craft.A few attack chopper flew forward and fired at the landing craft .The men defending had been hit hard by the air strike and were now heavly out numbered.The machine guns could still do some damage.TOW launchers fired at the tanks moving onto the beach.

War Room
Four men stood looking at a map of Frenzia.On the map there were miniature tanks and soldiers.The map showed what was going on in Frenzia,who had landed where and who was fighting them.
''Sir our outer ring of defense has been breached in many places and project tri shield won't help us it is not even done.''The General of the air force spoke up.
''I think we should stick to what we are doing it seems to be working,Raven Corps has not been able to get any farther.''The Admiral of the Navy spoke.
''Are you stupid,the blockade is going to be breached have men landing in 4 different places and your Navy cannot even intercept the ships coming in.''The General snapped back.
''Excuse me your air force is not doing its job,we had planes flying all over Frenzia.''
''Shut up both of you,your both right the Navy is not doing very well and the air force is not doing much better.I think we need to see what happens.All the beaches may not be breached and if not we can coordinate strikes against whatever we have left after they move onto the beaches.If we can't stop them getting on the beach we can bomb them so bad they won't want to be there.''

At Sea
''Sir,there is something on the Radar.''A man had been sitting watching the radar from the off shore station.''
''Looks like a few birds never mind it.''
''Sir those can't be birds,they are flying at us fast.....There gone.''
''What do you mean gone.''
''They just disappeared right from the screen.''
''This may be nothing but just in case inform the aircraft carriers in the area,tell them to send a few fighters to the area.''
''Sir thats a ways back form the enemy side of the blockade.''
''Yes,they can fly around and get there before they are in range of the enemy ships.''

At the same time most of the aircraft aboard the Frenzian carriers were getting ready to attack Also the Bomber wing deployed from land had taken off.The aircraft were ordered to take out all ships at the front of the blockade
Deployed Forces
25 B-1 Lancer Bombers
180 F/A-22 Raptor


OOC:My allies can bomb the blockade too.Send some subs or something.I'm going to wait for my allies to respond before a Rp any damage to the blockade

- Snip -

OOC: Not to get picky, But Losses from my Test Salvo?

Missiles fell onto the ships like rain.Some were intercepted but not many.

Losses
1 Supply class fast combat support ship
4 Land to Sea Supply Ships


OOC:I'm leaving it up to my allies to tally what was hit on their ships.I'll get into more detail after they reply

Missiles fell onto the ships like rain.Some were intercepted but not many.

Losses
1 Supply class fast combat support ship
4 Land to Sea Supply Ships


OOC:I'm leaving it up to my allies to tally what was hit on their ships.I'll get into more detail after they reply

OOC: Ok, Cool.. I wasn't sure if you'd picked up on it...

The Kraven Admiral had the Report come in, Several Supply ships had been hit, and according to reports sunk, Immeadiatly the Admiral Ordered the Battle Fleet to move into the Combat zone, Alarms sounded through out every Kraven Ship as they prepared to Engage the Enemy blockade, Optical Mags began targeting Vessels, using long range radar and various other optical equipment to locate the position of vessels, While Tracking ships, monitoring the Electromagnetic Spectrum pinpointed Command Vessels..

"Ensign..."

"Yes Admiral?"

"Order All Missile ships to open fire, Full Spread targeting Supply and Command Ships..."

"Understood"

In Unision each Missile Destroyer Opened fire, Each Missile was let loose with a torrent of flames and smoke, as each missile sped towards its target across the ocean, targeting the Blockades Various supply and Command vessels...

As Each missile was launched, A Second loaded and fires a few seconds afterwards, Meanwhile, the entire Kraven BAttlefleet was now moving into Range for its Naval Guns to go to work....

The Aircraft carriers were preparing to Lauch Interceptors, and quickly Squadrons were airborne, Giving Ample Air Cover to the various Ships below....

Hell was about to break Loose....

Raven corps not to be outdone. Also began to charge to blockade. Missile destroyers firing thier missiles one after another. Missiles lite up the sky like a firework show ending. Missile after missile streamed forth as to strike the enemy.

The Raven corps Carrirs let loose thier Black widows, to help in the assualt. Troop transport ships pushed forward. The Orca transports took long routes around the main blockade and began to head towards the town under Raven corps control.

The bombers where close and released thier payload. Five missiles shot off with great speed. And had engines at full burn for about 5 min. Soon after the engines stopped and large glide wings came out. The missiles where in free fall glide. But since the blockade had allies inside the blast zone the missiles would strike on the beaches that had not been landed on at the time and some would go on the hit larger cities.....

OOC: my fleet will turn up tomorrow RL time. cant post more now, must revise...

Beach Point A
Large Forces were almost at the Artillery pounded the water.Machine guns had begun to at the troops coming in.TOW launchers had been fired at any tank that had made it on the beach.They bombing from the planes had done a lot of damage but thanks to heavily reinforced cement bunkers many forces had survived.Attack helicopter that had survived the pounding flew forward and began firing at the men.

Beach Point B
There were far less men here.Many had not survived the bombings.Snipers crawled to hidden positions and fired at the troops coming on.What was left of the machine guns fired at the men coming on.A man had just received word to fall back to defense positons,air support was coming.10 F-4 Phantoms had been par\troling the area.They were told to wait to bomb everything that moved on beach point B.20 minutes away 15 AC-130s had been took off and flew towards the Beach Point B.

Beach Point C
This beach had also been heavily reinforced.Machine guns fired at the men charging off the landing craft.A few attack chopper flew forward and fired at the landing craft .The men defending had been hit hard by the air strike and were now heavly out numbered.The machine guns could still do some damage.TOW launchers fired at the tanks moving onto the beach.

<"Sir, our forces at Beach point A are taking heavy casaulties, however it does seem most of their forces are occupied here."
"Excellent, tell carrier Mutsu to initiate Operation Scorched Earth"
"uh... yes sir. Captain Shindo, commence Operation Scorched earth. Admiral, forgive me for asking, but what is this operaton?"
"We are sending 30 Migs to launch napalm missiles in a circle around Beach point A, the heat will obliberate all enemy forces tied up there."
"Sir, what about the Calassian regiments?
"Keep them there, if they retreat they will arouse suspision. They will be honored for doing their duty until the end, also send up more Migs to secure air superiority, I don't want anything to fuck us up"
"Yes, sir. News from Beach Point B says they are making significant progress, but are taking heavier losses then anticipated, and Beach Point C is making slower progress, but are still gaining land."
"Send in Marine Corps 14, 16,and 17 to reinforce Beach point B, after the fortifications are surpassed, initiate a flanking movement on Beach point C. Our other flank will be fine if Operation Scorched Earth goes according to plan."
"Yes sir.">

Corporal Takeshi slammed himself on the ground as a machine gun swept towards his squad. He pulled out a needle and injected himself with more Combat drugs to help calm his nerves and enhance concentration. The Machine gun swept pass to target another squad, seeing the opening clear Takeshi and his squad charged forward, gaining about 12 metres until the machine gun swept pass, hitting 2 of his men. A Tank came out of a Landing vessel, and fired its 140mm cannon, the machinegun went silent. A TOW missile swept passed, hitting the tank on its side, destroying its treads, another missile hit the sweet spot, right between the chasis and the turret, it exploded. With the Machine gun silenced the platoon charged forward.
Takeshi yelled, "Get those TOW missile launchers, so the tanks can come up!"

Losses:
Beach Point A:
634 Men
13 tanks (39 men)
Total: 673 men

Beach Point B:
184 Men
7 tanks (21 men)
Total: 205 men

Beach Point C:
304 Men
11 tanks (33 men)
Total: 337 men

Airforce:
9 Migs (9 Men)

Total Losses: 1224 men

OOC:at which point are you dropping? because if its near me forces tjhose planes would have been hit by my H.A.E.S.B- or- High altiude Emp sam batteries on my ships.

OOC:We took a round about route and we dropped way before the capitol but the planes can fly over the city now and get blown out of the air.(woo, death and destuction!!!)

OOC: you may think it is future tech.. but it ain't.. note full descriptions of the equipment is not provided.. if you are interested in more OOC information contact me
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IC SECRET COMMUNICATION TO FRENZIA:
The Holy Empire of Intracircumcordei is standing buy with stealth forces.

These stealth forces include:

hao Longxing a Aircraft Carrier Capital Ship Xing (Star) class Submersible Air-Sea-Land Carrier

Who's onboard fighting compliment includes
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40 CX-1

These are ‘the’ main all purpose transatmospheric fighters.. can operated underwater or above surface, optimized for air; however, best long term area operations is close to water.(even in space..but not deisgned as space fighters, they are designed as atmospheric fighters) (different operating capacities) (piloted or drone (person remote, ship AI or premissioned self tasked. See CX-1 . 4 of these craft can be launced every 5 seconds. (2 from each deck) all 40 craft can be launced in 3 minutes if ‘flawless’ however a safer time framed is between 5 and 10 minutes for all craft(for safe unguided / manual launches) a preconfigure launch order with AI compter system guidance will see a near flawless launch (depending on atmospheric or battle field conditions).


These devices can dash in from many miles out at sea entirely underwater, pop out of coastal waters close to their targets, and let loose the payloads before most aerial or space-based defenses can react. They are one of the fastest booster engine frames

8 CM-1 These are 8 repair drones that are not designed for combat, they are designed for maitence around the ship/repairs and such. They house the componenets for repair they are ‘VSTOL type submersible or air units (not overly fast) they also have a ‘soft track’ that sticks to the ships hull. They can also act as ‘recovery drones’ that is they have a winch for search and resucue hoisting etc. In addition to ship maitence they can also be used for underwater construction.

1 CT-1 This is a hypersonic transport generally not used however may be used for paratroop drop, mechanized power armor/robot drops, cargo/resupply. ??? It is a ‘dropship’ if for some reason fast resupply is required. Note for safety reasons this aircraft generally only lanchces from the ‘flightdeck surface’ due to the amount of output it has can ‘wear the hard pressure gate in the launch tunnel. In emergencies it can be lanched from the subsurface. This aircraft is submersible BUT is not designed for underwater flight.

Supmersible/Surface Landing Craft:

2 XN-CX-1 Companion subs – these are each 100 meters in length around 40 meters in width and 30 meters in height (4 decks) they are attached to the underside of the craft. They are used for supply and cargo and troop transports primarily. These craft allow for ‘more’ accessable entry ports where the super mother ship is not capable of fitting into (only a few ports can facilitate this xing class subs.) These subs each have 2 long range multiatomopsheric long range missles (can be launched from a depth of 100 meters.) 8 medium range missles (that can be launched from a depth of 50 meters) and 32 short range rockets that can be launched from 10 meters from the surface (all of these are smart bombs/missles) also a payload of 64 high speed cavaiat minitorpedos and two cavait flechette nanoburst rail guns with complete arc rotation capacity. All weapon systems are retractable. And all missles launchers are internal tubed. There is also the ‘main energy cannon’ which has full arc fire.. however takes time to rotate. The bulk of the ship is cargo space. (as the ships are primarily designed for transport not combat.

8 XN-TSSC-1 These 10 subs can open up a sealed lower compartment to release a hydrofoil shell which is ‘winched’ into position and pressurized the turbine/propulsion is dual role for underwater and ‘surface ‘jet usage. These are amphibious craft and can go ‘inland’ in addition to on the water surface.. or ‘deflate’ into submersible mode. 20 ‘people’ can fit into these craft or the 3 man crew + around 8 flight mechs(squeezed in) the pilot compartment is separate from the ‘cargo/transport compartment’ 10ft high+ hydrofoil shell by 40 ft long . 10 ft wide.

200 XN-IB-1

Inflatables (200 inflatable 6 man (unmotored) inflatable boats are in storage. There are adjustable gas compressors (which can be used for a variety of usages) at every main elevator/garage/vehicle area. It takes 4 seconds to fully inflate these craft(they are also self inflatable but take a minute or longer to harden by an aircompression vacume release. (when emptied the vacume reseals) (these can also serve as ‘life boats’ if required for if full capacity 1200 of the crew. Full evacuation via the inflatables would take up to 30 minutes. It would take 5-10 minutes to inflate them all at the right launch areas. The sides of the ship from the flight deck are ‘rounded’ enough to ‘slide down into’



Underwater Drones and Craft:
20 UD-1
short-range "subfighters" (supercaviated fast attack drones (these can be remote controlled or AI operated, or self preprogrammed engageable)

these craft have a payload of ‘mini’ torpedos and two medium range torpedo’s. they also have a gattling railgun with 1000 superalloy flechette supercaviated rounds (enough for 5 full bursts. (it looks like a solid sheet of rounds as they are fired one after another. Just behind the tips is a nanite compartment which releases nanites onto the contact surface, these nanites then start attacking the surface and continue attacking the surface for 30 minutes unless removed. Water is the fuel to the nantites and sodium idodide enhances the effect. (the work in fresh and salt water but ‘are active for longer in ionized salt water. (salt water acts as a complete battery) These will also work in air (however there has to be enough hydrogen and oxygen in the air mix)

8 NBDD-1

The NeoBioDolphiDrones are given a ‘flesh like coating and appear like ‘dolphins from a distance’ these drones however have a paylot of superfast minitorpedos armed with a number of small warheads. They powerplant ‘core’ minimics the body heat and other sensor outbuts as a dolphin or shark or other fish wouldwould. There are different ‘skins that can be put over top the drone depending on the ‘sea environment’. The most powerful warhead payload is minitacticle nuke. (I find it funny a dolphin can have minitactcle nukes inside its mouth. The ‘propulsion’ is masked based upon a bunch of different models. The max speed is within the range of ‘acceptable archtypes.. however it can go much faster if ‘the act is not important. These are generally used as surprise but also ‘recon’ communications range extension.. messaging(by physical). The range of these is supimented by mini hydrolosis plants which create a ‘spark’ then start to cataylse the water by harnessing a loop feedback current within the plant. The energy released by the turbine motion the hydrogen oxygen combustion plant submiment the energy so that very little overall potential energy is lost except that lost by conversion to kinetic energy. The miniloop magnetic cranks are a reduced two mode model of the large permamagnet electroconversion.

40 ROBOT MOLES
The Small Unmanned Ground Vehicle (SUGV) will scout tight spots--sewers, caves, tunnels. These are used on the ship to navigate and act as a drone for internal ship repairs ‘specifically for the Jeffries tubes. They also are capable of ‘patching’ into each weapons system. Act out mission parameters or act as a remote control intermediate to a ‘gunner’ if they wired connection is broken. These are used in ‘particularly’ dangerous. Or potentially dangerous situations. There is an attempt to balance human interaction and remote control skills in routine repairs and miatenence on the ship when they are required. These can operate on ‘ground’ and can naviate ‘adders and pipes through adhesive track hooks. If put on the bottom of a ‘not incredibly deep waterbody they can function as a scout.
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The fighting capacity has been extended on this mission to 100 experimental AI ROBOTS from our MECHANIZED ANDROID DIVISION (MAD)

and 10 MCT-1 mk II.

We have a number of special forces in orbit that can respond if required from our fast launch ground to orbit to ground SPACE TACTICAL SQUADS.

We also have satalite armed SCRAMJET HYBRID tactical nuclear weapons

We also can commit an unnumbered ammount of our CX-1's that can be armed with NUETRONBOMB or standard nuclear payloads, or biological or chemical weapons if so required.


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We have allowed our NUETRON BOMB or THERMONUCLEAR weapons capacity to be deployed if so required.

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We wait for word on how you would like our forces to be used against these inhumane forces.

Commander An Ts'ao Meng

OOC: you may think it is future tech.. but it ain't.. note full descriptions of the equipment is not provided.. if you are interested in more OOC information contact me
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IC SECRET COMMUNICATION TO FRENZIA:
The Holy Empire of Intracircumcordei is standing buy with stealth forces.

These stealth forces include:

hao Longxing a Aircraft Carrier Capital Ship Xing (Star) class Submersible Air-Sea-Land Carrier

Who's onboard fighting compliment includes
_______________________________________
40 CX-1

These are ‘the’ main all purpose transatmospheric fighters.. can operated underwater or above surface, optimized for air; however, best long term area operations is close to water.(even in space..but not deisgned as space fighters, they are designed as atmospheric fighters) (different operating capacities) (piloted or drone (person remote, ship AI or premissioned self tasked. See CX-1 . 4 of these craft can be launced every 5 seconds. (2 from each deck) all 40 craft can be launced in 3 minutes if ‘flawless’ however a safer time framed is between 5 and 10 minutes for all craft(for safe unguided / manual launches) a preconfigure launch order with AI compter system guidance will see a near flawless launch (depending on atmospheric or battle field conditions).


These devices can dash in from many miles out at sea entirely underwater, pop out of coastal waters close to their targets, and let loose the payloads before most aerial or space-based defenses can react. They are one of the fastest booster engine frames

8 CM-1 These are 8 repair drones that are not designed for combat, they are designed for maitence around the ship/repairs and such. They house the componenets for repair they are ‘VSTOL type submersible or air units (not overly fast) they also have a ‘soft track’ that sticks to the ships hull. They can also act as ‘recovery drones’ that is they have a winch for search and resucue hoisting etc. In addition to ship maitence they can also be used for underwater construction.

1 CT-1 This is a hypersonic transport generally not used however may be used for paratroop drop, mechanized power armor/robot drops, cargo/resupply. ??? It is a ‘dropship’ if for some reason fast resupply is required. Note for safety reasons this aircraft generally only lanchces from the ‘flightdeck surface’ due to the amount of output it has can ‘wear the hard pressure gate in the launch tunnel. In emergencies it can be lanched from the subsurface. This aircraft is submersible BUT is not designed for underwater flight.

Supmersible/Surface Landing Craft:

2 XN-CX-1 Companion subs – these are each 100 meters in length around 40 meters in width and 30 meters in height (4 decks) they are attached to the underside of the craft. They are used for supply and cargo and troop transports primarily. These craft allow for ‘more’ accessable entry ports where the super mother ship is not capable of fitting into (only a few ports can facilitate this xing class subs.) These subs each have 2 long range multiatomopsheric long range missles (can be launched from a depth of 100 meters.) 8 medium range missles (that can be launched from a depth of 50 meters) and 32 short range rockets that can be launched from 10 meters from the surface (all of these are smart bombs/missles) also a payload of 64 high speed cavaiat minitorpedos and two cavait flechette nanoburst rail guns with complete arc rotation capacity. All weapon systems are retractable. And all missles launchers are internal tubed. There is also the ‘main energy cannon’ which has full arc fire.. however takes time to rotate. The bulk of the ship is cargo space. (as the ships are primarily designed for transport not combat.

8 XN-TSSC-1 These 10 subs can open up a sealed lower compartment to release a hydrofoil shell which is ‘winched’ into position and pressurized the turbine/propulsion is dual role for underwater and ‘surface ‘jet usage. These are amphibious craft and can go ‘inland’ in addition to on the water surface.. or ‘deflate’ into submersible mode. 20 ‘people’ can fit into these craft or the 3 man crew + around 8 flight mechs(squeezed in) the pilot compartment is separate from the ‘cargo/transport compartment’ 10ft high+ hydrofoil shell by 40 ft long . 10 ft wide.

200 XN-IB-1

Inflatables (200 inflatable 6 man (unmotored) inflatable boats are in storage. There are adjustable gas compressors (which can be used for a variety of usages) at every main elevator/garage/vehicle area. It takes 4 seconds to fully inflate these craft(they are also self inflatable but take a minute or longer to harden by an aircompression vacume release. (when emptied the vacume reseals) (these can also serve as ‘life boats’ if required for if full capacity 1200 of the crew. Full evacuation via the inflatables would take up to 30 minutes. It would take 5-10 minutes to inflate them all at the right launch areas. The sides of the ship from the flight deck are ‘rounded’ enough to ‘slide down into’



Underwater Drones and Craft:
20 UD-1
short-range "subfighters" (supercaviated fast attack drones (these can be remote controlled or AI operated, or self preprogrammed engageable)

these craft have a payload of ‘mini’ torpedos and two medium range torpedo’s. they also have a gattling railgun with 1000 superalloy flechette supercaviated rounds (enough for 5 full bursts. (it looks like a solid sheet of rounds as they are fired one after another. Just behind the tips is a nanite compartment which releases nanites onto the contact surface, these nanites then start attacking the surface and continue attacking the surface for 30 minutes unless removed. Water is the fuel to the nantites and sodium idodide enhances the effect. (the work in fresh and salt water but ‘are active for longer in ionized salt water. (salt water acts as a complete battery) These will also work in air (however there has to be enough hydrogen and oxygen in the air mix)

8 NBDD-1

The NeoBioDolphiDrones are given a ‘flesh like coating and appear like ‘dolphins from a distance’ these drones however have a paylot of superfast minitorpedos armed with a number of small warheads. They powerplant ‘core’ minimics the body heat and other sensor outbuts as a dolphin or shark or other fish wouldwould. There are different ‘skins that can be put over top the drone depending on the ‘sea environment’. The most powerful warhead payload is minitacticle nuke. (I find it funny a dolphin can have minitactcle nukes inside its mouth. The ‘propulsion’ is masked based upon a bunch of different models. The max speed is within the range of ‘acceptable archtypes.. however it can go much faster if ‘the act is not important. These are generally used as surprise but also ‘recon’ communications range extension.. messaging(by physical). The range of these is supimented by mini hydrolosis plants which create a ‘spark’ then start to cataylse the water by harnessing a loop feedback current within the plant. The energy released by the turbine motion the hydrogen oxygen combustion plant submiment the energy so that very little overall potential energy is lost except that lost by conversion to kinetic energy. The miniloop magnetic cranks are a reduced two mode model of the large permamagnet electroconversion.

40 ROBOT MOLES
The Small Unmanned Ground Vehicle (SUGV) will scout tight spots--sewers, caves, tunnels. These are used on the ship to navigate and act as a drone for internal ship repairs ‘specifically for the Jeffries tubes. They also are capable of ‘patching’ into each weapons system. Act out mission parameters or act as a remote control intermediate to a ‘gunner’ if they wired connection is broken. These are used in ‘particularly’ dangerous. Or potentially dangerous situations. There is an attempt to balance human interaction and remote control skills in routine repairs and miatenence on the ship when they are required. These can operate on ‘ground’ and can naviate ‘adders and pipes through adhesive track hooks. If put on the bottom of a ‘not incredibly deep waterbody they can function as a scout.
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The fighting capacity has been extended on this mission to 100 experimental AI ROBOTS from our MECHANIZED ANDROID DIVISION (MAD)

and 10 MCT-1 mk II.

We have a number of special forces in orbit that can respond if required from our fast launch ground to orbit to ground SPACE TACTICAL SQUADS.

We also have satalite armed SCRAMJET HYBRID tactical nuclear weapons

We also can commit an unnumbered ammount of our CX-1's that can be armed with NUETRONBOMB or standard nuclear payloads, or biological or chemical weapons if so required.


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We have allowed our NUETRON BOMB or THERMONUCLEAR weapons capacity to be deployed if so required.

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We wait for word on how you would like our forces to be used against these inhumane forces.

Commander An Ts'ao Meng


OOC: That is Godmodish, if not full godmod.

OOC:Wow this sucks, i just typed a long post and it deleted it because my account was "inactive" for too long.

OOC: yeah, i always copy my long posts out before posting them, just to be sure

OOC: That is Godmodish, if not full godmod.


OOC Nah, not even close to g-d mode, considering you havn't even seen the actual ship specs.. it uses technology that exists today with a little tweeking and cross breading..

It is the equivlent to 40 hightech jets (they use scramjet technology which exists to propell missle up to mach 15-20.. NASA developed it

The caviat exists...

the ships main weapon is a rail gun (that is modified from one developed by the US navy and British MOD.

I have 8 submersible hydrofoils unit transports (1 unit each up to 20 lightly equiped)

2 missle/torpedo cargo subs

A 100 experiemental robots (that US special forces has baby versions of right now)

(I have some underwater drones of which the US has much deadier above grond versions of)

I have some inflatable rafts...

10 advanced 'behemoth tanks' that were made from relatively currently existing technology.

And some tactical nuclear weapons and a few really deadly nukes that are generally deployed with various rl militaries nuclear fleet subs...

the ship is very good.. but it is prime using todays technology and maybe just maybe some stuff that may or may not exist.

Trust me it isn't g-d moded.. I stopped short of that.. humourously it is maybe what ICCD is going to base it's first combat spacecraft out of.

This is the first (and flagship) of the ICCD fleet. It is easily no where as timebased as Kraven is.. although it is perhaps using good technology.. trust me .. that.. is nothing.. I'll see about uping the specs.. here is a pic of what it would looklike without it's tinting camo.



http://www.imagekafe.com/files/f736c.jpg

It is SIC!!! but not g-d moded.. it is pretty much all real life technology..

OOC: That is Godmodish, if not full godmod.

Not to mention AI is impossible considering current and possibly future technologies. The Human mind is incomprehensible and cannot be turned into a set of rules and programs, on the other hand, remote controlled "drones" are acceptable, however would have extremely reduced effectiveness due to lag time and the need for communications connection.

Also, what point is there for transatmospheric fighters? The weight required to protect it from sea water and the technology is also impossible and impractical. Weapons that work over the sea will not work under it.

Other then that underwater carriers are acceptable, if you want to live with the logistics involved and the excessive cost for something that will hold an inferior amount of planes.

OOC: I would like to know the situation in Frenzia, like what has Raven Corps taken etc...

Also when i said in the other thread that my marines are fortifying the beaches i meant to say "reenforce". i saw that the beaches are already being invaded in this thread

Not to mention AI is impossible considering current and possibly future technologies. The Human mind is incomprehensible and cannot be turned into a set of rules and programs, on the other hand, remote controlled "drones" are acceptable, however would have extremely reduced effectiveness due to lag time and the need for communications connection.

Also, what point is there for transatmospheric fighters? The weight required to protect it from sea water and the technology is also impossible and impractical. Weapons that work over the sea will not work under it.

Other then that underwater carriers are acceptable, if you want to live with the logistics involved and the excessive cost for something that will hold an inferior amount of planes.

OOC:
I studdied AI for a few years it is very posible, for instance a couple years back there was a model of the human brain done.. small projects can teach things to differentiate between oranges and bananas. drones can use the stuff.. there are allot of advanced projects.. AI ain't complex. I developed the stuff myself.

As for transatmospheric fighters.. it means it can operate in any type of atmosphere.. it has ceramic technologies that can survive rentry heat.. as for being submersible... I didn't say deep submersible.. actually a sturdy aircraft can operate in or out of water.. and they already exist. All you have to take into account is lift.. and the aircraft have VTOL which is aided by water intake .. which is needed to cool like a harrier.

The stuff is makeable or already made.

OOC: underwater hydrofoils are foolish though. the complexity involved in the foils would be crushed at more than about 100 feet. not completely sure on the depth, but it wouldnt make it very far down without being broken. also, the hull shape has to be able to get up speed before the foils can lift it out of the water, which means it has a poor hull for pressure resistance. and also very little armour, cos all your weight has been taken up with re-inforcing. so a bad plan overall...

My leader is Sentient AI, Although its clinicly Insane... hmm

Will people start Posting in "The Sound of A Thousand Jackboots" Thread please, this is the Offical War Thread.... use these as OOC Threads.

My leader is Sentient AI, Although its clinicly Insane... hmm

Will people start Posting in "The Sound of A Thousand Jackboots" Thread please, this is the Offical War Thread.... use these as OOC Threads.
linky please, cant find it and the jolt search flood control is really annoying me...

OOC: underwater hydrofoils are foolish though. the complexity involved in the foils would be crushed at more than about 100 feet. not completely sure on the depth, but it wouldnt make it very far down without being broken. also, the hull shape has to be able to get up speed before the foils can lift it out of the water, which means it has a poor hull for pressure resistance. and also very little armour, cos all your weight has been taken up with re-inforcing. so a bad plan overall...


The hydrofoil shells are deployable meaning they are only 'filled and formant' when they are required, it uses a presurized system, and synthetics as well as a mechanical fastening system. The shell itself is not incredibly strong. The crafts themselves are able to stand up to small arms fire and most heavy weapons, however they wouldn't stand up to missle attacks (AP IR or some heavier stuff) They are basicallly sea/land marine and SOF transports (the tweak being making them submersible for added underwater stealth. A craft may be invisible to EM (radar) or able to detect and falsify sonar but it can be seen visually (unless it has a lightwave blanket) but even lightwave blankets can be anomoulous at highspeeds.. so best to reduce the risk as a wake is pretty obvious and can't really be masked(it can be reduced drastically however with shapers..).

You are right though it isn't designed as a combat unit and as such it's armor and armourment are minimal. However, we are working on Titanium Ceramic Composites to enhance it but we need to watch the weighting distrobution, or redesign the hull shape in the next compliment.

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SECRET IC:

ICCD has given authority to satalites to operate detect and destroy operations of any nuclear weapons headed for or are within Frenzia Airspace.

It is also authorized to track and deploy any such missles and eliminate any such launch sites using tactical nuclear space deployed stealth scramjet missles.

Space Stored Dropship are also authorized to deployed long range s-cruise type missles in loworbit operations as long as anonyminity is not comprimised.

Shuttles will be launched from ground bases to reequip the satalite systems as redeployment payloads are maximized for economy.

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We have decided to take the stance that if not request is put upon our forces we will attempt to prevent nuclear fallout on civilian populations.

The massive fleets may only be counterable by use of nuclear weapons. We will first test to see if they are neutron radiation proof, if so we will upgrade to nuclear, but we must launch at a height as to minimize equatic life destruction by air detonation.
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Long Xing is not to engage at this time or to weaken it's stealth pressence. All attacks are to remain anonymous.
Satalite postions are to change regular positioning into far orbit after launching payloads using kinetic transferance then redeploy with EM screening as E counter meassures. Visual Identification is to be countered by utilizing reflective mirrors pointed upward after use and solar positioned, which is dually used to lock onto and if posible do damage or effect guidance or other sensor systems of missles if applicable to the missle. The 13 launch satalites are to have reinforced SDFs (space defence forces) deployed on daylong operations All missles are to be destroyed with coil gatling or burst screens. If operation is at risk due to inabiity to destroy craft are to take in the satalites and return to safehouses.

Ballistic mutlihead Mini Missle rocket jammers are to be deployed to engage escorts of the salvos or to engage the salvos.

Finally duracoast space based glider drones are to be deployed around main populations centers as protection of any penetrating missles, but so as to not depelete our own defences. Thus likey strike targets are to be protected.

Air Stored mission programmed CX-1's are to be kept at ready for drop.

Finally a warning is to be sent for cessation or to face

OOC: yo, their fleets are'nt neccesarially proof against missile spoofage, and nuking them will get you glassed. also, trials of vessels with retractable foils were carried out several years ago, then hushed up, because the development costs were massive and the ship broke when they tried to go above about 40 knots. t'would be better for you just to have air-assisted normal hulls, which are more effective, and much less complex.

Oh, and btw, any firing from orbit, i have sats up all over the place which will spot it, if you care, seeing as how we're supposed to be on the same side.

OOC: yo, their fleets are'nt neccesarially proof against missile spoofage, and nuking them will get you glassed. also, trials of vessels with retractable foils were carried out several years ago, then hushed up, because the development costs were massive and the ship broke when they tried to go above about 40 knots. t'would be better for you just to have air-assisted normal hulls, which are more effective, and much less complex.

Oh, and btw, any firing from orbit, i have sats up all over the place which will spot it, if you care, seeing as how we're supposed to be on the same side.

By air assited do you mean VSTOL/VTOL? How would they be able to go inland. 40 knots is pretty darn fast for a sea vesel although in the 1970's they had foils that could do 110 knots.. By 1997 Mach 1 or 660 knots or look into fresh1 from the 60's at 70 knots. The shelll is quite stable to surface use at highspeeds easily handling around 90 knots, note there are a bunch of technologies that assist in this such as the super caviation and string ray type stabalizers the craft already uses a vstol technology of sorts with /jet / turbine intakes that operate above ground and underwater, with addition oxygenating flame ports, with some being water tank cooled and l. N cyro cooled. 40 knots is fast for a watercraft but not at all remarkable for a hydrofoil.. Obviously that lift wasn't designed like mine. Also ICCD's research costs arn't superinflated because everyone does compulsary state service and we have genetically enhanced intelligence + AI/CI + many people use mind altering drugs as to come up with new interesting adaptions on things, also our production costs are low because the state owns pretty much everything and people are g-dly loyal to the state and Totus Fides.. our researchers also formed a number of partnerships... we don't pay for our research just technologies there is no cost blight by AEROSPACE industries etc.. our costs ain't high because we implement much of the same technologies.

As for being glassed what do you mean? I have anti nuke defences and with ICCD's SBL's we can take out a air nuke every 1-10 seconds unless it has anti space laser defences (already in existance)

ICCD also has ground based defences this is all OOC since you have no way to know I'm involved let alone who is lanching because our systems are stealth. The scramet missles I doubt will be intercepted because they go at mach 15+ and I doubt you guys though to include scramjet technology on your intercept missles which I did. Of course you may attempt to rip it off after the fact, but you may have picked the wrong fight.

You should maybe try to do some espeionage in ICCD but .. it may be difficult... if you do some research you may find out why... any questions asked.

Hopefully you didn't mass your fleet...

What detection technology do your sats use if it is EM they won't see anything, except for a laser pulse that isn't coming from any location that my satalites are normally in. Do you have spaced based interception forces?

OOC: Nuking my fleet is not Advisable at all, Because we will be able to track your Missiles easily, Despite them being "Stealthed" which is impossible to be completely steathled, other wise its god mod and you'll be ignored, The Missiles will create an immense heat signature on launch, and Seagulls cannot travel that fast, I warn you now, As soon as we detect a missile launch and calculate its planned trajectory... We will retaliate with a Full Nuclear strike against your nation, 1 weeks worth of nuclear Cleansing turning your nation into nothing more than Plate glass... Its the Corporations doctrine on Nuclear Attack.... So I warn you OOC in advance.....

OOC: and when kraven launches, my "final war" assets go active, and i release a biotoxin on all nations classed as hostile from orbital launchers. all unprotected humans in said nations die. you launched first, so you count as hostile too. and it disperses from monster altitudes, so there is NO way to block it. it never will be used unless in the instance of all-out war, which nuking will trigger.
Oh, and by air-assisted, i mean a special type of hull. it is flat, with ridges, and adds air to the water flowing below it, which reduces drag hugely, and that allows you to go much faster. no airborne involvement, the hull actually adds drag if allowed to get out of the water, so its useless on a hydrofoil, but that would be foolish anyway...

OOC: Nuking my fleet is not Advisable at all, Because we will be able to track your Missiles easily, Despite them being "Stealthed" which is impossible to be completely steathled, other wise its god mod and you'll be ignored, The Missiles will create an immense heat signature on launch, and Seagulls cannot travel that fast, I warn you now, As soon as we detect a missile launch and calculate its planned trajectory... We will retaliate with a Full Nuclear strike against your nation, 1 weeks worth of nuclear Cleansing turning your nation into nothing more than Plate glass... Its the Corporations doctrine on Nuclear Attack.... So I warn you OOC in advance.....


OOC: ok, just so yah know, are you looking for cruise missle launches globally right now? cause i have a handfull of bombers that are gonna launch and or launched a bunch of missle. These missles are multiwarhead.. and have rockets in the housing. The stealth of these missles is via a russian stealth craft technology, to mask it's signature via many detection methods. Have two speeds. They also have chaff. They are 'smart bombs' and they have programs for preconfiguration and a small combat computer. They also have sensor systems. Without going into great detail.

The bombers also implement stealth technology both thermal and EM as well as acouple other protections mostly e-warfare based. They travel at around mach 3 regularly but can go faster(they are prone to some ware) I'm not going to go into allot of detail, but they are based on some 1970's strategic bomber models mixed in with russian and american and israeli technology. If you have a way of tracking aircraft visually at high altitude say a whole bunch of spy satalites that use visual lifewave magnification you have a slight chance to detct them as they do not employ lightwave technology in flight but do have sensor systems to sense out wav cancelation and low level holographic masking. (note all posible today) They are not near the combat area for launch they launched a handful of cruise type/long range missles and then went back to base based upon missle tracking from space (any intelligence) and any thing picked up within the range of the Hao Long Xing which is also out to sea but staying prepared to act.

How many nuclear missles does you country have?
Regarldess we have tunnel systems that I doubt you are aware of since you don't even know where we are... and unless you have like a million nukes just laying around in ballistic missles.. uhm god mod hello? if you have a population of 1 billion that is 1 nuclear missle for every 1000 people.. do you relize the resources that would take NOT realistic... I have a hard enogh time making a few ships and an handful of satalites and a couple hundred aircraft. The cost of each missle is like probably 3 times the cost and maitenance of each of my cx-1's. I'm not launching from my homeland I've lanched from air based bombers and satalites that are 'secret'
do you have a space presence?

er, yeah, i have such sats. and come off trying stealth at mach3.
also, you have a sensor suite onboard your missiles. hello, i can now pinpoint them exactly. also from the c and c interface with your sats. i know where your missiles are, i follow your bombers home, and no tunnel system is bioweapon proof. unless its a bunker, at which point i can tell where it is from the concentration of metal in your rotting country, and can watch all the entrances, and kill you as you come out. please please please dont use nukes. they aint worth it.
oh yeah, and LINKY guys so i can deploy my fleet...

OOC: ok, just so yah know, are you looking for cruise missle launches globally right now? cause i have a handfull of bombers that are gonna launch and or launched a bunch of missle. These missles are multiwarhead.. and have rockets in the housing. The stealth of these missles is via a russian stealth craft technology, to mask it's signature via many detection methods. Have two speeds. They also have chaff. They are 'smart bombs' and they have programs for preconfiguration and a small combat computer. They also have sensor systems. Without going into great detail.

The bombers also implement stealth technology both thermal and EM as well as acouple other protections mostly e-warfare based. They travel at around mach 3 regularly but can go faster(they are prone to some ware) I'm not going to go into allot of detail, but they are based on some 1970's strategic bomber models mixed in with russian and american and israeli technology. If you have a way of tracking aircraft visually at high altitude say a whole bunch of spy satalites that use visual lifewave magnification you have a slight chance to detct them as they do not employ lightwave technology in flight but do have sensor systems to sense out wav cancelation and low level holographic masking. (note all posible today) They are not near the combat area for launch they launched a handful of cruise type/long range missles and then went back to base based upon missle tracking from space (any intelligence) and any thing picked up within the range of the Hao Long Xing which is also out to sea but staying prepared to act.

How many nuclear missles does you country have?
Regarldess we have tunnel systems that I doubt you are aware of since you don't even know where we are... and unless you have like a million nukes just laying around in ballistic missles.. uhm god mod hello? if you have a population of 1 billion that is 1 nuclear missle for every 1000 people.. do you relize the resources that would take NOT realistic... I have a hard enogh time making a few ships and an handful of satalites and a couple hundred aircraft. The cost of each missle is like probably 3 times the cost and maitenance of each of my cx-1's. I'm not launching from my homeland I've lanched from air based bombers and satalites that are 'secret'
do you have a space presence?


I have more than Ample resources to launch enough nukes, it isnt God mod, The Kraven Corporation has many Slave States that are under our rule, Missiles would be launched from these sites as well as our home land, We ourselves do not have a Space presence to speak of, However our Slave States do, See Concremo, Antyajl, Numonica (Land captured during a war)

TBH if you are going to start flinging Nukes around, you will get ignored, because to be frank it would ruin the RP for everyone. this hasn't been talked through and not all parties have agreed to you using nukes, in event that you do use nukes, you cannot have a fool proof way to avoid detection, because that is God Mod it would be impossible to completely hide a Nuclear attack, Regardless of what heat signature masking you have, or russian stealth gear, your planes and missiles will still give a signature, a signature that a Satelite can track, Going back over data from satelites will allow your planes to be traced...

er, yeah, i have such sats. and come off trying stealth at mach3.
also, you have a sensor suite onboard your missiles. hello, i can now pinpoint them exactly. also from the c and c interface with your sats. i know where your missiles are, i follow your bombers home, and no tunnel system is bioweapon proof. unless its a bunker, at which point i can tell where it is from the concentration of metal in your rotting country, and can watch all the entrances, and kill you as you come out. please please please dont use nukes. they aint worth it.
oh yeah, and LINKY guys so i can deploy my fleet...

If I attack the bunker with a bioweapon, you can garantee it will be with my 3 stage bioweapon, The bunkers would then be turned into giant concrete coffins...

I tried to get the link last night, but the forums went awol

yeah, my bunkers are immune to those BTW. only LOTS of explosives or a series of different tailored chemical weapons can get in...

:D

OOC: If your people are impossible to find and are sheltered in imprenetrable tunnel system while armed with highly advanced weapons that cannot be tracked to its original source or even detected, that is Godmodding.

Also The Kraven Corporation is in an Alliance with Nicksyllvania and other Great Nations

The Kraven Corporation: 1.548 Billion
New Nicksyllvania: 1.475 Billion
Raven Corps: 2.381 Billion
Hataria: 3.454 Billion
Total: 8.858 Billion

Figures do not even include Slave Nations and Protectorates

Against your 125 million. In a Sustained Nuclear War, it is unlikely you will survive.

OOC: you do remember that unless you can really justify having more than one nation, it is godmodding with a capital godmodding...
still, aw crap my fleet is so doomed.

By the way, the link to the Battle thread is http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=464009

OOC: and when kraven launches, my "final war" assets go active, and i release a biotoxin on all nations classed as hostile from orbital launchers. all unprotected humans in said nations die. you launched first, so you count as hostile too. and it disperses from monster altitudes, so there is NO way to block it. it never will be used unless in the instance of all-out war, which nuking will trigger.
Oh, and by air-assisted, i mean a special type of hull. it is flat, with ridges, and adds air to the water flowing below it, which reduces drag hugely, and that allows you to go much faster. no airborne involvement, the hull actually adds drag if allowed to get out of the water, so its useless on a hydrofoil, but that would be foolish anyway...


Well I did put my citizens on alert a few hours ago.. but I'm just wonder welll can't we just intercept the canisters with our laser satalites? If we detect weapons launch we will counter we can take out one delivery system every couple seconds ? How many do you have?

As if we detect weapons launch we will send our space based craft for intercept that were told to stay in orbit.
you can check out my news service out of character for some more information. via the east pacific site, and the news service.

How many of these sattalites do you have?

How is it that you are finding my nation though?

yeah, my bunkers are immune to those BTW. only LOTS of explosives or a series of different tailored chemical weapons can get in...

:D

What filters do you use? and what do you use for seals?

i've already told you how i'm finding you, and the sattelites themselves fall out of orbit, and break up right at the top of the atmosphere. you have no reason to shoot one falling sat down IC, and know nothing about these IC either. and ta muchly for teh link.

they're closed shelters. no outside access, even air. lots of hydroponics and re-cycling. no need for filters.

OOC: you do remember that unless you can really justify having more than one nation, it is godmodding with a capital godmodding...
still, aw crap my fleet is so doomed.

All Slave states approached me to become part of the Kraven Collective, loosing their national identity and become a Slave to the Corporation, Concremo was Sold out to The Corporation by its national leader, this was the First Slave state, Allies of the Corporation are generaly turned into slave states once The High Command decide that they are more use to us under our Totalitarian Rule...

All Slave states approached me to become part of the Kraven Collective, loosing their national identity and become a Slave to the Corporation, Concremo was Sold out to The Corporation by its national leader, this was the First Slave state, Allies of the Corporation are generaly turned into slave states once The High Command decide that they are more use to us under our Totalitarian Rule...
point me at rps of each please...

I have more than Ample resources to launch enough nukes, it isnt God mod, The Kraven Corporation has many Slave States that are under our rule, Missiles would be launched from these sites as well as our home land, We ourselves do not have a Space presence to speak of, However our Slave States do, See Concremo, Antyajl, Numonica (Land captured during a war)

TBH if you are going to start flinging Nukes around, you will get ignored, because to be frank it would ruin the RP for everyone. this hasn't been talked through and not all parties have agreed to you using nukes, in event that you do use nukes, you cannot have a fool proof way to avoid detection, because that is God Mod it would be impossible to completely hide a Nuclear attack, Regardless of what heat signature masking you have, or russian stealth gear, your planes and missiles will still give a signature, a signature that a Satelite can track, Going back over data from satelites will allow your planes to be traced...


I can understand that.. but do you have these satalites and if so, could you explain them to me pretty please?

point me at rps of each please...

Most of them are not known to the Public and have yet to be acted out
Look for the over throw of the sultan thread by Whyatica, it will show you that he has "Sold His soul" to the Corporation and owes a debt to the Corporation

As for Concremo, I can't even remember the name of the thread, it was never finished, my good friend Concremo exchanged his nation with a puppet of mine that had no forum history (however, He lost interest in NS quickly afterwards and the RP was never finished)

Others just approached me via TG and passed over with a flawless and un-noticed transition

Psycher Bearzerkers was a Slave state, but he chose to rebel and the Corporation is in the process of exterminating his population.

OOC: If your people are impossible to find and are sheltered in imprenetrable tunnel system while armed with highly advanced weapons that cannot be tracked to its original source or even detected, that is Godmodding.

Also The Kraven Corporation is in an Alliance with Nicksyllvania and other Great Nations

The Kraven Corporation: 1.548 Billion
New Nicksyllvania: 1.475 Billion
Raven Corps: 2.381 Billion
Hataria: 3.454 Billion
Total: 8.858 Billion

Figures do not even include Slave Nations and Protectorates

Against your 125 million. In a Sustained Nuclear War, it is unlikely you will survive.


Dig a little deeper.. there is no such thing as a 'sustained nuclear war'.

All I know is that the ammount of nukes you have to launch will obliterate the planet. anything less then a 100 nukes wont cut it. I have nuke defences but if the sky fills with nukes there is little difference and I didnt laucn first your the one who is launching a swatch of half kilotun bombs.. how many.. ??

to say the least I am geussing you must have lanched a few megatuns worth.. who the hell are you kidding.

BTW it isn't hte population that matters it is the technology and we have automation.

Population is actuay a resource drain. unless you have land to back it up.

Although you do outnumber me drastically I'm just defending a victim of nuclear war.

I find it a little retared you are RP a MT with PMT and these killer viruses etc.. meanwhile you don't have a space presence AT ALL you satalites would be mince meat. Yet you have a fleet of 40 aircraft carriers... do you know how many reasources and fuel it takes for a bloody aircraft carrier.. although it ain't drastically unthinkabe.

I honestly don't have an issue with it. I would just like to know the way in which the technology exists as I base my technology on Mondern Technology stuff I can make/design or is already designed.

Yah your population is larger but do you have the intelligence. It seems laking so far.. I lauch tactical nukes against a mass fleet (realistic) you fill the skies with thousands of nukes and launch a 'invincible biological virus from space'? THAT WOULD OBLITERATE THE PLANET
WHAT am I suppose to line up with a BB GUN.

BOOM!!! Time to break out the weather machines and tinfoil hats?

I can understand that.. but do you have these satalites and if so, could you explain them to me pretty please?


Im not 100% on the techno babble, but the satelites when doing general sweeps of the area record various things in their sweeps, from real time footage to Thermal and other things, like I said im not 100% on the tech side, but if something comes up such as a missile strike, Satalite operators can just look back over the data thats come in from the data stream and annalise the data looking through to spot trace signatures, a trained operator would be able to spot the signature and trace to point of origin, which would be the plane, and even with the heat masking, there would be a bright flare from ignition, that would indicate a launch, then the signature from the plane would be traced back to its point of origin, like I said im not up on the technobabble, a better person to ask would be The Macabees

Dig a little deeper.. there is no such thing as a 'sustained nuclear war'.

All I know is that the ammount of nukes you have to launch will obliterate the planet. anything less then a 100 nukes wont cut it. I have nuke defences but if the sky fills with nukes there is little difference and I didnt laucn first your the one who is launching a swatch of half kilotun bombs.. how many.. ??

to say the least I am geussing you must have lanched a few megatuns worth.. who the hell are you kidding.

BTW it isn't hte population that matters it is the technology and we have automation.

Population is actuay a resource drain. unless you have land to back it up.

Although you do outnumber me drastically I'm just defending a victim of nuclear war.

AI, robots, and compuetrs will not matter much against the electrostatic Nuclear weapons create in an explosion. People however, being biological beings can adapt to the radiation, albeit at heavy losses. Chenobyl showed that some rats became immune to many effects of radiation. The larger population you have, the more likely people are going to be able to mutate to fit their new surrounding.

Nuclear Weapons themselves can only take out 70% of a cities, most of its casualties are caused by the destruction of the landscape and fires caused by it. So a larger population does matter as it enhances survivability ratios.

Plus, nuclear weapons haven't been used in this war yet. The conflict was started by the threatened use of nuclear weapons.

And yes, our education system is our nations 2nd highest priority after Defence spendings, and is on par with our health care system.

and i'm not part of it, and say that you started it ICC. oh, and again i'll say it, you cant block my weapon. but it dont matter if it is godmoddish, b/c you'll be ignored by your own side if you launch nukes...

Im not 100% on the techno babble, but the satelites when doing general sweeps of the area record various things in their sweeps, from real time footage to Thermal and other things, like I said im not 100% on the tech side, but if something comes up such as a missile strike, Satalite operators can just look back over the data thats come in from the data stream and annalise the data looking through to spot trace signatures, a trained operator would be able to spot the signature and trace to point of origin, which would be the plane, and even with the heat masking, there would be a bright flare from ignition, that would indicate a launch, then the signature from the plane would be traced back to its point of origin, like I said im not up on the technobabble, a better person to ask would be The Macabees


That totally defeats the purpose of stealth aircraft...

ANd uhm are you satalites immune to space based coilgatling guns?

If not they will be knocked out as well... or let me geuss they are defended.. I'm interested to see what MODERN TECH space technology others have

BTW do you have jamming defence what type of signal are you sending back tot he planet? Cause we can scramble EM, and switching into orbit wont take particularly long? Are you in near orbit or far orbit?


What type of action are you looking for? You seem to be reducing this to only

guns and firepower?
how realistic is that why woudl you even have 40 aircraft carriers? it seems only you can launch missles?

If you do happen to have a sub it most likely is screwed unless there happens to be a whole fleet of underwater subs......... cause that aint just a platform........ you may have stumbled upon an underwater naval base.

gatling railguns in space. that is totally not Rl tech. oh, and this is PMT, so while those are allowed, you cant call godmodding on others for using PMT stuff.
oh, and putting gatling on railguns is a waste of time, there are other methods of getting rapid-fire, but i am not telling you them.

That totally defeats the purpose of stealth aircraft...

ANd uhm are you satalites immune to space based coilgatling guns?

If not they will be knocked out as well... or let me geuss they are defended.. I'm interested to see what MODERN TECH space technology others have

Well, My nation is PMT 2051, if your looking to play against Modern tech nations you've come to the wrong place, Yes it defeats the purpose of Stealth aircraft, which is exactly why, if you have something thats perfectly stealthed and can't be detected by anyone!!!1111 r0x0rz... then its god modding, not even stealth craft we have now are perfectly stealthed, if it rains stealth fails....

and yes I do have Defenses in space, Axis Novas space system is currently under my command...

AI, robots, and compuetrs will not matter much against the electrostatic Nuclear weapons create in an explosion. People however, being biological beings can adapt to the radiation, albeit at heavy losses. Chenobyl showed that some rats became immune to many effects of radiation. The larger population you have, the more likely people are going to be able to mutate to fit their new surrounding.

Nuclear Weapons themselves can only take out 70% of a cities, most of its casualties are caused by the destruction of the landscape and fires caused by it. So a larger population does matter as it enhances survivability ratios.

Plus, nuclear weapons haven't been used in this war yet. The conflict was started by the threatened use of nuclear weapons.

And yes, our education system is our nations 2nd highest priority after Defence spendings, and is on par with our health care system.


There is something callled 'radiation and conter EMP sheilding'
OMG= radiation KILLS .. people generally do not adapt.. but I take it you still havn't found my information sites.

Education doesn't = intelligence.

how'd you get axis nova's stuff kraven?
and would i know that in character?

how'd you get axis nova's stuff kraven?
and would i know that in character?

my Sentient AI system jumped from Kravonika via various Kraven Satelites over to Axis Novas computer network (Hence why I have no satelites, they were destroyed after each Data stream jump) and No you wouldn't know it IC its completely secret IC... its all part of my Nations story line for a series of RP's currently on going, So ssssshhh... >_>

Well, My nation is PMT 2051, if your looking to play against Modern tech nations you've come to the wrong place, Yes it defeats the purpose of Stealth aircraft, which is exactly why, if you have something thats perfectly stealthed and can't be detected by anyone!!!1111 r0x0rz... then its god modding, not even stealth craft we have now are perfectly stealthed, if it rains stealth fails....

and yes I do have Defenses in space, Axis Novas space system is currently under my command...

HAHAHAHAH, OK now get this.. PLANES FLY ABOVE THE CLOUDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i never said they were perfectly stealthed I just said they were using russian stealth technology and undless you were scanning the globe with a whole bunch of satalites.. I mean a whole bunch chances are you wont find the planes there is a chance you might find one and in that case you are going to trace it to the edge of the East pacific around china.. at that point your tracking would see the plane go underwater on an enclosed platform. If you did find it.

Can you give me some examples of what you 2053 tech has? as far as space systems? If you are doing PMT or FT 2053. That is shadowrun right...

Can I get a sane and realistic idea of how many nukes you happen to have and what your landmass would be, just so I can get a realistic idea.. cause if you have unlimited resources and 100000 nuclear bombs etc.. and the orbit is filled with thousands of space craft then that brings in my Space technologists link which in that case you are going to have 500k space deployed people on your arse. Which let me geuss you have Future Tech Allies.. OMG like give me a break.

HAHAHAHAH, OK now get this.. PLANES FLY ABOVE THE CLOUDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i never said they were perfectly stealthed I just said they were using russian stealth technology and undless you were scanning the globe with a whole bunch of satalites.. I mean a whole bunch chances are you wont find the planes there is a chance you might find one and in that case you are going to trace it to the edge of the East pacific around china.. at that point your tracking would see the plane go underwater on an enclosed platform. If you did find it.

hmmmm....

woo, and thats not godmodding how? in this case, i'll just happen to have a sub right near your platform, and follow it down. we can all godmod just as well as you my friend... anyway, i'll stop this now.

oh and kraven, ICly, why did your sattelites explode? :p

woo, and thats not godmodding how? in this case, i'll just happen to have a sub right near your platform, and follow it down. we can all godmod just as well as you my friend... anyway, i'll stop this now.

oh and kraven, ICly, why did your sattelites explode? :p

Their systems couldn't handle the sheer amount of Data sent to them, systems were active long enough to transmit the data, but after that the systems were so wrecked they exploded, Don't ask why, Axis nova had a series of Sattelites explode... I just went along with it because it was cool... hmmm :S

i've already told you how i'm finding you, and the sattelites themselves fall out of orbit, and break up right at the top of the atmosphere. you have no reason to shoot one falling sat down IC, and know nothing about these IC either. and ta muchly for teh link.

they're closed shelters. no outside access, even air. lots of hydroponics and re-cycling. no need for filters.


If they are falling down in my airspace I have a reason. Which would cause them to be atmosphere delivered. So I geuss everyone is fakked now.

why? their plotted glide path would land them in the ocean...

why? their plotted glide path would land them in the ocean...


Well I'm a landlocked country that specialized in underground mining you but two and two together...

wha? they just happen to pass over wherever you are en-route to the ocean. you're too new a nation to have been around when i launched them and thus dont know who's they are.

What in the hell has happened here.........?

one big arguement on ICC's almost god-modish-ness, and more to the point, his nOOklear threats.

Dig a little deeper.. there is no such thing as a 'sustained nuclear war'.

All I know is that the ammount of nukes you have to launch will obliterate the planet. anything less then a 100 nukes wont cut it. I have nuke defences but if the sky fills with nukes there is little difference and I didnt laucn first your the one who is launching a swatch of half kilotun bombs.. how many.. ??

to say the least I am geussing you must have lanched a few megatuns worth.. who the hell are you kidding.

BTW it isn't hte population that matters it is the technology and we have automation.

Population is actuay a resource drain. unless you have land to back it up.

Although you do outnumber me drastically I'm just defending a victim of nuclear war.

I find it a little retared you are RP a MT with PMT and these killer viruses etc.. meanwhile you don't have a space presence AT ALL you satalites would be mince meat. Yet you have a fleet of 40 aircraft carriers... do you know how many reasources and fuel it takes for a bloody aircraft carrier.. although it ain't drastically unthinkabe.

I honestly don't have an issue with it. I would just like to know the way in which the technology exists as I base my technology on Mondern Technology stuff I can make/design or is already designed.

Yah your population is larger but do you have the intelligence. It seems laking so far.. I lauch tactical nukes against a mass fleet (realistic) you fill the skies with thousands of nukes and launch a 'invincible biological virus from space'? THAT WOULD OBLITERATE THE PLANET
WHAT am I suppose to line up with a BB GUN.

BOOM!!! Time to break out the weather machines and tinfoil hats?

Spell check if you have it. And if you dont please learn how to spell the words..OR... Put a " (SP) " at the end. I can tolerate grammer problems, but you have to many problems.... and if all you are doing is cuasing problems please leave.

OOC:When you were talking about the point of ignition of the missile, by the time the analyst has looked over the image sent it to been approved, etc... that missile has either already hit its target or been shot down and the plane would be far away also. Not that im supporting anything that this guy has (or says he has).

wrooong. my sattelite management system knows the signature of a missile launch, and pops it up for a human already categorized and placed, and it'll have a go at backtracking the plane itself too, but that wont necesarilly work...

OOC:ok fine, even so it would still take to long for you to react effectivly against the oncoming missle.

wha? they just happen to pass over wherever you are en-route to the ocean. you're too new a nation to have been around when i launched them and thus dont know who's they are.


Well if you discover a secret location then it doesn't matter who's they are as long as we can clean up properly.. plus chances are the depth crushed your sub unless it can go bellow 2km. As the thing it landed on wasn't just a platform. Note it didn't stay on it and you would have lost visual sight of it.

Too new crap?

I'm allowed to write my state history rp history etc.. however I'd like, plus the underground system was started before this thread popped up. It is just your choice on whether to accept it for yourself.

But I can take a hint that this is all staged anyway as raven stated in telegram so it takes away the point of rp if it is a fixed story line

OOC:When you were talking about the point of ignition of the missile, by the time the analyst has looked over the image sent it to been approved, etc... that missile has either already hit its target or been shot down and the plane would be far away also. Not that im supporting anything that this guy has (or says he has).



This is not the case in space system because of the speed of interception or hypersonic interception or laser systems.

Especially if ICBM based which I"m assuming these are.. if they arn't whatever and since this is already 'preplanned' it is somewhat redundant for me to be involved if I cannot actually effect the development and frenzia getting whooped it defeats the purpose of getting involved.

whatever, enjoy, if it ain't interactive why interact. It is like a bad video game far from an RP. (bad thing to say on this forum perhaps but I favour RolePlaying over fixed plotlines especially if there is no requirement

one thing, i was saying that you were too new a nation to have been around to see me put up my viral warfare sattelites. they've been up there for AGES. i'm not sure who is big enough to be honest.

Its pretty much any nation over 4 billion population right now, because the thread got eaten way back, and i cant remember when.

oh, and yes, my long range patrol subs can make it down to about 1.8 Km and then there's sonar.

we are not really havng a war anymore i guess, i mean there hasent been any new developements recently(like in the past week or two)

go look now my friend, a couple of fleets just moved in on the blockade. and my army is turning up to have a go at that town...