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Okay, I was thinking, and I had an idea. How about an RP between the Roman Empire, Invading Tribes, and other nations. Feel free to add a few tribes or nations that didn't actually exist.

The Game Starts in the year 300, and will eventually end in the year 500.

Roman Cities
Mother Rome-Zolony
Constantanopal-The Island of Rose

Barbarians

Other

This game will involve the fall of the Roman Empire, and will revolve mainly around the Roman corruption and the Barbarian attempt to take over Rome. This game will not be strictly historical: the Romans can win in the end.

Basically, it's a huge war that will stretch on for a few hundred years. It is a game of political intrigue and war.

The Emperor is Flavius Valerius Constantinus, and Christianity has only recently become legal, and the traditional Roman religon is on the decline.

For all your Roman Info Needs: http://www.roman-empire.net/index.html

So nobodies interested? If it's because I'm new, I'd like to have you know that this is only my alt nation: my other nation has almost 500 posts.

Nobody is interested because you haven't put enough thought or detail into your post describing the RP. You need to give it structure so people know what to expect.

Okay, I added some detail. While this isn't my first RP, it's the first one I've ran.

Bump

more detail needed...

Im mildly interested, but get some more details in there.

Yarr, and do you have MSN? I'd like to help you on this subject.

Yarr, and do you have MSN? I'd like to help you on this subject.
No, but I have AIM.

I am interested in this Rp...but ..more info is required...

Do you mean like info on the Roman Empire, or something else? I found this really nice Roman site that supplemented my knoweledge considerablly.

No, but I have AIM.

Then let me tell you a few things:

By now there were two Empire, East and West. It was controlled by the Tetrarchy. The West having an Emperor (Augustus) and Emperor to Be (Caesar) and the East having the same thing.

The West's Emperor was Diocletian, a fervant hater of Christianity and the East's was Constantius, or something like that. He was easy on them. They both ruled until 305, which is when crap started. Can somebody say Civil War? But eh, you don't have to follow history and retire Diocletian and Constantius (because I plan to play as the East).

The West had to deal with Barbarian, Franks, Alemani, Saxons(?), and whatnot. The East had to deal with the Goths(?) and Sassanids/Parthians. I don't know who was ruling at that time.

So I hope that helps.

Now to pawn you guys with my knowledge of Rome! And yes I might be mildly interested, as the info in your first post means that, despite the spelling mistake, this takes place when Constatius is ruling, one of my favorite times as hi predecessor was Julian the Apostate, who I would be most willing to play.

Anyways, yes, the Empire was split in two, that is until the eastern Empire's Emperor, Constatine, reconquered the other half and made the Empire one again. His son, Constatius, became his successor. Constatius wasn't the best ruler, not having made any significant mark, and had an undescended right testicle which made it impossible for him to produce an heir. He also killed off all his relatives so that they would not try to depose him, with the exception of his younger cousin Julian, a timid scholar. Julian became Caesar, but was meant as a figurehead; he passed his mandate, and saved the province of Gaul from both the barbarians and corruption and decay. I won't get into more detail, but civil war erupted, and Constatius died on his march back from Persia, making Julian Emperor. Julian then went on a massive campaign, two actually, the first one was shunning Christianity and trying to restore the old pagan religions, a failed stunt, his other, which also sadly failed, was his conquest of Persia. He took most of the Persian Empire, but then died of a javelin wound in a battle, where his commanders succeeded him and led the retreat out of Persia. Then the Empire split in two again.

Happy to have been of service.:)

Yeah but err... I'm the East! I claimed it first!

Then let me tell you a few things:

By now there were two Empire, East and West. It was controlled by the Tetrarchy. The West having an Emperor (Augustus) and Emperor to Be (Caesar) and the East having the same thing.

The West's Emperor was Diocletian, a fervant hater of Christianity and the East's was Constantius, or something like that. He was easy on them. They both ruled until 305, which is when crap started. Can somebody say Civil War? But eh, you don't have to follow history and retire Diocletian and Constantius (because I plan to play as the East).

The West had to deal with Barbarian, Franks, Alemani, Saxons(?), and whatnot. The East had to deal with the Goths(?) and Sassanids/Parthians. I don't know who was ruling at that time.

So I hope that helps.Look, I know that stuff, I studied Rome. I just I'm unusually tired this weekend, and I'm having trouble putting my thoughts into words. I'm just going to add a link to a website that has just about EVERYTHING anyone could want to do with the Roman Empire.

Yeah but err... I'm the East! I claimed it first!

If it's the time where Constatius is ruling, there is no Eastern Empire, it's unified again.

Well, since we're doing it city by city, Island of Rose can have Constantanopal.

But it's NOT due to the reforms. Oh and sorry Z. Err... well can you like think of something of details?

It didn't exist back then, right now it's Byzantium. So give me that. :x

And then everybody dies

(This is my main acount, Zolony is my alt).

Okay, tommorow I'll edit it.

Sorry about the lack of detail. When I studied Rome, I focused on the begining to middle, and when I was on the fall, I focused mainly on the Barbarians, not the Romans.

What barbarians are being offered here?

Quaon you old dog, I should have known it was you.

I might be interested in this. I was wondering how things are split up? Are there two people playing east and west or are people playing each city?

Maybe I'll be one of the barbarians...

Considering I RP as the modern version of the Roman Empire, I'm mildly interested (don't know if I will- kind of attached to Rome). A few notes though that could be added for the "setup":

1) The Emperor in 300 was Diocletian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocletian). Diocletian's Empire was really a decentralized entity containing four connected units- "Gallia" (covering Britain, Gaul and Spain), "Italia" (covering North Africa, Raetia (Switzerland), Pannonia and Italy), "Illyricum" (covering Illyria (Yugoslavia), Greece and Moesia (Bulgaria)) and "Oriens" (covering the remaining provinces- Thrace, Asia Minor, Syria, Palestine, southern Armenia, Cyprus and Egypt). Diocletian's system- the Tetrarchy- involved having two senior Emperors ("Augusti") and two junior Emperors ("Caesars"), with one Augustus ruling in the West (Italia and Gallia) and another in the East (Illyricum and Oriens). The capitals of these two entities were not what one would expect- the Western capital was Mediolanum, or modern Milan, while the Eastern capital was Nicomedia, or modern Izmit.

2) The Empire itself was just coming off a period where it was attacked on all sides (the Germanic tribes in the West and the Persians in the East) and faced internal rebellions in the form of the Gallic Empire (Gaul, Britain and Spain) and the Kingdom of Palmyra (Syria, Palestine and Egypt). It wasn't until Aurelian defeated all four threats by 275 that order was restored, leading to Diocletian's reforms. It was thus a state that was again just becoming powerful but it still wasn't nearly as powerful as the state Augustus left.

3) By this stage, the Senate in Rome was becoming even more alienated as the Emperors stripped it of even more powers. Diocletian's reforms also touched how the Romans themselves saw the Empire- no longer was Diocletian labelled as "Princeps" like Augustus was, instituting elaborate ceremonies meant to highlight the importance of the Emperor. "The myth of the Republic", as Augustus tried to make the Romans believe, was finally dissolved by Diocletian's time.

Thus, potentially, in 300, the Roman Empire was on the path to fragmentation. Diocletian's reforms in the 4th century brought incredible stability to the Empire, but it also radically decentralized it. Arguably, if it wasn't for Constantine's victory at Milvian Bridge the Empire might have become four separate states by the end of the 4th century, along the lines of the units created in the Tetrarchy, especially if Maximilian could have won at Milvian Bridge. Furthermore, the Empire could have faced a Senatorial revolt, especially if Senatorial alienation continued.

Potentially, for this RP, there will probably have to be several factions within Rome itself, including the four units of the Tetrarchy, the Augusti and the Senate, where just the competing factions themselves could be a very interesting RP. The barbarians (who will probably have to RP'ed separately, since they were not united yet) and the Persians could be very dominant peripheral figures here.

My two cents.