OOC: Need someone who knows something
Thrashia
04-01-2006, 22:06
Ok, so I'm looking to start an rp where one of the planets I control is rebelling, or in other words having a revolution. My military on location has been smashed, and their equipment and mobile suits have been captured by the rebels.
I need a person who knows mobile suits and their capabilities, but not that wanked out u3er gundams, but real mobile suits. So, if anyone knows them, then say so and we'll work out a way for how you can rp as the rebels. Any input would also be nice.
No endorse
04-01-2006, 22:19
Get me some info on the models you're using and I'll be able to help.
I know my way around a mech.
Thrashia
04-01-2006, 22:30
Get me some info on the models you're using and I'll be able to help.
I know my way around a mech.
Heres my military page, has all the details: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=460984
Principality of Zion
04-01-2006, 22:34
lol, hey man, I love mobile suits! (notice the name) Maybe there can be more than one factions of rebels?
No endorse
04-01-2006, 23:47
Heres my military page, has all the details: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=460984
Ah, there's a lot of Gundam there.
Loved the show, I have a decent idea of the operational constraints of all of them.
Only a few questions:
1) Got a pic of the Taurus Mobile Doll in its transformed mode? EDIT: NVM, found one: linkity (http://www.gundamuniverse.it/W%20Gundam/OZ-12SMS%20Taurus-file/oz-12sms-fightermode.jpe) If you've got a better one though...
3) Do you keep the shield thing from the Virgo from the show? (Those red pads lifted off and made a large shield in front of the thing, preventing anything but big beam-cannons from penetrating)
2) I've completly forgotten, but don't most all of the mechs have thrusters in the rear to help with jumps? The main reason I'm asking is this: when a mech's leg is shot off, it can use those thrusters to stabilize is fall and precisely aim to keep upright. That way it keeps most of its shooting effectiveness, even if it is immobilised.
Thrashia
04-01-2006, 23:59
Ah, there's a lot of Gundam there.
Loved the show, I have a decent idea of the operational constraints of all of them.
Only a few questions:
1) Got a pic of the Taurus Mobile Doll in its transformed mode? EDIT: NVM, found one: linkity (http://www.gundamuniverse.it/W%20Gundam/OZ-12SMS%20Taurus-file/oz-12sms-fightermode.jpe) If you've got a better one though...
3) Do you keep the shield thing from the Virgo from the show? (Those red pads lifted off and made a large shield in front of the thing, preventing anything but big beam-cannons from penetrating)
2) I've completly forgotten, but don't most all of the mechs have thrusters in the rear to help with jumps? The main reason I'm asking is this: when a mech's leg is shot off, it can use those thrusters to stabilize is fall and precisely aim to keep upright. That way it keeps most of its shooting effectiveness, even if it is immobilised.
1) Nope thats the only other one I could find real quick.
2) Yea, they all do, but it can't keep them upright forever, it runs down real fast. its meant mostly for getting around rough terrain real fast.
3) Yea, I keep the shield thing, but no mobile dolls would be deployed by the rebels, and none by my military in retaliation...not early on anyway. And I may make an oportunity for them to capture some MDs if I start using them.
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 00:01
Also, heres a link to a good sight that has anything and everything about mobile suits:
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/gundamright.htm
You're looking at a guy who owns the original movie set, watched 0083, owns Z Gundam, seen a bit into the newer "Seed" series, (Though I admit I don't like it as much as the originals. Half the early plot was practically ripped I can say with certainty.) has over 30 Gundam models lying around his house, and is a decent fan of the series in total.
None of the other RP's I've posted interest in have gone anywhere, but you seem to be the type who follows through. I'm interested, and I'd like to get into this.
(Watching the originals, where conventional weapons actually still stood a chance, and not being a big fan of uberpwnzers mechs, I'll still be able to keep them somewhat realistic despite my degree of fandom >_~ .)
So, whata'ya say? Can I join in?
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 00:14
Of course that would be cool. And yea, my military still relys on conventional weapons besides just the MSs.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Gundams/MS035.jpg
My military has regular 'infantry' and tanks still, along with fighters, all the stuff. Thats why in my opinion mobile suits are sorta PMT really, not just ft.
No endorse
05-01-2006, 00:19
my numbers appear to be off... anywho
1) aight, tis cool. I think that pacifist nation had like 6 mechs that looked like those, but were not mobile doll, but whatever. I think I know their capabilities.
2) Yeah, I just meant to let them land steady and try to land so they can still use their weapons
3) gotcha.
If you want me to do this, I need only a few more questions answered:
What types of capabilities am I looking at for the rebels? (as in are they organized and large or small pockets allied together, but ready to break apart?) Also, what motives? How is their training? (as in do I have the B squad, civie rednecks, or the big alpha army dudes? Or is it a combination?)
After that, a short description of the world and what forces I'd have, and I'll be more than set to get this rockin and rollin.
EDIT: Hey Kyanges, how ya doin?
He might be better suited for this. (no pun intended) He's probably watched the serieses more recently than I have (sick sadistic blockbuster SOBs, not carrying anything good)
I'd still like to do this though, if it's possible to have several players.
Anagonia
05-01-2006, 00:27
If it helps at all, I used to Role Play at Gundam.com in its old Role Playing forums very long ago. I used Kaemfers and DOM's, and basically no gundams at all. If you would like, I can use my past experience to Role Play "Old Style" with Mobile Suits and assist you.
If you would like.
Btw, if Gundam.com rings anyones bell, I was Apocalypse Hawk on there.
EDIT:
Thrasia,
my MSN is Hawk30168 at Bellsouth dot net (Anagonia/Nodea Rudav)
My AIM is Hawk30168
Contact me sometime, I'd love to get back into the Gundam rping thingie
Korgarein
05-01-2006, 00:34
Something you might think about Thrashia, is that with all the interested parties you are getting and like Principality of Zion asked, you could have multiple rebal factions. In order to do well, they would have to learn to co-operate in order to make large tactical strikes or stay as rag-tag bands of rebals that attack randomly and are as annoying to find as they are with low numbers. Just something to think about.. seems it would add depth to it. Either way i'm gona keep an eye on this for a good read as least. Good luck with it to all.
my numbers appear to be off... anywho
1) aight, tis cool. I think that pacifist nation had like 6 mechs that looked like those, but were not mobile doll, but whatever. I think I know their capabilities.
2) Yeah, I just meant to let them land steady and try to land so they can still use their weapons
3) gotcha.
If you want me to do this, I need only a few more questions answered:
What types of capabilities am I looking at for the rebels? (as in are they organized and large or small pockets allied together, but ready to break apart?) Also, what motives? How is their training? (as in do I have the B squad, civie rednecks, or the big alpha army dudes? Or is it a combination?)
After that, a short description of the world and what forces I'd have, and I'll be more than set to get this rockin and rollin.
EDIT: Hey Kyanges, how ya doin?
He might be better suited for this. (no pun intended) He's probably watched the serieses more recently than I have (sick sadistic blockbuster SOBs, not carrying anything good)
I'd still like to do this though, if it's possible to have several players.
Fine. Though you give me too much credit sometimes. To the furthest extent, I'm just a sad fanboy. I only watched the various spin-offs a few months ago... In my opinion, Anagonia is probably better off, having RPed Gundam type stuff like he mentioned.
EDIT: "atrocious."
No endorse
05-01-2006, 00:41
Something you might think about Thrashia, is that with all the interested parties you are getting and like Principality of Zion asked, you could have multiple rebal factions. In order to do well, they would have to learn to co-operate in order to make large tactical strikes or stay as rag-tag bands of rebals that attack randomly and are as annoying to find as they are with low numbers. Just something to think about.. seems it would add depth to it.
If I may be a meddling so and so, this I like... I'd take a smallish group if this is the case. Decent mechs, but small numbers, and sparse repair parts and ammo.
There's only one thing that might stay this idea, and that's the number of people who might get involved. We don't want it to be infuriatingly complicated.
-snip Kyanges-
Few months is better than the hazy memories from when the Wing series was on Toonami. But whatever. (BTW, Tom II sucked. The first one was so much better. But nooo, they had to spartanize him.)
EDIT: :D like I said.
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 00:45
If you want me to do this, I need only a few more questions answered:
What types of capabilities am I looking at for the rebels? (as in are they organized and large or small pockets allied together, but ready to break apary?) Also, what motives? How is their training? (as in do I have the B squad, civie rednecks, or the big alpha army dudes? Or is it a combination?)
After that, a short description of the world and what forces I'd have, and I'll be more than set to get this rockin and rollin.
Alrighty then. *clears throat*
The rebels for the most part are industrial workers, men and women who have piloted working model mobile suits that are meant only for construction. Your force will contain members of the planet's militia, police, and other civies; so your ground force will have some experiance.
There are two main groups (one can be for Kyanges to rp as) one is the industrial right, grouped with the planets militia and police. They for the most part will have the majority of the mobile suits.
The other group is made mostly of ground infantry types, men who work in labor, are clerks, shopowners, the regular joes. However they do have the police and a few militia themselves to help train them. This group also will have the privledge of being the ones who raided and captured the Thrashian Military's Assault Trooper barracks, where they keep a lot of the ground fire power such as bazooka's and anti-armor type weaponry; thus giving them an edge.
What motivates them is the opressive planetary government under a dictator-like guy named Rudolf Khan. Because the planet is such a good source of minerals and other natural reasources Thrashia is forced to send troops to deal with the situation. But the rebels want autonomy.
As to the world itself, its has one big super continenant and has at least four different types of terrain: desert, forest, mountain, plains. I can try getting a map up for you guys.
The Xeno
05-01-2006, 00:47
OOC: I sometimes feel like I'm the only FT nation who doesn't use these uber grav, planet-buster guns. Xeno weaponry is very basic... it doesn't rely on this unrealistic bullcrap about particle accelleration and junk. It's ballistics. >_> A gun is a gun.
Korgarein
05-01-2006, 00:47
If I may be a meddling so and so, this I like... I'd take a smallish group if this is the case. Decent mechs, but small numbers, and sparse repair parts and ammo.
There's only one thing that might stay this idea, and that's the number of people who might get involved. We don't want it to be infuriatingly complicated.
You would of course limit the number some to like say 3 or 4 at the most and then Thrashia at the most. I just really like this idea cause it would force the rebals to raid targets for supplies like you said. And most likely they would all be old models of MS's so you would need to haw in as much as you could. And then you could of course add that 'hero' main charater that might have had some past experence and finds something in the back like a special forces sniper Zaku but its rusty or something and needs parts to work so you have to take them.
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 00:49
Wow, got like four guys willing to rp. I'll have to think of some more rebel groups! *cackles madly and goes at it*
OOC: I sometimes feel like I'm the only FT nation who doesn't use these uber grav, planet-buster guns. Xeno weaponry is very basic... it doesn't rely on this unrealistic bullcrap about particle accelleration and junk. It's ballistics. >_> A gun is a gun.
Well, you're not. And you should feel proud. However, particle accelerators are very real... >_~. (Maybe not how they're used here on NS/II though... >_>).
Plus a gun may be a gun, but a planet killer is oh so much more... Some guns have higher velocities, some guns are big, some guns shoot lasers, some guns shoot nukes... Yeah, I'm rambling, but I'd like to make it clear that I admire you for deciding to keep at the level you're at so far, and I'd admire you even more if you stay that way.
EDIT: Depending on the gun (I'm assuming you use actual projectiles.), it's not all ballistics...
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 00:57
I will detail here the majority of the types of mobile suits you rebel scum- I mean rebel guys will have:
The Leo Ground Type:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Gundams/OZ-06MS_Leo_Early_Type.gif
The Zaku type I:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Gundams/MS-05A.gif
And maybe a few of these babies:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Gundams/OZ-07MS.gif
And then you'll have the regular foot-slogging infantry toting rifles and grenades, and a few anti-armor rockets.
Korgarein
05-01-2006, 01:00
Leo's are nice, but I always loved seeing a skilled pilot use the Zaku's 'HeatHawk'. Carved mobilsuit anyone?
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 01:06
Ok then, so I can count on you guys to be the following:
Rebels
No Endorse
Korgarein
Kyanges
Anagonia
Thrashian Military
Thrashia
Not sure where to put you
Principality of Zion
Korgarein
05-01-2006, 01:08
Well, i was really only helping with ideas but I got nothing else going on so sure.
Anagonia
05-01-2006, 01:09
A Zaku type I....oh baby...please...please! Lemme have it! LEMME HAVE IT!
The Xeno
05-01-2006, 01:15
Well, you're not. And you should feel proud. However, particle accelerators are very real... >_~. (Maybe not how they're used here on NS/II though... >_>).
Plus a gun may be a gun, but a planet killer is oh so much more... Some guns have higher velocities, some guns are big, some guns shoot lasers, some guns shoot nukes... Yeah, I'm rambling, but I'd like to make it clear that I admire you for deciding to keep at the level you're at so far, and I'd admire you even more if you stay that way.
EDIT: Depending on the gun (I'm assuming you use actual projectiles.), it's not all ballistics...
Bleh. You know what I'm talking about. =p The stuff most people use as small arms is just.. silly.
And yeah, the Xeno M1 carbine is a 75 caliber (It'd kick like a mofo, but has a specialized recoil compensation system.) assault rifle that uses standard FMJ (Full metal jacket) rounds. Of course, you could always load in armor piercing rounds. Or even hollow tip. Not that hollow tip would be very effective against people wearing any sort of armor..
*scratches tail*
No endorse
05-01-2006, 01:21
A Zaku type I....oh baby...please...please! Lemme have it! LEMME HAVE IT!
XD we know someone who's going happy lol.
-snippity Thrash's summary-
I'll take the guys with mostly infantry and ground-fire weapons. (I hear the words 'Guerrilla fighters' blaring in me ears ^_^)
As for the part about terrain:
Have you ever been to Eastern NC? If so, is there terrain like that? If not, here's a description: There is dense forest. Then there is VERY dense marshy forest too. Add in some rivers/lakes. Then there are LARGE (we're talking a dozen square miles) open fields used for cultivation. However, these fields are still almost always completly surrounded by forest and marshy forest. Then there are really muddy areas where the forest has been harvested for timber. Add in some decent dry land and a bare few natural fields, and you're set with your own model of Hyde County.
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 01:23
Well, I just finished a rough-draft on the map. Let me post it and see what you guys think.
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 01:33
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Gundams/map-ig2.gif
Now it is kinda crude, and has no cities marked, or where my military bases where or are, and the best I can say is that the dark parts are mountains, the other lighter is either: plains, desert, or heavy forest.
EDIT: One grid would be about 35-50 miles squared. I'm not sure how big we should make the continent.
Anagonia
05-01-2006, 01:35
Oh goodie, goodie, goodie!
I want to start now! I want a Zaku type I, I want to- *looks at pants* Hmmm...I seemed to have missed that...
(Oh I just can't wait, maybe a leo...)
Antanjyl
05-01-2006, 01:50
Ah! I love the Mobile Suit series! Well since you seem to have enough I think I'll just stand back and watch everything go down from here. Good luck with the RP.
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 01:53
Oh goodie, goodie, goodie!
I want to start now! I want a Zaku type I, I want to- *looks at pants* Hmmm...I seemed to have missed that...
(Oh I just can't wait, maybe a leo...)
Whoa there Anagonia, hold your horses. Alright now, I'm gonna start the rp with a distress call from Rudolf Khan to Thrashian Homeworld telling them of the revolt, and how him and his men have been driven to the southern edge of the continent, and another section driven into the top left open section between the mountains. Thats where I start.
Remember though, the planet's population is about 1.3 million, and not all of them are rebels. So unless you want to piss off your fellows by being as brutal as Rudolf, then you'll find that I can find out where your hide outs are.
Now, I'll post up the types of resources you currently have, and you get to make up the leaders of each group.
No Endorse:
-Infantry Majority
Men: roughly 5,000; mix of police, militia, civilians
Weapons: rifles, assault weapons, grenades, anti-armor rockets, about 34 captured Alpha-class tanks and dozens of other captured vehicles.
Mobile Suits: 20 captured Leo Ground Types; armed only with standard 120mm machine guns
Location: mid-west-north area of the continent
Anagonia:
-Mobile Suit Majority
Men: roughly 3,000; mostly ex-militia, some police, industrial workers
Weapons: rifles, assault weapons, grenades, anti-armor, captured MS transports
Mobile Suits: 50 vintage model Zaku Is, 34 Leo ground types, 3 Aries; all armed with standard 120mm machine guns, also a few MS dober guns.
Location: Mid-east-south area of the continent
Kyanges:
-Mostly Infantry
Men: 17,000; most regular civilians, a large portion of ex-police
Weapons: rifles, assault weapons, grenades, anti-armor rockets, 30 captured Alpha-class tanks
Location: South East corner of the continent
Korgarein:
-Mostly Infantry
Men: 7,000; most industrial workers or regular civilains, small portion of ex-police
Weapons: rifles, assault weapons, grenades, anti-armor rockets
Mobile Suits: 10 captured Zaku Is; 120mm MGs
Korgarein
05-01-2006, 01:53
I'll take what ever ya give me... I'd even play a single character if you can think of one or had something in mind or if ya just want me to help on tactics and stuff and not and an actual group thats fine too. Let me know what you need.
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 01:57
Heres a little pic, just for Anagonia, lol:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Gundams/New20York20occupata.jpg
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 01:58
Also, as the war really starts, you can start recruiting more men from the populace.
Anagonia
05-01-2006, 02:02
Heres a little pic, just for Anagonia, lol:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Gundams/New20York20occupata.jpg
*changes pants again* DAMNIT! STOP THAT!
Ok, thanks man, I seriously am going to enjoy this.
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 02:06
bump for the others to confirm.
No endorse
05-01-2006, 02:21
No Endorse:
-Infantry Majority
Men: roughly 5,000; mix of police, militia, civilians
Weapons: rifles, assault weapons, grenades, anti-armor rockets, about 34 captured Alpha-class tanks and dozens of other captured vehicles.
Mobile Suits: 20 captured Leo Ground Types; armed only with standard 120mm machine guns
Location: mid-west-north area of the continent
Looks great! I'm going into the swamps. You'll see me eventually. ::goes into swamp:: (henceforth, I shall be known as the creature from the black lagoon)
EDIT: were you reading my mind into exactly what I wanted?
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 02:23
*smile* maybe just a little bit...I've been known to guess what people where thinking. Anyway, I have the opening post written up, and you can all add in with your characters and their forces. Just remember where you're located and then you will know where to be rp'ing in the location. Cheers, and good luck.
EDIT: Link: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10207443#post10207443
Korgarein
05-01-2006, 02:36
Korgarein:
-Mostly Infantry
Men: 7,000; most industrial workers or regular civilains, small portion of ex-police
Weapons: rifles, assault weapons, grenades, anti-armor rockets
Mobile Suits: 10 captured Zaku Is; 120mm MGs
Didn't even see that before my last post.. ok. no problem.
EDITED: Need location information please.
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 02:43
Didn't even see that before my last post.. ok. no problem.
EDITED: Need location information please.
Grid 6-7; 6 over from the bottom, seven up. That one clear patch in the mountains, except for the top-left corner.
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 02:58
I'm off for the rest of the night, so I hope to see you guys create come interesting characters for me to face off against. Seeya later.
And if you have anymore questions then just telegram me, or post here. I guess here is what'll be our ooc room.
Night.
Korgarein
05-01-2006, 03:03
Ok, and I was wondering if you use any form of IM? As well, would that 'cold north' in the mountains be refering to my little patch of mountains?
EDITED: night.
SeaQuest
05-01-2006, 03:11
Bleh. You know what I'm talking about. =p The stuff most people use as small arms is just.. silly.
And yeah, the Xeno M1 carbine is a 75 caliber (It'd kick like a mofo, but has a specialized recoil compensation system.) assault rifle that uses standard FMJ (Full metal jacket) rounds. Of course, you could always load in armor piercing rounds. Or even hollow tip. Not that hollow tip would be very effective against people wearing any sort of armor..
*scratches tail*
I mostly use PPG weapons (Babylon 5 style guns) because bullets have a tendancy to puncture the hull.
@Thrashia: If you need anyone fighting with you against the Rebels, let me know. I would love to field test my Grandpas prototypes (I can give you the stats if you want) against other piloted combat 'suits'.
@Thrashia: Hmmm... I seem to be the only semi-conventional force on the field... Excellent... I can't wait to take down some of your big bad mechs with my infantry hoards.
EDIT: Although, I have to say, my force doesn't seem very suited for my conditions. If it's just lots of open ground, my tanks might have a slim chance, but my inf is going to get slaughtered. Can it be mostly forest at least? Since your map descriptions leave that open as a possibility.
No endorse
05-01-2006, 04:16
http://photobucket.com/albums/a161/anomaly149/?action=view¤t=propoganda2.gif
We have the propoganda department hard at work.
EDIT: the propoganda department is not responsible for bad pieces.
Thrashia
05-01-2006, 09:22
Seaquest: Thanks for the offer, but I think I can handle 'em....(wonders about famous last words)
Kyanges: From the equator south is mostly all dense forest and hills. Your area would be hilly terrain with large clusters of heavy forest, and a few plains. SO don't worry about that.
Anagonia: lmao, thats great. I'll have to come up with my own. lol.
SeaQuest
05-01-2006, 19:37
@Thrashia: Understood. Keep me in mind if you ever need help.
Korgarein
05-01-2006, 22:33
OK guys, Posted a starter for my charater and his people. Keep in mind that there are parts about his past and training i left out for later posts.
Korgarein
06-01-2006, 01:18
Just a heads up for rumor posts and such. My group is calling themeselves the "Kaledan Liberation Front" or "KLF" for sort. I'll add that part in the next post most likely.
Anagonia
06-01-2006, 01:32
WOOOOHOOOO!
Gonna enjoy this rp....waiting for others...