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So why does no-one play PT? If you dont know what it is, its past tech.

The first time I roleplayed with a nation that got deleted (due to inactivity) a long time ago was against a friend. I was a newb then (maybe even a noob) and we marched million men armies into each others countries and godmodded to hell. It also had a fantasy element, he had psychic frogs who could control your minds and the weather (the weirdo) and I had dragons, and loads of them. Oh and it was also based on the middle ages

But It was fun and I would love to do that again, now I know alot more about RPing. The weird thing is that not too long ago there were plenty of Civilisation and Total war RP's (even one age of Empires RP) but no (at least to my knowledge) RP's using our NS nations in the past technology. This just doesn't make sense to me.

So I was wandering, maybe I could start a PT RP, based in the middle ages with a little bit of fantasy. Maybe each nation has one fantasy attribute (maybe dragon units, a selection of wizards, they are an elvish race).

So any one interested or any comments?


Participants:

Fantasy Medieval
Topal
Krendakov
Emporer Pudu
SilverCities
Drexel Hillsville
Philanchez (prefers pure)
Callisdrun


Pure Medieval
Aust
Kordo
Philanchez
Rodenka


Although Im sure many of the fantasy would do pure medieval too.

Id be interested minus the fantasy...

Yeh I was never certain If that would go down well. I personally like it, but I will wait for more views.

I'm mostly intrested in MT, but I did just start a PAST RP. Kurona another nation here is a nation that hasent overly modernized either. it's all about personal tast. Personally I wouldnt mind PT's

What kind of past RP?

I'd be intrested, minus the fantisy. You could create your own PT civilisations and stuff.

Damn I like the fantasy part. Ah well I will wait 4 more views.
You could create your own PT civilisations and stuff.
Why would I make a new civilisation? Wait what do you mean?

How am I going to make a Socialist nation work in PT though? If we are going to use our NS nations we may have to modify some a bit, me thinks...

I see. When I say your own nation, I mean your nation-700 years or so.

Damn I like the fantasy part. Ah well I will wait 4 more views.

Why would I make a new civilisation? Wait what do you mean?
Like your own nation, for instance my nation is it's own seperate civillisation in MT and FT, diffrent to anything else.

Oh i see.

I would do Past RP's if there was more people involved. No fantasy though to much of a chance for god-moding

I just started a PAST RP about how my nations founder and her fellowship began spreading Democrasy in the world, so many years ago. It's open to anyone, and anytype of character.

I reckon we could control the godmodding if we place strict boundries at the start. Ok reasons for a war. Religion is what Im thinking.

Democracy? So not middle ages?

No, early 1800's

As I thought.

Intrested?

I actually have a past-tech nation (it'll start in the early Middle Ages and go on through various RPs into the modern times), I'm just working on improving its stats. That and I'm far too busy with other things right now (my current MT and PMT RPs).

Nah Im not really into the 1800 theme at the moment. Maybe another time.

I think its pretty much agreed that Past tech minus the fantasy would be great. Now how were you planning on doing this? Like an earth or something?

Hm Im not sure. I want to do this, but I was thinking of using our nations back in the middle ages.

If you decide to go for fantasy, telegram me. Otherwise I'm not really that intereasted.

I just want dragons! :P Dragonriders of Pern books rule!

Krendakov: I may be interested in a fantasy PT RP, I would use my nation as the Shoon Imperium from the D&D Forgotton Realms past.

I would have no objections to dragons or anything like that, as long as there is a belivable reason to have them, and I would employ my own magic and maybe even a fantastic creature or two.

Interested?

I know a nation that might be into a Fantasy RP

I'm interested, go on...

Well I kinda prefer fantasy, so seeing as I now have some interest, fantasy it is. Shoon Imperium? Tell me about them? I dont know D&D. Or pern books for that matter. Describe your fantasy troops and then we will see. Please do not make the RP dominated by fantasy, just they give each nation an edge.

Definately interested, when I did the Rp thing with my nation when I first started here the Fantasy elements were always kept plausable.. I still consider my nation PT... if you get something up and running would love to perhaps Put my hand in... *smiles*

Wanna give a description of your fantasy units?

Hm what should mine be. Hm.

Mine? LOL its easy.. since my nation is a matriarchy my armies are almost entirely Female... think middle ages with the ruling class entirely made up of women, including religious positons. I did more diplomatic Rp's rather then fight wars.... but I have no problems making up a military structure should you really need one.

I'd be interested but I would use my pupet account. It allows me less confusion. The only thing that I would care about is who is attacking and who is defending, at least at the start. I would perfer to defend.

My nation, Hades Deep, was a group that was exiled from Hell for trying to take over. It uses mostly things like swords, arrows, axes, etc. with a little dark fantasy. The leader is Azreal, the Horseman of Death. The other horsemen, War, Famine, and Plague are his major assistants.

Dark Magic Used:
Casting Rain
Casting a Wall of Fire

Fantasy Units Uses:
Minitaurs
Dark Centaurs
The Damned (skeletons)

The Magic and Fantasy Units are NOT common things.
My army is mostly Humans with demons as officers.

Your fantasy unit is a women? Ok its.......different.

well it made sense to me since I am female to have my leaders and such female too. Just taking all the attitudes medeval males had and reversed them. I of course have accomplished swordswomen and knights... *smiles*

Fantasy...ehh I guess I can deal with it. I will probably use Aiel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiel) and Aes Sedai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aes_Sedai). Although I could also insert some Asha'man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asha%27man).

I understood little about those races, but ok. Just choose one I think.

Dragons, I will list them in order of size (biggest to smallest):
Gold(queen): female, do not fight but lay eggs
Bronze: male, they mate with the gold the gold dragons and fight
Brown: male, only slightly smaller than a bronze (A large brown may be able to mate with a gold), they fight
Blue: male, fighting dragons
Green: female, smallest of the dragons, fighting dragons

In order to breathe fire the dragons must have a phosphane bearing rock named "fire-rock". Ingesting this rock causes green dragons to become sterile although they do still mate.

I may do Fire-Lizards (see above and replace "dragons" with "fire-lizards") which are about the size of a hawk. They wouldn't be much use in battle but might be an annoyance. And don't worry about the teleportation the dragons and fire-lizards have in the pern books, I won't have it (however much of an advantage it would give me)

Sorry, was reading over copy of Lost Empires of Faerun's bit on the Shoon Imperium again.

Shoon Imperium: In the sixth age of Cailmishan the Shoon Dynasty established it's brutal rule over the empire. During the next four centuries the Shoon Imperium also gained control of lands from the River Chionthar to Tashalar, and from the Trackless Sea to the landrise. The dynasty of Shoon spanned a mere fourteen rulers, and all of it's Emperors were talented spellcasters and arcane reaserchers who delighted in creating magic items and spells.

Four centuries of unbridled Shoon Expansionism demanded construction on an un-heard of scale. Dozens of thick-walled fort-towers and watchtowers were bui;ld to secure newly conquered land, and numerous extravagant plazas were built with colourful stones and bricks to house the ever-travalling roayl court. In secret, the Shoon Emperors ordered the creation of subterranian chamber where tey could conduct life-prolingning experiments in the utmost privacy and secret.

Fantasy Units: I, as I sense you do, hate it when people butcher fantasy RPs, I hate it when I see "a million dragons flies down and eats you" or something like that, my army would be vast numbers of human and halfling slaves with minimal weapons, followed by a significantly smaller ammount of real, trained troops. These men would be exelent fighters, having fought and won a war of conquest laying waste to three seperate nations, and driving an entire people out of their homes. These men would be backed up by a medium sized (smaller than the ammount of elite soldiers, maybe half of that..) unit of battlefeild mages specializing in Fire spells, and spells that deal with heat.

more ta come...

2 questions, how many dragons, how intelligent, and any humans?

Hello, so your starting a Fantasy RP? Can you give me some details?
i'm a magic based nation, my national Animal is the Dragon.

I edited my previous post. Is Hades Deep acceptable?

2 questions, how many dragons, how intelligent, and any humans?
That's three questions :P

1) They are quite rare, one for every thousand humans sound good? (remember that there will be very few of the larger ones)

2) As Intelligent as a human, though they look at the world differantly.

3) Humans will be there, I need support for the dragons.

On another note, let's hope this can be fun without continuous warring on the part of everyone, eh?

Yeh we doing RP based in middle ages with a small amount of fantasy units. I'd prefer if they were all unique (exception is wizards and magic and the like), so dragons are taken.

I was thinking Pudu, your pretty imperialistic so you may want to invade the isle of Topal to obtain its rich resources.

Also if we are using our nation populations, the smaller the nation the larger number of fantasy units (or the more powerful).

What you reckon?

lol i added the intelligent question as an after thought.

I wouldn't be using my nationstates nation for this particular RP if that's okay with everyone.

All three of the things I posted are groups of humans. Although Ive decided on just haveing Aiel and Asha'man.

Now that you've decided its going to be a fantasy RP wont we have to have a map? Just wondering...

In good time. Any one good at that sorta thing, cos I'm not.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/Faerunmap.JPG

A map of Faerun. Calimshan is in the southwest, but at this point in the Shoon Dynasty the empire stretched as far north as the High Moor area (River Chionthar, and a little bit of creeping expansionism), and east out to the Sea of Fallen Stars, to a north-eastern border with Cormyr, and a south-eastern border along the River Minta, Cloven Mountians, and The Orsraun Mountians.

Invading a mineral-rich island, sounds like something I would do.

Forget minerals! Ive got Aiel and Asha'man!

Forget minerals! Ive got Aiel and Asha'man!

But we (I) don't know what that is/are/was...

My nation is pretty much a city state so how about I am in the Endless wastes? My nation is a large city with hundred of tunnels beneath it. The lower tunnels are used for mining. I have a hidden exit from the tunnels in the fores near the thge Endless mists.

*points to links on page three*

That should help explain but if you still dont get it IM me and ill explain...

Highlight AIM= blindgoose444

That map I think is a bit overcomplicated and big. But if you guys prefer it, we will use it. I would prefer a simple map made with art by some1. If we do not use our own nations, should we use its stats (population etc) anyways to decide things? And my idea on the smaller the nation the greater the fantasy unit? yay or nay?

I agree with you completely on everything. yay

That map is VERY complicated and huge, and i don't care if we use ot or not, I just wanted to show the land my territory occupied.

On another note, now I'm interested in using this map elsehwere, when I am not covering three nations with my territory. If anyone who knows a little about Faerun (enough to run a nation there) wants to do an RP there, like an earth, I would set it up.

I may make a recruiting thread for that after I finish with this RP...

Also, what kind of military sizes would we use, as it would be very hard to construct and support a modern sized navy back then, what do we base it off of?

http://img6.picsplace.to/img.php?file=img6/10/themap.PNG

Amazing what a few minutes on paint will do...

A map of what though?

anything really

its just a map that could be possibly used and i could easily update...

I've written up my nation in the ability to switch between FT, MT, and PT. I usually stick to FT, but if I ever decided to drop out of that arena, then I could fall back onto my PT or MT type nation.

That could be the map for this RP. Like a sorta world for this RP, if you like.

Armies? I leave that to each nation to judge, obviously depends on nation size and its economic power. I will decide if if its fair or not.

I still cant think what my unit is. I was thinking maybe a few King Kong style apes, but im not sure.

I'd like to suggest a map which I just made.

http://img8.picsplace.to/img.php?file=img8/5/RP_map.jpg

That could be the map for this RP. Like a sorta world for this RP, if you like.

Armies? I leave that to each nation to judge, obviously depends on nation size and its economic power. I will decide if if its fair or not.

I still cant think what my unit is. I was thinking maybe a few King Kong style apes, but im not sure.

You might try giants, They can work as artilery if you think about it.

Yeh I was thinking giants too.

That map could do with some more detail.....

Giants it is. I mean big giants. 25 ft tall. And strong. Act as artillary cos they throw giant heavy boulders very far and fast. Very stupid.

I would personally love to do a RP based in the middle ages. I already have ideas for my nation and the like.

We could even have different zone with different styles of fighting.

Like the heavy armor of Europe, the lighter armed armies of the Greeks and Arabs, and the fighting styles and weapons of the Chinese, Japanese, and Mongols.

There are giants in my nation, they have holds in the deep desert and mountians, it really depends on the terrain type, and at this point my empire covers everything save for forzen tundra, but this could be replaced by high snowy mountians and such.

Just about anything you could think of would find a home in my nation, giants of a half-dozen varieties, elves, halflings, anything.

It would just not fit to use these creatures in my army as anything save for a few humanoid slaves and some larger or more powerful mentally dominated ones, like giants.

Personally I play a type of fantasy that nobody else seems too: Steampunk. Magic and Zeppelins baby, magic and zeppelins....plus lots of WW1 stuff to make it even more fun!

Wait, if giants and magic and stuff is getting in, count me out. I'm in this for Past Tech, not Fantasy Tech.

I'd be interested, I've been wanting to RP medievel armies and whatnot for the longest time, now. I'll probably RP my NS country in the middle ages, meaning my weapons and tactics will be more along the lines of ancient Rome mixed with a bit of eastern influence (horce archers...yea, that's probably it...)

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I've also always wondered why PT is not much used. I normally play MT, but have a lot of cultural holdovers from my nation's middle ages... which were... weird, as I RP it as having never been Christianized.

In medieval times, Callisdrunians you could basically think of as vikings, but more gothy. I also have Moroii, which are a kind of vampires (they don't fly or anything though).

Pudu, you cant have a variety of fantasy units, It makes the RP unfair.

As soon as we decide on a map, I will start the thread.

Maybe another time I will do a 'proper' medieval RP without fantasy units, but I think I want some fun with fantasy.

Wait, if giants and magic and stuff is getting in, count me out. I'm in this for Past Tech, not Fantasy Tech.
Agreed, I'd Rp my nation as MA PT, a mix between Japanise and British cutures, with a bit of Austian thrown in....

I'd be in for a PT RP. Sounds like a lot of fun, though I am a bit iffy on the Fantasy Tech. Leaves it open for godmodding imho.


My guys would be like your traditional Teutonic Knights. Heavy cavalry, and lots of it.

See first post:

Participants:

Fantasy Medieval
Topal
Krendakov
Emporer Pudu
SilverCities
Drexel Hillsville
Philanchez (prefers pure)
Callisdrun


Pure Medieval
Aust
Kordo
Philanchez
Rodenka


Although Im sure many of the fantasy would do pure medieval too.


So Im doing fantasy. Hope every1's still up for it. Ive decided also to allow Pudu his nation choice, as long as he doesn't have too much of anything.
Every1's fantasy units seem acceptable.

Maybe I do pure later.

All we need now is a map I like, I think we can do better than the last few.

I'd join just for the opportunity to do PT, but I'm not going to have any fantasy stuff in my army. You can magic my stuff so it turns in giant, bloodthirst firesquids and whatnot if you like, but I'd like to keep to swords and bows for my RPing. Or are dragons and wizards compulsory?

Yo. I haven't read this thread because frankly, I'm lazy. But I'll answer your question because I love everybody! Now then...

To make it simple, we like blowing up stuff. We like blowing buildings up, we like blowing tanks up, we like blowing entire cities up. That and most of the NS World is modern, now then. If you were to make a thread (which I assumed you have, I just haven't seen it) about PT, then you might get more people.

That and I prefer Ancient Greece to the Middle Ages.

Sovietain that'd be fine.

Rose we gonna start the thread soon, I just need a decent map.

I can do regular past tech, too. I RP my Moroii in all my MT RP's as well, they're not that powerful. They've just got a bit more endurance/speed/sometimes physical strength and durability than a normal human. However, they need to drink blood, and get sunburned easily and rapidly, and can't see very well in bright light.

I'm up for either fantasy tech or regular past tech.

Alright, my armies will not be that diverse, at all. The Shoon Imperium os a bit racist towards...well, everyone. They will only have human males born of an honourable house in their armies, but this does not make them scarce. Nearly all of the houses of the Great Shoon Empire's homeland are honourable, as this rank is decided only by the fact that those who deal with outsiders are dishonourable.

I am not bland fantasy either, I have no dragons breathing fire, no wizards in blue robes with pointy hats, and no knights in shining armour. My army will almost never consist of anything but humans and a few captured halflings and elven slaves. I was mearly noting how diverse my army could be.

My men are not European at all, they resemble men on the Arabian Penninsula more, in fact totaly. The basic spear armed warrior of my army is a man of about twenty who grew up in or on the outskirts of a great Calishite city, they are hardened from combat in any enviornment, after the long periods of conquest undertaken by the Imperium. They will wear a turban covering their head and face, and sometimes it flowes down a little behind them, to keep the sun off. They will have an undershirt of silk or similar material. Over this they wear a very light covering of leather and chain-mail armour, usualy just a short chain shirt and a couple leather shoulderpads. Over this they wear a loose robe hanging down the rest of their body. Under the robe they wear pants, of many differing materials, and sometimes they have leather leg armour pad things. On their feet they wear sandals tied on tight to allow running and the such. As stated, most basic warriors are armed with a spear and light wooden and hide shield, although many warriors are armed instead with a scimitar or short composite bow.

The foot warriors march behind the slaves, who are armed with clubs, daggers, and whatever they could find on the way there. Behind the foot warriors there are the Caliph Guard, who wear heavier armour and weild massive two handed scimitars called falchions. They are the best of the Shoonite army, and always guard the field commander of whatever battle they take place in. If they are mounted they would wield a lace, scimitar, and composite short bow, to be fired from saddle.

Moving on the flanks of the army would be a force of light and medium cavalry, most on horses, but some units favour camals. They are all either armed with scimitars, lances, and wooden shields, or composite shortbows.

The most elite of the army however, would be the cadre of spellcasters serving as artillery support, feild medics, fire support, and even, when beefed up with strength and speed enhancing magic, elite close combat support. They can also be used to cast large area effect benificiary spells on units undergoing a specific mission, like invisibilty or bulls strength.

That makes up for the fact that I am all just squishy little humans.

Ok pudu thats cool.
I've decided to use philanchez's map:
http://img6.picsplace.to/img.php?file=img6/10/themap.PNG

I can whip up a map for you guys....

The map of Callisdrun I have is here: http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a296/bassistsartori/callisdrunandlandsadjacent.jpg

Argh dont start making your own map, it makes things confusing. USSNA a map would be nice.
I just want one moderately detailed map showing a continent to fight on, with mixed climates.

Argh dont start making your own map, it makes things confusing. USSNA a map would be nice.
I just want one moderately detailed map showing a continent to fight on, with mixed climates.

I made that map more than a year ago, it's the one I've always RPed with.
USSNA could just do a rough outline of CD as shown on the map and draw it at the northern end of his.

I guess.
Ive got a potential world map, could some1 give me their email so they can host it? Its not great though.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/JackShadow173/Map_Of_Zaroth.jpg

map of an old RP I did. I can make you a new map, but that is better than you have now.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10213074#post10213074

Cheers for the map, but could u just add one island to it, sorry. RPs begun here, all related threads have FM tag on the end.

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http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10217239#post10217239

Pure past Tech planning and discussion thread.

Screw it, my thread's going nowhere Im joining the pure Medieval and cancelling the fantasy.

But then I can't play. :(

Callisdrun if u get ur own fantasy Rp going, I will join that too.

I mean, I don't usually play like, High Fantasy, but people often don't like that I have Moroii, even though they don't really give me any advantages. If people let me use them in the past tech one, I'll join that.

Aust might. He lets elves in.

But no magic!

I will join back up if you are only doing past tech. I can acept those mejio or whatevers. As long as there is nothing like the big monsters in LOTR are invloved.

Join Austs RP then, since theres no magic or strange beasts.