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(Earth II)The Iron Hammer(Attn Liebermonk)

Pantheaa
01-01-2006, 11:00
Peoples Confederation Of Pantheaa declares war against
Liebermonk...invades Liechtenstein

(Liechtenstein)- At 4:00 am Russia time, the 10,000 strong 16th Airborne division followed along by the 10th Airborne division will be parachuting into Liechtenstein to reclaim the land for the workers of Europe. Legions of transport aircraft are set to take off from the Kersk territory to begin the first stage of attack. The divisions will also be supplied by light artillery that can be lifted by helicopter. In about 2 days the flight will reach the Liechtenstein city of Malbon. There they will cripple the Liebermonk forces and establish the Panthean forward base of operations. They will also be tasked with training Revolutionary forces that are fighting for their future within Liebermonk

This morning, Pantheans tuned into their TV to watch a glorious speech by our president for life. As he talk about his plans for retaking Pantheans rightful land. He also stated that he will not let Russian and European land fall into the hands of foreign nations who wish only to exploit and enslave people. The revolutionary leader tells his people that this new year will be the rise of the workers paradise and the end of slavery.

Clearly the government of Liebermonk is a threat to the Pantheans. An alliance with North Germania or Norway with Liebermonk would stall Pantheans efforts to reinsert itself in Europe. Also at stake is Panthean survival itself. The situation with Norway over the disputed Bouvet Island set the Panthean government into a panic. What we saw is a world that was increably hostile to peaceful Pantheaa. With the taking of Liechtenstein, the panthean government will once again ensure our survival. A capture of the Liechtenstein may also jump start talks to return Bouvet Island to Norway as Panthean will make up for its lost land.

The Panthean government charges the corrupt Liebermonk with neglect and a general failure to offer their workers a better future. This is a non imperialist revolution that will see the workers of Liebermonk triumph over their masters.
N Germania
01-01-2006, 12:03
Berlin, Germany...

Der Führer had received news of the recent Pantheaan plan to invade Lichtenstein. An airdrop into the country? Was the Pantheaan President mad? An airborne invasion into Lichtenstein would require all aircraft to pass through Reich airspace. The Pantheaans had not even requested to use this airspace so they were damned sure not to get through now. The Reichskanzler was now meeting with the heads of all military departments to discuss a strategy.

[Translated from German]

Reichskanzler Kübler: "Herr Koller, immediately activate the 7th, 8th, and 11th Luftwaffe Divisions in Ukraine; the 1st Luftwaffe Division in Munich; the 19th Luftwaffe Division in Belarus; the 13th Luftwaffe Division in Danzig; and the 33rd Luftwaffe Division in Marseilles. If they so much as move one plane into our airspace without permission, shoot it down.

Herr Goettel, activate 12th Waffen-OS-Bataillon in Badden-Württemberg.

Herr Guderian, activate the 117th Panzer-Kompanie in Badden-Württemberg.

Herr Rundstedt, activate the 9th Alpen Battallion in the Swabian Alps and move them closer to Lichtenstein. In Central Ukraine, I want the 12th Army moved closer to the Pantheaan Border. Keep the 12th Army 30 kilometers West of the border. Support them with Army Group B (half the army) of the 7th Army in Slovakia. Keep the 9th Army where it is in Belarus, but move Army Group A of the 7th Army to reinforce them as well. Let's keep the 9th Army where it is. We do not want to provoke the Russians.

Move the 6th Army from Hungary to Central Ukraine and move the 3rd Army from Poland to Southcentral Belarus.

Herr Koller, send the 2nd and 4th Fallschirmjäger Divisions to accompany the 12th Army. Send the 7th Fallschirmjäger Division to the 9th Army.

Herr Goettel, send the 10th Waffen-OS Mechanized Infantry Division to support the 12th Army. Send the 41st Waffen-OS Division to support the 9th Army.

Herr Guderian, send the 14th Panzer Division to support the 12th Army. Send the 22nd Panzer Division to support the 9th Army.

Activate all cruise missile sites in Ukraine in Belarus."

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- Encryption Level 9 -
Message To: Pantheaan High Command
Message From: Reichskanzler Kübler

"We will not allow hostile Pantheaan Troops, or any Pantheaan Troops for that matter, into Reich airspace. Lichtenstein, while it is an independent territory controlled by Liebermonk, is part of Germany, thus part of the Reich. Moreso, Germany is the Heart of the Reich.

"You have not asked permission to enter Reich airspace, and you will not be allowed in. Your actions of hostility speak words of imperialism to the peaceful country of Liebermonk. Should you attempt to send any planes into our airspace, they will be immediately shot down and seen as an act of war against the Reich. Should you attempt to invade the Reich, you will find several Armies awaiting your arrival."

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- Encryption Level 2 -
Message To: Liebermonk High Command
Message From: Reichskanzler Kübler

"The nation of Pantheaa has announced its intentions to invade your peaceful country. As Lichtenstein is a part of Germany and the Reich has always seen Liebermonk as a friend, even though neutral, we will by no means allow this to occur. Rest assured, the Reich will prevent any Pantheaan Army from reaching your borders."

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- Encryption Level 9 -
Message To: Russian High Command
Message From: Reichskanzler Kübler

"As I am sure your satellites have picked up, we are moving more armies towards the East. However, do not be concerned as they are merely in position to protect the Reich from possible Pantheaan aggression.

"I assure you, they are not in a position to attack Russia, nor do I intend for them to. Do not be alarmed, we retain our neutral stance towards your country and do not wish to change it to an aggressive stance."
The Lightning Star
01-01-2006, 13:30
Official Statement by the Carthaginian Government

We whole-heartedly condemn the invasion of Liebermonk, and we shall declare an embargo on all Pantheaan goods. Also, although we know North Germania or any other members of the October Alliance do not need assistance, we would be willing to offer some to free the peoples of Liebermonk.
Hirgizstan
01-01-2006, 16:09
Naturally the Fuhrer of the Hirgizstanian Commonwealth was aware of recent Pantheaan plans to attack a neutral nation on the borders of the German Reich. A number of actions were being carried out almost seconds after the information had come through.

In Volgograd Oblast hundreds of fighters were being put on high alert to move in and help guard Reich Sovereign airspace and assisst the Reich in any movements against the Pantheaan forces.

In the South of the province the 8th Armoured Airborne Division was preparing to move forward elements at a moments notice.


ENCRYPTED COMMUNICATION

COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN

I AIRBORNE CORPS, VOLGOGRAD OBLAST

TO: Reichskanzler Kübler
FROM: General A. McClaren, 1st Airborne Division (I CORPS)

Reichskanzler, naturally we have heard of the recent worrying developments concerning the neutral nation of Liebermonk and the Reich's concerns with Pantheaan aggression toward them. The COH wishes to send the 1st Airborne Division to assisst a Reich Formation in helping to ensure peace in Europe. The choice is yours.

I have also been authorised to tell you we have numerous air formations ready to assisst Reich forces should the need arise.

General Anthony McClaren

COH


OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION [WORLDWIDE]

COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN

DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS

PRAIA, HCCV

The Commonwealth of Hirgizstan hereby publicly condemns these acts of aggression by the Pantheaan Government and will immediately support The Lightning Star in laying down an embargo on all Pantheaan goods and services.

Furthermore the COH will support the Reich in Europe by all means at our disposal.

At the moment we do not wish to see this escalate into anything more than a small political incident and we implore the Pantheaan Government to reconsider its actions.

The COH would also like to call upon the wider international community to condemn the actions of the Pantheaan Government and join in a worldwide embargo against them until they have reversed their actions.

The TOA wishes no ill toward the VCO in this situation and asks that they consider condemning the actions of Pantheaa.

COH
Pushka
01-01-2006, 17:24
OOC: NG, Hirgy don't forget to post in the NAP thread

Message To:Reichskanzler Kübler
Message From: Russian High Command

We deem your actions as reasonable. Russian Federation will keep a neutral stance in this incident, we however can not speak for the whole VCO, but i am sure that there will be no reason for them to support Pantheaa.
Hirgizstan
01-01-2006, 17:32
OOC: Did we not like break for lunch in the NAP thread? I was waiting for Igor to restart the proceedings.
Pushka
01-01-2006, 17:41
OOC: just did
Huahin
01-01-2006, 17:54
OOC - Where do you draw the line between airspace, and space, I mean at what altitude.
Azimeth
01-01-2006, 18:21
Azimeth understands the expansion of Pantheaa into western Europe and is contempt with its invasion, but a direct violation of another country's airspace is beyond all honor. Quickly, Emperor Komech began to wire a telegram to the Russian nation.

"It is with my greatest sense of duty that I must inform you to hold all forces travelling westward in another nation's airspace before further conflict can be drawn from your army's travelling. Please note that although Azimeth is neutral, it will not be afraid to embargo all goods into and from your nation."

Signed,
Emperor Jacob Komech II, Imperial Republic of Azimeth and All Colonies Within
Hirgizstan
01-01-2006, 19:58
OOC: Azimeth, you sure you got the right thread? This is Earth II only. If I'm mistaken, and you are a member of E2, then my apologies, but I can't see your name anywhere.

Huahin- I think space is above 80,000 Ft or something around there. But you have to remember the stratosphere.
Riptide Monzarc
01-01-2006, 20:07
OOC: Azimeth, you sure you got the right thread? This is Earth II only. If I'm mistaken, and you are a member of E2, then my apologies, but I can't see your name anywhere.

Huahin- I think space is above 80,000 Ft or something around there. But you have to remember the stratosphere.

OOC: Psykotica gave him Tasmania as a base for operations.
Hirgizstan
01-01-2006, 20:07
OOC: Yeap, I know now, just finished reading it on E2.
Cotland
01-01-2006, 20:21
[To Pantheaa]
[From Norway]
[Subject Imperialistic aggression towards TOA]
[Encryption level RØD]
[Begin message]

"The Kingdom looks upon the Panthean agression towards the Fourth Reich and Liebermonk with dismay, and wish to inform the Panthean government that plans to continue its agression, which is clearly motivated by imperialism, towards the October Alliance, will result in the Kingdom perceving the agression as a decleration of war towards not only the Fourth Reich, but also the whole of the October Alliance in accordance with the October Alliance charter, and thus punitive actions will be taken against Pantheaa."

[End message]
Pantheaa
01-01-2006, 23:47
ooc- wtf? How I am ever going to expand in this game

Hmmm but shouldn't these nations as well codemed Norway's attempted invasion of Panthean held Bouvet Island? Aren't I doing the same thing that Norweigan fighters attempted to do when they entered close to Bouvet Island. The treachery and lying of the alliances have once again been exposed. How can members of the VCO trust the TOA? How can the TOA trust VCO. When both alliances are neck deep in trickery. How Is my invasion of Liechtenstien any different then the Bouvet Island attempted invasion

To:Reichskanzler Kübler
From: Panthean high command

We mean no harm on the Reich. And wish them not to get involved in this matter. We would even allow a North Germania escort to Liebermonk. Don't forget that it wasn't until after we lost Slovakia that we adopted a warhawkish foreign policy. Your responsible for this war as much as we are.
We pray that the Reich reconsider thier intentions

To: Hirgizstan and Russian Federation
From: Panthean Dep artment of Foreign affairs

We are most sadden by our fellow brothers decisions. As Russians we are blood and as Russians we must support each other till our dying days. How can you trust the Europeans, the ones that ravaged, invaded our homelands for so many years. How can you trust the Polish with their long grudge against Russians? How can you trust a region of the world that brought us tidings of death curtsey of Napoleon Bonaparte? How can you trust nations that see Russians as their inferiors.

To: The kingdom of Norway
From: Panthean Department of Foreign affairs

We are willing to give the kingdom of Norway; Bouvet Island. If our invasion of Liechtenstien is succusful. Because with the capture of Liechtenstein we will make up for the lost land. This is a one in a life time opprunity for the Norweigans to rebuild their kingdom

To: All other nations

Embargos don't phase at all as we are anti free trade in the first place
Layarteb
01-01-2006, 23:47
Official Response

The Empire finds it amusing and ironic that the Pantheaan government, which frequently condemns acts of imperialism and claims to stand for all that imperialism doesn't has gone on to commit a blatant act of imperialism. We find their hypocrisy to be problematic. Should Pantheaan forces attack any member of the October Alliance it would be our duty to respond with the utmost force, especially if these actions were to come against the Reich or Hirgizstan.

The Empire does not accept the reasoning presented as the Norwegians have yet to violate any laws or invade Bouvet Island. Their presence may be of worry but certainly, at this moment, it is more of a passive nature than aggressive.

The Empire
Layarteb
01-01-2006, 23:48
ooc- wtf? How I am ever going to expand in this game

OOC: Earth II is nothing more than Balance of Power. If you know about BOP and how to work it to your advantage you can easily expand.
Pushka
02-01-2006, 00:05
ooc- wtf? How I am ever going to expand in this game

Hmmm but shouldn't these nations as well codemed Norway's attempted invasion of Panthean held Bouvet Island? Aren't I doing the same thing that Norweigan fighters attempted to do when they entered close to Bouvet Island. The treachery and lying of the alliances have once again been exposed. How can members of the VCO trust the TOA? How can the TOA trust VCO. When both alliances are neck deep in trickery. How Is my invasion of Liechtenstien any different then the Bouvet Island attempted invasion

OOC: I was gonna condemn Cot then he actually invaded you, but okay.
Pantheaa
02-01-2006, 00:12
The Confederation will stand down under several conditions

1) North Germania must stand down against The Wick. Any attack on the the wick should be condemed. An attack on a peaceful nation such as the wick would be like attacking libermonk. Any invasion of the wick must be met with a swift defense in favor of the wick

2) All ships except Norway must withdrawl from Bouvet Island. Only Norway as a good reason to be there as they are tested military stuff. Panthean fleets will not engage Norway we promise that

3) The TOA and VCO must both sign peaceful treaties with our nation.

Condition 1 must be met. I will renegiotate condition 2 and 3
Layarteb
02-01-2006, 00:14
Official Response

The Empire itself has no hostile intentions against The Wick nor Pantheaa unless either of them go offensively against a member of the Alliance. The Empire has no ships in Bouvet Island, at the moment, although we were planning on sending some cruisers. We personally see no need for a treaty with Pantheaa for either the TOA or VCO as they are a complete third party and not subject to any dealings between our two alliances.
Pantheaa
02-01-2006, 00:18
opps 4th condition i needed to add

4) These nations must bind by their words. Any future attack on Libermonk shall be condemed. This includes all nations and not just Pantheaa. Any future attack on Libermonk will ensure a swift defense in favor of Libermonk
Layarteb
02-01-2006, 00:21
The Empire is confused. The Pantheaan government threatens to wage war with Liebermonk and now demands that all nations, even those who never once laid their eyes upon Liebermonk, bind their words to never attack them. We find this condition completely and utterly baseless, especially coming from a nation who has pledged to wage war upon them.
Cotland
02-01-2006, 00:25
Official response

Due to earlier Panthean outbursts, which at times were very threatening, the Kingdom has no intention to sign any non-agression pacts, not now nor in the immediate future. As for the demand that the Fourth Reich stands down any plans to invade the Wick, we see no reason for that demand. There is no evidence to support the theory that the Fourth Reich intends to invade the Wick. Therefore we find the Panthean demands to be groundless. Further more, we are amused at the hypocracy of the Panthean government. First you plan to invade, then you demand that no one else invades? A free piece of advice from one government to another. Make logical demands in the future. Demands like this only serve to make a fool out of your government and your country. Now, as mentioned earlier, if Panthean agression continues, the Kingdom will consider it a decleration of war on the October Alliance and act accordingly.
Pantheaa
02-01-2006, 00:26
If we can not wage war in Libermonk, then no nation can wage war in Liechtenstien. That is the agreement. Because we know, and the rest of the workers of the world know that the alliances are plotting a conspiracy against Libermonk to divide his nation at any moment. The reason why my war there is being denounced is because North Germania is saving it for one of his allies or himself.

As we have always stated; we are a anti imperalist nation. We protect nations from imperalism through invasion or agreements

Department of Foreign Affairs
People's Confederation of Pantheaa
Layarteb
02-01-2006, 00:27
Liebermonk remains an allie of the October Alliance and has been treated as such. Your claims for a communist revolution or the demands of the Reich are completely baseless. The Empire will sign no accord with Pantheaa.
Hirgizstan
02-01-2006, 00:29
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION [To Pantheaa]

COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN

DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS

PRAIA, HCCV


How dare you try and instill some sort of brotherhood between our nation and yours. We are a nation of honor, a nation of patriots, not one of lazy workers who decide to invade NEUTRAL nations for no reasons, and then seek to pour scorn on imperialism, when you commit it yourself. Your bent communist ways are both disgusting and arhaic. How dare you insinuate that citizens of the Commonwealth share any sort of 'camraderie' with Pantheaans.

You also pour scorn on the world Alliance system, yet you are not a member of either, and no doubt would be barred from joining either one. The Alliances keep the peace, and if you do not appreciate this then you can file a complaint.

Furthermore our ships will form a holding pattern no more than 100 Miles from the stated position of the Norwegian Fleet around Bouvet Island. The TOA and VCO, furthermore, have no interest in signing any alliance with you.
And just like the EOL we find your fourth condition risible in relation to your former actions.

As for the situation in the Wick, it seems only Pantheaa has a problem with it, and that, as we see it, is no ground for any action against what has already been done in the Wick, which is entirely legitimate.

Your accusations that the Alliances have any interest in Liebermonk are, again, risible. We have no intention of brutally invading a NEUTRAL nation and are only concerned about it now because any invasion of Liebermonk poses a threat to Reich sovereignty.

As you can see, you are in no position to dictate conditions based on what has been done and to accuse the alliances and spout baseless and feckless drivel about workers is pointless.

COH
Pantheaa
02-01-2006, 00:34
We have strong evidence from our intelligence that does say that he is invading or supporting an invasion of the wick

Play transmission...... (occ-from earthII revital)

However, waging war on The WIck is his decision. If he does, he will receive my support
-- Kübler

Regardless if any threats were made to The Wick or not. Any invasion of the Wick must be condemned!!!

Liechtenstein is rightfully Panthean land. We both of are Russian and European decent. Therefore both regions of the world are ripe for the picking. If we can not win or homeland back then we will make every effort to safe guard it till we can invade.
Layarteb
02-01-2006, 00:41
The Empire wishes to know how any support for an invasion of The Wick justifies your actions and demands on Liebermonk?
Hirgizstan
02-01-2006, 00:43
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION [To Pantheaa]

COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN

DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS

PRAIA, HCCV



Yet more hypocrisy!

You claim, a while ago, to be 'Russian':



Russians we are blood and as Russians we must support each other till our dying days. How can you trust the Europeans...

Now you claim to be of both Russian and European descent, yet some time ago you were denouncing them as untrustworthy, and accusing them of betrayal.

This hypocrisy, we see, is typical of communist nations. It is ingrained in the very ideology you purport. This type of idiocy, from this nation, is dangerous to the planet as a whole.

You have also failed to realized that it is the Lithuanian Reich that plans to invade the Wick, not the Fourth Reich. Just because you disagree with it does not mean everyone condemns it.

Once again we will say this. The Alliances keep the peace, world peace. Your supposed invasion of Liebermonk was threatening to world peace, thus it drew worldwide condemnation. The invasion of the Wick promises to enhance world peace, and thus has not drawn criticism.

We would also like to add that the furtherance of communism in the world is the last thing we need, and the Commonwealth, sees the stopping of this invasion as a duty to the people of Liebermonk, who wish only to be free and neutral, not tied to the communist post and starved to death like a dog.

COH
Pantheaa
02-01-2006, 00:47
It all boils down to HYPOCRISY which is a disease that inflicts many world leaders. An invasion of The wick would be LIKE ME INVADING LIBERMONK!!
They are both peaceful nations who mean the world no harm. They both are small and easy to bully.

We have see world HYPOCRISY during the crisis in Israel when Norway and Elephantum denied smaller nations an opportunity to expand on the basis that they were "protecting the holy land"......

a few weeks later the holy land was divided and craved up like a pizza to those very same protectors. Israel is now a divided country due to the greed of the nations that safeguard it......HYPOCRISY
Hirgizstan
02-01-2006, 00:50
OOC: Stop going off on a tangent will you, man its annoying. This is about Liebermonk, nothing else. And stop saying hypocrisy is on us, seriously LOOK at what YOU have said, and you'll see you contradict yourself several times.
Layarteb
02-01-2006, 00:54
In accordance to the logic set by the Pantheaan government, two wrongs make a right. With this logic it would be correct for the VCO to wage total and full war against TOA should I invade the Cayman Islands.
Pantheaa
02-01-2006, 00:54
ha!! Hirgizstan you know nothing of Panthean history. Panthean first started out as a European nation (a long time ago). Our first territory was Slovakia.

However the fourth reich in all its wisdom decided to take Slovakia with force. This was back when Panthean was ruled by pacfist and we were very peaceful and we were even members of the Roman Confederacy as well was the fourth Reich.

The Roman Confederacy didn't jump to my aid when Reich annouced his intentions to invade Slovakia. Which is further proof that their was a conspiracy against me from the Roman Confederacy. And it exposed the truth about alliances...they are a tool for larger nations to use expand by using their power within the alliance

The 4th Reich eventually said that i could move to Orenburg Oblast if i didn't agree i would be invaded. Blackmail!!

So i eventally agreed and the Europeans in Panthean became refugees in Orenburg. We mixed with the Russians already there and begain an uneasy ethnic friendship between Russians and Europeans.

Therefore both regions are that of Pantheaa

You don't see in Africa even though hundreds of territories have been up for grab there!!!!!
Hirgizstan
02-01-2006, 00:59
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION [To Pantheaa]

COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN

DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS

PRAIA, HCCV

Now you are claiming that both regions, i.e. Russia and Europe, belong to you?

So your telling us, the Fourth Reich,Layarteb, Norway the Russian Federation, and a host of other nations that they are on your land?

We will make this clear. If the VCO and the TOA suddenly decide to expand into Russia then it is your nation that would suffer our expansion. And unless you want this to happen I suggest you cool off thinking how close you might have come to such an eventuality by threatening Liebermonk.

You will not threaten the rest of the world as a bully, and a poor one at that. The Alliances, as I say once again, safeguard the world from bully's like the Pantheaans, and you may stomp your feet all you want, but you won't change anything and your constant contradictions are making you out to be more of a pariah in world affairs, as if that was at all possible.

COH
Pantheaa
02-01-2006, 01:03
In accordance to the logic set by the Pantheaan government, two wrongs make a right. With this logic it would be correct for the VCO to wage total and full war against TOA should I invade the Cayman Islands.


Correct the wrong was done to me when Norway announced his intention to invade Bouvet Island. If im going to lose land then someone else well also lose land. Im only using the same justification that Norway was going to use when thinking about invading Bouvet Island. And the fact that no one supports me shows the hypocrisy of these so called "RIVAL ALLIANCES" :rolleyes:
Layarteb
02-01-2006, 01:05
Correct the wrong was done to me when Norway announced his intention to invade Bouvet Island. If im going to lose land then someone else well also lose land. Im only using the same justification that Norway was going to use when thinking about invading Bouvet Island. And the fact that no one supports me shows the hypocrisy of these so called "RIVAL ALLIANCES" :rolleyes:

Why would Pantheaa seek to wage war on a neutral, third-party rather than just on those who threaten it on them. This is precisely why we refuse to supporty any dealings of the Pantheaan government. If I were to be attacked by Pantheaa I would not invade Russia to make up for it but rather seek war with Pantheaa, the original aggressor.
Pantheaa
02-01-2006, 01:11
Neutral???? But you just said a couple of post ago that Liebermonk was an ally of the TOA? I can't wage war against the orignal oppressor Layberteb, because then i will have teh 300000000000000000000000 something nations send 54r9999999999999999999999 troops to stop me.

So the nation of Panthean which is the victim of consent bullying will take his anger out on the smaller nations
Pantheaa
02-01-2006, 01:15
You will not threaten the rest of the world as a bully, and a poor one at that. The Alliances, as I say once again, safeguard the world from bully's like the Pantheaans, and you may stomp your feet all you want, but you won't change anything and your constant contradictions are making you out to be more of a pariah in world affairs, as if that was at all possible.


Seems like your the bully. Im trying to advertise a cease fire and you threaten me. It was me that was threaten by Norway at Bouvet so whose side were you in that incident?
Layarteb
02-01-2006, 01:19
Neutral???? But you just said a couple of post ago that Liebermonk was an ally of the TOA? I can't wage war against the orignal oppressor Layberteb, because then i will have teh 300000000000000000000000 something nations send 54r9999999999999999999999 troops to stop me.

So the nation of Panthean which is the victim of consent bullying will take his anger out on the smaller nations

There are many allies of TOA that are not part of either the TOA or VCO, which would make them neutral. The nation of Pantheaa has not been the object of bullying and if they felt they have been, why not pick on the bullies. What the nation of Pantheaa is doing is what it claims has been done to it, which makes little sense and no reason.
Hirgizstan
02-01-2006, 01:21
OOC: Pantheaa, keep up with things, the VCO and TOA have signed a Non-Aggression Pact, there are only Alliances, not rival alliances. Like I said in IC, we keep the peace.
Pantheaa
02-01-2006, 01:28
OOC: Pantheaa, keep up with things, the VCO and TOA have signed a Non-Aggression Pact, there are only Alliances, not rival alliances. Like I said in IC, we keep the peace.

OOC-So what’s the point of having two different alliances if not for a rivalry. I was told in EarthII rivtal that they were rival alliances. Your either rivals or not rivals theirs no in between. For the safety of the world one of those alliances should be dissolved.

And if your not rivals then what’s the point of having two different alliances. That's like having the Mets and the Yankees be in the same league.
Layarteb
02-01-2006, 01:30
OOC-So what’s the point of having two different alliances if not for a rivalry. I was told in EarthII rivtal that they were rival alliances. Your either rivals or not rivals theirs no in between. For the safety of the world one of those alliances should be dissolved.

And if your not rivals then what’s the point of having two different alliances. That's like having the Mets and the Yankees be in the same league.

We signed an NAP. Technically we're not rival, at the moment.
Hirgizstan
02-01-2006, 01:34
OOC: The Alliances are not your concern, and if you can't understand the concept of peace between the alliances, and the benefits that could have, then why are you even playing an intensely political game?
Pantheaa
02-01-2006, 01:34
We signed an NAP. Technically we're not rival, at the moment.


In other words "don't attack us so we can expand without facing a fair fight" we rather just invade smaller nations instead of put up with the TOA or VCO
Layarteb
02-01-2006, 01:36
In other words "don't attack us so we can expand without facing a fair fight" we rather just invade smaller nations instead of put up with the TOA or VCO

OOC: No. We've realized that it's mutually assured destruction if either of us attack each other.
Hirgizstan
02-01-2006, 01:37
OOC: If the TOA and the VCO are always at each others throats that means the consequences could be WW3 or worse, MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction). Thus it is in OUR interests, as MEMBERS of the Alliances to ensure this doesn't happen. And if that means your under threat, then tough, and if you invade nations like Liebermonk that threaten the sovereignty of an Alliance member then you are in the wrong, in our eyes, which is what matters. If you were to threaten a VCO member with a similar move we would be just as quick to condemn you. Politics is not fair, war is not fair, get over it.
[NS]Kreynoria
02-01-2006, 01:39
Official Statement by Kreynoria Government

We condemn the hypocritical and imperialistic aggression of Pantheaa. We announce a complete embargo of all Pantheaan goods until this imperialistic bully stands down.
N Germania
02-01-2006, 01:43
OOC: If I may, what I said about invading The WIck was OOC (Kübler is also my last name), therefore holds absolutely zero ground in an IC argument. I'm not looking to conquer people, why do you think I just gave two pieces of land away? If you look at the land/population matrix, you'll see that I'm almost maxed-out anyway, so invading any territory of significant size is out of the question. Lichtenstein does not qualify as a territory of significant size.

I would've said nothing about you invading a different foreign nation, Pantheaa, but the one you picked was a bad choice for the following reasons:

1) Lichtenstein (IRL) is actually inside of territorial Germany (around Tübingen; my land in E2).

2) Liebermonk, like Lichtenstein, is a completely peaceful nation (I wonder if he even has a military to defend himself with), even moreso than WIck. Not that that is the point. The point is that he relies on the sanity and rationale of the world (not a bad stance I might add) to protect himself from foreign aggression. In this case, he's got a lot of protection. Think of him as a hermit crab who never leaves his shell. He's got Reich land surrounding him to serve as a buffer.

3) You never asked to enter my airspace, much less move an entire army through my land to invade a small, peaceful person.

4) No. He helps maintain the (small) variety of people in Europe.

Furthermore, this is making me lose braincells. Cut it out or we'll blow you off the planet and give your land to Liebermonk.
Pantheaa
02-01-2006, 01:45
We condemn the hypocritical and imperialistic aggression of Pantheaa

Yeah im really invading my own country.....

OOC: No. We've realized that it's mutually assured destruction if either of us attack each other.

Ok to make clear then, So the mutal assurance means that if a TOA nation like Norway invades Panthean territory of Bouvet....VCO has to rush to Norways aid. In other words lets help Norway expand so that we can assure each other of our safety. That makes perfect sense
Layarteb
02-01-2006, 01:56
Yeah im really invading my own country.....



Ok to make clear then, So the mutal assurance means that if a TOA nation like Norway invades Panthean territory of Bouvet....VCO has to rush to Norways aid. In other words lets help Norway expand so that we can assure each other of our safety. That makes perfect sense

No we have a Non-Aggression Pact, not a collective security arrangement. VCO isn't going to be rushing to our aide nor are we, anytime soon.
Pushka
02-01-2006, 04:37
Ok to make clear then, So the mutal assurance means that if a TOA nation like Norway invades Panthean territory of Bouvet....VCO has to rush to Norways aid. In other words lets help Norway expand so that we can assure each other of our safety. That makes perfect sense

Why would i rush to Norway's aid? If you haven't realised it yet i am not afraid of TOA.
Bjornoya
02-01-2006, 05:12
Esthar: Bjornoyan Capitol (http://0101.netclime.net/1_5/D/V/2/wilhelmtheme.mid)

Visara Corporation CEO Wilhelm Kaufmann lounged leisurely in his office chair. He gazed out his window at the Bjornoyan capitol of Esthar. Below him lay another copy of the Bjornoyan Times, once again bloated with good news for himself, his company, and his nation. In a childish, trouble-making move the nation of Pantheaa was attempting to invade the distant nation of Liebermonk. Wilhelm chuckled to himself at the news. No matter, the oil crisis was solved. With so many nations setting embargoes against the incoherent nation their pitiful ploy to undermine oil prices had failed. As a nation that did not practice free-trade, simple tariffs against Panteaan oil-imports alone would ruin their tactic. But Wilhelm wanted to twist the dagger a bit. He was very proud of his handling of the last attempt to undermine oil-prices, and wanted the rest of the world to know if they didn't he meant business.

Serving as right-hand of state and chief advisor to the Patriarch regarding economical intrests the clever CEO convinced the Patriarch an embargo would represent the best intrests of Bjornoya. A brief statement was issued by the patriarch within days of the Pantheaan move, re-iterating what had already been said and denouncing the aggressive and irrational behavior of the Pantheaan government. As a result no goods would be exported to Pantheaa from Bjornoya, and no goods would be allowed to be imported from Pantheaa to Bjornoya.
The Lightning Star
02-01-2006, 07:00
Offical Statement by the Carthaginian Government

It has come to our attention that certain nations are planning the destruction of their smaller nations. Although we have tried to better relations with those nations, we see now that we cannot appease those who wish to conquer the world. Therefore, we issue an ultimatum; all military activities against Liebermonk and any other small european countries cease at once, or you shall face consequences. Although we may be simple businessmen, we still have morals, and this abuse of the weak must stop.

OOC: I tried to keep it down, but my instinct to protect the wee people keeps getting in the way.
Pantheaa
02-01-2006, 11:45
OOC- oh fine then

International news service

The message came in just as Panthean transport planes were set to take off. “All Panthean forces must stand down till further notice.” War with Liebermonk as been avoided due to swift action of Pantheans
parliament.


Divisions in the Revolutionary Communist Party

http://zdnet.terra.cl/latin/graphics/gs/gen/ts/bestvillains/4_kane2.jpg President for life Vassili Zeitsev in his speech

The call to end all actions came from a 5:00 AM phone call made to the Kursk Air Force. According to sources a talk between General Boris Strog and Alexander Ramsey followed. The conversation lasted only about 5 minutes. When the phone call was over, General Boris Strog ordered the stand down.

Much of the international community have no idea of the name Alexander Ramsey. But those inside Panthean government do. Alexander is the highest member of the Parliament. Second to only the president himself. He is the head voice of the legislative branch and leading member of the Communist Party.

When news of a possible Panthean invasion reached his ears he called an emergency parliament meeting. Only about 60% of the parliament came as it was 3 in the morning. But the 60% was a enough members to launch a vote. After careful debates for and against the Panthean war. A vote took place; In a vote of 62-11, the parliament over ruled President Vassili Zeitsev’s decision to go to war with Liebermonk. The party also states that the decision was not made out of fear of any embargos or threats from foreign nations. The official reason was listed as “failed communication between executive and legislative branch.” The party offers no apologies.

News reached President Vassili and the reaction was anything but peachy. The 54 year old was grief striking by the apparent betrayal of his own communist party, a party that he was a member of since age 16. He went to the state run TV and announced that he was never informed of a government meeting. And that the legislative branch acted out of their powers saying that “the constitution never granted them the power of the sword.” He went on to say that he will fire his entire legislative branch during the upcoming question time at parliament. When the President will be in the same room with those who denounced his war. Though the President in the past as threaten to fire his lawmakers and has never acted on it.

The Progressive Democrat party who have long been critics of the Communist party; issued a quick statement on their foreign run website. The party that preaches a return to capitalism and restored trust in alliances, saw this as an opportunity to further their agenda. According to the PD party, the government back down because of international pressure. The party went on to write against the Communist run parliament saying that the government has failed to promise the Panthean people a “workers paradise” and a country opposed to imperialism. Pantheaas first President.... the Slovakian born Sascha Yerrick, was a member of the Progressive Democrats so the party still has a lot of trust with the people despite the low election results from the last legislative election. Weather this action will lead Panthean back down the road to Capitalism remains to be see. The party plans a protest tomorrow in Workers square carrying murals of the great Sascha Yerrick along with Roman Confederacy and party flags. Kursk city police will most likely break up the protest with swinging batons and rubber bullets
The Lightning Star
02-01-2006, 13:53
OOC: Just a reminder, Pantheaa, you can obtain land peacefully. You think I conquer huge swaths of planet just by conquest? Hells no! I had to make alot of sacrifices, but I did it.
Huahin
02-01-2006, 13:59
OOC - Lichtenstein is between Switzerland and Austria, not inside Germany and NG mentioned.
Southeastasia
02-01-2006, 14:40
OOC: Sorry to barge in like this, but Wingarde, TG!
Cotland
02-01-2006, 14:54
OOC - Lichtenstein is between Switzerland and Austria, not inside Germany and NG mentioned.
OOC What's the diff? It's still deep inside NGs territory and what he considers Germany...
Layarteb
02-01-2006, 22:54
The Empire hereby proposes an indefinite and total embargo on Pantheaa until the current administration is replaced with a more reasonable and less problematic one.
Hirgizstan
02-01-2006, 23:26
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION [WORLDWIDE]

COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN

DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS

HIRGIZSTAN CITY (formerly Praia), HCCV



The COH firmly agrees with the proposal set out by the EOL. The current Pantheaan Administration seems volatile and problematic at best. Such an unbalanced and unchecked Government only provides a threat to international security.

We believe that an embargo, worldwide, would force the Pantheaan administration to change for the better, or the embargo would force the people of Pantheaa to exact change themselves.



COH
Layarteb
02-01-2006, 23:29
The Empire is not entirely convinced that this action of the Pantheaan government is an isolated incident and feel that we must prevent any further incidents that may arise in the future, especially against other nations completely neutral in these matters.