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ShadowNetNews:

The Cassiopeian Office of Colonization said to day that They have declared that The Cassiopeian Empire will start Colonies on ten Systems Close to TFU Space in the Milky Way. "We are still planning to put Cassiopeians in the Milky Way." said Mar'cani Ten'ga, "Even Though TFU Might not like it, he has to acepct that his "Powers Docture" is not going to work."

The Systems to be Colonized

The Minban System
The Doki System
The Banban System
The Vi System
The Caniania System
The Bilain System
The Runi System
The Tai System
The Fondor System
The Rung System

The Cassiopeian will start Colonies on these Systems soon.

The United states gives The Cassiopeia Galaxy, 24 hours to repeal its idiotic move, or we will forcibly stop there colonization, on the grounds that The Cassiopeia Galaxy is a war like, vile nation bent on nothing but destruction and empire, and poses a threat to this sector of space in the milky way

The United states gives The Cassiopeia Galaxy, 24 hours to repeal its idiotic move, or we will forcibly stop there colonization, on the grounds that The Cassiopeia Galaxy is a war like, vile nation bent on nothing but destruction and empire, and poses a threat to this sector of space in the milky way


From: the Grand Counsil of The Galactic Empire of The Cassiopeia Galaxy

We will not stop our Colonization Plans, you attack any of our Colonies and we will Conquer or Destroy all your worlds from one side of your Space to the other.

the state department points to these words as a sign of a primitive violent race, and we do maintain that if one world is colonized we will use force to clear you, we also point to the fact that the nation of The Cassiopeia Galaxy attempted to invade sol, some time back so this nation is more than a chaotic nuisance

OOC: You do realize, CG, that TFU here has nearly 5 billion citizens, a fleet larger than anything you could possibly muster for months yet, and is a veteran of many a war?

(OOC: Cassiopeia: Look, I'm sick and tired of being at war with you, and I'll be considering us at peace from now on. ICly, your characters may remember being at war, but there must be a mutual effort to prevent re-escalation.

Also - It would take a matter of years for any extragalactic fleet to arrive. As such, should there ever be a secession, they would have a *large* army waiting. Just so you know.

Don't take that last paragraph the wrong way, it's just that the colony would be outside of empire size limits, and hence be likely to rebel.

If there's a rebellion, if a fleet capable of repelling the imperial fleet can be built before the imperials arrive it cannot be controlled by the empire.)

"It is a shame that the Cassiopeians have decided to colonise the Milky Way in such an aggressive manner," said Mr. Denthris in a statement to the media in response to the news. "however, we will nonetheless attempt to establish them as peaceful and productive members of the Milky Way."

In a message to the Cassiopeians:
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We of the Hakurabi are dismayed at your aggressive colonisation of outlying Federal Union space, but are confident that this is without hostile intent.

In the interests of repairing relations and giving reparations for the destruction of your first homeworld, we are prepared to dispatch a fleet of construction ships and a large contingent of engineers to aid in the successful establishment of the colonies.

EDIT: (OOC: Ah, dammit. You posted while I was writing.

Oh yes - Empire-boosted population is not taken into account when calculating maximum fleet strength. Mind you - the colonies can and will rebel within a relatively short period of time. And the fact that TFU is right near them makes it worse, as TFU forces will be waiting alongside the rebel fleet.)

(OOC: Cassiopeia: Look, I'm sick and tired of being at war with you, and I'll be considering us at peace from now on. ICly, your characters may remember being at war, but there must be a mutual effort to prevent re-escalation.

Also - It would take a matter of years for any extragalactic fleet to arrive. As such, should there ever be a secession, they would have a *large* army waiting. Just so you know.

Don't take that last paragraph the wrong way, it's just that the colony would be outside of empire size limits, and hence be likely to rebel.

If there's a rebellion, if a fleet capable of repelling the imperial fleet can be built before the imperials arrive it cannot be controlled by the empire.)

"It is a shame that the Cassiopeians have decided to colonise the Milky Way in such an aggressive manner," said Mr. Denthris in a statement to the media in response to the news. "however, we will nonetheless attempt to establish them as peaceful and productive members of the Milky Way."

In a message to the Cassiopeians:
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EDIT: (OOC: Ah, dammit. You posted while I was writing.)


we ask The Hakurabi to Stay out of any War between Us and TFU, but welcome The help (and about time you are paying up.)

(OOC: Since it appears the colonies will be established anyway...)

"We are only protecting the interests of the people, and will be personally overseeing the defence of the colonies. In the event of war we will decommission any staryards, military bases and production facilities in the interests of safeguarding the welfare of the population.

If they are actively producing military hardware, they place themselves at risk of retribution from TFU forces, and we cannot allow this."

(OOC: Carbon copies of all messages sent and recieved during these events are automatically forwarded to the TFU. Remember that in event of war I'm ICly more likely to redeclare war against you than aid you in any way against TFU. After all, the Cassiopeians have a bad record of warmongering.)

In a wide-band information pulse projected in the general direction of The Cassiopeia Galaxy, the following transmission was contained:

The Cassiopeia Galaxy is hereby notified that any and all efforts to colonize TFU space, declare war on TFU or its allies, or any other threatening acts will be met with a full and complete military reaction on the part of the United Forge Worlds of Einhauser. You will receive no warning about an attack, and all worlds captured will be submitted to Exterminatus.

OOC: I pledge my 4th, 6th, 3rd, and 5th fleets to this engagement, along with 4 Sectors (7,680,000 troops), the E.N.S. Charon, and 8,200,000 Al’Coth.

the state department requests that Hakurabi please refrain from supporting this violent and primitive race of beings, if they mange to get as foot old in the galaxy it will be the start of a annoyance on a grand scale, if the nation of Hakurabi intervenes militarily the united states will have no choice but to respond with force.

We do not seek a war with Hakurabi but if it’s a necessary step, then we will take it.

The Hakurabi would like it to be known that they are protecting only the assumed innocent populace, and any armed personnel will not be granted any sort of personnel. If the colony ship is armed, every effort will be made to extract the innocents who have agreed to embark on this ill-fated journey, but no other action will be taken.

Our reccomendation to avoid conflict is to relocate to less conflicting systems, and our preparations reflect as such.

Should Cassiopeian vessels open fire on Hakurabi Assets, war is to be redeclared.

We are fully prepared to support the Federal Union if they deem it necessary. We assure you that any military action will be only upon request of the Federal Union.

Indeed, we were only referring to application of heavy shielding devices and similar defences for the cities..

Statement from the Sevarisian Imperial Government.

Her Majesty's Government wishes to make it clear that any violation of the sovereign space of the TFU will be matched with the full arms of the Royal Sevarisian Armed Forces. Though we may be new to galactic affairs and have just come out of isolation, we will not tolerate blatant and utter imperialism. We do not wish to see the yoke of imperialism strike innocents.

At this time, HM Government is committing the 12th Sector Fleet and its associated Air Force and Army units to any possible attack against the Cassiopeian invasion.

-HRH Empress Yuna Sadovenau, Empress of the Sevarisians

-The Rt. Hon. Alexandre de Chastelain, Secretary of Foriegn Affairs.

We cannot punish those who do not take up arms against us, and we will attempt to extract all 'colonists' from their ships during the inevitable war. One cannot punish the people for the error of their leaders. Research has shown that their populace no longer controls the leadership.

the state department notes for the record that the nation of The Cassiopeia Galaxy has attempted to invade, attack and subvert the united states many, many times, and we do not trust them near our borders thus we will strike if they go forth

The Godulan High Command hereby expresses its intent to place multiple sensor stations near the systems listed by the Cassiopeian Colonization Authority.

As long as the colonization is conducted peacefully and no military buildup is detected, the Godulans will find this in accordance with established treaties. Otherwise, measures will be taken.

If Fedral forces attempt to make any strike against any Cassiopeian colonies or the populations thereof, the offending forces will be intercepted and destroyed with liberal amounts of malice, forethought, and ammunition.

Have a nice day, and enjoy snarling at each other. That had BETTER be the only escalation this issue sees.

The Godulan High Command hereby expresses its intent to place multiple sensor stations near the systems listed by the Cassiopeian Colonization Authority.

As long as the colonization is conducted peacefully and no military buildup is detected, the Godulans will find this in accordance with established treaties. Otherwise, measures will be taken.

If Fedral forces attempt to make any strike against any Cassiopeian colonies or the populations thereof, the offending forces will be intercepted and destroyed with liberal amounts of malice, forethought, and ammunition.

Have a nice day, and enjoy snarling at each other. That had BETTER be the only escalation this issue sees.



the united states will not back down if the Imperialist pigs in Godular wish to intervene they will be crushed, we do not wish a war with Godular but they should really mind there own business, we will not allow a nation who threatens the safety and security of the union to colonize out side its borders, you may put sensors stations if you wish, but if you do use force we will destroy them and your fleet.


Statement form the United states defense department:

A fleet of 3000 war ships and several thousand transports is being prepared to depart and stop opposition and colonization. The united states marines, and army are deploying over 2 million troops, and 500,000 marines.

An additional 1500 ships from the border worlds reserves will also be employed.

The Gaian High Command meanwhile (again with the Comm-Orbs bit...) kept track of all this, with some amusement. The kind that focused on the apparent Cassiopeian need to antagonize TFU rather needlessly.

If Cassiopeia needed new colonies, the Ascendancy knew of hundreds upon thousands of readily available ones in other portions of the Milky Way, not to mention the nearby globular clusters, to claim instead.

The Holy Council deliberated this soon after, as a way to defuse the situation. They hadn't transmitted anything just yet however. The hope was that blows would not be required to solve this anyway.

A single message was transmitted to Cassiopeian High Command. Free from any outside eavesdropping.

This is a needless risk. We can attempt to defend you, but this whole issue would be avoided if you would PLEASE refrain from antagonizing the Fedral government. You more than anybody should know how... 'touchy' they are.

And we are not willing to give our lives in your defense. Especially not for that wretched husk called the Milky Way. We are fully willing to provide you with colony worlds in other galaxies. If you want access to the milky way for whatever reason, use the bloody wormhole network!

Sheesh.

-Baron Aeraeon Skye, Primarch, Triad Consortium of Godular

The dusty cloisters of “The Block,” the administrative fortress on Ulysses prime, were never loud, but at the moment the soft clap of leather soled sandals on the black marble floors interrupted the peace. An acolyte dressed in a deep black robe was the cause of the disturbance. Mumbling under his breath, the man picked up his pace.

After another couple of yards, a heavy blast door, disguised as a fine piece of fresco carved into a mahogany panel, reared up into his view. Chanting the appropriate litany opened the panel, and the adept strode on. Now the hall had marble columns on the sides, between which the personal guards of the leader of the UFE could be seen standing like so many statues.

At the very end of the hall, on a raised dais, sat the man himself. Clothed in deep shadow, it was difficult to see him, but the acolyte knew he was there. “High Lord Commander,” bowed the man, “I bring you tidings from the eastern front. It would seem that the nation of Godular has dared to exert their… influence.” The last word was spat rather than said.

On the carved obsidian throne the commander stirred. “I see.” After a moments pause, the single, mighty hand was raised from the darkness to beckon a guard. The commander consulted with the soldier for a minute, before turning his baleful eye back onto the hunched-over infidel. “Leave me,” the man ordered.

Without a backward glance the acolyte straitened and walked out of the room.

OOC: Godular, I support your effort of turning aside TCG, but do take this time to warn you of the fell consequences of tampering with TFU. And me, for the manner. Actually, I’m spoiling for a fight, so never mind, hehe.

Mean while the fleets of war ships and transports left federal space and headed towards the designated systems, their engines rumbling up as they flew in to the void of space, several moments passed as the ships came out at there designated area.

…

Statement from the DOD: the fleet of ships you see entering the center system of the colonization effort, since there are no ships there yet we have officially declared this system under the claim of the union and the others under our claim and sphere of influence, this has now become our space , if you enter it you will be fired upon!

OOC: Dude, you mess with Godular, you are messing with the entire G.F.F.A..

OOC: Dude, you mess with Godular, you are messing with the entire G.F.F.A..

(ooc: if he fies first the big bad GFFA wont do shit ok so i suggest you take your peace keeping ass out of my thread :P lol)

(ooc: if he fies first the big bad GFFA wont do shit ok so i suggest you take your peace keeping ass out of my thread :P lol)

OOC: Note, the only reason Godular would fire the first shot is if you provoked him to it. The member nations are free to join in support of their ally under their own banners while they wait the results of the Alliance vote to see if they should come in under the Alliance's banner.

(ooc i was doing that jokeingly at any rate please take it out of this thread thats consider flamebait, if i offended you sorry i was jokeing)

((OC- And I wonder why I stay out of formal alliances for the most part. =^^= ))

--

The Gaians soon noted the sudden extension of territory by TFU in response to the Cassiopeian 'apparent' incursion.

"My my, they are making a message." Yurika noted, with several looking on in the Command Center Core of the Palace Tree.

"Or a mess." Akito commented.

Seto looked at Yurika. "It makes me wonder if they'll do this every time a foreign nation does something close to what Cassiopeians were attempting. They could gain territory fast."

Yurika commented back.. "My love mentioned it was also a mess." Akito waves a hand meekly. Seto shrugs. "It was a comment. Indeed it's a mess.

It just wonders that if this all is take to it's logical step of the extreme."

"It won't come to that." ..comes Aleaic's voice, walking in from the Council Chambers nearby. "I'm sending a diplomatic team to attempt to resolve the crisis."

Even Seto looks at this with an eye of the 'what?' apparent. "That's.... forward for us isn't it?"

Aleaic shrugs. "Probably, but then so is the extreme this will take if it goes any further. However I have given the proper team instructions to ascertain if the situation is too dangerous on arrival, to make a diplomatic attempt immediately. If it is, the team will return to U.M. Absorbed space and wait out the fighting. If not, they'll make a guesture to attempt to disarm all this fracus."

Seto presses her hands to her hips and leans forward at Aleaic. The other two, Belldandy watching btw.. "Nice of you to tell me in advance 'milord'. Why not tell me to do just that in the first place. And 'I' go and stop all this."

Aleaic just smirks. "I just did."

Seto is 'actually' caught with her mouth agape. The others fight from laughing too loud for a moment. (..and fail..)

Seto though recovers quickly. "Well, you 'finally' got back at me for all those years ago."

Aleaic just smiles, and about-faces and walks back to a couple of clapping wives looking on.

--

In three hours, Lady Seto departs on her unexpected mission to prevent a war between two nations. No less than twenty Hikari Treeships are deployed, and Fold Jump in short order to about six Parsecs away from the disputed zone.

((OC- Sorry, I put the wrong nation name in. I should probably leave this topic due to my own stupidity.))

OOC: Typical that it didn't come across as one.

In any event, moving in to actually stake claim to the systems is the better move. If TCG attempts to continue he's on his own as it'll be its own punishment for the most part.

And Gaian, what incursion? Me issuing intent to set up sensor posts to keep track of Cassiopeia's colonies and prevent any attacks on or by TFU? Keep in mind that's just our intent, we haven't done anything yet.

State department
if Godular attempts to build posts in our territory we will forcibly remove them, we request that the nation of Godular not do so.

Our statement only applies to Cassiopeian territory. We made no insinuation of establishing such installations in any other territory. Be advised that our intent is to watch THEM.

With TFU Takeing The Ten systems, The Grand Counsil soon Voted for War, the Mission: Retake the Ten Systems and kick TFU out of them. They soon Sent this Message.

The Fedral Union has Invaded Our Territory which we Call The Ten Systems. We have Declared war on TFU for this INVASION and will Fight to take them back

General Chimaera was soon heading for The Home Galaxy to Led the Campaign to retake The Ten Systems. On Tarkaan, The Morguki were getting ready for the War.

OOC: Oh, and TFU, the last time I checked this was TCG's thread and not yours.

IC: *Initiate Tight-Beam Transmission*

*Start Encryption*

To: Godular
From: SeaQuest

This message is just to inform you that if any hostilities over this matter between TFU and TCG that involve Godular, then you will have the support of the Imperial Nycarian Grand Navy of SeaQuest behind you.

*End Encryption*

*End Transmission*

OOC: Note on the encryption I used, its 10 layers thick and each layer is 10 digits long.

RESPONSE TO SEAQUESTIAN HIGH COMMAND

Our only concern was with protecting innocents. As none are actually involved at this point however, we could really care less who beats up who.
Your support is appreciated, however we suspect you need not concern yourself.

~Baron Aeraeon Skye, Primarch, Triad Consortium of Godular

(ooc i was doing that jokeingly at any rate please take it out of this thread thats consider flamebait, if i offended you sorry i was jokeing)

OOC: Read my edit of that post.

RESPONSE TO SEAQUESTIAN HIGH COMMAND

Our only concern was with protecting innocents. As none are actually involved at this point however, we could really care less who beats up who.
Your support is appreciated, however we suspect you need not concern yourself.

~Baron Aeraeon Skye, Primarch, Triad Consortium of Godular

To: Godular
From: SeaQuest

Acknowledged. We will still keep on eye on the conflict between TCG and TFU at any rate. If to do nothing more than to see what tactics both use so we can develop possible counters to them.

*End Encrypted Tight-Beam Transmission*

the united states has responded by also declaring a state of war, we have issued a statement that we will not destroy or attack civilian ships, unless they are carrying weapons or have combatants on board.

(OOC: Ya gotta tag that sorta thing. Remember that sarcasm and the like don't transfer well over the internet.)

Encoded Communique to Federal Union:
Well, it appears that the colonists are now out of the equation. It's safe to say, I believe, that all incoming ships will be combatants. As the Cassiopeians are fond of employing the services of various sith races, we are requesting permission to deploy Force Interdicting vessels to the affected zones.

General Communications:
As this situation has now escalated to war, we will provide neutral services within the affected zones. We will be deploying small fleets with various essentials - Construction Vessels, Hospital Ships, Supply Freighters. The areas will be thoroughly jammed and shielded to provide a safe environment.

There will be Hakurabi Military Starships in the areas as security as well.

The Hikari Fleet flotilla arrives a short time after TFU declares war. Seto learns this from nearby Outpost stations relaying the Comm-Orb signals. (Nearby as in closer to Sphere space and not TFU's...)

Seto sighs.. "I'll have to give one back to that nutbar one of these days.

Very well. Prepare to Fold to the Regional Capital in U.M. governed space. Now please. We don't want to get involved in any shooting. And send I.F.F. signals of our neutrality in all of this."

At that, the Gaians retreat and stay out of the way until the time is right.

(OOC: Ya gotta tag that sorta thing. Remember that sarcasm and the like don't transfer well over the internet.)

Encoded Communique to Federal Union:
Well, it appears that the colonists are now out of the equation. It's safe to say, I believe, that all incoming ships will be combatants. As the Cassiopeians are fond of employing the services of various sith races, we are requesting permission to deploy Force Interdicting vessels to the affected zones.

General Communications:
As this situation has now escalated to war, we will provide neutral services within the affected zones. We will be deploying small fleets with various essentials - Construction Vessels, Hospital Ships, Supply Freighters. The areas will be thoroughly jammed and shielded to provide a safe environment.

There will be Hakurabi Military Starships in the areas as security as well.

coded tacyonic transmission) :

General carvel, you are free to deploy forces, we will work in conjunction with your forces and repel the attack, we may suggest layering your ships and mixing them that way we get coverage from all classes and types of ships.

The union will also make sure your forces are covered, and will send in phykers to deal with sith warriors.

(OOC: Where'd you get General Carvel from?)

(OOC: Where'd you get General Carvel from?)
(ooc: RA2 ware else :P)

(OOC: Right.)

As promised, the fleets were deployed to the trouble sectors, close enough so help could be effected when necessary, but far enough that any fire would have been deliberate.

Also, a number of unfamiliar Hr'Wao Biological Ships joined the Federal Union ranks as support jammers. (OOC: Cassiopeia: This means that you don't know they're affiliated with me.)

The signal sent to all vessels in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th fleets was of the most dire nature. “Chaplain-Captains,” it began, the voice of the High Lord Commander booming through speaker systems throughout the UFE, “It is my duty to call you to war. A threat has been made against a foreign power we are in support of, and therefore a threat has been made against us! We will not stand for such insolence!”

The man’s voice grew in fury as he proclaimed the might of the United Forge Worlds, and the insidious poisons the great enemy was spreading across the void. He spoke of war and hatred, and things best left unsaid. For centuries afterward the speech will be remembered as one of the greatest ever given. And in the closing moments, it was recorded that the High Lord Commander did swear upon his throne that the galaxy would be delivered from the foul powers that sought to control them.

“Brothers, sons, men at arms, the time for war has come!” he finished in a resounding shout like a bell’s peel. And with that, the might of the UFE marched to war.

Comm buoys near the area picked up the news of TFU's declaration of war, and reported it back to Sevaris Prime. Grand Admiral Rybalko received the news in his office early that morning. He then rushed to the Palace, where he said only two words to the Empress. "It's time."

Empress Yuna sighed after she had read the nation's first declaration of war in a few hundred years. The nation had just come out of isolation, and within weeks was being thrown into what was essentially a colonial war? Disgusting, almost. But, in a way, it was necessary- to prevent the Cassiopeians from becoming too much of a threat, and to show that Sevaris was willing to defend freedom.

The votes came in, one yes vote after another- Sevaris was now at war.

The 12th Fleet, some 1,300 odd ships, had already assembled at the naval base near Sevastopol (One of the naval bases near the outlying parts of the Empire) and were ready for hyperspace. Soon, Rybalko's flagship, the RSS Glory arrived, and the armada jumped for the troubled sector.

FIFTEEN HOURS LATER

12th Fleet finally came out of hyperspace near the troubled sectors. The mass armada of Star Destroyers, Cruisers, Frigates, and Battlecruisers all made for an impressive site, even more so because they were led by one of the fleet's only Super Star Destroyers. Rybalko observed the field from the bridge of the Glory, and mused, "Only a matter of time. Nothing can save them (the Cassiopeians) now."

(OOC: Ya gotta tag that sorta thing. Remember that sarcasm and the like don't transfer well over the internet.)

Encoded Communique to Federal Union:
Well, it appears that the colonists are now out of the equation. It's safe to say, I believe, that all incoming ships will be combatants. As the Cassiopeians are fond of employing the services of various sith races, we are requesting permission to deploy Force Interdicting vessels to the affected zones.

General Communications:
As this situation has now escalated to war, we will provide neutral services within the affected zones. We will be deploying small fleets with various essentials - Construction Vessels, Hospital Ships, Supply Freighters. The areas will be thoroughly jammed and shielded to provide a safe environment.

There will be Hakurabi Military Starships in the areas as security as well.


Darkkaan, Cassiopeian Homeworld

The Jli'gai'meem'ban or The Cassiopeian Spynet as it is called in Basic soon intercepted the Message and Decoded it.

General Communication to Hakurabi

We ask you that you don't send any Force Interdicting vessels to the war zone or to TFU Space, The Fedral Union has had this Coming to them for a long time.

OOC: Tag and TFU, Godular is head of the G.F.F.A military. So if he feels the allience should give him aid either by giveing him some fleets on loan or whatever chances are the G.F.F.A will do shit. Since as i said he is head of military operations and the High Council and I both take his advice seriousely. But who is to say what happens. Anyway back to the rp you guys just wanted to make this really long ooc tag.

The Cassiopeians were already Prepeareing to fight a Very long War with The enemy. With General Chimaera going to lead the Cassiopeian Military, along with The Morgukai.

In the Shipyards of The Galaxy, more long range fighters, like The Ravens and X-wings, were being built. Chimaera's Plan called for raids on enemy ships with these deadly starfighters, even if they have to destroy enemy shipyards to get it done.

For her flagship, Chimaera picked the Eclipse-Class Super Star Destroyer Grand Revenge and it had a working Superlaser. Chimaera was going to make sure TFU would Bow down or be Wiped out.

Bump

The USS Heretic slowly glided in to formation its messily huge engines rumbled in to the void as the rest of the 4500 ship fleet fallowed in to defensive positions .

The hulls of the countless ships blinked with lights as there smooth features, were made apparent by the star light.

Mean while fighter squadrons , were deployed from carriers and dreadnoughts, filling the dark sky with thousands upon thousands of fighters.

This is your last warning from the department of defense, with draw your forces, we repeat withdraw your forces or we will fire.

Secert IC: Chimaera soon decided to trick the enemy to fight where She wanted. To Force them to battle in a Place were Large Ships would be of little use. The Best Place: Fomalhaut.

Fomalhaut (α PsA / α Piscis Austrini / Alpha Piscis Austrini) is the brightest star in the constellation Piscis Austrinus and one of the brightest stars in the nighttime sky. Its name means "mouth of the whale", from the Arabic فم الحوت fum al-ħūt. It is a class A star on the main sequence approximately 25 light-years (7.688 parsecs) from Earth.

Fomalhaut is believed to be a young star, only 200 to 300 million years old, with a potential lifespan of only a billion years. The surface temperature of the star is around 8500 kelvins. Compared to the Sun, its mass is about 2.3, its luminosity is about 15, and its diameter is roughly 1.7.

It is surrounded by a disk of dust in a toroidal shape with a very sharp inner edge at a radial distance of 133 AU, inclined 24 degrees from edge-on. The dust is distributed in a belt about 25 AU wide; the geometric centre of the disk is offset by about 15 AU from Fomelhaut. The disk is sometimes referred to as "Fomalhaut's Kuiper belt", it also has a Planet, Fomalhaut b, a Gas Giant.

a Young star with a kuiper belt was prefect for the first Battle of the war so she soon sent a Group of Small Ships and Fighters to the area (NOTE: the Fighters are Long Range ones.)

The task force

23 [i]Marauder[/i[-class corvettes
21 CR90 Corellian Corvettes
1,000 X-Wing Starfighters
918 ARC-170 starfighters
1,000 XM-1 Nova Wings

The Task force soon Jumped into Hyperspace and headed for Fomalhaut

Secret IC: another part of the Plan was to not use large Battleship till later, Smaller ships and Starfighters would force the TFU fleet to fight, knowing that TFU used big Warships and was overconfendent that he would be the winner. Smaller Ships had a More Avanage over TFU's Giants and could show him that his days were Numbered.

Address to all Nations
From The Colonial Federal Goverment (CFG)

[i]The CFG Fully supports our ally the Fedral Union, to this Part the Colonial Federal Goverment Navy has dispactched 3 fleets, the 10th, 11th and the Elite 191st to support the USFU in its attempts of stoping an Imperialistic Empire from spreeing into the Milkyway.

Its also a concern with the Borders of the CFG and the USFU are so close, even tho the Borders of our to space faring nations are littered with Spy stations, Wrackage from the old (countless) wars and other things the CFG feels that if the Cassiopeians managed to get a foot hold into Fedral Space it may spreed in ours.

We also wish to add to the Cassionpeians, that your reason for war is flawed. You should not have annouced to the Galaxy that you planned to colonise the systems until you had reached them. In our eyes the fedral union is the victim, if it was the other way around we would be less likly to get involved. Since you have no claim to the systems the Fedral union move into the nutral system is a just thing.

The CFG also wishes to add this warning to ALL AoN members, anyone who sides with the Cassionpeians and fires apon our ships will be delt with by the AoN. It also wishes to add this offer to the TFU of becoming a Protectrate of the CFG for the time of the war. All this will mean is offical the USFU is part of the CFG but will run completely on its own but any attack by AoN members will be considered an attack on the Corpsacian nation.


OOC: will make a proper post soon

The Cassiopeian soon sent a Message to anyone who wanted to see TFU be beated up.

To All Nations that are enemies of TFU:

The Galactic Empire of The Cassiopeia Galaxy is asking for Help in its war with The Fedral Union, Any Nation that is a enemy of TFU can Join the Fight for the time is NOW!

OOC: will make a proper post soon


OOC: CorpSac, Gronde wants a word with you. Now.

IC:

The Terran Dominion had little love for Cassiopiea, but it seemed as though The Federal Union was making claims that were beyond its realm of influence. That was intolerable. Only one Task Fleet remained undamaged in the recent battles between the GFFA and the GE, but that was the newest and most powerful, Task Fleet Attitude was dispatched towards the contested area in company of 5 Protoss Carrier Groups. The aggressive Federal Union would be shown who the true powers were in this area of space.

A simple message to the Cassiopeians:

This presentation of military strength is in violation of established treaties.

The measures we intended to put into place were more to watch YOU than them, and you have violated the terms of the agreement that ended hostilities between us. You are hereby ordered to stand down your forces and return them to your home systems immediately.

Foolishly you engaged in hostilities with the Fedrals. If you do not disengage and report back immediately, your crime will be your punishment.

~Baron Aeraeon Skye, Primarch, Triad Consortium of Godular

Sitting silently like forgotten sentinels, the large group of ships, a part of the newly created 1st Mobile Fleet, was in position in a deserted lifeless system three parsecs from the edge of the 10 Systems Region.

Field Marshal Noventa sat on the command deck of the Light Tower, the carrier flagship of the 1st Mobile Fleet. His pure night black uniform was immaculate, its golden pips indicating his rank. He starred out at the stars of space, looking beyond where the the 10 System Region lay.

An aide stepped forward. "Field Marshal Noventa sir, the scouts report that no enemy forces have detected out pressence. We've also intercepted several transmissions."

Noventa turned. "Thank you Major, have we acertained as to what nations or orginizations sent those transmissions?"

"Not yet, but my men are working on it. Shall we alert the Cassiopeian Colonial Government to our pressence?" asked Major Zechs.

"No, not yet. I want a scout ship sent to find out the current situation within the 10 Systems Region; there is no reason to send ourselves in blind," said Noventa. Major Zechs nodded and walked away. Noventa turned back to the view of space.

A silent thunderclap announced the arrival of the UFE force out of Netherspace. There were some 1249 warships amongst the fleet, not to mention the non-combatant force that included troop ships, factory ships, shield ships, hospital ships, and oilers.

They brought with them over 200,000 starfighters, nestled in the bellies of every single warship. There were nearly 20 million ground troops in-transit, enough to wipe clean every world that fell to the UFE.

As the matter/anti-matter drives of the vessels kicked in, they surged forward towards TFU space. Sent ahead of them was a message. “Greetings,” it started, “We wish to know where our services would be best rendered.”

A second message was sent in an information pulse into the void, where anyone may hear it. “This is the UFE strike force Orinthius. We are hereby proclaiming that our wrath shall be turned against the Cassiopeia Galaxy. We have no intention of doing anything else but crush them like the vermin they are, and as long as your ships do not fire upon us, all will be well.”

There were 1,734 ships in Task Fleet Attitude and the 5 Carrier Groups that had been deployed to support it, and they were all deadly. They bristled with weapons, mostly energy weapons, capable of shredding ISDs with little effort, but they had their massive KEW launchers and Grav-Cannon as well. And they had APOLLO. They appeared without ceremony in a system near those contested by TFU and TCG, preparing for the battle that lay ahead...

They appeared without ceremony in a system near those contested by TFU and TCG, preparing for the battle that lay ahead...

OOC: Isn't this getting rather close to drum rolling RP actions here, afterall isn't the point of freeform combat supposed to turn based in order to promote fair play and frankly going from "deploying" to "deployed" without allowing the other player to respond is something of a marginal godmod as it ignores the possibility that they could react to such a mobilisation (like you're mobilisation is a reaction to their actions).

Normally I wouldn't even bother commenting on these threads, but given how much people bitch at TFU for poor RP in the past it's only fair that I point out he's not the only one.

The bridge of the E.N.S. Charon, Einhauser’s newest and most complex vessel to date, was abuzz with activity. The Charon was part of Task Force Orinthius, sent to clean out the unholy infestation that had dubbed itself the Cassiopeia Galaxy. More importantly, however, this was the first battle the Charon had gotten a chance to participate in, and the first major conflict since the Einhauserian Civil War 35 years ago.

“Chaplain-Captain,” droned the monotone voice of the communications officer, “We have received a signal from the Judgment.” The captain nodded and pressed a stud on his command throne. The holotank in the center of the room lit up, preparing itself to receive the message.

The comm. officer depressed a series of studs on his pulpit and the image of Ramses Oniasis, Chaplain-Captain of the E.N.S. Judgment, flagship of the 6th fleet, appeared in the tank. “Greetings Ramses,” said the captain in an amiable way.

“Greetings indeed,” smiled Ramses. “It has been a while since we got the chance to talk, hasn’t it Nathan?” Nathan grinned sheepishly.

“Yes, I have been quite busy as of late, what with being put in charge of this fine ship. Now, enough pleasantries, what is it you wished to speak to me about?”

Ramses sighed heavily. “I have orders here for the Charon to move into a support position around my ship. I trust you will comply?” It was not hard to see that Ramses was reluctant to have the Charon anywhere near himself. As one of only two test beds for new and untested Einhauserian technology, nobody really knew if it would just randomly explode.

“Hearing and obeying,” said a voice from Nathan’s left. The captain looked over to the helmsman, who was swinging the big, ornate ship’s wheel to the right. It was not him that had spoken, however.

Glancing back to the screen, Nathan shook his head and grinned again. “Gotta love the machine spirits, eh?” he said, gesturing to the alter where one of the new model Mk III machine spirits was calculating their trajectory.

“Yes, they are quite the gift. Anyway, we should be in communication with the Federal Union soon, so I must go. Ramses out.” And with that, the window between the two men closed.

The neutral fleets within the system, incidentally, were Force-Interdicted. Of course the jamming fields were clearly marked, and at any rate what would Force-users want to use their abilities for in a designated neutral zone?

More than a few of Hakurabi's signature battlecruisers were present as escorts for the fleets. Messages were constantly pulsed in a short-range zone to notify incoming ships that it was a neutral zone - disarm weapons or be fired upon.

The neutral fleets within the system, incidentally, were Force-Interdicted. Of course the jamming fields were clearly marked, and at any rate what would Force-users want to use their abilities for in a designated neutral zone?

More than a few of Hakurabi's signature battlecruisers were present as escorts for the fleets. Messages were constantly pulsed in a short-range zone to notify incoming ships that it was a neutral zone - disarm weapons or be fired upon.

OOC: Does this zone cover the whole of the front?

OOC: Isn't this getting rather close to drum rolling RP actions here, afterall isn't the point of freeform combat supposed to turn based in order to promote fair play and frankly going from "deploying" to "deployed" without allowing the other player to respond is something of a marginal godmod as it ignores the possibility that they could react to such a mobilisation (like you're mobilisation is a reaction to their actions).

Normally I wouldn't even bother commenting on these threads, but given how much people bitch at TFU for poor RP in the past it's only fair that I point out he's not the only one.

OOC: I have established the fast response times of my fleets in many RPs. They generally arrive withing an hour or two of my deploying them. Having the ability to instantly move over great distances via Wormhole Junction helps alot too...

OOC: A couple hours is easily enough, and even if you do keep a large fleet perminantly mobilised in preparation for aggression against TFU (costly at the best of times) I would think it's pretty wanky to be there so quickly as to deny a responce... so the point is that there is a good chance they would notice such a mobilisation, afterall they are probably watching out for incoming vessels given the fact they are coming up to a likely conflict..

But nevermind, I won't waste my time futher as clearly being Future Technology means you can instantly arrive somewhere before anyone has a chance to react to it... which is affectly what you are doing even if you have split it across two posts. I'll leave this one to your opponent.

OOC: A couple hours is easily enough, and even if you do keep a large fleet perminantly mobilised in preparation for aggression against TFU (costly at the best of times) I would think it's pretty wanky to be there so quickly... so the point is that there is a good chance they would notice such a mobilisation, afterall they are probably watching out for incoming vessels given the fact they are coming up to a likely conflict.

But nevermind, I won't waste my time futher as clearly being Future Technology means you can instantly arrive somewhere before anyone has a chance to react to it... which is affectly what you are doing even if you have split it across two posts. I'll leave this one to your opponent.

OOC: No, I just developed a way to explain my ability to appear just about anywhere quickly. You'll note that others are less forthcoming about their methods... And, to tell the truth, I have 6 mobile fleets. Only one remains intact, but the other 5 are still around...

OOC: Whatever, you're missing the point but whatever. If you want to ignore a simple OOC concept of turn based combat and explain it with IC wank then thats up to you. But the fact is that your transport isn't instant (as that would be a godmode) and as such it's likely they will at least have a chance to pick it up and at least ask for support or just tell someone about it.

(OOC: I usually play it out [barring special conditions] so the first waves all show up around the same time.

Oh yes - the neutral zone is specifically out-of-the-way, so it doesn't get accidentally shot. As such, it's highly unlikely you'll end up in there whilst maneuvering, save a deliberate move to it.)

OOC: FTL transport is nearly instantainious (most, anyway). However, a ship would need time to gather aboard all of it's crew that are planet-side, restock, refuel, and get the proper clearances. Unless said ship is on permanant standby, that could easily take a week. Which considering 1 rl day = 1 ns year, it does not put that much of a dent in youre reaction time.

Federal ships with in the large allied fleet moved up they began setting up defensive perimeters around the planets as they awaited enemy ships to arrive, they sent out a general broadcast
the united states will not back down from our territory, we also know that a lot of new forces and factions have entered the area of combat, those who are not allied with us and those who are allied with the enemy are requested to leave the area immediately!

We do not wish a war with you how ever if you do not leave the area, and continue your attempts at supporting our enemy you will be crushed with the full might of the federal military.

Field Marshal Noventa sighed. "Then we have no choice. Major Zechs, bring the Light Tower about and alert the fleet. We're leaving."

"Yes sir," said Zechs. He saluted and turned to walk over to the communications consul.

Within the hour the hundreds of ships disapeared back in hyperspace, their pressence never having been seen.

OOC: TFU, accept my offer of Protectrate if you dont want AoN nations to jump you.....trust me this does more harm to me then it does you.

IC:

The Caniania System

The 191st Fleet had finished its jump, apearing out of thin air from a blinding flash, at once the ships split up into the task forces, 8 in total. They all were at the outer edge of the system, moving slowly at sub-light speeds into the system.

"report?" Fleet admiral Valkriye asked, he was the grand son of one of the legandary Admirals of the Dark Empire Grand Admiral Valkriye.

"nothing within sensor range, jump was completed with noting lost. total jump time 23 hours, all systems are ago." His 2nd in command replyed.

"good good" Valkriye replyed stroking his chin "have the task forces split up and start to patrol the system. I want hourly updates understand? its just a pitty the 3 fleets had to leave not fully supplyed...god dam wars."

"YES SIR" the 2nd in command said rushing off to send out the orders.

The Bilain System

The 10th Fleet arrived in the same mannor as the 191st but n the Bilain, Under the command of Rear Admiral Bain. Bain was less conventional man then others, as soon as they had entered the system he kept the fleet together sending out fighters to patrol the system, he had all the ships have there short jump drives (interplantary Drives) fully charge and the tactical teams working out meny different plans. His first order ofcorse was to scout out he system.

The Runi System

The 11th as you can guess arrived just like the other to in the Runi system, this fleet was under the command of Rear Admiral Iris, a smart quick thinker of a woman who always thought 3 steps ahead.

Iris had ordered the Fleet to split into 3 groups, her command group and the 2nd battlegroup with the 6th Carrier group were in one group. The 3rd and 4th battlegroups with the 7th Carrier group where in the 2nd group and the last group was the strike group, the 5th battlegroup with the 8th Strike Carrier Group. Each split away out into the system, each with there Short Jump drive fully charge and fighters out in full.

OOC: sos i cant write a better Post going to a New Year Party shortly

OOC: TFU, accept my offer of Protectrate if you dont want AoN nations to jump you.....trust me this does more harm to me then it does you.

IC:

The Caniania System

The 191st Fleet had finished its jump, apearing out of thin air from a blinding flash, at once the ships split up into the task forces, 8 in total. They all were at the outer edge of the system, moving slowly at sub-light speeds into the system.

"report?" Fleet admiral Valkriye asked, he was the grand son of one of the legandary Admirals of the Dark Empire Grand Admiral Valkriye.

"nothing within sensor range, jump was completed with noting lost. total jump time 23 hours, all systems are ago." His 2nd in command replyed.

"good good" Valkriye replyed stroking his chin "have the task forces split up and start to patrol the system. I want hourly updates understand? its just a pitty the 3 fleets had to leave not fully supplyed...god dam wars."

"YES SIR" the 2nd in command said rushing off to send out the orders.

The Bilain System

The 10th Fleet arrived in the same mannor as the 191st but n the Bilain, Under the command of Rear Admiral Bain. Bain was less conventional man then others, as soon as they had entered the system he kept the fleet together sending out fighters to patrol the system, he had all the ships have there short jump drives (interplantary Drives) fully charge and the tactical teams working out meny different plans. His first order ofcorse was to scout out he system.

The Runi System

The 11th as you can guess arrived just like the other to in the Runi system, this fleet was under the command of Rear Admiral Iris, a smart quick thinker of a woman who always thought 3 steps ahead.

Iris had ordered the Fleet to split into 3 groups, her command group and the 2nd battlegroup with the 6th Carrier group were in one group. The 3rd and 4th battlegroups with the 7th Carrier group where in the 2nd group and the last group was the strike group, the 5th battlegroup with the 8th Strike Carrier Group. Each split away out into the system, each with there Short Jump drive fully charge and fighters out in full.

OOC: sos i cant write a better Post going to a New Year Party shortly

OOC: CorpSac, Gronde, talk, now!

OOC: will make a proper post soon

TheTo corpsac:
The united states requests that the offer of our close brethren corpsac be a multal protectoral treaty, so that we may defend each other
, and we wish to show our endless gratitude, if there’s any way the united states can re pay you , please ask thank you.
Secret ic message
We are currently holding a defensive line in the systems, disputed if they attack we are ready, we have certain intelligence that they have forces stationed around this sector waiting for us.
Sincerely, the state department.

OOC: CorpSac, Gronde, talk, now!

Gronde, Me cant talk.....i no MSN or AIM. if he needs to talk to me then he can TG me.

On can someone give me the outline of the 3 systems im in (eg Planets, Astroids belts, Gas giants etc etc).

IC:


[b]Old United of Planets Alliance Military Encoding............
From:-Fleet admiral Valkyrie
To:- The United States of The Fedral Union Starfleet command

We have 3 fleets that have arrived in The Caniania System, The Bilain System and The Runi System.
Our plans are to hold off any attack apon our ships by ANY nation, we are not worried about any AoN members due to our fact that AoN dont look fondly at us killing each other. Tho we will fire apon anyone who fires apon us.

The CFG also accepts your offer of a MPP, we will consider ANY attack by ANY nation an attack apon us (this includeds AoN nations).

Must dash, we're have a small party on the ship.


OOC: crap post i know but im at a party

Gronde, Me cant talk.....i no MSN or AIM. if he needs to talk to me then he can TG me.

On can someone give me the outline of the 3 systems im in (eg Planets, Astroids belts, Gas giants etc etc).

IC:



OOC: crap post i know but im at a party

OOC: I understand, he sent me as his messenger in the hope you'd contact him via TG... I'll have him nag at you...

The unrelenting fury unleashed by the matter/anti-matter reactors of the UFE strike force tore at the void like an axe through flesh. The massive armada began to break up slowly as it neared the contested systems, until two distinct groups had formed. The 3rd and 5th and their accompanying non-combatants peeled away from the others and boosted out towards the Tai system, while the 4th and 6th fleet headed for the Rung system.

After a few hours of maximum acceleration, the first of the fleets found their marks. Transports disgorged millions of troops onto the surface of the worlds that the Cassiopeia Galaxy intended to conquer, prefabricated bases were fit together and dropped to the surface, various satellites were deployed, and the Goliath class Factory Ships began to manufacture small orbital defense stations.

The stations would probably take a few weeks to finish, even with all 16 Goliaths working nonstop. However, in the interim, the space around each system was clouded with the bulk of Einhauserian metal. Like glinting darts thrown in a poorly lit bar, starfighters slashed through the void on a constant sensor sweep. Nothing was going to take control of the Tai and Rung systems. Nothing.

Lieutenant Mial smiled evilly to himself. He looked at more of the small viewing monitors on the main screen of his mobile suit. UFE ground forces were landing across the planet, no real direction to their plans. Thus far they had begun constructing prefabricated bases, cheap Imperial models.

Mial smiled again. The UFE had not thus far detected the presence of the Specials, the special fighting force that was authorized with the ability to act independently of the main Thrashian armed forces. They’d landed on the planet with a brigade or two of their forces, and then proceeded to create a base within the center of the main continent on the planet. The mountain and forest terrain offered camouflage by sight, and the Minovsky particles that were emitted from the reactors of their mobile suits kept them from being detected by radar. The enemy thought to take the planet unopposed, and had arrogantly acted as that.

Another Leo, painted green and brown in color of the terrain stepped next to Mial’s own. “Sir, we’ve found the beginning construction of an enemy base,” the pilot said. Mial nodded.

“Understood, we’ll move out with the 12th MS team. Alert the others, and tell Commander Desmond that the enemy has come within the first perimeter.”

“Yes sir.”


One of the UFE pre-fab bases was being constructed in a valley below them. Enemy units sat around it guarding in a lazy fashion, safe in the assumption that they had taken over the planet. Most were busy construction of the base.

From over the mountain came 10 Aries mobile suits. They accelerated quickly and came bearing down on the base. A small smattering of enemy fire came up at them in surprise. The Aries fired with dozens of missiles, and their chain guns, raking the base and the men around it.

From the side of the valley four Tragos gun mobile suits opened fire with their 8 heavy cannons, bombarding the base completely, and patches of earth erupting from the force.

Then from both sides of the valley, coming out from their hiding places 30 Leo mobile suits walked forward, firing into enemy defenses and units. A few armed with shoulder mounted dober gun launchers fired powerful shots into the base itself.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Gundams/7-050.jpg

OOC: I thought you were on TFU’s side, Thrashia?

The loss was sudden, but not severe. What was a few hundred lost lives in the face of 20 million? But nonetheless an attack was an attack, and it was greated with all the wrath it deserved. Immediately upon hearing the news of the prefab’s destruction, an entire Theater (240,000+ troops) was dispatched to root out the infection.

Three squadrons of Halcyon gunships were called in as air support, blasting through the heavens like an avenging angel. When the first of the mobile suits was spotted, a cry went up all along the lines.

Although it put up a gallant defense, it was common knowledge that airstrikes were the bane of walkers. This point was driven home to at least another seven suits before an hour had gone past the destruction of the base.

OOC: I thought you were on TFU’s side, Thrashia?

The loss was sudden, but not severe. What was a few hundred lost lives in the face of 20 million? But nonetheless an attack was an attack, and it was greated with all the wrath it deserved. Immediately upon hearing the news of the prefab’s destruction, an entire Theater (240,000+ troops) was dispatched to root out the infection.

Three squadrons of Halcyon gunships were called in as air support, blasting through the heavens like an avenging angel. When the first of the mobile suits was spotted, a cry went up all along the lines.

Although it put up a gallant defense, it was common knowledge that airstrikes were the bane of walkers. This point was driven home to at least another seven suits before an hour had gone past the destruction of the base.


OOC: You will stop there sir. Under no means can you rp the position of my troops, nor that they are even in the area. You have suffered the loss of a single prefab base, your men know not the cause. Any such force would be sent to the area of the destroyed base to find the cause. My troops withdrew after attacking, disapearing as they had appeared. I hope this enlightment will help in you modifying that post.

OOC: No, I don't feel that I will stop. You attacked me. Plus, how can I miss the sight of 30 mobile suits the size of an apartment building jumping out of the trees, around a large base nonetheless, when I have 10 million humans and aliens on this world? There are fighters in orbit, there are ships scanning the surface. How could I miss you?

And why am I not allowed to RP killing a few of your mechs when you destroyed an entire base without even giving me a chance to defend?!

OOC: No, I don't feel that I will stop. You attacked me. Plus, how can I miss the sight of 30 mobile suits the size of an apartment building jumping out of the trees, around a large base nonetheless, when I have 10 million humans and aliens on this world? There are fighters in orbit, there are ships scanning the surface. How could I miss you?

OOC: you will need to re-read my original post. The reactors that power my mobile suits emit a particle called the Minosvky particle that causes the disruption of radar and sensors, making it that the enemy must sight the mobile suits by sight. And my suits are also camoflouaged. And yes you would miss them, your men are under the impression that they took the planet unaposed, meaning this attack was a surprise, thus the result of my men destroying your base. The issue can hardly be debated under that logic.

OOC: At the very least my men would have seen the suits as they were pumping fire into the concrete walls and alerted high command. A single orbital strike would have eliminated your entire force. Plus, you are telling me that scrambler systems on a tiny (relativly) mech could defeat those in the most advanced starships I own? I don't think so. Besides, if it gets too hot down on the surface, i'll just declare the world (which one is this battle happening on?) Exterminatus ;) . With TFU's permission, of course

OOC: At the very least my men would have seen the suits as they were pumping fire into the concrete walls and alerted high command. A single orbital strike would have eliminated your entire force. Plus, you are telling me that scrambler systems on a tiny (relativly) mech could defeat those in the most advanced starships I own? I don't think so. Besides, if it gets too hot down on the surface, i'll just declare the world (which one is this battle happening on?) Exterminatus ;) . With TFU's permission, of course

OOC: Sure, your men could have sent a message saying that unknown walkers, of unknown type and origin and numbers was attacking. That would be about it. And those particles are no simple scramblers, its a thing of physics. I can provide you with the link to the information pertaining to them so as to explain further.

And...how do you not know that I haven't established myself on other planets?

OOC: Thrashia, I'm not interested in doing a ground war. The whole reason I am in this RP is for the space combat. And so what if the walkers were an unknown type? Just because I don’t know what they are does not mean they won't die. There are a million different insects outside right now that I couldn't name, but they all shrivel and burn under the glare of a magnifying glass.

And I believe I already read the article on those particles. Although you may want to send it again, I'm a bit rusty.

I would also like to point out the absurdity of mechs destroying this fortress. They are dropped in large pieces from low orbit, and just need to be pushed into place. They are designed to absorb limited fire from orbit, so ground troops are not even a threat.

Finally, let me restate my earlier question that you did not answer: Why am I not allowed to kill a few mechs when you can destroy an entire fortress in a single post? Without giving me a chance to defend, even.

OOC: Thrashia, I'm not interested in doing a ground war. The whole reason I am in this RP is for the space combat. And so what if the walkers were an unknown type? Just because I don’t know what they are does not mean they won't die. There are a million different insects outside right now that I couldn't name, but they all shrivel and burn under the glare of a magnifying glass.

And I believe I already read the article on those particles. Although you may want to send it again, I'm a bit rusty.

I would also like to point out the absurdity of mechs destroying this fortress. They are dropped in large pieces from low orbit, and just need to be pushed into place. They are designed to absorb limited fire from orbit, so ground troops are not even a threat.

Finally, let me restate my earlier question that you did not answer: Why am I not allowed to kill a few mechs when you can destroy an entire fortress in a single post? Without giving me a chance to defend, even.


1) If you plan to take over planets, then prepare for a ground war.

2) The meaning behind not knowing the types, is that you do not know the enemy; therefore how can you effectively fight that enemy if he remains unknown?

3) Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Century_Technology#The_Minovsky_Particle)

4) My mobile suits are quite powerful, and much more deadly than any normal walkers or mechs you would encounter. The beam cannons on my Tragos guntank mobile suits are more than capable of destroying your pitiful pre-fab fortress, along with that the missiles of my Aries, and the explosive power of my Leo's dober gun. So yes, I can see them destroying a rudimentry half-completed base.

5) You are not allowed because you are not in a position to do so. I established a suprise attack, then faded back into the dust. Such a response also requires times, especially with the amount of troops you saying that you want to send there. I can see the flight of, fighters(?), that you sent could respond, but not in a timely fashion to determine the outcome. You have but to accept that my men made a quick cloak and dagger attack, then faded away; your men who would come to search would find the destroyed Leo suit, they would then see a part of what their up against.

Not only that, but your moving this rp at and absurd rate.

OOC: Thrashia, the problem is that you godmodded. You did the whole event without allowing the opponent to post a reaction and you dictated what happened to his troops. As by the sticking topic about godmodding, you are not allowed to dictate the losses of an enemy. If I wanted to, I could post nay examples in your attacking post of godmodding, where you took extreme liberties for yourself so as to ensure you won and on top of that, not allowing the opponent to post before it all happened makes it even worse.

OOC: You will stop there sir. Under no means can you rp the position of my troops, nor that they are even in the area.

A tad hippocritical, is it not, when you order HIS troops around so that you can win a battle.

Let HIM decide if you were successful in destroying his base. You have no right to post there and simply state that he was totally destroyed. It doesn't matter if the targets were of an 'unknown type', that doesn't allow you to godmod.

OOC: I will respond to each provocation in kind:

1) I do not plan to take over these worlds. I am defending them from the Cassiopeia Galaxy for TFU. Once the war is won, I will release them into his hands.

2) You seem to miss the entire point of it not mattering if I knew what they were or not. A single burst of Lance Cannon fire would incinerate the entire area, or if I feel extra mean, a Hellfire torpedo from the E.N.S. Charon would liquifie your troops and sterilize the ground beneath their feet.

3) Thx. Will read in a minute

4) I have seen every Gundam series to hit the US (except that stupid midget one), and I know how powerful those suits are. Their armor is like paper and their weapons are moot. You can claim you upgraded them, but kept the names of their weapons? I don't think so.

5) Doing what you did in a single post is a blatant godmod. A good RPer always allows the enemy to RP a turn, even if just to RP their defeat. You notice I didn't destroy your entire force? I could have, but I am not a godmodder. EDIT: Shoot, Kikoskriat said it before me. Well, same idea.

Halcyons are troop transports/ support ships design around the LAAT/i from Star Wars. Sorry I didn't explain earlier.

OOC: Thrashia, the problem is that you godmodded. You did the whole event without allowing the opponent to post a reaction and you dictated what happened to his troops. As by the sticking topic about godmodding, you are not allowed to dictate the losses of an enemy.

Let HIM decide if you were successful in destroying his base. You have no right to post there and simply state that he was totally destroyed. It doesn't matter if the targets were of an 'unknown type', that doesn't allow you to godmod.

OOC: Using a puppet Einhauser, is very sad in these terms. I in no way godmodded due to this reason: Your own dictating of events, taking over several planets without CG's own response, allows for this small attack to take place. It is insignificant that this response to your won landing would bother you. The loss of one single base dies not affect the outcome of this conflict. It is simply the opening to a possible ground war. I see no godmod in this.

OOC: I will respond to each provocation in kind:
4) I have seen every Gundam series to hit the US (except that stupid midget one), and I know how powerful those suits are. Their armor is like paper and their weapons are moot. You can claim you upgraded them, but kept the names of their weapons? I don't think so.

OOC: You know as well as mine that the only reason the Leo and other types seemed weak in that rediculous series known as Gundam Wing, is because of the Gundams. They were god-mod weapons against conventional weapons. You understand as well as I that using such an example is quite useless.

OOC: For a start, I am not Einhauser. :P You are welcome to communicate me through conventional messengers and check that for yourself. For another point. Just because someone MAY have godmoded before, that doesn't give you the right to godmod in return. Two wrongs do not make a right.

The start of a ground war could involve your people landing, yes. It could even involve you beginning an attack on the base, that's fine also. But as soon as you start drafting up enemy casualties, then you're godmodding. Doing it just because someone else may have isn't right, simple as that.

OOC: For a start, I am not Einhauser. :P You are welcome to communicate me through conventional messengers and check that for yourself. For another point. Just because someone MAY have godmoded before, that doesn't give you the right to godmod in return. Two wrongs do not make a right.

The start of a ground war could involve your people landing, yes. It could even involve you beginning an attack on the base, that's fine also. But as soon as you start drafting up enemy casualties, then you're godmodding. Doing it just because someone else may have isn't right, simple as that.

OOC: Then why do you continue to log in and off? This leads to my questioning of calling you a puppet. Further, you are not invovled in this. This is between me and Einhauser.

OOC: I continue to log on and off due to the fact that I get severe lag on the jolt forums. Secondly, I am cooking my dinner. Again, if you want to message me, my AIM and MSN are available. Unless, that is, you do not want to be proven wrong.

Secondly, I am simply stating the rules of godmodding. Who is involved is irrelevent, I simply want a good, well played out RP to commence here, as I have been watching this thread for some time with great interest and do not want it to be ruined.

Secondly, I am simply stating the rules of godmodding. Who is involved is irrelevent, I simply want a good, well played out RP to commence here, as I have been watching this thread for some time with great interest and do not want it to be ruined.

OOC:
Who is involved is quite relevent, according to the 'Wank Power Theorem'. And I too want a nice rp. I see in no way that I god-modded. Each of you place too much store by the simple act of one small base disapearing, its not a god-mod, its simple opening of a conflict. Like the opening move of a chess board. You do not realize this because you both are not able to comprehend a large scale planet wide conflict. Its not simply saying your sending massive numbers of troops, and thats it. To make a good rp you must consider all aspects of a scenario: moral, terrain, position, pretense, numbers, weapons available, men using those weapons, your enemy. You fail to ignore all those except numbers, which in end causes you to call what I did a god-mod.

OOC: Sorry all, my internet is being slow. I had to switch computers.

Now, let me make it clear that I am not Kikoskriat. I have never even heard of him until he just posted. My puppets are Kargucagstan, Lumastra, Board of Trade, and that's it.

I did not wait for CG's repsonse because he supplied none. I made it clear that I was comming, I made it clear I had arrived, and i made it clear that I moved in, all seperated by good time frames. Whether or not I lost a base is not the godmod. The godmod is the way you destroyed it.

I seem to recall that the mobile dolls (and mobile suits, as well) were very weak even against conventional forces. Remember the one where Hero Yui (spelling) killed a bunch with C4? I can double that explosive power or more in my tank shells.

OOC: I am able to fully comprehend what you are saying. I am entitled to my own opinions, just as you are. My opinion is that that is godmodding due to what is written about godmodding. Artistic liscensing with posts is fine, but it is usually recommended to talk to the person with whom this is going to involve first so that you have permission to do that. More then likekly, Einhauser is just as concerned that you simply did what you did as much as losing the base (which, if you want my personal opinion, is not really important; it IS only one base)

It's just better to plan these things ahead, you know? So that there aren't any nasty suprises lying in wait.

OOC: Sorry all, my internet is being slow. I had to switch computers.

Now, let me make it clear that I am not Kikoskriat. I have never even heard of him until he just posted. My puppets are Kargucagstan, Lumastra, Board of Trade, and that's it.

I did not wait for CG's repsonse because he supplied none. I made it clear that I was comming, I made it clear I had arrived, and i made it clear that I moved in, all seperated by good time frames. Whether or not I lost a base is not the godmod. The godmod is the way you destroyed it.

I seem to recall that the mobile dolls (and mobile suits, as well) were very weak even against conventional forces. Remember the one where Hero Yui (spelling) killed a bunch with C4? I can double that explosive power or more in my tank shells.


OOC: Very well. I accept that Kikoskriat is not your puppet. I was under the understanding that CG had quite clearly claimed these planets, and had settled them. Oh well.

If you like, I will alter my post, and allow you to respond. However, in no way will I allow you to think that a simple tank shell can take down a Leo. it would require at least three direct hits. So I request you do not forget that. I will rp them as acurrately and un-godmodish (as you declare) as possible.

Like he says, the base was just a base. I could drop a new one on top of it if I wanted. However, I don't. What I want to do is slaughter some starships. Plus, we are driving this thread off-topic, and we need to stop. Let's just say that you destroyed my base, I destroyed your mobile suits, and we agree we both godmodded. Ok?

EDIT: I RP my forces at roughly 3636 (today), so I could pack a nuke in the shells if I wanted to. So yes,i could probably kill a Leo (mass produced crap) with an RPG.

OOC: I apologise if I may have seemed outlandish in posting my opinions here. I thank you for listening and I also thank you for presenting your case to me in a thought out manner.

:) I hope to continue watching this thread and see your two mighty nations duke it out. I hope someday that we can RP with one another in the future.

Like he says, the base was just a base. I could drop a new one on top of it if I wanted. However, I don't. What I want to do is slaughter some starships. Plus, we are driving this thread off-topic, and we need to stop. Let's just say that you destroyed my base, I destroyed your mobile suits, and we agree we both godmodded. Ok?

EDIT: I RP my forces at roughly 3636 (today), so I could pack a nuke in the shells if I wanted to. So yes,i could probably kill a Leo (mass produced crap) with an RPG.

OOC: Accepted. Your base gone, 7 of my mobile suits destroyed. And your planetary commander now has information that mechs destroyed one of his bases, but from an unknown faction.

what a clusterfuck seriously if this isint sorted out im outta here guys this is way to much of a bitchfest for me i cant even under stand what the hell is going on!...)


IC:
Message to Einhauser from the united states department of defense,
We heard about an attack on your ground forces, we wish to help you avlite the strain on them by sending in heavy ground support, can you please give us cordance for were our soldiers could land?

Field Commander Rusvik gathered from his comms officer that the United States of the Federal Union had requested coordinates for a landing of reinforcments. Which could only be good, he thought.

"Give them the coordinates for the wrecked base. Give em a sense of the evil worked there. Might make em fight harder, ya know?" he said, trying to talk around his large cigar.

0500 hours
landing zone A…


large silver, black, and jungle camouflaged gun ships floated over head, as transport pods and large ships came to a stop and landed , tanks armed with huge isokentick rail cannons (ub3rfied M1A2’s), mechanized infantry, hover tanks, hover APCS, and mechs all grouped up and began marching rolling and hovering towards the base a massive show of force ,as space fighters thousands of them, and thousands of gun ships, 500,000 troops, tanks, mechs and other equipment hell marched towards there positions.

Of course, the massive new influx of men and machines from the most gracious Federal Union created a logistical nightmare that managaed to kill more than one of the acolytes handling organization. Still, it was worth it.

Rusvik took a drag from his cigar and motioned for an officer. When the young man scurried over, Rusvik blew a smoke ring in his face and grabbed him by the collar.

"Listen son," he said through clenched teeth, "We gots us a pack of fiends living off the fat o' the land here, and it's our job as respectful military men to root 'em out. Now, I want you to get that lard-ass of yours to the logisitics bunker and organize a joint mech-hunt between us and them thar Federals. Got it?"

The officer swallowed and nodded. He was off like a flash the moment Rusvik let go of him, much to the delite of the Field Marshal.

Sitting in an aclove in the mountain side the Special's scout unit sat huddled in their cloaks. They watched as the massive build-up of troops was made.

"Damn...we better alert Commander Desmond. Lieutenant Miel is gonna get it for this," said one. The other nodded. He stood and walked up a steep and narrow trail. He came to a spot that showed a view of the valley behind him and the one on the other side. He stumbled over to a small box sitting there. He opened the top, spun the dial hard, then picked up the reciever.

"Command this is Eagle Eye, we've confirmed a large military build up by Federial Union troops. They've landed from space."

"Confirmed Eagle Eye. Continue observation."

"Yes sir."



Inside the depths of a nearby mountain, Commander Desmond was growing more angry by the minute. Lieutenant Miel stood in front of him.

"I should courtmarshal you, but we're in a battle situation so I cannot take that liberty. Return to your unit Lieutenant," said Desmond.

"Sir," half-yelled Miel. He saluted and turned, then walked out from the commander's office.

Desmond sighed heavily. He was in charge of three brigades of the Specials, and given the present situation, his insubordinate officers were not a good thing.

He walked over to his holo projector, bringing up a map of the area. Small red dots notted his units. They were spread out in several lines of defense. He was confident that his men could handle most of the forces of Einhauser. However he might need to call on his Virgo's if he was to handle the present situation.

"Damn Miel!"

OOC: I'm off for the night. Happy New Year.

The scouting party sent ahead of the main force had found something. It wasn’t much, but anything was good enough for them. In the midst of the temperate rainforest, amongst the rotting undergrowth, there was a slight trail of broken leaves and sticks, the occasional furrow in the ground, and once, only once there was what looked like a shell casing.

The enemy was close. The lead of the team would stop suddenly, and the rest of them would fade into the forest as their stealth suits kicked in. Once the leader started moving again, the camouflage shut down and the men moved on. It was during one of these stops that an important discovery was made.

The leader stopped dead in his tracks, staring down at a depression in the mud. “Vehicular tracks,” he mouthed to his squad through his transparent helm. There was no explanation for them, except if something big and heavy, like an armored vehicle or a truck of some kind had rolled through here recently.

That suggested something was close by, but there was nothing on the current maps. “Leave a beacon,” the leader signed, telling his squad to leave a small device imbedded in the ground that would alert high command to the track’s position, should the scouts die. Once that was in place, the small group headed off into the forest.


OOC: C ya later Thrashia. Have a good weekend.

The Miehmish Fleet was holding position in an out of the way system, having contacted Alliance higher ups. Until they got some verification from Higher, they were reluctant to spark an incident.

OOC: Heres a link to my military page if you wish to know specifics. Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=460984)

Chimarea was already planning a Grand Offensinve against TFU, the target was keeped Secert, only the high officers, Chimaera and The Morgukai knew were the target was.

The Fleet

1 Ecilspe Class SSD
34 Nova Battle Cruisers
23 Providence-class carrier/destroyers
42 Assassin-class Corvettes
21 Sith Class Star Destroyers
21 Bakura-class destroyers
23 Ranger-class gunships
21 Heavy Munitions Cruisers
15 Gauntlet-class Star Cruisers
12 Tector-class Star Destroyers
10 Lucrehulk-class Droid Control Ships
62 Acclamator II-class assault ships
2,000 T-65 X-wing starfighters
123 XM-1 Nova Wings
121 Star Saber XC-01 Starfighters

134 Clone Divisions with 23,000 Clone Troopers, 12,000 Imperial commandos,200 AT-AT Walkers, 200 Self-Propelled Medium Artillery (SPMA) walkers, 123 All Terrain Attack Pod (AT-AP) walkers, 118 IG-227 Hailfire-class droid tanks, 123 OG-9 homing spider droids and 100 Decimators in each Division

The Fleet soon headed for

OOC; Thrashia, I just realized that my last post was kind of a godmod. If you want, I can delete it in the morning and repost another one.

OOC; Thrashia, I just realized that my last post was kind of a godmod. If you want, I can delete it in the morning and repost another one.

OOC: Yea, just post some of your men searching an area of woods in another part of the world, but still near where you base got destroyed. I'll have them run into a small group of my men.

bump

OOC: im confussed what system are you guys in (a name would be nice)

OOC: im confussed what system are you guys in (a name would be nice)

OOC:Its known as the Ten System Region, on the edge of TFU space.

OOC: Sort of like Faerun's Ten Towns in the Icewind Dale; ah, gotta love the chill air o' the Spine of the World

OOC:Its known as the Ten System Region, on the edge of TFU space.
I know that but witch of the 10 systems? im only in 3 of them (that i clearing Stated in my post) i want to know what systems the attacks have started in.

I know that but witch of the 10 systems? im only in 3 of them (that i clearing Stated in my post) i want to know what systems the attacks have started in.

OOC: A small start to a ground war has resulted in the system that Einhauser has entered (dunno which one), where my Specials have infiltrated and made a base to counter-act the conquest of FU and Einhauser troops.

OOC: I have control of the Tai and Rung systems. I couldn't tell you which planet this is on, or even which system it's in, because I honestly don't know!

EDIT: I edited my last post, Thrashia.

The declaration of war upon The Federal Union was only recently recieved by the God-Emperor. Messages take time to reach from one Galaxy to another. With an already established Trans-Galactic Gate, the Emperor mustered a force as soon as he could and launched it towards the Ten Systems, in an attempt to bring aid to The Federal Union Forces.

The first reinforcements would be small, though small numbers really meant nothing to the Empryian Navy. They were used to being outnumbered, usually 3 to 1 or more in most military engagements. They made up for this in sheer technological might and lavish amounts of Strikefighters. But the only real Empryian presence within the Milky Way Galaxy already had its own problems, its own forces dealing with a new enemy. As such, the new reinforcements came from parsecs away. One Battleship, the flagship Potestatem, two Light Battleships, four Heavy Carriers, Six Assault Carriers, 10 Heavy Cruisers, 6 Light Cruisers, 3 Scout Cruisers, and 9 Destroyers all entered the Larsima Colony Worlds and opened their respective wormholes to the edge of TFU space.

41 warships of the Empryian Navy exited near TFU space. They recharged their warp drives at all speed. Warping from one galaxy to another, then from one side of the Milky Way to the other, had drained the warp engines. They would need a few hours before they were all ready to enter near the Ten Systems.

And help in the defense of the TFU border worlds.

The united states appreciates the support of Empryia and we wish to establish an alliance with our brother.

The 31st mech division rushed in to battle fallowed by the 4th armoured corps, 19th mech division and, 22nd armored cavalry.

The large Hades, and raptor mechs rushed in running quickly , large red beams of energy and amour/ shield pricing missiles easily fired at enemy forces, laser cannons, charged ion cannons and practical cannons blazed, from tanks mechs and gun ships, forces piled up even more as pulses of fire missiles, and more beams flew towards enemy positions, a panther class mech deployed its EWS and began jamming singles and such.

Kazeci space boarders TFU space and as the two nations have a strong bond within the Covenant, Kazecistan too, sent aid. The first was in the form of a message to all involved in the issue.

The Covenant will not tolerate attacks upon its members. We stand united in defending each other. The Cassopians efforts will be met with swift and decisive retribution should they be so foolish as to continue.

Within Kazeci space fleets were recalled and prepared for battle. The message went out to other large covenant nations: Prepare to strike down this scum which attempts to invade our galaxy.

The united states appreciates the support of Empryia and we wish to establish an alliance with our brother.

The 31st mech division rushed in to battle fallowed by the 4th armoured corps, 19th mech division and, 22nd armored cavalry.

The large Hades, and raptor mechs rushed in running quickly , large red beams of energy and amour/ shield pricing missiles easily fired at enemy forces, laser cannons, charged ion cannons and practical cannons blazed, from tanks mechs and gun ships, forces piled up even more as pulses of fire missiles, and more beams flew towards enemy positions, a panther class mech deployed its EWS and began jamming singles and such.

OOC: Just who is this directed at? And if me, how did you acertain the location of any of my men?

( my nations sensors are some of the best in FT... im usieng ship born, planet born , and hand held sensor sytems)

( my nations sensors are some of the best in FT... im usieng ship born, planet born , and hand held sensor sytems)
ooc: That doesn't answer my question, and I could care less about what you claim about having. If you follow that link I provided in an earlier post then you'd know that sensors wont work.

(OOC: ok.. uhh sensors don’t work, please enlighten me.. I mean what’s up man? Your on the way to an ignore from me because first off your trying to use ub3rized wank, gundaum tech to get around from being totally wasted!, I’m sorry but I’m not accepting such a claim, if you think that’s unfair fine don’t rp with me but I’m not going to sit here and make this thread in to a bigger clusterfuck than it already its, I’m getting sick of all this ooc bickering and all this godmodeing I’m about to drop this thread and ignore it… )

(OOC: ok.. uhh sensors don’t work, please enlighten me.. I mean what’s up man? Your on the way to an ignore from me because first off your trying to use ub3rized wank, gundaum tech to get around from being totally wasted!, I’m sorry but I’m not accepting such a claim, if you think that’s unfair fine don’t rp with me but I’m not going to sit here and make this thread in to a bigger clusterfuck than it already its, I’m getting sick of all this ooc bickering and all this godmodeing I’m about to drop this thread and ignore it… )

ooc: follow this link to see how: Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Century_Technology#The_Minovsky_Particle). And once you do, then you'll find that there is a way to detect my troops. Also, you could rp searching the forest! Oh! And then we could have a real cool battle! But...you'd rather just plow on through.

ooc: follow this link to see how: Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Century_Technology#The_Minovsky_Particle). And once you do, then you'll find that there is a way to detect my troops. Also, you could rp searching the forest! Oh! And then we could have a real cool battle! But...you'd rather just plow on through.


Uh, all that article really says is that Gundam tech is wank, and trying to use it as a good reason as to why TFU's sensors cannot detect your mobile suits doesn't give your argument much in the way of credability.

Uh, all that article really says is that Gundam tech is wank, and trying to use it as a good reason as to why TFU's sensors cannot detect your mobile suits doesn't give your argument much in the way of credability.

OOC: First off, hes not THINKING. And mobile suit technology is not wank, far from it. The article shows you how the reactors emit the Minovsky particle, which disrupts radar and most other metal-detecting sensors; ones that most FT nations emply to find their enemies. Now, how else to find me? Instead of making a god-mod post about attacking my men without knowing where they are, his commander might think: "Oh wait, we haven't tried heat detection yet!" or he might have his field commanders search on the ground for traces of my men.

OOC: First off, hes not THINKING. And mobile suit technology is not wank, far from it. The article shows you how the reactors emit the Minovsky particle, which disrupts radar and most other metal-detecting sensors; ones that most FT nations emply to find their enemies. Now, how else to find me? Instead of making a god-mod post about attacking my men without knowing where they are, his commander might think: "Oh wait, we haven't tried heat detection yet!" or he might have his field commanders search on the ground for traces of my men.

I will not get into whether or not mobile suits are wank or not, because this is not the thread for it, and really I am not involved in this RP in any way whatsoever, however I should point out that moden FT nations don't use 'metal-detecting sensors', most use LIDAR, Gravimetric sensors, and all sorts of detection wank. Also that particle somewhat begs the question, wont the FT sensor operator go, "huh, something in x location is distrupting our sensors..."?

OOC: Guys, this needs to stay on topic. If we keep going OOC, we'll be screwed.

IC: A few meters from the truck tracks the scouts stumbled onto a pair of giant footprints, suggesting that the mecha force that had destroyed the local garrison's fortress, or at least others like them, had come this way. Signaling for extra stealth, the leader of the squad slipped ever deeper into the woods.

Also that particle somewhat begs the question, wont the FT sensor operator go, "huh, something in x location is distrupting our sensors..."?

ooc: My point exactly, thankyou for stating it. Thats all he has to do, then we can get ourselves an interesting ground battle.

A few meters from the truck tracks the scouts stumbled onto a pair of giant footprints, suggesting that the mecha force that had destroyed the local garrison's fortress, or at least others like them, had come this way. Signaling for extra stealth, the leader of the squad slipped ever deeper into the woods.

Sergeant Kines sat next to his Zaku MS chowing down on a meal. The sun was high and mid-day was already past. Sitting in the forest was cool and kept the sun from you, but it was still hot and muggy out. Kines and his squad of men had been put to watch the western approach through the first major mountain pass.

The forest gave good cover, its trees nice and tall; enough to be able to hide in anyway. Kines looked up from his plate of beef and beans as one of his men came forward quickly.

"Sir, we've detected an enemy scout group headed this way. I picked them up with the listening detector, but I think they saw me," he said urgently.

Kines frowned. "What are they doing here? I thought we wiped out that base some 50 klicks away from here, about four valleys over."

"I don't know sir, but if we don't do something, they'll discover this position. We should attack them now, and kill them."

"No," said Kines. He smiled at the privates obvious misunderstanding. "We'll wait for them. Call Lieutenant Doller, of the Assault Teams. His men are the real infantry, let them deal with these scouts."

"Yes sir sarge."


The twenty man armed Assault Team spread out through the forest trees, marking the pressence of each other. Their assault rifles fully loaded, grenades handy, and other small fire arms they cared to carry.

Doller ran forward to a tree and stopped, looking forward down the sites of his rifle. He waved an arm forward. Two men ran up past him to another position.

About a hundred meters away, Doller saw a metal gleam. He comminicated to his men using hand signals. We'll wait here, Geares's squad move left, Highler's squad right. My squad will draw them into the middle.

They all nodded and moved off, ready to see if they could trap these scouts.

The usually black stealth suits of the scout squad were covered in patterns of green and brown, which the built-in computer had created using artificial pigments in the fabric of the armor. It only worked when the scouts were sitting still, of course, as the computer was too small to synthesize moving terrain.

Perhaps that was what betrayed the squad. No one will ever know for sure, as at that moment the forest erupted in gunfire. Bullets whipped out of the foliage, cutting down two of the four men in the squad before they even registered the attack.

Leaping into a back handspring to avoid the fire, the leader of the squad managed to send the self destruct codes to the miniaturized fusion reactors buried in the backs of the two downed scout’s suits. They would detonate when someone, or something approached them, or when the timer ran out.

The other surviving member somersaulted to the left and launched up a tall oak-like tree, followed by a trail of shells that bit the wood of the tree in a random pattern of destruction. Leaping from a low limb to a nearby tree pulled the scout out of the immediate danger. Or at least he thought. Somehow the enemy had gotten behind them as well, a fact that was driven home by the solid slugs whistling into the flesh of the scout.

They stitched a line of bloody holes from the chest of the man down to his left knee, and one of them must have cracked the case of the scout’s reactor, for the entire tree, and all the matter within five meters, was swallowed in a nuclear blast.

The scout leader, who had been hiding behind a nearby mound, was thrown back several meters, smashing through saplings and various plants, to land in a small gully. He knew that his back was probably broken. With a supreme effort of will, he managed to send off a string of coordinates to his commanders, telling them where the squad was cut down.

Then, as a final act of defiance, he detonated his reactor.

"So what's the plan?" Space Grand Marshall Winton asked Prime Minister Freeman.

"We aid our ally Einhauser in his defence against the Cassiopean Galaxy. I'll leave the military aspects of it up to you fine folks."

The gathered heads of staff chuckled at the PMs remark. "Preliminary scouting suggests massive deployments from all sides involved. Including a relatively serious ground force for such a small action." Surface Marshall Nugent reported quickly.

"Relatively serious?" Freeman asked.

"Einhauser has only deployed twenty million ground troops, for a campagn on one world that is serious, but if they plan to extend their reach that number is insignificant." Freeman nodded in understanding of Nugent's remark.

"How about the space front Janice?"

Fleet Admiral Janice Elliot spoke, "TFU has commited around three thousand ships with most other parties sending fleets in the fifteen hundred range." She consulted her datapad, "I don't have enough info on Thrashia's fleet at the moment but Cassiopea's consists mainly of so called "Seperatist" ships from the GFFA, their largest threat to us is a single Eclipse class Star Dreadnaught. A single Nightingale could deal with the Sep ships without breaking a sweat, the Eclipse would be more of a challenge but fleet R&D designed the Nightingales to engage super-capital ships so unless the enemy got a golden BB victory would be ours."

"Your suggestion?"

Elliot smiled, "You know me Ma'am, overwhelming firepower is my thing." Freeman smiled, "Thus I suggest we attach both Mocking Bird and Meadowlark and their battleship escorts to Third fleet. That would give us a total ship strength of five-thousand two-hundred and twenty ships with one-hundred and twenty three ships of the wall."

"That's a third of our mobile forces." Nugent added.

"Yes it is, but we still have the other two-thirds as well as Home fleet, which includes Bird of Paradise, Golden Eagle and Albatross so we won't be running short of firepower home side."

"I can spare two Star Armies from the Marines for planetary assault. It won't be enough for holding even one them but we can kick Cassiopea off any planet we choose with fleet support." Surface Marshall Julie Kap of the Confederate Marine Corps said.

"If extra forces are required I have four Star Armies available from the Army." Nugent added, "But Kap and I don't think they'll be needed."

"The Space Force has a Star Division ready to be deployed with the Navy and Marine Corps." Winton finished.

Freeman nodded, "All right. Let's do this, I want everyone deployed ASAP."

The Confederacy was going to war.

OOC: Einhauser asked me to assist, and here I am. Forces are as follows.

Navy:
3 Nightingale-class Star Dreadnaughts
60 Dauntless-class Star Battleships
60 Ravager-class Star Battlecruisers
240 Dawn Runner-class Star Cruisers
960 Grizzly-class Star Destroyers
3840 Magnificent-class Star Frigates

Space Force: 1,048,576 spacecraft (assorted fighters, interceptors, bombers and the like)

Marine Corps: 2 Star Armies (33,554,432 total troops)

Army: 4 Star Armies in reserve (67,108,864 total troops)

I'm using 5% population military, that means 147 million troops in the miltary, so yes this is a major operation.

OOC: Wow. When someone asks you for help, you really deliver! Good to see you man.

Kines looked at the small mushroom cloud with his binoculars. The Assault Team had been sent half an hour before, and it was quite obvious that they had met the enemy. Kines was standing on the shoulder of his Zaku, just over the rim of trees. He looked down into the small clearing at the radio man.

"Hey Mac! Get on that thing and find out what happened!"

"Yes sir."


Doller grunted to his feet in pain. His arm was bleeding, a large piece of wood was stuck in it. He cursed and pulled it out with supreme effort. He quickly took out his med pack and tied it around, putting on pressure.

After doing that, he looked around. Three of his men were coming out of the cloud of dust that was rising up. Most were wounded, only Elias seemed untouched. That left 16 other of his men dead.

"Damn...didn't expect them to have self-detonating devices on simple scouts...goes to show I guess," he said. Suddenly his pack radio started buzzing. He picked up the reciever.

"Doller here."

"What happened? Did you find the enemy?"

"Yes, we destroyed them, or rather they destroyed themselves. Tell Kines he better alert Command. The enemy will know of this, can hardly miss it. I expect a force will be sent to check out this area."

"Roger than Lieutenant. Kines says you are to come back with any survivors and return to the main base."

"Very well, Doller out." Doller clicked the kill button and the line went dead. he turned to what was left of his men.

"Alright, lets head back to base."



Kines sat with six other Lieutenants and Sergeants in a semi-circle. Captain Filgari stood in the center with a holo projector. He pointed with a laser pointer to a spot on the map.

"Here gentlemen was where the enemy scouts were detected and engaged two hours ago. We can presume the enemy will know now to send more troops into this area. Seeing as this is the East Approach 1st defense line, its out job to keep the enemy here," the captain said. The projector changed, showing the valley's terrain.

"Here at the lip of the valley is the only direction from which the enemy can come by ground. Our AA batteries will be standing by, and so will my Aries unit. However it is up to your MS teams to hold the ground. I've had a battalion of Assault Troopers brought up from Command to help reinforce us, in the case that the enemy tries bringing in infantry.

"Now, you have your orders, prepare well."

ooc: also a note to everyone. My men are part of an organization known as the Specials. They operate outside control of the main Thrashian Army, meaning that they can choose to enter conflicts and battles at their leisure. They're pressence here does not mean that Thrashia as a country is at war with TFU, but that the Specials themselves have taken it upon themselves to get involved.

OOC: Wow. When someone asks you for help, you really deliver! Good to see you man.

OOC: Same to you.

That tares it! I’m sick of this wank I’m sick of this god modeling screw this and screw the thread, I’ve had enough of this. We have Thrashia here with his OMFG IM 1337!!!! YOU CANT DETECT ME I have UB3R TECH!, THEN WE HAVE Xessmithia RUSHING IN HERE WITH HIS WANKISTIC ARMY AND UB3RIZED 999 KM ship fleets! I cant take it any more I’m ignoring the thread.

OOC: Calm down, TFU. The sensor thing will soon be resolved when the ground war ends, and Xess's military is going to be needed if the GFFA or others come in, which at one point looked unavoidable, and is now a constant threat.

IC: The pickets on the edge of the Tai system were the first to pick up the Xessmithian fleet’s signals, and served as a relay for the larger ships in orbit around the various worlds. Within an hour of the allied fleets arrival, a flotilla of Fury class Grand Cruisers were dispatched to escort the Xessmithians to both the Tai and Rung systems.

* * *

When news of the scout squads demise reached the ears of the orbiting fleet, all electronic eyes were turned towards the area immediately surrounding the scene of the deaths. Although curious blind spots were found in some areas, most of the jungle looked untouched. However, the longer the sensors glared down from the heavens, the more seemed to be revealed.

A bit of concrete sticking out of a dirt hill here, a metallic glint there, and the occaisional thermal signature revealed a human precense. With what information had been gleaned by the various commanders of the armada, it was decided to advise Field Marshal Rusvik to carry out a probing strike with orbital support.

* * *

Field Marshal Rusvik gazed across the forest from on top of a hill, his vision augmented by a pair of magnoculars. The blast craters where the scouts had been killed could clearly be seen though the electronic eyes of the small machine, revealing the violence of that quick battle.

With a grunt the marshal flipped on his radio and transmitted the coordinates of the area to his communications acolyte back at base. Within seconds they were being relayed to the E.N.S. Judgment’s bridge, and from there to the Lance Arrays.

The enemy men holed up in their bunkers and defensive lines might have noticed a metallic tang to the air just before it happened. Maybe the hair on the backs of their necks stood up on end. Of course, even with these warnings, none of them expected what happened next.

In a flash of blinding white light the bombardment began. High overhead the E.N.S. Judgement was opening up with its port Lance Arrays, burning away the vegetation on the mountain fortress and incinerating anyone not under dense cover. Beams of searing flame gouged threnches in the soil, sending plumes of debris miles high.

Unfortunately, most of the soldiers were. When the lights finally began to still and disappear, not many men or machines had been destroyed, but where once was green was now black and burnt for kilometers around. A few deep craters marked where the Judgment had calibrated its weapons before the full bombardment began, and the scent of ozone was heavy in the sweltering air.

Through the dancing ashes and leaping flames left over from the strike came a much greater threat, however. The men of the Marines, hunkered down for the orbital strike below the hill their commander was laying on prepared to move out.

That tares it! I’m sick of this wank I’m sick of this god modeling screw this and screw the thread, I’ve had enough of this. We have Thrashia here with his OMFG IM 1337!!!! YOU CANT DETECT ME I have UB3R TECH!, THEN WE HAVE Xessmithia RUSHING IN HERE WITH HIS WANKISTIC ARMY AND UB3RIZED 999 KM ship fleets! I cant take it any more I’m ignoring the thread.


OOC: My army fits my population and capabilites, you don't like it, tough luck. The fact that you don't even think about this kind of stuff makes you a flaming moron. So either back up your claim or shut up.

IC: Fleet Admiral Elliot glanced at her comms officer, "Ask the scounts which system has the most fighting going on. We should deploy there first and make a base of operations. These systems aren't far enough apart to pose any significant transit delay if we have to ship out."

OOC: My army fits my population and capabilites, you don't like it, tough luck. The fact that you don't even think about this kind of stuff makes you a Lio Coh Jwei Ji Neong Hur Ho Deb Yung Duh Buhn Jah J'wohn. So either back up your claim or shut up.

OOC: To be honest, even I would ignore a 5% population military of that size... but meh, it takes all types I guess. Simply put TFU doesn't seem to want to RP with it and while he didn't chose a good way to do it he has said he's leaving this thread, so essentially he is shutting up.

Meanwhile, I don't know what you just called him, but it looks a bit like flaming to me so I would advise you edit it out.

OOC: Well, umm, since TFU has dropped out, and this is on his border, we have to stop. So, this is my farewell. However, I think we should do another one some time. Has been fun.

Oh, Xessmithia, I'm sorry I dragged you into this for nothing.

OOC: Well, umm, since TFU has dropped out, and this is on his border, we have to stop. So, this is my farewell. However, I think we should do another one some time. Has been fun.

Oh, Xessmithia, I'm sorry I dragged you into this for nothing.

No problem.

OOC: Well, umm, since TFU has dropped out, and this is on his border, we have to stop. So, this is my farewell. However, I think we should do another one some time. Has been fun.

Oh, Xessmithia, I'm sorry I dragged you into this for nothing.

OOC: Damn you! lol, darn, I was wanting to have a cool ground war...

OOC: if TFU didnt go off on a huff and a puff i would have used my ships to detect the Mobile suits (got to love Partical Sensors). Dam it and i had 3 systems no one seemed to have gone in all for the taking :'(

OOC: if TFU didnt go off on a huff and a puff i would have used my ships to detect the Mobile suits (got to love Partical Sensors). Dam it and i had 3 systems no one seemed to have gone in all for the taking :'(

OOC: If Gronde had okayed this, I'd have been on you like nobodies business... But then TFU got all pisy, as usual...

OOC: If Gronde had okayed this, I'd have been on you like nobodies business... But then TFU got all pisy, as usual...
OOC: its like i said to gronde, aslong as i get prewarning of any attack on TFU by a AoN member i would Void the MPP for that decleration of war (if you attack me then i would not hold anything back....not a thing nunda

OOC: its like i said to gronde, aslong as i get prewarning of any attack on TFU by a AoN member i would Void the MPP for that decleration of war (if you attack me then i would not hold anything back....not a thing nunda

OOC: Seems reasonable. But, it's effectively moot now my friend, since TFU has left the building...

OOC: we're in a building...i thought it was a mud hut with holes :P

Pitty, anychance thist can be sorted out. i was enjoying this RP

OOC: we're in a building...i thought it was a mud hut with holes :P

Pitty, anychance thist can be sorted out. i was enjoying this RP

OOC: This is TFU and TCG we're talking about... TFU ignored me at one point due to my Impeller Wedge Tech, which you may or may not remember from the Hulk Thread...

OOC: This is TFU and TCG we're talking about... TFU ignored me at one point due to my Impeller Wedge Tech, which you may or may not remember from the Hulk Thread...

me remember..this is me we're talking about, the person who has to re-read my own posts 2 or 3 times so i know what units im useing.

OOC: I was busy playing My Two PC Games that I didn't post last night. But even Though TFU is out of this, The Thread will still go on.

me remember..this is me we're talking about, the person who has to re-read my own posts 2 or 3 times so i know what units im useing.

I've barely interacted with you at all since then, gimme a break... On the othner hand, I've gone Starcraft on everyone, and use their Yamato Cannon to utterly dominate anything that uses SW tech. Then, I have Protoss for BFG ships. It's alot of fun actually...

OOC: This is TFU and TCG we're talking about... TFU ignored me at one point due to my Impeller Wedge Tech, which you may or may not remember from the Hulk Thread...


OOC: mmmm... Impeller wedges. Fortunately I know how to deal with them, momentum transfer. Hit it with enough momentum and tear the impeller nodes clear off the ship:p

OOC: Thing is, the Yamato Cannon is a Wave Motion Gun - Under normal circumstances it should be one big cannon scaled to be able to fire with maximum ship power.

'Course, when people say 'Yamato Cannon', they usually mean Starcraft's Battlecruiser sized Wave Motion Gun.


Say, why doesn't anyone's ships have radiators?

Cassiopeia: As evidenced by the huge bulk of OOC posts, this thread has become a technological discussion. No, you may not say that you have successfully colonised TFU space. TFU's seized ownership of the systems and deployed a force to it.

OOC:Say, why doesn't anyone's ships have radiators?

OOC: I have radiators, they're just based off of neutrino emmissions rather than traditional EM spectrum.

(ooc: ok CG your territory is ignored, so basically your taking over space but its not next to min Mini Miehm, that stupid weapon was ignored for major wank and god mode, and you are now officially on my ignore function. Thrashia I suggest you buff up on your turn based rp before you go in to threads and rush in them , Xessmithia over all I don’t want to deal with you or a lot of these people in this thread, you wank up when there’s no need to ruin the fun of the battle and thread when your enemies are going toe to toe seriously I don’t appreciate that, further more CG if you want a war make a closed thread other wise I wont rp, I don’t want dog piling. I’m sorry if this seems like a flame but it’s the truth I’m fed up now I’m leavening this thread good bye. )

Xessmithia over all I don’t want to deal with you or a lot of these people in this thread, you wank up when there’s no need to ruin the fun of the battle and thread when your enemies are going toe to toe seriously I don’t appreciate that,

Wank up? Bull shit, just because I have a sense of scale and you don't is no reason to call me a wanker you whiny pissant.

All I can say is good riddance and grow a pair of balls to compensate for your lack of brains.

OOC: Thing is, the Yamato Cannon is a Wave Motion Gun - Under normal circumstances it should be one big cannon scaled to be able to fire with maximum ship power.

'Course, when people say 'Yamato Cannon', they usually mean Starcraft's Battlecruiser sized Wave Motion Gun.


Say, why doesn't anyone's ships have radiators?

Cassiopeia: As evidenced by the huge bulk of OOC posts, this thread has become a technological discussion. No, you may not say that you have successfully colonised TFU space. TFU's seized ownership of the systems and deployed a force to it.


Tch Tch Hakurabi, the Yamato Cannon, according to the SC manual, is a directed nuclear energy weapon... Although in SC it was only a Yamato Gun, and this is more like a Dn sized model, even if it does still get mounted on BCs.

And, my ships do have radiators...

Wank up? Bull shit, just because I have a sense of scale and you don't is no reason to call me a wanker you whiny pissant.

All I can say is good riddance and grow a pair of balls to compensate for your lack of brains.

Insulting someone else in this manner is not only inappropriate, but poor form. I suggest that you knock it off now.

I would suggest, Euroslavia, that you close this thread. The content is leading to spamming and another thread can be brought up to argue the better details of future tech weaponry and the rp'ing skills of others.

Wank up? Bull shit, just because I have a sense of scale and you don't is no reason to call me a wanker you whiny pissant.

All I can say is good riddance and grow a pair of balls to compensate for your lack of brains.


You think that using 5% of your population as your military isn't total wankery?

OOC: mmmm... Impeller wedges. Fortunately I know how to deal with them, momentum transfer. Hit it with enough momentum and tear the impeller nodes clear off the ship:p

That'd have to be alot of momentum, and, you'd probably be better off just overwhelming the compensators if you can create momentum like that...

You think that using 5% of your population as your military isn't total wankery?

I also use a 5 percent military population. I could actually use more, but it'd be a bit questionbable... As in, every single criminal would get resocialized, and put into the military...

I also use a 5 percent military population. I could actually use more, but it'd be a bit questionbable... As in, every single criminal would get resocialized, and put into the military...
I guess that means you have 10 men to every rifle then huh?

I guess that means you have 10 men to every rifle then huh?

No, I actually have about 3-4 rifles, and suits, to every man. This is not like ubertech marines here buddy, theses are SC Confederate Marines, cheap, tough, and expedable. Just like you.

Yes, that is a less than subtle hint that your presence is not, and never has been wanted.

It's namesake is, however. I use the term 'Wave Motion Gun' for any superweapon that uses full reactor power to cause massive damage at the expense of everything else.

I think I'll rework my military into more conventional physical principles. Phased Array Lasers, Missile Launchers, Coilguns, and torchships.

No, I actually have about 3-4 rifles, and suits, to every man. This is not like ubertech marines here buddy, theses are SC Confederate Marines, cheap, tough, and expedable. Just like you.

So basically, total wank, to the extreme.

Yes, that is a less than subtle hint that your presence is not, and never has been wanted.
Denied.

It's namesake is, however. I use the term 'Wave Motion Gun' for any superweapon that uses full reactor power to cause massive damage at the expense of everything else.

I think I'll rework my military into more conventional physical principles. Phased Array Lasers, Missile Launchers, Coilguns, and torchships.

Wouldn't know about it's namesake man, I'm an SC\bastardized SC RPer. I kill SW, and that's about it.

So basically, total wank, to the extreme.

No that actually wouldn't be wank, because he's not giving each one a gun. And its really not up to you to decide if its wank. Not to mention that fact that you've only been on this site for a limited amount of time compariatively. 'Wank' is something that depends between the two people who are discussing the issue in question during an rp. So, please keep from just labelling everything 'This shit is wank'.

No that actually wouldn't be wank, because he's not giving each one a gun. And its really not up to you to decide if its wank. Not to mention that fact that you've only been on this site for a limited amount of time compariatively. 'Wank' is something that depends between the two people who are discussing the issue in question during an rp. So, please keep from just labelling everything 'This shit is wank'.

Thank you Thrash, though I am giving every Marine a gun. It's the admin people that don't guns.

No that actually wouldn't be wank, because he's not giving each one a gun.

No, he is giving each one 3-4 guns.

And its really not up to you to decide if its wank.

Anyone with any sense would call it total wank.

Not to mention that fact that you've only been on this site for a limited amount of time compariatively.

A year aint a limited amount of time.

'Wank' is something that depends between the two people who are discussing the issue in question during an rp. So, please keep from just labelling everything 'This shit is wank'.

5% of your population being military is Wank, unexcuseable wank when they are well decently trained and moderately equiped.

'Wank' is something that depends between the two people who are discussing the issue in question during an rp.

To be honest, anyone can call something else wank because at the end of the day, like you just pointed out, it's down to the two people who are RPing. That said though you did pretty much planet fall in this thread while claiming damage and telling the other player to accept it as it's just the start of a big fight, something he wasn't very happy about but ultimately accepted because he wanted to RP.

It's all very well everyone being annoyed that TFU has given up on this thread, but at the end of the day it was his choice and it wasn't entirely surprising given the mean and varied examples of how things got messed up for him. Starting off with a thread which was clearly designed to bait him out (again) he tried to deal with it and did for once a rather good job, people were actually supporting him because he was more or less in the right, taking territory to stop another aggressive empire that has a history of aggression against him from getting a staging point. Even when others started to oppose him with no reasoning other then they don't like The Fedral Union in character (as there wasn't any other real reason to attack him) the thread seemed to have potential... but the mood had been severely ruined as once again it was turning into a thread about stomping TFU.

Things then just more or less got alot faster, with some players just jumping forces in without giving him a chance to respond, some dodgy numbers and the whole stealth thing I actually agree that TFU shouldn't automatically find your troops, but in all fairness the whole thread was something of a mess at that point and he was already ignoring some people but hadn't said anything about it.

In all honesty alot of this could have been solved with a bit of planning and perhaps more importantly, remembering that in essense you were all attacking TFU and at the end of the day the thread relies on him accepting you are fighting next to his thread (it being the entire premise of the thread) if you don't keep him happy, a hard task at the best of times, this was bound to happen. This thread was based around baiting TFU, and it failed because he decided he liked his chanced and then people decided to flood him with their powerful but "acceptable" armies, it was based on bad form and in continued with it once he'd taken a bite, perhaps instead of playing against him, you should try and play with him.

5% of your population being military is Wank, unexcuseable wank when they are well decently trained and moderately equiped.

Incorrect, it's usually concidered by most players as wank, but given that most of these nations play at increased population levels and rather powerful future technology concepts it's probably not surprising that it's acceptable for them to have economy breaking armies that many of us normally would laugh at for being over-compensation.

Like I said in the last post wank is down to the people RPing in each thread and if they are both prepared to accept it then it's ok for that thread, so long as they don't try and force it on others. That said, attacking someone and claiming they have to accept their huge army because 'others' accept it is terrible form and frankly I would support ignoring such players because they don't understand the idea of this being a co-operative game.

Personally I generally avoid RPing with nations who inflate their nations population and army figures just to play as a space empire because frankly it's not fair on my nation that tries to have a reasonable and fairly realistic military with a somewhat limited space capability. To me, having a huge amount of people in your military, like say 2% of your population and over amounts to a very costly and yet very poorly equipped army, their training, housing, pay and equippement costs would have to be really crap for a nation to afford so many soldiers, but thats just my opinion of the normal limitations. Some people want to RP with giant armies because it's cool and thats their choice, so long as they don't force such wank down my throat.

Iuthia dont think anyone could have said better, i for once supported TFU not cos i thought he was going to get dog piled but the thread looked to be a decent one (and its been along time since ive been in a decent FT RP), but oh hum

No, he is giving each one 3-4 guns.



Anyone with any sense would call it total wank.



A year aint a limited amount of time.



5% of your population being military is Wank, unexcuseable wank when they are well decently trained and moderately equiped.


1: I am giving each Marine one, maybe two guns for officers. Ther are always gonna be spares genius...

2: That's not the case, I've been RPing 5% for my entire time here, and you are one of like 3 people who has complained.

3: When you've had so little RP experience as your post count, and being unknown to myself and all the other FT RPers I know, suggests, then yes, a year really isn't a very long time at all.

4: Talk to people who use Clones about number wanking, not me boy.

Since this thread kinda died on the rp side, Einhauser and I are starting up an experimental ground war rp. If your interested in seeing how it goes, then heres a link:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=462144

You think that using 5% of your population as your military isn't total wankery?

No, not at all, especially considering that I only use my NS population for my military stats. According to my RP population 147 million persons is only 5x10^-7% of my total population.

EDIT: I was also on TFU's side.

1: I am giving each Marine one, maybe two guns for officers. Ther are always gonna be spares genius...

2: That's not the case, I've been RPing 5% for my entire time here, and you are one of like 3 people who has complained.

3: When you've had so little RP experience as your post count, and being unknown to myself and all the other FT RPers I know, suggests, then yes, a year really isn't a very long time at all.

4: Talk to people who use Clones about number wanking, not me boy.

For one, that means your economy is utter shit because that 5% isn't working in any sort of factory or being productive in any way, it is sitting there, using resource.

Also, everyone else you know could be an idiot, I don't know, maybe having 5% meant that you got owned because they have almost no training and poor equipment, or maybe you were a super invader who later got repelled, that I could fathom, otherwise it is just number wanking without regard for any sort of plot.

And I would love to know where you get the idea that because I have fewer posts *here* that I don't have posts anywhere, your inflated number could just be spam for all I know, but I don't know so I wont comment. Also I choose not to RP here for the reason of not having to deal with super star empires of DEAT by people who couldn't be assed to think about a story and not themselves.

And why would you assume I am ok with the clone wankers? If I can't tolerate yours, why would I tolerate theirs?

For one, that means your economy is utter shit because that 5% isn't working in any sort of factory or being productive in any way, it is sitting there, using resource.

Also, everyone else you know could be an idiot, I don't know, maybe having 5% meant that you got owned because they have almost no training and poor equipment, or maybe you were a super invader who later got repelled, that I could fathom, otherwise it is just number wanking without regard for any sort of plot.

And I would love to know where you get the idea that because I have fewer posts *here* that I don't have posts anywhere, your inflated number could just be spam for all I know, but I don't know so I wont comment. Also I choose not to RP here for the reason of not having to deal with super star empires of DEAT by people who couldn't be assed to think about a story and not themselves.

And why would you assume I am ok with the clone wankers? If I can't tolerate yours, why would I tolerate theirs?


You can stop right now. While its fine to champion the cause of saying anyone with a 5% military man pool wankers, its not cool to start insulting them.

And your not being asked to tolerate anything. Mini Meihm and Xess are not asking you too. Your the one who started this whole thing, so I suggest you stop it.

And again, I ask for the second time, that Euroslavia locks this thread.

No, not at all, especially considering that I only use my NS population for my military stats. According to my RP population 147 million persons is only 5x10^-7% of my total population.

EDIT: I was also on TFU's side.


Rephrase. Are you saying you have a gigantic huge RP'ed population or a very small population?

2: That's not the case, I've been RPing 5% for my entire time here, and you are one of like 3 people who has complained.
Thats because you RP with certain people and won't always use enough soldiers for such a large percentage to really need to be mentioned. Personally I concider it to be way too much for my liking and probably says alot about the quality of your soldiers, but we wouldn't RP together because frankly I don't like your attitude. Talking of which, moving on to...
3: When you've had so little RP experience as your post count, and being unknown to myself and all the other FT RPers I know, suggests, then yes, a year really isn't a very long time at all.
Post count doesn't mean shit, I don't like the way ElectronX is incisting your stuff is wank (because thats just his opinion) but I wouldn't say his post count is really any indication of his experience. That said, I've not RPed as much future technology as you guys but at least I've never drumrolled posts to get my troops into the thread before anyone reacts.
4:Talk to people who use Clones about number wanking, not me boy.
Clones are the same thing as identical twins, they are no less human then my Dad is so they would count as part of your population... but I agree that your choice to have a huge military isn't really his business, its your opponents who has left because he's tired of all the abuse he thinks he's getting.

Rephrase. Are you saying you have a gigantic huge RP'ed population or a very small population?

He's saying that he uses his NS population, and 5% of it. If you don't like it maybe you should have been there in the 70's and 80's to tell the Russians that they can't have more than 5% of their population be in the military. Now please stop posting here, your coming dangerously close to flaming.

For one, that means your economy is utter shit because that 5% isn't working in any sort of factory or being productive in any way, it is sitting there, using resource.

Also, everyone else you know could be an idiot, I don't know, maybe having 5% meant that you got owned because they have almost no training and poor equipment, or maybe you were a super invader who later got repelled, that I could fathom, otherwise it is just number wanking without regard for any sort of plot.

And I would love to know where you get the idea that because I have fewer posts *here* that I don't have posts anywhere, your inflated number could just be spam for all I know, but I don't know so I wont comment. Also I choose not to RP here for the reason of not having to deal with super star empires of DEAT by people who couldn't be assed to think about a story and not themselves.

And why would you assume I am ok with the clone wankers? If I can't tolerate yours, why would I tolerate theirs?


1: You are assuming that FT follows the same rules as MT, and that I actually need more or an equal number of people to be productive... Well, guess what, this is the FUTURE boy, one person in the Future can do the work of 3-400 in the past, due to advances in autromation and cybernetics. Also, Protoss have it even easier, because they have everything fully automated, there are no Protoss in the actual Manufacturing Field anymore, R&D, yes, Manufacturing, no.

2: People that accept my numbers are rather legion, most of the big names in FT accept that my 5% is a legitemate percentage, so, what does that say for your objection?

3: If you don't RP here, don't criticize here BOY. Almost all of my posts have either been gotten here, in II, or over on NS. Wether or not you have posts elsewhere is immaterial, evidence says that you have no idea what you are talking about.

4: Simple, you aren't annoying them, now are you genius? You wanna bug somebody, bug somebody who uses cliche and Clones, not somebody who uses semi-original Tech.

Rephrase. Are you saying you have a gigantic huge RP'ed population or a very small population?

I use my NS population for things like military stats, purchasing things and the like. For RPs my population is 1 million times larger to get the sense of scale I want for my nation.

Thus 5% military is 147 million as opposed to 147 trillion.

I use my NS population for things like military stats, purchasing things and the like. For RPs my population is 1 million times larger to get the sense of scale I want for my nation.

Thus 5% military is 147 million as opposed to 147 trillion.

*points* "What he said."

He's saying that he uses his NS population, and 5% of it. If you don't like it maybe you should have been there in the 70's and 80's to tell the Russians that they can't have more than 5% of their population be in the military. Now please stop posting here, your coming dangerously close to flaming.
You mean the nation that just recently collapsed and is still busy stewing in its own filth?

You mean the nation that just recently collapsed and is still busy stewing in its own filth?

I wouldn't call getting control of all major private oil pipelines in Asia, creating partnership agreements with both Japan and China, and upgrading its military capabilities 'still busy stewing in its own filth'.

And again, for the third time, I ask that Euroslavia, if he isn't completely busy, to Lock this thread. Its getting to close to flamming, and I'd rather it just end the suffering.

I use my NS population for things like military stats, purchasing things and the like. For RPs my population is 1 million times larger to get the sense of scale I want for my nation.

Thus 5% military is 147 million as opposed to 147 trillion.


You know, there is nothing inherently wrong with huge empires... and your is well... fucking gigantic, but it leaves me wondering as to how this contributes any to $_RP if your military can basically conquer anyone? What is the point in RPing a war if you can flick your wrist and overwhelm even the 6 billion pop nations militaries and fucking own them? What gives your military a sense of balance in the NS world?

I wouldn't call getting control of all major private oil pipelines in Asia, creating partnership agreements with both Japan and China, and upgrading its military capabilities 'still busy stewing in its own filth'.


Meah, maybe now they aren't collapsing under the weight of that 5% military that was one of the reasons that led to their eventual downfall.

(ooc: *Snip*
Mini Miehm, that stupid weapon was ignored for major wank and god mode, and you are now officially on my ignore function.
*Snip*

OOC: @The Fedral Union: Obviously you know nothing about Gundam tech. The only 'wank' thing is your ignoring it. You need to broaden your horizons, that way you will actually be able to RP with more of the good NS'ers around. If the science is sound, which MM's was, you can't ignore it and call it godmodding. That just reflects badly on yourself. So, please, try to lose the 'My way or the highway' attitude, it can really ruin good RP's.

Please note, this is only friendly advice I am offering and nothing to do with flaming. I know this stuff from experience of mine with non-NS RP's.

ElectronX, seriously dude, it's just not worth it. You have your opinion and they have theirs and as I've already said they are content with the way they do things.

I just hope everyone as learned from this and won't just blame TFU for basically doing what he always does when people dogpile him, sure he's impatient but frankly this thread started with a bad tone (baiting TFU) looked like it may have had potential before every got out of hand. Now it's important to learn how to deal with TFU if you are going to incist on attacking him, and often it's about communication and being fair.

It's scaling - If someone deploys a million soldiers, I would counter by having a force of near equivalent strength due to terrain/position.

For instance, if a million troops are marching on my fortress, my fortress would have maybe one or two thousand troops with lasers, railguns and chainguns ready for them.

If I had an army of ten thousand tanks and I'm invaded with fifty tanks, my forces will shrink to maybe sixty tanks and a few howitzers.

Remember that of a 147 million man army, maybe 140 million of them will be noncombatants.

It's scaling - If someone deploys a million soldiers, I would counter by having a force of near equivalent strength due to terrain/position.

For instance, if a million troops are marching on my fortress, my fortress would have maybe one or two thousand troops with lasers, railguns and chainguns ready for them.

If I had an army of ten thousand tanks and I'm invaded with fifty tanks, my forces will shrink to maybe sixty tanks and a few howitzers.

Remember that of a 147 million man army, maybe 140 million of them will be noncombatants.

I don't think he has a real sense of Logistics Hakurabi, and its no use anyway. He won't listen.

You know, there is nothing inherently wrong with huge empires... and your is well... fucking gigantic, but it leaves me wondering as to how this contributes any to $_RP if your military can basically conquer anyone? What is the point in RPing a war if you can flick your wrist and overwhelm even the 6 billion pop nations militaries and fucking own them? What gives your military a sense of balance in the NS world?

Tactics. Using the correct tactics, a small force can overwhelm a much larger one.

OOC: The Fedral Union - Obviously you know nothing about Gundam tech. The only 'wank' thing is your ignoring it. You need to broaden your horizons, that way you will actually be able to RP with more of the good NS'ers around. If the science is sound, which MM's was, you can't ignore it and call it godmodding. That just reflects badly on yourself. So, please, try to lose the 'My way or the highway' attitude, it can really ruin good RP's.

Frankly, having heard alot of his complaints about the thread personally I don't think it's limited to the arguement about the Gundam Wing technology, which is just as dodgy as treknology as it's all made up from real science and twisted to the fictions own ends making it about as bad as any other future technology.

No, I'm fairly sure that it was just the last straw... technically I think TFU was wrong to automatically detect them and while the stealth technology was pretty dodgy it wasn't given the chance to explain why it's hard to detect. That said, however why don't we concider the rest of the examples I could note: like the planetfall that claimed damages? or maybe the deployment that happened so fast that they were there faster then their enemies could possibly react to?

Frankly, from a thread that was designed from the start to bait him, I'm not surprised he got tired of it when others actually dog piled him. If anything I would say that TFU acted like normal while others proved to me why he acts like that... I've seen it before and it disapoints me that it still happens.

Give the guy a break, people always attack him, sometimes without reason sometimes he brings it on himself, but he never gets a break.

Tactics. Using the correct tactics, a small force can overwhelm a much larger one.

I recommend readin Sun Tzu, or Napoleon's dairies. I've found them to be useful, maybe they'll educate you a little more(?).

No, I'm fairly sure that it was just the last straw... technically I think TFU was wrong to automatically detect them and the the stealth technology was pretty dodgy but it wasn't given the chance to explain why it's hard to detect, but concidering the rest of the examples we could note: like the planetfall that claimed damages? or maybe the deployment that happened so fast that they were there faster then their enemies could possibly react to?

I prefer to call is Mobile Suit tech, since I dont use Gundams, but point noted. And I can't remember, but I think I mentioned in my post how the Specials had taken a keen interest as soon as the announcement for CP's expansion was made, and sent troops to those planets to prepare.

It might be a stretch, but they were there to just cause trouble for the ground troops and add a little flavor to the rp. And yea, I'm sorry about that whole detection thing, but I have several articles that back me up in some cases. I was just hoping he'd read the article and see the loop holes like I do.

I don't remember any planet fall though. My troops basically kep their heads down until Einhauser had landed and was content with thinking the planet was now theirs.

ElectronX, seriously dude, it's just not worth it. You have your opinion and they have theirs and as I've already said they are content with the way they do things.


Fine, at your behest I shall stop my ranting. I just cannot stand seeing a thread, even one started with malicious intentions, to be blown up due in part to massive numbers that to me atleast, seem silly.


And to SeaQuest: Granted, history is full of examples, however at some point sheer numbers with FT equipment will defeat a smaller nation with equal, even perhaps superior equipment in most cases(see Zerg bum rushs).

And yea, I'm sorry about that whole detection thing, but I have several articles that back me up in some cases. I was just hoping he'd read the article and see the loop holes like I do.

Thats more up to you to explain how it works basically in the post, not link a huge wikipedia artical and expect him to understand everything. I'm sure TFU isn't a fool, but even I would get tired of reading all that psuedo-science when I'm just looking for you. Personally I don't mind if Future Technology isn't entirely realistic so long as it's fair and mostly I would say it was his fault for just assuming he knew where they were; he thought his sensors would be good enough and typically they are... all he has to do was say he was looking with his sensors (usually they search all kinds of spectrums as standard) and then it would be up to you to say what he found, given how those things work it looks like he would have found some mech-shaped blind spots... but he didn't.

I was basing the planet-fall more on someone elses complaint... reading the post again I think either you editted out the damage after the short arguement or simply that the whole thing was taken out of preportion. So I suppose I'm probably wrong there.

Still, I feel that not enough care was taken in concidering the defender here who was TFU all along... the thread was originally made to annoy him and it looked like it was back firing before others chose to attack for reasons I can only assume are because they don't like TFU ICly. It made for a bad atmostphere and at the end of the day if someone isn't having fun they aren't likely to want to keep wasting their time on something which is just screwing them over.

I've been telling him for ages to be reasonable and patient and he tries sometimes; so I think it's important others at least treat him fairly.

You know, there is nothing inherently wrong with huge empires... and your is well... fucking gigantic, but it leaves me wondering as to how this contributes any to $_RP if your military can basically conquer anyone? What is the point in RPing a war if you can flick your wrist and overwhelm even the 6 billion pop nations militaries and fucking own them? What gives your military a sense of balance in the NS world?

I don't overwhelm people, I'm in it for the story not victory. Thus I won't deploy all 16 million troops in a Star Army unless it fits the story. And frankly if said 6 billion population is MT then I could own them with far far less than a Star Army since that my troops can withstand(if for only one shot) megajoule range weaponry and my tanks nuclear scale direct hits, I would be essentially invulnerable to any modern force.

Of course I also assume that other space opera style RPers will have equally large/powerfull militaries so I designed my military to combat those.

And again, for the third time, I ask that Euroslavia, if he isn't completely busy, to Lock this thread. Its getting to close to flamming, and I'd rather it just end the suffering.
Hard as it may be to beleive, mods don't sit around and follow all the flaming and arguments in every thread. You have to bring it to our attention. The fact that somebody asked several hours ago in #themodcave and I clicked the link out of curiousity is all that brought me here to close this out-of-control bitchfest.