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M5A1 Dayan Main Battle Tank (For Sale)

IDF
29-12-2005, 05:34
M5A1 Dayan Main Battle Tank

OVERVIEW: The IDF has learned many harsh lessons in its decades of experience in armored warfare. This tank is the result of these lessons. The M5 packs a powerful punch while maintaining the ability to withstand multiple hits from ATGMs, ATRLs, and various types of tank shells. This comes from mixing multiple types of proven armor along with new sloping techniques. The tank also has improved command and control through the addition of new technologies allowing tank commanders to get a good view without exposing their head and body to fire.
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STATS
CONTRACTOR: Israeli Defense Industries (Haifa, Israel)
WEIGHT: 62.25 tons
LENGTH: 31 feet
WIDTH: 11 feet 10 inches
HEIGHT: 7 feet 10 inches
GROUND CLEARANCE: 20 inches
GROUD PRESSURE:14.8 PSI
POWER PLANT: AGT-1500 Turbine Engine
POWER RATING: 1500 HP
HP to Weight Ratio: 24.1 HP per ton
TRANSMISSION: 4 gears forward, 2 reverse
SPEED: max: 55 mph
SPEED cross country: 32 mph
SPEED 10% slope: 20 mph
SPEED 60% slope: 5 mph
ACCELERATION: 0-20mph in 6.8 seconds
CRUISING RANGE: 275 miles
MAIN ARMAMANT: 120 mm M256 Smooth Bore Cannon
COMMANDER'S WEAPON: .50 cal M2 Machinegun
COAXIAL WEAPON: 7.62 mm M240 Machinegun
ARMOR: 600 mm Chobham Composite armor (with spacing) and reactive armor is attached to our tanks. Armor is also sloped.
CREW: 4: 1 driver, 1 gunner, 1 loader, 1 commander

WEAPONS
The Main weapon is a 120 mm cannon. This is an IDF improvement over the main cannon from the highly successful M1A2 Abrams tank. It is much larger than the 105 mm cannon mounted on the Merkava III tank that until now has been Israel's only indigenous tank. The gun has the ability to have degredation up to 10 degrees allowing the tank to hide behind a hill with only the top of its turret exposed as it looks down.

The cannon is versatile and can fire multiple types of rounds, High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT), Armor-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot (APFSDS), Armor Piercing (AP), High Explosive Squash Head (HESH), anti-personnel cluster shells, Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot (APDS), and Armour Piercing Composite Rigid (APCR). This wide weapon load makes the M5A1 a very deadly weapon on any battlefield.

The commanders gun is for use against infantry and aircraft. Traditionally, this has been operated by the commander who would be exposed to fire with the hatch open and his body out of the tank. IDI has developed a system based on the remote guns of the Stryker which allow the twin mahcine gunes to be operated by the commander while he is safely inside the tank without exposing himself to fire.

The coaxial machine gun is on the turret and is fired by the gunner using the same sights as the primary cannon.

ARMOR
The M5A1 Dayan MBT has 600 mm of composite armor. This armor is made out of alternating layers of plastics, ceramics, and depleted uranium armor. This type of army is effective against HEAT and HESH shells. The armor layers are further enhanced through the use of spacing between layers. This defeats the HEAT warheads of Anti-Tank Guided Missiles. This is done by using smaller armor sheets mounted a few inches from the main armor. The result is the HEAT shell detonates prematurely and the plasma meant to burn through the tank's armor burns through air outside of the armor instead.

-Composite armor adds 40-70% to their effective armor protection against AP and 200-250% against HEAT. Composite armor weighs about the same as the steel armor it replaces.

The tank also has layers of reactive armor installed on top of its hull. Reactive armor explodes when hit by shells or missiles. It makes the explosion of HEAT shells or ATGM warheads less efficient as much of the energy of the weapon is directed away from the tank. It should be noted that this does pose a threat to infantry in the area, but IDF Generals still want this armor to be installed as a tank with its fuel and ammo exploding due to a hit would be a greater threat to nearby infantry.

The composite armor sheets on the tank are sloped. Sloped armor has a devastating effect on the penetrating effect of shaped warheads. Think of it. While the armor may be 600 mm thick, more than 600 mm must be penetrated if that armor is at an angle. Sloped armor has also been known to deflect some shots completely. On average it degrades shaped charges by 50%.

CONTROL
Every M5A1 is equipped with radios and IVIS gear to allow individual tankers to have the best intelligence available to them allowing them to take the initiative in battle.

The Israeli Army watched closely as the Navy replaced its periscopes with Fiber Optic Masts. Tankers had long had problems of being limited due to little visibility from slits and the periscope. Tank commanders had to expose themselves by sticking their heads out of the turret to effectively command their tanks. This problem has been solved with the addition of fiber optic cameras that allow the commander to have a wide view and evern the ability to zoom in on objects all while being protected by the turret and not exposed to fire. He can also remotely operate the commander's machine gun.

BACK DOOR FEATURE
The Merkava was a successful tank. One of its best features was the rear door. This large door allows the crew to make easy escapes, and it makes the M5A1 the easiest tank to reload in the world. With its wide assortment of shells, company commanders can quickly order a tank to take a different load that is specific for its mission.

There is 1 downside. The door is not well armored so this is the M5A1's weakspot. The Israeli Army was worried about this, but studies show only 5-10% of hits are to the rear of tanks so this won't be an extremely large problem.

COST = $8 million
IDF
29-12-2005, 05:46
come on, I need some oohs and ahhs
Kahanistan
29-12-2005, 05:53
Crap, I just rebuilt my army with 23,000+ Merkava IV's.
IDF
29-12-2005, 06:00
Crap, I just rebuilt my army with 23,000+ Merkava IV's.
I'd say you are in very good shape if you have Merkavas. I took some features of the Merkava like the rear loading door.
Tarlag
29-12-2005, 06:19
I feel the same way my army uses the Merkava series of tanks. The Merkava is an outstanding tank, it may not be able to stand up to an M-1 but it does the job I want.
The Dayan seems to be an excellent piece of work. It seems to have a good mix of speed, armor and firepower. The Tarlag defense force would like to purchase 100 of the Dayans for evaluation and field testing. If the testing proves successful my government may be interested in buying the domestic production rights for this tank.
The 800 million USD will be wired apon conformation of the order.
Buben
29-12-2005, 06:40
Attn: The IDF
From: Democratic Imperium of Buben
Subject: M5A1 Dayan Main Battle Tank

Greetings IDF, we have come back to your defence contracters for the remarkable M5A1 Dayan Main Battle Tank you have just brought to the marketplace. As past buyers of Naval Equipment from you, as our nation was in its infancy, we can be certain that this will be another fine quality product from your engineers.

At this time we would like to place an order for 5,000 M5A1 DMBT units, for a total cost of $40,000,000,000.00. We can assure you this cost is no trouble for us and can pay in one outright payment as you can find through our publicly released defence figures. We at this time would also like to assure you that these weapons will be only used for the Defence of our Democratic Imperium.

We await word from your Graces about this lucrtive deal for you.

Vincent D'Agastino
Minister of Munations
Democratic Imperium of Buben
Northern Sushi
29-12-2005, 07:58
The People's Democratic Republic of Northern Sushi wishes to buy 20 of these magnificent tanks. We will pay the full $160,000,000 upon arrival of the tanks.
IDF
30-12-2005, 01:54
I feel the same way my army uses the Merkava series of tanks. The Merkava is an outstanding tank, it may not be able to stand up to an M-1 but it does the job I want.
The Dayan seems to be an excellent piece of work. It seems to have a good mix of speed, armor and firepower. The Tarlag defense force would like to purchase 100 of the Dayans for evaluation and field testing. If the testing proves successful my government may be interested in buying the domestic production rights for this tank.
The 800 million USD will be wired apon conformation of the order.We are pleased you have decided to purchase our M5A1. The tanks will be delivered via ship as soon as they are completed.
IDF
30-12-2005, 01:56
Attn: The IDF
From: Democratic Imperium of Buben
Subject: M5A1 Dayan Main Battle Tank

Greetings IDF, we have come back to your defence contracters for the remarkable M5A1 Dayan Main Battle Tank you have just brought to the marketplace. As past buyers of Naval Equipment from you, as our nation was in its infancy, we can be certain that this will be another fine quality product from your engineers.

At this time we would like to place an order for 5,000 M5A1 DMBT units, for a total cost of $40,000,000,000.00. We can assure you this cost is no trouble for us and can pay in one outright payment as you can find through our publicly released defence figures. We at this time would also like to assure you that these weapons will be only used for the Defence of our Democratic Imperium.

We await word from your Graces about this lucrtive deal for you.

Vincent D'Agastino
Minister of Munations
Democratic Imperium of Buben
To Democratic Imperium or Buben,

We are glad to confirm your order. This order can be fulfilled over 3 years. We will deliver the tanks as they are completed via sea transportation. We thank you for your continued business.

IDF
IDF
30-12-2005, 01:57
The People's Democratic Republic of Northern Sushi wishes to buy 20 of these magnificent tanks. We will pay the full $160,000,000 upon arrival of the tanks.
We are glad that you have chosen to buy the M5A1. We will deliver these tanks very soon via ship.
IDF
30-12-2005, 02:14
bump
Red Tide2
30-12-2005, 02:22
OOC:A smoothbore seems a little... weak doesnt it? Get an Electro-Thermal Chemical gun... those are MUCH more powerful then any smoothbore gun.
IDF
30-12-2005, 03:50
OOC:A smoothbore seems a little... weak doesnt it? Get an Electro-Thermal Chemical gun... those are MUCH more powerful then any smoothbore gun.
OOC: ETC guns require an extremely large power supply like a nuclear reactor. They are very feasible for warships, but it would be godmodding on a tank.
Red Tide2
30-12-2005, 03:52
OOC:Really? Because everybody else seems to be using them on tanks, including Prateonia, AMF, Sarzonia, the list goes on.
The Macabees
30-12-2005, 03:58
[OOC: Eh, the electro-thermal chemical gun has been designed for tank use; in fact, a 120mm ETC is going to replace the main gun of the M1A2 Abrams by around 2015-2017.]
IDF
30-12-2005, 03:59
OOC:Really? Because everybody else seems to be using them on tanks, including Prateonia, AMF, Sarzonia, the list goes on.
OOC: Because people are using them, it doesn't mean they are acceptable. AMF is not modern tech IIRC, he is post-mod. The thing I hate about technologies in NS is that 1 person uses them and everyone copies. No one knew what ETCs were until Freethinkers put them on ships he installed. Now everyone uses them even though they don't know a damn thing about them. I'm not bashing Freethinkers, he knows a good deal of information on ETC guns. The fact is they require large amounts of energy. A conventionally powered ship would have problems providing the power for them. A tank power plant produces very little power. There is no way that you can have an ETC gun on a tank. The only way I see that in the future is if you can make a mini-nuclear reactor that would be a Godmode for anyone RPing modern-2020.
The Macabees
30-12-2005, 04:00
[OOC: Check this (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409787) out.]
IDF
30-12-2005, 04:00
[OOC: Eh, the electro-thermal chemical gun has been designed for tank use; in fact, a 120mm ETC is going to replace the main gun of the M1A2 Abrams by around 2015-2017.]
OOC: bullshit, there is no way a tank can provide the power required for such a gun. And even if it were the case, that is not modern tech.
The Macabees
30-12-2005, 04:02
OOC: bullshit, there is no way a tank can provide the power required for such a gun. And even if it were the case, that is not modern tech.

[OOC: Then you should take your concerns to Rhinemetal, because they've already tested the prototype out. By 2017 it's supposed to have a 100% increase in effeciency over the standard smoothbore. There's no doubt that it requires more power since you have to create a plasma to ignite the chemical propellant, but it's totally feasible for a tank, and quite standard throughout NationStates. A 120mm ETC is supposed to work with a 600V battery.]
IDF
30-12-2005, 04:03
[OOC: Then you should take your concerns to Rhinemetal, because they've already tested the prototype out. By 2017 it's supposed to have a 100% increase in effeciency over the standard smoothbore. There's no doubt that it requires more power since you have to create a plasma to ignite the chemical propellant, but it's totally feasible for a tank, and quite standard throughout NationStates. A 120mm ETC is supposed to work with a 600V battery.]
OOC: I guess I missed a lot in my absense. I will probably have to develop one of those, but it won't be ready for my big event coming up. SHouldn't matter though since the likely opposition doesn't have one either.
The Macabees
30-12-2005, 04:05
OOC: I guess I missed a lot in my absense.

[OOC: Here, I have this uploaded to my server: http://modernwarstudies.net/pdf/tanks.140mm-gun.kruse.pdf]
The Macabees
30-12-2005, 04:09
[OOC: For some reason a link I gave you earlier led to my storefront. I meant this link: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=457235.]
IDF
30-12-2005, 04:13
[OOC: For some reason a link I gave you earlier led to my storefront. I meant this link: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=457235.]
OOC: I saw the slideshow. I see that ETC is possible in the future, but they do point out the technology does not exist. I'll call it borderline MT. I'll accept it when I see it. I will say IMO that if the 140 mm gun is successful, funding for ETC will be cut drastically and it won't be seen until 2025 at the earliest. It all has to do with budgets and given current conflicts, tanks aren't #1 on the R+D priority list. I have read a book you might like. It is "How to Make War" by James Dunnigan. He is a contributer to www.strategypage.com. He tends to be of the belief that 140 mm is the most likely future for tanks.
IDF
30-12-2005, 04:13
[OOC: For some reason a link I gave you earlier led to my storefront. I meant this link: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=457235.]
OOC: I saw the slideshow. I see that ETC is possible in the future, but they do point out the technology does not exist. I'll call it borderline MT. I'll accept it when I see it. I will say IMO that if the 140 mm gun is successful, funding for ETC will be cut drastically and it won't be seen until 2025 at the earliest. It all has to do with budgets and given current conflicts, tanks aren't #1 on the R+D priority list. I have read a book you might like. It is "How to Make War" by James Dunnigan. He is a contributer to www.strategypage.com. He tends to be of the belief that 140 mm is the most likely future for tanks.
IDF
30-12-2005, 04:39
bump
IDF
30-12-2005, 05:27
bump
IDF
30-12-2005, 06:11
come on, buy this tank.
IDF
30-12-2005, 17:55
bump
IDF
31-12-2005, 00:26
bump