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Sarzonian Air Force begins reclassification scheme

Sarzonia
27-12-2005, 05:01
Woodstock Daily Mail
ISAF looks to reshape logistics

AVALON (ASP) -- Expressing a desire to improve interoperability with allied air forces and following a directive from the Department of Defence, the Incorporated Sarzonian Air Force has begun a programme to reclassify all aircraft designed for the ISAF, a move that would do away with the SZ designation for all aircraft regardless of type.

The programme includes designating air superiority fighters, strike aircraft or interceptors with the letter F, such as the SZ-2 Albatross being re-designated the F-2 Albatross. Bombers, such as the recently developed SZ-22 Olympic, would be reclassified the B-22 Olympic. Helicopters, regardless of role, will be given the letter H.

"This programme should make it easier for our allies to have a better understanding of our force projection capabilities," Air Force Chief Greg Rodgers said. "With the elimination of an all-in-one designation system, we have created a system that improves logistics for us and our allies."

Among the designations that were considered but dropped from consideration were L for Logistics and Miscellaneous aircraft. The designation system also includes E for Electronics Warfare craft, A for Attack aircraft (specifically, the close in support aircraft formerly known as the SZ-8 Leapfrog), and C for Cargo. Following the tradition established by the AC-130U Spooky, the new Styx gunship carries a AC designation, the AC-35 Styx.

"We received a request from DoD to simplify things," Rodgers said. "[Former Air Force Chief Bill] Lighton was also instrumental in requesting the change. The DoD wanted to keep the S designation for munitions and Z for armoured combat vehicles."

There were unpublished reports that suggested that the ISAF would adopt a hybrid of their classification programme by adding a third letter to the SZ designation to correspond with the aircraft type. Rodgers said that option was "still on the table and if there's enough of an outcry, we'll consider it."

While most of the aircraft in the designation system are Sarzonian-built and designed, the Praetonian-built L-82 Hussar, which is designated the F-33, and the DAS 15 Tiger built by Isselmere-Nieland's Detmerian Aerospace Dynamics, which has been designated the F-36. Rodgers said the decision to give the designations to foreign-built aircraft was "an acknowledgement" of their importance in Sarzonia's efforts at reforming the air force.

"The Hussar was the aircraft that really forced us into the modern age," Rodgers said. "The Tiger was based largely on some of our other designs and it was named for our national animal. Those factors led us to incorporate those craft into our classification scheme. It's intended to honour those excellent aircraft."

The F-28, F-29, F-30, F-31, and F-32 are all Space Union-designed aircaft and will be in place for the duration of the merger agreement between Space Union National Aircraft Corporation Storefront, a move which Admiral Barbara Tucker (ISN-Ret.), the CEO of the Portland Iron Works, said will be temporary until "they can get their house in order.

"The merger agreement was intended to be temporary and our ability to incorporate these aircraft into our catalogue will be temporary as well," she said. "The Hussar and the Tiger will remain in Sarzonian air force service for the forseeable future."

Aircraft currently in ISAF service
F-1 Vulture strike fighter
F-2 Albatross air superiority fighter
F/B-3 Skyshark fighter-bomber
B-4 Warbird bomber
E-5 Snarl electronics warfare aircraft
H-6 Pegasus search and rescue helicopter
C-7 Air Scout
A-8 Leapfrog Close-in Support Fighter
F-9 Condor jump strike fighter
F-10 Sea Hound interceptor
F-11 Twin Tail air superiority fighter
F/B-12 Skysnake fighter-bomber
F/B-13 Ragnarok fighter-bomber
H-14 Scorpion multi-role attack helicopter
H-15 Dragon ASW helicopter
H-16 Catamount special operations helicopter
C-17 Galaxy cargo/troop transport
H-18 Hurricane helicopter gunship
F-19 Predator interceptor
F-20 Valkyrie strike fighter
F-21 Coronet air superiority fighter
B-22 Olympic medium bomber
F-23 Aurora scout fighter
E-24 Tyr electronics warfare craft
B-25 Archduke light bomber
F-26A Ebonhawk air superiority fighter
F-26B Strikehawk strike fighter
C-27 Saronno in flight refueller
F-28 Archangel
F-29 Liberator
F-30 Howler
F-31 Lion
F-32 Wolf
F-33 Hussar multi-role fighter
F-34 Leopard VTOL strike fighter
C-35 Styx gunship
F-36 Tiger interceptor

Note: Red refers to aircraft no longer in ISAF service; Blue refers to aircraft designed by SUNACS. Green refers to aircraft designed by foreign contractors in ISAF service. Purple refers to aircraft designed and developed with foreign contractors.
Space Union
27-12-2005, 05:07
OOC: Its kind of funny that we thought opposite on this matter. When Space Union wanted to make a new classification system, it was because it was getting its stuff confused with allies and there was possibility to have two aircrafts that have the same designation in the world, so we went with an origional concept, by adding "Su" infront of whatever the normal prefix is. Like fighters would get "SuF" while bombers would get "SuB" while attacks would get "SuA" and so on. Just a funny oddity. ;)
Sarzonia
27-12-2005, 06:07
OOC: I just think it's a little easier to have less verbiage, especially for pilots in duress. Besides, if it's absolutely necessary, I can use SZF-33. ;)
Sarzonia
27-12-2005, 08:27
*bump*
Scandavian States
27-12-2005, 08:34
[So you went with the standard NATO prefixes? Not a bad idea, considering that most people in NS follow that system. It'd be nice to see a unique system, but since your nation is a splinter of the USA, I suppose it makes sense to go with the standard system.]
Strathdonia
27-12-2005, 12:59
OOC: is NATO or is it just american? its not as if the british follow it but isntead use thier own Name-version system.

It could be worse you could ahve the Crookfur system Which uses CF(x) where x=designation letter: F for fighter, A for attack, b for bomber and U for msot other things, of coruse the navy use CN(x) but it gets a bit grey when the Fleet air arm and the airforce use the same planes with thigns generally defaaulting to CF(x) but the navys till using CN(x) internally.
Sarzonia
27-12-2005, 20:26
[So you went with the standard NATO prefixes? Not a bad idea, considering that most people in NS follow that system. It'd be nice to see a unique system, but since your nation is a splinter of the USA, I suppose it makes sense to go with the standard system.][OOC: That was why I went with the system. Primarily so that people could know at a glance what I'm sending without having to look up my aircraft storefront. It just makes it easier for people I'm RPing with to know what they're working with or up against.]
Southeastasia
29-12-2005, 05:12
OOC: I liked the original designations more. Why not simply add a letter to the original designations detailing their aircraft type?
Sarzonia
29-12-2005, 05:51
OOC: I liked the original designations more. Why not simply add a letter to the original designations detailing their aircraft type?OOC: You're the second person who's said that who immediately comes to mind (Praetonia is the other).

I'm essentially doing this for two reasons: One, so a person I'm RPing with who isn't as familiar with my country's development can know without spending excessive time what I'm fielding and two, so I can have something my pilots can say in a hurry, such as "we've got a B-22 on the way," as opposed to "we've got a SZ-22 on the way."

The unofficial third reason is I'm practicing my journalism writing skills. :p
Space Union
29-12-2005, 05:55
OOC: You're the second person who's said that who immediately comes to mind (Praetonia is the other).

I'm essentially doing this for two reasons: One, so a person I'm RPing with who isn't as familiar with my country's development can know without spending excessive time what I'm fielding and two, so I can have something my pilots can say in a hurry, such as "we've got a B-22 on the way," as opposed to "we've got a SZ-22 on the way."

The unofficial third reason is I'm practicing my journalism writing skills. :p
I say we make it even more complicated and call it the SZBomber-22. :p Complicating stuff works for the USAF. ;)
Sarzonia
30-12-2005, 18:26
I say we make it even more complicated and call it the SZBomber-22. :p Complicating stuff works for the USAF. ;)I'm not the USAF, though. ;)

Actually, MassPwnage suggested I use the SZ as sort of a prefix, ala SZB-22...