NationStates Jolt Archive

Need a high-class divorce settled?
War crime needs a ruling?
Look no farther; the International Court can rule on any case!

http://www.thewe.cc/thewei/&/images3/palestine_2004/international_court.jpe

We can rule on any case type including but not exclusive to:
NOTE: We Use U.S. law as our basis for sentences.

-Rape
-Murder
-Robbery
-War Crimes
-Genocide
-Crimes Against Humanity
-Civil Suits (person vs. person)
-Government Suits (government vs. person)
-International Suits (nation vs. nation)
-Divorce
-Family Law
-Sodomy of Government Property

CAN BE A CASE IN MT OR PMT ONLY.

Notice:
This court is looking at this time for 3 more judges to create a panel/region that tries these cases. The judges will be in a locked region in which cases are posted and then rulings submitted. If you would like to have a judge from your nation be on the panel he/she must beable to promptly rule with the others on cases and you nation must also be over 290 million in population.
OCC:Make the IC post resume like and if you are accepted you will get a TG with the region password.

Current Justices:
Chief Justice Hunter Greislov of Flightopia
Justice Lt. Gen. Don Kilinonov of Northern Sushi
Justice Patrick McAlpine of Hurfordia
Justice Artimus Owlwind of Fourhearts
Justice Taku Himura IV of Kanami
Past Cases:

Name:Type: Ruling in favor of:Northern Sushi vs. CeoranaNation vs. NationDefendent






Rules:
-Don’t submit more then one case at a time.
-All cases must be submitted or in the correct format or will be rejected.
-No OCC Posts, Can TG me if you need.
-Be Patient, don’t bug me.
-You can try to bribe me with a TG but must follow these rules:
-Can’t be a threat against my family or myself.- I retain the right to refuse offer on any basis.
-All rulings are final, no retrials, can use ONE post in the thread to RP the aftermath if you so wish.
-If it is a major case a request for a separate thread can be submitted IC.
-I will not be biased towards any party, so give a good case background so I can make a fair ruling


Format:

Example Case Submission:

Case #:045983867-073JR (9 numbers, the a -, then 3 numbers and then two letters)
Date: 12/23/2005 (mm/dd/yyyy)
Name: King Kooma vs. Queen Jamamma
Type: Divorce
Plaintiff(s): Queen Jamamma
Defendant(s): King Kooma
Plaintiff’s Argument: He had sex with his 15-year-old secretary. <---(Short example version, must be descriptive enough for fair ruling)
Defendant’s Argument: But I don’t love the secretary. <---(Short example version, must be descriptive enough for fair ruling)
Defendant has Been Notified of this Submission Before it was Submitted: [X] <---(Can’t just check, must notify defendant before submission, only is need on submission if the defendant is another nation/RPer.)
Any Odd or Special Laws In Your Country: None, we use the U.S. system.<---(Only needed if the case is in only a single nation)

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Example Case Ruling:

Case #:045983867-073JR
Date: 12/23/2005
Name: King Kooma vs. Queen Jamamma
Type: Divorce
Plaintiff: Queen Jamamma
Defendant: King Kooma
Ruling in Favor of: Plaintiff
(If there is one) Sentence/Court Order: The Queen gets 75% of the King’s property and money; King must give queen 20% of his earnings for 20 years. Also, the King will sentence to life in prison for pedophilia and child molestation.

HAVE A NICE DAY!

This is basically like drafting people. You are going to lead your nation to suicide. No one want some ICC, ever.

This court is looking at this time for 6 more judges to create a panel/region that tries these cases. The judges will be in a locked region in which cases are posted and then rulings submitted. If you would like to have a judge from your nation be on the panel he/she must beable to promptly rule with the others on cases and you nation must also be over 900 million in population.
OCC:Make the IC post resume like and if you are accepted you will get a TG with the region password.


I would do it, but don't want to move my nation. I would have a puppet do it, but I can't because I have no puppet over 900 million. I don't even have 900 million.

OCC:I changed it to the current US population.

OCC: I would do this, but I'm very active in my region and I refuse to leave it. If you could changed the region requirement I'd love to submit a Supreme Court Justice

OCC:Question is how then do we act as a unified panel, if there anouther way, I'm ALL for it. TG are not effiecent but we could go to freewebs and get a forum. I will make it, but I first want to know whaat kind of support this has.

OCC: An off-site forum would work fine, and I would think it would be cool to have the trials take place in II. (At least for high profile cases) We can simply RP a "host" country and have our various judges go there whenever we have a trial going on.

The REAL question is what nations would be willing to recognize the International Court as legitamate??

I think if we get a good panel we can be recognized/

This is the temp site for the court:
http://s14.invisionfree.com/International_Court/index.php

Otagia in no way recognizes this blatant attempt at imperialism. Further more, Otagia offers Asylum to any unfortunates tried by this criminal organization, be it on charges of petty theivery to murder to high treason. Any attempts to extradite those given asylum will be deemed an act of war, and will be met with force.

Lt. Gen. Don Kilinonov, Age 39
Jobs
Northern Sushi/New Isobar National Police Agency, 3 years experience
Northern Sushi Advanced Weapon Corps. Legal Dept., 5 years experience
Toro Police, Court Officer, 1 year experience
Private Lawyer, 1 and 1/2 years experience
Modern Law College, TA, 3 years experience

Education
Modern Law College, Honors Law Programme
NSU, Undergraduate in Political Science & Advanced Law
Capital City High, 4.0 GPA, Highest in Class

Case #:000000001-134BW (9 numbers, the a -, then 3 numbers and then two letters)
Date: 12/25/2005
Name: Northern Sushi vs. Ceorana
Type: nation v. nation
Plaintiff(s): Northern Sushi, Better World Entente
Defendant(s): Ceorana, Free Isles Alliance
Plaintiff’s Argument: Northern Sushi fairly won the regional delegate spot from an illegal interim regional delegate.
Defendant’s Argument:
Defendant has Been Notified of this Submission Before it was Submitted: Not Yet
Any Odd or Special Laws In Your Country: Yes, see link (click here) (http://s14.invisionfree.com/IoaBW/index.php?showtopic=46) and this link (the election, click here) (http://s14.invisionfree.com/IoaBW/index.php?showtopic=178&st=15), and this link (click here) (http://s14.invisionfree.com/IoaBW/index.php?showtopic=182&st=0&#last)

The results show 2 to 2 vote tie in the election, also what is the conflict between these two nations?

The results show 2 to 2 vote tie in the election, also what is the conflict between these two nations?
If you look carefully, you'll notice that Ceorana was never elected and the poll closed before the tie. The nation of Harrissy proves this point. Also, Ceorana has been notified, but has yet to comment.

Ok, sorry just checking the data, when he makes a statment, I will rule on the matter.

(Signed)
Hunter Greislov

OCC: Please register on the new court bords with your judge, thanks.

Ok, sorry just checking the data, when he makes a statment, I will rule on the matter.

(Signed)
Hunter Greislov

OCC: Please register on the new court bords with your judge, thanks.
OOC: I have registared and I T'G you some more evidence.

OCC: Thanks and again if a nation wants a representive justice there are still 5 spots available.

Hurfordia wishes to nominate a Justice for the Court;

Justice Patrick McAlpine, Age 50

Education
BA Law and Modern History, University of Kingstown
LLM Constitutional and Comparative International Law, University of Kingstown
Completed Bar exams at Sampson Law School, Ivybridge.
Called to the Bar of Devonia County, and Commonwealth Bar.

Jobs
Private Practice at "Hollins and McCartney", Portown, 10 years.
Portown District Prosecutor, 2 years.
Lectured in Commonwealth Constitutional Law at Hellas Academy, Attica, 4 years.
Special Adviser to Devonian County Parliament on Commonwealth relations and Civil Liberties.

Your application has been acceped, welcome to the world court.

OCC: Register on the bords and give your view on the case at had, on that board we discuss the cases make a ruling then post said ruling on this thread.

(Signed)
Hunter Greislov

Otagia in no way recognizes this blatant attempt at imperialism. Further more, Otagia offers Asylum to any unfortunates tried by this criminal organization, be it on charges of petty theivery to murder to high treason. Any attempts to extradite those given asylum will be deemed an act of war, and will be met with force.

It is my understanding that the IC would act as an abitrator. For the Court to work, all nations involved would have to agree to the court's ruling.

To the most esteemed nation of Flightopia,

The Kingdom of Fourhearts submits Judge Artimus Owlwind to the International Court. Judge Owlwind has had 14 years as a Supreme Court Justice, and 24 years in lower courts. He is a firm beliver in national soviernty and is a strong defender of small government.

Regards,
King Drake

Your justice application has been accepted, welcome to the world court.

OCC: To Fourhearts and Hurfordia I ask that you make a prliminary ruling/ first post on the courts forum. Just so we can get some discussion going.

THE COURT'S OFFICAL RULING:

Case #:000000001-134BW
Date: 12/25/2005
Name: Northern Sushi vs. Ceorana
Type: nation v. nation
Plaintiff(s): Northern Sushi, Better World Entente
Defendant(s): Ceorana, Free Isles Alliance
Ruling: In favor of the Defendent

Court Order:

1: That the Nation of Ceorana remain the intirum delegate until such time that the Founder can become the Delegate until new elections are held.

IF and ONLY IF the Founder does not wish to become the intirum Delegate, then Ceorana may mantain the Delegate position until elections are final.

2: Fair and Open Elections MUST be held within 2 weeks of the final ruling of this court. 1/8/2006

3. For the Elections to be Valid, a majority of both UN AND Non-UN nations within the region must vote in the election.

4. That this court highly recommends the rewriting of the current Constitution

(Drafted by Justice Artimus Owlwind of Fourhearts)


NOTE: I will be out of contact and not able to check the fourms till next Sunday. Lt. Gen. Don Kilinonov can cover for me till then. Good day.

(Signed)
Chief Justice Hunter Greislov
The Armed Republic of Flightopia

It is my understanding that the IC would act as an abitrator. For the Court to work, all nations involved would have to agree to the court's ruling.

So you thus admit that the court has no power whatsoever, for what defendant would willingly put his head in the guillotine? Any attempts to enforce decisions would obviously be ignored by the person ruled against, as both parties would have to agree to the arbitration, an event especially unlikely to occur when high-ranking government officials are on trial. Thus, Otagia is completely justified in its condemnation of such a preposterous organization.

OCC-Ness:

RL != NS. The only time this court would deal with 'criminal' cases of any sort is in II. If we ever did do anysort of warcrime, the results would be worked out between the two players beforehand. It's just a RP gimmick. It doesn't really matter that the International Court doesn't have any real power, it's NS. It's here to be part of the story.

With cases like the one we just did, all we do is offer advice. We're not the mods. If somebody wants our advice on the thing we'll give it. If it prevents a really nasty fight that tears a region a part, then that's even better.

OCC: Bump for past case change. Also, we can take anouther case, the Lt. Gen. can just post it on the court forum. I was only able to check the board becuse the holt I'm staying at for only this night has internet, I can check this till next sunday, keep me informed with TGs so I can at a glance see what happned when I was gone.

Best of luck,

(Signed)
Chief Justice Hunter Greislov
The Armed Republic of Flightopia

Name: Justice Taku Himura IV

Age: 51

Education: Masters in Law, Ph.D in Psycology, BS in Sociology
Completed School at University of Carmina Gadalica, Called to Serve on the Kanami Suprem Court by Prime Minister Tony Mako
Has severd for 16 years

Jobs: Justice on the Suprem Court
Defense Attorney at Graduation, Prosocuter at age 30, justice at 40.

Sorry to Bump but I just want to make sure you guys know I'm here, so you won't delete my account.

The Imperial Shogunate likewise refuses to acknowledge this IC as a legitimate ruling body, and will not respect any ruling laid down by it. Any one condemed by this "court" may seek refuge in our nation. Any attempts to take them from our nation will be met with stiff resistance.

OOC: ICly we'd agree with you, but due to the number of nations that despise the UN on NS and the 'sovereigntists', I'd say that you'd face some stiff resistance. Namely, from a certain Excessively Armed Empire.....

Case #:515933957-056IR
Date: 12/28/05
Name: The Helghan Empire vs. Party Land
Type: International Suit
Plaintiff(s): The Helghan Empire
Defendant(s): Party-land
Plaintiff’s Argument: Party-land has declared war on my country in the past, and then has retracted his "proposal".
Defendant’s Argument:
Defendant has Been Notified of this Submission Before it was Submitted: Not Yet
Any Odd or Special Laws In Your Country: We do not tolerate declarations of war against our country and then have the declaration retracted.

Case #:515933957-056IR
Date: 12/28/05
Name: The Helghan Empire vs. Party Land
Type: International Suit
Plaintiff(s): The Helghan Empire
Defendant(s): Party-land
Plaintiff’s Argument: Party-land has declared war on my country in the past, and then has retracted his "proposal".
Defendant’s Argument:
Defendant has Been Notified of this Submission Before it was Submitted: Not Yet
Any Odd or Special Laws In Your Country: We do not tolerate declarations of war against our country and then have the declaration retracted.

OOC: Does it matter if they were in a "funny mood" when they declared war on us? I don't think it should matter. You control your actions no matter what.

The case has been taken.

OOC: ICly we'd agree with you, but due to the number of nations that despise the UN on NS and the 'sovereigntists', I'd say that you'd face some stiff resistance. Namely, from a certain Excessively Armed Empire.....

OCC: What's really interesting is that Fourhearts IS a Sovereignist. If a case ever comes up where it even came close to a NatSov issue, Fourhearts would argue on the side of NatSov, saying the Court only serves to abritrate disputes and doesn't have the authority to force somebody to do something.

For Example, war crimes in RL fall under the Geneva Convention. In NS, there is no Geneva Convention, but simply a collection of UN laws. If a nation is not part of the UN, then there is no international law to charge a potential defendent with. They would be unable to break a law that thier nation does not recognize. Thus in the case of AMF, if their opponets had used wmds, then thier laws authorize them to resort to killing civialians. This would certainly be a war crime by the Geneva Convention. However, if the case landed in International Court, Fourhearts would agrue that the AMF solider didn't break any laws because AMF clearly does not recoginize any international treaty that would forbid them from doing so.

The only way I forsee the IC actaully doing a "war crimes" trial is if both players agreed to it. Perhaps part of a "bad guy turning good" plot twist.

OOC: By 'sovereigntist', I mean those radically anti-UN states (not neccessarily residing in Gatesville, IIRC, it's the supreme, chief, super-super-bastion of super-super-bastions of anti UN nations. BTW, how old are you Fourhearts, I'm 14. And did you receive my TG?

OCC: Ok I'm back from Utah and Sun Valley, must say Dear Valley has great skiing, but on to other matters. The justice from Kunami has been accepted, also I have retanken control of the court.

(Signed)

Chief Justice Hunter Grieslov

The case has been taken.
I have notified Party-land. Am I to join that offsite forum?

OCC: NO, only justices are allowed on that forum.

OOC: By 'sovereigntist', I mean those radically anti-UN states (not neccessarily residing in Gatesville, IIRC, it's the supreme, chief, super-super-bastion of super-super-bastions of anti UN nations. BTW, how old are you Fourhearts, I'm 14. And did you receive my TG?

Sorry, over the rush of the holidays I didn't get a chance to answer. I'm a 22 year old Political science major. I also don't need any IFV since Fourhearts uses the Bradley IFV.

OOC: I mean to say, upgrade to more NS standards. That's what I'm planning to do, decommission all my RL tech and polish it up to more NS grade weaponry.

New case that was TGed to me:


Case #:31543817-056NC
Date: 1/04/06
Name: The Republic vs. The Soviet Leaders
Type: Crimes Against Humanity
Plaintiff(s): The Republic of Kanami, The Principality of Kurona
Defendant(s): Soviet Leaders
Plaintiff’s Argument: A costly missal strike, against a civilian population has led to the death of many. The Death Toll continues to climb, from 16,000 and the nation is struggling, to recover. This is a definite crime against humanity.
Defendant’s Argument:
A. Never order a nuclear strike or any attack against Kurona
B. We were going to aid them because we could see that the missile was one of ours and we have been attacked with Nukes before and know there deadly power that is way the council has to vote 100% for a lunch to be ordered
C. There was a nuclear strike on our land and a message sent to us from Kurona telling us about the strike and that it was payback for the attacks.
D. We have lost contact with 1 of our Red October class subs we believe that the sub named Glavakech is the one that might of fired at us. But we don't have any information to back this up we Know that the sub captin that would of been put on trial for the actions is dead so we think that Glavakech might of done this.

Case has been taken, justices check the offsite fourm.