NationStates Jolt Archive

Ok well Im just beginning this so its here. Im going to place rules and regulations, at least 10 galaxy maps, limitations for claims and such. This is basicly an earth for FT nations. I'm going to need help though cause i`ll be making most of everything so If you want to make a galatic map and name it GO AHEAD. You wont gain extra claims or anything it`ll just be a nice jester. So 'Tag' this if your interested cause im not going to do it if no one is interested.

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Why not I'm really bored right now and I just started FT

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Im interested, i tryed something like this befor never took off tho....but meh im still interested.

As soon as I get around 10-15 people interested i`ll make it. I know two other people who will join so thats at least 4.

Make that five.

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Why not I'm really bored right now and I just started FT

What he said.

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Why not I'm really bored right now and I just started FT

Thirded

Make that 8

I'm reasonably interested, either as myself or as Otagia, but do we really need a galaxy each? A single one would do, people seriously underestimate the size of these things. You have hundreds of billions of stars in the Milky Way, why in god's name would people want that much territory? That, and without instant FTL, it'd take years to get between two CLOSE galaxies.

The multiple galaxy's are to accomodate the mutiple planets nations will be taking. Also i`ll be making a new thread for this, this one was to see how interested people were in this....but the question is should I make it a universe with one planet to each nation or a galaxy with multiple nations to one planet.

How about a galaxy with one nation to a planet? There's TRILLIONS of planets in the galaxy, surely there's plenty for all of us?

All I know is that the Trivazi Union encompasses the entire Vai System, so we're definately getting multiple planets.

alright well i`ll go with a galaxy, im making a map right now and will be done next week cause of the holidays. Sorry gotta make time for family and all. So we can continue this maybe monday?

[Have fun with this in II, but I wouldn't go anywhere near the NS forum claiming you have Mars or Alpha Centauri or Ribos or something of the such. You'll get eaten by Siri and Melkor and the other fella's that've been here since before you were born.]

Claiming a whole galaxy is just insane.

How would you defend it against anyone if you have to spread yourself out to cover every possible invasion route.

There are more inhabitable planets in a single sector than all the populations of every nation that signed up so far. You could place a single person on each planet as a warning network but then there would be no population growh possible.

Personally I feel the largest you should be is a couple dozen planets. That makes a huge amount of space to defend.


Also, I hope this isn't the latest trend, creating multiple universes like the Earth 2, 3, 4, 5, ect... insanity that went on.

I messed up on the name, when the planning is done its just going to be a galaxy. No one nation is going to be able to claim an entire galaxy. Claims are going to be limited and the highest amount of claims given in the beginning will be at least 4 planets. This is not real life stuff, its all made of systems and the galaxy itsself is basicly made up. BUT the galaxy will be open to people who are in it, un-like the earths. This way people can have trade routes with non-galatic nations. The only diffrence with this from an alliance is its all within one galaxy and all nations converge and such in this galaxy. If this doesn`t make sence, which it kinda doesn`t to me, then tell me so I can explain it better....hopefully.

emm......why 1 planet per nation? my nation controls (and would in this) 19 systems with 12 populated (with 4 of the populated planets as an earth like world. 1 planet (the homeworld) with 1 billion in population, the other 3 with 666 million adv. population and the other 8 worlds being more mars like worlds with 195 million adv. population that are being terraformed), the other 7 systems are unpopulated system with some form of stations, mining etc etc.


No offence but im not joining something that says i can only have 1 world, it blows away most of the point to my space navy, Colonial marines, my nation as a hole and history.

In my eyes ive always seen it as this:-

Colony:- 10 million (the smallest amount needed for a decent self running world)
Minor system:- 100-200 million (100 million smallest per planet)
Major system:- 400+ million
Home system:- (largest poportion of population)

so if your a nation of 500 million you could have:-

2 minor systems of say 100 million each
home system of say 300 million

or

10 colonies (maby spreed across 5 systems) (100 million)
1 minor system of say 100 million
home system off say 300 million

How about a galaxy with one nation to a planet? There's TRILLIONS of planets in the galaxy, surely there's plenty for all of us?

Yes, but not all those planets are habitable.

Yes, but not all those planets are habitable.

I know, i`ve thought about this for awhile and decided that any nation who claimed these type of planets will have to also know how to habitate them, I dont controle other nations ways of dealing with these types of things. Once I create the real thread you can read rules about this. These types of planets can also be used for gravitation reasons, large uninhabitable planets can be used as weapons, or they can be used just to expand the nations empire or controle of planets...but you did bring up a nice question im sure people were wondering. I hope this is a nice answer.

I know, i`ve thought about this for awhile and decided that any nation who claimed these type of planets will have to also know how to habitate them, I dont controle other nations ways of dealing with these types of things. Once I create the real thread you can read rules about this. These types of planets can also be used for gravitation reasons, large uninhabitable planets can be used as weapons, or they can be used just to expand the nations empire or controle of planets...but you did bring up a nice question im sure people were wondering. I hope this is a nice answer.

Then there are the nations that are ship based (ie, home system is a starship (Similar to the Battlestar Galactica thing)).

I'd like to join up. Since presumbly it takes place in the future, I don't see how it can hurt my nation.

emm......why 1 planet per nation? my nation controls (and would in this) 19 systems with 12 populated (with 4 of the populated planets as an earth like world. 1 planet (the homeworld) with 1 billion in population, the other 3 with 666 million adv. population and the other 8 worlds being more mars like worlds with 195 million adv. population that are being terraformed), the other 7 systems are unpopulated system with some form of stations, mining etc etc.


No offence but im not joining something that says i can only have 1 world, it blows away most of the point to my space navy, Colonial marines, my nation as a hole and history.

In my eyes ive always seen it as this:-

Colony:- 10 million (the smallest amount needed for a decent self running world)
Minor system:- 100-200 million (100 million smallest per planet)
Major system:- 400+ million
Home system:- (largest poportion of population)

so if your a nation of 500 million you could have:-

2 minor systems of say 100 million each
home system of say 300 million

or

10 colonies (maby spreed across 5 systems) (100 million)
1 minor system of say 100 million
home system off say 300 million

Almost missed your post...sorry anyway I like the point you brought up...I was extremly sleepy yesterday so most of the things I said didn`t make sence or were just jiberish. But I suppose what I was trying to get at was that noobie nations with 500 Mill or less pop. are given only one planet (Their Homeworld) Other nations with higher population can controle more then one planet Such as nations 500Mill.-1Bill. can controle 1 Homeworld planet, 1-3 habitable planets or 1-3 inhabitable planets(Of cource more people are going to go after the habitable planets but by chooseing inhabitable planets they can controle a section of a system or maybe the entire system depending on the systems size)

Major and Minor systems are going to be labeled not by size but by location. The smallest systems can have the greatest trade route locations and such. So as soon as I get rules up trust me this will make A LOT more sence.

I was wondering to anyone who might participate if we should do what the Past tech earth did and instead of divide population multiply it so smaller nations can actually populate their planet. Would this idea be good?

Almost missed your post...sorry anyway I like the point you brought up...I was extremly sleepy yesterday so most of the things I said didn`t make sence or were just jiberish. But I suppose what I was trying to get at was that noobie nations with 500 Mill or less pop. are given only one planet (Their Homeworld) Other nations with higher population can controle more then one planet Such as nations 500Mill.-1Bill. can controle 1 Homeworld planet, 1-3 habitable planets or 1-3 inhabitable planets(Of cource more people are going to go after the habitable planets but by chooseing inhabitable planets they can controle a section of a system or maybe the entire system depending on the systems size)

Major and Minor systems are going to be labeled not by size but by location. The smallest systems can have the greatest trade route locations and such. So as soon as I get rules up trust me this will make A LOT more sence.

I was wondering to anyone who might participate if we should do what the Past tech earth did and instead of divide population multiply it so smaller nations can actually populate their planet. Would this idea be good?Yep, good idea.

Then there are the nations that are ship based (ie, home system is a starship (Similar to the Battlestar Galactica thing)).

What about nations that utilize this format?

Almost missed your post...sorry anyway I like the point you brought up...I was extremly sleepy yesterday so most of the things I said didn`t make sence or were just jiberish. But I suppose what I was trying to get at was that noobie nations with 500 Mill or less pop. are given only one planet (Their Homeworld) Other nations with higher population can controle more then one planet Such as nations 500Mill.-1Bill. can controle 1 Homeworld planet, 1-3 habitable planets or 1-3 inhabitable planets(Of cource more people are going to go after the habitable planets but by chooseing inhabitable planets they can controle a section of a system or maybe the entire system depending on the systems size)

Major and Minor systems are going to be labeled not by size but by location. The smallest systems can have the greatest trade route locations and such. So as soon as I get rules up trust me this will make A LOT more sence.

I was wondering to anyone who might participate if we should do what the Past tech earth did and instead of divide population multiply it so smaller nations can actually populate their planet. Would this idea be good?


Well no thats a bad idea, 1 most people who do FT do it since there are few rules (thats where i went wrong when i tryed to do this), 2 with the rate of the incress in population it would take months (real time) for someone whos only say 100 million to reach the 1 billion mark to have another planet (and by that time would lose interest)

Minor and major systems, that was population based. Trade would be based on what each system has to offer, newer systems would more then likely to offer things like ores. This can be good but can also be bad tho the main import for minor systems would be food stuffs and other basics.

Also un-inhabbitable worlds can be turned into a habbitable world by terraforming.

Also theres no point putting a rule that says "you can only have 5 planets with people on, 2 that can support life and an astroid at 1 billion population" since well most FT rpers have systems.
I myself dont agree on such rules, there pointless and dumb down the free form of the rping and well....are just a shit idea.

The best way to do it is as i put forwards, a minium for Colonies that can be self-seffict and then population range for each kind of system, remember that each system may have more then one world and inturn you have internal trade (whats more useful then external trade).

Yes, but not all those planets are habitable.
Fine, millions, if not billions of habitable planets. Then we have to factor in terraforming, habitats, variant physiologies, etc. Pretty much anything can sustain life, from a super-giant such as Jupiter to a frozen rock such as Pluto. Just need a proper application of technology.

I shall be helping my friend Nerotika with the mathematics of claiming.

I do not want this to turn into an Earth in which people go around claiming land, thinking the more soil you own the bigger your cock is.

Me and Nerotika will discuss this in person on Monday. So all of you go have a Happy Holidays, and when you get back me and Nerotika may have everything sat up.

Fine, millions, if not billions of habitable planets. Then we have to factor in terraforming, habitats, variant physiologies, etc. Pretty much anything can sustain life, from a super-giant such as Jupiter to a frozen rock such as Pluto. Just need a proper application of technology.

Or have a non-humanoid life-form.

I shall be helping my friend Nerotika with the mathematics of claiming.

I do not want this to turn into an Earth in which people go around claiming land, thinking the more soil you own the bigger your cock is.

Me and Nerotika will discuss this in person on Monday. So all of you go have a Happy Holidays, and when you get back me and Nerotika may have everything sat up.

Okay, cool.

Alright, thnx psychotika for posting (Took long enough lol) anyway CorpSac, you bring up many point that I will have to address, monday everything will be fully set up so im glad to get any errors or things people may not like about this out of the way. Also SeaQuest, the ship based idea is good but If anyone is to do they shouldn`t there be a reason for them to only have life on a ship. So to any nation that might utilize a ship based living style, Please RP how you got that way unless you already have it rped out.

AND as I said before CorpSac I am not going to interfear with any other nations way of terraforming a planet, even if its non-sencecle (Incorrect Spelling) And also im glad your helping (whether you`ll be in it or not) its actually giving me alot of idea's that i`ll place in the rules.

emm......why 1 planet per nation? my nation controls (and would in this) 19 systems with 12 populated (with 4 of the populated planets as an earth like world. 1 planet (the homeworld) with 1 billion in population, the other 3 with 666 million adv. population and the other 8 worlds being more mars like worlds with 195 million adv. population that are being terraformed), the other 7 systems are unpopulated system with some form of stations, mining etc etc.


No offence but im not joining something that says i can only have 1 world, it blows away most of the point to my space navy, Colonial marines, my nation as a hole and history.

In my eyes ive always seen it as this:-

Colony:- 10 million (the smallest amount needed for a decent self running world)
Minor system:- 100-200 million (100 million smallest per planet)
Major system:- 400+ million
Home system:- (largest poportion of population)

so if your a nation of 500 million you could have:-

2 minor systems of say 100 million each
home system of say 300 million

or

10 colonies (maby spreed across 5 systems) (100 million)
1 minor system of say 100 million
home system off say 300 million

I'll only join under 2 conditions:
1) We use this system or one like it
2) This is an off-site program.

I remember my 'Planets'. It was a FT Earth-style thing. It lived for a while. Then it died.

By off site program do you mean off jolt? Cause what I was intending on doing was making a forum just for this so people in it can discuss there own matters. It would be nice to have some threads on jolt I guess to kinda advertise this, but most threads will be on the other forum. (Is this what you were talking about Green Sun?)

The claims will be a bit diffrent but pretty similar. Some of what he said i`ll use but then there are also nations that want to have a ship based world, A.K.A. a colony. So I hope it doesn`t dissapoint anyone.

Yeah, that's good. Like Invision or something like that, I might still have some stuff from Planets I you can use for the forums.

Erm, I'll tag here, and I'll try to join in.

I'll think about joining with one (its going to be hard to pick which one) of my nations.

This sounds very interesting. I'll be joining in when you get everything up and running

em....the idea of it being off site is not always a good one, since its off site not meny people see the RPs and therfor interest doesnt grow and sooner or later people get bord and stop posting. On the other hand things that are on site seem rather popular.

Besides Green Sun what makes you so important that you think you can demand this that and the other.

I'm interested

So, 1 planet...I can deal with that