NationStates Jolt Archive

This is the thread for all the Union Generals in the USCW RP

This is where you will find out what Regiments and brigades you command and their approximate strength. (Sorry if I'm slow assigning troops to your army, there were over 4000 union Regiments throughout the war)

This is for IC Posts only, all OOC posts belong in the Signup thread.

Major Union Armies

General of All Union Armies
Major General George B. McClellan
ARMY OF THE POTOMAC
Major General John F. Reynolds (yes you got promoted again
ARMY OF OHIO
Major General Winfield Scott Hancock
ARMY OF KANSAS
Brigadier General John Buford (Again recently Promoted)
ARMY OF THE MISSISSIPPI
Major General William Tecumseh Sherman


OOC:more to come

John F. Reynolds was recently promoted to Brigadier Colonel following the disaster at Bull Run and the subsequent reorginization of the Union Army. Before now he has had command of the 14th US Infantry. He looks forward to command.

ATTENTION: There is now a password on the Union Chatzy. TG me for it.

Major General Reynolds has begun reorganizing the Army o the Potomac, establishing comraderie between the men, bringing in the supplies, and whipping the men back into fighting shape to raise morale. Pickets have been established along the banks of the Potomac and fortifications are being raised to protect Washington DC.

There is a slight hickup in our plans, as Rodenka forgot to give ME the password, so uhhh, don't bother asking me for it since i don't have it.

His appointment to general of all Union armies in hand, George McClellan was hard at work. After the debacle at Bull Run, he had a lot of work to do. By day he met with other generals and the President himself, and in his spare time aided General Reynolds in his rebuilding of the Army of the Potomac. By night he locked himself in his chambers, looking over maps of the Confederacy, planning grand stratagems to defeat the Rebels. He felt that it would all pay off when the Rebels sued for peace within months.

General John Buford, newly made Brigadier, pored over a map in his tent. The air was warm in the hot July of Kansas. He stood to get some fresh air. Heading outside, he noticed that the air outside the tent was a little cooler than inside. He surveyed the camp of his "Army of Kansas." A division of infantry and a brigade of cavalry, it totaled around seventy-five hundred men. Hardly an army. And now his superiors wanted him to cross into Texas.

A moment passed, and Buford returned to the tent and the maps. He had work to do.

Just a reminder that "official time" starts today at 12:00 noon (EST).

so... when will orders be given out?

i don't have the pword to the chatzy... anyway i can get it?

You have to telegram CoC in NationStates and ask him for it.

Since the defeat at Bull Run John Pope wanted revenge. He looked at the landscape of Missiouri. He was the head of this area. John wanted to give hell to those damn rebs. John hoped that they were ready for hell because they were about to get some. But he still had to wait for orders from George B. McClellan.

Union Army Order of Battle

OOC: myself and manarth agreed to work with brigades instead of regiments as the only way to keep us sane, may not be entirely historically accurate, but we're doing this for gameplay
ARMY of the Potomac
Major General John Reynold

Infantry
I. Corps
1st New York
1st Maine
1st Connecticut
1st Ohio
3rd Maryland
2nd Pennsylvania
2nd New York
1st New Jersey
1st Rhode Island

II Corps

1st Michigan
3rd New York
2nd Maine
2nd Massachuesetts
2nd New Jersey
3rd Pennsylvania
1st Pennsylvania
1st California
4th New York

III Corps

1st Maryland
2nd Rhode Island
5th New York
4th Pennsylvania
3rd Massachuesetts
1st Massachuesetts
The Irish Brigade
2nd Maryland
1st Washington DC Brigade

IV Corps
2nd Ohio
2nd Michigan
6th New York
5th Pennsylvania
4th New Jersey
3rd New Jersey
2nd Connecticut
2nd Rhode Island
6th Pennsylvania

V. Corps
3rd Ohio
3rd Michigan
5th New Jersey
1st Indiana
2nd Illinois
1st Wisconsin
4th Massachuesetts
7th New York
7th Pennsylvania

VI. Corps
8th United States
8th Pennsylvania
6th New Jersey
4th Maryland
1st Delaware
3rd Connecticut
4th Connecticut
5th Massachuesetts
9th United States

Cavalry
1st New York Cavalry
2nd New York Cavalry
1st Ohio Cavalry
1st Michigan Cavalry
2nd Ohio Cavalry

Army of Ohio
Major General Winfield Scott Hancock

I Corps

4th Ohio
5th Ohio
4th Michigan
1st Illinois
2nd Indiana
3rd Illinois
5th Michigan
2nd Wisconsin
3rd Wisconsin

II Corps

2nd California
6th Ohio
6th Michigan
4th Illinois
5th Illinois
6th Illinois
3rd Indiana
1st United States
2nd United States

2nd Division US Infantry

3rd United States
4th United STates

Cavalry
1st Illinois Cavalry
1st Indiana Cavalry
1st Pennsylvania Cavalry

Army Of Mississippi/Missouri
General William Tecumseh Sherman
I Corps

1st Kansas
1st Nebraska
1st Minnesota
3rd California
1st Iowa
4th Wisconsin
1st Missouri
7th Illinois
4th Indiana

II Corps

2nd Minnesota
5th United States
3rd Minnesota
2nd Iowa
2nd Missouri
5th Indiana
7th Ohio
7th Michigan
6th United States

5th Division
4th Iowa
4th Minnesota

6th Division
3rd Iowa
7th United States

Cavalry
1st Missouri
2nd Indiana

Army of Kansas
Brigadier General John Buford

1st United States Cavalry
2nd United States Cavalry
3rd United States Cavalry

General Reynolds ahs ordered the 1st Michigan and !st Ohio Cavalry across the Potomac to conduct reconiassance and raids of the rebel lines. If faced by a superior force, they will withdraw across the river to friendly lines.

In addition, General Reynolds has set about constructing several large fortresses to guard the road to Washington DC. They will be garrisoned mainly by artillery and infantry.

Sorry, but I'm still a little bit uncertain... Is the maneuvering supposed to be posted here by us and on the Confederate thread by them? Or will there be separate threads for different fronts or something?

Another thing - I have apparently 24 regiments, and you mentioned earlier I'd have about 45,000 men. Am I anywhere near when I suppose the regiments contain about 1500 men each?

Sorry, but I'm still a little bit uncertain... Is the maneuvering supposed to be posted here by us and on the Confederate thread by them? Or will there be separate threads for different fronts or something?

Another thing - I have apparently 24 regiments, and you mentioned earlier I'd have about 45,000 men. Am I anywhere near when I suppose the regiments contain about 1500 men each?

those are BRIGADES not regiments


sorry but each brigade would probably have at least 5 regiments. So yeah, I'm not going into THAT much detail. I'll go insane.


Now keep in mind you've got a large share of the Regular US Army Infantry from before the war. They are better trained, led and equipped.


Yeeh go ahead and post movements here.

Major General John P. Hatch reporting to the Army of the Potomac to Major General John Reynold for duty, I am ready and awaiting orders...

Grant takes command of the II Corps and immediately organizes them into divisions and begins drilling them hard. He splits the Illinois brigades up, so that if a division is hard hit, the casualties won't fall disproportionally on one state.

Using his 2 brigades of regulars as a cadre for 2 of the divisions, he also reassigns a few of the Regular officers and NCOs to the volunteer regiments and brigades to provide some experience to them. His 3rd division he personally spends the most time with, as it consists entirely of volunteers. Orders were expected any day now, and he wanted to make sure his men were ready.

He missed his wife terribly, but for the first time since Mexico he felt he wasn't just adrift. Grant made damn sure he was busy too, he knew the price of loneliness and depression. It was the bottle. Keeping busy would keep that bottle away.

II Corps
2nd California
6th Ohio
6th Michigan
4th Illinois
5th Illinois
6th Illinois
3rd Indiana
1st United States
2nd United States

Organized into 4 divisions and 1 brigade
1st Division / II Corps w 2nd California, 6th Illinois, 1st US Brigades
2nd Division / II Corps w 6th Ohio, 5th Illinois, 2nd US Brigades
3rd Division / II Corps w 6th Michigan, 4th Illinois, 3rd Indiana Brigades
4th Division / II Corps
1st Illinois Cavalry brigade


OOC
Some opinions and background on Grant
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/culture/articles/040802/2grant_2.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_S._Grant#Mexican_War

George McClellan looked down at his maps of the US. He had the position of the Union armies in Blue, and the position of known Confederate forces in red.

"Yes, that should work," he muttered as he drew a blue line from one point to another.

A smile lit up his face as he looked at his map. It was perfect. The Union master plan to crush the south.

He went out to have a conference with General Reynolds, the only other member of the top Union staff in Washington at the time.

Reynoldswas enjoying a cup of coffee at his headquarters, a large wall tent on the outskirts of Washington. So far things had been shaping up nicely, especially with Grant's reorginization of his corps and the hard drilling the entire Army had been doing lately. In fact, he had liked Grant's model so much that he had ordered the entire army organized as such. He also offered up thanks to God for the engineers. They had helped immensly with his fortifications. Orderlies bustled back and forth, carrying dispatches and orders hither nad yon. He heard the clopping of hooves and the guard outside snapped to attention. Reynolds stepped outside, somewhat suprised to see General McClellan dismounting from his horse. He gave a salute before speaking,

"Morning, General. What can I do for you?"

McClellan dismounted, and walked into Reynolds’s tent.

"Good Morning. I was just coming in to check how the preparations have been going. I just received a letter from Sherman on his army's status, and have sent letters to the other army commanders requesting that information. I think that it would be best to launch multiple attacks on the Rebels around the same time, to keep the various armies from reinforcing each other.

I was also wondering what information you have received from the cavalry you sent out to reconnoiter the enemy positions.”

Reynolds walked back into his tent, listening to McClellan. "I haven't had anything back from them yet. I espet a courier in a day or two though..Would you like some coffee, sir?"

Grant takes command of the II Corps and immediately organizes them into brigades and begins drilling them hard. He splits the Illinois regiments up, so that if a brigade is hard hit, the casualties won't fall disproportionally on one state.

Using his 2 regiments of regulars as a cadre for 2 of the brigades, he also reassigns a few of the Regular officers and NCOs to the volunteer regiments to provide some experience to them. His 3rd brigade he personally spends the most time with, as it consists entirely of volunteers. Orders were expected any day now, and he wanted to make sure his men were ready.

He missed his wife terribly, but for the first time since Mexico he felt he wasn't just adrift. Grant made damn sure he was busy too, he knew the price of loneliness and depression. It was the bottle. Keeping busy would keep that bottle away.

II Corps
2nd California
6th Ohio
6th Michigan
4th Illinois
5th Illinois
6th Illinois
3rd Indiana
1st United States
2nd United States

Organized into 3 brigades
1st Brigade / II Corps w 2nd California, 6th Illinois, 1st US
2nd Brigade / II Corps w 6th Ohio, 5th Illinois, 2nd US
3rd Brigade / II Corps w 6th Michigan, 4th Illinois, 3rd Indiana

Grant requests the US 4th Infantry (his old regiment) and the 21st Illinois (which he trained and formed) if possible and is willing to trade 2 of his current regiments for them.

OOC
Some opinions and background on Grant
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/culture/articles/040802/2grant_2.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_S._Grant#Mexican_War


these are already brigades. You could make them divisions.

Consider the US 4th Infantry Regiment part of 1st US Infantry Brigade and the 21st Illinois part of the 4th Illinois Brigade.


Actually if i was organizing by regiment instead of by brigade, thats where they would be

these are already brigades. You could make them divisions.

Consider the US 4th Infantry Regiment part of 1st US Infantry Brigade and the 21st Illinois part of the 4th Illinois Brigade.


Actually if i was organizing by regiment instead of by brigade, thats where they would be

I wasn't clear on that... I will adjust accordingly

"Thank you. By the way, I looked at some of your plans for the Washington fortifications. They are brilliant."

I wasn't clear on that... I will adjust accordingly


General Grant

It has come to my attention that you intend to move into Virginia and if General Hancock has not already done so I'm releasing 2nd US Infantry Division to your command as well as the 1st Illinois Cavalry Brigade. And General please bear in mind that the people in these counties of Western Viriginia wish to remain loyal to our Union so please treat them with the upmost respect.


Abraham Lincoln
President, USA


OOC: I won't do this very often, but if i see something that needs to be helped I will step in. But for the most part I want my Generals to run the war. Oh and we are going by brigades instead of Regiment for sanity's sake. Kinda like why you went by Corps instead of Divisions in E20, i'm sure you understand.

John Pope had just gained the control of the II Corps of the Mississippi Army now he had the
2nd Minnesota
5th United States
3rd Minnesota
2nd Iowa
2nd Missouri
5th Indiana
7th Ohio
7th Michigan
6th United States
under his command he could not wait until the fighting started.

Grant upon receipt of orders gets his troops moving. Not willing to wait and figuring the railroads would bring the reinforcements to him soon enough, he ordered an advance. Moving out of Cambridge (Ohio), the II Corps moved quickly on Wheeling and then down to Morgontown, securing rail links west from Pittsburgh and the West Virginia panhandle (occ as it is known now).

As the 4th Division and cavalry arrived, Grant ordered the Cavalry south toward Charlestown and the infantry advanced to secure Fairmont/Grafton area. The Cavalry brigade had orders to push forward until the enemy was encountered, while the 1st, 2nd and 4th divisions followed behind and the 3rd division held the triangle and ensured the supply route to Pittsburgh remained secure.

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/us_2001/west_virginia_ref_2001.jpg

somewhere ahead were the Rebels, in unknown strength.

II Corps
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10108734&postcount=18

Organanization of the Army of Ohio

I Corp
1st Division
-4th Ohio
-5th Ohio
-4th Michigan
2nd Division
-1st Illinois
-2nd Indiana
-3rd Illinois
3rd Division
-5th Michigan
-2nd Wisconsin
-3rd Wisconsin


1st Cavalry Divison
-1st Indiana Cavalry
-1st Pennsylvania Cavalry

Hancock had decided to move. I Corp, the Army of Ohio, began it's march from Colombus, heading towards the Virginian border. Hancock deployed the 1st Indiana cavalry ahead and to his flanks, searching out any enemy pickets.

By the time Grant was occupying Morgantown, the 2nd Division was moving into Gallipolis, preparing for the plunge into enemy territory. Behind them snaked the blue lines of the 1st Divsion, and 3rd Divison of the I Corp. Behind them was the rearguard, the 1st Pennsylvania Cavalry.

Message dispatched to Gen. Grant

Gen. Grant,
It is my wish that the two corps of the Army of Ohio concentrate on Charleston at the earliest possible time, in order to exert the greatest possible pressure on the Rebels.
Gen. W.S Hancock, Army of Ohio, Commanding

Grant upon receipt of orders gets his troops moving. Not willing to wait and figuring the railroads would bring the reinforcements to him soon enough, he ordered an advance. Moving out of Cambridge (Ohio), the II Corps moved quickly on Wheeling and then down to Morgontown, securing rail links west from Pittsburgh and the West Virginia panhandle (occ as it is known now).

As the 4th Division and cavalry arrived, Grant ordered the Cavalry south toward Charlestown and the infantry advanced to secure Fairmont/Grafton area. The Cavalry brigade had orders to push forward until the enemy was encountered, while the 1st, 2nd and 4th divisions followed behind and the 3rd division held the triangle and ensured the supply route to Pittsburgh remained secure.

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/us_2001/west_virginia_ref_2001.jpg

somewhere ahead were the Rebels, in unknown strength.

II Corps
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10108734&postcount=18


OOC: lol thats some rough terrain, I can tell you from firsthand experience, when flooding happened in Belmont County in Ohio in september 2004 and they called in the Guard, guess who went, me. So I spent 9 days driving Humvees around floodravaged areas. Ya know its kinda funny watching a humvee slow to 15mph to get up a hill, I had the bitch floored but the hills were that steep. St. Clairesville isn't a bad town, wouldn't want to go back though. So yeah the point of that ramble is, thats not going to be a fun march ;-)

A courier dashed up to General Reynolds, just as was about to begin discussion with McClellan. Reynolds quickly read the dispatch and then shouted for an aide.

"I'm sory George, but I've just rcieved word that Hancock has moved. Grant has requested that I move into Virginia in support and by God I'm going to give it to them!"

Orderlys and messengers criss-crossed Washington DC throughout the day, requisitioning supplies and preparing the army for march.

OOC: lol thats some rough terrain, I can tell you from firsthand experience, when flooding happened in Belmont County in Ohio in september 2004 and they called in the Guard, guess who went, me. So I spent 9 days driving Humvees around floodravaged areas. Ya know its kinda funny watching a humvee slow to 15mph to get up a hill, I had the bitch floored but the hills were that steep. St. Clairesville isn't a bad town, wouldn't want to go back though. So yeah the point of that ramble is, thats not going to be a fun march ;-)

ooc
been there myself, my father lives in western Virginia (not West Virginia) and I have been to Charleston. But terrain being what it is, and command and control restrictions being what they are, the Rebels are just as limited as the Yankees are. They won't be able to form a battleline, and 1862 tactics require it. So the fighting will be in the valleys. With any luck, they will realize its a pincer move and pull back as they have more important places to defend elsewhere. If not, we just might bag (or even kill or wound) General Lee before he becomes important.

General Lee of the confederates here, speaking OOC.

I gather you are invading West Virginia towards Charleston? Do you want me to respond here or do we make a seperate thread for each campaign. I'm unclear on this but I do have plans for the defence of West Virginia so don't post your next move Grant until you let me know where to post please.

Thank you.

TG your plans to me, and where your army is.


I need to know this.

Map of Virgina (http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/us_2001/virginia_ref_2001.jpg)

The Army of the Potomac, under General Reynolds, 67,000 men strong, has begun to move. In the early morning the assembly sounds and the tents go down. Rank after rank of blue-clad men fall into line. General Reynolds conducts a last-minute inspection of the army before the march. Then the army manuvers into marching order and th vanguard begins marching south-west, crossing the Potomac and heading towards Manassas Junction. Orders are sent recalling the two cavalry brigades back to the army. Tey should be rejoining them along the march.

The Army is spread thusly:

In the lead are the 1st New York Cavalry with the 2nd New York Cavalry deployed to guard the flanks. Behind them is the first of the infantry, the I Corps with advance gurds and flankers out to either side. Behind them stretches the II, III, and IV Corps of the army. The 1st Division of the IV Corps is deployed to protect the supply lines and provide a rearguard if neccessary.

The V and VI corps are under Buell and have been left to act as a reserve and guard Washington DC.

Reynolds intends to march to Manassas Junction, sieze the rail lines and then send a force to Harpers Ferry, while the bulk of his troops turn towards Richmond.

I. Corps

First Division
1st New York
1st Maine
1st Connecticut
Second Division
1st Ohio
3rd Maryland
2nd Pennsylvania
Third Division
2nd New York
1st New Jersey
1st Rhode Island

II Corps

First Division
1st Michigan
3rd New York
2nd Maine
Second Division
2nd Massachuesetts
2nd New Jersey
3rd Pennsylvania
Third Division
1st Pennsylvania
1st California
4th New York

III Corps

First Division
1st Maryland
2nd Rhode Island
5th New York
4th Pennsylvania
Second Division
3rd Massachuesetts
1st Massachuesetts
The Irish Brigade
2nd Maryland
1st Washington DC Brigade

IV Corps

First Division
2nd Ohio
2nd Michigan
6th New York
Second Division
5th Pennsylvania
4th New Jersey
2nd Connecticut
Third Division
2nd Rhode Island
6th Pennsylvania
3rd New Jersey

Cavalry
First Cavalry Division
Currently with the AoP
1st New York Cavalry
2nd New York Cavalry
Currently returning to the AoP
1st Ohio Cavalry

Due to gross incompetence, Major General Pope has been reduced in rank to Captain and assigned to command the brand new Coast Defense Battery in Helana, Montana Territory.


Abraham Lincoln
President, USA

Who in hell is John Pope is he a Confederate? He should kill himself after getting reduced in rank from General to Capatian.

shutup nice try.


Do you think I'm stupid?

Grant orders his staff, and the troopers of the Illinois cavalry brigade, to find Union sympathizers and find out exactly what the Rebel strength is in western Virgnina, and their their deployment.

Meanwhile, he continues his advance.

Grant orders his staff, and the troopers of the Illinois cavalry brigade, to find Union sympathizers and find out exactly what the Rebel strength is in western Virgnina, and their their deployment.

Meanwhile, he continues his advance.


Will there be a thread set up for this?

Sorry, just found it. This will make everything a great deal clearer I believe, stuff will just get cluttered if we RP it on the main threads.

George Gordon Meade walked into Gen. McClellan's office, the sound of his footsteps ringing off the walls of the large office.

"Reporting for duty, sir."

Awaiting Orders, sir.

OOC: I aint sure whether I should make a separate thread for this... CoC?

William Tecumseh Sherman, Mj.General and the commanding officer of the Army of Missisippi, had been on the move for the whole week now. News from other theaters of the war, mainly the most eastern of them - the Virginia front - had kept coming steadily, and Sherman was well aware that with as strong force as he had in his disposal, taking the initiative was a must, if he was to keep his job.

However, he had had a reason for this delay. The Missisippi Flotilla he had been constructing in St.Luis with the assistance of several navy officers was not thought to be capable of service untill now. He thought this fleet would prove itself to be very usefull in the incoming campaign.
The plan he had made required the ability to safely and swiftly cross the river whenever needed, and the ability to prevent the enemy from doing this would of course be a great bonus also.

That's why he had got so little sleep during the last days before the start of the offensive - he had been riding/sailing back and forth between Cape Girardieu, in where his army was, and St.Luis, where the fleet had been under construction. Now he had decided that the both were ready, and gave his orders to start using them.

To Memphis!

For this plan of his, that only the highest of the Union officers knew of, he had the following troops under his command:

1st Corps,
1st Division
1st Kansas
1st Nebraska
1st Minnesota

2nd Division
3rd California
1st Iowa
4th Wisconsin

3rd Division
1st Missouri
7th Illinois
4th Indiana,
that were commanded by Maj. General Butler, and

2nd Corps,
4th Division
2nd Minnesota
5th United States
3rd Minnesota

5th Division
2nd Iowa
2nd Missouri
5th Indiana

7th Division
7th Ohio
7th Michigan
6th United States,

that Sherman had given to the Mj.General John Pope. He had however been kicked from this position by the order given straight by the President, and the unit was therefore at the moment under the straight rule of the Army Commander himself.

Besides these, the army included

6th Independent Division
3rd Iowa
7th United States
4th Iowa
4th Minnesota

and Missisippi Cavalry Division,
1st Missouri
2nd Indiana.

The order of this magnificent force of more than 45,000 men, now heading south, was the following:

2nd Corps and 6th Independent following the west bank of Missisippi, moving along the riverabnk road. Butler's 1st corps a bit west of that, securing the right side of the army. Cavalry some 10 to 20 kilometres in front of the marching army, spread out in a wide formation.

River flotilla of couple dozens of gunboats and transport ships monitoring Missisippi and possible enemy actions near/over it.

Maj. General Butler assembled his men and had the divisions run roll call. He looked over the plans that were given to him by Sherman. The plan seemed easy enough. After Rol call concluded, Butler rounded up his divisions, which were:

1st Division
1st Kansas
1st Nebraska
1st Minnesota

2nd Division
3rd California
1st Iowa
4th Wisconsin

3rd Division
1st Missouri
7th Illinois
4th Indiana


Now that everyone was assmebled and ready, Butler waited for the orders to advance.

Maj. General Butler assembled his men and had the divisions run roll call. He looked over the plans that were given to him by Sherman. The plan seemed easy enough. After Rol call concluded, Butler rounded up his divisions, which were:

1st Division
1st Kansas
1st Nebraska
1st Minnesota

2nd Division
3rd California
1st Iowa
4th Wisconsin

3rd Division
1st Missouri
7th Illinois
4th Indiana


Now that everyone was assmebled and ready, Butler waited for the orders to advance.
Uh, who are you? :confused: Not another Comstan puppet I hope...

Uh, who are you? :confused: Not another Comstan puppet I hope...

Nah, he's ok.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10119405&posted=1#post10119405


Western Virginia.

Any orders for me?

36,000 men in my corp awaiting orders at wherever the army is encamped.

Edit: found a good site too- http://www.civilwarhome.com/armyorganization.htm

36,000 men in my corp awaiting orders at wherever the army is encamped.

Edit: found a good site too- http://www.civilwarhome.com/armyorganization.htm
and don't forget those were IDEAL circustances

Heh, yeah we weren't sure on exact sizes of units like that so when myself and manarth Organized the numbers are different


Confederate Brigades roughly 750- men
Union Brigades, 1600 Men

Divisions
Confederate 2 or more Brigades 1500-3000 depending on organization

Union 2 or more Brigades usually around 5000 depending on organization


And Union Corps are 15,000 while Confederate Corps are somewhere around 8,000 Depending on total number of brigades.


So you really only have about 15,000 men in your Corps, not 36,000

ooc
a full strength Civil War infantry regiment will have 1200 men... for about a couple of days. Then camp fevers and various other illnesses will kill about 1/3 of the men over the next few weeks and months. By the time it hits battle, figure about 800 men. Then it will lose roughly 20 - 70% of those in action. After a couple of fights, the average Civil War regiment will have about 300 -500 men.

A brigade will have 3 - 5 regiments to give it enough strength to have around 1500 men, and divisions will usually have 2 -4 brigades (usally 3). Corps will have about 2 - 5 divisions, depending on the Army and the Theater. Corps size is around 10 -15,000 men. The Union Army has more corps than the Confederate Army.

The Confederate Army generally tried to keep its regiments up to strength, while the Union Army just kept on raising new regiments and usually neglected to provide replacements for the old ones. This was due to political reasons (Governors got to create officers this way you see).

On the other hand, the Union Army had nearly twice as much artillery available and a lot more ammunition than the Confederate Army generally did.

By the way, generally divisions and brigades were known by the commanders name, but as that changed a lot, I like the current setup for naming brigades. Its easier to deal with.

Incidently, during the Civil War nearly 2 - 3 times as many men died from illness as from battle. Aren't you glad you live in an era with antibiotics, germ theory and decent sanitation?

OOC can someone please post an address for the Union Army Chatzy? my computer's been frazzing out on me and I lost the address. Thnx.

OOC: Gen. Reynolds, is the Union Army marching down to Manassass junction on one big line? exactly how are the troops disposed? Is anyone taking the road that runs over stone bridge to flank Henry Hill from the East? TG me in nationstates with info so the commander of your II corps can have some cogent idea of where his troops are, or at least are supposed to be.

Merki, you have a tg.

Upon orders from Mj. General Reynolds, Mj. Genral John P. Hatch assigns orders to his cavalry:

1st New York Cavalry: Scout enemy positions ahead and report. Mj. General Hatch will ride with them

2nd New York Cavalry: Screen the troops and protect the road to Washington. The aide-de-camp will oversee them.