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Peace Talks Between Canada-Quebec and Halopina [closed]

Malkyer
05-12-2005, 01:59
OOC: This is closed to people in this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=456958).

Peace talks will be held in Seattle, in northern Malkyer. Emissaries from all involved parties are welcome, and security will be provided by the Royal Army of Malkyer.

Proposed Peace Treaty [provided by the Federation of Narnia and Archenland]

1. The Federation of Canada-Quebec withdraws its armed forces to within its original borders, restoring the status quo ante bellum.

2. A commission consisting of emissaries from Malkyer, Findan, West Canada Union, Pulcifer, and Narnia and Archenland shall be convened to review the validity of the claims against Halopina that have been made by the Federation of Canada-Quebec as a formal justification for war.

3. The Imperial Commonwealth of Malkyer and the Imperial Land of Findan jointly equip and oversee a peacekeeping force of 25,000 troops that is to maintain peace and order in a special thirty-mile-wide demilitarized zone that shall separate Canada-Quebec and Halopina for a period of five years.

4. The Federation of Canada-Quebec shall compensate all citizens of Halopina who suffered because the invasion of Halopina, the value of such claims to be reviewed and determined by a special commission consisting of one emissary from each of the following: Malkyer, Findan, West Canada Union, Pulcifer, and Narnia and Archenland.

5. The Federation of Canada-Quebec shall also pay the government of the Holy Empire of Halopina the equivalent of 75 million Narnian thalers ($43,352,601) in direct compensation for the losses in men and equipment suffered over the next ten years.

6. All nations party to the eventual peace agreement between Canada-Quebec and Halopina shall sign a covenant that they shall do their utmost to maintain the peace as established in the terms of the final peace agreement and that they shall, if war starts once more, take direct, forceful action against the aggressor in said conflict.

Proposed Amendments [provided by the West Canada Union]

1. Any withdrawal of West Canada forces from Ontario shall be linked to Canadian withdrawal from Halopina;

2. Pulcifer shall accept that it was not West Canada who had set off the bomb in their nation;

3. Canada shall never again attack a nation without a justifiable casus belli.

A cease-fire is in effect for all combatants, and for the duration of the peace negotiations, there will be no unilateral advance or withdrawal of military forces by any combatant party.
Canada-Quebec
05-12-2005, 03:37
General Daniel Istaris was on a helicopter to the city of Seattle. The radio operator in the helicopter spoke calmly over the radio;

"This is Canada 1, with General Daniel Istaris who is the President of Canada-Quebec. He will be looking forward to negotiations. We request landing clearance?"

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Message to other nations:

Canada-Quebec Foreign Ministry:

1. The Federation of Canada-Quebec withdraws its armed forces to within its original borders, restoring the status quo ante bellum. Can be negotiated.

2. A commission consisting of emissaries from Malkyer, Findan, West Canada Union, Pulcifer, and Narnia and Archenland shall be convened to review the validity of the claims against Halopina that have been made by the Federation of Canada-Quebec as a formal justification for war. Accept

3. The Imperial Commonwealth of Malkyer and the Imperial Land of Findan jointly equip and oversee a peacekeeping force of 25,000 troops that is to maintain peace and order in a special thirty-mile-wide demilitarized zone that shall separate Canada-Quebec and Halopina for a period of five years. Can be negotiated.

4. The Federation of Canada-Quebec shall compensate all citizens of Halopina who suffered because the invasion of Halopina, the value of such claims to be reviewed and determined by a special commission consisting of one emissary from each of the following: Malkyer, Findan, West Canada Union, Pulcifer, and Narnia and Archenland. Rejected Openly biased, a commission of non-aligned nations.

5. The Federation of Canada-Quebec shall also pay the government of the Holy Empire of Halopina the equivalent of 75 million Narnian thalers ($43,352,601) in direct compensation for the losses in men and equipment suffered over the next ten years. Can be negotiated terms at moment rejected

6. All nations party to the eventual peace agreement between Canada-Quebec and Halopina shall sign a covenant that they shall do their utmost to maintain the peace as established in the terms of the final peace agreement and that they shall, if war starts once more, take direct, forceful action against the aggressor in said conflict. Accepted


Proposed Amendments [provided by the West Canada Union]


Quote:
Originally Posted by Amendments
1. Any withdrawal of West Canada forces from Ontario shall be linked to Canadian withdrawal from Halopina; Accepted

2. Pulcifer shall accept that it was not West Canada who had set off the bomb in their nation; Rejected, can be negotiated

3. Canada shall never again attack a nation without a justifiable casus belli. Rejected

Canada-Quebec amendments:

(1) The Socialist State Army is only a militant group from Halopina that requested the help of the Canada-Quebec government against its fight against the oppressive Halopina government.

(2) All damages caused by Western Canadian Union will be paid in full to the Federation of Canada-Quebec

(3) Canada and only Canada-Quebec can decide what and when they can declare war against another nation if it is in there interest.
Canada-Quebec
05-12-2005, 04:15
bump
Canada-Quebec
05-12-2005, 15:54
bump
Canada-Quebec
05-12-2005, 21:01
anyone?
Halghan
05-12-2005, 21:10
obviously not...
Shazbotdom
05-12-2005, 21:11
***OFFICIAL PROCLIMATION***
To: All Involved
From: Galen Q. Leotardia

Might i suggest a Demilitarized Zone between the two nations as a sort of cushion where military perosnell from either nation cannot enter no matter what reason. This could be anywhere from 5 kilometers to 50 kilometers. The distance of the territory would be open to debate between the two waring nations and/or the nations that helped defend the non-aggressive nation. Pay attention that this idea is from a nation that is in no way bias with or against any of the nations involved in this conflict and should not be treated in such a way.
Canada-Quebec
05-12-2005, 21:13
A good suggestion. It is reasonable, could be negotiated between the parties.
Findan
05-12-2005, 22:25
The Imperial Land of Findan accepts all of the prposals and all of the ademendment except admendment 2. The admendment preposed by Shazbotdam is also acceptable.
Malkyer
06-12-2005, 00:20
"This is Canada 1, with General Daniel Istaris who is the President of Canada-Quebec. He will be looking forward to negotiations. We request landing clearance?"

"Canada 1, you are cleared for landing. The General will be picked up at the airport."

Canada-Quebec Foreign Ministry:

1. The Federation of Canada-Quebec withdraws its armed forces to within its original borders, restoring the status quo ante bellum. Can be negotiated.

This point, from the view of the Imperial Commonwealth, is absolutely non-negotiable. The Federation of Canada-Quebec will accept this.

3. The Imperial Commonwealth of Malkyer and the Imperial Land of Findan jointly equip and oversee a peacekeeping force of 25,000 troops that is to maintain peace and order in a special thirty-mile-wide demilitarized zone that shall separate Canada-Quebec and Halopina for a period of five years. Can be negotiated.

The Imperial Commonwealth believes that a demilitarized zone is in the best interests of both Canada-Quebec and Halopina, though the number of soldiers stationed there and the size of such a zone are negotiable.

4. The Federation of Canada-Quebec shall compensate all citizens of Halopina who suffered because the invasion of Halopina, the value of such claims to be reviewed and determined by a special commission consisting of one emissary from each of the following: Malkyer, Findan, West Canada Union, Pulcifer, and Narnia and Archenland. Rejected Openly biased, a commission of non-aligned nations.

The Imperial Commonwealth suggests removing from the proposed commission the West Canada Union and Pulcifer. By doing so, any findings of said commission would be deduced by three neutral nations; there can be no realistic objection to the impartiality of such findings.


Originally Posted by Amendments
2. Pulcifer shall accept that it was not West Canada who had set off the bomb in their nation; Rejected, can be negotiated

3. Canada shall never again attack a nation without a justifiable casus belli. Rejected

Amendment #2 is a matter best discussed between the governments of the West Canada Union and Pulcifer. Amendment #3, however, is non-negotiable in the eyes of the Imperial Commonwealth. We remind the Federation of Canada-Quebec that self-defense is a perfectly justifiable reason for war; blatant wars of aggression are not.

Canada-Quebec amendments:

(1) The Socialist State Army is only a militant group from Halopina that requested the help of the Canada-Quebec government against its fight against the oppressive Halopina government.

(2) All damages caused by Western Canadian Union will be paid in full to the Federation of Canada-Quebec

(3) Canada and only Canada-Quebec can decide what and when they can declare war against another nation if it is in there interest.

The matter of Amendment #1 is a matter best resolved by the government of Halopina. In regards to the second proposed Amendment, the Imperial Commonwealth of Malkyer reminds the Federation that the West Canada Union currently has the upper hand in the war should fighting resume, and thus it is perhaps not a wise decision to make such demands. A better proposal would be to cancel the reciprocal debts of both nations.

Please cross-apply the Imperial Commonwealth's statements concerning the third WCU amendment in regards to the FCQ third amendment.
West Canada Union
06-12-2005, 03:56
The West Canada Union is willing to withdraw its amendments two and three, withdraw from Canada within a set time, willing to start a commission to oversee the accusation that we set a bomb in Pulcifer, but is not willing to give payments to Canada. They had plenty chance to withdraw from Halopina before our invasion, and anyway, we will not pay a nation to subsidize a terrorist group.

That is our final position. The last point is non-negotionable.
West Canada Union
06-12-2005, 04:01
And to Pulcifer, what supposed proof do you have that it was the West Canada government that allegedly planted the bomb in your nation?
Mad Poodle Eating Dave
06-12-2005, 04:09
The fact that I have lost at least four ships and have one dead in the water. I think someone's not owing up to something.
Blickemlord
06-12-2005, 04:12
General Daniel Istaris was on a helicopter to the city of Seattle. The radio operator in the helicopter spoke calmly over the radio;

"This is Canada 1, with General Daniel Istaris who is the President of Canada-Quebec. He will be looking forward to negotiations. We request landing clearance?"

--------

Message to other nations:

Canada-Quebec Foreign Ministry:

1. The Federation of Canada-Quebec withdraws its armed forces to within its original borders, restoring the status quo ante bellum. Can be negotiated.

2. A commission consisting of emissaries from Malkyer, Findan, West Canada Union, Pulcifer, and Narnia and Archenland shall be convened to review the validity of the claims against Halopina that have been made by the Federation of Canada-Quebec as a formal justification for war. Accept

3. The Imperial Commonwealth of Malkyer and the Imperial Land of Findan jointly equip and oversee a peacekeeping force of 25,000 troops that is to maintain peace and order in a special thirty-mile-wide demilitarized zone that shall separate Canada-Quebec and Halopina for a period of five years. Can be negotiated.

4. The Federation of Canada-Quebec shall compensate all citizens of Halopina who suffered because the invasion of Halopina, the value of such claims to be reviewed and determined by a special commission consisting of one emissary from each of the following: Malkyer, Findan, West Canada Union, Pulcifer, and Narnia and Archenland. Rejected Openly biased, a commission of non-aligned nations.

5. The Federation of Canada-Quebec shall also pay the government of the Holy Empire of Halopina the equivalent of 75 million Narnian thalers ($43,352,601) in direct compensation for the losses in men and equipment suffered over the next ten years. Can be negotiated terms at moment rejected

6. All nations party to the eventual peace agreement between Canada-Quebec and Halopina shall sign a covenant that they shall do their utmost to maintain the peace as established in the terms of the final peace agreement and that they shall, if war starts once more, take direct, forceful action against the aggressor in said conflict. Accepted


Proposed Amendments [provided by the West Canada Union]


Quote:
Originally Posted by Amendments
1. Any withdrawal of West Canada forces from Ontario shall be linked to Canadian withdrawal from Halopina; Accepted

2. Pulcifer shall accept that it was not West Canada who had set off the bomb in their nation; Rejected, can be negotiated

3. Canada shall never again attack a nation without a justifiable casus belli. Rejected

Canada-Quebec amendments:

(1) The Socialist State Army is only a militant group from Halopina that requested the help of the Canada-Quebec government against its fight against the oppressive Halopina government.

(2) All damages caused by Western Canadian Union will be paid in full to the Federation of Canada-Quebec

(3) Canada and only Canada-Quebec can decide what and when they can declare war against another nation if it is in there interest.

(4) Canada and only Canada will make Ginger Ale to taste extremely dry and only Canada may do so, sayeth Canada.
Mad Poodle Eating Dave
06-12-2005, 04:14
OCC I'm backing him up on that.
Canada-Quebec
06-12-2005, 05:20
General Istaris walked into the room with all delegates and stated the principles of the Canada-Quebec foederation.


1. The Federation of Canada-Quebec withdraws its armed forces to within its original borders, restoring the status quo ante bellum. Can be negotiated.


This point, from the view of the Imperial Commonwealth, is absolutely non-negotiable. The Federation of Canada-Quebec will accept this.

We will only withdraw our forces when it is written that the Western Canadian Union has withdrawn.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada-Quebec
3. The Imperial Commonwealth of Malkyer and the Imperial Land of Findan jointly equip and oversee a peacekeeping force of 25,000 troops that is to maintain peace and order in a special thirty-mile-wide demilitarized zone that shall separate Canada-Quebec and Halopina for a period of five years. Can be negotiated.


The Imperial Commonwealth believes that a demilitarized zone is in the best interests of both Canada-Quebec and Halopina, though the number of soldiers stationed there and the size of such a zone are negotiable.

A demilitarized zone of 10 kilometers can be set up between the agressive Western Canadian Union and Canada-Quebec with a peacekeeping force of the 25,000 soldiers. We do not accept at the moment a DMZ around Halopina.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada-Quebec
4. The Federation of Canada-Quebec shall compensate all citizens of Halopina who suffered because the invasion of Halopina, the value of such claims to be reviewed and determined by a special commission consisting of one emissary from each of the following: Malkyer, Findan, West Canada Union, Pulcifer, and Narnia and Archenland. Rejected Openly biased, a commission of non-aligned nations.


The Imperial Commonwealth suggests removing from the proposed commission the West Canada Union and Pulcifer. By doing so, any findings of said commission would be deduced by three neutral nations; there can be no realistic objection to the impartiality of such findings.

If Western Canada Union and Pulcifer are removed than that is acceptable to Canada-Quebec.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada-Quebec
Canada-Quebec amendments:

(1) The Socialist State Army is only a militant group from Halopina that requested the help of the Canada-Quebec government against its fight against the oppressive Halopina government.

(2) All damages caused by Western Canadian Union will be paid in full to the Federation of Canada-Quebec

(3) Canada and only Canada-Quebec can decide what and when they can declare war against another nation if it is in there interest.


The matter of Amendment #1 is a matter best resolved by the government of Halopina. In regards to the second proposed Amendment, the Imperial Commonwealth of Malkyer reminds the Federation that the West Canada Union currently has the upper hand in the war should fighting resume, and thus it is perhaps not a wise decision to make such demands. A better proposal would be to cancel the reciprocal debts of both nations.

Please cross-apply the Imperial Commonwealth's statements concerning the third WCU amendment in regards to the FCQ third amendment.

We will not budge from amendments 1 and 3. Any damage committed by Western Canada Union forces in Canada-Quebec will be repaid in full.

That is all these are what we believe is agreeable.
Narnia and Archenland
06-12-2005, 06:45
Quote:
1. The Federation of Canada-Quebec withdraws its armed forces to within its original borders, restoring the status quo ante bellum. Can be negotiated.


This point, from the view of the Imperial Commonwealth, is absolutely non-negotiable. The Federation of Canada-Quebec will accept this.


We will only withdraw our forces when it is written that the Western Canadian Union has withdrawn.

"Gentleman, gentleman." Secretary Schmeling interjected, calmly removing his bifocals and rubbing the weariness from his eyes, "I suggest that the withdrawal of Canada-Quebec's forces from Halopina and the West Canada Union's forces from Canada-Quebec occur simultaneously. Let them both return home at a set date and time - with Findan and Malkyer assuring that there will be no treachery by either nation."

A demilitarized zone of 10 kilometers can be set up between the agressive Western Canadian Union and Canada-Quebec with a peacekeeping force of the 25,000 soldiers. We do not accept at the moment a DMZ around Halopina.

"Really, General, why is that? The fact you seem to forget, General Istaris," Schmeling was perfectly blunt now, "is that several of the countries assembled at this conference see you as the aggressor in this conflict. Some sort of tangible guarantee must be given to the Holy Empire of Halopina to insure that they will not be subjected to armed invasion by your country ever again. And besides," Schmeling paused to take a drink of water, "the DMZ and the presence of an international peacekeeping force would be to your benefit, insuring your country's security against any military operations on the part of Halopina."

If Western Canada Union and Pulcifer are removed than that is acceptable to Canada-Quebec.

The point is conceded by the Federation of Narnia and Archenland.

We will not budge from amendments 1 and 3. Any damage committed by Western Canada Union forces in Canada-Quebec will be repaid in full.

"Again," the Secretary of State for Foreign Relations (he has just received news that his appointment had been made a permanent one) declared, "you forget that your nation is seen as the aggressor in this conflict. You have invaded another sovereign nation using as yet unvalidated charges as your justification. You are not entitled at this time to compensation any more than a thief is entitled to the car of the man he was trying to rob because he was shot in the commission of the robbery.

"Now, if the commission that is to be constituted to investigate your accusations concerning the conduct of Halopina government does in fact conclude that the alleged abuses did occur, then the Federation of Narnia and Archenland would be willing to consider some sort of compensation on the part of the West Canada Union. But no, not at this time."
Shazbotdom
06-12-2005, 17:51
***Incomming Video Teleconference***
On the screen appears Galen Q. Leotardia, the 2md Emperor of the Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom. He shuffles papers around and then turns toward the screen.

"I have been following the proceedings of this meeting carefully and would like to give me oppinion on this matter at hand. May I remind all parites involved that our point of view is not bias in any way but if fighting resumes we will dispatch a group of peacekeepers to simultaniously cut off all supply lines between Canada-Quebec's troops and their homeland without entering the soverign territory of Canada-Quebec. With that being said I would suggest that the earlier statment that I made be taken into consideration for this demilitarized zone between the two nations and that a neutral group, to be determined at a later date, patrol this area to make sure that no military units from either nation attempt to cross into eachothers soverign territory.

Also, here is my oppinion on the following thoughts. I will include the orriginal text and then my oppinion on the matter.

1. The Federation of Canada-Quebec withdraws its armed forces to within its original borders, restoring the status quo ante bellum. Can be negotiated.; (OPPINION) This should not be negotiable. It will be manditory or I am sure that nations from the International Community will help to forcibly remove them and the Pure Socialist Holy Empire will help the International Community.

2. A commission consisting of emissaries from Malkyer, Findan, West Canada Union, Pulcifer, and Narnia and Archenland shall be convened to review the validity of the claims against Halopina that have been made by the Federation of Canada-Quebec as a formal justification for war. Accept; (OPPINION) It is good that this has been accepted.

3. The Imperial Commonwealth of Malkyer and the Imperial Land of Findan jointly equip and oversee a peacekeeping force of 25,000 troops that is to maintain peace and order in a special thirty-mile-wide demilitarized zone that shall separate Canada-Quebec and Halopina for a period of five years. Can be negotiated.; (OPPINION) The peacekeeping force is a good idea and Canada-Quebec should accept this. Nations have put a larger amount of troops into demilitarized zones of much smaller size.

4. The Federation of Canada-Quebec shall compensate all citizens of Halopina who suffered because the invasion of Halopina, the value of such claims to be reviewed and determined by a special commission consisting of one emissary from each of the following: Malkyer, Findan, West Canada Union, Pulcifer, and Narnia and Archenland. Rejected Openly biased, a commission of non-aligned nations.; (OPPINION) This is not openly biased and should be accepted. Although the Pure Socialist Holy Empire does believe that since we have been following this event from it's beginning that we be allowed on this comission.

5. The Federation of Canada-Quebec shall also pay the government of the Holy Empire of Halopina the equivalent of 75 million Narnian thalers ($43,352,601) in direct compensation for the losses in men and equipment suffered over the next ten years. Can be negotiated terms at moment rejected; (OPPINION) The amount asked for is small compared to what it could be from loss of life and damage of buildings. I suggest that you accept.

6. All nations party to the eventual peace agreement between Canada-Quebec and Halopina shall sign a covenant that they shall do their utmost to maintain the peace as established in the terms of the final peace agreement and that they shall, if war starts once more, take direct, forceful action against the aggressor in said conflict. Accepted; (OPPINION) It is good that you accepted.


Proposed Amendments [provided by the West Canada Union]

Originally Posted by Amendments
1. Any withdrawal of West Canada forces from Ontario shall be linked to Canadian withdrawal from Halopina; Accepted; (OPPINION) It is good that you accepted.

2. Pulcifer shall accept that it was not West Canada who had set off the bomb in their nation; Rejected, can be negotiated; (OPPINION) It is not up to you to accpet nor reject this, it is up to Pulcifer.

3. Canada shall never again attack a nation without a justifiable casus belli. Rejected; (OPPINION) This should be accepted. Attacking a nation because you don't believe in thier religion is in the wrong. You should only attack a nation if they are doing something illegal like mass genocide or using WMD's against their own populace.


That is all that i believe i should cover for now. If anyone has any comments i will keep this channel open."
Pulcifer
06-12-2005, 23:16
Emperor Leotardia, I won't let the WCU until I know who let off the bomb and two, know who keeps sinking my ships.

OCC:They're still sinking in the original forum, but I would like to know if anyone still cares, or if I should just let the Forum go.
Pulcifer
06-12-2005, 23:22
General Istaris walked into the room with all delegates and stated the principles of the Canada-Quebec foederation.




We will only withdraw our forces when it is written that the Western Canadian Union has withdrawn.



A demilitarized zone of 10 kilometers can be set up between the agressive Western Canadian Union and Canada-Quebec with a peacekeeping force of the 25,000 soldiers. We do not accept at the moment a DMZ around Halopina.


If Western Canada Union and Pulcifer are removed than that is acceptable to Canada-Quebec.





We will not budge from amendments 1 and 3. Any damage committed by Western Canada Union forces in Canada-Quebec will be repaid in full.

That is all these are what we believe is agreeable.

We are the victims here as well. By government gave the FCQ three million in our own funds to support them economicaly. We would have gladly given to the WCU as well, but as a result, I have now over 2000 dead, counting the latest sunk ships. We are not going anywhere.

The Viceroy
Shazbotdom
07-12-2005, 00:59
Emperor Leotardia, I won't let the WCU until I know who let off the bomb and two, know who keeps sinking my ships.

Shaking his head, he talked into the camera.
"We did not demand anything of you. We were replying to what Canada-Quebec had stated about the Peace Treaty. Not to sound mean but if we stated anything toward you, we would have mentioned it."
Malkyer
07-12-2005, 01:36
Mr. John Rawlings, the representative of Malkyer at these peace talks, cleared his throat.

"General Istaris, it is assumed by the nations present, and indeed outlined in the proposed peace treaty, that any withdrawal of Federation troops from Halopina would be in conjunction with a withdrawal by West Canadian troops from Federation territory. We would not ask for any unilateral disarmament.

"I have been instructed by the Emperor not to concede on the point of the third Canada-Quebec amendment. The Federation will not go to war without a justifiable casus belli.

"Finally, I am afraid that the matter of debt payment is best resolved between the relevant nations." Personally, Rawlings failed to see how Canada-Quebec was in a position to demand anything, but he figured it would best to ignore the issue for now.
West Canada Union
07-12-2005, 03:09
To Pulcifer:

Besides your accusation, what other proof do you have that it was the West Canada government that set off the bomb in your nation? Surely you have some if you made such a announcement.
Canada-Quebec
07-12-2005, 03:45
1. The Federation of Canada-Quebec withdraws its armed forces to within its original borders, restoring the status quo ante bellum. Can be negotiated.

2. A commission consisting of emissaries from Malkyer, Findan, West Canada Union, Pulcifer, and Narnia and Archenland shall be convened to review the validity of the claims against Halopina that have been made by the Federation of Canada-Quebec as a formal justification for war. Accept

3. The Imperial Commonwealth of Malkyer and the Imperial Land of Findan jointly equip and oversee a peacekeeping force of 25,000 troops that is to maintain peace and order in a special thirty-mile-wide demilitarized zone that shall separate Canada-Quebec and Halopina for a period of five years. Can be negotiated.

We have now decided to have two ten-mile long DMZ zones between Western Canadian Union -Canada-Quebec and Halopina and Canada-Quebec.

4. The Federation of Canada-Quebec shall compensate all citizens of Halopina who suffered because the invasion of Halopina, the value of such claims to be reviewed and determined by a special commission consisting of one emissary from each of the following: Malkyer, Findan, West Canada Union, Pulcifer, and Narnia and Archenland.

Pulcifer and Western Canadian Union off this commission will be fine.

5. The Federation of Canada-Quebec shall also pay the government of the Holy Empire of Halopina the equivalent of 75 million Narnian thalers ($43,352,601) in direct compensation for the losses in men and equipment suffered over the next ten years.

We will be willing to give 5 billion dollars over 20 years, if damages of Western Canada Union is made of their attack on civilian and military structures in Canada-Quebec.

6. All nations party to the eventual peace agreement between Canada-Quebec and Halopina shall sign a covenant that they shall do their utmost to maintain the peace as established in the terms of the final peace agreement and that they shall, if war starts once more, take direct, forceful action against the aggressor in said conflict. Accepted


Proposed Amendments [provided by the West Canada Union]


Quote:
Originally Posted by Amendments
1. Any withdrawal of West Canada forces from Ontario shall be linked to Canadian withdrawal from Halopina; Accepted

2. Pulcifer shall accept that it was not West Canada who had set off the bomb in their nation; Rejected, can be negotiated

3. Canada shall never again attack a nation without a justifiable casus belli. Rejected

Canada-Quebec amendments:

(1) The Socialist State Army is only a militant group from Halopina that requested the help of the Canada-Quebec government against its fight against the oppressive Halopina government.
Canada-Quebec
08-12-2005, 23:27
bump
West Canada Union
09-12-2005, 00:59
The West Canada Union condemns the Canadian bombardment of Halopina for the terrorist attack supposedly commited by Halopina. You are threatening the peace talks with your agression, and were it not for that agression, there would never have been any war.

This is our final offer.

Either cease your bombardment of Halopina and withdraw from all Halopinan territory within 24 hours, or we shall pull out of the peace talks currently occuring. Should you refuse this, consider all of your territory occupied by us territory of the West Canada Union until a comprehensive peace plan is established.

We cannot guarentee anything if we pull out of the peace talks.
Narnia and Archenland
09-12-2005, 02:57
"Gentlemen! Gentlemen!" Secretary Schemling interjected, raising his hands like a man separating two quarreling teen-age boys, "I appreciate the fact that the hopes of peace at present seem fruitless, particularly in light of the recent events. But that does not mean that this conference should be abandoned."

As the room quieted down for a moment, Schmeling took a drink of water, adjusted his spectacles, and continued, "Let us remember what war will mean for all the nations presently assembled. This is a photograph of Lt. Henry Buckmaster: He is at present the sole fatality the Federation of Narnia and Archenland has suffered in this war. He was born near the provincial city of Beruna in 1982. His mother was a schoolteacher, and his father was a constable. He attended local state schools, and in 2000 he entered St. Vincent's College in Southborough, near Glasswater. In 2001, he married Miranda Coughlin who just this week gave birth to their first - indeed only - child, a son that she's named Henry, Jr. Look at his face. Think about his story. Now amplify it by one-thousand --- no! ten-thousand --- fold. If you abandon all hopes for peace now, then we shall soon have many more people like the family of Lt. Buckmaster. Is that what you want, gentlemen? To be remembered as murderers? Because that it is what you will be - if you refuse to exercise discretion, or self-control - if you refuse to stay at this peace conference and allow some sort of investigation be made into these events."
Canada-Quebec
09-12-2005, 04:28
President Daniel Istaris glared at the Western Canadian Union representative and stated;

"The Halopina capitalist scum wanted 30 trillion dollars from us. Then they bombed us which has left 500 civilians dead. I will not sink to your demands, you capitalist pig. You can invade us all you want we will defeat you and we will defeat the Halopina government if they continue to attack us. I am this close to end this stupid conference."
Shazbotdom
09-12-2005, 18:50
OOC:
Can we wait till Halpina actually gets his account created before we continue these peace talks? It is kinda wrong for us to find out what he says through a third party person. I personally want to see his messages come from him and not someone else.
Malkyer
09-12-2005, 23:58
OOC: Canada-Quebec's last post in the war thread pretty much killed the peace talks anyway. It is a bad idea to violate the peace of Malkyer.

IC:

While President Istaris wrapped up his final statement, the door to the conference room opened quietly, and a military police officer entered. He was followed by several armed soldiers, with another several waiting in the hallway.

"Mr. President, I am afraid that this conference is over. By the order of the Emperor, you are hereby under arrest for your nation's violation of the cease-fire terms. If you would not mind coming with us?" The officer was exceedingly calm, and very polite, but his tone made it clear he would not broker any argument.
Shazbotdom
10-12-2005, 00:17
Galen looked at his monitor to see what was going on. He then quickly looked around his office and pulled out a pad of paper and a pen. He then put his thoughts down on the piece of paper before he talked into the camera.

"People. If Canada-Quebec does not cease it's hostilities, we will dispatch the 3rd and 4th Companies of the Marine Corps onto craft and stop the hostilities ourselves. We do not want to attack but if we are put into the position to do it to cause peace in the region then we will.

I am putting the 3rd and 4th Companies of the Marine Corps on standby as i speak. I repeat again, if Hostilities on the part of Canada-Quebec do not cease, we will attack them."

The screen then cut off. Galen then looked at his computer and typed a message that he would send to all involved. He began typing it...


OOC:
The message will be in the "War" thread.
Malkyer
10-12-2005, 03:07
OOC: I will be out of town tomorrow until late in the evening (roughly 11:00 EST), so until I'm able to post again you should know that President Istaris will be removed from the conference and taken to a high-security holding area (probably a room in the Royal Palace) and be heavily guarded.
Malkyer
12-12-2005, 02:44
bump