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The dictatorship of Tankeda-Nygua wishes to join this pact. We will contribute 1.5 million soldiers, 300 tanks, 240 warplanes, 1200+ armored vehicles, 3 battleships and 600 pieces of artillery. We have long awaited such a proposal and look forward to a lasting, millitary bound, friendship. Hopefully, one day the evils of western idealology will be defeated. Also, to the nation proposing this alliance, would thier be any other benefits our rouge state would achieve? Also, we inform you that if this alliance remains unpopular over the course of the next few days, we will be obligated to abdicate our position.

The Armed Republic of Mirkana wishes to join. However, we are not sure what horseman we should be. We were thinking plague, but we aren't that big in the WMD department. We have nukes, but only tac-nukes. We have no lethal chemical weapons, since they can blow back at you when the wind changes. We have no bioweapons, since a determined nation can be very effective at stopping the spread of disease.

War really suits us best, as Mirkana is a militaristic nation.

OOC: Tankeda-nygua, if you utter the word "rouge" again, I will develop strategic nuclear weapons for the express purpose of nuking you.

Sorry, I play D&D, and I get irritated when someone misspells "rogue" as "rouge".

A few things to note:

Mirkana, while not a democratic nation overall, opposes democracy not on the basis of ideology, but on the basis that democracy is inefficient. Mirkana's ideology - if it is an ideology - is that everything - including the government - is subservient to the good and strength of Mirkana.

OOC: Perhaps we could make this a region? The International Defense Force (my anti-UN region) is getting boring.

All nations should be given at the very least, a 30% discount at a store run by the AFH. To be a Horseman you do not need to be abundant in the sector that you would run but you must be able to run it. I will make a region for the AFH, I will post it's name later.

OOC: I'd join for the sheer coolness of the name, probably as Death, but my nation is, sadly, rather moderate, besides the massive proliferation of biochems. That and I'm sort of a democracy myself (corporate monarchy, with the Regent elected by the stockholders of PRA). Damn you and your cool names... :D

Here is our region name:

Domain of the Horsemen.

Mirkana would like to make a point regarding the Four Horsemen. More specifically, we question whether Mirkana deserves the role of Horseman of War, and not Drexel Hillsville.

The military pervades all aspects of Mirkanan society. Think of Mirkana as an army that has created divisions devoted to science, agriculture, etc. Our leader is General Ken Remmol, a military genius who led a coup 20 years ago and completely transformed Mirkana. Our capital is Mount Stronghold, a mountain that has been transformed into a fortress.

We are not trying to unseat Drexel Hillsville as the leader of the AFH. In fact, they might be better off in a different position. It seems to us that the leader should be the Horseman of Death, as that is the political wing. Mirkana's role is to kill things.

We therefore propose that Drexel Hillsville become Horseman of Death, and Mirkana become Horseman of War.

OOC: Please consider this objectively. If you believe that the AFH would be better off with Drexel Hillsville as Horseman of War, state your reasons.

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No response to my proposal?

I am very militaristic as well, the ruler of the country is Supreme Admiral Sean O'Riley. He was exiled from Ireland due to his extreme brutality. He was a legend. Much of the Irish navy stayed with him, even though he was exiled. He and his navy then created the Naval Dictatorship of Drexel Hillsville. The capital is a fortress that was originally used by the natives of the islands that has been renovated and now stands as an almost inpennetrable Citidel that has yet to be breached by enemy fire. The capital building is really only an outpost that has a transport down ten miles to a bunker from which the government rules the nation.

I suggest that a new position, Azrael, be added. Azrael will be the ceromonial head of AFH but will be equal in power to the rest of the Horsemen.

I never disputed your suitability to be Horseman of War. What I claim is that Mirkana is MORE suitable to be Horseman of War.

I second the proposal that a leadership position be created.

To: Drexel Hillsville
From: The Xharnian Royal Foriegn Relations Agency

The Kingdom of Xharn would like to join this Alliance. Instead of being a horsman however we would like to be in the BOW political branch. Since we are starting on building a Nuclear Program in Xharn and plan to start a Chemical, Biological, Weapons reaserch soon.

Signed:
King Azure IV

Supreme High King and Ruler of the Kingdom of Xharn...

Of Most High Urgency,

The United Federaiton of Germanische hereby condemns this heinous attempt at the formation of a league which stands against all that civilization has accomplished over the past thirty millennia, namely, the creation and evolution of Democracy.

In so much as the free peoples of the universe have, historically, been the greatest source of invention, inspiration, and free-market enterprise, we strongly urge this burgeoning (or soon to be thus) alliance to rethink the basis upon which it is founded. As history has shown us, alliances based along the very lines you present now have ended up in great conflict with other nations, and have caused much grief, death, destruction, and the like.

As we are in no position to issue threats due to our own internal security concerns, we can only warn all participants in this alliance of future repurcussions of thy plots.

Signed,

Office of the Foreign Ministry


OOC: I like stirring up trouble. :)

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Official EL Government Proclamation
It is with great annoyance that I, King Adrian the first right this letter. Although we respect your right to create alliances among other nations this is a severe use of it. You are creating an organization that has not been seen for dozens of years and this is for several reasons. It is obvious they always fail and are nothing but a waste of resources

Please refrain from as you say, "Wipe the plague." of Democracy because you will end up nothing but a smoldering piece of mass. Though we are peaceful nation we have only recently finished a civil war and we are no longer naive. We know that sometimes war is nessecary to keep the world in peace and balance and you are threatening to destroy both of those.

We are not saying we will do it, far from it. In fact it will be a coalition of nations that are against such a cause and this coalition shall be your "apocalypse." So I suggest the immediate disbandment of this alliance for your own safety. Though we can do nothing but offer advice even if harsh advice it is only so that your nations may continue to somewhat prosper even under such a silly leadership.

[Signed]
King Adrian I

To the AFH:

Xharn is going to war with Usea-Jason. Mirkana will help, and we suggest that other members join in order to:
Protect the integrity of the Alliance of the Four Horsemen
Do some serious apocalypse work in Usea-Jason

More info here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10048942#post10048942)

Haha! Burgeoning! You wish! Hahahahahahahahahaha......


Signed,

Office of the Foreign Ministry

It was in moments after a civilization had just exhausted itself in the defense of an entire dimension, when representatives of the said civilization that lived to see the brighter day, see something like this take shape in the greater cosmos.

Lady Seto took a different approach, rather than a mere rejection speech.

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To: The Representatives of the 'Four Horsemen'
From: The Gaian Ascendancy Foreign Advosory

Subject: Sheesh...

It comes to wonder, why the concept of the declarations of this supposed alliance entity, would take a stance that would easily find another concept to hate, even if it's loft goals are met.

If Democracy is so destroyed in all it's infinite and myriad forms across all know space, across even vaster dimensions of reality beyond imagination, then what would take it's place next? Republics? Empires other than your own brand?

Where would it all end? Where's the stop measure that says this is nothing more than power mongering. More, can it be truly said that in the end, this single body will command it's final aspect, in any real sense? Can it dominate over so many other civilizations so completely?

So we give all personal luck in your goal, however misplaced in ideal it is. And we give watch to the future in all it's forms decisions like these take. In the end, the goal is one of many.

We have ours as well.

Regards,

Lady Seto Kamiki
Gaian Ascendancy Prime Foreign Advisor

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The Ascendancy returned to repairing itself from it's battle against Hell itself, all the meanwhile.

I almost forgot about this. Minkara, Hades Deep is my puppet account. I was using him in off site rp. Hehe.

LOL, sorry.
Just to tell you, I have no active puppet states.

It is with great sadness that I must inform of the death of Supreme Admiral O'Riley. He was a good man but was not the true leader. The new Supreme Admiral was and is the head of the Celtic Freedom Army (CFA) and has now taken lead of the nation. He has decided that the CFH of Drexel Hillsville will remain loyal to the AFH.

OOC: Should I rp the funeral?

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I'm lonely
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Hello my friends i am new in this forum but i wish to bring justice and peace with of course nukes. I was recomended to this forum from the leader here, Thus me taking the position of the horsemen of plague. As you all do i think democracy is ineffective and should be stopped, that being another reason for me to join because of democracy and its un just rulings

OOC: I am informing all AFH members of the existance of my new puppet state: The Far Realms - a state that is swiftly descending into madness and anarchy, due to contact with the Elder Gods (Cthulhu & Co). This state will not join the AFH - in fact, I forsee the day where the AFH will fight the Far Realms.
Insane cultists vs. the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse... that should be fun.

OOC: I imagine that to be quite exciting

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i'm lonely too :(

I have an idea!

We organize a meeting of AFH leaders.

Then the Far Realms attacks, and our leaders have to defend themselves.

If so, General Remmol claims sniper position.

Crowley takes a standard position.

I think that some of the bodyguards should survive. We will also have some joint operations to save them correct?

Yes some of the bodygaurds should survive, and joint militaristic operations would be a good idea

Mcdonald has a special ops team standing by if you need any backup

How dare you bastards! There is only one true group of 4 horsemen, and it ain't you lame asses. Now step off before I ice you fools!

I suppose some of the guards can survive, but I want to see our leaders fight in actual combat.

Oh, and we need to recruit Horsemen of Death and Famine. Start advertising in your regions!

How dare you bastards! There is only one true group of 4 horsemen, and it ain't you lame asses. Now step off before I ice you fools!
If we must engaging this fool in battle is what we must do, and the odds are in our favor (4v1) unless you want to make a friend of him or possibly an alliance, this of course is up to the cerimonial head of the AFH Azreal

Paul Stanley is my favorite member of KISS.

The Empire of MelekTaus shall be joining as the horseman of Famine. We have superior training, logistics, monitary and other such powers than several members of this alliance, and hope to bring you all to scratch. Weapons R&D is also another one of our strengths thanks to our Arms Manufactoring industry.

OOC: My first hand military experiance in tactics, training, weapons use e.c.t. will come in handy. And to the guy who threatened to 'ice' this alliance, watch your tongue boy... I'm probebly one of the bigger members of this alliance, and I don't take to OOC bullsheet about what is and isn't 'real' or 'legit'.

Welcome. This allaince will surely benifit from your participation.

Paul Stanley is my favorite member of KISS.
what the hell

what the hell

Just my words...

Anywho, this place needs more activity, a more internationally concious approach. We really need to make ourselves known, active, and get ourselves powerfull allies. This organisation is just a rabble at the moment, and being in charge of development and training, I'm about to whip it into shape. And the best way to do this is to pull our resources together. I say, we set up a military force, and become known by getting involved more in international conflict and issues.

DMG has a bank set up. Should I make an account for the AFH their?

May help later on if we are caught up in a major war

But the problem is if we go to war with DMG.

ya DMG is a pretty big superpower but then again we outnumber him by a long shot

That doesn't matter if our funds are frozen.

Oh, By the way I have a large number of ships on their way from DMG Military Industries for our use.

That doesn't matter if our funds are frozen.
i guess it is a good point

Oh, By the way I have a large number of ships on their way from DMG Military Industries for our use.
I honestly dont think that that is going to help us at the moment, because we are not in any conflicts.

So what are we doing with the military for the AFH Mirkana

I honestly dont think that that is going to help us at the moment, because we are not in any conflicts.

It means we have forces ready if we do get into any conflicts.

Well at the moment the Mirkanan army is for all intents and purposes the SWORD branch of the AFH. We do have a highly-trained, well equipped army, and thanks to mandatory military service, virtually every Mirkanan citizen is in the army.

Now, Mirkana's main weakness is in our navy. Our long-ranged tiltrotor transports mean we don't have to worry about the sea as much. While our fleet is far from weak, it is a light attack force meant for raiding or protecting our carriers - of which we have two. A third is scheduled for launch later this year.

I have noticed that Drexel Hillsville seems to have a good navy. Perhaps we should create a joint naval command? If your men aren't comfortable with serving under a foreign commander, don't worry. With your emphasis on naval affairs, Remmol will probably pick a Drexel admiral to command the naval department of SWORD. Mirkanan generals can handle the army and air force.

True IRA, what are your plans for the BOW department?

MelekTaus, I agree with most of what you said. What we need is an actual foe. An enemy to fight.

Maybe someone ought to commit some kind of atrocity within their territory to attract enemies, but not something to get the big democracies against us, ie not genocide.

Any ideas?

Well at the moment the Mirkanan army is for all intents and purposes the SWORD branch of the AFH. We do have a highly-trained, well equipped army, and thanks to mandatory military service, virtually every Mirkanan citizen is in the army.

Now, Mirkana's main weakness is in our navy. Our long-ranged tiltrotor transports mean we don't have to worry about the sea as much. While our fleet is far from weak, it is a light attack force meant for raiding or protecting our carriers - of which we have two. A third is scheduled for launch later this year.

I have noticed that Drexel Hillsville seems to have a good navy. Perhaps we should create a joint naval command? If your men aren't comfortable with serving under a foreign commander, don't worry. With your emphasis on naval affairs, Remmol will probably pick a Drexel admiral to command the naval department of SWORD. Mirkanan generals can handle the army and air force.

True IRA, what are your plans for the BOW department?

MelekTaus, I agree with most of what you said. What we need is an actual foe. An enemy to fight.

Maybe someone ought to commit some kind of atrocity within their territory to attract enemies, but not something to get the big democracies against us, ie not genocide.

Any ideas?

Currently, I m involved in assisting Soviet Forces in repelling an uncalled for attack against a recently revolutionised and created Communist force known as the "All Soviet States." As long as you feel ok to help out commie forces, which I am more inclined to do after witnessing rough treatment by the WACL to CAPITALIST nations, then we can use this conflict. My West Fleet is already present in the area, and about to engage. Do see the "Febuary Revolution" topic.

The DMG ships I mentioned earlier should arrive tommorow. They will arrive in the port of Downings by 1800 hours. From their we will have to decide how we split the ships up or where to strategicly place them.

We will have:
135x CG-47 Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
135x DD-963 SPRUANCE Class Destroyer
135xDDG-51 Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyer
90x FFG-7 Oliver Hazard Perry Class
60x CVN-68 Nimitz-class
30x CVN-65 Enterprise
75xOhio Class SSGN 726
120x SSN-774 Virginia Class
90x SSN-688 Los Angeles Class
90x LPD 4 Austin Class
150x PC-1 Cyclone Class
105x CGN 36 California Class
300x Landing Craft, Air Cushion
150x Mark V Special Operations Craft
3000x Rigid-hull Inflatable Boat (RIB)
3x Empire Class Carrier
3x Admiral Class Carrier
3x Valkyrie Class Helicopter Assault Carrier
6x Hunter Class Submarine
6x Nautilus Class Submarine
6x Dolphin Class Submarine
12x Stingray Class Cruiser
12xThunder Class Cruiser
6x Flank Class Destroyer
6x Search Class Detroyer
9x LC-2 Intruder Class Landing Craft
3x Lord Class Battleship
3x Orca Class Battleship
6x Chieftain Class Pocket Battleship

I find the price I got a bargin,
1.8 trillion.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I think you have more ships than the US Navy! I mean, the US only has 62 Los Angeles class subs (after all, only 62 were ever built, and all are still in service)!

well what i am doing with the nuclear weapons isnt very special i am currently in development of a new kind of nuclear weapon but it might take awhile, thank you for the concern though.

i am sorry but i can not reveal what it is in case other major alliances are snooping sround in here, i am sorry for the set back

Look, we need a way to get more people into the alliance, we need to recriut!

who's job is that not mine for sure, what about the people in the IRA Stronghold

Xharn has gone through a change in government. I am going to be checking with him to see his loyalty.

did you find out... Xharn are you still loyal to AFH???

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He is.
>_>
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From The Office of The President of Republic

I don't approve of this organization. We will let you be, but be warn if you anything wrong. We will act, I hope that such thing will not happen. We will be watching you.

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We have an enemy! The Corporate States has attacked a Luchaman colony, and several Mirkanan-owned factories have been destroyed, with all the workers killed or raped.

Thread is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10448747&posted=1#post10448747).

Did you even check out CorpSac before you got involved?

No, my mistake.

OK, I checked the population figures. Combined, the AFH population is about 4.483 billion, about 500 million short of CorpSac. Even adding Luchamos won't be quite enough.

When you add Aequatio, which is also fighting CorpSac, we have double the enemy's pop.

So we can probably win. Besides, we could send a greater portion of our armies to attack. We know what CorpSac has sent. We simply send more, and we have Drexel Hillsville blockade the colony, preventing CorpSac from sending reinforcements.

The problem is that with the number and strenght of ships he has in the area it leaves out shores open to attack and he may use that to his advantage.

I say that we vote on getting involved or not and if we do then we vote on the amount of troops we are willing to devotee to it.

when is the voting taking place

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TO: AFH Members
From: Code Name: Azrael

We need to go public. We need to clean this planet of the plague that is democracy. I agree that it can be usefull, IF, and only if, it can be contained and limited. We must start to bring the traitors of the world to their knees and try them for crippling the safety of their own people

Message End

I wish to withdraw from my current as the Horsemen of Plague.
It has come to my attention that an uprising is pro democratic alliance forming and they have heard of us, which isn't very good. I wish to stay in an alliance with you members and i will make another thread for the members of the AFH. I wish you the best of luck and will either TG you on the thread or post it here. I bid good day.

I feel that it is time that the alliance dissolves. I am withdrwing my position and I too feel that it was going no where. If any of the remaining members wish to try an keep it going than go for it. I bid you farewell...