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Ultimatum to Entsteig [closed to all but me, Entsteig, and Karchozia]

Jaghur
28-11-2005, 18:01
Official Directive from The United Capitalist Republic of Jaghur

To the nation of Entsteig:

Due to past actions of the nation of Entsteig and their (seemingly) utter disregard of our nation as an international power, we have no choice but to declare war, unless the Steigian government endorses and follows the Articles of Surrender. The following are the Articles of Surrender, already endorsed by the Jaghurian Ministry and passed by the Jaghurian Senate:

Ultimatum

This document was created for the sole purpose of the submission of Entsteig

Theodore Johnson
Secretary to the Prime Jaghuran

Articles

I. The nation of Entsteig will not engage in any warfare with the nations of Jaghur and Karchozia

II. The nation of Entsteig will also not engage in any warfare with the puppet nations of Jaghur and Karchozia

III. The Royal Steigian Military, meaning the Royal Steigian Army, the Royal Steigian Navy, the Royal Steigian Air Force, and any other extraneous divisions, shall not exceed 50,000 personnel, whether active or inactive.

IV. The number of vessels in the Royal Steigian Navy shall not exceed 50. The number of aircraft in the Royal Steigian Air Force shall not exceed 150.

V. The nation of Entsteig will withdraw from any territorial holdings, but may keep them as protectorates and proctetorates only

VI. The nation of Entsteig will be allowed to keep its sovereignty, but government monitors and secret service members from Jaghur and Karchozia will be dispatched to Entsteig to monitor Entsteig’s policies.

VII. Trade limitations will be set upon the nation of Entsteig and will be enforced by the navies of Jaghur and Karchozia. Any smuggling operations will be ended if discovered.

VIII. The nation of Entsteig must comply with all but one of articles three through seven. The first two articles are required.

Penalties

I. Any governmental official will be subject to arrest if they resist any part of the articles, or are found corroborating with an enemy of Jaghur or Karchozia.

II. Any governmental official will be subject to a life sentence if they are involved in a resistance movement.

III. Entsteig citizens are also subject to arrest for the previous reasons, but none will serve a life sentence.

IV. If the government takes away the rights of its citizens in any way, shape, or form, it will be abolished and a new government, the type of which will be determined by the citizens, will be put into effect.

V. The militaries of Jaghur and Karchozia will be brought in to subdue nationwide rebellion.

Final Statement

If the nation of Entsteig does not sign the articles, war will be declared.

END

Robert Kruger
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Andrew Thurston
Minister of Defense

Joseph Greyson
Jaghurian Army
Commander-in-Chief

John W. Ralanson
Prime Jaghuran
Aloria, Jaghur


OOC: Remember that Jaghur is bordered to the South by an impassable mountain range with the rest by the ocean, so a land attack is impossible without first having an aerial drop or sea invasion. All cities on the coast are defended and have ports. The navy patrols the 50 nm line. Any unknown ship will be considered hostile until proven to be an ally or a neutral party.
Entsteig
30-11-2005, 05:08
Official Response from The Holy Kingdom of Entsteig:

Why not just annex and partition Entsteig altogether? It would be less work for you, would it not? This is just a front for your economic and imperialistic ambitions. This is a completely unacceptable ultimatum and will most certainly not be accepted.

Or why not line up our citizens before your militaries and have them executed? Trade limitations would just plunge our nation into poverty.

Our answer? A resounding "no". Past actions as a partial catalyst for this? What past actions? Entsteig has not wronged Karchozia, Jaghur, or any of their puppets in anyway.

We have proof of the pettiness of Jaghur, Karchozia, and their allies. These documents speak for themselves. Any nations possibly involved in this conflict--in the future--must first determine whether they would support such actions initiated by these nations. These documents are now public domain.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=394888
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=390626

You won't invade Entsteig without resistance. Of this we can assure you.

King Hedrik II
Sovereign of the Holy Kingdom of Entsteig
Entsteig
30-11-2005, 05:17
OOC: Additionally, Jaghur also has a force field surrounding the entire country and all its citizens possess military weapons and have extensive training. As a side note, the land in Jaghur will instantly open up and swallow any hostile sentient that sets foot on the country. Jaghur also has a wide and numerous array of missiles, such as nuclear InterContinental Ballistics Missiles and possesses extensive space-borne weaponry. All Jaghuran soldiers are invulnerable to any chemical, conventional, and nuclear weapons because of their innate abilities.
Jaghur
01-12-2005, 00:28
OOC: Additionally, Jaghur also has a force field surrounding the entire country and all its citizens possess military weapons and have extensive training. As a side note, the land in Jaghur will instantly open up and swallow any hostile sentient that sets foot on the country. Jaghur also has a wide and numerous array of missiles, such as nuclear InterContinental Ballistics Missiles and possesses extensive space-borne weaponry. All Jaghuran soldiers are invulnerable to any chemical, conventional, and nuclear weapons because of their innate abilities.

OOC: Please tell me this is a joke. However, I do have nuclear missiles, although it should be understood that in the event of war, no nation shall use nuclear or chemical weapons.

IC post coming shortly.
Red Tide2
01-12-2005, 02:55
OOC: Just popping in here to say that some of those are warrant for ignores.

OOC: Additionally, Jaghur also has a force field surrounding the entire country and all its citizens possess military weapons and have extensive training.

For the 'force field', thats FT, this is MT, nice try. For the military weapons, it means that you were able to arm 1/6 of your population before your economy imploded.

As a side note, the land in Jaghur will instantly open up and swallow any hostile sentient that sets foot on the country.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That is utterly THE WORST godmod I have EVER seen. OMGZ! YOU CANTZ INVADORZZ ME BECAUZE ME LAND WILL KILLORZ YOUR AMIEZZZ!!!111one. Nice try.

All Jaghuran soldiers are invulnerable to any chemical, conventional, and nuclear weapons because of their innate abilities.

It is physicly(SP?) impossible for any living being to be immune to conventional, chemical, and/or nuclear weapons(especially the last one). This is common sense.
Jaghur
01-12-2005, 03:46
OOC: Will you read who posted it? It was Entsteig, not me. I didn't say that. I am assuming he thought it was a joke. Also, this thread is CLOSED. Honestly, can't you people read? Now please delete your posts before I get really angry.
Jaghur
01-12-2005, 17:54
Official Directive from The United Capitalist Republic of Jaghur

To the nation of Entsteig:

Our pettiness then was due to the fact that our nation was young and brash. We are now none of these things. How can you justify insulting us again? We have grown into a power within the international community, and expect to be treated thus. Granted, I see how you would identify us as petty in those times.

In addition, how can you call us petty when your first actions were to ignore us and then insult us? Our first reasons for declaring war were, I admit, farfetched, but we improved them.

Since you refused our ultimatum, we have no choice but to declare war. The document is already drafted and will be endorsed by the Jaghurian Ministry and passed overwhelmingly by the Jaghurian Senate. Forces are mobilized and will attack as soon as possible. Be prepared.

Robert Kruger
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Andrew Thurston
Minister of Defense

Joseph Greyson
Jaghurian Army
Commander-in-Chief

John W. Ralanson
Prime Jaghuran
Aloria, Jaghur
Jaghur
02-12-2005, 02:15
OOC: I'm sorry dude, but I want to help out too. After reading those links you provided, I'm itching my fingers whether or not to direct the full brunt of my Manhattan Project at Eintsteig.

OOC: Unfortunately, you can't. I'm sorry, but the thread is closed. If you continue to post, I'm afraid I'll have to report you to the mods. Now please delete your posts. If you want to get involved in things, search for threads that are OPEN or that don't say CLOSED. Also, as a small nation, I would recommend not joining in a war. Strengthening your diplomatic relations by opening your nation to foreign ambassadors would be good, or you could try and get allies. Also, you want to make sure your posts are thorough. Saying that you're sending in the whatever division just out of the blue is indicative of a noob. You won't earn respect from the international community by doing that. Also, being new, you shouldn't have a Manhattan project or a very large army. People will think you're a godmodder. Trust me, I know from experience.
Entsteig
02-12-2005, 02:29
OOC: I was satirising Jaghur's impassable mountain range to the south.

Damn, you people are stupid. This remains closed because of the lack of intelligent outside involvement. Good Lord.
Read lots
02-12-2005, 05:24
OOC:
Hey, Entsteig, watch your language, there are little children that can read your posts, although why anyone would care what you say is beyond me. Oh, and as Read Lots, Wandering Companies and Kill Lots are part of the Rogue Alliance, we would liked to be recognized as such. I take it as an insult it be called a "puppet nation" of either Karchozia or Jaghur. We may be small and new nations, but do try and treat us with respect.
Jaghur
02-12-2005, 14:01
OOC:
Oh, and as Read Lots, Wandering Companies and Kill Lots are part of the Rogue Alliance, we would liked to be recognized as such. I take it as an insult it be called a "puppet nation" of either Karchozia or Jaghur.

OOC: Did we ever say that? NO. We said the 'puppet nations of Karchozia and Jaghur', not 'all the nations in Rogue Alliance are puppets of Karchozia and Jaghur.' Jeez, I'm surrounded by people who can't read.

As for the mountain range, I'm saying it's a futile attempt to cross it by land. You can definitely go over them by air, though.
Karchozia
03-12-2005, 06:11
Public Announcement
Issued From: Karchozian Delegate Vasil D'Anglas

Subject: Ultimatum

The Karchozian government fully recognizes and agrees with all the statements in the article. Seeing as Entsteig has refused to submit to these demands, we find no alternative than war. Our countries have been expecting such a move and our militaries are almost fully mobilized. This is the last chance Entsteig has to revoke its' statement.
Should Entsteig refuse this final chance of mercy, we will move against them will all available military powers. Their forces will be crushed and their lands taken. Then the demands in the ultimatum will be forced upon Entsteig, whether they like it or not. We ask the Entsteigian government to seriously reconsider.

Vasil D'Anglas
Regional Head of the Rogue Alliance
Entsteig
04-12-2005, 00:28
OOC: Read lots, what strong language have I used? Is the use of the word "stupid" now one of the seven deadly sins? Shut up, please. Whoever invited you in here?

IC:

If any nation here has any legitimate reason to move against Entsteig, it would be Jaghur. Karchozia apparently simply wants land and economic power. The terms of the ultimatum are completely absurd, written so that Entsteig would refuse and so that Karchozia, Jaghur, and their puppets (minus Read lots and its puppets) would jump at the chance to wantonly declare war. Warmongers! We condemn you for this and shall mobilise our troops with great alacrity.

Dr. Hamun R. Larotz
Chief Ambassador
Entsteig
04-12-2005, 00:39
OOC: I was also thinking about Red Tide2's post. For such an active member, he must be fairly idiotic. He apparently doesn't understand the concept of "sarcasm", or even "spelling". Should he rear his head in this thread again, he'll be thrown out...in a good Christian way, of course. Way to pay attention to details, inquisitive and nosy buddy!

Were those examples godmods? Wow! You must really be an observant person! I mean, not everyone could have noticed that. I'm sure almost everyone thought that it was a disadvantage to Jaghur's country, but...you are a genius! In fact, you ought to be a detective! I can just see your plaque right now. Not on your teeth, but on your table! "Red Tide2, Idiot Detective For Hire". You could be world-famous!

Read lots, I did not intend to address you as a puppet, but you're seemingly incapable of independent thought anyways, so I might as well refer to you as a puppet anyway. Why anyone would care what I say is beyond you, eh? What isn't? I cite the example of what Jaghur had previously posted. Do learn to pay attention to detail. I'm sure our resident prodigy Red Tide2 could definitely teach you to do that. I'm not saying you're an idiot, Read lots. Do remember that. Red Tide2, on the other end, though...heh.

Edit: Ah, right. I forgot to mention how Red Tide2 doesn't understand the concept of "closed". Silly me! Tee hee!
Karchozia
07-12-2005, 22:39
Official Announcement from the Karchozian Government

Upon reconsideration of the situation, Karchozia is withdrawing from this conflict. After much debate, the Karchozian Parlaiment has concluded that further aggression would not have any solid basis. To provoke a country into war has been deemed unethical foreign policy, and Karchozia refuses to take part in it. We officially withdraw support to either country and declare neutrality.
Any attack against a neutral nation will not be recieved lightly and we will be forced to take sides and call upon our numerous allies to come to our aid, in the event of an unprovoked attack.

Vasil D'Anglas
Regional Head of the Rogue Alliance