NationStates Jolt Archive

TO: All Governments; Privatized Rocket Companies; Privatized Spacelift Organizations; Space Agencies For Hire.

FROM: Prastrantsva Soyuz Construction and Technology Firm

Message: Hello, comrades. My name is Antonov Karolovich Tarschinkov, and I am the Chief Executive Officer of the PSCT. The PSCT is currently managing a project in space known as Proyekt Einherjar. Due to the massive amount of material needing to be boosted into orbit, the PSCT needs to contract other agencies, or rent shuttles and launch facilities.

For each launch on foreign soil with foreign shuttle/rockets, the PSCT is prepared to pay 25 million dollars.

For each launch on home soil with foreign shuttle/rockets, the PSCT is prepared to pay 15 million dollars.

For each launch on foreign soil with domestic shuttle/rockets, the PSCT will rent the facility for 10 million dollars.

I encourage all of you to facilitate the Prastrantsva Soyuz Construction and Technology Firm in our venture towards further exploration and research in space.

Signatory,
Antonov Karolovich Tarschinkov
CEO
Prastrantsva Soyuz Construction and Technology Firm (PSCT)

Message Terminates.

the tokera would be happy to allow you to launch shuttles from our land if you became our allie.We also will loan you two of our shuttles.

If you would lie to become our allie please let us know(TG my nation)

the tokera would be happy to allow you to launch shuttles from our land and we also will loan you two of our shuttles.

Before we can accept the deal and transfer payment, how many launch facilities does your nation contain? (For example, how many shuttles could be launched at once?)

ooc: Is this MT(modern tech) level?

we have 10 different launch facilities, and can launch up to 15 at a time.
Are you PMT or MT

ooc: Is this MT(modern tech) level?

OOC: Yes, correct. Modern Tech.

we have 10 different launch facilities, and can launch up to 15 at a time.
Are you PMT or MT

We will use all sites and rent your two shuttles.

The total is 180 million USD and has been wired immediately. Please clear the launch facilities until future notice as our technicians occupy them.

Signed,
Antonov Karolovich Tarschinkov

For modern tech we have 10 launch facilities. If you wish to become allies we will allow acess to all 10 launch facilities. If not you may use 5.

For PMT we have 20 different possible launch positions

For modern tech we have 10 launch facilities. If you wish to become allies we will allow acess to all 10 launch facilities. If not you may use 5.

For PMT we have 20 different possible launch positions


We will use all five launch pads and your two shuttles. We will pay 80 million USD for the use of these facilities/shuttles/rockets. The payment has been wired immediately.

Signed, Antonov Karolovich Tarschinkov

thank you the launch facilities will be made ready.

(ooc: i would help you but my shuttle technology is PMT as are my launching facilities. BY the way... 15 million dollars a launch is operating at a MASSIVE loos for the person whos shuttles are being launched if being launched via MT methods...

(ooc: i would help you but my shuttle technology is PMT as are my launching facilities. BY the way... 15 million dollars a launch is operating at a MASSIVE loss for the person whos shuttles are being launched if being launched via MT methods...

OOC: Thanks for your help anyways. But alas, the price is fair. If they are loaning me their shuttles I will of course pay for their launching on my facilities, you see.

(ooc: ok thats fine, i assume your supplying the blasted rockets to get th shuttles into space.. 5 million however is way to small if they are using theri launch vehicles to get the shuttles intospace.. [do some research into the cost of launching a nasa shuttle.])

(ooc: ok thats fine, i assume your supplying the blasted rockets to get th shuttles into space.. 5 million however is way to small if they are using theri launch vehicles to get the shuttles intospace.. [do some research into the cost of launching a nasa shuttle.])

OOC: NASA quotes each shuttle launch as costing about 40 million dollars. Industrialize and mass-scale the project you have the price down to about 25 million. (Consider if launching a shuttle were as common as launching satellites......the price would fall.)

(ooc: umm nope... because the majority of the coist is in the building of the rockets and the fuel though i suppose, if you were mass producing rockets... hrmm, i see your point. ooc points cheerfully withdrawn)

Bump. We need help.

To: Antonov Karolovich Tarschinkov, Prastrantsva Soyuz Construction and Technology Firm, Communist Rule
From: Kaylin Davis, Big Honkn' Space Gun Historical Society, Kanuckistan

Subject: Puchasing Spacelift

Salutations,

I am writing in response to your request, to let you know that the Big Honkn' Space Gun Historical Society would be willing to sell payload space to your government.

Our facilities consist of two subterranian mass launchers powered by offshore open-cycle Ocean Thermal Energy Converters. Both are capible of sending payloads into geostationary orbit, and should meet your technological requiorments.


BHSG MKI:
Max Payload to Geostationary Orbit: 5000 kilograms
Base Launch Cost: $2.5 M USD
Cost Per Kilogram/Payload: $145 USD
Turnaround Time: 23 Hours


BHSG MKII:
Max Payload to Geostationary Orbit: 45000 kilograms
Base Launch Cost: $5.1 M USD
Cost Per Kilogram/Payload: $125 USD
Turnaround Time: 36 Hours


Signed:
Kaylin Davis
Director Kaylin Davis,
Big Honkn' Space Gun Historical Society,
Kanuckistan

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BHSG MKII:
Max Payload to Geostationary Orbit: 45000 kilograms
Base Launch Cost: $5.1 M USD
Cost Per Kilogram/Payload: $125 USD
Turnaround Time: 36 Hours


Signed:
Kaylin Davis
Director Kaylin Davis,
Big Honkn' Space Gun Historical Society,
Kanuckistan

Dear Mr. Davis,
We would be delighted to inquire as to the "rental" of the BHSG MkII launch system. As it stands we will be launching enormous payloads very frequently and believe that it might be more efficient to pay a lump sum to lease the launcher, rather than pay the required cost per kilogram. Please reply with a possible price range for one month of use.

Thank you in advance,
Antonov Karolovich Tarschinkov

To: Antonov Karolovich Tarschinkov, Prastrantsva Soyuz Construction and Technology Firm, Communist Rule
From: Kaylin Davis, Big Honkn' Space Gun Historical Society, Kanuckistan

Subject: Re: Re: Purchasing Spacelift


Salutations,

The costs outlined include single-use shielded launch sled, maintenance and refit, power use, and personnel salaries, most of which are principally incurred on a per-launch basis. Cost per kilogram accounts for increased power requirements and equipment wear, as well as larger sleds, incurred as payload mass increases.

If you want to rent the launcher, lump sum, for the entire month, we would have to charge you for maximum theoretical use you could incur - that being twenty launches at full 45 metric ton payloads, at $10'725'000 USD per launch, or $214'500'000 USD overall. Thus, you could only stand to loose money if and when your operational pace fell behind the launcher's maximum cycle rate.

Additionally, we have infrequent launches already scheduled for the next few years, typically once every two or so weeks, and we are under contractual obligation to make our facilities available for these.

As such, it would be in the best interests of both parties, I think, if you were to follow our existing pricing scheme.



Signed:
Kaylin Davis
Director Kaylin Davis,
Big Honkn' Space Gun Historical Society,
Kanuckistan



OOC:
And the character's a Ms.

(ooc: ive been reading around and it actually costs $100 million to launch a shuttle and $500 million (including launch) to keep a shuttle space worthy... so of course withy lots of shuttles, i actually doubt this would decrease sufficiently enough for 25 mil to be worth a launch. This is why I opted to use shuttles capable of takeoff/landing from landing strips. <subnote> I am going to be submitting my ideas to the NS stats team for them to help me with the stats for my PMT shuttles)

IC:
TO:Communist Rule
FROM:EASA (Exetonian Aerospace Assosiation)

We would be willing to sell you 25 mothballed shuttles for your own uses at a decreased cost of $50 million per shuttle. The reason for this decreased cost is the fact that they are useless to us now that we have an advanced space program (ooc:check out my historical factbook)

(ooc: oh the joys of rp'ing between MT and PMT)

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