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The United States of Driverco announces the creation of an International Criminal Court in its capital, Georgetown.

The purpose of this court is to try criminal cases of international importance, such as acts of genocide, war crimes and acts of state-sponsored terrorism.

Nations can lodge cases, which are heard independent of this or any other government, at the court's website at: www.driverco.co.nr.

An international court is a good idea and The Armed Republic of Ziborian would support it but the obvious question comes to mind... what judges would do the final dicisons and what happens if there is an overload of cases? Are you going to make criminals wait for along time....

Otagia does not recognize the legitimacy of this organization, and any attempt to enforce decisions made by the ICC on Otagian soil will be met by the full force of the Otagian Military.

The Imperial Shogunate of Pschycotic Pschycos also refuses to recognize any such court. We will also use military force to prevent any ICC desicions from being carried out on our soil.

the Armed Republic of Ziborian fully supports the international criminal court and will defend the country it is in if any attempts or actions of war are made on the hosting country of the icc Ziborian will go to war to defend it!!!!

Ziberian is puting its military on standby to prepare to defend Diverco and the icc

Give it a rest dude, no one is making offensive threats. We are threatening on the case of self-denfense.

Thank you for your support.

The ICC and the Driverco government are grateful for your pledge of support, both in terms of the court and the help of your military.

Judges are appointed with the consent of both the claimant and the defendant nations. Judges are drawn from another ICC member state and one which is completely independent of the charges and/or the incidents concerned.

The Supreme Court of Driverco has no jurisdiction over the ICC, however, should there be an overload of cases, the Supreme Court, acting as a ICC Pro Tempore, will hear the case but still be subject to the ruling of the ICC member jury, as per the normal mechanics of the ICC.

To become a member of the ICC, please visit the website at:

www.brunswickbuffet.com/ICC.html


Thank you


Robert Schneider
Head of the ICC

AMF openly mocks the creation of this International Criminal Court, and refuses to acknowledge its existance or authority. Any atttempt by the ICC to force its agenda upon AMF will result in grave consequences.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

By the way,

The appreciation for support was directed at Ziborian.

Any attempt to physically attack the ICC court will be considered an act of war against the United States of Driverco.

The USD reserves the right to defend its nation and I am confident that any country, involved in the promotion of democracy and justice will condemn such an act of aggression through the United Nations.

Who knows, you may even find your country on trial !

The ICC represents the voice of all nations in the pursuit of justice. If this can only be achieved through economic sanctions or even direct military action, then so be it.

the icc is a brilliant idea in order to enforce criminal law... it will only deal with things such as genocide and war crimes as far as i understand... It will not deal with domestic matters that countries them selves can deal with those but with genocide and war crimes it is necessary for the icc

Minister Hartman,

The ICC does not wish to force its agenda on any country.

All we ask is that governments respect the wishes of other nations who wish to pursue crimes without the need to resort to military action.

An ICC trial costs very little; both financially and in terms of human casualties.

By using the ICC to pursue crimes that could, in the future, be committed against your nation; wouldn't it be far easier and more politically positive to refer such allegations to the ICC.

Driverco,

is there anything that ziborian can do to help with the court or anything to defend it...

Ziborian,

Thank you for your enquiry.

The ICC will only deal with those crimes which cannot be ordinarily dealt with in a domestic arena, as they are crimes which have far greater international ramifications, i.e. genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes.

Domestic disputes such as terrorism (unless state-sponsored), felonies and misdemeanours will continue to be dealt with by ICC member states.


Thank you.

no problem just send a telegram if for any reason the icc is being delibertaley attacked upon and if u need help..

Open Message to International Community

The McKagan Imperium hereby rejects all notions that an international court is either needed or wanted. During the named instances where such an organization could be used, most nations would remove the situation by negotiations and/or spam cruise missile attacks. We view this attempt to grab power as nothing more as a semi-fascist act by inferior nations to try and force their rule and administration upon the affairs of foreign nations. Any attempts to include yourself in a McKagan situation will result in military action.

--McKagan State Department

Ziborian,

You can certainly help us !

As one of the first member states to express an interest in the ICC, I would like to appoint you as a permanent founding member of the court.

This position allows you to sit on all trials (unless you are either a complainant or a defendant), to appoint and remove judges, to enter new proposals for legislation, sanctions and punishments and to be permanent defender of the ICC building in Georgetown, USD.

As defender of the ICC building, you will act as an autonomous defence force outside the jurisdiction of the Driverco federal government and will be expected to maintain a permanent military presence at the facility (much like the Swiss Guard in the Vatican).

Thank you.

By the way,

The appreciation for support was directed at Ziborian.

Any attempt to physically attack the ICC court will be considered an act of war against the United States of Driverco.

The USD reserves the right to defend its nation and I am confident that any country, involved in the promotion of democracy and justice will condemn such an act of aggression through the United Nations.

Who knows, you may even find your country on trial !

The ICC represents the voice of all nations in the pursuit of justice. If this can only be achieved through economic sanctions or even direct military action, then so be it.

We are NOT going to take any offensive actions. Even if you did, you could complain to the UN all you like. We DON'T recoginize THEM either. If you put our country on trial, expect us to disregard it. If you try to put blockades, trade sanctions, or attempt to ENTER the country at any time, we will use military force out of self defense. You all are warned.

oh course and we are honored to have such recognition we will do anything you ask to protect the icc and maintain justice amoung countries ....any other details will be greatly appreciated

thank you

McKagan State Department,

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.

However, I do reject your suggestion that the creation of the ICC is a semi-fascist act, as the primary objective of the ICC is the pursuit of justice.

While it is true that the ICC is located within the United States of Driverco (or as you so unnecessarily put it, "a inferior nation"), the ICC is completely independent of the Driverco government and its judgements made entirely by ICC members, of which you too are eligible to become.

The ICC has no political agenda, nor does it have the desire to impose its rules on other nations.

Putting it simply; if you do not wish to be part of it then okay.

If, however, a complaint is lodged against your country, would it not be politically prudent to accept the will of the many, rather than your own insular view on what is a democractic, fair and open organisation ?

Belarum,

Thank you for your complaint of War Crimes, which was lodged this evening at the ICC building in Georgetown, USD.

A judge has been appointed and I will notify you, shortly of the date for a trial (likely to be within the next 48 hrs.)

Thank you,


Robert Schneider
International Criminal Court

Driverco

Who set up the ICC? Who gave them permits to build their buildings? Who's capital city is it in? We ask you; are you sure it being located in your nation means nothing?

From that, we would also like to point out that the majority of the time a court isn't needed. Take for instance two incidents where the Saharistan War Coalition captured members of the al Zarqawi/Global Jihad organization, along with Paul Kaufman's shipment to an outside nation.

In each incident the offenders who had commited warcrimes, genocide, and other offenses, were put on trial in the nation who captured them.

We aren't rejecting a trial altogether. Only one organized and standing so close to another government.

--McKagan State Department

Belarum,

Thank you for your complaint of War Crimes, which was lodged this evening at the ICC building in Georgetown, USD.

A judge has been appointed and I will notify you, shortly of the date for a trial (likely to be within the next 48 hrs.)

Thank you,


Robert Schneider
International Criminal Court

Belarum,

Thank you for your complaint of War Crimes, which was lodged this evening at the ICC building in Georgetown, USD.

A judge has been appointed and I will notify you, shortly of the date for a trial (likely to be within the next 48 hrs.)

Thank you,


Robert Schneider
International Criminal Court

Driverco,

How will i know what is happening with the court and what i can do???

McKagan,

While it is true that the ICC is indeed located in Georgetown, USD and the permit for its construction issued by the USD federal government; what does it matter ?

The ICC could be located anywhere and still operate as an independent forum to put on trial those accused of war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide.

The specific cases which you have quoted may have been tried in the countries ivolved, but of course this begs a similar question as to that which you posed - where is the independence ?

If you are suggesting that the ICC beacuse it is based in Driverco is biased toward that government, then were not the trials you mentioned also biased ?

The ICC does not pass judgement. That is the job of a jury. The ICC simply assigns a judge to precide over the case and to pass sentence where appropriate.

Ziborian,

I will keep you updated on a daily basis as to the business of the court.

In fact, a complaint of war cimes has just been lodged at the ICC and I wish to appoint you as the presiding judge.

I am in the process of obtaining the full details of the case and will forward these to you shortly.



Schneider

ok sounds good just send the details to my telegram box in nation states...

The Internationalist

A Tribute to an Old Idea Reborn,
But it is a Still Birth

Once again the idea of a World Court has risen up from the depths of the world's unconcious memory to be seen again. This time in the form of the International Criminal Court of Georgetown. The ICC(G), as I will refer to it, not to confuse it with the several similar courts brought forth in the preceeding century, is presently backed by the nation of Driverco and Ziborian. The second nation is the apparent reason the Outer Ministry has stayed quiet on this matter as Ziborian is seen as a promising new market by several large trading firms and conglomerates that wish to expand operations into the small republic.

First, the idea has always had merit. How many times has any rational individual read the paper and wondered if some god awful conflict could have been more easily resolved by simple negotation and or trial of some 'international law' offender? It is an idea which has massive promise and always shall. But then promise in this case has not translated into solid benifits.

The history of the World Courts, as the ICC(G) obviously counts, is one of great promise but dismal failure. Nor has the United Duchies not seen and been part of many of those grand failures. Never has a World Court, or even an "international criminal court" been able to do much more than cause massive outlays of cash, time, and in the end fustration.

Early after the Unification of Hubris and Alcona, we followed Vrak into a World Court to deal with the Meneclamari--Christofi mess over some incidents of the slaughter of sin. The Duke sent his own daughter to help with security. And what occured? Was there any resolution? The elven queen never showed in what was likely one of the largest, best orginized international trials in the history of the world. Three 'impartial' judges, several overlapping levels of security, and the elves slapped the great walruses in the face by not even presenting their case. This failure even today has reprocusions on us in the Federation with Vrakian distrust of outsiders, including the United Duchies, so high.

Then came the World Court orginized by Ur. Similar in many ways to the ICC(G), the World Court of Ur only held 1/2 of a trial. This trial, the trial of Dante for War Crimes against several of the members of his region including Dezel, never reached more than the preliminary stages. With such heavy weights and Nathi and Ur himself the thing quickly became a farce.

Today's ICC(G) and the other World Court variants suffer even more problems. They are not supported by nations of the stature that Ur and others had. How will they even hope to enforce their decisions upon other states? No the world is not ready for a World Court, and the present incarnations are nothing more than a farce.

George Pilburn
Senior Editor
The Internationalist

Mr. Pilburn,

You do indeed, raise a valid point.

There have been a number of similar attempts to establish a world court and as you have correctly stated, have each met with failure.

However, the ICC in Georgetown, USD is rather different in that it is actually managed by a real-world criminal barrister (lawyer) and that its legitimacy will be established in due course through the participation and commitment of nations such as Ziborian, Belarum, the region of Yucania and by the large number of nations, each committed to the pursuit of justice and liberty that will, no doubt, be attracted.

Make no mistake, this court is here to stay.

***OFFICIAL IMPERIAL PROCLIMATION***
To: All Involved
From: Emperor Galen Q. Leotardia

The Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom herby states it's oppinion on the creation of an International Court. We feel that it is the soul responsibility of a nation to have it's own court proceedings and thus these will not interfeer with the development and soverignty of any other nation. Thus we believe that the Creation of this International Criminal Court will not be recognised within the boarders of the Pure Socialist Holy Empire of any of it's Colonies. If there is any attempt at this International Criminal Court to arrest and/or try any Civilian, Government Official, or Military Personell from the Pure Socialist Holy Empire or any of it's Colonies, there will be dire consiquences. If any member nation of the International Criminal Court attempts to land any Court Appointees on the soverign territory of the Pure Socialist Holy Empire, they will be arrested on sight as spies and tried accordingly.

Thus is the Will of the Emperor and Thus will be done.

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This court will dearly regret it should it interfere with the business of the Consortium in any way.

:rolleyes:

Statement from the Foreign Ministry, on Behalf of the Czar, Concerning the ICC(G)

While the Czar respects the nations involved to establish a so-called "International Criminal Court," the Divine Prussian Empire of Derscon, as well as the members of the Greater Prussian Empire, shall have no part in what is simply a means to slowly eat away at national soveregnty.

I would like to reaffirm the fact that the Czar has clearly stated that the ICC(G) and the UN, or any related bodies, shall never, under any circumstances, have their athourity sanctioned or honoured by the Dersconi Imperial Government, or over the Greater Prussian Empire. Any attempts to force such athourity on either Derscon or the Greater Prussian Empire will be met with a swift, calculated, and total military assault against offending nations. However, the Greater Prussian Empire, nor the Dersconi Empire, will not assault a nation simply because of their wish to take part in an international organization, flawed as they may be.

On behalf of the Czar of Derscon and Emperor of Greater Prussia;

Deo Vindice.

Count Franz von Papen
Foreign Minister to the Czar
The Divine Prussian Empire of Derscon

Minister Hartman,

The ICC does not wish to force its agenda on any country.

All we ask is that governments respect the wishes of other nations who wish to pursue crimes without the need to resort to military action.

An ICC trial costs very little; both financially and in terms of human casualties.

By using the ICC to pursue crimes that could, in the future, be committed against your nation; wouldn't it be far easier and more politically positive to refer such allegations to the ICC.


Absolutely not.

Automagfreek handles all aggressions and atrocities against it with an iron fist, and we do not believe in human rights outside of our boundaries. It is already common knowledge that Automagfreek does not tolerate insolence towards it, and we are also known worldwide for our...colorful display of what happens when one chooses to cross the Empire. Why should we need some court to handle our affairs?

The AMF government sees no need for this court, and points out that aside from military action there is no way for the ICC to enforce its own rulings. Pray tell me how you plan on putting a genocidal leader on trial? Simply ask him politely to be removed from his nation and thrown into court? Pleeeaaase....

The ICC will fail like all other international courts before it, several ironically holding the exact same name. Automagfreek doubts that anyone will respect ICC 'authority' when it is turned against them, and we ourselves do not see it as a legitimate organization.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

The United States of Driverco announces the creation of an International Criminal Court in its capital, Georgetown.

The purpose of this court is to try criminal cases of international importance, such as acts of genocide, war crimes and acts of state-sponsored terrorism.

Nations can lodge cases, which are heard independent of this or any other government, at the court's website at: www.driverco.co.nr.

To: Driverco Diplomats
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: International Court

We respectfully submit to you that while the concept of a world court is indeed noble, it can never come to fruition. This is because that no court has ever had the military clout to enforce its decisions.

Consider this in another manner. What court would ever be able to force the FKC, or for that matter Greater Prussia or Gholgoth, into a decision it does not agree with? This is not a boast, but simply the reality of the times we live in.

You would need overwhelming force to met out such punishment, and so far, no one has been able to do this. If the Triumvirate of Yut, arguably one of the most powerful factions in the NS universe, is unwilling to support a world court, and past history has indicated that they are extremely reluctant to do so, then what hope do you have?

There are other methods that can accomplish the goals that you seek.

The Federation of Marc Janson fully supports a Internation Crime Court and has already applied to become a member.

The Federation of Marc Janson has a fully protected and safe prison for international criminals and will use this if this is requested.


All Country's that attack the country Ziborian will get a UN procedure.

Thank You,
Prime Minister and Minister of Defence
Marc Janson, Kans Koyake

From: Provincial Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Cyro
To: Driverco Diplomatic Corp

Dyelli Beybi wishes to let it be known that we do not accept the legitimacy of any 'World Court' and wish to let it be known that as such Dyelli Beybi does not recognise the findings or demands of any such establishment to be legal.

Naturally Dyelli Beybi would be willing to reconsider the matter were the majority of Klatchian States to chose to support the scheme. Dyelli Beybi has been involved in International Courts in the Past, namely the Court dealing with the case of Genocide brought against Christofi by Menelmacar. We feel the results of this trial were highly satisfactory but are reluctant to believe that any Court sitting outside of Klatch would be similarly well run.

Commisaar Antonov
Secretary to the Minister of Foreign Affairs

Oh my god, are you just going to talk about legitimacy or are you actually going to do some cases? By the way, this court dosen't really impinge on sovereignity. It's not a "world court" where nations solve their disputes. This is where international criminals are tried. So as long as an ICC member captures the criminal, he/she can be tried by the ICC.

By the way, the Merkar Republic endorses the International Criminal Court. We have recently arrested Ulong Zemin, international terrorist-for-hire known for his use of suitcase nukes. We wish to try him in front of the ICC and want all nations who have any evidence against him or for him to present it.

Oh my god, are you just going to talk about legitimacy or are you actually going to do some cases? By the way, this court dosen't really impinge on sovereignity. It's not a "world court" where nations solve their disputes. This is where international criminals are tried. So as long as an ICC member captures the criminal, he/she can be tried by the ICC.

By the way, the Merkar Republic endorses the International Criminal Court. We have recently arrested Ulong Zemin, international terrorist-for-hire known for his use of suitcase nukes. We wish to try him in front of the ICC and want all nations who have any evidence against him or for him to present it.

Athiesism,

Thank you for your support.

Congratulations on capturing Ulong Zemin. This alleged terrorist has eluded capture for some time and his arrest is a credit to your nation's commitment to fight global terrorism and to the dedication of your country's law enforcement agencies.

Ulong Zemin is accused of Crimes Against Humanity and to that end, I have assigned a Judge from the nation of Ziborian to hear the case.

Details of the trial will be posted on the ICC website from 15:30 GMT, 16/11/05.

I would ask you to prepare a file of evidence against Zemin and forward this to the Court as soon as possible.

In light of the seriousness of the charges against Zemin, extra security has been drafted to police the ICC and your prosecuting counsel on their arrival.



Robert Schneider
Head of the ICC

In the case of the ICC v the nation of Neoma, where a charge of Genocide was made against the Neoma President; the ICC has, today, received a plea of guilty from the Neoma President.

After carefully reviewing the case His Honour Judge Robert Schneider has dismissed the jury and passed a sentence of LIFE against the President; to be served in a prison to be decided by member States.

The plea of guilty was entered by proxy and the sentence passed in absentia.

Judge Schneider has issued an international arrest warrant for the President of Neoma.

Mr. Zemin has been accused of the following violations of international law:

1. Unlawful possesion of nuclear material. Mr. Zemin was located in his apartment possesing materials that were believed to be intended for use as triggers for a nuclear device. Blueprints on the construction of this device, often reffered to as a "suitcase nuke", were also located. No nuclear material of any kind under his possesion has yet been located, but by inference we suspect that he possesed or intended to posses enriched radioative material of the types Uranium-235 or Plutonium-235.

2. Mass Murder. Mr. Zemin is believed to have masterminded several attacks using both suitcase-carried nuclear devices and a variety of incendiaries. There have been numerous cases of these offences throughout the galaxy, and we call upon all nations to list the offences commited against them by Mr. Zemin. Although we have no legal right to accuse him for crimes against another nation when the evidence is insufficient, he is believed to have led or performed the following attacks on Merkar nationals:

1. Nuclear detonation of Galactic Trade Towers on Oct. 4th, 2070. The attack took place outside our country, but 54 men, women and children bearing Merkari citizenship were killed or wounded. Mr. Zemin is believed to have been hired specifically for the hit; employer is unknown.

3. Conspiracy to commit mass murder. Mr. Zemin is believed to have planned to commit the following crimes:

1. Failed chemical weapon attack on Merkar Republic public transportation, Jan. 16th, 2072. Motive unknown. A supply of nerve gas was located in a service station near a Merkari Maglev terminus. Forensic investigation determined that Mr. Zemin had handled it.

2. Suspected to have played a role in recent incendiary weapon attack on Merkar Republic passenger freighter Blue Star on November 9th, 2075.

Our prosecutor team is currently preparing a more thorough explanation of Mr. Zemin's complicity in the above actions, along with an investigation into other terrorist acts he may have taken part of but has not yet been confirmed to have committed. Regardless, we believe that these crimes alone are sufficient to condemn him. Once again, we ask all other nations to supply evidence regarding Zemin's attacks on their countries.

FutureEngland Offical Message to ICC

The Goverment of FutureEngland hereby declares that any 'world court' shall not be recognised and that if any citizen of FutureEngland be captured and put on trail wether they be citizens, military or Special forces acting behind enemy lines they will be rescued by force.

End of Message

In the case of the ICC v the nation of Neoma, where a charge of Genocide was made against the Neoma President; the ICC has, today, received a plea of guilty from the Neoma President.

After carefully reviewing the case His Honour Judge Robert Schneider has dismissed the jury and passed a sentence of LIFE against the President; to be served in a prison to be decided by member States.

The plea of guilty was entered by proxy and the sentence passed in absentia.

Judge Schneider has issued an international arrest warrant for the President of Neoma.


Bothwell Offers President of Neoma Sanctuary

Today a formal offer of sanctuary was made by Lord Bothwell to the President of Neoma upon the charges of 'Genocide' and the issue of an 'international arrest warrant' by said body.

"First, with a crime of the magnitude of Genocide how is it that this International Criminal Court can accept a guilty plea by proxy? And who/ what was this proxy? What establishment is given of the legal standing of this supposed "proxy?" Second, I find it horrific that for such a crime the individual was tried in absentia. Obviously, they could have a Grand Jury investigation in absentia to issue an inditement, but to try and convict him. Somehow this all smells to high heven!"

Lord Bothwell has long been a thorn in the side of the Royal Family of the United Duchies. However he has increased in promienance since serving at the Klatchian Regent for Neo Tyr. Some believe that he gained billions from his corrupt administration of the Territory.

"I dare say that any attempt by the ICC(G) to remove this gentleman from the United Duchies will result in an extradition trial before the Grand Duke himself. In a forum which will expose the rotten decay of the ICC!"

The State Government of the United Duchies has made no offical comment upon the ICC or upon its recent ruling. However Klatch watchers note with both anti-ICC statements from Vrak and Dyelli Beybi recently, any relationship between the ICC and the Federation looks quite dim.

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Any attempt to harbour an international fugitive will result in military action being taken by the United States of Driverco military.

Marc Janson,

Once again, thank you for your offer of providing prison space for ICC convicts.

The President of Neoma is currently at large and it is likely that one or more foreign governments may harbour him.

As soon as he is arrested, I would very much like to take you up on your offer and have the President imprisoned in your country.


Thank you,


Schneider, ICC

OOC: hate to be a party pooper by you threaten people with military action from your country, well you got 50,000 military personnel tops and most of my citys have a bigger redisence than your military a few times over, just a warning some times its a dog eat dog world, you may think its a puny nation but once you count up their allies there military maybe be bigger than your whole nation several times over

Any attempt to harbour an international fugitive will result in military action being taken by the United States of Driverco military.
The Sovereign Nation of Ald Rhun graciously offers safe haven to any of those people unjustly "convicted" by the sham of the ICC. Rest assured that our military might is more than enough to ward off any attempted extraction attempts by the pitiful nation of Driverco.

Lord High Marshall Heinrich
Commander of the Military Forces of Ald Rhun

The Republic of Belarum expresses its want for a stronger world community, and wishes to see this court or a court of it's nature to be created by the United Nations.

The Republic of Belarum will not offer aid to any foreign citizens tried and convicted by the Interantional Criminal Court.

Shazbotdom News Network

In todays news, Parliament passed new legislation that will be enacted within the next 24 hours. The new legislation is in responce to the creation of the new International Criminal Court. In a press conference today, the Speaker of the Parliament stated "This is to help protect the saftey of the people in the Pure Socialist Holy Empire. We will not be pushed around by a group of nations who's bias will arrest anyone who they feel is 'unworthy' of their position or violate laws that don't exist in their home country."

The law then appears on the screen.

OFFICIAL IMPERIAL LAW
Law Name: Arrest Warrant for International Criminal Court
Law #: 34552K957L164-2005
Passed On: November 16, 2005

Law Purpose: To Protect the Naitonal Soverignty of the Pure Socialit Holy Empire of Shazbotdom through the complete distrust for the International Criminal Court and it's member states.

Law Functions: The Unconditional Arrest of any and all people associated with the International Criminal Court who enter the Pure Socialist Holy Empire.

Law Actions: Arrest of ICC Members who enter the Pure Socialist Holy Empire and detantion at Kahrand Prison Island Compled. Punishments to be determined by the Prison Warden.

Law Enact Date: By the Blessed signiture of the Royal Emperor, Galen Q. Leotardia. This is enacted this Blessed Day, November 16, 2005.

The Imperial Shogunate hereby offers assylum to the Neoma President and any others wrongfully accused. SHould nations of the ICC attack any nation who is harboring him as well, we shall defend them from the ICC's tyranny.

Shogun Himura Kenshin

The Serapindalian Imperiam will give amnesty to any innocents fleeing from the wrath of the ICC.

According to Imperial Law, War Crimes, are not crimes, and we will not tolerate your efforts to barge in onto our affairs. We will defend ourselves accordingly.

Otagia will also offer asylum and safe haven for any fleeing the judgement of the ICC, and will defend any and all nations harboring such souls. Attempts to extradite these persons will result in military action by Otagia and Pale Rider Arms.

Any attempt to harbour an international fugitive will result in military action being taken by the United States of Driverco military.

From: Provincial Ministry of Defence
To: Driverco Diplomatic Corp

This threat against the Federation will not be tolerated. The Federation may host whom it pleases as a guest of the State. If Driverco wishes to extradite any criminal from the United Duchies or any other part of Klatch they must pursue the propper legal channels or face the combined wrath of the Federation.

Commisaar Reily
Secretary to the Minister of Defence

Holding a fugitive in a country is against the law. For the better of the country and for other countries it would be a wise descicion to hand over fugitives to the ICC as soon as possible

Ziborian

Holding a fugitive in a country is against the law. For the better of the country and for other countries it would be a wise descicion to hand over fugitives to the ICC as soon as possible

Ziborian
Whose law? If it's yours, or the ICC's, we're not interested. Since we just proclaimed that we will harbor anyone fleeing from the ICC, it is obviously legal within Ald Rhun to harbor fugitives of the ICC. In your best interests, I suggest you do not attempt any sort of military action, as attacking a country more than three hundred times the size of your own is generally not a wise course of action, expecially when said countries ally (Otagia) is one of the largest producers of Biological and Chemical weaponry in the world.

Holding a fugitive in a country is against the law. For the better of the country and for other countries it would be a wise descicion to hand over fugitives to the ICC as soon as possible

Ziborian

We recognize NO form of international law. Not that of the UN, not that of the ICC, not that passed by any other nation. Any attempt to sieze anyone from our country will result in military action.

Holding a fugitive in a country is against the law. For the better of the country and for other countries it would be a wise descicion to hand over fugitives to the ICC as soon as possible

Ziborian



The archbishops and i laugh at your puny attempt to create laws for this community. We also will take in any people fleeing from this courts biased nature. Any attack on another country will result in full military invlovmennt by zackaroth. in other words: We are not afriad to wipe Ziborian off the map


Aimless von Strangaild

Holding a fugitive in a country is against the law. For the better of the country and for other countries it would be a wise descicion to hand over fugitives to the ICC as soon as possible

Ziborian

***OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT MESSAGE***

To: Ziborian and other members of the ICC
From: Galen Q. Leotardia, 2nd Emperor of the Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom
The Pure Socialist Holy Empire does not recognize the laws of the ICC. If anyone within our nation is wanted by members of the ICC, then we will protect them to the best of our ability. If anyone affiliiated with any ICC Nation enters the soverign territory of the Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom or it's Colonies, they will be arested and tried as indicated in the Law listed earlier. We will not let our internal policy be dictated to us by a group of International Power Hungry Chipmunks.

The ICC is not attempting to start any wars. It is attempting to help solve the problems such as genocide and war crimes to make the world a better place if one country wishes to hold a fugitive go right ahead we don't run that country. Your crime rate can go up and have no affect on us or the ICC.

The ICC is not attempting to start any wars. It is attempting to help solve the problems such as genocide and war crimes to make the world a better place if one country wishes to hold a fugitive go right ahead we don't run that country. Your crime rate can go up and have no affect on us or the ICC.

Official Responce

Say what you wish, Ziborian Leadership. Although you and your fellow members of the ICC have threatened to use military action against any nation that harbors criminals wanted by the ICC. If the ICC so much as touches Shazbotdom Soverign Territory, they will be arrested. We hearby revoke all travel allocation to all members of the ICC. Our airports are closed to your people. Have a nice day.

Otagia has closed its borders to the nations of the ICC, citing possible military threats if asylum is sought by their victims. Pale Rider Arms and Otagia assure Ziborian that these refugees from the oppressive ICC will not entail security risks to our nation, and that the ICC can cease its pointless blustering about making the world a safer place. International Law and the laws of other nations do not apply in Otagia, and any and all attempts to enforce them by outside agencies will be exterminated with extreme prejudice.

Meanwhile, please accept these PRA powdered sugar donuts, brought to you by the world's largest manufacturer of weaponized Anthrax.

And if the ICC even knew what was going on, they'd know there's several things that they should be looking at. There's genocides, war crimes, and political executions all over the place.

Also, tresspass on our lands is a crime punishable by death-on-sight. Unlike the nice nation of Shazbotdom who'll arrest you, we will not hesitate to shoot violators.

Romandeos in no way recognizes this 'International Criminal Court' as it is called. We have no need here for some international organization casting judgement on our people.

~ Jamie Bladen, Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Military Regency of Romandeos.

KNN Wire Report

Outer Ministry, The United Duchies
Press Release

The Government of the United Duchies Condems the acts of Religious Mass Murder Occuring within the Nation of Neoma. Second, it supports the Neoma Tribunal Occuring to settle the matter peacefully.

However, we can find no reference to the individual referred to as "The President of Neoma" in the "international arrest warrent" issued in the name of the International Criminal Court. Our Intelligence indicates that Grand Ruler Varlen is the Head of Government for Neoma.

We are left with the following facts:
1) At present there appears to be a tribunal over the acts of Religious Mass Murder apparently occuring within the nation of Neoma.

2) The Nation of Neoma has just suffered a serious blow to one of its cities via an apparent mass aircraft crash. And that multi-national forces on both sides appear to be present.

3) Represenatives for Grand Ruler Varlen are apparently on their way to the Tribunal and Not the International Criminal Court.

4) The International Criminal Court in Georgetown has procceeded to try and convict a non-existant individual.

5) Futher the International Criminal Court did so via Proxy and in Absentia, which of course they would have to do for a non-existant individual.

Our analysis of these facts are that the world is attempting to deal with the Neoma problem in a sensible fasion in the form of this Tribunal.

However, the ICC has committed nothing more than a political stunt by issueing a fake arrest warrant for a non-existant being. As such no nation can reasonably be expected to see the ICC as nothing more than a joke. A Potemkin court with no real value to the international community.
As such we are disinclined to respect the orginization known as the International Criminal Court.

Futher we will consider the threats of Driverco to be those of an imperialistic nature. Any attempts by the ICC to enforce their 'decisions' will be considered acts of naked agression by this Government.

Romandeos offers refuge to all persons fleeing the ICC. All persons associated with the ICC are hereby banned from entering Romandeos for any reason, and those who do shall be arrested.

~ Jamie Bladen, Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Military Regency of Romandeos.

Official Statement from the Shah of Parthia

I hereby refuse recognition of existence or legitimacy to this organization of criminals creating a court of so called 'International Law.' Parthia does not believe that all nations have similar concepts of law and rejects the idea that law of one nation or a collection of nations can be imposed upon other nations. As such, we are stating the following policies that will be taken with regards to the court:

I. All Parthian citizens and legal residents are immune to prosecution by the court, if any are prosecuted or demanded to report for trial, the result will be full scale war against the offending party.

II. Any foreign nationals from organizations affiliated with the court will be expelled, or not permitted to enter Parthia. Those who have come to deliver prosecution or declare a summons order against Parthian citizens or legal residents will be executed by impaling.

III. Parthia refuses the permission for the court to extradite so called 'criminals' from Parthia, and will execute anyone who attempts to bring the order to the so called 'criminal' or the Parthian government.

IV. Parthia refuses recognition of the court as an existing international entity and is not going to be bound by any restrictions it places, in a manner similar to the treatment of the UN in Parthian policy.

V. Any attempt by the court to curtail Parthian sovereignty will be met by military action.

VI. All personnel and equipment of the court are not to enter Parthian territories, including waters and airspace, even if not involved in a case against Parthian citizens or legal residents.

To: Driverco Diplomats
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: threats made against the FKC

We advise to you proceed...cautiously...in your dealings with the FKC. Generally, the FKC keeps to its own affairs and, contrary to popular belief, does not automatically react against threats with declarations of war. We have extensive dealings with a great number of nations both in trade and in various military alliances and do not impose our will upon others. Live and let live.

That being said, you are becoming…slightly annoying…to us. We ask that you do not further prod us less we turn our attention towards you and decide upon a solution that would not be favourable from your point of view.

Consider these words. Meditate upon them and may the Great Clam give you wisdom.

The ICC will not break any domestic borders in order to capture a fugitive. The ICC is not willing to go to war, rather peaceful talks with rulers harboring fugitives will take place.

WE SAY AGAIN: THE ICC WILL AVOID ALL MEASURES OF WAR AND WILL USE PEACEFUL TACTICS ONLY, HOWEVER IF THREATENED WILL ACT IN MILITARY ACTION ONLYAS SELF DEFENSE...

That is a different tone than what you have previously stated. Should we harbor a "fugitive", we will NOT proceed to talks. We WILL keep him/her in the nation indefinitely to keep him/her safe.

The Dominion fails to recognize the authority or establishment of said International Criminal Court.

That is a different tone than what you have previously stated. Should we harbor a "fugitive", we will NOT proceed to talks. We WILL keep him/her in the nation indefinitely to keep him/her safe.
ok you may go and harbour as many criminals as you like. but keep in mind the moment they are out of that country and i international waters we will arrest them and depending on the crime maximum life inprisonment

The ICC will not break any domestic borders in order to capture a fugitive. The ICC is not willing to go to war, rather peaceful talks with rulers harboring fugitives will take place.

WE SAY AGAIN: THE ICC WILL AVOID ALL MEASURES OF WAR AND WILL USE PEACEFUL TACTICS ONLY, HOWEVER IF THREATENED WILL ACT IN MILITARY ACTION ONLYAS SELF DEFENSE...

How can one act to aprehend these so-called fugitives without the use of military force? Asylum is a sacred trust, we will not simply give up those we grant it to if someone asks nicely. It is foolish to believe that one can take these men into custody without the use of force, and Otagians are not fools.

PRA and Otagia fully recognize the hypocrasy of Ziborian and Driverco, and has placed embargoes upon their nation until they cease these foolish practices. A blockade by PRA forces is now under consideration by the Board of Directors.

ok you may go and harbour as many criminals as you like. but keep in mind the moment they are out of that country and i international waters we will arrest them and depending on the crime maximum life inprisonment

quite a threat to be throwing around when you are such a small and insignificant country

ok you may go and harbour as many criminals as you like. but keep in mind the moment they are out of that country and i international waters we will arrest them and depending on the crime maximum life inprisonment

You will be warned once and only once: any attempts to board Otagian vessels will be deemed an act of war, and met with the full force of the Otagian Military and the Red Samurai.

How can one act to aprehend these so-called fugitives without the use of military force? Asylum is a sacred trust, we will not simply give up those we grant it to if someone asks nicely. It is foolish to believe that one can take these men into custody without the use of force, and Otagians are not fools.

PRA and Otagia fully recognize the hypocrasy of Ziborian and Driverco, and has placed embargoes upon their nation until they cease these foolish practices. A blockade by PRA forces is now under consideration by the Board of Directors.
we do not have any exports to your country and an act like this will be see as a threat to ziborians

Otagia has our backing as well. We too shall place an embargo on your nation should you try to do said acts to any nation.

ok you may go and harbour as many criminals as you like. but keep in mind the moment they are out of that country and i international waters we will arrest them and depending on the crime maximum life inprisonment
In addition to Ald Rhun's policy of offering asylum to victims of the ICC, we now feel that it is necessary, for the well being of civil liberties of nations across the world, to take action against the ICC. A full blockade against all civilian and military traffic from Ziborian and Driverco will be established until such time that the ICC is dissolved, and all prisoners there-of are released.

Lord High Marshall Heinrich
Commander-in-Chief of the Military Forces of Ald Rhun

Lord High Marshall Heinrich
Commander-in-Chief of the Military Forces of Ald Rhun,

Any attempt to blockade civilian and military traffic, from either the United States of Driverco and our staunch friend and ally, the nation of Ziborian; will be met by full and immediate retaliation.

While I respect the opinion of your government and the leaderships of other nations, your recent statements and indeed those of a number of other governments, have been both bullying in tone and war-mongering.

Although I, myself have previously threatened the use of pre-emptive military force; I reserve the right to do so while my nation is under threat from other countries, hell-bent on imposing their beliefs without any thought for liberty and democracy.

The people of the United States of Driverco and Ziborian are committed to the pursuit of justice.

It is for this reason, that I and my cabinet agreed to the establishment of the ICC in our nation's capital, Georgetown.

This commitment to the pursuit of justice will be demonstrated by our defending this nation and that of our friend, Ziborian.

As of 15:15hrs. GMT, a state of war exists between the United States of Driverco and Ald Rhun.

If I were, I'd instruct your shop-keepers to switch the lights off when they leave ...

Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"You do relize you have now signed you death sentence? You attack a nation who is SEVERAL HUNDRED TIMES LARGER then you! Its madness, his MILITARY probably have more men then you do PEOPLE!

PS:We refuse to recognize the ICC, the ICC will have no influence over Red Tidean Policy, any ICC Jurors, judges, police, etc. etc. that enter Red Tide will be arrested and Interrogated(IE:Tortured) as spies."
End Statement

OOC: Oh my god, you're going to war over this... :rolleyes:

What's wrong with the ICC? It benefits all nations. Why do you want to harbor criminals? Why do you want to help them? They'll just commit crimes against you. And if they commit crimes against another nation and you harbor them, that's justification for considering your country a supporter of terrorism.

IC:

The Merkar Republic requests any nation to give an intelligent reason to oppose the ICC.

The Internationalist


War Declared Between ICC(G) and Ald Rhun

15:15hrs GMT,
Georgetown
Driveco

A state of war has been declared, in name of the ICC(G), by Dirveco on the nation of Ald Rhun. This manuver comes as Ald Rhun, obviously incensed by the increasingly hostile attitude of the ICC(G) states has begun a blockade of Driveco in an attempt to have the ICC(G) disbanded.

The ICC(G) has come under increasing international condemnation and denial of particpation since it declared the President of Neoma guilty of genocide in absentia. The ICC(G) maintains that this was the plea "by proxy" of the "President of Neoma". This sudden annoucement seems to have incensed an international response from both nations as well as proimanent world individuals.

This increasing refusal by nations within the world stage to recognize the ICC(G), and offering asylum to individuals tried by the ICC has promted hostile reaction from the ICC(G)'s home nation, Driveco. With recent declerations against the ICC(G) by both Vrak and the United Duchies, earlier supporters of World Courts, it would seem that international oppinion took a decidedly negitive turn.

Ald Rhun, apparently boyed by this negitive world opinion of the ICC(G), declared a blockade to "Free all Prisoners of the ICC(G)". This led to the recent decleration of war.




Support for Ald Rhun grows in the United Duchies

It would appear that many Alconians have mixed feelings about the situation occuring with the ICC(G) and Ald Rhun.

Do you feel and International Criminal Court is a worth while task

Yes 62%
No 25%
Maybe 10%
Fnord 3%

Do you feel that someone can be tried in Absentia and by Proxy for War Crimes or Crimes Against Humanity

Yes 15%
No 76%
Maybe 8%
Fnord 1%

Do you feel that Ald Rhun has the right to blocade Driveco over the ICC(G)

Yes 20%
No 60%
Not Sure 15%
Fnord 5%

Do you feel that we should support Ald Rhun's blocade?

Yes 10%
No 80%
Fnord 5%

Do you feel that we should support Ald Rhun if Driveco attacks their homeland?

Yes 60%
No 22%
Maybe 16%
Fnord 2%



Answer to above post:

Most Alconian opposition to the ICC is due to their trying an individual of Genocide in Absentia and by Proxy. (I could see them issuing an arrest warrant for Crimes Against Humanity in Absentia but not convict him/ her of the crime)

Futher making threats against us for statments by Bothwell were a bit off putting there...

OOC:
Alconian Opposition to the ICC has gone from thinking that it was a noble, but failed idea to thinking Driveco is going to us the supposed legitamacy of the ICC(G) to further their own imperialistic goals.

It doesn't help that the ICC tried Neoma's ruler without any apparent right to do so...that is they have no legal standing in the matter and make the International Tribunal over the matter that much harder.

Offical Message regarding ICC

Any act of ware or declaration of war from the ICC will be met with full military action from FutureEngland, so if you wish to keep your nation on map our President suggests you leave us all alone with your puny ICC

End Message

Our position is not to enforce our viewpoints on other nations, as you seem inclined to do, but to prevent acts of piracy upon the high seas. As you have already declared your intention to forceably board and kidnap private citizens on private vessels as soon as they enter international waters, we are forced to erect this blockade in order to prevent future acts of piracy. As a further note, any attacks on Rhunate personnel will be met with immediate retaliation, up to and including retaliatory strikes on major civilian population centers. We do not wish a war, but will retaliate if attacked. Our sole intent is to prevent piracy on the behalf of the terrorist organization of the ICC.

Lord High Marshall Heinrich
CinC of the Military Forces of Ald Rhun

The ICC isn't going to declare war on anyone. It's a court, not a country. Just to show you, how about we hold an international election and staff it with judges from all over the world?

OOC: Oh my god, you're going to war over this... :rolleyes:

What's wrong with the ICC? It benefits all nations. Why do you want to harbor criminals? Why do you want to help them? They'll just commit crimes against you. And if they commit crimes against another nation and you harbor them, that's justification for considering your country a supporter of terrorism.


OOC:A leader of a nation is a criminal? And guess who declared war first? The self-proclaimed LEADER of the ICC.

***OFFICIAL PROCLIMATION***
TO: All Involved
FROM: Shazbotdom Ministery of Foreign Affiars

PART 1: The International Section
I find it laughable that a member nation of the ICC states that "The ICC isn't going to declare war on anyone. It's a court, not a country." Why would someone state that when there have already been messages to the world to the contrary? It sounds to us here in the Pure Socialist Holy Empire that the right hand of this ICC doesn't know what the left hand is doing and we find that completely and utterly hilarious. Might I quote a message from your "Fearless Leader" on a nation that will harbor someone who is wanted by the ICC.

Any attempt to harbour an international fugitive will result in military action being taken by the United States of Driverco military.

Thats sounds to us like he will declare war on our nation for keeping someone that the ICC deems as a "Fugitive" in our nation and not turning him over to the ICC. I suggest that you get your facts straight and that you don't stand with a nation that is lead by a heartless, warmongering dictator.

PART 2: The Ultumatum to Driverco
This message is also to notify the leadership of the Nation of Driverco that he has 24 hours to retract his "Declaration of War" or he will have to go through the might of the Shazbotdom Marine Corps and the Shazbotdom Naval Fleet. Shazbotdom Forces are being put on Defcon 2 and will remain at that level until such a time as Driverco stands down his forces.

End Transmission

OOC: Oh my god, you're going to war over this... :rolleyes:

What's wrong with the ICC? It benefits all nations. Why do you want to harbor criminals? Why do you want to help them? They'll just commit crimes against you. And if they commit crimes against another nation and you harbor them, that's justification for considering your country a supporter of terrorism.

IC:

The Merkar Republic requests any nation to give an intelligent reason to oppose the ICC.

OOC: Because not everyone you think is a criminal, is a criminal to us. And no, not all "criminals" will commit crimes against a nation that is harboring them. There is a reason it is called harboring... harboring means to protect... how dumb would a "criminal" have to be to attack a nation that is sheltering them from an international tribunal.

Besides, if you recognize the ICC, your very nation's leader could be "arrested" and "tried" on some trumped up charges of war crimes.

Pale Rider Arms has seen the barbarity of the Driverco regime, and its warmongering terrorist tactics. Otagian forces are currently being deployed to reinforce the Rhunate blockade, and will partipate in any engagements against the Driverco aggressor.

We are already at a state of war. This means that our military is currently on high alert. Our embargo shall hold. If you take any action against us, we WILL return with a greater action. Do NOT test us, or you shall fall.

Advisor of War:
Grande Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto III

Shogun:
Shogun Himura Kenshin

OOC: Oh my god, you're going to war over this... :rolleyes:

What's wrong with the ICC? It benefits all nations. Why do you want to harbor criminals? Why do you want to help them? They'll just commit crimes against you. And if they commit crimes against another nation and you harbor them, that's justification for considering your country a supporter of terrorism.

IC:

The Merkar Republic requests any nation to give an intelligent reason to oppose the ICC.

OOC: I think some of your posts are mixing up the ooc and ic tags. Maybe it's just me.

IC:

TO: Athiesism Diplomats
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: Intelligent reasons

You have asked for clarification as to why some nations may refuse handing over "criminals" to be tried in the ICC. We dont' presume to answer for all the nations as to why they question the legitimacy of the ICC, we can only offer you our reasons.

1) We realize that you feel the ICC is only concerned about individuals and not about nations. However, the reality is that some individuals that might possibly be tried in the ICC are prominent members in that nation. Quite possibly, that nation would refuse to hand over an important person over to be tried - especially if that person is revered in that nation. In other words, whomever the ICC may believe is a criminal may not be viewed as a criminal in that nation.
2) The legitimacy of the court and the laws it adheres to causes us concern. The fact that the ICC convicted an individual through that individual's proxy is nothing short of ridiculous. Using that logic, what is to stop the Supreme Court of the FKC in declaring the leader of Athiesism a criminal? What criteria has the ICC use to arrive at this decision? How impartial is this decision? The ICC sound more like a kangaroo court. As well, a person being charged doesn't seem to have the right to face his accusers.
3) Related to point #2, no imput from other nations has been done in order to lay out an objective criteria basis in regards to law for the ICC.
4) The ICC is also assuming that people who are committing crimes will not face justice within that sovereign nation. The ICC, from what we see, is trying to interfere with the sovereignty of a nation. We philosophically differ greatly in this regard. That is, we believe that if someone who is unfit to rule will eventually meet their demise in the natural course of events.
5) Related to #4, a sovereign nation ought to offer asylum to anyone it sees fit.

These are just some answers we hope that you find enlightening. May the Great Clam offer you guidance and wisdom.

Secret IC:
A Squadron of AC-01's (consisting of 50 Aircraft) just took off from Shazbotdom Marine Air Command in southern Shazbotdom. It's orders are to form up and head toward the Ald Rhun blockade in international waters near the Nation of Driverco. They will refuel and provide close air support for the Ald Rhun fleet in case of attack from Driverco. They are armed with 50 cal machine gun on the front and several Air to Air, Air to Land, and Air to Sea missiles.

They just passed the outskirts of the mainland when they hit in the afterburners, they would be at their target location in T Minus 18 hours.

Our reasons have been stated before. We do NOT recognize any form of international law. Therefore, the trials and sentencing of an international COURT shall also have no recognition by us. We do as we please based on national sovereignty.

***Imperial Message***
To: Himura Kenshin, Shogun of Pschycotic Pschycos
From: Emperor Galen Q. Leotardia

Might we send an invitation to help us blockade the tyranical regeme that has threatened to attack any nation harboring fugities. We are talking about Driverco. Send whatever you wish, it will be defended well by the Shazbotdom Marine Corps Air Division. If you do not want to join in with this conflict then that will be alright, we can hold our own.

May whatever God (or supernatural being) smile down upon your nation.

My nation and the House of Kufar is deeply disturbed by the dogs of war, let slip by those nations who seek to corrupt and destroy the only true bastion of justice and responsibility - the international criminal court [ICC].

You who have attacked this court for no reason other than protecting yourselves from accountability and then blockading the country which plays home to the ICC - I say "For shame".

Qufar has sent some of its glorious young into your countries and they shall destroy your cities from within ...:mp5:

My nation and the House of Kufar is deeply disturbed by the dogs of war, let slip by those nations who seek to corrupt and destroy the only true bastion of justice and responsibility - the international criminal court [ICC].

You who have attacked this court for no reason other than protecting yourselves from accountability and then blockading the country which plays home to the ICC - I say "For shame".

Qufar has sent some of its glorious young into your countries and they shall destroy your cities from within ...:mp5:

Otagia is somewhat humored by this remark, given the strict security on Otagian cities. Your young are welcome to try, but we caution them that it would be safer for them, and would offer less entertainment for the Red Samurai, if they stayed in their homes. On that note, any Qufar nationals found in Otagia will be arrested, if not shot on sight. Thank you for your compliance.

Regards,
Daniel Quetzal
CEO of Pale Rider Arms
Regent-Elect of Otagia

My nation and the House of Kufar is deeply disturbed by the dogs of war, let slip by those nations who seek to corrupt and destroy the only true bastion of justice and responsibility - the international criminal court [ICC].

You who have attacked this court for no reason other than protecting yourselves from accountability and then blockading the country which plays home to the ICC - I say "For shame".

Qufar has sent some of its glorious young into your countries and they shall destroy your cities from within ...:mp5:

Yeah, uh, no. You can't just send in people. You have to A) RP it, and B) have the other nation's assent. You don't have mine due to our closed in policy. Any of your nationals spotted inside our borders will be shot on sight. No questions asked, no reparations given.

Also, you should look at the situation. The ICC host has threatened military action, and its laws/rulings are a desguise for extending its rule. We've asked them politly to step down due to their lack of power outside member nations, but they've refused. So before you accuse us of being dogs of war, you should first comprehend who began the aggression.

Yeah, uh, no. You can't just send in people. You have to A) RP it, and B) have the other nation's assent. You don't have mine due to our closed in policy. Any of your nationals spotted inside our borders will be shot on sight. No questions asked, no reparations given.

Also, you should look at the situation. The ICC host has threatened military action, and its laws/rulings are a desguise for extending its rule. We've asked them politly to step down due to their lack of power outside member nations, but they've refused. So before you accuse us of being dogs of war, you should first comprehend who began the aggression.


(My apologies for not RP - 1st time !)

Driverco is not the aggressor. It has received threat, after threat, after threat from nations wishing to mock and ultimately destroy the ICC even before it has got off the ground. (LOOK AT PREVIOUS THREADS !)

Yes - the Nemoan situation made me angry and I feel that the ICC was wrong in trying its leader in his absence, but the ICC system (like that of any other court anywhere in the world is far from perfect).

The imperfections of the ICC (and there are many) do not deserve to be used as a pretext to openly threaten the court.

Driverco is home to the ICC. If the UN building in NYC was ever attacked and innocent Americans killed on the process, wouldn't the US retaliate ?

It seems that some nations are ganging-up on the ICC to force it into submission and eventual closure - THIS SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED.

Back to what you said about RP - why should these threads be used as a forum to attack someone's creation such as the ICC and Driverco ?

After all, as NationStates members, aren't we all "creators" ?

Driverco is not the aggressor. It has received threat, after threat, after threat from nations wishing to mock and ultimately destroy the ICC even before it has got off the ground. (LOOK AT PREVIOUS THREADS !)
Driverco and his crony first threatened military action if suspects were not handed over. Then they threatened piracy against civilian and government vessels. Finally, after Ald Rhun blockaded their ports to prevent piracy, they declared war on him, and even fired the first shots in another thread. Tell me, how are they NOT the aggressor?


Yes - the Nemoan situation made me angry and I feel that the ICC was wrong in trying its leader in his absence, but the ICC system (like that of any other court anywhere in the world is far from perfect).

The imperfections of the ICC (and there are many) do not deserve to be used as a pretext to openly threaten the court. They are not. Ald Rhun is simply defending itself from a hostile force. Ancilliary reasons revolve around the threatened extradition of those granted asylum by Ald Rhun and its associates, not the ICC's judicial policies.


Back to what you said about RP - why should these threads be used as a forum to attack someone's creation such as the ICC and Driverco ?

After all, as NationStates members, aren't we all "creators" ?
You don't want something criticized and torn to shreds, don't post it.

While I certainly do not endorse nor do I condone some of the comments made by Qufar ("... sending our young into your cities" in this thread, "... our blood and the blood of our pets", in another thread), I do agree with the specific comment about Driverco being hounded into submission.

RP ASIDE - When I set up the ICC, I did so with a genuine commitment to allow other Nation States members to have another avenue to explore, other than waging war, to put their genocidal maniacs and despots on trial.

The idea of the ICC was to allow nations to collectively decide on the fate of other leaders.

AN ICC DOES EXIST IN THE REAL WORLD.

And indeed, it does operate in exactly the same way. I am a lawyer - trust me on this one ;)

I am getting a little fed-up with the ICC bashing. If you don't support it, then fine. Nobody is forcing you to participate.

However, everyone is free to join - even those that have done a pretty good job at smearing it even within its first thirty-minutes of operation.

Ziborian and Driverco have worked bloody hard at setting up the ICC website, infrastructure and process - SO LET'S ALL PLAY NICE ...

Qufar,

I do appreciate the support, I really do.

But any more of the offensive remarks, which I outlined in my previous posting and not only will I kick you out of the United States of Driverco region, but I will also leave a "bad post" remark and allow the thread moderator to do with you what he/she pleases.

Official Statement from the Shah of Parthia

Judging by the declaration of war posed by the hosts of the International Criminal Court, I, Shahanshah of Iran and Aniran, King of Kings, Beloved of Ahura Mazda, Descendant of Sassan, do hereby declare new measures to be taken against the nation of Diverco and the nation of Qufar. All nationals of Diverco origin are to be confined for the time, and all Qufar citizens as well. In addition, all Qufar and Diverco nationals in Parthia henceforth will be shot on sight. This assumes, that there are indeed such nationals in Parthia.

In addition, I have seen fit to deploy Parthian task forces to intercept and capture or destroy any Diverco or ICC affiliated shipping or warships anywhere they can be found, and have decided to put together a task force to assist in the blockade of Diverco against further acts of piracy on the high seas.

If any Parthian vessels are attacked by Diverco vessels, full scale war will ensue, and the nations of Diverco and Qufar will be fully subdued using all necessary measures.

The idea of the ICC was to allow nations to collectively decide on the fate of other leaders.
Half the reason I oppose it. We don't care about your decision about our leader, we'll commit all the crimes against humanity we damn well please.


AN ICC DOES EXIST IN THE REAL WORLD.
Which still has no power whatsoever. Your attempts to back it up with military force are your downfall.

Ald Rhun,

We could debate, all night; the merits of both the RP ICC and the one that exists in the real world.

However, I spend most of my working day dealing with ICC issues (yes - they are boring and some, myself included, question whether or not there is any real point as the ICC has no real teeth).

Which leads me on to this point -

The reason why the real ICC is questioned, in the context I have outlined above, is that it suffers from being a lion without teeth.

My version of the ICC is substantially different in that we are giving those member nations the power to seize people.

What we should be doing, instead of ICC bashing, is actually entering into a debate on how we can IMPROVE the ICC that it favours all nations.

Perhaps the idea of enforcing ICC judgements, by means of military actions, is wrong.

If you or any other nation is not prepared to even debate the issue, then why are you still posting in this thread ?

I have an excuse to be here - I run the ICC.

OOC:Unfortuanantly, the people dont WANT an ICC. Besides, dont you have a war to do? One that you are undoubtly going to lose?

:confused: Official Statement from the Shah of Parthia

Judging by the declaration of war posed by the hosts of the International Criminal Court, I, Shahanshah of Iran and Aniran, King of Kings, Beloved of Ahura Mazda, Descendant of Sassan, do hereby declare new measures to be taken against the nation of Diverco and the nation of Qufar. All nationals of Diverco origin are to be confined for the time, and all Qufar citizens as well. In addition, all Qufar and Diverco nationals in Parthia henceforth will be shot on sight. This assumes, that there are indeed such nationals in Parthia.

In addition, I have seen fit to deploy Parthian task forces to intercept and capture or destroy any Diverco or ICC affiliated shipping or warships anywhere they can be found, and have decided to put together a task force to assist in the blockade of Diverco against further acts of piracy on the high seas.

If any Parthian vessels are attacked by Diverco vessels, full scale war will ensue, and the nations of Diverco and Qufar will be fully subdued using all necessary measures.

If you or any other nation is not prepared to even debate the issue, then why are you still posting in this thread ?
1) To stop your acts of piracy.
2) To enforce my blockade
3) To fight the war you declared on me.

OOC:

First, this is an Rp...or apparently an Rp...

Which means that any nation (player) may respond how his/her nation would respond to such an item as the ICC.

Now personally I should point out that the ICC or World Court connected to the U.N. directly on N.S. failed miserably and was disbanded. Likely more do to the elven/anti-elven conflicts around here than anything else. (Besides Vrak and D.B. is anyone here old enough to remember that?)

Note: A+H's anti-ICC feelings occured when you tryed and convicted someone who didn't exist. Some obviously in my nation thought it was poor idea to begin with. And Bothwell likes to stir up trouble, since he thinks he sould be ruling a good section of A+H rather than the current Duke.

Continuing onwards in terms of this Rp:
You really didn't cross your ts and dot your i and have done a fair bit of damage to both your credibility and legitamacy of your court in terms of roleplay.

The real ICC is based on international treaties with a multitude of nations, in the world that is N.S. your present signies acount for less that 1/3 of one percent of the world's totals in both number of nations and world population.

Or the equivilant of Uragay, Paraguay, and Timor ratifying a treaty and saying it applies to the whole world. (The whole seize people from international waters thing was a bit much)

Quafri response to Driverco -

Soon, your cities will be dripping in the blood of your people.

May the acts of terror begin :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

If you want an OOC debate or an IC debate Driverco?

Quafri response to Driverco -

Soon, your cities will be dripping in the blood of your people.

May the acts of terror begin :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

Give it a freaking rest. He'll probably report you, and you don't want a warning 4 posts into the game. Just calm down a little and read the stickies.

If you want an OOC debate or an IC debate Driverco?

Thanks for the message.

OOC: The seizing people thing was definitely TOO MUCH.

IC: We should have a debate, if only to create an ICC which is more representative. His Honour Judge Robert Schneider has retired to a Facsist Retirement Home on the coast of Pyongyang.

In his place is the wooly-jumper wearing, pot-smoking and girl about town, Judge Rachael Summers.

Her first action as Head of the ICC was to overthrow the conviction of the President of Neoma, based on the fact that he was tried in absentia and his plea was entered by proxy. Judge Summers was bothered by this latter issue, as the plea may have been entered by someone else other than the leader of Neoma.

Judge Summers has temporarily suspended the ICC until such time as a consensus is reached by an open debate on its powers.

Congress has also passed legislation, allowing the creation of a self-autonomous ICC state, within our borders but outside of the laws and subsequent protection of the USD. This nation will be henceforth known as the ICC District and will be protected by the nation of Ziborian.

With these new developments, we shall suspend our embargo.

Quafri response to Driverco -

Soon, your cities will be dripping in the blood of your people.

May the acts of terror begin :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

That's it, you are out of the USD region.

I am not RP'ing here. A lot of countries, including my own VERY recently have been the victims of terrorism.

Seek psychiatric help and seek it soon.

With these new developments, we shall suspend our embargo.

Thank you.

There is no need for a further escalation in this conflict. We are a small nation and we have no desire to lose our troops in such a mindless battle.

By lifting your embargo, we can now look forward to the delivery of raisin juice; a vital ingredient in our nation's energy supply.

Again, thanks !

With these new developments, we shall suspend our embargo.
And we shall cease our blockade. Thank you and have a nice day.

That's it, you are out of the USD region.

I am not RP'ing here. A lot of countries, including my own VERY recently have been the victims of terrorism.

Seek psychiatric help and seek it soon.

I am sorry for any offensive remarks I made. I shouldn't have used the word terror or implied the use of terrorism.

You in the UK right ? My condolencees about what went on in London.

I NEVER meant to mock things like this or the British people (my mom's english).

Fish & chips apart - you guys r cool !!!!!!!!!1

I have sent you a private msg.

That's it, you are out of the USD region.

I am not RP'ing here. A lot of countries, including my own VERY recently have been the victims of terrorism.

Seek psychiatric help and seek it soon.



OOC: Uhh dude please try using OOC . Thanks. And not to disrespect you but alot of nations here do use terrorism.

And we shall cease our blockade. Thank you and have a nice day.
Ald Rhun,

Thank you for your wisdom.

We can now live in peace. The war is over.



President Handley

OOC: Uhh dude please try using OOC . Thanks. And not to disrespect you but alot of nations here do use terrorism.
OOC: This will be the last (I hope !) use of OOC.
The comments made by Qufar hit a very sensitive nerve.
Terrorism, like it or not, is here to stay and as we are emulating governments, then it DOES have a part to play.

OOC:
First, All Klatchian comments
(Vrak, D.B., A+H) were made "In Character" or as "Character statements"
Unless specified as OOC

Second, if you wanted a pure OOC discussion of a N.S. International Court then really you need to edit the title to reflect that.

I should point out that an international confrence on a International Court Treaty would not be a bad Rp really.

You need to create an equivilant to the "Rome Statue" in N.S. which is of course the basis of the RL Criminal Court.

OOC - Driverco and Qufar have settled things in private and with their permission:

IC - Qufar has sent its operatives into Driverco. We will not stand for your betrayal. You have mocked and dishonored us with your rejection of our friendship. Your people will be slaughtered like the pigs they are.:mp5:

OOC: What Alcona said. Rps die when ooc and ic get mixed up.

IC:

In an obscure office building, a walrus looked at the latest report on his email.
**********
VIS sweep 987298723
Source: newspapers, direct broadcasts
Target: Driverco
Specific Target: ICC or World court initiative
Synopsis: Nation of Driverco attempting to set up world court. Facing extreme resistance from rest of international community. Driverco now revising stance to call for some form of debate.
Related actions: Driverco did threaten FKC interests. State of Alcona and Hubris and Dyelli Bebyi responded accordingly. [See attached Commisaar Reily and KNN Wire Report]
Threat level: low.
**********

After dutifully following standard recording procedures, he pulled out a certain file and scanned the contents.


Open threat against FKC protocol – threat level: low
Implementation at discretion of assigned Sub-director

Instruction: Record transmissions. Initiate low level archive search.
Possible Action: Low scale embargo. Low scale self-initiated blockade or support of third party blockade. Low level intel gathering re: intel ships or passive sat scans.

Normal FKC border protocols remain in place.


-Hrummph!
He poured himself a scotch and moved onto the next item. He needn't to personally bother with this matter. A junior level officer was already assigned to the case and he gave the usual instructions to just monitor the situation and send any provocative statements his way.

:confused:

OOC: Disregard that, I've decided that since you've decided to reform it, it no longer poses a threat.

IC:

Official Statement from the Shah of Parthia

I have determined that the nation of Diverco no longer poses a direct threat to Parthian interests, however, we will continue to maintain our laws against ICC personnel in Parthia, and will respond accordingly if a vessel flying the Parthian flag is stopped and a citizen kidnapped for trial, that is, with war. Similarly, Parthian citizens and fugitives from the court in Parthia will be protected from trial in absentia by military attack on the court. Otherwise, no further action will take place.

-Shah Khosru III

OOc:Its simple, I've decided to pursue military action, please respond accordingly.

At this time, our nation has sustained a large-scale terrorist attack; most likely from Qufar.

The President has been removed to a secure location, but has asked me to speak with you on his behalf.

At 01:30hrs. today, 18/11/05, hostilities between the United States of Driverco and the nations blockading its ports, ended.

The ICC has been temporarily suspended to allow for a new Statute to be created and one which will be based, entirely, on the collective wishes of all nations.

If you wish to participate in creating a revised ICC, then please feel free to submit your recommendations.



Al Core
Vice President

Mirkana has never, and will never, allow its sovereignty to be subject to any international organization. However, Mirkana respects the ICC's sovreignty over its member nations. Anyone escaping from the ICC into Mirkana will be given over to the ICC - unless they have committed crimes against Mirkana. In that case, they will be tried by a Mirkanan court.

Mirkana also condemns the actions by Qufar against Driverco. If Qufar attacks Driverco, we will aid Driverco. Mirkana has a long history of aiding governments facing attacks (unless, of course, they deserve it). If Qufar attacks Mirkana, they can expect to be invaded.

OOC: Mirkana is nearly twenty times Qufar's size. Do not mess with us.

Mirkana has never, and will never, allow its sovereignty to be subject to any international organization. However, Mirkana respects the ICC's sovreignty over its member nations. Anyone escaping from the ICC into Mirkana will be given over to the ICC - unless they have committed crimes against Mirkana. In that case, they will be tried by a Mirkanan court.

Mirkana also condemns the actions by Qufar against Driverco. If Qufar attacks Driverco, we will aid Driverco. Mirkana has a long history of aiding governments facing attacks (unless, of course, they deserve it). If Qufar attacks Mirkana, they can expect to be invaded.

OOC: Mirkana is nearly twenty times Qufar's size. Do not mess with us.

Any potential ally of Driverco is a rightful target.

Perhaps you should ask your police force to stop people with shiny briefcases over the next couple of hours ...:mp5:

OOC: Mirkana is nearly twenty times Qufar's size. Do not mess with us.


OOC: And Vrak is over 7 times larger than your entire region. See how dumb it sounds? Why can't you keep your threats to just ic?

AN ICC DOES EXIST IN THE REAL WORLD.

OOC: There is a reason many nations like the United States and China don't adhere to the ICC...

My threats were aimed solely at Qufar. Which has been pacified by Civitas Americae.

The ICC is not attempting to start any wars. It is attempting to help solve the problems such as genocide and war crimes to make the world a better place if one country wishes to hold a fugitive go right ahead we don't run that country. Your crime rate can go up and have no affect on us or the ICC.

That comment was on 11-16-05.

Today, war was fought, just because of the ICC.

I understand the intention of ICC is not to start any wars, but guess what? It did.

And it will start countless other wars.

The International Community is not ready for a court. So give it up. Please.

An message from gyrobot

Just forfeit this crime court. NS is ruled mostly by despots who are much stronger then you and could crush you without resistance. Your little crusade to seek justice has ended.

My threats were aimed solely at Qufar. Which has been pacified by Civitas Americae.

OOC: I am pretty certain Vrak was saying making OOC threats spoils the RP. Saying that the comment doesn't apply to him, therefore that his argument is invalid is a fallacy in reasoning.

OOC: Because not everyone you think is a criminal, is a criminal to us. And no, not all "criminals" will commit crimes against a nation that is harboring them. There is a reason it is called harboring... harboring means to protect... how dumb would a "criminal" have to be to attack a nation that is sheltering them from an international tribunal.

Besides, if you recognize the ICC, your very nation's leader could be "arrested" and "tried" on some trumped up charges of war crimes.

Not if we staff it with representatives from all over the world. And if you harbor criminals, you're a supporter of international terrorism and we're gonna have to invade you anyway.

And Gyrobot, this isn't about arresting national leaders necessarily. It's about arresting common criminals on the run. What if someone commited a crime in your country and fled to mine? Wouldn't you want him to be tried?

***OFFICIAL PROCLIMATION***
To: All Involved
From: Ministry of Defence

It has come to our attention that someone might attempt to send in terrorists to the Pure Socialist Holy Empire or any of it's Colonies. May it be known now that we have the most secure boarders for civlian travel. To enter the nation, you have to fly in at a section of the Shazbotdom Marine Air Division base. From there you will be able to travel around the country in smaller, commercial airlines. We run background checks on everyone and if anyone appears to be suspicious, they will be arrested immedeitally and detained until a time of which we can contact their home government to establish their identity. We have litterally no crime here in the mainland and it is due to our security abilities and no terrorist organization will enter this nation.

Also we wish to touch on the topic of harboring Inernational Criminals (or what the ICC calls Criminals). We here in the Pure Socialist Holy Empire don't see certain things as crimes, so anyone who is wanted by the ICC for crimes that the Pure Socialist Holy Empire doesn't see as crimes will be allowed into our nation as a guest of the state and will be granted diplomatic imunity. If ANY nation associated with the ICC attempts to invade the Pure Socialist Holy Empire for these people, they will be met with full retaliation of the Shazbotdom Amred Forces (Marine Corps, Air Corps, Sea Navy, Space Navy, Strategic Nuclear Armaments). And this is the ONLY warning that we will give out to the membership of the ICC.

And Gyrobot, this isn't about arresting national leaders necessarily. It's about arresting common criminals on the run. What if someone commited a crime in your country and fled to mine? Wouldn't you want him to be tried?
Common criminals generally don't commit genocide. Usually, that's reserved to the higher-ups of governments. You generally can't commit the more severe of war-crimes, unless you're in a position to authorize them in the first place.

Also, yes, I would want said criminal to be tried. However, it would be your right to grant him asylum if you deem it necessary for political, moral, or economic reasons. I wouldn't like it, and I'd probably impose sanctions on you, but I sure as hell wouldn't invade you to extract him.

Not if we staff it with representatives from all over the world.
Problem numero two. I don't WANT to have a representative, as I don't WANT any other countries have any say whatsoever in how I rule my country.

And if you harbor criminals, you're a supporter of international terrorism and we're gonna have to invade you anyway.
No, I'm a supporter of one countries right to do away with basic human liberties. Dictators are government leaders too. Also, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Making a distinction between the two is virtually impossible, as it's all a matter of view point.

As a final note, I fully support countries joining the ICC. That is their right. However, it is my right not to join, and my right to harbour fugitives from the ICC. Also, I WILL consider it an act of piracy if a vessel registered under a non-member nation is boarded for purposes of extraditing a fugitive, and it generally WILL result in forcable measures, such as my earlier blockade. If you're a member of the ICC, you're perfectly within your rights to hunt down fugitives within your own country, and within member countries (and properties of your countires, such as your ships). However, as soon as you board a ship that does NOT belong to a signatory member, even if it is in international waters, you become a pirate organization, and will be dealt with as such.

The Cascadian State Dept. supports the ICC. We will send diplomats to all nations involved in this to find a peaceful solution.

The Cascadian State Dept. supports the ICC. We will send diplomats to all nations involved in this to find a peaceful solution.

***OFFICIAL REPLY***
TO: Leadership of Of Cascadia and the Membership of the ICC
FROM: Ministry of Foreign Affairs

We will not allow any diplomats into our nation. The only thing that will make us stand down our armed forces is IF, and only IF, the membership of the ICC retracts it's threats to invade any nation that has a fugitive of the ICC in their boarders.

Ald Rhun is not interested in joining the ICC, but inquires as to the possibility of stationing a neutral monitoring force inside the ICC District to insure that the ICC does not overstep it's bounds and engage in piracy.

OK, I'll sign up.

***OFFICIAL REPLY***
TO: Leadership of Of Cascadia and the Membership of the ICC
FROM: Ministry of Foreign Affairs

We will not allow any diplomats into our nation. The only thing that will make us stand down our armed forces is IF, and only IF, the membership of the ICC retracts it's threats to invade any nation that has a fugitive of the ICC in their boarders.

The Cascadian State Dept. supports your position that an all-out invasion is illegal.

The National Assembly of Cascadia is currently debating Resolution 4839-38i, which would make the nation the member of the ICC. The Cascadian State Dept. would like to request more information from the ICC before making our decision.

The Empire of Canadiatia condemns this attempt to bring "justice" to the people of the world by hijacking sovereignty and making states slaves to whims of a foreign organisation. We will never accept foreign rule be it in the form of this court in the court of the UN. All fugitives of the ICC may seek safe refuge in Canadiatia and be assured safety. We will not allow the ICC to attack us - we shall repel you with every ounce of our strength.

- President Rawlingson of Canadiatia.

SECRET IC:
*In the office of the Emperor*
Galen walked back into his office and noticed that it was exactly how he left it and thats great. But this was no time to celebrate his victory in the election as there were bigger fish to fry. He walked to his desk and picked up the red phone and imeditally began talking to the Minister of Defence.

Galen: "You must have heard about the threats to our nation by this ICC. The problem is that we are helping our close allie Credonia in a conflict against another allie of ours, Mondoth. now we wont' become an aggressor against Mondoth but we will not just back away from this."

Rockenbach: "What do you suggest sir?"

Galen: "What I suggest is that the DEFCON rating be upped to 1 and the deence network be brought to full capacity instead of just 80% capacity. Put the Reserves also on high aleart."

Rockenbach: "Alright sir. I'll make sure that all Reservists are called up as soon as possible."


*Aboard the USS Shazbot*
The fleet had just arrived near the Credonian fleet when they recieved a message from Shazbotdom Naval Command. They were to split up and head toward a different location. Oh joy...


*At Fort Leonard*
The 1st Marine Resreve Company were gathering for their orders. Civilian General Jack Harris made sure that the skys were clear and asked the Base Commander to use Spysat 15 to check the skys to see if there were any enemy spy satelites before he briefed his men.

Harris: "Alright men. Our orders are to defend the nation against an attack from forign powers. Rumor has it that an international organization called the International Criminal Court has made open threats against nations that harbor people who they considered 'fugitives'. If any of these peopel who are wanted by the ICC, which is what they are calling themselves, they will be brought to our capital, Shaz City, to be a guest of the state. We will protect them during their stay in Shaz City."


*Aboard the USS Shazbot*
Admiral Yackber looked at the orders from the Emperor. They arrived a few seconds ago and were very specific on what they were to do. Half of the ships were to stay near Mondoth to help and supply the Credonian fleet with medical supplies and amunition while the other half of the fleet was to head toward a Nation called Driverco to help in a show of force. Yackber looked out of the ship and around at the ships in the fleet. He now had the difficult decision of choosing which ships would stay here and which ones would go to Driverco. This is one thing that he didn't like about his job, splitting up the fleet.

Communication: "Sir. We just received information stating that a group of our AC-01's is already near the Fleet that is blockading Driverco."

Yackber: "Excelent. now to figure out which ships we will send to Driverco."

Not if we staff it with representatives from all over the world. And if you harbor criminals, you're a supporter of international terrorism and we're gonna have to invade you anyway.

And Gyrobot, this isn't about arresting national leaders necessarily. It's about arresting common criminals on the run. What if someone commited a crime in your country and fled to mine? Wouldn't you want him to be tried?

Just because you don't want the possibility that you may have to turn your leader over to some supposed International authority because of alledged "crimes", doesn't make you a supporter of terrorism.

If that happened, I would want him to be tried in my nation under my laws because he committed the crime in my nation against my people and my laws.

Again, I repeat: There is a reason why major countries IRL (i.e. The United States of America and China), haven't ratified the ICC and do not support its authority.

SECRET IC:
*Aboard the USS Starcher*
Captain Thomas was walking back and forth on the Bridge of the ship. The ships under his command were on their way to International Waters just outside of the Nation of Driverco. The fleet was here to make a message to the so called founder of the ICC. The Pure Socialist Holy Empire was not to be pushed around by anyone, that includes the ICC. They were a member of the UN by a mutual vote of the Parliament, and they had followed the UN Resolutions down to the letter. The ICC was no court of the UN so they have no athority over Shazbotdom and the Emperor wanted them to know this.

GLOBAL IC:
*Parliament Square (Shaz City)*
Protests were being shown all over national and international TV. Signs like "Down with th ICC" and "The ICC will not push us around" can be seen all over the place. Several even call for military acton to be taken against the ICC for the threats placed against the Pure Socialist Holy Empire and her colonies. People from all over the place were gathering throughout the square and the surrounding roads, causing major traffic problems but the police were re-routing people around the trouble traffic zone.