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Sengoku Jidai: Warring States Japan (Sign Up & Rules)

Oda noh Nobunaga
14-11-2005, 20:07
Welcome, welcome, welcome. I am Oda Nobunaga, and am going to be starting a rp concerning the warring states of Japan as they were between the years 1500-1600. All you have to do is read the following rules carefully, abide by them, and be sure to create a character. And have fun.

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Here is the Link to the RP Thread: Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=454182)
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I. Group Structure and Getting Started

1.1 Group Structure

1.1.1 The ruling authorities (administratively) of SJ are the Tennos, or Emperors. They serve as arbiters in all things. Their decisions are final in all matters.
1.1.2 Tennos may have PCs (Playing Characters – see below) which actively play the game. Their counterpart shall arbiter any conflicts where arbitration is necessary.

1.2 Member Relations

1.2.1 Members of Sengoku Jidai: Warring States Japan are expected to treat each other with courtesy, when Out of Character. Hostile or threatening communications when out of character are grounds for immediate expulsion from the rp.

1.3 In-Game Time

1.3.1 The Sengoku Jidai year consists of 2 IRL (In Real Life) weeks.
1.3.2 Season lengths vary, depending on the Tennos’ decision.

1.4 Travel

1.4.1 PCs must abide by these travel guidelines:
1.4.2 A PC can travel across one large territory, two medium territories, or four small territories in two days, IRL.
1.4.3 A PC can travel across one medium territory, or two small territories, in one day IRL.
1.4.4 A PC can travel across one small territory in 12 hours, IRL.
1.4.5 Troop counts of 500 or less follow the same guidelines for PCs.
1.4.6 Troop counts of 500-1000 take twice as long.
1.4.7 Troop counts over 1000 take three times as long.
1.4.8 Messengers take half as long as a PC to traverse territories.

1.5 Dice

1.5.1 When dice are called for, the Tennos will use Kenware.com’s online virtual dice server, allowing for quick results to be emailed to concerned participants, without fear of tampering from the rolling official.

1.6 Creating a PC

1.6.1 A PC, or Playing Character, is a member’s persona in the game. In order to create one, the applicant must first sign up here in the sign up thread, apply to a Tenno for a position, and post both a character biography and a valid e-mail. Things to include in the biography are:
-name
-age
-sex
-physical description
-married status
-a short biography of your character
1.6.2 The email must be a valid one, such as my own: lakes_7@hotmail.com. Of course, this is mandatory for the use of role play and for talks between a Tenno and a player.
1.6.3 Note that you will be rp'ing a historical person, I will provide below a list of Daimyo (fuedal lords) from which you may choose, you may want to research them and get a feel as to what they are like and then once we start you may do with them as you wish, but it is nice to stay a little historically accurate, i.e. if your daimyo has an ancient hatred for another, that doesn't just disapear because your now acting as him.

II. Government Structure & Positions

2.1 Shogun

2.1.1 The Shogun is the highest power in the land. At the beginning of the game, there is no Shogun. The last of the Ashikaga Shoguns have been killed, and true anarchy has descended upon Japan, in the form of infighting among Daimyos and lesser lords.
2.1.2 To be declared Shogun, one must control 75% of the territories in Japan, or 50% including the Emperor’s territory.

2.2 Daimyo

2.2.1 A Daimyo is the highest rank of provincial leader, who controls at least either one large province, or two medium provinces, or three small provinces.

2.3 Ryoshu

2.3.1 A Ryoshu is the middle rank of provincial leader, who controls at least one medium province or two small provinces.

2.4 Shomyo

2.4.1 A Shomyo is the lowest rank of provincial leader, who controls at least one small province.

2.5 Miscellaneous Positions

2.5.1 Members are not confined to being lords of provinces, whatever their rank. Members can also be Samurai, merchantmen, fishermen, loyal retainers, etc. Whatever existed in the Sengoku period (and falls in line with the storyline of Sengoku Jidai: Warring States Japan) is possible.

III. Provinces

3.1 Large Provinces

3.1.1 Large Provinces have an annual income of 300,000 koku.
3.1.2 These provinces consist of the following:
-Dewa (320,000)
-Mutsu (300,000)
-Shinano (350,000)
-Tosa (325,000)
-Hyuga (375,000)
-Higo (320,000)
-Iyo (315,000)
-Echigo (375,000)
-Kii (325,000)
-Hizen (300,000)

3.2 Medium Provinces

3.2.1 Medium Provinces have an annual income ranging from 100,000 koku to 300,000 koku.
3.2.2 These provinces consist of the following:
-Iwashiro (125,000)
-Iwami (250,000)
-Shimotsuke (275,000)
-Hitachi (125,000)
-Shimosa (250,000)
-Musashi (275,000)
-Kotsuke (130,000)
-Kai (110,000)
-Suruga (250,000)
-Totomi (290,000)
-Mikawa (100,000)
-Mino (110,000)
-Hida (125,000)
-Etchu (250,000)
-Echizen (125,000)
-Omi (100,000)
-Yamashiro (200,000)
-Ise (250,000)
-Yamato (215,000)
-Tanba (275,000)
-Harima (215,000)
-Awa (south) (250,000)
-Bingo (275,000)
-Izumo (280,000)
-Iwami (220,000)
-Aki (120,000)
-Suwo (215,000)
-Nagato (170,000)
-Bungo (220,000)
-Chikuzen (215,000)
-Satsuma (100,000)
-Osumi (120,000)

3.3 Small Provinces

3.3.1 Small Provinces have an annual income ranging from 10,000 koku to 100,000 koku.
3.3.2 These provinces consist of the following:
-Sado (25,000)
-Kazusa (40,000)
-Awa (North) (20,000)
-Sagami (75,000)
-Izu (60,000)
-Owari (90,000)
-Noto (45,000)
-Kaga (55,000)
-Wakasa (20,000)
-Iga (25,000)
-Kawachi (80,000)
-Izumi (85,000)
-Tango (35,000)
-Settsu (75,000)
-Awaji (25,000)
-Tajima (50,000)
-Inaba (45,000)
-Sanuki (65,000)
-Bizen (80,000)
-Mimasaka (70,000)
-Bitchu (70,000)
-Hoki (30,000)
-Buzen (90,000)
-Chikugo (50,000)
-Oki (15,000)
-Tsushima (20,000)

3.4 Miscellaneous

3.4.1 The incomes listed above represent a 30% tax on the territories.
3.4.2 No more than 50% of this tax may be used for military expenditures.
3.4.3Players are responsible for keeping tabs on their money and taxes. If a player is found breaking the 50% bar on military they will be charge by the Tennos and if warranted, banned from playing for an extended period of time. When you post the raising of troops, you will have to list the amount of koku (money) that each cost.
3.4.4When you conquer another province to add to your holdings, its money and income will be added to your initial income.

IV. Military

4.1 Military Expenses and Types (Land)

4.1.1 There are two main types of military: mounted and foot.
4.1.21 Mounted Samurai costs 4 koku to raise, and 4 koku per year to maintain.
4.1.3 1 Mounted Warrior (not a Samurai, lightly armored) costs 3 koku to raise, and 3 koku per year to maintain.
4.1.4 1 Foot Samurai costs 2 koku to raise and 2 koku per year to maintain.
4.1.5 1 Spearman costs 1 koku to raise and 1 koku per year to maintain.
4.1.6 1 archer costs 1 koku to raise and 1 koku per year to maintain.

4.2 Military Expenses and Types (Naval)

4.2.1 There are three classes of naval warship. All have shallow drafts, are propelled by oars, and have above-deck structures for protection from missiles.
4.2.2 Small Scouting Craft: the Kobaya. The Kobaya is powered by 20 oarsmen and can hold 10 samurai. It is lightly defended by a structure made from cloths and hides. 1 Kobaya costs 60 koku to construct, and 30 koku annually to support.
4.2.3 Medium Craft: the Seki-bune. The Seki-bune is powered by 40 oarsmen and can hold 30 samurai. It is defended by a structure made of sturdy bamboo. 1 Seki-bune costs 140 koku to construct, and 70 koku annually to support.
4.2.4 Large Craft: the Oadake-bune. The Oadake-bune is powered by 80 oarsmen and can hold 60 samurai. It carries a tall, multi-storey, wooden structure with holes all around and a gate that is lowered for boarding actions (NOTE: the Oadake-bune is prone to capsize). 1 Oadake-bune costs 280 koku to construct and 140 koku annually to support.

4.3 Military Upkeep

4.3.1 Military maintenance fees are paid each 'year', in-game.

4.4 Ninja Clans Expenses and Types

4.4.1 There are three types of ninja a ninja master/leader can recruit:
4.4.2 1 Acolyte Ninja costs 10 koku to train, and 5 koku to annually support.
4.4.3 1 Ninja costs 15 koku to train, and 10 koku to annually support.
4.4.3 1 Geisha costs 40 koku to train, and 25 koku to annually support.

V. Personal Interaction

5.1 PCs and NPCs

5.1.1 PCs are ‘Playing Characters’ – the characters being actively played by the member. Each member of Sengoku Jidai: Warring States Japan can only have one PC.
5.1.2 NPCs are ‘Non-Playing Characters’ – the characters that are not being actively played. For instance: husbands, wives, daughters, sons, stewards, and even magistrates can be NPCs. Any character not being played by a member is an NPC.

5.2 Alter Egos

5.2.1 Alter egos are separate members that are controlled by the same person IRL: For instance Tokugawa Ieyasu could be an alter ego for Oda noh Nobunaga (me).
5.2.2 Alter egos are PCs.
5.2.3 Each member is allowed 1 alter ego.

5.3 Assassination

5.3.1 In Sengoku Jidai, it is quite possible to kill off one’s political (or other type of) rivals, through assassination. There are two types of assassination – First Person and Third Person.
5.3.2 First Person Assassination is where the member kills the target personally. These attempts are successful 90% of the time – however, there is a very good chance that the member will be caught in the act.
5.3.3 Third Person Assassination is where the member hires professional assassins to do his/her dirty work for them. While there is a chance that the attempt may not succeed, it is usually safer than the First Person option. However, there is still a chance of apprehension.
5.3.4 If First Person Assassination is the method of choice, the member attempting the assassination must email the Tenno with all the details of the attempt: when, where, how – specificity is the key! Of course, as stated before, First Person assassination is nearly always successful. However, given the details, the Tenno will determine if the attempt is indeed successful, and if the act was witnessed. If witnessed, the Tenno will then determine if the witnesses ‘go public’ with their account.
5.3.5 If Third Person Assassination is the method of choice, the member attempting the assassination must, as before, email all the details to the Tenno. In addition to when, where, and how, the member must include how many assassins were hired, for what price, etc. Again, specificity is the key! The Tenno will then determine whether the attempt was successful, if it was witnessed, or if the assassins betray their employer.
5.3.6 The higher ranking the intended target, the less chance of success. The more being paid to your hired assassins, the better your chance of success.

Daimyo Family Names (What to Choose)
Associated with their provinces. On the left is the province name, on the right a list of Daimyo families that ruled that province over the years of the Sengoku Jidai period:


Japanese Daimyo Families

Aki – Mori
Awa – Miyoshi, Satomi
Bingo – Mimura
Bizen – Ukita, Urakami
Bungo – Otomo
Buzen – Kii
Chikuzen – Akizuki
Dewa – Akita*
Echigo – Nagao, Uesugi*
Echizen – Asakura
Etchu – Jinbo
Ezo – Matsumae
Harima – Akamatsu, Bessho
Higo – Aso, Kikuchi, Sagara
Hitachi – Satake
Hizen – Arima, Goto, Matsuura, Omura, Ryuzoji, Shoni
Hyuga – Ito
Inaba – Yamana
Iyo – Kono
Izu – Hojo
Izumo – Amako
Kaga – Togashi
Kai – Takeda*
Kii – Horiuchi
Kwatchi – Hatakeyama
Mikawa – Tokugawa
Mimasaka – Akamatsu
Mino – Saito
Mutsu – Ashina, Date, Kasai, Nanbu, Soma, Tsugaru
Nagato – Ouchi
Noto – Hatakeyama
Omi – Asai, Kyogoku, Rokkaku
Osumi – Kimotsuki
Owari – Oda
Sagami – Hojo
Satsuma – Shimazu
Settsu – Araki, Ikeda, Itami, Miyoshi
Shimosa – Chiba, Oda, Yuki
Shimotsuke – Nasu, Utsunomiya
Shinano – Murakami*
Suo – Ouchi
Suruga – Imagawa
Tamba – Hatano
Tango – Ishiki
Tosa – Aki, Chosokabe`, Ichijo
Tsushima – So
Yamato – Matsukura, Tsutsui
Oki- Tsutsui Yamato*

*-Denotes a family name already taken.


Maps and References
In order to get an accurate feel for the game I have provided links to sites where you can look up samurai culture and other needed things as well as maps.

Map
If you wish to get a general idea of which Clans and Lords Rule which areas, this map is a very good reference. Before assuming that a certain Lord or clan is in power in an area be sure to consult with a Tenno first.
Sengoku Jidai Map (http://www.samurai-archives.com/1525.html)

Map of all the Provinces of Japan (http://www.samurai-archives.com/map.html)
Here you can find where your located and whose near you, and use it to find where you wish to expand.
Provincial Marking Map (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/0002.jpg)

Reference Sites
Here you may research samurai and their way of life, as well as to choose the Lord or daimyo you wish to rp as.

Samurai Archives (http://www.samurai-archives.com/)
Sengoku Daimyo (http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/)
Wikipedia (http://www.wikipedia.org/)
Oda noh Nobunaga
14-11-2005, 20:13
I myself will be rp'ing as the following:

Name: Nagao Tamekage
Age: 39
Sex: Male
Physical description: Average height, black hair and eyes, good muscle tone and build
Married status: Married, has four sons and one daughter
Bio: He gained some renown as a warlord his military victories over Uesugi Sadanori and Uesugi Funayoshi which gave him and his family the power as the daimyos' of the province of Echigo.

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I will also be acting as the first Tenno, as explained in the rules above as to what that position is. I will be giving the the position to other players as the game procedes.
Oda noh Nobunaga
14-11-2005, 20:24
Ninja were one of the most powerful and active forces in feudal Japan. They were so powerful that Oda Nobunaga sent his army the eliminate all ninja in his time.

Onmitsu Oniwabanshu

Personal bodyguards of the Shogun, the Oniwabanshu were ninja in charge of eastern Japan. Probably the most powerful ninja army in Japan.

Yami-no-bu

The Yaminobu were responsible for conveying messages and assassination. They were in charge of western Japan.

Ku-no-ichi

The Kunoichi were female ninja who practiced seduction and assassination.
Most of them were skilled in poison.

Some tips on Ninja History and other Ninja resources: Ninja History (http://www.entertheninja.com/history.shtml )

Added Rule for Assassination
If one wishes to assassinate a player's PC then you must, as stated in the rules, go through the Tenno. You must also provide the intended target and the amount of koku (money) you are spending on the attempt. You may pick assasins from the above groups, and the Tenno will decide how much your willing to pay will do and how many men it will buy for the attempt.
Oda noh Nobunaga
14-11-2005, 20:47
Alliances are of course there to be made by all players, and they may be made in secret or in open. It is of course possible for other players to learn of these alliances, however to be able to requires a careful and detailed rp post. When you conclude an alliance with another nation/PC, please alert one of the tennos about it, so we can keep track of it, you can do this through e-mail. The Tenno will not of course divulge the information nor allow his own PC/Alter Ego to be 'aware' of the alliance.
Oda noh Nobunaga
14-11-2005, 21:17
Bump
Thrashia
14-11-2005, 21:24
TAG, I will post later who I will be. Nicely done by the way *points to the work above* I'll look into those reference sites later.
Oda noh Nobunaga
14-11-2005, 21:40
OOC: Thanks for the show of interest Thrash, anymore takers? Bump!
Tanthan
14-11-2005, 21:45
Name - Tsutsui Yamato
Age - 18
Sex - Male
Description - A young warrior, a powerful master of bushido, level-headed and dedicated to unity of the people, he projects anger towards those who oppress the lower class. His mind is on his work, but it appears he has a soft spot for women, tending to be a little lecherous after too much sake. He currently is the Daimayo of the Yamato Province. He is charismatic and charming, but inexperienced at ruling.

E-mail: omega7282002@yahoo.com
Oda noh Nobunaga
14-11-2005, 21:48
OOC: Great to have you Tanthan, and nice profile, but could you also add an e-mail? It will help with the over-all game play further on. I will also be soon creating the IC thread for us to begin by tommorow morning at the latest. Glad to have you onboard.
The Genius Masterminds
14-11-2005, 21:50
I would like to join this.

I will edit this post to see whom I would like.

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I have concluded that I would like to lead the Onmitsu Oniwabanshu Ninja Group if possible,

Thank you ^_^.
Oda noh Nobunaga
14-11-2005, 21:52
OOC: Great! Nice to have you Masterminds, feel free to search for the daimyo of your choice.
The Genius Masterminds
14-11-2005, 21:55
I'm more interested in a Ninja Group ^_^, but thanks anyway!
Oda noh Nobunaga
14-11-2005, 21:58
OOC: Hmm, interesting. I will do a little research on them, and so should you, and I find that perfectly acceptable. Mind you though, as the leader of a ninja group you will never be able to become Shogun, but you can ahve great political and military impact upon other players. Welcome again. I will come up with some more rules concerning your group.
Oda noh Nobunaga
14-11-2005, 22:05
Bump
The Genius Masterminds
14-11-2005, 22:07
I shall, and thank you.
Soragakure
14-11-2005, 22:10
OOC: as masterminds said earlier, ninja groups are quite interesting... I think i'll do more research first though.
Oda noh Nobunaga
14-11-2005, 22:13
OOC: This quite true. I will allow for the top tw groups I put in the 'Concerning Assassiniation' post, to be rp'ed by players.

However, a ninja group has a much limited amount of imcome and ability to increase in number as they can not recruit openly nor in the same amount of numbers as a daimyo. So, choose carefully.
Warta Endor
14-11-2005, 22:14
ooc. wow, you really put a lot of work in it! I will join, as I'm interested in Japan too (thanks to James Clavell's Shogun :D ) so...

I'll write my stuff later tomorrow, but I'm interested in the Hojo clan, that possible?
Oda noh Nobunaga
14-11-2005, 22:16
OOC: Very possible Warta, and I will mark you down as interested in that clan. And that book is a good source on how to rp and act with samurai. If anyone doesn't know of the book "Shogun" by James Clavell, then I insist you read it or see the mini series they made about it some...30 years ago :P. Welcome Warta Endor!
Warta Endor
14-11-2005, 22:17
Wow, the Sengoku Daimyo site, its awesome!:eek: Gotta catch some sleep now.
Oda noh Nobunaga
14-11-2005, 22:21
OOC: lol, Bump. This is my last bump and post for the night everyone. I will start up the IC thread in the morning and let everyone begin their start off. I will also, as the first few days of rp'ing gets going, be looking to apoint a second Tenno, beside myself, to act as mod and arbiter during the rp.

So welcome to anyone ele who joins! And Pick your daimyo well.

The following have been chosen:

Uesugi-Nagao Clan- Oda noh Nobunaga
Hojo Clan- Warta Endor
Oniwaban Group Ninja Clan- Masterminds
Yamato Clan- Tanthan
The Genius Masterminds
14-11-2005, 22:36
Don't worry, I will manage being a Ninja Clan. Also, you put much hard work in here, and I give you MUCH, MUCH credit/thanks for that!
Kilani
14-11-2005, 22:36
Tag
Rodenka
14-11-2005, 23:12
Name:Murakami Muramoto

Rank: Daimyo of Shinano Province

Age: 24

Physical Description: Average height and build, in good shape as all young samurai must be. He dreses plainly except for special occasions.

Marital Status: Married, 2 sons, 1 daughter

Bio: He inherited control of the large Shinano province from his father, who died 4 years ago of illness. He despises the adminsitrative work his position requires, but does as much as can in order to "strengthen his mind" as he puts it.

Email:milo1047_@_gmail.com (dump the underscores. I want to keep bots away form my email.)

As Daimyo of Shinano, do I serve as a retainer to another, more powerful clan, or do I simply head the Murakami clan? Thanks. Excellent work on your research, btw!
Philanchez
14-11-2005, 23:39
Name:Akita Sushen

Rank: Daimyo of Dewa

Age: 27

Physical Description: Around six feet tall with a slim athletic build. Looks meek but knows how to use his opponents weight and strength against them. Trained in Ninjitsu and assasination.

Marital Status: Married, 3 sons, 2 daughter

Bio: He inherited the province six years ago, from his father who had spent his life juggling agriculture reform and military reform. The province has one of the best trained militarys despite being smaller than some of its counterparts in other large provinces. He takes care of most of the taxes and economic issues for the province himself which ensures that very little money is taken by greedy hands. He has a soft spot for the lower classes who see him as their benevolent ruler. He is also highly skilled in the art of Ninjitsu and rumors have been spread by other clans that he poisoned his father after learning assasination techniques to keep himself from being assasinated. Considered slightly paranoid by some, he keeps a bodyguard with him at all times and does not allow any who seek his audience to come within 150 paces. He is also intrigued by the use of Cavalry in battle and his reign has seen the training of many more Heavy Cavalry.

Email:fpotus112@bellsouth.net

This reminds me of Shogun Total War:D This of course means that it l<icl<$ 73h @$$!!!!
Kilani
15-11-2005, 00:14
OOC: So, are we using purely historical characters or are we allowed to come up with our own? For example, I am planning on playing as the Takeda clan, but will I be forced to use Shingen or his brothers or father? Or can I simply invent a character? And what years does it start in?

This information will effect my sigh-up. For now I'll be Shingen's father.

Name: Takeda Nobutara

Rank: Daimyo of Kai province and Lord of the Takeda Clan

Age: 30

Physical Description: Although he is getting older, he is till in the prime of his life and is fit and combat ready. He is of average height and sports a beard and mustache.

Marital Status: Married, one son Takeda Harunobu

Bio: Lord of the Takeda Clan, he has built it on military strength, along with an excellent beauracracy. He has been a warlord most of his life and plans on expanding the Clan's power to evantually dominate the three islands of Nippon. He is a great believer in cavalry and is building his army around a strong core of infantry and cavalry warriors. He disdains those who use cloak and dagger when they should rid in open combat.

E-Mail: dragoon1940@gmail.com
Philanchez
15-11-2005, 02:37
bump
Rodenka
15-11-2005, 02:53
Philanchez, I don't want o be a wet blanket or anything, but historically, it would be extremely, extremely unlikely that any decent samurai would learn ninjutsu techniques. They were considered beneath the dignity of samurai, and dishonorable at that.
Philanchez
15-11-2005, 03:49
I know that its just that see Im gonna make him paranoid and one of the ways that he keeps himself from becoming suseptible to assasination and "cloak and dagger" is by studying the art form. Also its gonna be a reason for employing them as light quick strike forces in the RP. If you want ill change it to say that he is fond of ninjitsu but it in no way shape or form means he will personally be useing it.
Oda noh Nobunaga
15-11-2005, 08:31
OOC: Welcome Kilani, Philanchez, and Rodenka! Glad to have you on board. And to answer your questions:

Rodenka: No, your not a vassal to any other daimyo, you are the head of the Murakami clan and rule most of Shinano. However Kai, to the south east of you and touching your own province is ruled by the Takeda Clan, who historically had great interest in Shinano.

Philanchez: We will be starting the time period in the year 1520, some 20 years or less before European's arrived with their disgusting and cowardly guns. (:P)

Kilani: I would prefer you to keep your PC/Daimyo as a historically acurate figure, however you can make as many under-characters or made-up vassals as you want. But if it is your preference I am willing to let you invent another son of Takeda Nobutara, or something along those lines.


Note: I have added a section under the VI. Military concerning Ninja clans for everyone to see and for those rp'ing as them to follow these rules.
Oda noh Nobunaga
15-11-2005, 08:54
Ok, this is largely for Mastermind, since he will be rp'ing as the head of a Ninja clan.

The Onmitsu Oniwabanshu is headed by a master ninja. The ninja clan was once the bodyguard of the Shogun, but now that the last of the Ashikaga Shoguns is dead, you are now in a way 'ronin.' You as a ninja clan that once served the Shogun, are based around the area of Kyoto and Nara, the ancient capitol.

You may make contract deals with other daimyos wishing to make assassination attempts on their fellow daimyo's however, you must contact a Tenno when doing so.

You will recieve an anual income of 300 koku each year, not counting any contract money you gain from jobs. The money comes from regular customers who use your men as spies and such.

(Hopefully this is clear enough for you Mastermind, and be aware that you are not able to talk directly with any daimyo, but must go through intermediares, and so mus thtye, if they wish to hire you.)
Oda noh Nobunaga
15-11-2005, 09:16
Bump.

Note: At the moment the 'New Post' tab seems to be missing...from all of the NS forums...meaning I can't start the rp thread at this time. I will get to working on it soon. Thanks for your patience and I can't wait to start.
Oda noh Nobunaga
15-11-2005, 09:48
Map of of Japan Found!
I have found a good map of all the provinces during the time period. We will use it for the rp. Given time, I will be making another with markings of whose is who on the map, and how far your territory extends.

Here is an example of who is where from the current number of players and their clans:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/000.jpg
Oda noh Nobunaga
15-11-2005, 14:08
It should be noted that when you conquer a province, it's annual amount of koku is added to your treasurey. However there are some small rules I am adding so that everyone doesn't just start hopping into provinces left and right and expect to get that extra amount.

1.1 Invading an 'Empty' province

1.1.1When conquering a province that is not ruled by a fellow PC or daimyo, you will alert the Tenno, then procede with your rp take-over. Upon entering with your army, since no other PC is there to counter you (unless for some reason they are) then your army automatically suffers 10% causualties from the battle with the local forces; and a role of four dice via kenwares.com automated dice will decided if you faught and crushed the defenders in a single battle.
1.1.2If 2/4 dice are odd then the defenders get away to fight another battle.
1.1.3If 3/4 dice are even then you successfully cornered and crushed all opposition, however you still loose 10% of your forces for each engagement.

2.1 Taking over the Province

2.1.1 Once you have defeated a defending force as shown above then you will at once have total control over the province. However, to assure no rise of rebellion or insurrection you must keep a presence of at least 1,000 samurai troops in the conquered province.
2.1.2 Once your army garrison has been in place for a single in-game year (2 RL weeks) the province will be yours entirely with no sign of rebellion and the populace will be your loyal citizens.
2.1.3 Construction of a castle or permanant place for a garrison in the province will increase the speed in which your take-over happens, and will cause your populace to become more loyal, faster.

3.1 Revenue From Conquered Province

3.1.1 Once you have conquered the province one will of course expect to recieve the amount of koku that province annually produces. However, you will not be able to add that amount to your treasury for a single in-game year. Meaning you will not reap the true fruits of your efforts for 2 RL weeks.
3.1.2 This does not however mean that you will recieve no money. Depending on the province invaded, a Tenno will award you an amount of plunder gotten from the dead provincial daimyo and from simple raids in the campaign.

4.1 Invading an 'Occupied' Province

4.1.1 Invasions of 'enemy' PC Daimyo's territory will sometimes happen as you strive to become Shogun. They can be done secretly, but very hard to do. Before invading a fellow daimyo's province you must alert the Tenno via e-mail with the description of your plan and amount of troops put to the effort.
4.1.2 Depending on the size of the expidition the Tenno will decide if the other daimyo is able to detect through spies the mobilization of such troops, and given time to make defenses.
4.1.3 Because the battle will take place between two PCs Daimyo, the Tenno will not become involved unless the conflict merits the intervention; i.e. the battle is too 'god-modded' in which case the Tenno will use the interactive dice to decide the battle for those concerned. However if both players are able to battle without the need, then all the more power to them.
4.1.4 Should it merit it, the dice will be used. 1 dice for every 500 troops a PC brings to battle. We'll use the dice rules similair to those in the board game Risk when concerning these battles.
Philanchez
15-11-2005, 14:44
Philanchez: We will be starting the time period in the year 1520, some 20 years or less before European's arrived with their disgusting and cowardly guns. (:P)

When did I say anything about guns? I know when the europeans arrive because ive played this era in Sogun Total War. Also, I dont know any historic Daimyo so is it cool if I make him up or do you want to get me a historic one?
Oda noh Nobunaga
15-11-2005, 17:37
When did I say anything about guns? I know when the europeans arrive because ive played this era in Sogun Total War. Also, I dont know any historic Daimyo so is it cool if I make him up or do you want to get me a historic one?

You didn't, I was just stating a fact. And just stick with the daimyo you chose already, on the map you can see where you are (your in brown) and what province you control. Later after he dies off you can make up his sons and so on and so forth.
Oda noh Nobunaga
15-11-2005, 17:43
Alright, we'll be starting as of right now. I will post a link in here to the rp thread, and I will have this become the OOC thread as well, since we don't want to clutter our rp thread with ooc posts. (Thanks on that too)

And here is my e-mail address as 1st Tenno. Those who i appoint I will send you a g-mail invitation where you can create a new one for the game.

sengokutenno@gmail.com

See you in the game.
Oda noh Nobunaga
15-11-2005, 18:11
Here is the Link to the RP Thread: Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=454182)
Oda noh Nobunaga
15-11-2005, 19:07
Bump
Oda noh Nobunaga
15-11-2005, 21:14
Bump
Soragakure
15-11-2005, 21:55
Ah..is it too late for me to sign up as the Yaminobu ninja clan?
Oda noh Nobunaga
15-11-2005, 21:58
No you can still sign up! You want to be the Yaminobu ninja clan? Thats fine, the same rules that apply to mastermind will also apply to you. You can start the rp with something along the lines of gathering your old ninja clan that had onced served clandestinely for the dead Shogun, and now your on your own. That sort of thing. Welcome.
Soragakure
15-11-2005, 22:07
K thanks!:D But do you happen to have any links or something that can help me get a better background info on them because i'm not having too much look finding information about the Yaminobu.
Oda noh Nobunaga
15-11-2005, 22:18
Well...the ninja were the most secret society ever created, even the Vatican can't match them. I would try ask.com, yahoo.com, google.com, and every other search site possible. If not, then you might try confering with some old text books at a library near you.
Tanthan
16-11-2005, 02:28
Behold the AMAZINGLY POWERFUL SUPER AMAZINGLY GRAND ECCENTRIC....and small clan of the Yamato.
The Genius Masterminds
16-11-2005, 03:55
Ok, this is largely for Mastermind, since he will be rp'ing as the head of a Ninja clan.

The Onmitsu Oniwabanshu is headed by a master ninja. The ninja clan was once the bodyguard of the Shogun, but now that the last of the Ashikaga Shoguns is dead, you are now in a way 'ronin.' You as a ninja clan that once served the Shogun, are based around the area of Kyoto and Nara, the ancient capitol.

You may make contract deals with other daimyos wishing to make assassination attempts on their fellow daimyo's however, you must contact a Tenno when doing so.

You will recieve an anual income of 300 koku each year, not counting any contract money you gain from jobs. The money comes from regular customers who use your men as spies and such.

(Hopefully this is clear enough for you Mastermind, and be aware that you are not able to talk directly with any daimyo, but must go through intermediares, and so mus thtye, if they wish to hire you.)

I understand. I would like to be a Ninja Group because it is more interesting than being a Daimyo, atleast to me it is.

Also, thank you for the information ^_^.
Soragakure
16-11-2005, 05:54
If we're playing the ninja clans, i assume we'd create a pc right?
Oda noh Nobunaga
16-11-2005, 09:51
Yes you would, a 'Master' or Head of the Ninja clan.
Uldarious
16-11-2005, 11:30
Hey all, I was just wondering if I could join, if so I'd like to be the Lord Daimyo of Hyuga.
But do I use the historic daimyo or a made up character from his family?
Oda noh Nobunaga
16-11-2005, 11:39
Hey all, I was just wondering if I could join, if so I'd like to be the Lord Daimyo of Hyuga.
But do I use the historic daimyo or a made up character from his family?

Yes its still open! SO long as there are empty provinces. I would ask that you start out with the historic daimyo, then you can make up for his sons and family. Simply submit a profile as the others have done (like on page 2) and supply an e-mail for in-game use. Welcome to the game.
Uldarious
16-11-2005, 15:16
If Hyuga's not taken I'll take that then, I'm researching my ruling daimyo, the Ito I think, so I'll probably post a description of them tomorrow.
Oda noh Nobunaga
16-11-2005, 15:17
Bump!
Warta Endor
16-11-2005, 16:05
Name: Hojo Sokomu
Age: 34
Physical Description: Somewhat small, but very powerfull build.
Biography: He followed his father at the age of 20. He has some experience as a general, but feels more confident in fighting battles, not planning them. However, he has a sort of aura you expect from leaders. He also loves the Noh plays and stimulates culture in the Hojo domain. He has a few skilled advisors who help him in governing his domain.
Childeren: 2 sons (ages 16 and 13) and 1 daughter (age 11)

ooc. I thought Hojo governed Izu and Sagami? Your map shows only Izu in Hojo hands:)
Oda noh Nobunaga
16-11-2005, 16:10
Aw alright, I'll give you Sagami as well. But just start posting! I dont want this thing to fall on its ass right off the bat if you know what I mean.
Warta Endor
16-11-2005, 16:12
Yeah, I've got the flu :mad: (headache and some throwing up yesterday, just etails ;) )

But since I don't have to go to school, I'll have some time to RP something. I'll start working it out immediately.
Oda noh Nobunaga
16-11-2005, 16:18
Good! Not that its good that your sick, but you know what I mean. And if possible, encourage anyone else you know to come join? :D Thrash posted first with a tag, so he might come and join later. And so far we have:

2 Ninja Clans
6 Daimyo

Back then historically there were over 200! I'd like to have more people join, makes things interesting. :D
Warta Endor
16-11-2005, 16:22
Yups, I've a friend who's a "Casual Japan Freak" (he likes Katanas and stuff) who also playes NS. I've told him about the thread and he was interested, so...
Warta Endor
16-11-2005, 16:23
BTW, my MSN is Michiel_Knoops@hotmail.com
Oda noh Nobunaga
16-11-2005, 16:24
Good, good. See you in the rp thread.
Oda noh Nobunaga
16-11-2005, 16:28
Behold the AMAZINGLY POWERFUL SUPER AMAZINGLY GRAND ECCENTRIC....and small clan of the Yamato.

A single grain of rise may tip the scale. Just conquer some more smaller provinces like your own and grow stronger. If you are small, make alliances.
Thrashia
16-11-2005, 19:17
Name: Oda Nobuhide
Age: 23
Sex: Male
Physical Description: Average height of a man and build, toughened since childhood by his fathers training program.
Biography: Devoted to fully taking over the province of Owari from the 'private civil war' amongst his family. Nobuhide is a promising warlord, yet has to face up againsts Imagawa Yoshimoto and Saito Dosan, who are to the north of Owari in the provinces of Mino and Mikawa.
Oda noh Nobunaga
16-11-2005, 20:05
Great to have ya Thrash!! :D yay! Thats 9 players total so far! We're movin up! see you in the rp thread.
Tanthan
16-11-2005, 21:11
I thought I'd get 31 (cause I am a Yamato), but whatever. Time to begin organization and preparations!
Soragakure
17-11-2005, 00:23
Name: Fubiki Hisoka
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Physical Description: Average height, lean, brown eyed, black hair
Bio: Hisoka became leader of the clan at age 18, thus making him the youngest master ever to lead the Yami no Bu. The chaos and destruction that plagues the land after the fall of shogun deeply troubles him and as a result has instructed many of the clan's genin to travel to other territories and settle there in order to keep an eye on what was going on. Hisoka does not stay in one area for too long usually, rather he prefers to travel in various disguises. As expected, he is well versed in the arts of ninjutsu as well. His skill has earned him the name of Kisei no Kaze Yet despite his wanderings, in his mind, the clan comes first.
Uldarious
17-11-2005, 08:03
Name Ito Sukemitsu
Age 17
Description short, pale, slim and dark haired with brown eyes.
Bio: Not a lot is know about this man, older brother to Yoshosuke, he enjoys poetry and is a fair swordsman. Can be a little indulgent sometimes but is all around a fair ruler with a good grasp of Japanese politics and skill as a commander.




(ooc: email is purpleheroman@hotmail.com, I made up his profile by fractions of information I found so if any of it's wrong please tell me)
Oda noh Nobunaga
17-11-2005, 16:27
Great to have you Uldarious, nice to see someone interested in the Ito clan. :D See you in the game.

Bump! More positions open to anyone who is a dedicated rp'er!
Tanthan
17-11-2005, 21:16
Umm little map error I noticed. I'm Yamato, but am marked in under the wrong place on the map. I should be 31 in placement.
Oda noh Nobunaga
17-11-2005, 21:26
Sry about that Tanthan, if you read the map, the province is called Yamato, not that it belongs to the Yamato Clan. But I will allow you to change to it. And from what I read in the rp, Thrash will need to change his post.
Oda noh Nobunaga
17-11-2005, 21:54
Bump
Oda noh Nobunaga
18-11-2005, 08:27
Bump
Warta Endor
18-11-2005, 09:04
Come on people, it's fantastic! Everybody loves Samurai!
Soragakure
18-11-2005, 10:21
Yeah! We ninjas need more clients so join and hire us! :D
Oda noh Nobunaga
18-11-2005, 14:31
Thanks for the extra bump guys. :D

And he's right, who doesn't like samurai? :p
Dratheria
18-11-2005, 15:51
OOC Can I play two characters? If it's ok I thought I'd RP one of my favorite historical Characters as well I am skilled in Iga Ryu Ninjutsu and Koga Ryu Ninjutsu so he is a great player for me to use. And the other is a little known Samurai in the states but known in Fukushima and Kyoto as the Doragon no Tsurugi. apocalypse2000@hotmail.com

IC
Name: Hattori Hanzo or 'Devil Hanzo'
Age: 16
Sex: Male
Physical description: Short but athletic build with cropped black hair and brown eyes
Married status: Single
Bio: Also known as Masashige. The son of a certain Hattori Yasunaga, Hanzo, who would earn the nickname 'Devil Hanzo', served Tokugawa Ieyasu loyally and usefully. His nickname - Devil Hanzo - was not only to pay homage to his skills but also to distinguish him from another Tokugawa 'ninja', Watanabe Hanzo. Hattori, who fought his first battle at the age of 16, went on to serve at Anegawa (1570) and Mikatagahara (1572), but his most valuable contribution came in 1582, following Oda Nobunaga's death. Hanzo was succeded by his son, Masanari, who would be given the title Iwami-no-Kami and whose men would act as the guards of Edo Castle. Hanzo's reputation as a ninja leader who commanded a 200-man strong unit of Iga men has grown to legendary proportions.

Name: Shigen Kenshirou
Age: 20
Sex: Male
Physical Description: Tall with an athletic build with long black hair and brown eyes
Married Status: Married
Bio: A somewhat renowned Samurai during the Azuchi-Momoyama period while living in Kyoto with his family. He prcticed the Sword style Shigen Ryu and was taught the rare Hitoshirenu Rikijutsu style. After having studied these through his life he began to improve upon the style Hitoshirenu Rikijutsu to create the Kuro Hoshi style. He is by far the most famous warrior of the Shigen family for his skill in combat with a sword as well as unarmed.
Tanthan
19-11-2005, 01:10
bump for people.
Uldarious
19-11-2005, 16:16
I think you can only have one character and in any case two different characters who serve different Daimyo's would be a little bit of a conflict in interests.
How long will it take to raise an army btw? and is the map being updated?
Tanthan
19-11-2005, 16:33
Ya people are claiming massive armies so fast, which is kinda cheap, cause no one can just spawn 70,000+ people out of no where.
Uldarious
19-11-2005, 17:42
I don't know this is an era where the people have been fighting for some time now so the numbers of men are fair enough, the mobilisation speed is something I want to know though because as you said 70 000+ men overnight isn't very likely although it was posted a little while ago on the RP thread that the people who were raising armies now had them so I guess we'll be informed when our troops are trained.
Tanthan
19-11-2005, 20:01
Fair in numbers yes, but speed of amassing them is not.
Tanthan
19-11-2005, 20:58
I don't know this is an era where the people have been fighting for some time now so the numbers of men are fair enough, the mobilisation speed is something I want to know though because as you said 70 000+ men overnight isn't very likely although it was posted a little while ago on the RP thread that the people who were raising armies now had them so I guess we'll be informed when our troops are trained.

Uldarious what province you control? Your not even on the map.
Oda noh Nobunaga
20-11-2005, 00:11
Dratheria: I am afraid that you can only be one PC at a time, so you must choose between them. Depending on who it is, and since you did not choose to play as a daimyo, whomever you serve under decided your income and amount of vassals or samurai you may raise.

About Raising Troops: Every 2-3 RL days I will look at the number of men you players have raised and then decide how many have been raised at that point. This is a temporary rule until I am able to type up rules concerning it.

The Map: I will soon be updating it, I'm not exactly free every day to post, so please have patience with me. :p
Oda noh Nobunaga
20-11-2005, 00:30
I made corrections concerning Warta Endor, and Tanthan's starting positions in this map, and I have added Thrashia and Uldarious to it as well. I will update it as people make conquests and such, but until then, here she is:

Provincial Marking Map (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/0002.jpg)
Oda noh Nobunaga
20-11-2005, 00:36
Just so everyone knows and I get this clear, here is a definition of what a koku is.

Koku - the amount of rice that it takes to feed a single man for a year.

However, in Japan there are several gold and silver mines, and they had a nation wide single money system. I will write it up here:

3 koku is worth 1 Koban: A koban is a gold coin that weighs 18 grams.
1 koban is worth 4 Kuban: A kuban is a silver coin that weighs 8 grams.
1 kuban is woth 10 Koben: A koben is a copper coin that weighs 1/2 grams.

This is so you can make it easier to hire assassins and so your characters don't go running around with bags of rice instead of gold.

Also, a koban is capable of feeding a man for several weeks. So don't underestimate its value.
Uldarious
20-11-2005, 02:39
Ah, I thought that we were just using the koku as a monatary system, alright from now on I'll attempt to use these measures in my RP posts.
Come on people JOIN samurai-war it's good.
Oda noh Nobunaga
20-11-2005, 09:31
Bumpage
Uldarious
20-11-2005, 17:54
BUMP
Come on guys and girls, who wouldn't want to play the part of a samurai warlord slaying bandits and conquering territories whilst flying your clan crest.
Join, it will make you live longer:D
Tanthan
20-11-2005, 19:10
Any proof of that. :P
Bump + Question

How do we construct garrisonable buildings or other structures (for military reasons) and do we have to build places for the Geisha? :)

Oh btw....come to my clan, we will have MANY MANY Geisha! Love you long time! Foriegn diplomats get one Geisha per night!
Oda noh Nobunaga
20-11-2005, 20:48
I will come up with some more rules (yay....) and come up with a system of buildings for defences.

And no geishas. At least not for the purpose of assassination, their such a cheat in the Total War games, but yea, have all the geisha and women you want. Tanthan's picking up the tab.
Tanthan
21-11-2005, 00:11
I bet I'll be the only clan with a mini-army (not literally) of Geisha! Time to post a gathering of forces to attack and seize Edo...
Dratheria
21-11-2005, 04:58
Hey I will play as the Assassin Master Shigen Kenshirou then. Oh and Tanthan seeing as ur the closest Daimyo he will come to visit with you.
Oda noh Nobunaga
21-11-2005, 08:33
Isn't that nice, to get a visit from a master assassin!
Thrashia
21-11-2005, 09:48
Bump...yea...this thing's cool...so join...before a master assassin visits you.
Dratheria
21-11-2005, 15:41
Master Shigen Kenshirou was a real-life historical character and the first of his line in the Shigen family to pass down the art Kuro Hoshi stemming off of Hitoshirenu Rikijutsu. After the end of the Azuchi-Momoya Period he earned the title Assassin Master. In fact I was taught by his descendant, Shigen Ken, in the art of Kuro Hoshi, Hitoshirenu Rikijutsu, Shigen Ryu, and Ninjitsu Koga Ryu.
Soragakure
21-11-2005, 18:11
Ack! :eek: More competition! Oh well, as they say the more (ninjas) the merrier! :D

We can never have enough players so join. :)
Dratheria
21-11-2005, 18:21
I love ninjitsu and doing the training for it but the chance to RP as Shigen Kenshirou the Legend of the Hitoshirenu Temple was way too tempting.
Oda noh Nobunaga
21-11-2005, 19:51
Be Uber careful not to Mess up and spill the Pickle juice.
Oda noh Nobunaga
22-11-2005, 09:24
Since it is important and a show of power and wealth to build castles I have come up with a system of castle building.

Fort
This is the most basic of castles, it consists of a single palisade (wooden) wall with a single gate, two small towers beside the gate, and a simple raised rock constructed keep in the center. The fort can be constructed in one RL day and can be used to help garrison a newly conquered province. These forts can hold 800 men each.
Construction Cost: 500 gold Koban / 1500 koku
Bonuses: When built in a newly conquered province it will speed up the time limit on when you fully take over a defeated province, meaning that you can start gaining the extra income within two or one days early besides waiting the full two RL weeks of an in-game year. It also makes it harder for your province to be conquered, as all of your castles in a province must be taken in order for you to loose it.


Castle
This is the second stage of making a full fledged castle, it still has a palisade wall but has added towers along the walls length for archers to defend from. it also has a moat that is dug out in front of it, and a reinforced gate house. The rock keep is also better and more complex. For a castle to built, if built on the site of a fort, will take one RL day. If constructed from scratch, it will take 3 RL days. A castle can hold 1,600 men.
Construction Cost: 800 gold Koban / 2400 koku
Bonuses: The castle allows for you to govern a province more better and along with the castle comes with 200 samurai who come raised with the castle, without need of using your military budget. As well as being the base of a 4-man provincial spy network.


Fortress
A Fortress is a much stronger defensive structure. The walls of a fortress are made of stone, has a large moat on its outside, and has a second inner wall behind the first main one. The keep also is much more complex with two more added smaller towers, and the donjon itself is perhaps 5 levels high. If built from the basis of a castle the Fortress can be built within 2 RL days, if from scratch it will take 4 RL days. The Fortress can hold 2,500 men.
Construction Cost: 1,200 gold Koban / 3600 koku
Bonuses: The fortress is one of the hardest castles to take in a siege and therefore stronger. When built it is garrisoned automatically by 500 samurai that you do not need to pay for with your military budget, and this creates a 10-man spy network within the province, with this you cannot be subject to most surprise attacks made by enemy daimyo.

Citadel
The largest type of castle able to be built. It has 3 main rock walls, as many as two moats, and a maze of passage ways and gates going through it. The keep of a Citadel is also about 7 levels high and has as many as three other smaller donjon towers around it. If built from the basis of a Fortress it will take 3 RL days, if built from scratch it will take one in-game year i.e. 14 RL days. A citadel can hold up to 6,000 men.
Construction Cost: 3,000 gold Koban / 9000 koku
Bonuses: The citadel once built is like an oyster, the hardest of castles to take; able to stand up to at least a year in a siege. When built it will come automatically with 800 samurai garrison who are not paid for by your military budget. This also increases your provincial spy network to 30 men, and gives you some small bits of spy news from neighboring provinces, a surprise attack on a province that holds a citadel is very hard to pull off, near impossible.
Oda noh Nobunaga
22-11-2005, 10:07
This is to help specify what each unit looks like, and the weapons they use, just so no one gets the wrong idea. :)

Mounted Samurai
Picture (http://horse.shrine.net/samurai/image/nobunaga.jpg)
The mounted samurai is one of the most trained combat individuals in a samurai army, they come from the true samurai families, they are able to fight from horseback with the bow, spear, and sword and are well armored. They are also fully armored and are equip with a large conical helmet.

Mounted Warrior
The mounted warrior is not as well trained as a mounted samurai, but is a capable fighter witht he spear from horseback, and are not as heavily armored as the mounted samurai. They are more suited as light calvary and as scouts.

Foot Samurai
Picture (http://www.ahs.albany.k12.ny.us/ahs/depts/library/lmc_web_page/Japan%20WebPages/Graphics/samurai%20armor.jpg)
A foot samurai is the same as a mounted samurai, except not on horse back. They can fight will all forms of weapons, from sword, naginate, No-dachi, and bow. They are formidible warriors on the battlefield.

Spearmen a.k.a. Ashigaru
Picture (http://www.jackone.com.hk/image/gallery%20photo/ashigaru.jpg)
Picture2 (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/00.jpg)
Ashigaru spearmen (japanese for foot-man) is the basis of all japanese samurai armies. They are men raised from the common pheasents and armed with spears or pole-arms, a single sword, and given light armor. They are not always well trained, but in large numbers they make up for it.

Archers - Bowmen
Picture (http://www.armoury.co.uk/sam1/sambigpics/cl8big.gif)
Bowmen are Ashigaru who have been selected to be trained in the art of archery. They are dedicated retainers of samurai but are not samurai themselves. They are lightly armored, and armed only with their yowi long bows and a short sword. With they can rain death to the enemy, keep them from melee combat, for they will not long survive otherwise.
Thrashia
22-11-2005, 10:10
Sweet, so does this mean that each of us daimyo gets a citadel?

Edit: Like in out own 'home' starting province?
Uldarious
22-11-2005, 13:23
Do fortifications have costs and if so what is it?

What is the battlefield effect of having a mixed army? (such as archers+ ashigaru + samurai as oposed to mass ashigaru )

What bonues does each fortification give you?

Also what type of castle/fortification do we start with as our "home base" or main building such as Agata for me?
Oda noh Nobunaga
22-11-2005, 18:26
Do fortifications have costs and if so what is it?

What is the battlefield effect of having a mixed army? (such as archers+ ashigaru + samurai as oposed to mass ashigaru )

What bonues does each fortification give you?

Also what type of castle/fortification do we start with as our "home base" or main building such as Agata for me?

All very good questions!


1) A mixed army will indeed be more of an advantage than an army made of nothing but ashigaru or samurai. I will make more specific type of + or - to what happens for such things. (i.e. I might have to consult with my friend who works for the Total War company)

2) Each fortification will give you certain bonuses, I will put that in as an edit to the post concerning them, as well as the prices for building each.

3) I will also address this as well, the 'home base' thing in a little bit.
Oda noh Nobunaga
22-11-2005, 19:23
Ok heres what each Daimyo (player) has in his/her home province:

If you reside in a _____.

1)Small Province: Castle
2)Medium Province: Fortress
3)Large Province: Citadel

Get it? Good, and Bump as well.
Uldarious
23-11-2005, 11:41
Well that fills in most of my questions for now, thanks.
Thrashia
23-11-2005, 16:46
Cool, I get a fortress!
Tanthan
23-11-2005, 18:34
Thrashia, I didn't call for aid, you cna bring some men, but I want it a small and peaceful force, not a something that can be confused as a war party.
Thrashia
23-11-2005, 19:24
200 men is not considered a war party, its a show of face. To bring any less on a state visit is considered shameful, believe me. And a messenger is hardly in need of more than 10 men, as that is the limit official curriers from Owari need. So don't feel as if its added protection, it is that, but its more a show of face, to keep you from being disgraced before Lord Oda.
Tanthan
23-11-2005, 19:34
In this time a feudal lord going to another's lair like this is either a show of power or of being a complete idiot. I want to be the first.
Oda noh Nobunaga
23-11-2005, 19:41
Actually Tanthan, he's actualy right. (checks references) :rolleyes: Yup. It would be highly embarrasing for a daimyo to visit another with only a single bodyguard. And yea 200 samurai is the aproximate amount needed, for a state visit, since anything about an alliance is indeed a matter of State.
Tanthan
23-11-2005, 20:14
OK, that is fine. Thanks for the info.
Oda noh Nobunaga
23-11-2005, 20:36
No problem Tanthan, happy to have helped.
Oda noh Nobunaga
23-11-2005, 23:10
Bump
Uldarious
24-11-2005, 07:01
Bump
Uldarious
25-11-2005, 06:57
Still plenty of Daimyo positions available guys, bump.
Thrashia
25-11-2005, 09:22
Bump!
Oda noh Nobunaga
25-11-2005, 11:08
2nd Tenno Elections
Since it is unfair for me to be the only moderator of the rp, I am making elections. All you players are to vote and choose a second Tenno. However there some guidelines a Tenno must follow:

1) Have a strong understanding of samurai military operations and equipment
2) Be fair in all things, even concerning yourself
3) No unfair rulings so as to benefit
4) Act with the 1st Tenno (me) in making important decisions
5) Keep the rp alive and help recruit more players

Those are just some of the things. Also, if you take the post then you will need to keep track of peoples e-mails and I am considering coming up with a news letter for the rp, so that those who are not always able to get online and check the forum can at least get a weekly update on events. If you have not submitted your e-mail to me, you need to do so soon and do it via TG or e-mail me it at: sengokutenno@gmail.com


Rules
I've made quite a few extra rules that are not all togethor on the first page. I will be spending some time very soon on working to get it all centralized so new players are not forced to search all through these 8 pages of 'chit-chat' to find certain added rules. Also, if you have anymore questions concerning them or think of something that might need some restriction or other or maybe a restriction that needs to be lightened, then simply ask.


Happy ThanksGiving
Since its the holidays and I'm feeling merry, I am allowing for each daimyo to have an extra 500 samurai footsoldiers added automatically onto their castle garrisons.
Thrashia
25-11-2005, 12:16
Cool, thanks for the gift thingy. And since we're to have elctions, I guess we need someone to be nominated. Thus I wish to nominate Warta Endor as the 2nd Tenno for the rp.
Uldarious
25-11-2005, 13:07
Thanks that makes my Agata garrison at 1300 samurai.
I think we have to be careful to choose someone who has knowledge of Japanese culture and military during this period of time, I don't know Warta Endor very well but he seems pretty knowledgable and he might bring a few more people in but I think I'll withhold my vote untill all nomanees are in.
Warta Endor
26-11-2005, 16:34
Well, I'm back (I hope) from a pretty heavy flu. I hope to post something soon. I thank the people who have voted for me (chocolate for you!), I'll look around and cast my vote :)
Warta Endor
26-11-2005, 16:53
Ok, I vote for Thrasia. And thanks for the gift!
Uldarious
27-11-2005, 02:05
Are we going to make a seperate thread for this? Maybe with a poll option for all the nomanees?
Thrashia
27-11-2005, 11:57
That might be a good idea Uldarious. Lets wait until Oda gets back, then we'll decide.
Oda noh Nobunaga
27-11-2005, 12:12
Yea, I will create a poll in a seperate thread. So we have two canidates so far...any more before I create it?
Uldarious
27-11-2005, 12:35
Well no one else really comes to mind right now, I wouldn't consider myself skilled/knowledgable enough to nominate myself but I suppose there might be someone else, I'd say you should check out the RP thread and see if anyone strikes you as knowledgeable.
Oda noh Nobunaga
28-11-2005, 10:09
Ok guys, I will be creating the Vote thread today, feel free to vote! AND START POSTING IN THE RP THREAD! :P
Uldarious
28-11-2005, 12:40
Alright but tell me, do I get Bungo added to my revenue now or in two weeks?
Thrashia
28-11-2005, 13:20
In the rules it says two weeks. But I think he also mentioned that you get some amount of koku for conquering (i.e. plunder).
Oda noh Nobunaga
28-11-2005, 19:18
Thrashia is correct, you have to wait until next year. but if you build a castle it speeds the process up.

Here is the voting thread: Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=456431)

Vote now! The poll will close in 10 days.
Uldarious
29-11-2005, 09:44
Well that's good to know, I'm building a castle so I expect to add it to my revenue soemtime late next week.
I'll leave a tidy garrison there and plan out where to send the army next:)
I voted too.
Oda noh Nobunaga
30-11-2005, 13:32
bump
Uldarious
01-12-2005, 14:32
BUMP-age come on guys and girls don't be scared still plenty of room.
Thrashia
01-12-2005, 18:21
Not only that...but no one has freaking posted in three days...I'm still waiting for Tanthan to reply (long history behind that as well...) =_=
Uldarious
02-12-2005, 07:23
Hey I have my exams right now so...yeah it's hard, today's my first spare day for a little while.
Thrashia
02-12-2005, 09:02
Exams I understand....but...some of these guys/or gals should be able to at least vote, or something.
Oda noh Nobunaga
02-12-2005, 10:50
Same here, I have had exams as well. But I agree in part, Thrashia, that they at least should say so here in the ooc thread. Bump, need more people to join, not to late.

And! If any player does not respond to posting within 12 days after his last post, his position will be open for others to take!

This is not meant to be mean, but an incentive.
Uldarious
04-12-2005, 06:46
Maybe TG the people who aren't very active and ask them if they are still in it?
Thrashia
04-12-2005, 19:49
Bump, I IM'd with Oda yesterday. He told me to tell everyone to start replying or else...(dunno if it was a joke) but anyway. Bump.
Vineyard
04-12-2005, 21:03
I wish to join as the Daiymo of Hyuga.

Character: Ishyanou Hirota
Appearence: 6 foot 4, Slight build.
Personality: Ambitious, Cunning, and a bit hot-headed.
Age: 22
Marital status: Just married, no children yet. Married to the daughter of the Daiymo of Osumi. The marriage is a largely political one, as the two clans are now friendly to eachother.

e-mail: rvineyar@nycap.rr.com
Thrashia
04-12-2005, 21:10
I'm on AIM with Oda. He says your confirmed. He can't currently reply (his browser is messing up aparently) and told me to tell you Vineyard. Welcome. Hope your more active than these other guys. *growls in their general direction*
Vineyard
05-12-2005, 13:20
I'm on AIM with Oda. He says your confirmed. He can't currently reply (his browser is messing up aparently) and told me to tell you Vineyard. Welcome. Hope your more active than these other guys. *growls in their general direction*
ooc: LOL! Okie dokie.

Also, I have a question regarding recruitments.

I am generating an annual income of 370,000 a year. So, Can I (hypothetically) train 187500 samurai this year WITHOUT supporting costs?

By the way, a Koku is a bail of Rice....
Vineyard
05-12-2005, 18:22
I wish to join as the Daiymo of Hyuga.

Character: Ishyanou Hirota (ooc:Hiro= Protector ta= rice field.)
Appearence: 6 foot 4, Slight build.
Personality: Ambitious, Cunning, and a bit hot-headed.
Age: 22
Marital status: Just married, no children yet. Married to the daughter of the Daiymo of Osumi. The marriage is a largely political one, as the two clans are now friendly to eachother.

e-mail: rvineyar@nycap.rr.com
ooc: Hey guys, I was glancing at the map, and my provence is shown in someone else's hands, and is being called Ito... What's that all about??
Thrashia
05-12-2005, 18:51
He claimed the province and Oda said he could have it, for his starting province. That and he recently just conquered a province. You might have to talk with Uldarious about it and Oda can sort it out later.
Vineyard
05-12-2005, 23:27
He claimed the province and Oda said he could have it, for his starting province. That and he recently just conquered a province. You might have to talk with Uldarious about it and Oda can sort it out later.
Yea, I would love to talk with ya guys, but you fellas don't have your AIM publicized.
Uldarious
06-12-2005, 02:04
I am the Lord Ito of Hyuga, I claimed it some time ago, maybe almost a month, not only that but I conquered Bungo so you can't have Hyuga, it is mine and has been for some time now.
BTW I just finished my exams so I should be able to post again now.

Sorry to be so rude but read the RP thread, it's all there.
Vineyard
06-12-2005, 02:39
I am the Lord Ito of Hyuga, I claimed it some time ago, maybe almost a month, not only that but I conquered Bungo so you can't have Hyuga, it is mine and has been for some time now.
BTW I just finished my exams so I should be able to post again now.

Sorry to be so rude but read the RP thread, it's all there.
What angers me is that they approved it. My AIM SN is dukeryaniii . Contact me.


EDIT: Can I have Tosa instead, as Uld has the land you allowed me to have? I realize that he had it first, im just stating that I honestly don't have land now due to this accidential mistake.
Thrashia
06-12-2005, 09:22
I'm afraid to say Oda's comp sucks ass, and he told me to tell you that yes you can Vineyard.
Uldarious
07-12-2005, 03:48
Well then, I guess we're all happy.
Have you tried TGing the other RPers about whether they're in it? the newer ones should help mix it up and I guess the ones not posting could be doing exams or something...If you want I could TG them?
Uldarious
07-12-2005, 04:44
I'll TG those not posting and ask if they're still in the RP if they say 'no' I'll inform you and if they say yes I'll also inform you.
GSidea
08-12-2005, 21:31
-name- Honda Tadakatsu
-age- 34
-sex- Male
-physical description- Strong, Able-bodied
-married status- None
-a short biography of your character- Honda Tadakatsu was an invaluable man during the Sengoku Jida era. He was reportedly known to have fought in 80 battles, not once being inflicted with a wound. In this RP though, he is a wondering Ronin, yet he hates the title. He wanders with 200 retainers, a small cavalry force of men, with some of the most pristine weapons around. He is currently near Agata Castle, looking for a lord to serve. He hopes to find it here......

He wields a Spade-spear, a spear with a head shaped like a spade, with two hooked slits on the inside of the middle of each side of the spear. (If confused, I can e-mail a picture, or something.) This is used to dice enemies in half, or to rip out their insides. He also has a Murasame Katana, and a Murasame wakizashi.

EDIT: Email omega-_-merc@hotmail.com
Thrashia
09-12-2005, 15:02
Oda says he accepts you GSidea, except you need to lower your retainer count to about 80-100.
Soragakure
09-12-2005, 18:19
Btw does Oda have AIM? I have some questions that i'd like to ask him. :D
Thrashia
09-12-2005, 18:45
He has msnIM, but his comp is screwed beyond all recognition. He does have the ability to answer e-mails though, I think, so heres his mail address:

sengokutenno@gmail.com
Dratheria
09-12-2005, 19:21
Hey Thrashia my MSN is apocalypse2000@hotmail.com add me