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-A message to nations of the world from President of Russian Federation Vladimir Ivanov-

"My nation for over a hundred years was isolated from the rest of the globe. At one point we had warm relations with Cotland but even those seem to have gone away. Today everything is different, we went through an inner struggle and we came out of it still strong but with a different mind set. Now we want to strengthen our ties with the global community in order to ensure our own prosperity and prosperity of human civilization. Because that is our goal I invite leaders or representatives from all nations that want to achieve somethig similar to come to Voronej and discuss ways in which we can benefit each other. I am hoping the end result to be an alliance that will tighten economic and cultural strings between many nations world wide."

Dear sir(s)/madam(s),

The Kingdom of Norway recognize the new incarnation of Pushka in the form of the Russian Federation, and we wish to establish an embassy in your capital Voronej, and consulates in Moscow and Cotlandstad (RL: Kazan). Naturally, we will allow you to establish an embassy in Oslo, should you choose to do that (if you do, we will fax you the terms of establishment).

We look forward to warm and fruitful relations in the future.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Kingdom of Norway

Kingdom of Norway we accept your embassy exchange proposal on the terms you presented. Please reply back with specific information of the size of your embassy, the number of people you will be transporting to our nation, etc.

Ministerstvo Natsionalnih Del,
Ministry on Foreign Affairs Division,
Russian Federation

Official Communique from the Bjornoyan Federal Government

The Bjornoyan Federal Government recognizes the Government of the Russian Federation as the legitimate ruling body of Pushkan territories. We watch with high hopes and aspirations, that this new government may bring in a new era of peace, prosperity, and growth amongst our nations.
With this in mind, the Bjornoyan Federal Government wishes to establish an embassy consisting of 1 ambassador, 45 aides, and 35 Bjornoyan Federal Guards if permitted. We encourage the Russian Federation to establish an embassy (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=447558) within the Bjornoyan capital of Esthar as well.
In time we would like to discuss the possibilities of your proposed alliance to see what the obligations and benefits of such an alliance might entail.

Official Communique from the United Eastasian Republic

The UER is eager to recognise the Russian Federation, and we are extremely interested by your invitation to Voronej. I will be enroute to Voronej in order to hear more of this proposed agreement, as we would be honoured to count the Russian Federation amongst our allies.

Foreign Minister Bei Ruiyan.

OOC: Aight guys, in addition to embassies please send representatives to Voronej about this alliance.

IC:

We accept the embassy exchange proposed by the Bjornoya's Federal Government and will take the offer of an embassy in Esthar. We also await your representative to arrive to Voronej.

Ministerstvo Natsionalnih Del,
Ministry on Foreign Affairs Division,
Russian Federation

Official Communique from the United Eastasian Republic

The UER is eager to recognise the Russian Federation, and we are extremely interested by your invitation to Voronej. I will be enroute to Voronej in order to hear more of this proposed agreement, as we would be honoured to count the Russian Federation amongst our allies.

Foreign Minister Bei Ruiyan.

We await your arrival with anticipation. We truly believe that our nations can and should be closest of allies.

Ministerstvo Natsionalnih Del,
Ministry on Foreign Affairs Division,
Russian Federation

The Empire wishes to attend this meeting and shall send Representitive Omar Howling to the conference.
Emperor Alec Takenski

The Bjornoyan Federal Government sends its ambassador Alfred Zarubezhnik to personally attend this conference as a representative.

From: Monegasque Foreign Ministry
To: The President of Russian Federation, Vladimir Ivanov

we would like to establish an embassy in your capital, with 40 men of personnel, aswell as 2 Loyalist Guards, mainly for ceremonial duties. our ambassador Marc Reglasse wil also personally attent Alliance meetings.
we hereby also ask you to establish an Embassy in the Beautiful city of Monaco, like we do in Voronej.

~Grand Duke Reginault

The Empire wishes to attend this meeting and shall send Representitive Omar Howling to the conference.
Emperor Alec Takenski

We shall be waiting for Mr. Howling's arrival.

Ministerstvo Natsionalnih Del,
Ministry on Foreign Affairs Division,
Russian Federation

From: Monegasque Foreign Ministry
To: The President of Russian Federation, Vladimir Ivanov

we would like to establish an embassy in your capital, with 40 men of personnel, aswell as 2 Loyalist Guards, mainly for ceremonial duties. our ambassador Marc Reglasse wil also personally attent Alliance meetings.
we hereby also ask you to establish an Embassy in the Beautiful city of Monaco, like we do in Voronej.

~Grand Duke Reginault

We accept the terms of your embassy exchange proposal. Also we are pleased to hear that you chose to attend the meeting.


Ministerstvo Natsionalnih Del,
Ministry on Foreign Affairs Division,
Russian Federation

OOC: I'll wait a couple more days or so before starting the meeting. I want more people to join.

Whilst the Empire recognizes the Russian Federation, we do not wish to join this organization nor do we wish to sever relations.

The Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Empire

OOC: Aight guys, in addition to embassies please send representatives to Voronej about this alliance.

IC:

We accept the embassy exchange proposed by the Bjornoya's Federal Government and will take the offer of an embassy in Esthar. We also await your representative to arrive to Voronej.

Ministerstvo Natsionalnih Del,
Ministry on Foreign Affairs Division,
Russian Federation


Alright Pushka. I will send 1 of my represenatives to this and join.(He will have guards, so don't try anything, well, hostile)

OOC: Aight, i expected Wick and a few others to join as well but they can come in after this starts. Lets just try to skip the swamp of describing the arrivals of each of your representatives and so on and get right to business.


IC:

Voronej was once again covered with snow. It was everythere, on top of the buildings, on cars, on naked trees. In the snow all was one and one was all, all destinctions faded behind the white wall. Vladimir Ivanov, the president of Russian Federation was looking at the dance of the falling white mass through a big window on the 3rd floor of the Kremlin in Voronej. He pressed his right palm and his forehead against the cool glass. The cold found its way through his skull, that helped him to think.

Very politely somebody knocked on the door.

"Come in."

Vladimir said with an official tone. A bodyguard wearing a black suit and a ear piece stepped into the room.

"Gospodin President. Your guests have arrived."

"Let them in."

The bodyguard bowed his head and exited the room. Several minutes later the foreign representantives came in, followed by a group of translators.

"Welcome to my humble office gentlemen. I hope you all head a good trip."

Vladimir sounded as polite as he could.

The representatives settled down behnd a huge oval table in the middle of the room. Vladimir set in the center. Beside each representative was a microphone, the translators seat in the booths behind each representative. The board was set, the game was about to begin. Vladimir rose up from his chair and standing upstraight began his opening speech.

"Gentlemen, today is a grand day for all of us. Today we begin the first step on the road to a better future for all of us. We all have our problems, and we all have our differences. But i believe that this should not be an issue. Cooperation is the force that determines the fate of the world. This being a fact, we must cooperate in order to ensure our succesful and prosperous futures.

I propose an alliance between all nations that are present in here. The terms are quite simple. We remove all the tariffs between our nations that damage the economic prosperity that can be achieved if our nations trade freely with each other. We vow to not attack any member of this alliance but instead to help them in case they are attacked by an aggressor nation. Also if you are to join this alliance it must be your priority, because an alliance filled with nations that keep their priorities elsethere is a weak alliance and this alliance has to be strong.

This are basic rules, only the basics. Once those of you who choose to join sign the agreement we will be able to vote on our policies towards over nations and regions as well as other matters. The voting system is simple, a decision is made by a 2/3rds majority vote and can be proposed by any member of the alliance. The issues voted on may not concern domestic policies of any nation included in the alliance unless every single nation in the alliance agrees that this issue needs to be voted on.

This is all i have to say for now. You can have as much time as you need to think over my offer. Does anybody have any comments right now?"

Reglasse looked up. still clothed in the thick winter coat he had borrowed from the military, he still felt cold. it was cold, and he wasn't used to. After all, he was a Monegasque citizen, not a Russian one. when he was in, he already was embraced by the warmth of a cup of tea, or coffee.
as soon as he got the chance, after the speech of Ivanov, he pressed the button for the microphone and began to speak, polite and slow.

"We agree to this. is their also a way to possibly open borders between bordering nations of the Alliance? I just made a wild suggestion, but I want to know how other will possibly respond to this. anyways, do you have a cup of coffee, tea, or hot chocolate, I'm freezing down here. No alcohol please."

he left the button and sat back, to wait for the translation. he hoped they translated it well, because he hated alcoholic drinks. he already had to pay big time in Monaco, so why should you ever start drinking?

OOC: We can afford heating during winter in our Kremlin....but okay.

Ivanov listened to the translation through his headphones as did everyone else sitting behind the table. He then replied.

"This is the sort of an issue that you can propose for the Alliance to vote on later. Right now we are simply trying to get people to agree to the basics. Other matters can be discussed later. You made a wise choice by joining, you and everyone else who decides to join will receive the official papers at the end of this meeting. Thank you. Any other comments?"

The translator left out the bit about Reglasse being cold but motioned to one of the bodyguards. In a second a hot cup of Voronej tea, a flask of milk, a spoon and a small white ceramic plate with 10 cubes of sugar were placed near Monegasquan representative.

Ambassador Knut Vollebekk walked into the conference room, accompanied by two other diplomats, a representative from the Norwegian military and a respresentative from the Sub-Commite of Culture from the Stortinget, the national assembly, as well as a few aides and two bodyguards armed with pistols carefully stowed away in concealed holsters.

As president Ivanov welcomed them, his voice sounded like he was struggling to be polite, Vollebekk thanked on behalf of the Kingdom of Norway and sat down. The representative from Monaco asked for something warm to drink. Apparently he hadn't dressed for the occation. All the Norwegians knew cold, due to their nation also being a very cold one, and they had therefore dressed themselves in warm coats and hats for the walking outside. Still, inside here, it was warm enough for them to take them off and sit normally in their suits. The Monegasque representative asked about open borders. That could be possible, but not without any form of return favors. The Russian president asked for any other questions, so Vollebekk siezed the chance.

"Mister President, first off, allow me to offer the regards and complements from my government to your government, and thank you for accepting our delegation.

My question is regarding the proposed removal of tariffs. You say that they may damage economic prosperity. However, my nation, and surely at least one of the other nations represented here in this room depend on tariffs in order for our economies to remain compeditive in the international market. If we should for instance allow certain Bjornoyan or Russian products, which are cheaper than their Norwegian counterparts, the Norwegian company which makes said product will lose profits and be forced to lay off workers, who will then have no job or money. Thus, they won't be able to pay taxes or buy things, and then we're losing money instead of making them. How do you propose we avoid this sir?"

He sat back down and waited for a reply from the Russian president, while quickly scribbling a note in English for the president. It was handed to an aide, who handed it to a Russian aide, who would have to translate it and bring it to the President.

I would like to request a personal meeting after this meeting to discuss
the terms of the Norwegian diplomatic representation in the Russian Federation.

- Vollebekk

Ivanov listened to translation shaking his head.

"That is a very good question Mister Vollebekk. It however has a very simple solution if you choose to commit yourself fully to this alliance and its long-term goals. For example Russian Federation has a very well developed steel industry, our pesticides production is not as well as it should be however. Without tarrifs Russian companies will be able to sell steel to Cotland and receive more income, at the same time Cottish pesticide manufacturing companies can gain greater profit from selling their product to my nation. This way more profit will be created in both nations stimulating economic growth. This is an isolated scenario and it does not draw the full picture of the matter because this method of compensation can be applied to many markets. In the end what we will have is an economic cluster, it will eventually come down to members of this alliance only trading with each other. As for the laid off workers they can always find jobs in the companies that are earning greater profits and are expanding because of this system. In the end it is simple numbers that can be calculated to find from what compensations can result the greatest profit. As i said in the beggining this alliance requires total commitment and this system will ensure close economic ties between all nations within the alliance. In the end we will all prosper."


Vladimir's aid passed the note to him. He quickly scanned it and looked at the Cottish representative. He shook his head in aggreement.

"Any other questions?"

Ivanov listened to translation shaking his head.

"That is a very good question Mister Vollebekk. It however has a very simple solution if you choose to commit yourself fully to this alliance and its long-term goals. For example Russian Federation has a very well developed steel industry, our pesticides production is not as well as it should be however. Without tarrifs Russian companies will be able to sell steel to Cotland and receive more income, at the same time Cottish pesticide manufacturing companies can gain greater profit from selling their product to my nation. This way more profit will be created in both nations stimulating economic growth. This is an isolated scenario and it does not draw the full picture of the matter because this method of compensation can be applied to many markets. In the end what we will have is an economic cluster, it will eventually come down to members of this alliance only trading with each other. As for the laid off workers they can always find jobs in the companies that are earning greater profits and are expanding because of this system. In the end it is simple numbers that can be calculated to find from what compensations can result the greatest profit. As i said in the beggining this alliance requires total commitment and this system will ensure close economic ties between all nations within the alliance. In the end we will all prosper."


Vladimir's aid passed the note to him. He quickly scanned it and looked at the Cottish representative. He shook his head in aggreement.

"Any other questions?"

The Spartan represenative from the High Council was used to the cold, as Spartan lands were in the Caucasus. Yet he was still somewhat chilly, and asked for a warm beverage. THen came to his main point.

All of the Spartan lands are in the Caucasus and could provide oil, right? I would gladly join this alliance. But I am in a spot of trouble. Kreynoria has invaded us. We have Hellenistic reinforcements, disguised as our men, but a strike team just killed one of our only 2 generals. We are overflowing with moral only because very few know of general Agamemnon's death. We aren't sure how much longer we can hold out. We need immediate help. The link is under "normal threads" on page one of E2: War on Sparta

OOC: This will go on for a little while longer plus i got the Bolivian thing although its not too troop demanding. I will help you after the end of this conferencess and the official signing of all the alliance documents. Anyways please if you post in this thread indicate if you do so ICly or OOCly and don't blend the two together. Also don't quote so much.

The Bjornoyan Representative and Ambassador to Pushka Alfred Zarubezhnik was very cautious about the matter. He and his nation were not known, nor liked to be open to other nations; not due to nationalistic hatreds or anything, it was just Bjornoyans were very isolated, and gained a certain strength from this. But the world would not allow Bjornoya to stay this way.

"President Ivanov, the Bjornoyan economy is radically different from most other participating nations. As you know, Visara Co. has succesfully dominated the Bjornoyan economy. Visara, along with the Bjornoyan Federal Government have implemented certain trading restrictions which we do not wish to be compromised. Certain materials are deamed illegal within Bjornoya, and although this does restrict trade it more importantly maintains a national morality. Many opiating drugs for instance are not legal in Bjornoya. We do not want such markets to be opened within our borders."

"In the same spirit, Visara Co. inspects any products that would be sold within our borders to see what the possible influences would be on the populace. Foreign made products are welcomed to be sold in Bjornoya, but they will be purchased by Visara Co. first, not the Bjornoyan citizenry. I hope this does not infringe on the terms of this alliance."


OOC: Can I get some info on what sort of governments may be signing this? I know Pushka and Norway, but am yet unfamiliar with others. Any info on my gov is in my sig.

OOC: The United Eastasian Republic is a nominally communist state, but it is much more free and democratic than RL communist nations have been. The UER also sees no problem in trading with other countries, as long as those countries aren't trying to undermine the state.

IC:

Bei Ruiyan listened intently to the other delegates, watching their body language. As Foreign Minister of the UER, Ruiyan had been instructed to find nations which would be willing to deal with the new communist regime. The Russian Federation appeared to be one such nation, so full efforts were being put into courting them. Ruiyan took a sip of water before raising his hand.

"President Ivanov, let me begin by offering my nation's most profound thanks for allowing us to attend; there are several nations in this world who we believe would prefer us to disappear. We also wish to congratulate you on taking office, and we offer our best wishes for your prosperous future.

Although we do have some concerns regarding potentially free borders and trade, we in the UER are ready and willing to discuss them with the rest of the esteemed nations here. We freely admit that we are here looking for friends; since the establishment of our new government we have had very little interaction with the outside world, something that we wish to remedy. The UER has high hopes for these discussions, as we believe that the concentration of international influence in the hands of a few powerful imperialists is a very dangerous situation. This alliance could well provide a way for less militaristic nations to exert their influence and improve themselves through cooperation."

The Bjornoyan Representative and Ambassador to Pushka Alfred Zarubezhnik was very cautious about the matter. He and his nation were not known, nor liked to be open to other nations; not due to nationalistic hatreds or anything, it was just Bjornoyans were very isolated, and gained a certain strength from this. But the world would not allow Bjornoya to stay this way.

"President Ivanov, the Bjornoyan economy is radically different from most other participating nations. As you know, Visara Co. has succesfully dominated the Bjornoyan economy. Visara, along with the Bjornoyan Federal Government have implemented certain trading restrictions which we do not wish to be compromised. Certain materials are deamed illegal within Bjornoya, and although this does restrict trade it more importantly maintains a national morality. Many opiating drugs for instance are not legal in Bjornoya. We do not want such markets to be opened within our borders."

"In the same spirit, Visara Co. inspects any products that would be sold within our borders to see what the possible influences would be on the populace. Foreign made products are welcomed to be sold in Bjornoya, but they will be purchased by Visara Co. first, not the Bjornoyan citizenry. I hope this does not infringe on the terms of this alliance."

OOC: Ah, sorry can't really tell you that, don't know myself exept for Marimia and Norway (who will probably not join).

IC:

"This is not a problem at all Mr. Zarubezhnik. We can still sell our goods to Visara Co., it makes no difference. If you do not wish to have drugs sold then we can simply sell you something else. There are plenty of industries that the supplementation system can be applied to, in every nation all it comes down to is simply knowing what to supplement to gain greatest profit."

IC:

Bei Ruiyan listened intently to the other delegates, watching their body language. As Foreign Minister of the UER, Ruiyan had been instructed to find nations which would be willing to deal with the new communist regime. The Russian Federation appeared to be one such nation, so full efforts were being put into courting them. Ruiyan took a sip of water before raising his hand.

"President Ivanov, let me begin by offering my nation's most profound thanks for allowing us to attend; there are several nations in this world who we believe would prefer us to disappear. We also wish to congratulate you on taking office, and we offer our best wishes for your prosperous future.

Although we do have some concerns regarding potentially free borders and trade, we in the UER are ready and willing to discuss them with the rest of the esteemed nations here. We freely admit that we are here looking for friends; since the establishment of our new government we have had very little interaction with the outside world, something that we wish to remedy. The UER has high hopes for these discussions, as we believe that the concentration of international influence in the hands of a few powerful imperialists is a very dangerous situation. This alliance could well provide a way for less militaristic nations to exert their influence and improve themselves through cooperation."

"Thank you Mr. Ruyian for your complements. As for the free borders that issue has not yet been voted on, so for now you should have no concerns.

Does anybody else have any other questions?"

Ok Pushka.

OOC: I assume he had to be transferred from a car to the Kremlin, isn't he? and without good clothing, he will just catch a cold....

also, Monaco is a Constitutional Monarchy, and shows no hatred against other types of governments, except where abuses are openly common. A bit like normal west-European countries (I.E.: The Netherlands, Belgium, Germany). and has a higher-than-normal prosperity.

OOC: I thank you greatly for telling Kreynoria to move his troops away:D :D :D :D :D . He told me in person that he will probably leave Sparta Dominion. But, half the time he says something in RL, he does the opposite in NS.:confused:

OOC: I guess since nobody else is responding the meeting is over. Others can join later if they want.

IC:

"I see there are no further questions. Very well then, in a second you will all receive the official official alliance document after that it is your choice if you want to sign it or not."

A group of servants came into the room carrying the official papers in neatly sealed folders. The papers themselves read the following.

OFFICIAL DECLARATION OF MEMBERSHIP IN THE VORONEJ COOPERATION ORGANIZATION

I _________ (input your name here), representative of ________ (input your nation's name here) deliver the will of my nation to join Voronej Cooperation Organization. By signing this paper i obligate myself and my nation to follow the alliance rules and to hold this alliance in priority over any other.

___________(Sign here)

Vollebekk read the document closely before he spoke up.

"Sir, my appologies, but the demand that this alliance is to have priority over any other is simply put an unreasonable demand. Also, I fail to see any specific rules which the signatories are obligated to follow. Therefore I must regretfully announce the Norwegian intention not to be a signatory to this alliance."

Vollebekk then sat back down and waited to hear what the president had to say.

We do not feel that it is unreasonable to demand the priority of this alliance's interests over the others a member nation might be involved in. If this alliance is to be strong it has to be unified and its members have to be loyal to one another. If a nation's priorities are somethere else, then that nation is weakening this alliance, as such it should not be a member of it. The demand for keeping priority is both reasonable and logical. Your nation's priorities are with The October Alliance, i respect that and i understand your decision for not signing the document. As for the rules those were stated earlier, i am sorry, you have arrived late for the meeting and didn't hear me say them. They are simple: do not attack any other member of this alliance, protect other members of this alliance incase of an invasion by an aggressor nation and increase economic ties with members of this alliance. Is there anything else you would like me to answer?

Bei Ruiyan raised an eyebrow at the Norwegian objection and allowed Ivanov to finish speaking; he then signed the papers in front of him and stood.

"Acting with the full authority of the Politburo and Premier Kristan Zhao, I am proud to commit the United Eastasian Republic to this alliance. It marks an important step in international relations, and we promise to meet our obligations as stated earlier. Mr. President, may this be the beginning of a prosperous future for all those who are forward-thinking enough to join the Voronej Cooperation Organization."

Ivanov offered a hand shake to a Marimian representative.

"Thank you for your words Mr. Ruiyan prosperity of the future of our nations is now assured."

Vladimir spoke in heavily accented english but sharply enough so that every word could be understood.

After putting his cell phone down, Marc Reglasse used the microphone.

"We fully accept these terms, and with the word of the Grand Duke of Monaco, I hereby sign these papers for the Monegasque government and The Monegasque citizens. They have hereby fully accepted these terms with a 87.2% majority."

"Thank you very much for your wise decision"

Vladimir offered a hand shake.

- Encryption Maximum -
Message To: President Ivanov
Message From: Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler
Subject: Voronej Cooperation Organization

"While the Fourth Reich has absolutely no quarrels with the Russian Federation, we will continue to maintain our current stance of friendly neutrality, but we would like some reassurance that the Russian Federation holds no ill-will towards the Reich, as we border your great lands from several territories; some in Europe and some in Asia.

As I am sure you know, Mr. President, we are currently in the process of construction a gigantic train shipping line which will stretch from Eastern Kazakhstan to Central Ukraine.

Perhaps, President Ivanov, it would serve both the Reich's and the Russian Federation's best interests if you assisted in this great project, and then trade routes were established?"

OOC: The president is kind of busy with the meeting going on right now and all, but okay.

IC:

- Encryption Maximum -
Message To: Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler
Message From: President Ivanov
Subject: Reply

If you want reassurance then purhapse we can sign a non-aggression pact, of course we can't guarantee non-aggression incase you attack one of the members of this alliance. Even so, a non-aggression pact would be a step towards better diplomatic relations between our nations. As for your porposal about the train line, i will personally do what is in my power to convince the Ministry of Rail-Road Construction and Ministry of Commerce to approove Russian particapation in this project. It is most likely that they will agree with me.

OOC: Why would you make a train line to ship oil? Why not make a pipe?

Since now we have 3 members all the following signatures must be voted on and approved by a majority vote.

Ambassador Zarubezhnik was nervous. He was familiar with the new Russian Federation, and was satisfied with the way their government functioned. Visara Co. CEO Wilhelm Kaufmann would not feel very comfortable making an alliance with the socialist state of United Eastasian Republic, but it was not up to him to decide the matter. The Patriarch would be happy to ally his nation with this government if they showed a true benevolency to their populace. The Grand Duchy of Monaco was an honorable nation as well, and the Patriarch viewed their government approvingly. He spoke to President Ivanov.

"Sir, the Patriarch would be willing to sign this treaty with these nations as allies. We would like to ask that any new members to this alliance after our signature be reviewed by the all existing members of the alliance before being allowed to join. We are making compromises here, not just economically but morally. Our Patriarch is very hesitant to sign an alliance if it would make Bjornoya an ally to any barbaric, uncivilized nation; nations that have no regard for human life or dignity, nations that do not allow for individuals, for children to grow within their society, nations that still practice slavery! We are happy with the nations who have signed now, but would like it to be known we sign this document with the existing governments that have signed. Should the alliance incorporate a nation that does not meet the approval of our Patriarch, please understand we will back out of this alliance. We would like the assurance that we may back out under such circumstances."

"Also, I hope it is recognized that we are signing this contract with a government, not a nation. Should the government of a nation be overthrown and replaced by some psychotic dictator, we will not hold that government as an ally."

Alfred waited hopefully for a positive response.

As representative of one of the nations already a member of the alliance i approve your application. Marimia? Luxembourg? What is your decision?

As representative of one of the nations already a member of the alliance i approve your application. Marimia? Luxembourg? What is your decision?

Bei Ruiyan nodded his agreement. "I also endorse the application by Bjornoya. They have proven themselves to be excellent candidates."

Good, then by the alliance majority vote Bjornoya officially becomes a member.

I King Achilles, representative of Sparta Dominion deliver the will of my nation to join Voronej Cooperation Organization. By signing this paper i obligate myself and my nation to follow the alliance rules and to hold this alliance in priority over any other.

The Dual Monarchy of Sparta Dominion.

OOC: Sparta did you read my post? If your nation joins Bjornoya will not join. Bjornoya will not ally itself with a nation that uses dirty bombs, or practices slavery within its borders.

I King Achilles, representative of Sparta Dominion deliver the will of my nation to join Voronej Cooperation Organization. By signing this paper i obligate myself and my nation to follow the alliance rules and to hold this alliance in priority over any other.

The Dual Monarchy of Sparta Dominion.

OOC: Just a minute....

You now have to have majority consent from those who have already signed up in order to join.

IC:

Bei Ruiyan cleared his throat.

"I am afraid that I must vote against the inclusion of Sparta in this alliance. There are too many unanswered questions regarding their current policies; we have heard of slavery and the use of radioactive weaponry. The United Eastasian Republic will not ally itself with a nation which holds little regard for its citizens and thinks nothing of using such deadly weaponry."

OOC: Shouldn't know. I therefore abstain from voting this time.

IC:
Reglasse looked intrigued at the Spartan, seated in the same room as he was. he cleared his throat and got to work.
"I have to announce that my government has decided to abstain from voting, because our government can't make up of which clay yours is made of. altough we have just witnessed the Marimaian and Bjornoyan Governments voting against, we will take an absolute neutral stance on this. altough the same governments have declared that your government has been using dirty bombs and slavery against the people, we can't make a clear view of what is happening. we hope that this represents our good will, and not more than that."

OOC: Sparta did you read my post? If your nation joins Bjornoya will not join. Bjornoya will not ally itself with a nation that uses dirty bombs, or practices slavery within its borders.

The dirty bombs were necisary. His troops have better training and equipment than mine, and I had suffered three times the casualties Kreynoria did.

I am afraid that we must also vote against Sparta as being a member of this alliance. We share similar concerns with UER. Since Luxembourg refused to vote by a 2/3 majority vote Sparta Dominion is officially rejected from participation in the Voronej Cooperation Organization. I believe this meeting can be concluded since all people present here already either joined or didn't join. We need to schedule another meeting that will discuss the policies of this alliance.


OOC: To all members Lay will set up a sub-forum for us on his forums, i'll TG you the passwords and links once that is done, we can do all further alliance meetings on Lay's forums.

Yeah next time you are online I will set it up for you and I have placed this in the alliances section of the RPs.

IC: Ok then said Achilles dully, as he got up and left the room. This had been more pointless than he had thought it would be. Hopefully, there would be enough that Sparta could get into trade routes of some sort. Now all he had done was wasted money to buy the jet fuel to fly here and back.

Greetings from the Interim United Republics of Eastern Siberia

Ever since the disastrous war between ourselves and Squornshelous, and ever before then, relations were weak with the wider world. The new democratic government of the URES sees that the key to a peaceful world is through diplomatic relations and understanding. It has been seen fit, therefore, to participate in these discussions and create a stronger alliance with our largest neighbour to the west.

Therefore, the Cabinet has decided to join the new Voronej Cooperation Organisation and offer an embassy trade. Hopefully this small step will create a return to normality to the Republics that people has not seen for some time.

Signed in great respect,
the Cabinet of the Interim United Republics of Eastern Siberia

By a 3 out of 3 vote you are officially a member of the VCO. Congratulations, we await your representative at the first annual Council Meeting scheduled in Voronej.

I was just wondering. Is their a way I can later join the VCO? Just wondering.

I was just wondering. Is their a way I can later join the VCO? Just wondering.

OOC: After a revolution and re-enstatement of some basic human rights, Bjornoya *might* be willing to vote you in. And cutting the ooc chit-chat in the military campaigns (not blaming anyone) would prbly help.

Thanks for the second chance.

:D :D :D :D :D

Uh, he didn't say an automatic yes. But once I'm through, Sparta will have a free democratic government heavily concerned with civil liberties. The principal voters will be former helots, and the oppressive upper class of "equals" will be put on trial for crimes against humanity before a court of ex-helots.

Kreynoria, I'd rather be blown away than have you modify my government to have a bunch of psycotic, mental-problemed, uneducated, lunatics. And it's kind of unfair that the only people you ask about our new "constitution" are people you know will vote yes. And the Equals and Perioikoi are NOT criminals. What they do to the helots is perfectly legal. By the time it is outlawed, they won't be doing it any more, now will they. And the trials with people you that are known for their hatred to us is not exactly fair. We have 2 kings, a council higher than even them, below the kings Equals, Perioikoi, and HELOTS get to vote for council members.

AND A DICTATOR IS INCHARGE OF YOUR COUNTRY, KREYNORIA!

When my fact book is complete, it will explain our "barbaric" system.

And to keep your barbaric system from happening, we secretly disguise helots as Equals and send them off to fight. You won't even know you're killing the people you want to help. And don't Godmod after this that your "spies" find out we send them in.

OOC: Guys please don't transfer your OOC Chit-Chat to this thread, go discuss this back in the invasion of sparta or better yet via and instant messenger or telegrams. Anyways SD i don't have a problem with you joining, you know what problem Bjornya has. I do not know about Marimia and Andhervia (sorry man can't spell your name right) but i will ask them, for now just work on negotiating with Bjornoya.

OK then. We don't need to screw up the alliance thread. (just spell my name how you think, i don't care if you get it wrong)

I might just want to join after my civil war is through.

Contact:
To:The Russian Federation
From:The Neuvo Rican Empire

The Emperor has expressed interest in joining this alliance. If it is possible, we would like to put in an application. Although we may lack in land area at the current moment in time, we would like to assure you that as the Neuvo Rican empire grows back to it's former glory, our military will become increasingly stronger, to the point where, (given recent events in North Russia) you might find our help of great use. We are interested to hear your reply,


Emperor Ryuzen, Leader of The Neuvo Rican Empire

From:The Russian Federation
To:The Neuvo Rican Empire

We will put a vote up for your application. We feel that your participation can really make the alliance better, we will vote for your participation and try to convince other members to do the same, we will report the results as soon as possible.

OOC: Aren't you sending an observer to VCO Congress?

ooc: Yeah


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To: The Russian Federation
From: The Neuvo Rican Empire

We thank you for co-operation in this matter, and we hope that we will be able to join this alliance in the future.