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'Neptune'-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught Flight II

The Silver Sky
11-11-2005, 05:26
'Neptune'-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught Flight II

(OOC: No picture as of yet, anyone is welcome to make one)

History of the Neptune-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught:
The inspiration for the Neptune-Class Super Dreadnaught began with the creation of both Credonia’s Credonia Class Super Dreadnought and Space Union’s Courageous-Class Super Dreadnaught and the possibility of them being exported to potentially hostile nations and the host of other SD’s built by PIW and exported to other nations. Up until then The Silver Sky Republican Navy had purchased Super Dreadnaughts from IPS or PIW, but these vessels were either lacking in power or everyone other nation and their grandmother had one. After months of deliberation the decision was made that The Silver Sky Republican Navy would design and produce their own Super Dreadnaught, and with the help of PIW we have produced what is before you today.

History of the Neptune-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught Flight II:
The 'Neptune'-Class has long been the staple of the Silver Sky Republican Navy's might, and has even served in several other nations navies, the "Neptune" Neptune-Class SDN has even served with distinction in multiple conflicts at the forefront of the 1st Naval Armada commanded by Naval Admiral Michael Sutherland.

But even with the Neptune's spotless record it was decided improvements could be made to ease logistical strains on the fleets, thus we present you with the Neptune-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught Flight II.

The Original 'Neptune'-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaughts are expected to be upgraded to Flight II standards within the next 5-8 years, two ships are already being cleaned and fitted for the new weapons.

Armament:
Even before the Neptune-Class Super Dreadnaught had even begun design the decision was made to arm her with a main armament of at least 15x 25” guns. The mounting of 25” main guns on a SD was breaking the tradition of the usual main armament of either 27” or 30” guns, and although when you compare the guns the 25 incher seems to lack in stopping power gun for gun, the decrease in weight and increase in ROF was a great trade off, so while a Doujin-class or a ship like it is just about to fire, a Neptune-class would have already launched it’s 25” guns and be preparing another salvo. While this amount of guns (15) was good enough for awhile, with the arrival of the Northumberland Class Pocket-Superdreadnaught on the scene this amount was increased to 24 guns in 6 turrets. These guns are believed to have a broadside weight pound-per-pound greater then the Doujin-Class Super Dreadnaught. The Navy also made the decision to add 8x 8” railguns in four double turrets. The secondary armament consists of 24x 6” guns in 12 dual turrets, 12x 3” guns in single turrets along the out riggers.

The main missile armament consists of 12x 96 cell Mk 136 VLS and 18 Hornet Medium ranged SAM launchers. The CIWS is comprised of 36x 'Rattlesnake' CIWS which consist of a 35mm ‘Rattlesnake’ chain gun, ‘Yellow Jacket’ Mini-SAM and decoys.

The Primary ASW armament is comprised of 6x 650mm Torpedo tubes and 2x 324mm Torpedo tubes, an Anti-Torpedo CIWS is made up of 35mm Super-Cav rapid fire cannons and decoys to destroy/disable or confuse incoming enemy torpedoes.

Flight II Armament:
The staple of the Neptune SDs, as with all other SDs, was it's 25 inch main armarment, now, the Neptune repeatedly found it's self with problems with the turrets, the 25 inchers were much slower to turn, fire and load then their 24 inch counterparts on the fleets BBs, and logsitics sometimes delivered the wrong shells to the wrong ships, a solution to this problem was obvious, arm the Neptunes with 24 inch guns, the saving were obvious, all logistical problems would be promptly ended, and decrease in barrle size, although small, would allow for a quicker reaction (Turning, loading, firing) time then their 25 inch brothers, and it allowed the turrets to become a bit smaller and lighter.

Domestic Version: Due to a recent development(OOC: 10 minutes ago) with Soviet Bloc The Silver Sky Republican Navy has been cleared for the use of the Mark 71 Advanced Naval Cannons (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=817), these weapons will be mounted with all of the weapons from the main 24" guns to the small 3" guns, these weapons are also mounted on the Domestic Version of the PIW Avenger Class Pocket Super Drednaught. These weapons provide dramatic increase in penetrating power over ETC and even in some cases rail guns.

Main Gun Magazines: Each turret has four armored magazine boxes several decks below the turrets with:
250x 24 inch Mark 71 Naval Shaped Charged Shells (Guided or regular)
250x 24 inch Mark 71 Naval (DU)Armor Piercing Incendiary Shells (Guided or regular)
200x 24 inch Mark 71 Naval Sabot(Penetrator is 20 inches) Guided (DU)Armor Piercing Incendiary Shells
200x Various Mark 71 Naval Shells (Nuclear, Cluster, more of the other kinds)

Total: 800 Shells
Keep in mind this is only the safest, most comfortable load, you could fit another 200 shells into the magazines.

Secondary Armament: The secondary armament is very similar to that of the orginal Neptunes, the 4 turrets of dual 203mm railguns have been removed, however the number of 6" ETC guns has been increased by 4, and the caliber upped to 8" inches, this allows the Neptune to engage more armored targets at close range without waiting for the relatively slow 24 inchers. The amount of 3" autocannons has also been increased from 12 turrets to 18 turrets to allow for more air targets to be engaged at the same time.

Other Weapons: "Rattlesnake" CIWS systems have been increased by 4 from 36 to 40 systems, 2 more SAM launchers have been added for a grand total of 20.

Also a relatively new addition to PIW and the world, the 1000mm ultra large torpedo tube has been added, when engineers had learned of the marvel of technology they decided it was a must have for the Neptune, two of the huge tubes have been added, although The Silver Sky has yet to officially purchase any 1000mm torpedoes, also the 324mm tubes have also been increased from two to four tubes.

Another new feature is that the 324mm torpedo tubes can change size, this will allow the 324mm tubes to fire the next generation of PIW torpedos, the torpedoes tubes are capable of firing the following sizes:
324mm tubes: 200mm to 400mm
Although the official stated sizes for firing a torpedo safely and repeatedly are as follow:
324mm tubes: 240mm, 324mm

Export Version: All 24", and 8" guns are regular ETC and have been equipped with Soviet Bloc pioneered EMAS [Electro-Magnetic Acceleration System](Both 24 and 8 inchers) and DGA [Dynamic Gas Assist](8 incher only) system, although this adds weight it allows for much inproved muzzle velocities. A feature also allows for the crew to shut down the EMAS in the event of reactors going off-line, thus reducing power available, or just to save energy when engaged against smaller targets.

1000mm tubes are replaced with 2 more 650mm TTs.

Otherwise it is the same ship as the domestic version

Flight II Armor:
The Silver Sky Navy had decided early on that the Neptune-Class must be greatly armored if it were to survive more then a few battles in today’s world of huge Anti-Ship missiles and 30inch guns. The main armor scheme consist of layers of Advanced armour composite (titanium, vanadium, amorphous steel, aluminum, and ballistic ceramics.); further protection is provided by double-bottomed, reinforced keel, void spaces and a titanium honeycomb frame. Composite rods, KERI foam installed in void spaces, and ceramic kinetic reducing plates for further protection against KE attacks. With an average armor thickness of 2125mm and much greater/smaller in some areas the Neptune-class can shrug off anything below and including a 25 inch gun without sustaining major damage, how every, multiple hits with 25inch guns can penetrate the armor eventually, the 'Neptune', like all other ships, can take a horrific beating, but it is not invincible. The specific armor scheme was created in response to The Macabees’ Argentine-Class Galleon.

Other:
The Neptune-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught incorporates many stealth and countermeasure devices. Most of the stealth devices on the ship are relatively low tech, these include the elimination of any and all 90 Degree surfaces from the ship, this includes railings, stairs, hatches, and the conning(sp?) tower, another measure is that all vertical/horizontal cylinder shapes have been removed including the gun barrel which is made up of a diamond shape, all radar/lidar/laser domes have been angled, and even the age old anchor ties have been reshaped. More high tech devices include LIDAR absorbing materials, and RADAR absorbing paint

Also included is a layer of Space Union’s Quiet Sound solution to the entire ship, this helps lower sound by up to 15-20 Decibels. Countermeasures include, Flares to confuse incoming IR-Seeking missiles; Chaff launchers to confuse incoming Active-Radar Seeking missiles; Active Directional and Un-Directional Radar Jamming System (AD/UDRS): for use against Radar-seeking missiles and fighters, with limited capabilities against small surface ships; Laser Defense System (LDS): Consists of 6 Dome Laser emitters which target and destroy small missiles using lasers and can be used to disable laser guided weapons; 2 (1 bow and stern) Shortstop and Warlock Electronic Protection System (EPS): Disables most any incoming device with an electronically controlled fuse with an 85% success rate.

Another device to help lengthen the battle-life of a Neptune-Class SD is that each ‘Rattlesnake’ CIWS gun and ‘Yellow Jacket’ RAM launcher has its own RADAR and LIDAR emitter/receiver for totally independent targeting, this allows for the engaging of over 36 targets and tracking of over 5,000 targets, land, sea, and air. Another feature is that each gun turret aboard the Neptune can be used for engaging an enemy missile threat, from the big 24” guns to the small 3” guns, they can all fire Fin-Stabilized Canisters or huge shotgun like rounds, although the rounds have yet to receive an official designations, the sailors have dubbed them "Pop Rocks", the name of an American candy, for the sound they make when they go off.

Major Differences:
Besides the differences already metioned their are even more differences between the original Neptune and the Flight II"

The removal of the capacity to unload large amounts of troops, this was done to free up weight/space for more munitions and other things
The complement of aircraft has been decreased from 144 planes to 72 planes, although the most likely combat load is 48, this decreases the clutter of the flight decks and allows for a safer work enviroment, also Naval commanders didn't see the need to carry a super carrier sized amount of planes when the Neptune would likely have a number of aircraft carriers as escorts.
Improvments to the LDS allow the amount of emitters to be reduced from 18 to six, where as the older model could only engage one target at a time the newer models can engage up to 4 targets.
With all of these improvments in design and production the price has dropped by 25 billion USD allowing for faster and cheaper production.

Stats:
Length: 992 m; Beam: 231 m; Draught: 26.9 m
Displacement: 2.54 million tons full load
Domestic Version Armament:
6x 4 610mm (24”) Mark 71 Naval Guns in A, B, C, X, Y, Z positions(Replaced with ETC in Export Version)
28x 203mm (8”) Mark 71 Naval Guns in 14 dual turrets (7 each port and starboard)(Replaced with ETC in Export Version)
18x 76.2mm (3”) Mark 71 Naval Guns, Anti-air/fast ship guns in single mounts (9 each port and starboard on out riggers) (Replaced with ETC in Export Version)
40x 'Rattlesnake' 35mm CIWS (20 each port and starboard )
18x Anti-torpedo CIWS (anti-torpedo super-cav 35mm cannon and countermeasures)
4x 324mm Torpedo Tubes
6x 650mm Torpedo Tubes
4x 1000mm Ultra-Large Torpedo Tubes
12x 96 cell Mk 136 VLS (Enough to hold 1152 'Scourge' anti-ship missiles, or many more smaller missiles)
20x SAM launchers (9 each port and starboard. Capable of launching Hornet Medium SAMs or similar missiles)
Protection: Advanced armour composite (titanium, vanadium, amorphous steel, aluminum, and ballistic ceramics); double-bottomed, reinforced keel, void spaces and a titanium honeycomb frame. Composite rods, KERI foam installed in void spaces, and ceramic kinetic reducing plates for further protection against KE attacks.
Engine Compartment: 2,200mm
Hull, Deck, and Hatches: 1,900mm
Magazine and Turret: 2,100mm
Glue Structures(Section that connects all the hulls): 2,300mm
Aircraft: Capable of carrying and launching 72 aircraft on two full flight decks along the outriggers. Also carries 24 helicopters for ASW patrols.
Complement: 11,000 naval; 600 aircrew; 2,000 Naval infantry
Propulsion: 12x Pebblebed nuclear reactors with 14 propulsors and eight internalized waterjets. Compulsators provide power from central power system to turrets. Extensive thermal insulation surrounds each reactor to reduce noise emissions and infrared signature. 32 knots maximum 30 knots maximum cruise.
Electronics: AN/SLY-2 (V) Advanced Integrated Electronics Warfare System
AN/SPY-4 MFR and AN/SPN-23 navigational radars
AN/SQR-6 (B ) passive towed array and AN/SQS-57 dual-mode mounted digital sonar array
A/P Mounted Sonar: AN/SQS-57 active/passive, preformed beam, digital sonar providing panoramic echo ranging and panoramic (DIMUS) passive surveillance.
Countermeasures: AN/SLQ-25 Nixie
Flares/Chaff to confuse incoming IR/RADAR-Seeking missiles
Active Directional/Un-Directional Radar Jamming System (AD/UDRS): for use against Radar-seeking missiles and fighters, with limited capabilities against surface ships; Max range:100km Effective range: >25km
Laser Defense System (LDS): Consists of 6 Dome Laser emitters which target and destroy small missiles using lasers and can be used to disable laser guided weapons.
Shortstop and Warlock Electronic Protection System (EPS): Disables any incoming device with an electronically controlled fuse with an 90% success rate. Effective range: 1500m

Production Price: $250 Billion USD
Price for export version: $270 billion USD (Will do background checks)
Price for Refits of existing Neptune SDNs to Flight II Export: $50 Billion USD


[[I]'Neptune'-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught Flight II's in Service]
The Silver Sky:
SSRS 'Kaitou' - Flagship of the 1st Naval Armada
SSRS 'Jason H. Garner' - Deployed with the 1st Naval Aramda
SSRS 'Neptune' - Deployed with the 1st Naval Aramda
SSRS 'Tranquility' - Flagship of the 2nd Naval Armada
SSRS 'North Point' - Deployed with the 2nd Naval Armada
SSRS 'Distant Thunder' - Deployed with the 2nd Naval Armada
SSRS 'Aurora' - Flagship of the 3rd Naval Fleet
SSRS 'Challenger' - Flagship of the 4th Naval Fleet
SSRS 'Discovery' - Flagship of the 5th Naval Fleet
SSRS 'Freedom' - Flagship of the 6th Naval Fleet
SSRS 'Atlantis' - Flagship of the 7th Naval Fleet
SSRS 'Hogsweat' - Flagship of the 8th Naval Fleet
The Silver Sky
11-11-2005, 05:41
OOC: Forgot about the credits:

Sarzonia: For help with the original Neptune-Class SD, and providing early comments on this version
Soviet Bloc: For letting me use his Mark 71 Naval Cannons, for being a great giving guy/friend, even if he is minus half a leg, for now.:)
The guys at the NS Draft Room (http://s13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?act=idx): For help me polish the stats and other what not.
The Silver Sky
11-11-2005, 07:55
*BUMP* Added magazine stats, fixed some errors, heading to bed.:)
The Silver Sky
11-11-2005, 15:17
*bump*
The Silver Sky
11-11-2005, 16:06
[OOC:] OK, yeah, last post for a bit, I've been tweaking with the write, I want to make sure that the stats and the write up say the samething, I also added some last minute adjustments should be the last edit in a while. Finally!
IC:

Official Press Release From
Silver Sky National Arms

'Neptune'-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught Flight II Update
(Project 147)

It is official, the Flight II upgrades are being done, two 'Neptune'-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaughts have been labeled for immediate conversion to Flight II standards, the 'Jason H. Garner' is currently under going the changing of the main turrets, while the 'Kaitou' is undering going the removal of it's 6" Dual Turrets and Railguns.

Upgrades are expected to take in the order of 2-3 months for each ship.

Two more ships are being scheduled for upgrades already, the 'Enterprise', and the 'North Point' are to begin upgrades within the next 1-2 months.

The Silver Sky Military has had a question on what to do with the excess turrets, since no more ships are on the planning board and We Buy It Inc. already has enough ships to suit it's needs that the remaining turrets will either be scrapped and used for new turrets on upgrading existing 'Neptunes', or possibly used as shore fortifications. Although they know where at least 1 turret will end up, the Museum of Naval Engineering has agreed to pay $1 Billion USD in order to obtain a old Neptune turret, this also includes 2 rail gun turrets and 4 6" Gun turrets, a seperate $2 Million order has also been put for 6 3" guns by the museum.

-Steven Miller, CEO
Silver Sky National Arms
We Buy It Inc.
Southeastasia
11-11-2005, 16:47
OOC: TSS, why don't you sign up at Lineartinc and request a commision there for your SD?
The Silver Sky
11-11-2005, 16:50
OOC: TSS, why don't you sign up at Lineartinc and request a commision there for your SD?
OOC: I signed up like the 1st day it was open, I requested a commision for the older Neptune, didn't get done, I might put it up again, might.
The Silver Sky
11-11-2005, 19:04
Project 147 Update

'Neptune'-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught Flight II

Both the 'Jason H. Garner' and the 'Kaitou' have finished refits on time, even a bit early, and the 'Jason H. Garner' is being put on a new assignment.

OOC: glorified bump
Magdha-
11-11-2005, 19:14
"I would like to purchase 5 of these for 1,350,000,000,000. If this exceeds my budget, I would like to inquire as to whether I could pay it off in yearly increments. Please let me know if this is acceptable. At any rate, payment will be wired should this order be confirmed."

--Generalissimo J.L.--
The Silver Sky
11-11-2005, 19:19
OOC: Rember, this is the export version

IC:

Your purchase has been confirmed,while the total price is equal to half of your military budget we can allow you to pay on a year by year basis, how does $135 Billion a year for the next ten years sound?

It will take approx. 15 years for all to be deleived, they will be delivered one every 3 years.
Magdha-
11-11-2005, 19:21
OOC: Rember, this is the export version

IC:

Your purchase has been confirmed,while the total price is equal to half of your military budget we can allow you to pay on a year by year basis, how does $135 Billion a year for the next ten years sound?

It will take approx. 15 years for all to be deleived, they will be delivered one every 3 years.

"That will be fine. This year's payment has been wired."

--Generalissimo J.L.--
Sarzonia
11-11-2005, 19:25
TSS, please check TGs.
The Silver Sky
11-11-2005, 19:36
TSS, please check TGs.
Replied
Sarzonia
11-11-2005, 19:37
RepliedOOC: I just sent another one.
The Silver Sky
11-11-2005, 19:41
"That will be fine. This year's payment has been wired."

--Generalissimo J.L.--
IC: After a more extensive check of your nations background, word from our associates and partners at PIW, and the firing of a few souls for screwing up we have to cancel your order, the first payment has been wired back with an extra $50 billion, sorry for the complications, but you will need to look else where.

Steven Miller, CEO
Silver Sky National Arms
Irondin
11-11-2005, 19:48
Irondin wishes to buy 2

540 billion wired
The Silver Sky
11-11-2005, 20:04
Irondin wishes to buy 2

540 billion wired
Your order is being considered, although we need to wait for our partners at PIW.
Irondin
11-11-2005, 20:08
very well.
The Silver Sky
11-11-2005, 22:25
Our allies have confirmed the order of two Neptune Flight IIs to Irondin as long as Irondin agrees to never sell them, if they are phased out please send them back.

Production will take 10 years.
Halberdgardia
11-11-2005, 23:04
The Democratic Imperium would like to submit its own Neptune-class superdreadnaught, the Hammer of Vengeance, for upgrading to the Flight II variant. $50 billion will be wired upon confirmation.
Irondin
11-11-2005, 23:09
Our allies have confirmed the order of two Neptune Flight IIs to Irondin as long as Irondin agrees to never sell them, if they are phased out please send them back.

Production will take 10 years.

thank you
The Silver Sky
11-11-2005, 23:14
You're just in time! We Buy It Inc. has just finished the production of it's last battleship, the last dock capable of servicing the Neptunes is open, please tell the crew to head towards Comberth Harbor, you will have to provide escort to our national waters but after that we will escort it, we can either arrange for them to be transported back to Halberdgardia and sail the Neptune back when done for an additional fee of $10 Million USD, or the sailors can stay in our nation until the work is done(Room and board will be provided), about 2-3 months, and then sail the ship back to your nation.

Steven Miller,
Chief Executive Officer,
Silver Sky National Arms,
We Buy It Inc.
Warta Endor
11-11-2005, 23:32
Warta Endor wishes to purchase 5 of the Neptune Flight II ships, at a cost of 1350 million USD. The money will be wired immediately after reply.

Admiral Cranach of the Warta Endorean Navy
The Silver Sky
12-11-2005, 00:06
While we have cleared purchase we want to make sure our partner at PIW ok the purchase.
The Voltarum
12-11-2005, 03:01
To: Steven Miller, CEO Silver Sky National Arms

Greetings from your Woodstock Pact Allies. We would like to purchase 3 of your Neptune Class Flight II, and upgrade our two Flight I ships, the Valen and the Rotarin.

(3) $270 billion USD = $810 bill
(2) Refits of existing Neptune SDNs to Flight II Export: $50 Billion USD = $100 bill

Total = $910 billion.

Money will be wired upon completion of sale.

With Respect,
Admiral Ja'rod Kathon
Viceroy, Voltarum National Navy
Czardas
12-11-2005, 03:31
~ From: The Czardaian Navy Headquarters, Czardas
To: Steven Miller, CEO of We Buy It Inc.

The Libertarian Concordance of Czardas would like to purchase two (2) Neptune-class Flight IIs, at a total price of $540 billion USD. While most of our $3.8 trillion yearly military budget is in use, preventing us from wiring the full payment immediately, we will be able to pay in three yearly installments of $180 billion, sending the first installment after completion of sale.

~General Henrik A. Ogden, Field Marshal, Admiral-in-Chief, Leader of the Czardaian Army ~
The Silver Sky
12-11-2005, 03:48
The Voltarum:

To: Admiral Ja'rod Kathon
Viceroy, Voltarum National Navy
From: Steven Miller
Chief Executive Officer, Silver Sky Nation Arms

We are positive that our friends at Portland Iron Works will have confirmed your order so we are going ahead with confirmation, our shipyards are already filled to the brim, but in our new colony were are able to produce 2 'Neptunes' at a time, so unless some shipyards are done early it will take approx. 16(two in eight years and the last one in another 8 years) years for them to be completed and for sea trials to be completed.

However, with our ships yards back logged as much as they are we suggest you keep the Neptune SDN Flight Is for now, or you may find yourself without any for a while, a message will be sent to you as soon as we expect a shipyard to be available, we hope this it ok.

Czardas:

To: General Henrik A. Ogden,
Field Marshal, Admiral-in-Chief, Leader of the Czardaian Army
From: Steven Miller
Chief Executive Officer, Silver Sky Nation Arms

Your purchase has been confirmed, but we are sad to inform you that all of our shipyards are full now, it will be another 1-2 years before 2 yards are open for use, so you can add another 2 years onto the construction time, coming out to about 10 years for 2 ships, we hope this will be of no problem.
Czardas
12-11-2005, 03:54
OOC: Czardas you have no defence budget, but if you make me an offer I could build you some, pay maintence and wait until you have a defence budget for payment.
[ooc:] I have a defense budget; I have explained many times that I never use NSEconomy's stats, and barely even stick to my NS ones (I RP with a smaller population for instance). My stats are noted in the post linked to in the signature, the way they ought to be for RP purposes. I got fed up with NSEconomy's stats after raising military spending three times very blatantly and with no effect whatsoever...
The Silver Sky
12-11-2005, 04:11
OOC: Edited my post, sorry about that Czardas.:)
Czardas
12-11-2005, 04:18
OOC: Edited my post, sorry about that Czardas.:)
[ooc:] That's ok, a lot of people make this kind of mistake... evidently...

[ic:]

~~~~~~~~~~
From: General Henrik A. Ogden, Field Marshal, Admiral-in-Chief, Leader of the Czardaian Army
To: Steven Miller, Chief Executive Officer, Silver Sky Nation Arms

That will not be a problem. We are wiring the first $180 billion to SSNA immediately. Thank you for your time.

~Gen. Henrik A. Ogden
~~~~~~~~~~
The Voltarum
12-11-2005, 20:13
The Voltarum:

To: Admiral Ja'rod Kathon
Viceroy, Voltarum National Navy
From: Steven Miller
Chief Executive Officer, Silver Sky Nation Arms

We are positive that our friends at Portland Iron Works will have confirmed your order so we are going ahead with confirmation, our shipyards are already filled to the brim, but in our new colony were are able to produce 2 'Neptunes' at a time, so unless some shipyards are done early it will take approx. 16(two in eight years and the last one in another 8 years) years for them to be completed and for sea trials to be completed.

However, with our ships yards back logged as much as they are we suggest you keep the Neptune SDN Flight Is for now, or you may find yourself without any for a while, a message will be sent to you as soon as we expect a shipyard to be available, we hope this it ok.



To: Steven Miller
Chief Executive Officer, Silver Sky Nation Arms
From: Admiral Ja'rod Kathon
Viceroy, Voltarum National Navy

That is acceptable. These three new ships will service our own new colony, so building them at your colony is very advantageous. The Valen and the Rotarin will be continue to remain active in our fleet until such time you can accomodate them. Many thanks.
The Silver Sky
13-11-2005, 03:18
*bump*
The Silver Sky
19-11-2005, 16:15
*bump*
Spizania
19-11-2005, 16:31
The Confederacy would like to purchase 1 Flight II Neptune Superdreadnaught for our colonial fleet,

We would also like to discuss whether it would be possible for us to order a superdreadnaught hull with out the guns mounted in the turrets, we wish to do this so that we amy rearm it with our weapons.
The Silver Sky
19-11-2005, 16:38
Your purchase for one (1) 'Neptune'-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught Flight II Export Version has been confirmed by us, but we need the ok from Portland Iron Works in order to complete the sale. Please bare with us and wait.

Thank you.
The Silver Sky
20-11-2005, 02:41
*bump*
Spizania
20-11-2005, 02:53
Has my purcahse been approved yet?
Andaras Prime
20-11-2005, 02:58
IC: My nation is technically without an official navy, we have no separation of such, our Iron Fist Eagles are our technical army, but we only have very few army transports. Would such a vessel advertised here be advantagious to starting a fleet, I'm really looking for heavy escourt-support vessels that can quickly transport large numbers of troops and armoured vehicles to inland nations. It is imperative that these ships can defend themselves adequately against both air and sea attacks, but I wish for them to maintain just defensive capabilities to transporting armies. Am I looking in the wrong place for starting? A group of ships capable of transporting in the area of 300,000 troops at any one time is the area I'm looking at. I'm also pretty sure I can afford it, please correct me if I'm wrong or redirect me to such a place that I can obtain such vessels at my current economy. http://nstracker.retrogade.com/index.php?nation=andaras+prime

Imperator Samuel II, Andaras Prime
The Silver Sky
20-11-2005, 03:14
We believe that while the Neptune-Class is a great vessel we would suggest to nations that do not want to invest in a huge navy to buy more then 1 of these vessels simply because of upkeep cost, as for what you want your navy to be, a transport navy, we suggest you start here at Portland Iron Works (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404832) run by our ally and partner Sarzonia, they have many naval vessels that will hopefully fit your needs. We are also very sure they you could afford a medium to large size navy with your current budget.

We wish you well in your quest for just the right navy.

Steven Miller
Chief Executive Officer
Silver Sky National Armaments
Andaras Prime
20-11-2005, 03:17
We believe that while the Neptune-Class is a great vessel we would suggest to nations that do not want to invest in a huge navy to buy more then 1 of these vessels simply because of upkeep cost, as for what you want your navy to be, a transport navy, we suggest you start here at Portland Iron Works (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404832) run by our ally and partner Sarzonia, they have many naval vessels that will hopefully fit your needs. We are also very sure they you could afford a medium to large size navy with your current budget.

We wish you well in your quest for just the right navy.

Steven Miller
Chief Executive Officer
Silver Sky National Armaments
The Imperium thanks you greatly...
The Silver Sky
20-11-2005, 03:20
OOC: I confused you more huh? :p
Andaras Prime
20-11-2005, 03:33
OOC: Sorry, kinda new to this, I mean i've rp'ed before, just trying to work out if i have the funds to do this, like convert my currency to us or whatever. The Normandy-class transport looks to be the one I want, though it doesn't specifically say how many troops it can carry.
The Silver Sky
20-11-2005, 03:39
OOC: No, that's fine, and the NS tracker thing is wacked up, just regard the little currency symbols in the fields, it's all in USD, the maker messed it up and forgot to fix it. I think their is one ship towards the end of the thread, last few pages, that will work better then the Normandy-class for you money and needs.

Anyway, welcome to the world of NS RP, if you need anything at all, send me a TG or just post in one of my threads.
Andaras Prime
20-11-2005, 05:15
OOC: No, that's fine, and the NS tracker thing is wacked up, just regard the little currency symbols in the fields, it's all in USD, the maker messed it up and forgot to fix it. I think their is one ship towards the end of the thread, last few pages, that will work better then the Normandy-class for you money and needs.

Anyway, welcome to the world of NS RP, if you need anything at all, send me a TG or just post in one of my threads.
OOC: So accordingly to thirdgeek, my government budget is 51 trillion, therefore my my military budget is about 8.7 trillion. Is that how it works with RP buying on ns? and how do i convert the US etc..
The Silver Sky
20-11-2005, 05:21
OOC: Yes that's how it works with buying stuff on NS,

And you don't convert the USD to other currencies, most people just buy/sell with the USD, although you might run into the random person that does all transactions with their own NS nations currency, but don't worry about that for now.
Andaras Prime
20-11-2005, 05:57
OOC: Yes that's how it works with buying stuff on NS,

And you don't convert the USD to other currencies, most people just buy/sell with the USD, although you might run into the random person that does all transactions with their own NS nations currency, but don't worry about that for now.
OOC: And so if i use my military budget to buy some vessels, and i can afford, if their additional cost such as keeping the ships operational etc...?
The Silver Sky
20-11-2005, 06:06
OOC: And so if i use my military budget to buy some vessels, and i can afford, if their additional cost such as keeping the ships operational etc...?
Yeah, you got to factor in operational cost, a good rule of thumb for ships is to divide the production cost by 30 to get opeational cost, and another good rule is to keep your government waste and any excess from defence budgets(you can just calculate your self on how much you save) to buy new weapons, also, never spend more then 1/5 of your defence budget at a time, many players will allow you to pay over NS years (For storefronts NS year = 1day usually).
The Silver Sky
22-11-2005, 18:35
*bump*
Spizania
22-11-2005, 18:51
OOC:Please tell me if i ave been approved yet!
The Silver Sky
22-11-2005, 19:46
OOC: Talking to Sarz as I type this.

I'll get back to you shortly.
The Silver Sky
22-11-2005, 20:06
We have good news! In a brief exchange with our counterparts at Portland Iron Works they have agreed to confirm your order, the construction has already started, it will take approx 8 years to construct and deliver the ship.

-Steven Miller
Spizania
22-11-2005, 20:34
OOC: Excellent!
The Silver Sky
25-11-2005, 16:00
*bump*
Southeastasia
26-11-2005, 17:31
bump
The Silver Sky
27-11-2005, 17:10
*bump*
Spizania
27-11-2005, 17:14
The Confederate States of Spizania would like to order one stripped down Neptune Class Superdreadnaught for conversion into a SuperDreadNaught hunter on par with the Argentine Class Galleon.
The Silver Sky
27-11-2005, 17:25
To: The Confederate States of Spizania
From: Steven Miller, CEO
Silver Sky National Armaments

Why a Super Dreadnaught hunter? In our opinion the Argentine Class Galleon, is a slight waste of money, although it could easily take on the most armored SDs it is greatly vunerable to air and submarine attacks, to to metion long range missiles. It cannot preform the same roles as a SD can and require more anti-air defensive ships to protect it. But none the less we can do so. But first, what do you mean by stripped down? The weapons gone, the missiles gone, or everything from the weapons to the sensors and nuclear reactors?
Spizania
27-11-2005, 17:27
The confederate states means withthe guns and missiles removed
The Silver Sky
27-11-2005, 17:39
You order has been confirmed, it will take 5 years to construct the hull and other systems. The cost will be $195 Billion USD.
Southeastasia
07-12-2005, 15:01
bump
Southeastasia
18-12-2005, 10:45
bump