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Shortly after applying for membership in the United Nations, the miniscule nation known as Astfglia (http://www.nationstates.net/astfglia) spontaneously declared war on Xelondia (http://www.nationstates.net/xelondia) - the only nation which it hitherto had any form of trade relations with.

Volunteer Riklurt Molvanian of the Holy Republic of Astfglia did not comment on the incident, but a telegram with a declaration of war has been sent to the Xelondian nation. Anthropologists and theologians are theorizing that the sudden declaration of war is based on the Astfglian religious zeal, which they claim Xelondia has violated.

Hitherto Astfglia and Xelondia has been in a trade federation mostly because they share the same religion, which emphasises freedom as a divine right. Recently, however, the Empire of Xelondia outlawed elections completely. This was probably the reason for Astfglias sudden outburst of violence - regardless, it will most likely complicate their entering of the United Nations.

Reports from independent journalists show that Astfglia has only managed to mobilize a very small army, equipped with second-hand rifles they pawned from a smuggling organization. Several conspiracy theories claim that the weapons have in fact been covertly bought from another nation, though...

The size of Astfglias army has been measured to about 5,000 men - though only about 500 of these are armed with any modern weapons whatsoever. The remainder is believed to be using weapons most recently used at Astfglias declaration of independence sometimes during the First World War.

The army is currently moving on foot across the border to Xelondia.

Astfglia,
After the complete reformation of our Armed Forces, we have litterally tens of millions of second hand firearms for sale. We do not care for your ideals or religion, but we would be willing to sell you any number of these weapons for dirt cheap prices.

AVAILABLE
12,000,000 Assorted 9mm Handguns ($100 USD each)
7,300,000 AK-74 Assault Rifles ($300 USD each
4,600,000 M4A1 Carbines ($350 USD each)
3,900,000 M16A2 Assault Rifles ($400 USD each)
170,000 Steyr AUG Assault Rifles ($600 USD each)
1,573 Cruise Missiles ($200,000 USD each)(Small, old and conventional)
271 Mobile Launch Vehicles ($100,000 each)(Somewhat unreliable)

Hello Imperial Raven, I am not apart of the conflict but could you telegram me about your weapons for sale. I am interested in buying Assault rifles for my upgrading army.

But this is not the Forum to discuss this so can you telegram me please.

Shortly after the declaration of war, it seems Astfglias odds improved as they have already struck a deal with The Imperial Raven, purchasing used & new weapons off the (rather large) state. People of Astfglia reputedly doubt the legitimacy of the Imperial Raven, but authorities are evidently ignoring this.

According to some sources, the Astfglian army has ordered automatic carbines for its entire army, as well as numerous cruise missiles - though the latter has not yet been confirmed by the Astfglian generals.

Regardless, it seems like the forces will be fully armed as soon as The Imperial Raven can deliver these weapons. The Astfglian economy certainly is strong enough (so far) for the Imperial Raven to recieve a rather good payment.

OOC: Does Xelondia actually know your declaring war on them??

Official Message from the Holy Imperium of Banduria, Foreign Affairs Office

The Holy Imperium finds your declaration of war not only offensive but laughable. Not only are you violating the laws of national sovereignty and the God-given rights of the state of Xelondia, but you are doing so with a ridiculously small number of troops. If you ever had even the faintest hope of victory, give it up now, for if you attack this nation the Holy Imperium will send its own troops to defeat you. And even just one division of our unstoppable Legions could defeat your whole army easily. But we will not use just one division for this war. We will make your rivers run blood and utterly destroy every last one of your citizens if you continue this aggression as a lesson to warmongers worldwide. Reconsider this war or we will make you.

Charles Perian
Imperial Minister for Foreign Affairs

OOC: Yes, they do. Let's wait for the response of the Xelondian government before we take this war any further... He should be logging in any minute, dag nabbit!

OOC: Oh ok. Phew., THere have been cases were a newer nation would declare war on another nation that didnt even go to the fourms. I almost did once:headbang:

--Open Transmission--

Given that our nation's military has sat around, doing nothing for quite some time now, we are making a limited-time offer for, that's right, mercenary work. First-come-first serve for this offer, so act now!

--Transmission End--

Presidential Emperor Edmund Wolfgang Tokareff of The Edmundsislian People's Republic (formerly Depkazia or The Depkazi Federation) has, despite his blindingly obvious if somewhat bizarre dictatorship, voiced praise for the Astfglian cause in pursuit of freedom. Further, he has scoffed openly at Banduria's threats and posturing related to the matter, and promised to assemble the Grand Fleet of the Edmundsislian Navy and dispatch it to intercept any Bandurian attempt at intervention.




...unfortunately, Edmundsisle is entirely landlocked and owns no ocean-going vessels.

~~~Official Statement from the Imperial Foreign Ministry~~~

The Holy Imperium highly doubts that the "Grand Fleet" of this small and insignificant nation would do significant damage to even one of our carrier battle groups, let alone anything even approaching the size of the First Imperial Naval Armada. The Imperium will continue upon its current course.

Unsigned

Open Telegram from Chancellor Regis Noboristein, head of the Soviet council of Blinnikov. Confederacy of Huertumn. (http://www.nationstates.net/Huertumn)

Esteemed Holy Republic of Astfglia:

Given that our own Nation has had the necessity to recently reduce its political freedoms, even after the fact that voting has become voluntary, our own national history simpathizes with your current affair's interests. How can a state expect to posess sovereignty over its own lands, when it cannot allow other political parties to demonstrate their own ideology?

We are absolutely persuaded to believe that the Holy Republic of Xelondia intends to maintain this decision for an indefinite amount of time; And as such, the Confederacy of Huertumn urges Xelondia to refrain from any further reductions in electoral freedoms. In complete accordance with your nation's demands, our rather small-sized, but highly moralistic troops will be deployed in 48 hours, by foot (due to lack of any other transport method), over Xelondia's borders, unless Xelondian high command gives weight and importance to your (and now, our) demands. Your nation is not alone in this incident.



Hoping for the better resolution of the conflict,


-Chancellor Regis Noboristein.

OOC: That being, if you don't mind my own participation. Also, do ignore the current 'Poggrom' account. It'll stay up until I find out how to log out. Cheers.

OFFICIAL CONCORDIAT COMMUNIQUE
DEPARTMENT OF STATE

The Iron Concordiat demands that Astfglia immediatly remove its armed forces from the border with Xelondia and stand down. This kind of capricious war-mongering will not be tolerated. Please comply before we are forced into more forceful measures.

-Vice-Undersecretary of State Ruud Verelk

OOC: Are you guys really going to bother invading a small nation? Do you care? Why spoil the fun?

IC:

We are interested in selling arms to Xelondia, either MT, PMT or FT. Heres our storefront:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452640

MT weapons can be produced on request, as we have a number of build rights to them. They include the M1A3 tank, AR-15M assault rifle, F-1 Frag Grenade, Nantu LMG machine gun and more. Just ask.

SECRET IC TO Xelondia, BCC'ed TO Astfglia

To whom it may concern:

We have recently become aware of your recent conflict with your former ally. PRA is interested in supplying you with the latest in advanced infantry armament. Please respond as soon as possible to this generous offer.

Yours,
Daniel Quetzal
CEO of Pale Rider Arms
Regent Elect of Otagia

OOC: See the PRA Small Arms and Creative Weapons links in my signature, and I'll give a PMT link upon request. Oh, and quit it with the dogpiling, will you guys? I can't see the war over your swollen egos. ;)

Oh, and quit it with the dogpiling, will you guys? I can't see the war over your swollen egos.


I have to say just one thing. If the Astfglian Government doesn't de-mobilize their military, my allies and I will be forced take serious action in the way of mobilizing our armies.

OOC: I'm afraid a population of 45 million isn't going to be enough to strike fear into the hearts of these valiant soldiers. And your allies' biggest nation is certainly awe-inspiring... with its imploded economy. What would they use as bullets? Rice?

Do try to meddle in the affairs of this issue by bossing them around with your comparatively large nation, and our own state shall be forced to stand up as well. Along with the entire Axis of Evil.

Seriously now, let's let the small nations intervene in the conflict, while we sit back and comfortably watch. :)

The Imperium of Serapindal informs Astfglia that it has our full support, and we will send support if you ask us to.

OOC: I'm afraid a population of 45 million isn't going to be enough to strike fear into the hearts of these valiant soldiers. And your allies' biggest nation is certainly awe-inspiring... with its imploded economy. What would they use as bullets? Rice?
Er....the largest pro-Xelondia nations both appear to have 'Frightening' economies, and Peligrosos is apparently on Xelondia's side. :confused: Who do you mean there?

First Imperial Naval Armada

OOC: I find this funny because armada is Spanish for navy, the First Imperial Naval Navy :p

OOC: I find this funny because armada is Spanish for navy, the First Imperial Naval Navy :p
[ooc:] I'm guessing it was as opposed to an air armada? An Air Navy, ha, that doesn't make much sense either.

Although, he may not know Spanish ICly, and might just be using the word because he's seen other people use it and needed a name for his fleet. :p

OOC:

Er....the largest pro-Xelondia nations both appear to have 'Frightening' economies, and Peligrosos is apparently on Xelondia's side. Who do you mean there?

The nation of peligrosos has a population of 50 million. When he said "my allies and I", I assumed he meant his region, Mayene (http://www.nationstates.net/23807/page=display_region/region=mayene). The only nation with a population above 200 million, as far as I can see, is Megalopolous (http://www.nationstates.net/23807/page=display_nation/nation=megalopolous), and its economic state is currently 'imploded'. Hence my question as to whether their "serious action" would involve stone-throwing. :rolleyes:

The fact that other nations in the thread have decided to become involved with the conflict in Xelondia's side is another matter entirely. I'm not counting them as Peligrosos' allies.

Hope that clarifies the issue.

Is this Xelonida guy ever going to reply? It's funny that these big nations are overshadowing the war between the little guys.

And you guys underestimate tiny countries. During the early 1990s, Isreal had 5 million people but made nukes, aircraft, ships, tanks, and all kinds of stuff! We shouldn't make nation size such a big deal. Not only does it not make sense, that isn't what this game is about. Who cares how big a country is? We're just roleplaying, making stuff up. This isn't necesarily a small war just because the nations involved are new. Most of the countries in the world would be considered microscopic by NS standards.

(OOC: Plus, the nations that consider themselves bigshots in this thread thus far are actually puny by NS standards and I don't think their random intervention makes sense, since they're just asking for someone like, ooh, my main account to come along and liberate their tiny populations before breakfast. Let the little guys have a fight if they want, a war with a few thousand troops would be novel in an NS context, a war where someone ignores the will of their population and tries to conquer without reason and ends up getting picked up by the ankles and bashed against a tree by a really powerful nation is sooo passé. Hint hint.
Sorry, I just get most annoyed by little one paragraph comments by players who think their nations mean something and that they don't have to do anything but show-up and everyone will be impressed. We're not impressed.)

OOC:

And you guys underestimate tiny countries. During the early 1990s, Isreal had 5 million people but made nukes, aircraft, ships, tanks, and all kinds of stuff! We shouldn't make nation size such a big deal. Not only does it not make sense, that isn't what this game is about. Who cares how big a country is? We're just roleplaying, making stuff up. This isn't necesarily a small war just because the nations involved are new.

While I do agree with you, to a point, I do believe the reason for judging a nation's military size based on its population is aimed so as to prevent two-day-old states from entering the forums, with no knowledge whatsoever of basic rping, and randomly starting n00king every person they see. Also, a 6 billion people nation (with an averagely fair economy) should have some sort of advantage over a state with a population one-tenth in size. Think of the reason why the soviets crushed Nazi troops after Operation Barbarossa. Sheer numbers.

Alas, Israel's history does prove a solid basis for a small country being able to defend itself, but one must consider the UN passed two different cease-fires, which bought them enough time to gather weapons from Czechoslovaquia (hope that's how it's spelled). Then again, it's also important to remember most Israeli equipment is funded and provided by the US, and it's therefore quite hard to compete against such an important sponsor.

This is turning into thread hijacking though, and I must heartedly apologize to Astfglia for it. Let's just get on with the roleplaying once Xelondia answers.

I assumed he meant his region, Mayene.

I have strong allies in other places.

OOC: May i suggest an OOC thread for this?? This might turn from a really small annoying war to a Really Big Ego war. Im thinking on joining but not sure which side.

The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski and it's Republics support Peligrosos in this conflict. Armaments, ammo, and limited military support will be provided, if needed.

[ooc: Actually, I think I'll draw out... I have more important military engagements elsewhere anyway, so ignore my post. And note that all Bandurians think they're really the best at everything anyway—His Sacred Imperial Highness Lucius I is an exceedingly egotistical man. ;)]

(You damn big nations destroyed this thread with OCC's!!)

Nobody destroyed anything, everyone is just waiting for Xelondia to reply.

OOC: We don't even know if Astfglia does want other nations in this conflict. We should wait for his reply as well.

Astfglia, you want some scramjet super-heavy anti ship missiles, designed to take out super-dreads, free of charge ? I have a large excess of them. (some 2500 just laying around, for 8 years)

I'd be interested in them. Not for this war, but I am currently defending Ankhmet against foreign invaders and any help is appreciated.

Really Small and Annoying War

GOT THAT RIGHT!!!

OK, guys, I just would LOVE to see a war WITHOUT twenty-odd nations becoming involved, just one-on-one, my brigade vs. your brigade. I have never seen a thread like that, except one war between me and one of my puppets. (they're now my allies)

Let's just step back, and let these countries work it out by themselves, and if we see an ending approaching we don't like, use limited intervention such as SpecOps or a terrorist action.

OK, and if that doesn't work, I'd like to sell a few weapons to any side interested, but only for this war.

M1 Garand rifles (Got a LOT of those for home defense, and they're cheap) $100
CAR-15 rifles- $500
M1 Abrams tanks- $3 million
M113 APC- $1.2 million
Mercenary terror cells (from El Almaan, aforementioned puppet) $1,000,000 per cell per week per op (10 men per cell; special weapons and tactics, explosives, sabatoge, recon, destruction of light enemy forces)
M1096 Concrete Blocks- $10,000 for a 20-ton block (various purposes, good for airdropping on to enemy positions or for obstacles)