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In reference to this thread. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=450399)
You should note what i say ICly should be taken w/ a pinch (more like a shake, or a ton..) of salt. It's probably likely I took civilian casualties in infrastructure bombing but not as many as the comrade commissar claims: there is no way of knowing (since I don't allow red cross in, and foreign aid workers from only selected countries) oh, and that thread is closed IC, you need to consult us both to post there..if you are going to do anything put it here plx.]
IC:

Press Statement By Comrade Commissar Chukiov
Attention, all nations that support democracy, liberty, and freedom,
The Valiant Commonwealth of Hogsweat, after suffering a great tragedy that you surely all know of, has come under recent attacks from the warmongering imperialist government of Scandavian States. There has been no official declaration of war and no reason for war, yet, against a nation coming to terms with a loss of four billion civilians and the utter desecration of it's homeland. I have here, on this compact disk, the names of a hundred and eighty thousand civilians killed, in cold blood, by Scandavian precision, yes, PRECISION, bombing.
In addition to this, I have heard that Hogsweatian ballistic submarines have launched missile strikes against Scandavian cities, killing thousands. I, nor any member of my government have authorised this action and no doubt it comes from the hearts of the crew onboard that submarine who lust for vengeance for the many many dead on our land.
Finally, I hereby, in the name of the Government of the Valiant Commonwealth of Hogsweat, declare a state of total war against Scandavian States and, in absentia, have judged it's government, royal family, aristocracy, and high military command, to death for Terrorism, War Crimes, and Crimes against Humanity. We will fight until the death, for the honour and the traditions of our people. This, to my country, I promise.

Temple of the Senate (Closed Session), Shino

The Consul of the Senate Brian Perry, Second-In-Command of Semirhage and Head of the Senate sat on the High Chair of the Consul as the debate on the war between Hogsweak and the Scandavian States raged on. "What happens if Hogsweat manages to destroy the Scandavian States completely?" Senator Purra said in a voice that was hoarse from hours of talking, "Remember all that stands between the Republic and an invasion from The Parthians is the Scandavian States! If they lose, WE lose."

Senator Bara then replyed with his voice dripping with distain, "What do you suggest we do, send military support? Our armed forces are no where NEAR ready for a military engagement, 25 years of pure pacifist policy will do that."

After another hour of this unproductive arguing that was turning increasingly ugly the Consul announced that the Senate would adjourn for the rest of the day.

Later...



Official Government Response from Semirhage

The Democratic Republic of Semirhage announces it's neutrality in this conflict, the Glorious Republic however wishes to ask of the nation of Hogsweat to lodge a complaint to the UN and request that an International Commision be formed to investigate any and all Scandavian States crimes. The most desirable state for any nation to be in, is one of peace, may peace return to both nations in the near future.

Praetor Sophia Moss
The Democratic Republic of Semirhage
Favorite Quote- “What an artist dies with me!”- Nero, Fifth Emperor of Rome

The aide walked down the corridoor. His short topped shoes showed a sign of Administration and make a racket as he stepped.
The Walls of the corridoor we looming over him, paintings glared and reflected off the perfect marbled flooring.

Guards stood at the various oak doors leading to various ministries and extensive meeting halls. Their hats stood high, their uniforms were ceremonial although their guns seemed to be unfitting, modern sub machine guns.

The aide was not on a random walk, this man mean't business. He was one of those young new types, that did everything to the book. He didn't own the respect and authoritory to cut corners.

He smartened up outside the big double doors, if it was indeed possible to anymore. He knocked and openned it, the ministr barely ahd time to greet before he blundered into his urgent message

"Veeshie Ministr, a communique from the remenants of Hogsweat.
It seems that an attack by Scandavian States has sparked a war of international proportions. A massive unofficial attack from Scandavian States and a Hogsweatian rogue sub on a revenge missile launch. The Retribution has been launched along with the Warrior"


"Goodness me Vassilei!! This is awful just awful!
I, I just can't have this, we are supposed to be unveiling the Revolutmos tomorrow. But it is Hogsweat, I mean if it were any other nation i wouldn't care, but...
For goodness sake we gave them a memorial, thats a huge award. We can't sit idle."

*Nikotika was sweating by now. Underneath his calm charistmatic exterior he was a stressful and nervous man.*

"Ok, what are our options. I mean consult the savet."

"Veeshie Ministr, I am but a desk boy, I can not enter certain rooms, let alone go to the savet!"

"You will do as i ask!"

--------Several Hours and much debate Later--------


To Comrade Commissar Chukiov of the Valiant Commonwealth of Hogsweat

The Glorious Federation of Kroblexskij IS a democracy, liberty, and freedom loving nation. We shall not let an attack against another so country go unheeded.
Although we may not support you in a militaristic way as we are currently commisioning an international space program.

We will condemn the actions and sanction the Scandavian States we can give aid and money to the Motherland.
Scandavian States is a terrorist nation, with human rights abuses and illegal conflicts.
We will not take immediate action but if any aircraft, ships or missiles pass over krob territory they will be challenged. The Battlecruiser Volna will be on standby.
We will take a strong Anti-Scandavian stance, and a strong Pro-Hogsweatian stance. Propoganda will be published glorifying The Motherland.

In your struggle against the imperialistic beasts, we wish you courage, luck skill and most of all, you shall be remembered no matter the outcome.

We Salute You.

Nikotika Mikhalkov
Kommunistika Federatsiya Krobleksi'
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As the regrettable conflict between two of our close allies rages on in its own form of brutality and endlessness, we would once again like to announce our reiteration of our neutrality in regards to the 'accusation of war crimes' made by the Hogsweatian government against Scandavian States. Though we are a democratic and peace-loving nation ourselves, it is to our best knowledge that taking a neutral position in the matter would not only be beneficial for the Omzian Republic, but both warring parties as well.

That said however, even though we would like to continue enacting our neutrality and status of non-belligerence in regards to the ongoing Hogsweat-Scandavian States war, we would not tolerate military threats and attacks, by an outside nation, against either Hogsweat or Scandavian States. Though we are aware that both of our allies are already attacking each other, foreign intervention in the matter that results an attack against one of the nations, or either nations, may result in Omzian military invention in a form that will harm neither Hogsweat nor Scandavian States.

Threats against either two of our allies will not be tolerated by the Omzian Forces. In our view, it is in everyone's best interests that the military conflict between Scandavian States and Hogsweat be left alone between the two aforementioned nations, in the hopes of global peace and prosperity.

Signed,
F.M. J. Hogan
Field Marshal Hogan, OFA
Omzian Forces High Command

[OOC: I Should note again, that civilians dead is probably EXTREMELY (up to 100x less) than what I've stated, but hey, it's propaganda.] official response coming shortly.

Temple of the Senate (Closed Session), Shino

The Consul of the Senate Brian Perry, Second-In-Command of Semirhage and Head of the Senate sat on the High Chair of the Consul as the debate on the war between Hogsweak and the Scandavian States raged on. "What happens if Hogsweat manages to destroy the Scandavian States completely?" Senator Purra said in a voice that was hoarse from hours of talking, "Remember all that stands between the Republic and an invasion from The Parthians is the Scandavian States! If they lose, WE lose."

Senator Bara then replyed with his voice dripping with distain, "What do you suggest we do, send military support? Our armed forces are no where NEAR ready for a military engagement, 25 years of pure pacifist policy will do that."
[ooc:] While this has little bearing on the topic, and is anyway unknown as it is Secret IC information, as I happen to be at war with Parthia right now (and they have launched a huge fleet to defend another one of the allies) we would probably stand by you if they attack, and even if we are unable their forces are divided, making it somewhat more difficult for them to remain with the support of their people. Just thought I'd mention it. *runs from thread to avoid OP's wrath*

"Wow.... what a bunch of assholes."

The news headlines were always interesting to read. Of course it was about human stupidity. That was always the order of the day in the news. All that useless butchery. The Great Leader Li just shook his head at the latest headline. Someone decided to snap up the now nuclear wasteland that was once called Hogsweat. They've been through enough, thought the Great Leader as he began to type up his response. Really, the people of Hogsweat just got through watching their friends, families, homes, possessions and everything they had in the world turn into vitriolic glass. They don't need this, nobody would need such a violent betrayal, especially from someone that they were supposed to be on friendly terms with.

Sometimes the world could be just a plain shitty place to live in. The Great Leader didn't know what the Scandavians were thinking when... no wait, he knew. It was Imperialism, the strong gobbling up the weak. And the Scandavians would use yet another justification from Social Darwinism to themselves seem righteous. They would be proud of themselves. Proud of what? Beating up on people that just suffered a major catastrophe? They might as well send forces to kill earthquake and flood victims as well.

And then there was Omz222. Smug rat bastards. Sitting by and smiling indulgently. Fucking hypocrites, thought the Great Leader. If they were actually peaceful and democratic, they would not condone one of their allies engaging in blatant imperialism. All they cared about was themselves, and perhaps making a few extra bucks off of war profiteering. After all, defense was a big business for the Omzian government.

The response to the recent Scandavian actions was almost complete. The Great Leader proofread it and then hit the send button.

~*~*~*~*~

Official Pwnage Government Statement Regarding the Situation Between Hogsweat and Scandavian States:

The government and people of Scandavian States are nothing but a bunch of rimjobbing cockmonkey assholes whose pathetic attempts at imperialism have been noted. The Scandavians, being the base, effete cowards that they are, obviously don't have the balls, intelligence or military resources to attack any other nation besides one that has just suffered a catastrophe of unimaginable proportions. The Scandavians have in this situation shown not just that they are cowardly, war mongering imperialists, but also have shown that they are peopled by scavengers. The Scandavians, too toothless to take on anyone with more than a rowboat and an AK-47, simply prey on the weak and pander to the strong, because they they are just that low, lower than even common terrorists and criminals, because at least terrorists and criminals are willing to go up against nations and organizations many times their size and are willing to take risks to achieve their goals.

What makes the Scandavians even more pathetic is that they must take pleasure in adding to the tragedies of the Hogsweatian people, a people that have endured more than enough suffering. I can honestly imagine the Scandavian King trying to drain his woefully inadequate dick in anticpation of further civilian deaths in Hogsweat. The Scandavian Royal Family can do the entire world a favor and hurl themselves into an incinerator. Please, spare the rest of us your idiocy and love of causing pain.

On another note, the government and people of Omz222 are a bunch of fucking hypocrites, perhaps even more spineless than the Scandavians. You claim to be a peace loving democracy, but you sit idly and condone the imperialistic actions of the Scandavian States, perhaps just so your arms industry can cut a higer profit margin selling the instruments of death to the Scandavians. Worse yet, you claim that Hogsweat is one of your allies. How can you say that, how dare you say that. What kind of soulless prick condemns the people of his ally to subjugation, misery and death? You are no more an ally to Hogsweat than Scandavian States. With an indulgent, shit eating grin, you give the Scandavians carte blanche to do whatever they feel like. But I expected just as much from profiteering roaches like you. If you really are what you said, you'd put your money where you mouth is.

To this end, MassPwnage offers its full moral, economic and military support to the nation of Hogsweat as needed*. We have faith that Hogsweat will resoundingly defeat Imperialistic Scandavian forces.

The Great Leader Li.

*ooc: I know this RP is closed, but it can't prevent me from saying that I will back Hogsweat. Also, my leader isn't a particularly intelligent, eloquent or tactful creature, and will personally attack his enemies, seeing as how that's basically all he knows how to do.

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Official Statement, Incorporated Sarzonian Government
Office of External Affairs

The Incorporated Sarzonian Government can only sit and watch, shaking its collective heads sadly at the level of rancor that has developed between two sets of staunch allies, both the Scandavian Imperium and the remnants of Hogsweat. We sincerely hoped for peace to reign in these times where violence seems to lurk around every street corner. Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case.

We would like to offer to host peace negotiations in our capital, Woodstock as a means of preventing a horrific loss of life. The Incorporated Sarzonian Government will continue to monitor this situation and offers to provide humanitarian aid for whomever needs it.

Mark Lorber
Senior Vice President and External Affairs Officer
Incorporated States of Sarzonia

[OOC: I realise what the intent behind this RP is and note that I'm not going to involve myself militarily (not that I would anyway because this is a war between two of my allies). This just sets the scene for me to be a neutral willing to negotiate should I be called upon to do so.]