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From: The Holy Empire of Naos Cole
To: All Military Arms Producers

The Holy Empire has extra funds in it's military budget to purchase military weaponary. Our Empire Army needs a update in all major military weaponary, including planes, ground vehicles, choppers and small arms. With this revamp we are willing to pay 2.5 billion dollars to get this done. Also we require some regular non-killing equipment. Also WMDs will be accepted and we expect to be supplied for a good five years after we accept this request.

Also, if any faulty equipment is given you shall be automatic enemy and you shall have to fear the Holy Empire of Naos Cole and the Gatesville Region.

-Department of Defense: Secretary Henry Burgess

OOC: Sorry to break this to you, but a quick check on NSTracker shows you have no military budget whatsoever

OOC: And you are too young to maintain WMDs. Sorry. BTW, what Tech are you? I would be happy to assist you when you have a strong military budget.

We at ADC would be interested, but we would like to know exactly how much of what you want, and furthermore how your nation - with no real defense budjet - plans to pay for your purchases.

Also, we do not sell WMD's, and they would cost too much for a 2.5 billion dollar millitary overhaul anyway.

To: All Arms Producers
From: The Holy Empire of Naos Cole

Our defence budget is not the concern, our dealing with outside nations have given us the money we need to get this military overhaul. Our nation, may not have a real defence budge yet it does have the funds it needs to get the weaponary. Please, do not contridict our nation, we have the funds to raise the money for a miltiary force.

Department of Defense: Secretary Henry Burgess

Ok, than all is well on that front. We would just like to know how many guns, tanks, airplanes, etc. you want so we can line up the best possible force to sell you.

With our funds, what would you recommend? Our force is trained well, and is use to handling all different weaponary from M1s to M-16s. Technology were are there but a major armed force would use what kind small arm? As you know we're new so we need your help to decide.

Well seeing as you are in an anti-UN region, I will supply you weaponry at our cheapest expense. I am making a new storefront, so I will supply you with good weapons. You name what you need and I will sell it.

Technology were are there but a major armed force would use what kind small arm? As you know we're new so we need this help to decide.
OOC: what do you mean by this?

OOC: what do you mean by this?

OCC: AK-47 or M-16. A Desert Eagle or Berretta, those sort of things. Our King demands we have the best but our budget shows otherwise, and we are willing to take any weapon we can get that will be able to be cheap and resourceful

OOC: And you are too young to maintain WMDs. Sorry. BTW, what Tech are you? I would be happy to assist you when you have a strong military budget.

People don't have a good idea of national capabilites in this game. Isreal had 5 million people in the 1980s when it made nukes, and it also built aircraft and ships. Lay off on thinking that small nations are worthless.

YarenZero is willing to sell any surpluss weapons as well as personell to train soldiers.

We are working on a storefront, and we shall post it as soon as it is done.

We stock advanced members of the AK faimely of weapons, as well as the XM8 weapon system (which can be modified using modular parts for use as an assult rife, sniper rifle, light machene gun or handgun) XM8 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/XM8-Poster.jpg)

As for tanks, with your budjet we would recomend the M1A2 Abrams if you want to deploy any number of tanks, although these are not top of the line by any means.

For aircraft, we would like to recomend our F/A-1 Wasp, which is relatively inexpencive (relative to top of the line stuff like the Blackhunter or DMG's Guardian Angel), can be used in fighter or light bomber roles, can go faster than Mach 2 and can be launched from carriers.

We would still like to know how many guns you want, as that will dictate how many tanks and airplanes you can field.

Official Statement From the Tech-Com Corporation
"We welcome you to the world, we offer you the following weapons in order to jumpstart your ground forces. These should be sufficient to get you started... they may be a little pricy though.

MBT-66: This State-of-the-Art Main Battle Tank has 37% more armor than a M1A2 Abrams, yet moves at the same speed. The reason for this is instead of using the Abrams Steel-DPU Advanced Composite Armor, we use Titanium-DPU Advanced Composite Armor. Titanium is 40% stronger than steel yet lighter. The MBT-66 armament consists of one 140mm ETC Cannon, one 7.62mm co-axial machinegun, and one top mounted 12.7mm(.50 Caliber) machinegun. It has all the electronics you would find on a M1A2 SEP(Special-Electronics Package). Its gun is capable of firing HEAT(anti-APC/IFV/LBT), SABOT(Anti-MBT), and HE-FRAG(Anti-Infantry) shells. Cost:10 million USD per tank

APC-45:This Armored Personnel Carrier is capable of carrying 10 men inside. It has a fully rotatable turret armed with two 23mm rapid firing FLAK guns. These guns are also effective against infantry and unarmored veichles. 3 million per APC.

M-100 Assault Rifle:This rifle fires about 100 meters more then the AK-74, 10 more Rounds Per Minute, and has a slightly larger clip(34 instead of 30). It utilises 6.5mm rounds and can come with either a gunsight or laser scope. Fires in semi-auto, auto, and burst. Cost:1200 USD per gun.

MDM-1 Anti-Tank Rocket Launcher:Has the same effective range as the M-100 Assualt Rifle and can be fired inside buildings. Unguided, lightweight, portable, and reloadable. Fire from above or behind the tank for maximum penetration. 2400 per launcher.

MDM-4 Surface-Air Missile: Is capable of effectively targeting all types of aircraft, Cruise Missiles, and Short Range Ballistic Missiles(like the SCUD) at all levels of height. A battery of them comes with Laser-Guided, IR Guided, and Radar-Guided Missiles, the first two are for targetting low-mid flying viechles, the latter targets mid-high flying veichles. A battery also comes with a specialised high powered radar array capable of detecting and targetting most Low Signature(read:Stealth) aircraft. A battery usually consists of 6 of these fine weapons. The MDM-4 is even capable of targetting large bombs(such as a FAE or MOAB), though only the laser guided missiles are capable of doing this. The MDM-4 is a stationary weapon that must be disassembled to move and assembled to fire. The launcher holds 6 missiles(radar-guided) or 12 missiles(IR and Laser-Guided). A single radar array can guide a battery of MDM-4s. The total cost for a Launcher WITH missiles costs about 21 million USD per launcher. The radar array costs 10 million USD.

M-1 Tunguska RT Mobile Anti Aircraft System: This is a modified Tunguska Mobile Anti-Aircraft Gun/Missile System. Instead of firing 8 SA-19 Missiles, it fires 8 QMSAM(Quick Manueverable Surface-Air Missiles)-10 and -20 missiles. These missiles move at Mach 5 and are either Laser(-10 version) or IR (-20 version) guided. Both versions have a 95% success rate against low-flying aircraft and cruise missiles. This will cost 12 million USD per launcher WITH the missiles.

LRASM(Long Range Anti-Surface Missile)-50: This is NOT a cruise missile but instead a long range missile effective against ships, bunkers, and structures(effectiveness against target type depends on warhead). There are two versions, a air launched one and a surface launched one, the former haveing a slightly shorter range of 110 miles instead of 115 miles. There are 4 warheads, deep penetration, anti-structure, anti-ship, and chemical delivery(the last warhead is also capable of carrying cluster bomblets). The missile moves above mach-1 and is a surface skimmer making it difficult to hit with CIWS. It costs 90,000 USD per missile.

Training in above equipment:Each instructor will cost 700,000 American Dollars

We hope these products will fit your needs well. Please contact us soon.

PS:We prefer that you have a place to deliver these weapons."

End Message

People don't have a good idea of national capabilites in this game. Isreal had 5 million people in the 1980s when it made nukes, and it also built aircraft and ships. Lay off on thinking that small nations are worthless.
No need to argue. I don't think they are worthless at all, it's just that NS usually had nations over, I think 200 million, that were able to maintain WMDs.

We stock advanced members of the AK faimely of weapons, as well as the XM8 weapon system (which can be modified using modular parts for use as an assult rife, sniper rifle, light machene gun or handgun) XM8 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/XM8-Poster.jpg)

As for tanks, with your budjet we would recomend the M1A2 Abrams if you want to deploy any number of tanks, although these are not top of the line by any means.

For aircraft, we would like to recomend our F/A-1 Wasp, which is relatively inexpencive (relative to top of the line stuff like the Blackhunter or DMG's Guardian Angel), can be used in fighter or light bomber roles, can go faster than Mach 2 and can be launched from carriers.

We would still like to know how many guns you want, as that will dictate how many tanks and airplanes you can field.

Before I answer your question about the Fighters and Tanks, I want ask; If I want 30000 XM8s, along with two crates of ammo each, how much would that cost? Now to answer your tank question, we can handle over two hundred tanks and three hundred aircraft at the moment.

Naos: I have made part of the storefront. Check for The Helghan Empire Storefront (re-created). But you will be dissapointed, because I only have the Sidearms section finished. But I am working on the rifles now, you may buy after I post discounts because I have some for nations of you size.

Before I answer your question about the Fighters and Tanks, I want ask; If I want 30000 XM8s, along with two crates of ammo each, how much would that cost? Now to answer your tank question, we can handle over two hundred tanks and three hundred aircraft at the moment.

The XM8's alone would cost 36 Million USD. We're not sure how much a "crate" of ammo would be, but a 30 round cartage costs 100 USD and a 100 round (for the light machine gun mode) cartage costs 220 USD. How many bullets do you want for each gun? It will probably be easier to calculate it that way.


OOC: A link to my storefront is in my sig

If you want to take a look at a storefront:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409787

Would you like to still veiw my new storefront Naos?

If you want to take a look at a storefront:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409787
OOC: Hey! You have my Helghast uniforms! Except in a different name. You have no authorization to make them because it's one-of-a-kind Helghast manufactured suit and you can't copy them!

OOC: Hey! You have my Helghast uniforms! Except in a different name. You have no authorization to make them because it's one-of-a-kind Helghast manufactured suit and you can't copy them!

[OOC: Is this sarcasm? Sorry, I can't tell through the forums, I don't mean to sound cold.]

Would you like to still veiw my new storefront Naos?

I would very much like to see that.

Also Axinon, 100 USDs for one 30 round magazine and 220 USDs for a drum of 100 arounds, that is alittle much don't you think? A Regular Ak-47 is just as reliable and efficient.

PROHT has this great storefront (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=446316)for rapidly developing countries with small allotments in their defense budget.

Man portable UAVs $1,000 each

will rifit your APCs into tanks for $1,000 to $3,000 each
Sells inexpensive, and nearly expendale artillery.

With Naval Mines like ours, large expensive navies are obsolete.

We Sell limited capability tactical stealth bombers, STOL capable.

And (Thermobaric) hand grenades that can destroy buildings.
(A sight to behold, must find that video clip)

Army:
Well, one could get M998s and 5 ton trucks at a fair price at Leafanistani Intergrated Storefront, and it supplies BMP-2s at a great price.

One could also just purchase an M998 and outfit it with a turret and you'd have an armored car capabal of downing tanks for less than 1 milloin.

Small arms AT rockets and Mortars are best at Roman Republic.

Be sure to get some THGs, they work wonders in the urban sprawl!

If you need to expand your gun arsenal, stop by at PROHT storefront and have them multiply the number of guns you have by manyfold. (Includes artillery)

Uber artillery and floatplanes are currently a hard find.

And for short range drones, the MMP-1 is the best starter set for counter artillary duels.

DMG sells decent tanks

Navy:
Trouble defending the coast? Get a few Leafanistani Tango class subs ask for them to outfit them with gas turbines, and then buy some of my CAPTOR mines. FSCTs from PROHT and some of Kriezimmer's Principe IIIs.

Landing parties? HLLCACs and some support ships from Roman would do swell. Don't forget carriers, my preferance is for small and fast, with good surviveability. So the Indomitable serves me well.

Air:
some FMX-6s should cover your covert strikes sufficiently.
But you'll want some sort of escort just in case. Pick something EMP tolerant, old Russian planes would do fine, Mig-25, and 29 will do well. and then one would want high capacity fighter bombers and startegic bombers.

The B-52 will do fine, some take the russian equivilant, that is OK too.

Avoid the fancy FBW planes and RP your planes with EMP pods\bombs, and you'll do alright. Cirrently working on that bit.

WMD:
Avoid nukes, unless you must use them, don't buy any. limit youself to CBW if at all, and augment thast with thermobaric warheads, your enimies moral will 'thank' you for it, for nukes kill quick, Thermoes are painfully deadly.

I would very much like to see that.
OK. Just so you know, it's not finished, but I keep working on it now and then. But I have good prices. And first buyer gets a discount on packages.

The Helghan Empire Storefront (re-created) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9888469#post9888469)