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It's quite simple.


No one else has any way of knowing what warheads are on your ICBMs. Therefore they have no choice but to assume ANY ICBM launch is a nuclear launch.

Yeah that about sums it up. And they have to be more accurate too. Falling within 100m of the target with a conventional warhead needs to have a lot of power behind it to destroy the target. With a nuclear warhead, 100m doesn't mean squat.

It's quite simple.


No one else has any way of knowing what warheads are on your ICBMs. Therefore they have no choice but to assume ANY ICBM launch is a nuclear launch.

Brilliant.

It's quite simple.


No one else has any way of knowing what warheads are on your ICBMs. Therefore they have no choice but to assume ANY ICBM launch is a nuclear launch.

If this is in response to my ICBM's launched against your nation that contained no nuclear warheads, or anything for that matter... well you just discovered the reason I launched them. To cause panic.

Hmm who ever would have guessed people would assume them to be nukes. Glad you could tell us that.

If this is in response to my ICBM's launched against your nation that contained no nuclear warheads, or anything for that matter... well you just discovered the reason I launched them. To cause panic.

No its because i launched ICBM's

Didn't multitudes of people already got carpetnuked for launching conventional ICBMs at others' capitals?

Didn't multitudes of people already got carpetnuked for launching conventional ICBMs at others' capitals?

Yes it has happened.

Hmm who ever would have guessed people would assume them to be nukes. Glad you could tell us that.It's a fair assumption to make because 1) there's no way for anyone to know that the slew of ICBMs you just launched are conventionally armed and 2) even if you *told* someone they were conventional, why would a country believe you if you launched them at them?

The biggest problem with launching conventional ICBMs is that there's a *reasonable* assumption that they're armed with nuclear weapons, and that invites a retaliatory strike with nuclear-armed ICBMs. And considering the dogpiling nature of NS, it's not just the nation you launched them against that would strike, a bunch of allies would get pissed off at you and launch their own.

And don't even get me started on the whole "my anti-ICBM defence is teh 1337." Their effectiveness is only theoretical at best and up for debate otherwise. Even if you had a SDI system that was 99.9 percent effective, someone launching 300,000 ICBMs is going to get a boatload through. And ICBMs aren't just one warhead with one weapon. They can carry THOUSANDS of weapons, so if even one ICBM lands with a nuclear warhead, you've got severe damage. If the expected thousands land, you've just become glass.

It's a fair assumption to make because 1) there's no way for anyone to know that the slew of ICBMs you just launched are conventionally armed and 2) even if you *told* someone they were conventional, why would a country believe you if you launched them at them?

The biggest problem with launching conventional ICBMs is that there's a *reasonable* assumption that they're armed with nuclear weapons, and that invites a retaliatory strike with nuclear-armed ICBMs. And considering the dogpiling nature of NS, it's not just the nation you launched them against that would strike, a bunch of allies would get pissed off at you and launch their own.

And don't even get me started on the whole "my anti-ICBM defence is teh 1337." Their effectiveness is only theoretical at best and up for debate otherwise. Even if you had a SDI system that was 99.9 percent effective, someone launching 300,000 ICBMs is going to get a boatload through. And ICBMs aren't just one warhead with one weapon. They can carry THOUSANDS of weapons, so if even one ICBM lands with a nuclear warhead, you've got severe damage. If the expected thousands land, you've just become glass.

I know - i was being sarcastic. But perhaps axis nova should read that last part

On the same hand, that goes for enemy bombers and cruise missiles as well.

On the same hand, that goes for enemy bombers and cruise missiles as well.
No, because bombers and cruise missiles are so proliferated and employed as conventional weapons it isn't funny. ICBMs on the other hand, have been widely established as a nuclear delivery platform, and considering how most of the times they are used as such it is completely safe to assume that they are nuclear.

In a gamble it is far safer to assume that the ICBMs attacking you are nuclear than to assume that the bombers are nuclear.

No, because bombers and cruise missiles are so proliferated and employed as conventional weapons it isn't funny. ICBMs on the other hand, have been widely established as a nuclear delivery platform, and considering how most of the times they are used as such it is completely safe to assume that they are nuclear.

In a gamble it is far safer to assume that the ICBMs attacking you are nuclear than to assume that the bombers are nuclear.

Since when should you gamble with the safety of a nation?

You want to blow them out of the sky anyways.

Since when should you gamble with the safety of a nation?
The point is that no matter what you do, in NS the ICBMs will be assumed as nuclear anyways. Since ICBMs tend to have a mediocre accuracy for the delivery of conventional warheads, not mentioning its vulnerability to space-based weapons in its boost stage, why even use them and risk having your nation condemned to death when you have other alternatives?

Now, to talk about gamble - why would you gamble with the safety of your nation by risking being carpetnuked for a conventional attack when there are clearly other alternatives?

The logic is pretty simple.

Now, to talk about gamble - why would you gamble with the safety of your nation by risking being carpetnuked for a conventional attack when there are clearly other alternatives?


Yea good point, I dont think I made the brightest move. Out of simple luck though WMD's are forbidden in our RP, so I am safe from my stupid mistake. :cool: Just kidding... I think Axis Nova will be the first and last person I use "fake" ICBM's on.

It's quite simple.


No one else has any way of knowing what warheads are on your ICBMs. Therefore they have no choice but to assume ANY ICBM launch is a nuclear launch.
...didnt everyone already know this...?