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Dust filled the air as the massive covers of the Imperial Missile silo’s slide apart for the first time in years. Torontia had fallen at the hands of the Empire mere hours ago, but they had not made a good enough example for Kraven’s corporate slaves.
Axis Nova’s anti-orbital attack however proved them to be worthy of filling Torontia’s shoes.

It was ironic though. Axis Nova’s attacks had destroyed the Empire’s satellites, so no longer could the missiles be targeted with pinpoint accuracy against military targets. No, now they would have to be fired at well know targets – the very hearts of their major cities.

The massive 34 metre ICBM’s sat ready, smoke pouring out from underneath in anticipation of the launch as the sun rose slowly across the Empire, marking the beginnings of a day of death.

Missile Command Bunker

The base commander entered the control room, still fixing up his uniform after only just getting dressed.
Four other soldiers sat around the room working on various computers.

“Is everything set?”
“Yes Sir, targets are designated and locked”
“Very well.”

The commander looked out over the nearest launch site, some few hundred metres away.

“May our allies forgive us”, he said, his gaze still fixed on the prepared missile.

“Commence primary ignition”
“Ignition armed, requesting verification”
“Verification: 9426-5670-0225”
“System’s armed. Launch commencing”

Across the Empire, the giant missiles rose out of their armoured holes, catapulting themselves into the air. It would take several minutes for the missiles to level off but when they did they would be in earth’s orbit.
Their flight paths would follow the earths orbit, so predicting their targets was impossible until the moment they fell from the sky, diving towards their objectives. Once they did, it would be too late, and their multiple high incendiary phosphorus warheads would already be exploding, covering entire cities with flame and sucking the very oxygen from the surrounding air.

OOC: 50 missiles are being launch – 5 at each of your 10 largest cities.

OOC: Well, Kraven did say no WMDs... but I'll humor you, for what good it will do you. Note that my SDI system people have no way of knowing whether an ICBM is nuclear armed or not...

As the missiles rise out of the atmosphere, they are immediately detected. An X-ray laser bomb detonates in the path of the missiles from each ICBM field, wiping out 99% of the missiles from each field in a massive display of pyrotechnics as the nuclear-pumped X-ray lasers scour the skies. The stragglers are picked off by free-electron lasers, reducing the remainder of Yallak's attack to a grand and pointless light show.

In return, the mass drivers on the orbital resource satellites power up, and 20 3-ton projectiles are accelerated silently out into space, on trajectories that would take them into the atmosphere.

The first five are targeted on Yallka's five biggest ports. The second five are targeted on Yallak's five biggest airbases. The third five are targeted at hydroelectric dams and nuclear power plants. The final five are targeted at major rail junctions.

The kinetic impact of such masses travelling at orbital velocities would be devastating...

The Imperial Defence Network’s orbital surveillance dishes immediately picked up the return projectiles as they headed towards Yallak.

As they fell through the atmosphere, they were tracked and the few weapons were quickly destroyed by the ground based SDI lasers.

The Imperial Defence Network’s orbital surveillance dishes immediately picked up the return projectiles as they headed towards Yallak.

As they fell through the atmosphere, they were tracked and the few weapons were quickly destroyed by the ground based SDI lasers.

OOC: Ah ah ah, not so fast. A laser can blow up a missile because a missile is a thin skin mostly filled with fuel. A two ton solid metal slug is a different matter entirely: all a laser will do is heat it up some, and that's a LOT of mass to heat.

Best possible result, if we assume your lasers are unrealistically (as in, more than Star Wars) powerful, is that you'll slice the projectiles into smaller pieces: which will continue to fall.

OOC: Ah ah ah, not so fast. A laser can blow up a missile because a missile is a thin skin mostly filled with fuel. A two ton solid metal slug is a different matter entirely: all a laser will do is heat it up some, and that's a LOT of mass to heat.

Best possible result, if we assume your lasers are unrealistically (as in, more than Star Wars) powerful, is that you'll slice the projectiles into smaller pieces: which will continue to fall.

But they wouldn't be accurate. And to add to that, are you so sure they will even hit the target even if they were in one piece? Godrods are notoriously inaccurate. They could hit the inland city, or they could splash into the ocean and make a big wave. In return, he can send bombers and knock out your mass drivers, ala Ace Combat 5.

[OOC: Fire missiles instead. They will probably fragment the slugs, but they will also (and more importantly) knock them off course such that over the considerable distance they have to travel from the atmosphere to the ground they will be knocked far off course. Better still, target them such that they will be knocked into the sea (they are travelling towards coastal installations afterall.

Anyway, in my opinion this RP is a waste of time, because Axis Nova will RP destroying anything whatsoever that you fire at him, then expect you to take losses from everything he does and complain if you also RP killing everything he launches.

And massive waves... well no. The tsunami in Asia was caused by a force equivalent to a very large number of nuclear bombs. A falling 2 tonne weight on the other hand isnt going to be able to move millions - bilions of tonnes of water.]

~Accidently hit edit, rather than quote. My apologies. ~ Euro

Anyway, in my opinion this RP is a waste of time, because Axis Nova will RP destroying anything whatsoever that you fire at him, then expect you to take losses from everything he does and complain if you also RP killing everything he launches.


If you don't like the RP, don't post in it. It's their decision to roleplay with Axis Nova, and this sort of input really isn't needed. There's constructive criticism, then there's just plain attacking Axis Nova. I suggest that you stick with the first one.

[OOC: Giving people RP advice seems perfectly above board to me, but whatever.]

[OOC: Giving people RP advice seems perfectly above board to me, but whatever.][OOC: You probably could have done that via TG. That way, you're not trolling the thread and attacking Axis Nova.]

[OOC: Fire missiles instead. They will probably fragment the slugs, but they will also (and more importantly) knock them off course such that over the considerable distance they have to travel from the atmosphere to the ground they will be knocked far off course. Better still, target them such that they will be knocked into the sea (they are travelling towards coastal installations afterall.

Anyway, in my opinion this RP is a waste of time, because Axis Nova will RP destroying anything whatsoever that you fire at him, then expect you to take losses from everything he does and complain if you also RP killing everything he launches.

Pretty much what i assumed - this was to test how he would respond to attacks against him - hence why only 50 missiles. He's already ignored legit attacks from others in the Kraven war.

Missiles war to come later if needed.

OOC: Ah ah ah, not so fast. A laser can blow up a missile because a missile is a thin skin mostly filled with fuel. A two ton solid metal slug is a different matter entirely: all a laser will do is heat it up some, and that's a LOT of mass to heat.

Best possible result, if we assume your lasers are unrealistically (as in, more than Star Wars) powerful, is that you'll slice the projectiles into smaller pieces: which will continue to fall.

unrealistic?? like x-ray bombs instantly blowing up over my nation.
The lasers are powered by massive supercapacitors (dicharging unbelievable amounts of energy very quickly). They would easily melt the projectiles (which are already heating up by falling rapidly through the atmosphere), and any fragments would be taken out by missile emplacements once they had fallen within range.

unrealistic?? like x-ray bombs instantly blowing up over my nation.
The lasers are powered by massive supercapacitors (dicharging unbelievable amounts of energy very quickly). They would easily melt the projectiles (which are already heating up by falling rapidly through the atmosphere), and any fragments would be taken out by missile emplacements once they had fallen within range.

I do have them completely surrounding the Earth. They wouldn't be much use as an SDI system otherwise-- the best time to whack missiles is in the boost phase. I'll accept your super-lasers for the moment, and suggest we stop with the back and forth ortillery crap and stick to satellite/anti-satellite stuff-- there are too many arguments over tech and I just want to move this along anyways. This whole satellite thing was supposed to be a preliminary to the main war, not a secondary war in and of itself.

If you're refering to Velkya's laser, I'm ignoring THAT because a surface to surface laser isn't possible at those power levels. You'd lose too much energy punching out of the atmosphere, then back in again, plus there'd be all the clouds or whatever in the way that would diffract the beam even further.

edit: As a note, the bombs are useless against surface targets, so you have nothing to worry about in that department. Also nothing's stopping you from trying to attack the BOMBS, though they are pretty cheap to make (they're mostly manufactured on my natural resource sats), so there are just scads of the little suckers.

I'll accept your super-lasers for the moment, and suggest we stop with the back and forth ortillery crap.

Theres nothing used in my defences that isn't available today but agreed.

If you're refering to Velkya's laser, I'm ignoring THAT

Nope. Didn't mean them at all.

I do have them completely surrounding the Earth. They wouldn't be much use as an SDI system otherwise-- the best time to whack missiles is in the boost phase. I'll accept your super-lasers for the moment, and suggest we stop with the back and forth ortillery crap and stick to satellite/anti-satellite stuff-- there are too many arguments over tech and I just want to move this along anyways. This whole satellite thing was supposed to be a preliminary to the main war, not a secondary war in and of itself.

If you're refering to Velkya's laser, I'm ignoring THAT because a surface to surface laser isn't possible at those power levels. You'd lose too much energy punching out of the atmosphere, then back in again, plus there'd be all the clouds or whatever in the way that would diffract the beam even further.

edit: As a note, the bombs are useless against surface targets, so you have nothing to worry about in that department. Also nothing's stopping you from trying to attack the BOMBS, though they are pretty cheap to make (they're mostly manufactured on my natural resource sats), so there are just scads of the little suckers.

OOC: I have surface to surface lasers?

I have small air to air point defense lasers for my Arkbirds (for taking out SAMs) and space to space for intercepting enemy ASAT missiles, but that's it.