NationStates Jolt Archive

*a suprisingly large man slowly walks into the spotlight set on the stage of world affairs. He looks out over the multitudes of nations, clearly blinded by the high power halogen beams of the lights. He flips on the microphone, which is the single object, besides himself, standing on the stage and prepares himself to speak...*

Ladies and Gentlemen of the World. It is my purpose to inform you of the Arrival of The United Socialist States of Stoddenia. *pauses for applause, but hearing silence, he continues* We are the solitary occupant of the region refered to as "Revolutionary Socialism". We eagerly await company. We are radically egalitarian democracy, and seek those of like minds. Thank you.

Representative of the United Socialist States of Stoddenia

*the man leaves the spotlight and walks deliberately off the stage*

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From: The New Order Republic of Torontia

To: Stoddenia

Yet again our planet is made dirty by another horde of communist gangsters taking over a nation!

Your evil nation, a land of perverts and whores, is living proof of the global communist conspiracy, living proof that your doing the dirty work of your pimp, Satan!

Torontia will NOT tolerate the existence of your nation!

You have until your next reply to my ultimatum, to hand over the soverignty of your nation to the New Order Republic of Torontia, upon which we will wipe out all communist gangsters in your lands and your people shall live under the utopia that is the New Order.

FAILURE TO HAND YOUR NATION OVER TO TORONTIA WILL RESULT IN A FULL SCALE TORONTIAN MILITARY INVASION OF YOUR NATION AND THE EXTERMINATION OF YOUR PEOPLE!

President for Life of the New Order Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader Tanakis

(OOC)

I know I said Ill await your reply before I invade, but don't be smart thinking that by not responding Im going to forget about you!

If you don't reply soon, My troops will be in YOUR capital city VERY soon!

*Message from the Grand Guard of Stoddenia*

In Re: Threat from Torontia

We are in the process of establishing our entire population into an armed camp. And when we are admitted into the UN, hopefully very soon, we will sponsor a resolution condemning your threats.

In the meanwhile, We have taken the innitiative to arm all of our citizens to respond to the threat from the New Order, and will fight to the last man and woman, and yes, even Child and Oatmeal to protect our utopian way of life from the aggressors. We also call on all interested peoples of the world to stand with Stoddenia to repell this threat. We will welcome sending of advisors and full fledged troops, and will certainly compensate any nation that helps our nation repell this threat.

The President of the United Socialist States of Stoddenia.

From: The New Order Republic of Torontia

To: Stoddenia

This must be some kind of poor attempt at a joke!

Torontia is NOT a UN member, as the UN is the global whorehouse of communist gangsterism and democratic idiocy!

Nations which are NOT UN members are NOT affected by ANY UN resolutions!

As for the rest of your 'statement', your foolish people must have a deathwish as you seek to throw your children and women into the firing range of the battle hardend, ruthless, killing machine that is the Torontian Army!

Torontia has a HUGE stockpile of chemical weapons, so if you want to play 'Che Guevara' with me and use rebels to pin me down in the forests, good luck, as I will just gas your entire nation before even one Torontian soldier will step foot in your Hellhole nation.

Torontia has 521 MILLION people, you 5 million.

Torontias Armed Forces are 24 MILLION strong, even if EVERY single one of your people were armed, your nation is only 5 million strong, not to mention most of them will just be CIVLIANS WITH GUNS!

I could just send in 6 million troops, backed up with my airforce and navy, they would take your nation on ONE DAY!

Im going to be kind and compassionate here, you have ONE more chance to reconisder my ultimatum.

Intergrate peacefully with Torontia, where your people will live under the utopian New Order, or be wiped out as a people and a nation.

President for Life of the New Order Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader Tanakis

Government Message

The People's Republic of New Sans would like to interject for a moment here. We have a population of over a billion and strongly suggest that this unwarrented agression is stopped. There is no need for this war and we will not stand for it. Not to mention with the ammount of fighting the nation of Torontia is dealing with in Xirium it would be unwise to spread their forces so thin lest they leave themselves undefended.

High Councilman Mĕane
The People's Republic of New Sans

Message from the Amestrian Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Our nation would be willing to send military forces to protect your nation, however only if certain conditions are met.

1. As Stoddenia has no military or police forces we request that it submit to a protectorate under the State of Amestria (your internal affairs will remain untouched).

2. You agree to the principle of International Common Law.

3. You sign a Free Trade Agreement with Amestria

If these conditions are met, we would be willing to send the military forces required for the defense of your nation.

(OOC: I have over a billion people as well.)

Well, we certainly cannot. Being a Socialist State, our populace is also issued gas masks, has been NBC trained and can withstand any chemical weapon attacks. Our country will institute a scorched earth policy to wipe out whatever infrastructure we possess, and when you invade, the only sign of our people that you will see will be your soldiers falling one by one, until it is too much for you to take. Additionally, since our economy is virtually non-existant, our people are not adverse to living with very little, and acquiring their food resources from the land. We can last an infinite time in the hills of Stoddenia, and while your soldiers disappear, we will grow stronger.

I will present you a counter offer. Do not invade and we will allow your military to continue to live. Send us a diplomat and we will discuss things like civilized people. But know this: We do not take your threats seriously, because 1) The above reasons, and 2) Since we just came into being yesterday, there is no way in hell you could get your soldiers to a part of the world that up until a couple hours ago you did not even know existed in such a short time and 3) We have not divulged our location to anyone, so we do not appear on any maps. Sorry. Your invasion is logistically impossible.

Threaten all you will. A war will only turn out beneficial for us, and prove what the communists claim, that the vulgar individualists in the world only exist to squash the experiments of the people. How well do you think this will play to other socialists? You would merely confirm our theory...

Send your diplomats. Leave your generals at home. Because if they step foot in our nation, they will never elave.

Stoddenia

Official Government Response from the Confederacy of Economic Associates

While the our government may not agree with the ideologies of Stoddenia we can not allow unchecked aggression to happen in the international community. Just because a nation has different ideologies does not mean you have a blank check to go to war. This type of attitude leads to prolonged conflicts which have lasting effects on the people who live there as well as the global economy. With this in mind the Confederacy of Economic Associates would like to stand by its ally, the nation of New Sans, in a declaration stating you stop these hostilities at once.

John Kirkland-Foreign Minister for the Confederacy of Economic Associates

To Amestria:

We are prepared to agree to your terms. With the exception of the "protectorate" status. You must understand that this is not in our interests. We cannot surrender our sovereignty in this fashion. We have no need of a police force, because we have no crime. And we were threatened within hours of our announcement of existence, but we have successfully armed our citizenry before hand in such an event. But all other terms are in accordance with our own Popular interests.

As I told the aggressor, we are perfectly capable of defending our soil. But this is an opportunity for democratic, socialist and Communist Nations to stand by their principles and assist in the defense of a small, new, and absolutely innocuous nation. We cannot surrender our sovereignty by becoming a protectorate, but we can agree to International Law (we are planning to anyhow, as we have applied to the UN) and we can agree to a trade agreement, immediately (since we do not have the bothersome practice of approval of treaties through a bureaucratic institution)

We appreciate your consideration,
The President of Stoddenia

Stoddenia: check your other thread

-A Public Communiqué from the Central Directorate of the United Socialist States of Schultaria Prime


"Let it be known that on this day, 1 Vokemvol 116 SDC, the National Assembly, Constitutional Court, and Central Directorate of Schultaria Prime officially recognizes the establishment of the Nation of Stoddenia as a legitimate government under direct control, and responsible to, the multitudes of citizenry which it is sworn to protect. As such, let it also be known that since the Nation of Stoddenia is considered to be a state that shares the same qualities of open egalitarianism, civil equality, and transparent governance as Schultaria Prime, the USSSP would be honored to establish a far more permanent method of diplomacy than the fragile accords offered only by casual contact.

Should any illegal or rogue state attempt to intercede on the affairs of this government, one that has been categorized as working under and for the best interests of the citizens it represents, it would be the impetus of the Schultarian Government, its Defense Forces, and The State Industries of Schultaria Prime - Designwerks to provide essential assistance to Stoddenia in ardent defense of its fledgling statehood. No nation should ever have to fear callus, underhanded, and utterly naked acts of imperial aggression solely for personal profit at the expense of so many lives. Therefore, as an act of good graces to the Nation of Stoddenia, we extend our hands in friendship not only as Schultarians or as members of the socially progressive region of Primex, but as fellow egalitarians struggling to bring an equal voice to every citizen."

Welcome to the world, may your peoples' tenure live among some of the greatest cultures and societies in human history,

-Central Director Schultz, Director Joan Covey, Director Sarnow Haarvekord
-The Triumvirate Directorship of the United Socialist States of Schultaria Prime

Many thanks to the Republics of New Sans and the Economic Associates. When this conflict is peacably resolved, we should get together and discuss matters of state with one another. I am sure we will find common interests on which to build foundations for future cooperation.

The President of Stoddenia

To Amestria:

We are prepared to agree to your terms. With the exception of the "protectorate" status. You must understand that this is not in our interests. We cannot surrender our sovereignty in this fashion. We have no need of a police force, because we have no crime. And we were threatened within hours of our announcement of existence, but we have successfully armed our citizenry before hand in such an event. But all other terms are in accordance with our own Popular interests.

As I told the aggressor, we are perfectly capable of defending our soil. But this is an opportunity for democratic, socialist and Communist Nations to stand by their principles and assist in the defense of a small, new, and absolutely innocuous nation. We cannot surrender our sovereignty by becoming a protectorate, but we can agree to International Law (we are planning to anyhow, as we have applied to the UN) and we can agree to a trade agreement, immediately (since we do not have the bothersome practice of approval of treaties through a bureaucratic institution)

We appreciate your consideration,
The President of Stoddenia

Message from the Amestrian Ministry of Foreign Affairs

We accept your amendments to our terms and shall dispatch 100,000 troops by sea immediately. Two carrier fleets shall also be sent.

From: The New Order Republic of Torontia

To: Stoddenia

This must be some kind of poor attempt at a joke!

Torontia is NOT a UN member, as the UN is the global whorehouse of communist gangsterism and democratic idiocy!

Nations which are NOT UN members are NOT affected by ANY UN resolutions!

As for the rest of your 'statement', your foolish people must have a deathwish as you seek to throw your children and women into the firing range of the battle hardend, ruthless, killing machine that is the Torontian Army!

Torontia has a HUGE stockpile of chemical weapons, so if you want to play 'Che Guevara' with me and use rebels to pin me down in the forests, good luck, as I will just gas your entire nation before even one Torontian soldier will step foot in your Hellhole nation.

Torontia has 521 MILLION people, you 5 million.

Torontias Armed Forces are 24 MILLION strong, even if EVERY single one of your people were armed, your nation is only 5 million strong, not to mention most of them will just be CIVLIANS WITH GUNS!

I could just send in 6 million troops, backed up with my airforce and navy, they would take your nation on ONE DAY!

Im going to be kind and compassionate here, you have ONE more chance to reconisder my ultimatum.

Intergrate peacefully with Torontia, where your people will live under the utopian New Order, or be wiped out as a people and a nation.

President for Life of the New Order Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader Tanakis

~Imperial Reply~

A twenty four million man army? Oh, we here in the Reich wonder what your army would do agaisnt are 32 Million man army. How you tiny nation of 521 Million would stack up against our 2.786 billion. Leave this nation alone, or we will make you.

Amestria, We welcome your fraternal offer with open arms. Feel free to advance your forces into Stoddenia, and we will offer them quarters and some food to suppliment your supplies. You will be joining the 3rd Infantry Division (Mechanized) and the 5th Armoured Division along with any required Air Force or Naval units of the Aequatio Forces.

Stoddenia

Official Government Communiqué
From: The Libertarian Concordance of Czardas
To: The New Order Republic of Torontia

The Concordqance is highly displeased with your blatant warmongering, imperialism, as well as recent threats of genocide and overt military and economic aid to nations committing genocide.

Torontia has a HUGE stockpile of chemical weapons, so if you want to play 'Che Guevara' with me and use rebels to pin me down in the forests, good luck, as I will just gas your entire nation before even one Torontian soldier will step foot in your Hellhole nation.
Attacking other nations with chemical weapons will lead to severe consequences for your nation. Launching nuclear or biological attacks will be similarly acted upon.

Torontia has 521 MILLION people, you 5 million. Torontias Armed Forces are 24 MILLION strong, even if EVERY single one of your people were armed, your nation is only 5 million strong, not to mention most of them will just be CIVLIANS WITH GUNS!Czardas has 1.415 billion citizens to your 521 million. Our armed forces can number up to 30 million in times of war with high public support, and if you attack Stoddenia, this war will have a high level of public support. That is thirty million well-trained, well-drilled, well-armed soldiers. In addition, we spend seven times more money on national defense than you do. Explain how exactly you expect to stand up to that. We can play the number game too.

I could just send in 6 million troops, backed up with my airforce and navy, they would take your nation on ONE DAY!I could send one-fifth of my air force to your nation and wipe it out entirely. You are not one to boast.

I'm going to be kind and compassionate here, you have ONE more chance to reconisder my ultimatum.

Intergrate peacefully with Torontia, where your people will live under the utopian New Order, or be wiped out as a people and a nation.
Kind and compassionate? Let us give YOU an ultimatum in this case. Stop this warmongering, imperialism, genocide, and human rights violations. Now. Otherwise, we shall put diplomatic and economic pressure on your nation. And we are sure that many others will join us. If you still refuse to stop, we shall go to war with you.

The Concordance cannot abide these violations of all that we hold dear. Consider yourself warned.

Also, President Tanakis, we urge you to use a less inflammatory tone when speaking diplomatically to other nations. Otherwise you will earn the enmity of many who would otherwise befriend you.

~Kari Alhoun, Czardaian Foreign Minister
"Libertas, Justitia, Honorum, Veritas"

To the Imperial Forces of Tocrowkia,

Many thanks for your fraternal solidarity with our fledgeling republic. It is rather odd that imperial and Nationalist Forces have stood up for our continued independence, while Socialists, for the most part (Amestria excepted) are nowhere to be found. Very Odd, but it is nonetheless appreciated. When this crisis is completed, our people and the people belonging to your ideology will have many new bridges than may be crossed as a result of this Crisis.

The President of Stoddenia

Czardas. Your interjection on our behalf is most welcomed and when this crisis is over, we will be happy to exchange diplomats with you and open up positive relationships with your government.

Czardas. Your interjection on our behalf is most welcomed and when this crisis is over, we will be happy to exchange diplomats with you and open up positive relationships with your government.
Greetings from the Concordance! We would also be glad to exchange embassies with you once this crisis is over. We have dealt with Torontia before. They are primarily a nation that bullies nations smaller than itself for carrying out policies they disagree with, threatening genocide, war, and other human rights abuses but balking when larger nations become involved. We urge you to take little note of them; one day somebody will become so angry with them that they will be destroyed, or their leadership forced to resign in favor of a more liberal and compassionate one.

~Kari Alhoun, Czardaian Foreign Minister

"Madam President, your on."

Whispered one of the aids. At her desk, Naomi Roderica, the president of THL nodded. With a deep breath, she began her speech:

"Good evening my fellow lesbians. It has come to my attention that a new recently formed nation, Stoddenia, has had their sovereignty threatened by the Imperialist state of Torontia. While they are socialists, and our nation is by and large capitalist, we will not sit idly by while a young nation is engulfed by a bully of a nation, a nation that is to afraid to face anybody else their own size, or even larger that. If Stoddenia allows us to, we will immediately deploy troops to their nation to protect them, and their freedom. Good night."

Greetings from the Concordance! We would also be glad to exchange embassies with you once this crisis is over. We have dealt with Torontia before. They are primarily a nation that bullies nations smaller than itself for carrying out policies they disagree with, threatening genocide, war, and other human rights abuses but balking when larger nations become involved. We urge you to take little note of them; one day somebody will become so angry with them that they will be destroyed, or their leadership forced to resign in favor of a more liberal and compassionate one.

~Kari Alhoun, Czardaian Foreign Minister

Torontia's times is at an end. As we speak the Empire knocks on their front door with hundreds of thousands of cruise missiles.

Soon, they will not be left to take note of.

Official Statement of the Omzian Republic
"Our survival depends on the eradication of the imperialist-aristocrat-expansionist threat." - Great Eternal President Hongaz Omazee

While the Omzian Democratic Republic would like to remain neutral on the matter as of right now for various reasons, it is at the same time our own view that a possible conflict involving the righteous nation of Stoddenia would be a potential destabilizing factor that would further extend the turmoil that is the warring world around us today. Thus, while we would once again reiterate our neutral and non-belligerent position and that we have no plans to offer any form of protection to Stoddenia as of right now, we would also like to voice our opposition to military aggression against the nation of Stoddenia.

If the imperialist-fascist pest known as the so-called "Torontia" decides to militarily take action against our fraternal socialist brother of Stoddenia in the form of illegal military action and acts of belligerence, they will be eradicated completely from the face of the world by the liberators of the Omzian Forces, under the ever-enduring guidance of our Great Eternal President and Supreme Marshal, Comrade Hongaz Omazee.

Signed,
FM J. Hogan
Field Marshal Jonares Hogan (OFA),
Supreme Director,
Omzian Forces High Command

Torontia's times is at an end. As we speak the Empire knocks on their front door with hundreds of thousands of cruise missiles.

Soon, they will not be left to take note of.
The Concordance has mixed feelings on this attack by the Empire of Yallak. On the one hand, this is a just retribution against an imperialist, genocidal nation, but on the other, a similar objective could have been realized by the imposition of diplomatic pressure or trade sanctions. Eventually, Torontia would be forced to surrender, and we could name our terms. The Concordance always prizes diplomacy before violence, explaining the relatively small number of wars that have occurred in our history (three major ones so far).

Although, I suppose it's too late by now.

~Kari Alhoun, Czardaian Foreign Minister

Mde. President. We welcome your involvement on the behalf of our state. Feel free to send whatever forces you feel appropriate to deal with the threat. We will offer you the same deal of quarter within our boarders, as well as food suppliments. You will be joining the variously arrayed forces already committed to our sovereign territoy, and when this crisis is over, we will happily establish dplomatic relations with your nation.

Stoddenia

To the Imperial Forces of Tocrowkia,

Many thanks for your fraternal solidarity with our fledgeling republic. It is rather odd that imperial and Nationalist Forces have stood up for our continued independence, while Socialists, for the most part (Amestria excepted) are nowhere to be found. ...

OOC:

Odd, but I thought I posted a rather open-ended diplomatic extension of friendship to your nation. If you want to ignore my reply, so be it, but I would appreciate at least a small response should my efforts not be requested; sorry to seem so terse and bearing of ill will.

From: The Lone Alliance

To:Stoddenia

We pledge full support for your nation, we are prepared to deliever as much weaponary and troops that we can.

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From: The Lone Alliance

To:Torontia

It's time to finish what our nations started years ago, you have been a thorn in our side too long. Well no longer shall you bother us or any other nation.

TLA News
Today the Council voted to officially Recognizes The United Socialist States of Stoddenia and have pledged to defend them against the evil, corrupt, Warmongering, dirty, disease ridden, gutless, soulless, and brainless forces of The New Order Republic of Torontia. The Lone Alliance welcomes Stoddenia to the World stage, it is just sad that it is under such a situation.

To Schultaria Prime:

We wish to express our sincere apologies for overlooking your overture. Of course, we are happy to have diplomatic friends such as yourself. As a matter of fact, it would be an honor to recieve your diplomats. This crisis seems to be waning, thank the Creator for that. But there is still much work to do as far as the development of a peaceful world order made up of independent states and so forth. We merely overlooked your supportive comments as we are dealing with this crisis on a number of levels. It was, certainly, not meant as a gaffe. May I invite your diplomats to write telegrams directly to our Government in Stoddenia, and we will be more than happy to establish diplomatic relations.

The President of Stoddenia

From: The Lone Alliance

To:Torontia

It's time to finish what our nations started years ago, you have been a thorn in our side too long. Well no longer shall you bother us or any other nation.
(OOC: This is the final Standoff.)

OOC: I think Yallak has this one covered. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=451985)

To Field Marshall of the Omzian Republic.

We appreciate your fraternal statements on our behalf and hope, for all of our sake, that the arrayal of forces against this agression will be enough to prevent it. We both seek peace, and Stoddenia will be happy to base future discussions with your republic on this foundation.

Stoddenia

The Concordance has mixed feelings on this attack by the Empire of Yallak. On the one hand, this is a just retribution against an imperialist, genocidal nation, but on the other, a similar objective could have been realized by the imposition of diplomatic pressure or trade sanctions. Eventually, Torontia would be forced to surrender, and we could name our terms. The Concordance always prizes diplomacy before violence, explaining the relatively small number of wars that have occurred in our history (three major ones so far).

Although, I suppose it's too late by now.

~Kari Alhoun, Czardaian Foreign Minister

For your information - Torontia attacked a protectorate (Xirnium) of the Yallakian Empire before we began to attack. He initiated the war. Though it will soon be over - and possibly without bloodshed should Torontia surrender. There is still time.

To the Lone Alliance:

We appreciate your offers of support to our New republic and your recognition of our government. We will welcome any and all forces you feel are necessary to be deployed to our state, and offer you the same terms we have offered the other members of our coalition against Torontia. Additionally, if, after the crisis has completed on the Stoddenia theater, if we can be of any support for you, feel free to let us know.

We look forward to the end of this crisis and the establishment of diplomatic relations.

Stoddenia

Message from the Amestrian Ministry of Peace

As Torontia has collapsed and no longer poses a direct threat to Stoddenia, the 100,000 soldiers currently in Stoddenia shall be dispatched to Torontia to take part in peacekeeping operations.

-Minister of Peace John Rawlings

Encoded Transmission MNX-64U
To: The President of Stoddenia

I will be in Torontia for the next few days. I invite you to meet me there - as I have a few days to spare before the the war against Kraven continues.

Balor, Emperor of Yallak

For your information - Torontia attacked a protectorate (Xirnium) of the Yallakian Empire before we began to attack. He initiated the war. Though it will soon be over - and possibly without bloodshed should Torontia surrender. There is still time.
The Concordance apologizes that it has not been following the wars involving Xirnium (which tie in to the Kraven Corporation), and has taken a neutral stance. We could not exactly afford to enter another war at this time, due to our current state of impending war against CAD.

~Kari Alhoun, Czardaian Foreign Minister

There is no need to apologize. Your nation has its own priorities and the despicable Kraven Corporation should not hold your attention from them.
The Empire bids you luck if your war against CAD breaks out.