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Your nation's policy on WMD's?

Kahanistan
01-11-2005, 05:42
Kahanistan's policy on WMD's

1. Biological weapons - None. Nada. Zilch. We don't use them, too difficult to control, risk of spreading into civilian areas is too great, especially if it's a contagious weapon.

2. Chemical weapons - Rarely. Generally deployed when a defensive position far from civilian areas is overrun, or if prevailing winds would carry the gas away from a nearby civilian area if a defensive position near such areas is overrun.

3. Nuclear weapons - Generally used only against much larger nations, or if large numbers of troops are deployed to foreign conflicts, in order to weaken enemy military forces before they even deploy. Not targeted on cities, just military bases and fleets.
Axis Nova
01-11-2005, 05:44
1. Biological weapons - None. Too hard to control!

2. Chemical weapons - Police use tear gas and pepper gas and so forth, but no real military use.

3. Nuclear weapons - Tactical weapons against targets that would take too much trouble to reduce using conventional weapons, and against strategic threats.
Red Tide2
01-11-2005, 05:45
In the eyes of the Red Tidean Military:
Nuclear Armaments:Useful in both stratigic and tactical battle... but political control means they will not usually be available.

Bio-Agents:Useful against far away enemy populace... otherwise too slow and to unpredictable.

Chemical Agents:Useful on tactical and limited stratigic battles. These will be used if plan for attack has been approved by Major General or higher rank.

Focused Weapons of Mass Destruction(Tungsten Rods, Burst-Warheads, Falling Stars, Etc.):Useful in both stratigic and tactical sense. Very powerful and, better yet, very controllable.

In the eyes of the Red Tide Politician(notice... no plural):

Nuclear Armaments:A risky gamble. Could provoke responses from more trigger happy 'nuke-men'.

Bio-Agents:A useful tool against enemy cities/espionage, otherwise they go along with the militaries point of view.

Chemical Agents: See it as just one step above regular weapons. That is why at least a Major General must authorize its use.

Focused Weapons of Mass Destruction: Just another weapon(s).
Civitas Americae
01-11-2005, 05:50
Bio and chem we don't use. Nukes are used, but not against civilian targets (we think of them as just large bombs).
DMG
01-11-2005, 05:51
My nation has all three types of WMDs because we sell them at DMI, but have never used any type of them.
Frostguarde
01-11-2005, 05:52
Frostguarde uses biological weapons. Further information on such weapons is classified.

Frostguarde utilizes infantry equipped with a poison gas, the composition of which is classified and altered regularly to remain secretive, which is sprayed into enemy lines, but dissipates quickly in the air. It kills instantly in a fair area though. Police corps also utilize crowd control items, such as tear gas.

Tactical nuclear warheads are readily available for military use.
Nianacio
01-11-2005, 06:07
Nianacio does not object to use of WsMD, IF their use does not harm civilians. The detonation of a sufficiently large nuclear device, even detonated in the middle of the ocean, would be considered unacceptable.

I've thought about setting up a poll along the lines of "How would your nation react to use of nuclear weapons in a naval battle?"...If anyone wants to throw in a response to that question while answering this one, I'd love to see what people have to say (though I may create a poll sometime soon).
DMG
01-11-2005, 06:09
that seems like a redundant question... If you are ok with using WMDs, then you will be ok with using them in a naval battle... if you are not ok with using WMDs, than you will not be ok with using them in a naval battle...

nuf said.
Nianacio
01-11-2005, 06:15
that seems like a redundant question... If you are ok with using WMDs, then you will be ok with using them in a naval battle... if you are not ok with using WMDs, than you will not be ok with using them in a naval battle...

nuf said.It's really a complicated issue. I don't see WsMD as being special weapons whose use must be responded to severely, but they can be difficult to control. Low-yield nuclear weapons could be safely used in a naval engagement, while they could create collateral damage when used on land. Some nations threaten escalation of the conflict if a single nuclear weapon is used. Others might consider use of low-yield nuclear weapons at sea a "go-ahead" for the use of their own low-yield nuclear weapons, others might condemn their use but do nothing, and others might not care at all. It would be nice to know who has what policy.
Mirkana
01-11-2005, 06:16
Mirkana uses tactical nuclear weapons and has an arsenal of nonlethal chemical weapons - though after being hit with "Army Bathroom Malador", you would probably prefer mustard gas.

Bioweapons and lethal chemical weapons are too unpredictable. We also use EMP extensively.
DMG
01-11-2005, 06:19
It's really a complicated issue. I don't see WsMD as being special weapons whose use must be responded to severely, but they can be difficult to control. Low-yield nuclear weapons could be safely used in a naval engagement, while they could create collateral damage when used on land. Some nations threaten escalation of the conflict if a single nuclear weapon is used. Others might consider use of low-yield nuclear weapons at sea a "go-ahead" for the use of their own low-yield nuclear weapons, while others might not care at all. It would be nice to know who has what policy.

How is there no collateral damage when they are used at sea...

You are destroying and/or infecting large amounts of naval wild life. Some of which will then be consumed or used by the population of a nation, and thus infecting their people.

There is always colleteral damage.
Nianacio
01-11-2005, 06:26
Deep in international waters there won't be much of note. No one should be fishing at the site of a battle.
DMG
01-11-2005, 06:30
yes... so if you are going to narrow down the question to such a specific that you almost will certainly recieve one answer, there is no point in asking it.

Not all sea battles are fought in international waters...

Fish migrate, radiation carries, it gets back eventually
Omz222
01-11-2005, 06:39
Informal Policy Regarding 'Weapons of Mass Destruction'
Omzian Forces Memo, DY 100
"The use of weapons of mass destruction is not a question of why, but when. So it is imperative that the entirety of the Omzian population will be ready to make their own parts heard in the grand struggle against the imperialist-aristocratic-fascist threat" - Great Eternal President and Supreme Marshal, Comrade Hongaz Omazee, DY 12

Biological weapons - Not stockpiled, for various reasons.

Chemical weapons - Certain nerve agents (inc. the [in]famous VX) are stockpiled in large quantities for dispensing via means of precision weapons. Policy generally dictates nerve agents to be used against enemy ground forces and population centers, in the events that they are used against Omzian ships, ground forces, or/and population centres. Incapacitating agents are also stockpiled for counter-terrorism tasks.

Nuclear weapons -
STRATEGIC - Instant retailation by the entire Strategic Air Command of the Omzian Air Force. Omzian Forces does not operate any ICBMs or other strategic nuclear platforms, but utilizes small tactical weapons (0.2kT - 50kT Mk.288, 0.05kT - 30kT Mk.230) that can be utilized in gigantic quantities by high-payload bombers in case the need arises.
TACTICAL - Tactical use of nuclear weapons against Omzian ground forces will instantly guarentee the unlimited use of tactical nuclear weapons against enemy ground, air, and naval forces as a mean to achieve tactical and strategic objectives. Tactical use of nuclear weapons against Omzian naval forces will instantly guarentee the unlimited use of tactical nuclear weapons against enemy round, air, and naval forces, in addition to facilities housing major enemy naval contigents. The Omzian Forces stockpiles tactical nuclear weapons, employed on SAMs, cruise missiles, and submerged platforms.

Others -
KINETIC KILL SATELLITES - The Omzian Navy operates a large number of submerged platforms utilizing anti-satellite weapons. If the Omzian armed forces engage in armed combat with one or more nations possessing satellites utilizing kinetic kill rods, unless the nation makes a guarentee that such weapon would not be used against Omzian assets beforehand, all satellites within reach of Omzian anti-satellite weapons of the aforementioned nation will be shot down once hostilities commerce. If the nation breaks such promise, unlimited conventional strategic bombing attacks against the nation's population centres will commerce.
SUPERDREADNOUGHTS - The Omzian Navy has classified means as to approach the superdreadnought threat neither through using SDs themselves nor using nuclear weapons.
Nianacio
01-11-2005, 06:45
yes... so if you are going to narrow down the question to such a specific that you almost will certainly recieve one answer, there is no point in asking it.Half of post #9 was showing I'd get wildly different answers. This isn't a yes/no question.
Not all sea battles are fought in international waters...Nor do they have to be to avoid collateral damage.
Fish migrate, radiation carries, it gets back eventuallyThe fish will die and the radioactive material will disperse so as not to be a major threat.
Nerobi Narabba
01-11-2005, 06:46
We use all forms of WMD's. The more variety you have in your weapon stock, the harder it is to be protected against. Plus we’d be able to sell them to ‘freedom fighters’ for fun and profit.
Madnestan
01-11-2005, 06:48
In my country, nukes are used for defensive, and for defensive role only. Not even in situation in which we are just about to lose a war will they be used, not even if the enemy is at the gates of the last stronghold.

ONLY IF NUCLEAR, CHEMICAL OR BIOLOGICAL WEAPONRY IS USED AGAINST ME will my rather large stock of strategical devices be used against the one who did that mistake. The response will be immeadiate and final.

Full glassing of the enemy nation.

So, whatever you do when in war with me, rest assured you can fight without having to fear any sort of WMD's (Expect my elite armoured divisions and stunning leadership! :rolleyes: ) if you don't use them first.
Kendari
01-11-2005, 07:19
Kendari is willing to use some forms of chemical weaponry, although they are not common. Biological weapons are considered too hard to control. Nuclear weapons are inefficient - if massive destruction is needed, there are simpler ways of causing it.
(FT nation)
The Lone Alliance
01-11-2005, 08:25
Biological weapons: None currently though if ever used the only thing that this nation would ever release would at most be the common cold.

Chemical weapons: Use of nonlethal gas is approved against targets, TearGas shells are planned to go into production soon.

Nuclear Armaments: Small Neutron Bombs are used on hardened targets, 2 Kilitons on Troop formations and Multiple 20 Megatons for Glassing a nation. The last two are only used at last resort.
Unnati
01-11-2005, 08:39
My country is totally peaceful and we dont believe in arms and ammunitions at all. Therez no army although there's a police force which does not use any kind of guns. The criminals undergo a SPIRITUAL REHABILITATION in jails.No term for imprisonment is more than 5 years.:)
Xirnium
01-11-2005, 08:43
My country is totally peaceful and we dont believe in arms and ammunitions at all. Therez no army although there's a police force which does not use any kind of guns. The criminals undergo a SPIRITUAL REHABILITATION in jails.No term for imprisonment is more than 5 years.:)

I wouldn't say that too loudly around here... the world isn't full of honourable nations you know. ;)
Saint Fedski
01-11-2005, 08:56
I wouldn't say that too loudly around here... the world isn't full of honourable nations you know. ;)
hehe just got a not so honourable idea ;)
Nova Boozia
01-11-2005, 09:05
Boozia posseses no weapons of mass destruction, for the same reason that the british failed to adopt machine guns as fast as the germans: where's the fun! There's no point to war if you can just blow up a nation with one red button! War ought to be personall. We also strongly object to the use of weapons of mass destruction against. In my opinion, with nukes, it's world destruction or M.A.D doctorine. However, tactical use of chemicals is considered fine, and the gasmask remains the symbol of the Boozetrooper.
Ariddia
01-11-2005, 09:11
Ariddia is a peaceful Third World nation, and has no weapons of mass destruction. Our neighbours in West Ariddia have nuclear weapons, solely as a deterrant, but no chemical or biological weapons.
Iansisle
01-11-2005, 09:19
Biological Weapons: Iansisle currently maintains no stocks of biological agents, nor is there any government-sponsored research into the same.

Chemical Weapons: The Grand Empire built a large stock of chemical agents -- primarily chlorine gas, mustard gas, and phosgene -- which the Republic inherited following the Revolution. Although no further research is being pursued into new agents or methods of delivery, the stocks have been sparingly used in extreme situations. Iansisle does not generally consider the use of its chemical weapons to constitute a weapon of mass destruction, but neither does it broadcast such uses on an international scale.

Nuclear Weapons: There is a very large stock of nuclear explosives, ranging in size from two to fifty kilotons, maintained by the Iansislean government. Heavy bombers are the preferred method of deployment, but more clandestine emplacements have been used with the smaller weapons at times. Research is currently ongoing into both bigger bombs and new delivery systems for the dawning rocket age. Only one bomb has ever been detonated in a non-test situation, a two kilo-ton device which destroyed the battleship Gurney during the Corporate Yoke.
Madnestan
01-11-2005, 14:36
hehe just got a not so honourable idea ;)

You mean nation-rapers! Don't worry Unnati, I'll protect you! If you'd just allow me to send couple of divisions to secure your capital, hmmm? ;)
Yallak
01-11-2005, 15:25
Yallak's WMD Policy

1. Biological weapons - None.

2. Chemical weapons - Yes. If needed, we will gas the hell out you.

3. Nuclear weapons - Generally No. We shut down our Nuclear weapons program but still have a stockpile of missiles - just incase.
Praetonia
01-11-2005, 15:42
It depends what you mean by "use". Praetonia funds and maintains stockpiles ans research programmes into all three, but only deploys nuclear weapons in force, which are then only really used as a deterrent against nuclear attack and, to a lesser extent, as a deterrent against invasion. Biological weapons are pretty useless because they always work their way back to you, and dont finish off an enemy anyway, but they may come in handy. Chemical weapons arent that effective as strategic weapons, but stockpiles of tactical weapons are kept.
Pwnica
01-11-2005, 15:53
We have nuclear weapons in stock, but they're very rarely used, and even then almost never against civilian targets.
Cuation
01-11-2005, 16:19
Cuation has some biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons. My nation is quite willing to use them though I'm sure many nations have bigger stockpiles so we prefer just to use them against those that don't. We get hurt less that way
Cotland
01-11-2005, 16:20
Officially, Cotland does not have any sort of WMDs. However, covertly, it maintains large stockpiles of nuclear weapons in form of SLBMs, IRBMs, ICBMS and free-fall bombs, and to a lesser extent chemical and biological weapons. Use of those weapons will only be if attacked first with said weapons.
Sarzonia
01-11-2005, 16:25
Official Incorporated Sarzonian Policy Paper

Abstract The Incorporated Sarzonian Government has long operated on a policy of responsible use of combat munitions; in particular, those combat profiles that include the potential of creating Mutually Assured Destruction. Our policy also centers on avoiding needless civilian casualties in as many areas as possible as that runs counter to Sarzonian combat doctrine.

With respect to the use of biological weapons, the Incorporated Sarzonian Military ascribes to the tenets of the Woodstock Convention, which expressly prohibits their use; in particular against civilian populations. We consider their employment to be an act of terrorism and a blight against humanity. We condemn their use by foe and ally alike.

As for the employment of chemical weapons, we find that certain weapons, such as thermobaric rounds, are highly effective in use as tactical ordnance and we employ them in tactical situations that warrant it. We also have determined that chemical weapons have limited efficacy in a strategic weapon realm, and as a result, we do not employ them in that mission profile.

Nuclear weapons stockpiles are maintained and research is ongoing with respect to both tactical and strategic weapons. We favour the use of tactical nuclear weapons under limited circumstances; particularly in mission objectives against foes that are known to have stable leadership or fight honourably. However, we retain the right to maintain strategic or tactical nuclear weapons in their primary role within most Sarzonian military objectives. This mission profile is that of a deterrant and a last-ditch offensive operation. We do not employ strategic level nuclear strikes unless we are under dire circumstances.

John Newman
Vice President for Defence

Bill Lighton
Vice President for the Home Guard
[OOC: Yes, that's my Air Force Chief now becoming VP of a new military organisation within Sarzonia. :p]
MassPwnage
01-11-2005, 16:37
ooc: Generally, I have an ooc policy against rping with WMDs because let's face it. No one does it right.

But Icly:

Nukes: Everything, including neutron munitions, nuke sats, ICBMs, SLBMs, Air launched nuclear missiles etc.

Biological: Spread the love. MP keeps so many disease stockpiles around, it's not funny.

Chemical: Breathe deep.... (all I can say)
Otagia
01-11-2005, 18:23
Well, seeing as I run PRA, and have the largest selection of bio-chem weapons on NS...

Chemical: Oh god yes. Oodles of them, used in any engagement I can get away with it. Mostly such things as PhospoRend (Coming Soon!), BZ, AeroClot and NBC-CCMs such as CorroMis. Sadly, I've never really had a chance to use these, but should soon.

Biological: Both as WMD's and as force multipliers. Again, oodles upon oodles of the things. Generation Disease, Beta Anthrax, VITAS (Coming Soon!), Eye Killer... Again, I'd use these tactically in any engagement I can, and as responses to WMDs used against me. I've only had the chance to use them once, as a semi-terrorist plot by one of my government officials.

Nuclear: Otagia uses NO nuclear weapons. Much too dangerous, what with fallout and all. No selectiveness either. Right out.
Czardas
01-11-2005, 18:40
The Concordance's policy on weapons of mass destruction (hereafter WMDs) can be summarized very simply:

Biological weapons are not used, or even stockpiled. Their use is considered a violation of human rights and a use of biological weapons by any nation will be strongly condemned.

Chemical weapons of mass destruction are not used; however, that does not go for handheld chemical weapons such as pepper spray. Generally, however, the use of chemical weapons for purposes of mass destruction is strongly condemned.

Nuclear weapons is an oddity of the Czardaian policy. While Czardas will condemn the use of nuclear weapons by any nation except in self-defense against weapons of a similar type, the Concordance retains a small stockpile of tactical and strategic nuclear warheads to be used for similar self-defense purposes. Czardas will never launch nuclear weapons against any nation except one that has launched similar weapons against Czardas itself. The Concordance will never attack another nation with nuclear weapons, partly due to the lack of international support and partly due to the fact that it contains many similarly effective weapons to defend against invading forces:

- Nonradiation plasmatic expanding warheads
- Vast stockpiles of SAMs, SSMs, anti-ship missiles, and torpedoes launched from coastal installments
- Nonnuclear handheld bombs carried by all soldiers with 1/4 nuclear strength
- Current development of orbital weapons (expected to be finished within 5-10 years)
FishCaks
01-11-2005, 20:14
Formal FishCak Policy On WMD's (Weapons of Mass Destruction)
From here in the word "WMD" refer to Weapons of mass destruction wheather they be bioloigcal chemcial or nuke

As with most nations the exact line up of our weapons is a higly gaured secret but we are willing to reasle a few details about "WMD's"

The offical standing on "WMD's" is that we will not use them with out severe provoaction and then when/if we use them they will be tactical nukes only.

Fishcaks will NEVER use chemical or biological weapons, with the exception of the police (both miltary and non-milltarty) who have access to CS / Tear gas

Well i hope that clears things up
Scandavian States
01-11-2005, 20:33
Imperium uses chemical and isomer weapons. Biological is a big no-no and we don't really consider things like space-based kinetic weapons WMD.
Falcania
01-11-2005, 21:14
I use all three. Or would do, if I had any. But somehow I can't afford them. Strange, isn't it.
Garrison II
01-11-2005, 21:21
Garrison II launched the biggest nuclear omnicaust ever in the history of nationstates, except that you are all too young to have remembered.
Madnestan
01-11-2005, 21:31
Garrison II launched the biggest nuclear omnicaust ever in the history of nationstates, except that you are all too young to have remembered.

OMG! JOINED IN '02!!!!!! :eek: *bows dee-ee-eep*

EDIT: And no, this is not even sarcasm!
Jenrak
01-11-2005, 21:35
Nuclear Weaponry - Not to as great degree. We see them as merly detrimental, as if we invade, we tend to occupy, and things are certainly difficult to do so when things are massed in destruction by these things. Retaliatory attacks with nuclear weapons are normal to us, but we don't have anything special about them nor any extreme opinion.

Chemical Weaponry - The cornerstone of our business, the silver sword in our war. Jenrak spends a total of 12% of our military budget into chemical weaponry, and we have been practising it's applications since over 5,000 years ago. To us, it's not just an effective way of stopping large amounts of foes, but also a way of life in the art of war.

Biological Weaponry - Our shining light of strength. At nearly 15% of our budget goes into biological weaponry, and it is usually used and mostly at any possible occassion. Constantly our weapons are updated to stay ahead of the level of tenacity from international rivals, and it's often speculated that the eastern wastelands of Jenrak are created from the effect of biological testing from our forefathers.
Potty 5
01-11-2005, 21:56
Potty 5 does not publicize its WMDs, if it has any. It has never used WMDs. That being said there is no reason to assume that Potty 5 does not have WMDs. Potty 5 has a very strong nuclear power program, and a very strong space program, this shows that we have the means to construct and deliver nuclear weapons, if we are willing.
Potty 5 also has a strong history of research and performance in the medical/biotech fields and has a great deal of experience with viruses, bacteria, and disease. We are not saying that we have biological weapons just that we could.
Potty 5 is large nation that produces most of its own food. As you may or may not know agriculture is the origin of chemical weapons. We are not saying that we have them just that we could.
Potty 5 does not support the use of nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons because of the ecological damage and but Potty 5 is not a nation that, at the present time would declare war, or impose sanctions on a nation just for developing/having/demonstrating/using WMDs.
Layarteb
01-11-2005, 22:06
The Empire uses all three (NBC) but only uses them defensively. Biological & chemical weapons have been used on small scales, offensively, but that is something unexplained publically to this point.
United Earthlings
01-11-2005, 22:07
The nation of United Earthlings has both a stockpile of chemical and nuclear weapons. However, they are only allowed to be used in defense of the national sovereignty of our great nation. We do not believe in the use of WMD's and only have them to safe guard our nation from a WMD attack. As, of yet they have never been needed and our great nation wishes it to remain that way. On a note of Biological weapons- we have not conducted research into their use and will never will. All biological weapons research has been banned in our nation.
Triancia
01-11-2005, 22:36
Triancia's Policy on WMDs is as follows:

Nuclear Weapons
Triancia maintains a 'second strike' policy in regards to nuclear weapons, in effect designating them as a deterrent force against the nuclear armament of other countries. Nuclear weapons can also be used on a country that engages in biological warfare. It should be noted that any ICBM or SLBM launch against Triancia is considered a nuclear attack, regardless of the true payload. This policy has also be described as an 'all-or-nothing' one, as one attack by an enemy with nuclear weapons is basis for a massive strategic counterattack, as well as authorization of battlefield commanders to use tactical nuclear weapons.
Chemical Weapons
Unlike other nations, Triancia considers chemical weapons, in small amounts, as a valid weapon of war. Almost exclusively used is a poison called Karecin-12, which, depending on it's concentration and time exposed to air, can kill in anything from 30 seconds, to five minutes. It is made so that, when exposed to oxygen, it will become inert and non-lethal inside of six hours, hopefully minimizing civilian and friendly causalities. Karecin-12’s composition as a highly-lethal, but short-lived compound fits well within Triancian policy, and will realistically be used when Triancia is backed into the proverbial corner, against large troop concentrations threatening the Triancian homeland. There are rumors that Triancia is developing compounds designed to kill livestock and crops, but they cannot be substantiated. Such a weapon would be a strategic one, used over the long-term to destroy the enemy’s food production capabilities. Lastly, Triancia will use non-lethal agents, both in domestic policing and military roles.
Biological Weapons
Under no circumstances will Triancia engage in biological warfare. While Triancia maintains small amounts of weaponized viruses, they are currently kept in secure facilities, under heavy guard, as scientists work on countering them with either vaccines or anti-viral medication.


The methods used by Triancia to deploy these weapons are numerous: Artillery, free-fall bombs, guided surface percing bombs, criuse missles, ICBMs and SLBMs are all example. Triancia may have deployed a Fractional Orbital Bombardment system on selected ballistic missiles, as well.

OOC:

Biological: Both as WMD's and as force multipliers. Again, oodles upon oodles of the things. Generation Disease, Beta Anthrax, VITAS (Coming Soon!), Eye Killer... Again, I'd use these tactically in any engagement I can, and as responses to WMDs used against me. I've only had the chance to use them once, as a semi-terrorist plot by one of my government officials.


VITAS?!? SHHHH! Don't say your producing it, you fool! Next thing you know, Aztechology and Ares are both trying to geek your hoop with horades of razorboys!

:D
Halberdgardia
01-11-2005, 22:39
We maintain rather significant stockpiles of NBC weapons, though we have fortunately not yet had to use them. We also possess some "rods-of-God" satellites for more focused (yet still relatively widespread) destruction.

But our policy on the use of WMDs, particularly nuclear weapons, can be summed up nicely in a doctrine written by Samtonia, which we saw fit to adopt:

Halberdgardian Doctrine on WMDs (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9441386&postcount=2) (important passages bolded):

With the dawning of a new age of warfare, both politically and mentally, it is apparent that the current status quo of the proliferation/use of WMDs has swung into the proliferate use category. Recognizing the use of both tactical and strategic scale nuclear weapons as a growing threat to Halberdgardian interests, at sea and otherwise, and realizing the current ranges of NBC weapons are being greatly expanded upon, the Halberdgardian Tactical Doctrine regarding use of such weapons has been found to be clearly inadequate.

Therefore, with willpower evolving along with weaponry, it became clear new standards of military reply, both tactical and strategic, were needed to prevent Halberdgardia from being caught in the vice of tactical exchanges with strategic threats levering an effective response down. Therefore, be it advised that Halberdgardia is initiating sweeping changes in WMD and NBC use/response protocols.

Changes include:

Immediate field authorization for retaliatory strikes upon origins of attacks of tactical NBC nature Downgrading of strategic NBC arms cache, with upgrading of tactical NBC capabilities to immediately follow
Immediate overhaul of strategic weapons defensive systems, including ground and air based
Stocks of tactical NBC weaponry to be distributed as authorized to appropriate commanders and positions, strategic and tactical, throughout Halberdgardian military forces and world
Authorization for full military action should WMD or NBC development, production, or stockpiling by any nation be deemed of a sufficient concern to Halberdgardian national interests
Non-escalation policy of NBC strikes to be authorized, unless in event of strategic range arms deployment
A variety of other changes are currently being implemented "in-house" to change the mission of Halberdgardian Special Weapons Division and Halberdgardian Strategic Missile Command. However, the policy changes are by far important ones to clarify to the world. With many nations now regarding "low" yield tactical nuclear weapons as effective solutions to frontline combat problems, the previous policy of MAD and escalation was judged far too severe a threat to Halberdgardian national interests. Therefore, any NBC attacks will immediately be responded to in kind by the appropriate field commanders, against targets deemed appropriate for both damage and impact.

A non-escalation policy will be observed, with the implicit understanding that any first-strike foreign use of an NBC weapon upon Halberdgardian troops, soil, or vested national interests will be an invitation to an in-kind response. There will be no escalating tactical use to the strategic level, however; instead, an appropriate tactical target will in turn be targeted for elimination in the same manner the Halberdgardian target was attacked.

This policy change is both fair and rational in this age of treating tactical WMDs as the be-all-end-all to military thinking and strategy. With these changes, Halberdgardia is now more fully able to retaliate should any target be subjected to an attack of the NBC nature. And, as always, we hope that the non-escalation policy will be followed by whatever nation was irrational enough to let loose the weapons of hell upon this Earth.
Otagia
01-11-2005, 22:48
VITAS?!? SHHHH! Don't say your producing it, you fool! Next thing you know, Aztechology and Ares are both trying to geek your hoop with horades of razorboys!

Bah, Aztechnology is a bunch of wusses, and I'd be more worried about THORs from Ares. Not many Shadowrunners out there, glad to see another one. I actually base a large amount of my infantry weaponry after SR, as well as the names for my strains of Anthrax and Ebola. Oh, and T-Birds :D.
Nianacio
01-11-2005, 23:12
I thought Garrison II had ceased to exist...I wonder why. :\OMG! JOINED IN '02!!!!!! :eek: *bows dee-ee-eep*

EDIT: And no, this is not even sarcasm!My nation is more than a month older. :p

/off-topic
The Silver Sky
01-11-2005, 23:50
Biological weapons: We have it in very small amounts, considered too slow and uncontrollable to effectively use in anything but a strategic weaponary compared to Chemical and nuclear weaponry. Can only be ordered by Lt. Generals/Vice Admirals or higher.

Chemical weapons: We use Thermobaric warheads that's for sure, though our stockpile is still pretty small compared to other nations, as such they are only deployed in a small role, can only be ordered by Lt. Generals/Vice Admirals or higher.

Tactical Nuclear weapons: Oh yeah, we have them tons, used in anything from SAMs, SSMs, AAMs to ABM, also The Silver Sky has issued tactical nukes to every artillery battalion in the nation, and is coming up with a short range humvee launched nuclear weapon in the sub kiloton range. Along with that every SDN that ever leaves port carries at least 10 5-100kt nuclear weapons for each turret, although the launch of such weapons can only be issued by Admirals or higher and they are carried in a seperate compartment that is heavily armored, same goes with nuclear torpedoes. Also we have a force of SRBM launchers.

Launch of Tactical nuclear weaponry can only be issued by Four-Star Generals, or Fleet Admirals and higher. Usually a inquiry is made later to discover if it was really worth i.

Strategic Nuclear weapons: We use MRBMs, IRBM, and ICBMs, along with nuclear tipped cruise missiles from bombers, and we have nuclear dumb/smart bombs.

Can only be called in by the Five-Star Generals of the Army, Air Force, or a Naval Admiral, or the President him self.

Focused Weapons of Mass Destructions: SDNs (well some consider them WMDs, I don't really), Falling Stars, KE weaponry (Rods of God) usually launched quickly via massdriver and deployed on spot.

Can be issued by Brigader Generals or equivilant rank.

OOCly I don't use WMDs unless someone else uses them, because WMDs usually tend to be poorly RPed, sometimes ruin a RP, and many thread starters say no WMDs.
Triancia
02-11-2005, 03:38
Bah, Aztechnology is a bunch of wusses, and I'd be more worried about THORs from Ares. Not many Shadowrunners out there, glad to see another one. I actually base a large amount of my infantry weaponry after SR, as well as the names for my strains of Anthrax and Ebola. Oh, and T-Birds :D.

Hmm...

First of all, I must not have the right source book. THORs?

And excellent! I've always thought of creating an ANDREWS system, but my country isn't at that level of tech. Do you have a storefront?

EDIT: Never mind, looked at your sig. :)
Otagia
02-11-2005, 04:27
Hmm...

First of all, I must not have the right source book. THORs?

And excellent! I've always thought of creating an ANDREWS system, but my country isn't at that level of tech. Do you have a storefront?

EDIT: Never mind, looked at your sig. :)
THOR projectiles, essentially a really big rock dropped from orbit. Aztlan sourcebook, perhaps. Ares and the other AAAs were threatening to bomb Tenochitclan (sp?) into oblivion if Aztechnology didn't stop annoying them. Needless to say, the Azzies quit.

Also, all my stuff (excepting the main PRA storefront on the IM, which is FT) is MT, so its quite plausible to use. I mostly use just stuff like the HVAR, and the cyberless smartgun system.
Saint Alpha
02-11-2005, 05:03
Saint Alpha has yet to obtain the technology to develop any of these, save prehaps very basic chemicals for potential police useage. Though, once we do obtain such technology we woud gladly use biological warfare should our nation be invaded and would probably use it against the enemies population, if only to take them down with us, as for chemical I find that most acceptable and useful in war (such as medical and food depots). As for nuclear, it may be useful but seems far too destructive to use on homelands, maybe against isolated locations or enemy countries.
The Crooked Beat
04-11-2005, 23:03
No Crooked armed service uses, or is permitted by law to use, weapons of mass destruction. During the Fourth Orange War, fought between Afrikaner settlers and the majority Black African Crooked Commonwealth, the settler forces employed chemical agents on numerous occasions before a concentrated night bombing offensive, carried out mainly through the use of the RCrAF's large numbers of Canberra fast bombers, destroyed the bulk of settler stocks.

Weapons of Mass Destruction are considered by most Crooked officers to be cowardly and inhumane devices, downright unsportsmanlike and heinous.