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The Anti-Kraven Alliance

Xirnium
01-11-2005, 00:27
OCC: The following thread's purpose is to forge a coallition to deal with the Kraven menace to world peace.

IC:

Their Emminences, the Lord High Grand Cardinals of the most sacred High Ecclesiarchy of the Holy Empire of Xirnium, propose to the decent and human-rights respecting free world the following anti-Kraven alliance:


Anti-Kraven Pact

Multination Agreement and Supplementary Protocol, Signed on, November 1, 2005

Agreement Guarding Against the Unlawful Kraven Corporation's Imperialism and In Response to the Kraven Corporation's Human Rights Abuses

The Nations of the Free World,

In cognizance of the fact that the objective of the Kraven Corporation involves the conquest of, and the commission of violence against, existing States by the exercise of all means at its command, and further the use of brutal means of subjugation and extermination of its own and others’ peoples,

Believing that any further toleration of the outrageous crimes against humanity and of the inhuman imperialism of the Kraven Corporation in the internal affairs of sovereign nations not only endangers their internal peace and social welfare, but threatens the general peace and stability of the entire world,

Desiring to co-operate in order to free the multitudes of people even now being exterminated by the inhumane apparatus of the Kraven Corporation and to guard against further Kraven Corporation aggression against foreign citizens in other States, have agreed as follows.

Article I
The High Contracting States agree that they will mutually keep each other informed concerning the activities of the Kraven Corporation and its Allies, will confer together upon the necessary countermeasures and measures of defense, and will carry out such measures in close co-operation.

Article II
The High Contracting States will jointly invite third States whose internal peace is menaced by the brutal imperialism and genocide of the Kraven Corporation, to adopt measures for responding to Kraven Human rights abuses and defensive measures in the spirit of the present Agreement or to participate in the present Agreement.

Article III
The Agreement shall come into force on the day of its signature and shall remain in force for the term of five years. The High Contracting States will, in a reasonable time before the expiration of the said term, come to an understanding upon the further manner of their co-operation.
In witness whereof the undersigned, duly authorized by their respective Governments, have affixed hereto their seals and signatures.

[Signed]
President Winston Harling

For the Allied States of Velkya

[Signed]
Senator Khalid bin Abdullah al-Omari, President of the Senate

[Signed]
Senator Maribel A. Crowley, Chair of the Armed Forces and Defense Committee

For the Democratic Soviet Republic of Kahanistan

[Signed]
Emperor Lord Balor

For the Infinite Empire of Yallak

[Signed]
The Most Holy Warmaster Lethian H'eloin III

For the Holy War Empire of Nistolonia

[Signed]
President Jeffrey Ottoman II

For the Sacred Hegemony of The Infinite Crucible

[Signed]
President John Holtz

For the Conservative United States of Holy Paradise

[Signed]
His Imperial Majesty Paul VII

For the Holy Empire of Civitas Americae

[Signed]
Senator Urbunus Postimus Victorinus, Prime Minister of the Republican Senate

For the Constitutional Republic of Praetoria Novus

[Signed]

President Fredrick Of Dweladelfia Prime

[Signed]
Vice-President Dan C

For the Christian Empire of Dweladelfia prime

[Signed]
Tyler Roosevelt, Commander and Chief of the The Republic of Altronia

For the Republic of Altronia

[Signed]
Chairman Giardi

For the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

[Signed]
The twelve strong Novacom Council of ministers

[Signed]
Suprainister Danteth Tolion

For the Alignment of Novacom

[Signed]
General Ken Remmol, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Republic of Mirkana

For the Armed Republic of Mirkana

[Signed]
Lord High Grand Cardinal Nidor, Chief Clergyman of His most sacred High Ecclesiarchy

For the Holy Empire of Xirnium
Jenrak
01-11-2005, 00:31
The Kraven Corporation seeks for economic profit, as do we. We see no fault in their part, only in the part of your perceptions. We urge to the nations whom look seemingly 'down' upon the Kraven Corporation that they must infer the extreme nature of human incense. Otherwise, we shall aid Kraven should anything happen to them.
-Drakthaz, Lord of Commerce
Xirnium
01-11-2005, 00:40
Ecclesiatical Edict of the Grand Cardinals of Holy Xirnium

The Kraven Corporation is a demon state that has, and what’s more is invading sovereign states that have neither threatened nor provoked it. It has done so to both illegally plunder resources and brutally harvest slaves for use as expendable resources in its diabolical industry.

The Kraven Corporation commits unspeakable outrages against its own and other nations’ civilians, exterminating men, women and children and subjecting them to obscene medical tests. It works innocent people to death in its slave-mines like dogs, allowing them to die by overwork, malnutrition, cold and beatings.

The suggestion that the Kraven filth are at “no fault” is absurd, and indictive of the mentality of Kraven’s fawning slave-allies.
Torontia
01-11-2005, 00:47
From: The New Order Republic of Torontia

To: The Anti-Kraven Alliance

Once again, Xirnium displays it's real intentions to the world with it's bloodthristy imperialism and it's status as a state led by an unstable theocracy which apparently takes it's orders from some 'voice from above' in their delusional attempts to reshape the world in their own evil ways.

Any leader who claims to hear voices in their head, like the so-called 'Emperor-God' that runs Xirnium, is clearly a danger to the well being of all nations.

The Xirnium 'religion' is nothing but collective insanity, worshiping a FAKE 'God', this leader is nothing but an imposter and a pimp to other more odious interests. So much for the 'Emperor-God of Xirnium', nothing but a whore who long sold his body and soul, I would say conscience as well but apparently he does not have one, to those REAL dangers that lurke in this world.

Xirnium has the cheek to call the Kraven Corporation 'imperialist'! Since when did putting down a TERRORIST revolt and a CRIMEWAVE, which is what the Kraven Corporation is doing WITHIN IT'S OWN BORDERS, define imperialism?????

The Kraven Corporation is fighting for the stability and peace of it's own people and the future freedom of it's own nation.

Xirnium and their so-called alliance however are engaging in REAL imperialism by plotting to take action and attack a nation which has NOT attacked nor has any intentions of attacking the nation of Xirnium.

So much for the double standards and delusional hypocracy of the mentally unstable 'leader' of Xirnium.

As for Xirnium's remarks of us being 'slave-allies' to the Kraven Corporation, what a load of utter BULLSHIT!

Torontia is a slave to NO ONE!

Torontia does NOT have any treaties with the Kraven Corporation, although we wish to develope relations with them, we will ONLY ever become allies with nations which see us as equals.

Torontia would prefer total isolation to having our nation being under the heel of any other nation.

Torontia urges all nations to ignore the insane rants that the so-called 'leader' of Xirnium comes out with and to ignore this delusional 'alliance'.

Clearly the lunatic in charge of Xirnium is getting bored and has nothing better to do than to pick fights with nations he could never hope to defeat.

Until the so-called 'Emperor-God' is safely inside a mental institute, stay well clear from Xirnium and don't touch the nation even with a bargepole!

President for Life of the New Order Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader Tanakis
Bretton
01-11-2005, 00:59
- Brettonian Ministry of Information -

Who are we to enforce a moral guideline upon the world? The Brettonian people and government stand behind the sovereignty of the Kraven Corporation to do as they please, within their own borders.
Xirnium
01-11-2005, 01:08
Once again we are privileged to view the conduct of one of Kraven’s deluded slave-allies in person.

The Torontian statement reeks of bigotry and intolerance, cowardly insulting the religion of the vast majority of Xirniumites. Fortunately, Xirnium is not yet an enclave of the demonic Kraven Empire, and the devout of Xirnium are not yet subject to the cruel extermination policies based on their religious beliefs that no doubt the criminal Torontia would be glad to propose and Kraven only to ready to impose.

But Torontia shows far more stupidity then that. It dares claim that Kraven is not imperialist. Torontia seems too blinded by its loyalty to its cruel slave-drivers to realise that even now two million filthy Kraven soldiers are fighting on Xirnium in an effort to subjugate the innocent people their and haul them away to be worked to death in its mines. Kraven is fighting an illegal war that it does so without cause nor justification. How one can label that anything but imperialism of the worse kind is beyond the Ecclesiarchy’s knowledge, an excellent exercises in double-think by Kraven’s ever loyal slaves.

Torontia’s cowardly claim that Kraven fights for stability and peace in its own nation is a disgusting insult to the millions of innocent men, women and children exterminated by the inhumane machinery of the Corporation.

Any nation that sells its soul to the Kraven filth is a slave ally of the Corporation, and the ever sycophantic Torontia is most certainly one. The rest of their rambling statement issued by Torontia the Ecclesiarchy cares not to respond to, we refuse to deal with the foul Kraven High Command itself much less their deluded slave-allies (particularaly one so pitifully weak as to be of no consequence to the opinions of the international community).
Velkya
01-11-2005, 01:18
Velkya will join in this alliance, and vows to defeat the Kraven Corparation and it's mercenary allies.

Signed: Winston Harling
Cypresaria
01-11-2005, 01:25
Scene: Cabinet room , Presidential fortress, Cypresaria

President for life Boris: Item 3 on the agenda is the news of the anti-kraven alliance. question is what do we do about it?

Defence minister Puskin : Sir, I would suggest we do nothing, as you know our military is not upto full strength yet, due to the high cost of the missile defence program, However so far we have deployed 15 BMD stations around the major targets of cypresaria, the captial being one, New Plymouth naval shipyards being another.
However there is a chance if things turn nasty that either side could try something here. So I would vote for placing all military forces on alert status 3.

Foreign minister Hayseed : I disagree, any change in our military alert status could be interpreted by either side as a prelude of us joining one side. result we could get attacked by both sides and have them fight out their war in our fair country.
But there again since Xirnium is run by a bunch of religious nutcases, I'd say we ought to side with Kraven

Security minister Hoffa : Well in the event of war breaking out, I take it we'll have permission to round up the usual suspects and throw them in prison?

President Boris : Ok the decision is made, I want a message drafted to the leaders of both powers stating that any violation of Cypresarian territory by either side will be regarded very seriously by the government as a possible act of war.
All BMD stations placed on high alert, and military alert status raised from 4 to 3, Any other countries notice or complain, well we're having major military exercises.

Ok Item 4 on the agenda : Income tax evasion.....
Jenrak
01-11-2005, 01:27
The Xirnium empire underestimates the tenacity of the rest of the economic world. No nation, not even the Kraven Corporation would dare to attempt to upset a balance such as this created, for there are greater, darker and more powerful threats that lurk beneath the wade of dollars made in profit. If your people are so dluded as to attempt to destroy (and will most surely fail), and disrupt economics, you will not live to see the day.
-Lord of Commerce, Drakthaz
Otagia
01-11-2005, 01:28
Open Letter to the Anti-Kraven Alliance

The Corporate Monarchy of Otagia officially decries your senseless posturing. Your hostile outlook merely serves to warn the saner members of the global community of the dangers of religious extremism. Can the nation of Xirnium honestly say that it would not put down a hostile revolt in its own country? Can they claim to refrain from prosecuting violent criminals in their own nation? When the nation of Xirnium ceases its hypocracy, we will listen. But until then, Otagia and Pale Rider Arms shall defend the rights of the Kraven Corporation to police its own borders.

Yours,
Daniel Quetzal,
CEO of Pale Rider Arms
Regent-Elect of Otagia
Kahanistan
01-11-2005, 01:33
DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Office of the Supreme Soviet

The Supreme Soviet of Kahanistan endorses and ratifies the Anti-Kraven Alliance, and condemns their cruel and barbarous acts of savagery.

What we have witnessed in Kraven, and everywhere Kraven soldiers set foot, is the behavior of unspeakably evil capitalist beasts who have no humanity, compassion, kindness, morality, or decency.

The Supreme Soviet of Kahanistan, therefore, calls upon the Kraven Corporation and its allies to withdraw from Xirnium. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=447234) After all, the Kraven Corporation stands to lose far more in troops and resources than what it would gain by victory over Xirnium.

If they do not withdraw by 10 November 2005, one Kraven military base will be destroyed by Kahanistanian and allied MiG-29 fighter-bombers for each day Kraven remains in defiance of the decree of the Supreme Soviet.

Senator Khalid bin Abdullah al-Omari, President of the Senate
Senator Maribel A. Crowley, Chair of the Armed Forces and Defense Committee
Yallak
01-11-2005, 01:34
Kraven has openly attacked the Empire and we will meet him them with all due force. Yallak joins the alliance and promises that all who stand in the way of our retribution against the Corporation will be the first to fall.
Velkya
01-11-2005, 01:38
I'll TG you guys with some plans.
The Infinite Crucible
01-11-2005, 01:44
OOC: Short thing dont have much time. I mean really short, lol. Also dont attack until we have a good gameplan. I have a pretty good idea if I do say so myself, so I will run it by you when I have time to write it down.

IC:
The actions of The Kraven Corporation are against all forms of humanity and must be stopped. The price of giving in to and ignoring dangerous nations can be seen readily in the cost of World War II. We will go to war.

-President Ottoman II

OOC2: Working this up over the course of the day. Here are the troups I will be devoting.

Naval Units:

2000 Ships Total
5 Apollo Class Super Carriers
20 Marathon Class Fleet Carriers
10 Spartan Class Light Carriers
15 Medusa Class VSTOL/Helicopter Carriers
10 Titan Class Battleships
15 Olympian Class Battleships
20 Humanity Class Battle cruisers
5 Zeus Class Super Arsenal Ships
30 Artemis Class Arsenal Ships
100 Zephyr Class Guided Missile Cruisers
50 Sol Class Guided Missile Cruisers
100 Solon Class Guided Missile Destroyers
50 Hercules Class Destroyers
150 Muse Class Anti Missile Frigates
50 Poseidon Class ASW Frigates
100 Odysseus Helicopter Landing Ships
10 Leviathan Class Ballistic Missile Subs
50 Charybdis Class Guided Missile Submarines
100 Hydra Class Attack Submarines
100 Brood Mother Class Submarines
The remaining ships are support ships, supply carriers, and what not.

Land Units:

Central Legion:

2nd – 4th Infantry Divisions
300,000 Crucible Soldiers
100 Hoplite LBT
100 Phalanx MBT
100 Ares Class Mobile SAM’s
500 Trireme IFV
500 Pegasus Multi Purpose Helicopters
100 Trojan Transport Helicopters
200 Sprite Light Assault Helicopter
100 Fury Class Gunships
Support Vehicles and what not

900,000 men total, highly mechanized

1st – 6th Mechanized Divisions
100,000 Crucible Soldiers
500 Trireme IFV
1000 Pegasus Multi Purpose Helicopters
300 Trojan Transport Helicopters
400 Sprite Light Assault Helicopters
300 Fury Class Gunships
100 Ares Class Mobile Sam’s
Support Vehicles

600,000 men total

1st and 2nd Calvary Division
3000 Sprite Light Assault Helicopters
2000 Fury Class Gunships
500 Erebus Class VTOL Fighters
Support Craft

1st and 2nd Armored Division
2000 Hoplite LBT’s
2000 Phalanx MBT’s
2000 Hera MLRS Mobile Rocket Systems
2000 Ares Class Mobile SAM’s

Northern Legion:

7th – 9th Infantry Divisions
400,000 Crucible Warriors
5000 Titan MBT’s
500 Ares Class Mobile SAM’s
7000 Achilles Howitzers
1000 Argo Class Mobile Howitzers

1,200,000 men total

7th Armored Core
10000 Titan MBT’s
1000 Ares Class Mobile SAM’s
3000 Argo Class Mobile Howitzers

Air Units:
These have no where to launch from as of yet, if anyone has airfields for use tell me.

1st – 4th Air Superiority Wings
500 Chimera Air Superiority Fighters
200 Typhon Class Fighter Bombers
Support Aircraft

2nd – 4th Bombing Wings
500 Minotaur Class Bombers
300 Hades Class Attack Aircraft
Support Aircraft

1st Stealth Wing
100 Phoenix Class Stealth Bombers
100 Hyperion Class Stealth Attack Aircraft

1st High Altitude/Stealth
100 Jupiter Class Bombers
20 Guiding Light Class Escort Fighters

Space Weaponry
Vengeance Laser Network – Can explain if you want
20 Gorgon Class Super High Altitude Bombers
5 50/50 Emperor Class Tactical Space Bombers
Anti ICBM Network
Nistolonia
01-11-2005, 01:45
Nistolonia sides with Xirnium, saying the the Kraven Corporation is a godless, dispicable institution, known only for their cruelty to their own citizens and to the citizens of nations who get in their way.
Yallak
01-11-2005, 01:50
Nistolonia sides with Xirnium, saying the the Kraven Corporation is a godless, dispicable institution, known only for their cruelty to their own citizens and to the citizens of nations who get in their way.

Then you have shown that we no longer have need to rid the earth of your nation. You are official removed from our hostile list and the two Nistolonian personel in our custody will be released.
Velkya
01-11-2005, 01:51
Can we be called the Allies?

If so, then there are currently about 6 million Allied combat soldiers, 3000 ships, and hundreds of thousands of vehicles and aircraft comitted to this action.
Jenrak
01-11-2005, 01:53
Remember that the Kraven Corporation has every right to partake in whatever manners they believe so in their own borders, and whatever borders they may capture. Simply asking others to interfere would imply that you are incapable of fighting off an enemy yourself, and that you truly do not deserve it's destruction.
Yallak
01-11-2005, 01:56
Remember that the Kraven Corporation has every right to partake in whatever manners they believe so in their own borders, and whatever borders they may capture. Simply asking others to interfere would imply that you are incapable of fighting off an enemy yourself, and that you truly do not deserve it's destruction.

But the Kraven Corporation cannot attack the Empire and expect no retaliation. If you help Kraven you are helping to defend his imperialistic attacks on my lands and you will suffer his fate.
Xirnium
01-11-2005, 01:56
The Ecclesiarchy is overjoyed with the decision of the Holy War Empire of Nistolonia. We are glad that you have joined this noble crusade against the Kraven beast, and we are thrilled that the unfourtunate yet brief period of conflict between our two peoples so long ago has been put completely to rest. We declare the pure and noble Empire of Nistolonia as one of the great and righteous nations of the world.

Hail Brave Friends of Xirnium!
The High Ecclesiarchy of the Holy Empire of Xirnium
Yallak
01-11-2005, 01:57
Can we be called the Allies?

If so, then there are currently about 6 million Allied combat soldiers, 3000 ships, and hundreds of thousands of vehicles and aircraft comitted to this action.

Yallak can commit 3.8 million combat soldiers at a moments notice, with double that number on standby. As for ships, tanks and planes the numbers are to large to work out now.
Velkya
01-11-2005, 02:07
Heh, make that 10 million, with nearly 8 million on standby.
Xirnium
01-11-2005, 02:13
Open Letter to the Anti-Kraven Alliance

The Corporate Monarchy of Otagia officially decries your senseless posturing. Your hostile outlook merely serves to warn the saner members of the global community of the dangers of religious extremism. Can the nation of Xirnium honestly say that it would not put down a hostile revolt in its own country? Can they claim to refrain from prosecuting violent criminals in their own nation? When the nation of Xirnium ceases its hypocracy, we will listen. But until then, Otagia and Pale Rider Arms shall defend the rights of the Kraven Corporation to police its own borders.

Yours,
Daniel Quetzal,
CEO of Pale Rider Arms
Regent-Elect of Otagia

Ecclesiastical Edict of the High Ecclesiarchy of Holy Xirnium

The High Ecclesiarchy is deeply insulted and rejects the claim of religious extremism. This war has nothing whatsoever to do with religion, but is instead a response to the Kraven Corporation's brutal and disgusting imperialist actions in numerous nations (including our own) and also as a counter to the callous and inhumane genocide that Kraven is perpetrating both against its own people and others. Though the people of Xirnium are deeply devout, religion does not influence foreign policy decisions in the slightest. Instead, outrage at Kraven come from the ingrained ideas of human decency and honour inherent to all civilised ideologies whether they be political, religious, ethical or economic.

The High Ecclesiarchy's second retort to your position regards the myth of a "hostile revolt" in Kraven. There is no such thing. Kraven brutally executes men, women and children, the infrim, pregnant and elderly alike and without mercy in a cruel policy of repression. They work their own citizenry and those of other nations to death in their factories and mines. Their "justice" is arbitrary, heavy-handed and insane.

The final rejection is of any notion of "posturing" by Holy Xirnium. There is none. Though the Ecclesiarchy wrote the words of the pact it did not propose the coalition against the Kraven filth, and has been fighting its own war against Kraven for some time. This alliance did not have its genesis in the calls of Xirnium, but in the righteous indignation of all nations to Kraven's obscene conduct. We are not by any means the leader of this pact, nor a senior member. Instead, all decent and human-rights respecting free nations that join the Allies against Kraven are equal paladins in the quest for justice.

His Emminence Lord High Polkat
Grand Cardinal of the Ecclesiarchy
Holy Paradise
01-11-2005, 02:20
Official Statement of President John Holtz of Holy Paradise
To: The Lord High Grand Cardinals of the most sacred High Ecclesiarchy of Xirnium
Subj: Application for membership in the Anti-Kraven alliance

My country, although capitalist, believes that Kraven must fall. They are a disgrace to you, me, our countries, capitalism, and the entire world. Congress has decided to allow me to send you an application for membership in the Anti-Kraven alliance. I await your reply.
Velkya
01-11-2005, 02:20
OOC: Xirnium, check your TGs.
Velkya
01-11-2005, 02:21
You are clear HP.

Now, do you have any military forces you can commit? If so, list them.
Red Tide2
01-11-2005, 02:22
Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"You know... I find Xirniums arguement funny. He nuked a plot of land that he had sold to the Kraven Corporation, the Kraven Corporation retaliates and begins putting down rebels in its own nations. And the international community jumps all over Kraven. Anywho, we condemn this alliance."
End Statement
Xirnium
01-11-2005, 02:27
Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"You know... I find Xirniums arguement funny. He nuked a plot of land that he had sold to the Kraven Corporation, the Kraven Corporation retaliates and begins putting down rebels in its own nations. And the international community jumps all over Kraven. Anywho, we condemn this alliance."
End Statement

Ecclesiastical Edict of Holy Xirnium

The Grand Cardinals of Holy Xirnium point out that the nuclear device used against the Kraven Corporation destroyed a military target only and that the Kravens were there illegally.

Kraven had demanded that Xirnium ceed its sovereign territory or it would forcibly abduct millions of Xirniumites to be used as expendable slaves in cruel experiments and to be worked to death. Faced with such gangsterism Xirnium had no choice but to temporarily give in to illegal Kraven demands.

Against such disgusting threats, Holy Xirnium was well within its rights to revoke the lease on the land when it saw fit, and to remove the illegal Kraven presence. The annihilation of the military troops there, inhuman clones programed only to kill, was entirely justified.

In any case, Xirnium is but one nation and its crimes were in the past, not ongoing as Kraven's are. Any sins historically commited by Xirnium are Xirnium's alone, and do not reflect on the purity of the campaign against Kraven.
Jenrak
01-11-2005, 02:32
Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"You know... I find Xirniums arguement funny. He nuked a plot of land that he had sold to the Kraven Corporation, the Kraven Corporation retaliates and begins putting down rebels in its own nations. And the international community jumps all over Kraven. Anywho, we condemn this alliance."
End Statement

Xirnium should have the means, if they are incapable, to fight back. You complain of your occupation and your failure, and then how could you have stopped them? It is simple, and all enemies have a weakness. This alliance is pointless, only to aim at destroying an economic power that has clearly thrived much more presumptiously than Xirnium.
Civitas Americae
01-11-2005, 02:33
To the signatories of the Anti-Kraven Alliance,
We congratulate you on your stand against the tyranny and mass murder presented by The Kraven Corporation. We offer you our full cooperation and support in your efforts against them.

His Imperial Majesty,
Paul VII
Velkya
01-11-2005, 02:35
Xirnium should have the means, if they are incapable, to fight back. You complain of your occupation and your failure, and then how could you have stopped them? It is simple, and all enemies have a weakness. This alliance is pointless, only to aim at destroying an economic power that has clearly thrived much more presumptiously than Xirnium.

Actually, we are trying more to free the people that the Corp enslaves and murdurs then destroy it's economic power.

Got any other lies?
Holy Paradise
01-11-2005, 02:35
You are clear HP.

Now, do you have any military forces you can commit? If so, list them.
Official Statement of General Washington of Holy Paradise
To: The leaders of Velkya
Subj: Forces that can be committed
At the present time, the Holy Paradisian government has given me permission to commit to you the following military units:

750,000 Holy Paradisian Army infantrymen

250,000 Holy Paradisian Elite Forces infantrymen

1,500 M-2 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles

1,500 M-1A1 Abrams MBTs

1,000 M-4 Sherman tanks

1,000 M-60 Patton Tanks

4 Nimitz class aircraft carriers, each carrying: 25 F-18 Hornets, 50 F-15E Strike Eagles

20 B-2 Spirit stealth bombers

6 Iowa class battleships

12 Ticonderoga class battleships

25 KIDD class destroyers

We shall commit more if we find it necessary.
Jenrak
01-11-2005, 02:36
But the Kraven Corporation cannot attack the Empire and expect no retaliation. If you help Kraven you are helping to defend his imperialistic attacks on my lands and you will suffer his fate.

Believe what delusions your minds have been tampered with, but I will not tolerate your threats with merely 'you will suffer the same fate'. If that fate is victory, then truly we shall suffer victory.
Velkya
01-11-2005, 02:37
Good, that brings the total Allied Military Force to about 20 million combat strength.

For now, begin training for cold weather operations.
Jenrak
01-11-2005, 02:40
Actually, we are trying more to free the people that the Corp enslaves and murdurs then destroy it's economic power.

Got any other lies?

Only this: billions upon billions of nations are in the world that you cannot be bothered to save, yet live in weak and desolate conditions by dictators easily overthrown. If you are so under much delusion to fight the Kraven Corporation and it's bounty of allies, then you will be taking the knife to the steel heart of the hammer, instead the wooden end of it's handle. Make no mistake; you will lose, even if you should prove to be 'victorious' militaristically. The damage you will do to regain your apt soveriegnty will be far more than what the Kraven Corporation will do, and it will be merely too late.
Semirhage
01-11-2005, 02:40
"The Most Serene Republic of Semirhage announces it's neutrality in this matter between the Anti-Kraven Alliance and Kraven and it's allies (whom are numerous). However the Glorious Republic denounces this Alliance on principle as ill-advised at best.

Kraven I fear shall crush you underfoot."


Prime Designate Sophia Moss
The Most Serene Republic of Semirhage
Favorite Quote- “Terror is only justice that is prompt, severe and inflexible.”- Maximilien Robespierre the Incorruptible
Xirnium
01-11-2005, 02:50
Only this: billions upon billions of nations are in the world that you cannot be bothered to save, yet live in weak and desolate conditions by dictators easily overthrown. If you are so under much delusion to fight the Kraven Corporation and it's bounty of allies, then you will be taking the knife to the steel heart of the hammer, instead the wooden end of it's handle. Make no mistake; you will lose, even if you should prove to be 'victorious' militaristically. The damage you will do to regain your apt soveriegnty will be far more than what the Kraven Corporation will do, and it will be merely too late.
One should always choose to fight the greatest evil, to rally against the worst injustice. To not do so is to surrender that which makes us human.

Kraven I fear shall crush you underfoot."
If it does so it is only because too many of the leaders of nations have not heeded the call of their own conscience. The Ecclesiarchy, for one, refuses to commit such a sin and abandon human beings to cruelty and death.
Velkya
01-11-2005, 02:50
Don't be so sure of Kraven.

Velkya's military is one of the most advanced in the world, and we too have numerous allies.


OOC: Jenrak, lots 'o' typos.
Jenrak
01-11-2005, 02:54
Don't be so sure of Kraven.

Velkya's military is one of the most advanced in the world, and we too have numerous allies.


OOC: Jenrak, lots 'o' typos.

You clearly overestiamte your chances.

OOC: Meh. I wrote them dead-on, no Microsoft Word, and my hand is busted, so I'm justified ;)
Velkya
01-11-2005, 02:57
You clearly underestimate the AKA.

OOC: Billions of nations. Priceless. :D

Also, has the nation of SkyCapt been overrun by Kraven?
Jenrak
01-11-2005, 03:01
You clearly underestimate the AKA.

OOC: Billions of nations. Priceless. :D

Also, has the nation of SkyCapt been overrun by Kraven?

OOC: Nah, I think SkyCapt's been independant on their own.

As for billions, I stated that not out of the number of users (cause clearly there's not), but it's a fairly big world. Even though it's only a bit over a million nations created, it's still fairly large, so yeah.
The Silver Sky
01-11-2005, 03:21
The Armed Capitalist Republic of The Silver Sky finds it self at an impass, while We Buy It Incorporated, the largest corporation in The Silver Sky and more markets throughout the world, wants to destory Kraven and has so for a while, but the government "respects" Kravens right to slaughter and use his own people as slaves, it is only a matter of time before a successful rebellion takes foot.

In short, if Kraven shall ever try to take a foot in an allied nation or one of We Buy It Inc.'s client nations swift and final retribution shall be served. Any Kraven offices in The Silver Sky will be forced to leave and any technology handed over to We Buy It. Inc. should they be discovered.

The Silver Sky neither condemns or supports this alliance, as long as Kraven leaves us we will leave Kraven.

-Kara Maddox
Secretary of State, The Armed Capitalist Republic of The Silver Sky
Yallak
01-11-2005, 03:22
You clearly overestiamte your chances.

And you clearly overrate Kraven.
Xirnium
01-11-2005, 03:26
Can we be called the Allies?

Personally, I think this would be a good way to shorten the Anti-Kraven Alliance.

[OCC: Have to go now, good-luck ;) ]
Jenrak
01-11-2005, 03:34
And you clearly overrate Kraven.

Oh really? And what makes you believe you are superior? Are you an enemy bred for war? Have you grown up to become a fighting machine? Whom do you think would have more experience in the art of war? A power-hungry, economically based, violent corporation, or a nation whom believes the preaching of the safety of people?
Velkya
01-11-2005, 03:52
Velkya itself is a union of 4 states that have been warring since before the word corparation was invented.

Plus, Yallak's more then 3 times the size of the KC. So that obviously gives him an advantage.
Saint Fedski
01-11-2005, 04:04
Unforunately, The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski will not sign the agreement. However, the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski will support any action militarily providing a complete breakdown in dimplomacy has taken place.

Your's truly,
Louis Riel, Vice Chairman, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski
Velkya
01-11-2005, 04:06
Of course. Thank you for your semi-support anyhow.
Khurgan
01-11-2005, 04:24
Velkya itself is a union of 4 states that have been warring since before the word corparation was invented.

Plus, Yallak's more then 3 times the size of the KC. So that obviously gives him an advantage.
OOC: And between me, Jenrak and Kraven, we outnumber both of you combined, with two of us using genetically engineered super soldiers, as well as having demonstratably low morals. I alone also outspend Yallak in the defense department by over 17 trillion USD. So what's your point?
Saint Fedski
01-11-2005, 04:34
To: The Anti-Karaven Alliance
From: The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski
Re: Combat

As Kahanistan and Xirnium know, we consider them amongst the closest of allies and would support whatever they decide to do as they have supported us in the past and currently support our action in the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski. It is without a doubt that if just one of their men is killed in combat with Kraven, the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski will be right there to help them out. Our forces preparing for this action consist of II Corps, III Corps, ten Quickbreaker Class Aircraft Carriers and their onboard forces, two more QB carriers converted to hospital ships, five Vitorio Venete class cruisers, ten Halifax Class Frigates, and as many logistical ships that can be provided.
The amount of Aircraft from the air force has yet to be determined.

Your's truly,
Madam Robynne Hay, Minister of Defence, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski
Velkya
01-11-2005, 04:38
OOC: Your not swaying us, either way.
Khurgan
01-11-2005, 04:40
OOC: Your not swaying us, either way.

OOC: Why would I want to? I want to try out some of my toys. I've only really tried out one of my bioweapons, I'd love a chance to cause some havoc with the rest of them.
Velkya
01-11-2005, 04:45
OOC:Actually, how can you have a budget 17 trillion dollars more than Yallak when he is more than 10 times your size, and you only only have 2.4 trillion?

On a side note, what kind of bioweapons are these, since I'll only agree to those within a PMT timeline.
Civitas Americae
01-11-2005, 04:51
OOC: Why would I want to? I want to try out some of my toys. I've only really tried out one of my bioweapons, I'd love a chance to cause some havoc with the rest of them.

FYI, use of bioweapons means that you end up with nukes coming your way.
Velkya
01-11-2005, 04:53
He brings up a strong point. Kraven has already said WMDs are banned from the RP, however, so might want to clear it with him.
Khurgan
01-11-2005, 04:59
OOC:Actually, how can you have a budget 17 trillion dollars more than Yallak when he is more than 10 times your size, and you only only have 2.4 trillion?

On a side note, what kind of bioweapons are these, since I'll only agree to those within a PMT timeline.

OOC: Shit, wrong account. Sorry about the confusion, this should be posted as Otagia. For some reason the damn thing isn't logging me in and out properly.

http://nstracker.retrogade.com/index.php?nation=otagia&nation2=yallak&nation3=&nation4=&nation5=&nation6=

Bioweapons are contained on the PRA: Creative Weapons storefront, although I'm much more likely to use chemical weapons. As for using nukes as a response, don't you think that's a bit overkill? I mean, they're rather easy to contain, and aren't that much more effective than napalm, and I rarely see nukes as a response to napalm. It's more of a doctrinal difference than anything else.
Civitas Americae
01-11-2005, 05:02
As for using nukes as a response, don't you think that's a bit overkill?

No.
Velkya
01-11-2005, 05:07
OOC: You both have massive budgets at any rate. In addition, we still have a solid shot at taking you down, no matter what.

Outside of that, I never said anything about launching nukes, and my troops are equipped with NBC gear anyways, so they wouldn't have much of an effect.

Can you send me a link to the Creative Weapons thread, the forum search won't work on my comp.
Otagia
01-11-2005, 05:08
No.
Now, that's a bit closed minded of you. How is a nuke, capable of levelling a superdreadnought, on the same level as a simple biochemical agent that causes anything living to start excreting vast amounts of pure phosphorous (with the slight side effect of death)? Or a simple genetically engineered bacterium that produces BZ gas? None of these even remotely justify a nuke. Look at what I'm planning to use before busting out the "OMG I n00kz J00z!!!1!one!1!"

And the link to PRA:CWD (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440552)
Saint Fedski
01-11-2005, 05:09
All of those kinds of weapons are overkill in my opinion. They take the fun out of commanding troops and using strategy. It's alright to state you have them because it makes you look powerful, which is good and I don't mind, but actually using them is just kind of low in my opinion. There's probably another thread to discuss this in so let's not hijack this thread anymore.
The Infinite Crucible
01-11-2005, 05:10
No.

I must agree. Kraven stated no WMD's, so I dont think anyone should use bio, chemical, or nuclear weapons. All are considered to be at the same level. As such any use will entail a nuclear response.
Civitas Americae
01-11-2005, 05:11
Now, that's a bit closed minded of you. How is a nuke, capable of levelling a superdreadnought, on the same level as a simple biochemical agent that causes anything living to start excreting vast amounts of pure phosphorous (with the slight side effect of death)? Or a simple genetically engineered bacterium that produces BZ gas? None of these even remotely justify a nuke. Look at what I'm planning to use before busting out the "OMG I n00kz J00z!!!1!one!1!"

That's nice. We're still going to nuke you if you try using bioweapons. We really do not care what you're planning to use. Bioweapons result in a nuclear response. End of story.
Otagia
01-11-2005, 05:12
I must agree. Kraven stated no WMD's, so I dont think anyone should use bio, chemical, or nuclear weapons. All are considered to be at the same level. As such any use will entail a nuclear response.
OOC: OK, will change to using phospho-enhanced covert incendiary weapons.
The Infinite Crucible
01-11-2005, 05:15
OOC: OK, will change to using phospho-enhanced covert incendiary weapons.

Fine by me. I think most people have problems with them due to the inhuman nature of them, and while that is fine as an RP aspect many are touchy about it. Additionally since they are called WMD's, at least by the US, the association with nukes is already there. Now if you really want some creative weapons, talk to me about... dun dun dun ecological warfare. Dont think you will see any of it in this RP, as his country is a bit to extreme for it to work out.

Edit: Now I know you guys have some extreme budgets, but understand how much more a genetic soldier will cost than a normal one. So your numbers will be smaller. I think a US soldier is 100 grand a year per man, or something like that... A genetic soldier would be much more than that and they are never going to... un-enlist unless killed.
Otagia
01-11-2005, 05:18
Fine by me. I think most people have problems with them due to the inhuman nature of them, and while that is fine as an RP aspect many are touchy about it. Additionally since they are called WMD's, at least by the US, the association with nukes is already there. Now if you really want some creative weapons, talk to me about... dun dun dun ecological warfare. Dont think you will see any of it in this RP, as his country is a bit to extreme for it to work out.

OOC: Define ecological warfare. Technically, the phospho-enhanced covert incendiary weapons ARE ecological warfare, as they seep into plants and the ground, turning areas into virtually undetectable napalm mine fields, but I'm not sure that's what you meant.
Velkya
01-11-2005, 05:20
Hey, I have Orbital Rod Cannons, he's got napalm minefields. We all have some kick ass tech.
The Infinite Crucible
01-11-2005, 05:21
OOC: Define ecological warfare. Technically, the phospho-enhanced covert incendiary weapons ARE ecological warfare, as they seep into plants and the ground, turning areas into virtually undetectable napalm mine fields, but I'm not sure that's what you meant.

Oh, well I wont be using any of it in this war, but ecological warfare uses plants, animals, and even the enviorment at times to make life hell for your enemy. For example, shells filled with genetically enhanced bullet ants. Even before modification a bite litterally feels like being shot and the poison they inject can be very dangerous in high doses. Enhance the poison and the ants tenacity and you have a very nasty thing to fire into enemy positions. Even harder than bio warfare to control though.
Velkya
01-11-2005, 05:23
Oh, well I wont be using any of it in this war, but ecological warfare uses plants, animals, and even the enviorment at times to make life hell for your enemy. For example, shells filled with genetically enhanced bullet ants. Even before modification a bite litterally feels like being shot and the poison they inject can be very dangerous in high doses. Enhance the poison and the ants tenacity and you have a very nasty thing to fire into enemy positions. Even harder than bio warfare to control though.

Not for the Orkin Man. :D
The Infinite Crucible
01-11-2005, 05:23
Hey, I have Orbital Rod Cannons, he's got napalm minefields. We all have some kick ass tech.

Wait, we should clear that tech with kraven as well. It is highly probable that is considered us of WMD's as well.
The Infinite Crucible
01-11-2005, 05:25
Not for the Orkin Man. :D

LOL, but even that has problems. Not many people bring pesticides to the front line and any effective eradication wold expose you to enemy fire. Also with genetic enhancements, PMT only, they could be resistant.
Xirnium
01-11-2005, 05:25
Highest level encryption Alpha-1

To: The Anti-Kraven Alliance
From: His most sacred High Ecclesiarchy of Holy Xirnium

Re: Biological Warfare.

The following is a transcript of a message received from the Grand Master of the Scientist-Priests of our nation, which have succeeded in creating a powerful virus, stolen from the Kraven Corporation. We are currently manufacturing it, but of course our industrial capability is nowhere near as large as the more powerful members of the Allies. Therefore, we are sending you the details of the weapon, so that if you wish you may also manufacture it and so that we can have a grave deterrent to biological warfare from the foul Kraven scum. Perhaps the fear of having his own weapons turned against him will compel the Kraven demon not to use biological weapons.

The Ecclesiarchy does not consider such sinful methods as WMD warfare an option for combat, however we do feel the need to have a counter should it be waged against us.

In any case, here is the message:


To: The High Ecclesiarchy
From: The Knights of the Order of the Hospital of Saint Fritax (Scientist-Priests)

My lords,

Our attempts to reverse engineer stocks of the Smith KCI Kraven bioweapon captured during the course of our still ongoing war with the Kraven beast, pursuant to your orders ( http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9758534&postcount=148 ), have finally proven successful.

The cost of this operation have been frightfully high, both in monetary terms and in the butchers bill (many thousands of our order have perished in their long crusade to reverse-engineer the virus).

The secrets of the weapon have finally been unlocked, and the following can be produced in industrial quantities immediately:

The Arcturus Strain:

This bacteriological strain is designed to combat the anti-biological WMD capabilities of enemies. It works by breaking down the plastics and rubbers of protective clothing and masks. It takes roughly 30-40 minutes for the colonies of bacteria to become sufficiently large enough to break down the safety apparatus. It is extremely difficult to detect.

The Heims Symphonia Strain:

This is a particularly virulent strain, which attacks the delicate blood vessels of the lungs causing huge internal hemorrhaging leading to death usually within 1 or 2 hours.

As your Eminences were aware, we did not recover the Orion Bacteriophage strain from the Kraven terrorists, which is designed to combat the bioweapon in order to make the area safe for friendly troops following its use. Therefore I must report that we have not yet succeeded in synthesizing any counter to this weapon.

Lord Orinus
Grand Master of the Knights of the Order of the Hospital of Saint Fritax


Technical details of the reverse-engineered Smith KCI Kraven bioweapon have been sent in the accompanying attachment. May we never be forced to use it.

Lord High Iridium
Grand Cardinal of the Ecclesiarchy



[OCC: Let me point I cetainly don’t want to claim OCC ownership of this weapon, I just stole it ICly from Kraven during the war. The intellectual property is all his. The original details of the weapon (OCC, of course) are located at Kraven’s thread here http://honiralpa.myfreeforum.org/ftopic10.php Kraven’s mercenary allies entered my nation a while ago with this weapon and several were captured in their canisters. Since then, I have been trying to reverse-engineer it.]
Velkya
01-11-2005, 05:26
Not really. Think of them as SABOT rounds, except they travel very fast and are about 5 meters long.
Otagia
01-11-2005, 05:28
Hey, I have Orbital Rod Cannons, he's got napalm minefields. We all have some kick ass tech.
THOR projectiles count as WMDs, I believe. They'd probably be right out.


Oh, well I wont be using any of it in this war, but ecological warfare uses plants, animals, and even the enviorment at times to make life hell for your enemy. For example, shells filled with genetically enhanced bullet ants. Even before modification a bite litterally feels like being shot and the poison they inject can be very dangerous in high doses. Enhance the poison and the ants tenacity and you have a very nasty thing to fire into enemy positions. Even harder than bio warfare to control though.

Ah, I do have those, but the problem is that my eco-warfare is in the early stages, with some limited mobility spiders and selectively unfriendly snakes.


Edit: Now I know you guys have some extreme budgets, but understand how much more a genetic soldier will cost than a normal one. So your numbers will be smaller. I think a US soldier is 100 grand a year per man, or something like that... A genetic soldier would be much more than that and they are never going to... un-enlist unless killed.

Not really true. Simply come up with a nice retrovirus once and all you have to do is breed it until you have enough. The development is the most expensive part, the rest is essentially a safer biological equivalent of steroids. Breeding virii is cheap, all you need is a nice food source for it. And add in the fact that my genetically improved troops (Red Samurai) are soldiers for life and you have a very reasonable investment.
Saint Fedski
01-11-2005, 05:32
Hey everybody, if you haven't noticed, this has gotten quite off topic. This is meant for discussing membership to the Anti-Kraven Alliance, not the merits or humanity of certain weapons. I motion that we move this conversation to a new thread if we want it to continue. I would consider this thread hijacking somewhat, but that's just my opinion.
Velkya
01-11-2005, 05:33
The great thing is that a iron bomb or a ATGM doesn't really care whether or not the enemy is genetically enhanced.
The Infinite Crucible
01-11-2005, 05:41
Ok guys now is as good a time as any to present my game plan. All of this is very secret IC and OOC and therefore do not use knowledge of it to gain an advantage. However, if you see any flaws based off of faulty knowledge of Kraven or whatever, feel free to point them out to avoid problems in the future.

Ok, the way I see it is, that Kraven's army and his allies army are extremely strong. It would be very difficult to defeat them, especially with the defense advantage. We need air superiority and naval superiority.

Step 1
Establish air superiority on the seas surrounding Kraven via any means necessary. Consider fortifying the ice for use as a runway and using lots of carriers. Set up SAM batteries on the ice as well and make sure we have a safe zone to opperate in around his nation. This will be a test of metal, but with Kraven spending a lot of his cash on super soldiers and a truly fearsome ground force, this should not be "too" hard.

Step 2
Remove major naval costal threats. I.E. thos big ass cannons of his. This once again wont be hard. I plan on using an advanced missile based off of the MT hibex. It would accelerate to 400-500g's before impact and use a thermite warhead. Needless to say, something going that fast with temperatures at 5000 degrees F will cook off the rounds in those cannons, and failing that take it out of action for a long time.

Step 3
So we can now move around with reletive naval and air ease outside of his nation. We need to take care of his navy. This would be hard due to the miles of ice between the fleets. Well its time to make good use of out subs and UAV's. Combined with missile strikes his docked navy should fall pretty fast.

Step 4
Establish overall air superiority. Hit his AA sites and runways with missile strikes and anything else we have. Then bring in the fighters.

Step 5
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb
Weaken his army, we can no take it one on one. His army is stronger than ours, it is as simple as that. Equally simple however, is that with all that funding going to the basic troup, we should be able to take out his navy and air force with ease. Kraven, please understand, you have limitations.

Step 6
Invade. If all has gone to plan we should have a victory over him, but it will cost a lot in the phase.

Other things: We need nations to hold his aid at bay. For example Otagia. His soldiers are amazing. This will once again have a detrimental effect on his navy. Intercept it and make sure those gound troups are at the bottom of the sea. Now nothing goes this well when the shit hits the fan, but this is my plan. What do you think?
Saint Fedski
01-11-2005, 05:53
That is a good plan. I forget where it was where I announced the forces I'd be deploying but I will provide my Naval Air Force (that is, aircraft from my carriers). I can also provide logisitics such as inflight refueling, cargo and troop transportation and medevacs from the Logisitcal Command of my Air Force.
Axis Nova
01-11-2005, 05:53
Communique, Axis Nova Foreign Ministry

Axis Nova views this entire motely lot with contempt. Bretton and Axis Nova and Kraven alone possess more military power than the lot of you.

Come all at once in a turtle or singly, one by one, it matters not. Your bodies will carpet the sea bottom around Kraven Corp's territory should you be foolish enough to attack.
Civitas Americae
01-11-2005, 05:54
We can help quite a good deal with the elimination of naval threats, both of Kraven and their allies. Our Strategic Support Squadrons pack a rather large standoff punch.
The Infinite Crucible
01-11-2005, 06:04
Guys we are going to need some larger allies for this. With even more foes joining we need some heavy heavy hitters. Amazing tactics could win us the day, but its always nice to have a backup.

...

Although... something just hit me. Let me sleep on it, g'night
Praetoria Novus
01-11-2005, 06:39
Official Government Communiqué

From: The Senate of the Republic of Praetoria Novus
To: The Anti-Kraven Alliance

The Senate of the Republic of Praetoria Novus has, for some time, watched with increasing concern the escalating situation developing regarding the Kraven Corporation. While all of Praetoria Novus has been shocked and disgusted at the genocide being committed at this very moment in Kraven (being a liberal democratic nation with a long tradition of holding individual civil rights as sacrosanct), it has never been the policy of the Senate to interfere with the internal affairs of sovereign nations. Therefore, until now the Republican Senate has refrained from criticising Kraven’s actions.

The latest attack, however, by one of Kraven’s allies has forced the Senate to reconsider. We are now inclined to believe Xirnium’s claims that neither the Kraven Corporation nor their allies consider the sovereignty of nations as a concept that must be respected, as evidenced by the wilful destruction of your satellite network. The Republican Senate of Praetoria Novus considers the doctrine of sovereignty to be supreme, and can remain neutral no longer. The Kraven Alliance has acted like a group of gangsters, and if they are not stopped who knows which nation might fall prey to them next?

The Rouge Nations Act (1939) has been amended at s 19 to declare the Kraven Corporation and their allies as a “Class-A threat to the safety and security of the Republic and Senate of Praetoria Novus”. The Senate shall also sign and join the Anti-Kraven Alliance and will immediately enact legislation entitled the Anti-Kraven Alliance Act (2005), in order to join the defensive alliance against Kraven aggression.

[Signed]
Senator Urbunus Postimus Victorinus
Prime Minister of the Senate of the Republic of Praetoria Novus
Southeastasia
01-11-2005, 09:02
TO: All Members of the Anti-Kraven Alliance
FROM: Yao Yang Nelson Neo, Prime Minister the United Sovereign Nations of Southeastasia
RE: Anti-Kraven Alliance Founder is Hypocritical

While I, like the most of my people, despise the Kraven Corporation for its human rights record and the fact they backed an enemy (namely, the Federation of Joint Conglomerates) of our nation, the Southeast Asian people and the rest of the cabinet laugh at the states that applied for membership. Also, since our armed forces are tied up in the conflict, we shall not divert any forces to declaring war on this petty treaty organization. Let me put this in bullet-point form for you to read easier:

Do you realize that Xirnium is a corrupt theocracy?
Do you realize that the leader of Xirnium is psychotic and....
that he planned to use nuclear weapons on his own followers?
Do you realize, that there are a lot more neutral parties, that are LAUGHING their heads off?
And lastly, I'm glad at the fact there are more anti-corporatist nations around, but I'm upset that they (or more specifically, their LEADERS) don't have common sense?


Please reconsider your decisions. Thank you.

Sincerely,
His Leadership,
Prime Minister of the United Sovereign Nations of Southeastasia
Yao Yang Nelson Neo
Xirnium
01-11-2005, 09:22
Open Responce to The United Sovereign Nations of Southeastasia

Xirnium does not consider itself the founder of this alliance, nor is such a statement factually true. Xirnium is but one member of this alliance, and not even the nation which first proposed it.

The High Ecclesiarchy also neither considers itself psychotic nor corrupt, and we do not think you can find a single instance to support such a belief. The Grand Cardinals of the Ecclesiarchy do not disagree that Holy Xirnium has in the past commited unspeakable outrages, and we have never denied that fact. Holy Xirnium has and is improving its human rights record by leaps and bounds. Its past transgressions are nothing more than fixtures of the past.

The rest of your points are irrelevant. We only regret that a nation which claims to hold dear human rights and to despise Kraven has not seen fit to join the Anti-Kraven Alliance.

Lord High Vertok
Grand Cardinal of the High Ecclesiarchy
Holy Paradise
01-11-2005, 22:20
Everyone, I have decided I will be the one to declare war on Kraven. He is okay with it, but asks that you guys okay it too.
Dweladelfia prime
01-11-2005, 22:29
To All Members of the Anti-Kraven Alliance

The Christain Empire of Dweladelfia Prime has seen war with the Kraven Corporation. We of the Empire would like to join this allience.

[Signed]
President Fredrick
Of Dweladelfia Prime.

[Signed]
Vice-President Dan C.
Civitas Americae
01-11-2005, 23:28
Everyone, I have decided I will be the one to declare war on Kraven. He is okay with it, but asks that you guys okay it too.

I'm fine with that.
Holy Paradise
01-11-2005, 23:36
War on Kraven thread started.
Altronia
02-11-2005, 00:50
The Republic of Altronia has seen this "Kraven" and has actually accepted this foe as a threat. The nation has their first and third army deployed as we speak. General Bruce Carter is in command of these forces. Three hundred thousand men each this forces should serve you well in this war, and I hope that this coalition can and will become allies in the near future. For Peace, Prosperity, and Altronia.


Tyler Roosevelt

Commander and Chief of the The Republic of Altronia
Yallak
02-11-2005, 02:58
To All Members of the Anti-Kraven Alliance

The Christain Empire of Dweladelfia Prime has seen war with the Kraven Corporation. We of the Empire would like to join this allience.

[Signed]
President Fredrick
Of Dweladelfia Prime.

[Signed]
Vice-President Dan C.

The Infinite Empire extends its gratitude to our most noble allies in Dweladelfia Prime for their swift response to this threat.

Balor, Emperor of Yallak
Yallak
02-11-2005, 03:36
Oh really? And what makes you believe you are superior? Are you an enemy bred for war? Have you grown up to become a fighting machine? Whom do you think would have more experience in the art of war? A power-hungry, economically based, violent corporation, or a nation whom believes the preaching of the safety of people?

We laugh at your pathetic attempts to sound intelligible. Know your enemy – ever heard that saying. Our nation is bent upon the advancement of military technology and long have we ruled over our Empire, forged through war.
The only people we care about are our citizens – Kravens civil rights are of no concern to us – his attack on our lands however are.
Yallak
02-11-2005, 03:40
OOC: And between me, Jenrak and Kraven, we outnumber both of you combined, with two of us using genetically engineered super soldiers, as well as having demonstratably low morals. I alone also outspend Yallak in the defense department by over 17 trillion USD. So what's your point?

Hello. You have a defence budget of $382,958,641,406.25 (28% of GDP)
Yallak has a defence budget of $14,047,344,481,282.56 (18% of GDP)

I think someone is very delusional in their claims.

I alone also outspend Yallak in the defense department by over 17 trillion USD

You DON'T even have a defence budget in the Trillions. NOT even half a trillion.
Velkya
02-11-2005, 04:22
Check Otagia, thats who Khurgan really is.
Yallak
02-11-2005, 04:32
In that case he does outspend me. But it still matters not - for their is no army better equiped than the forces of the Empire. And i do not stand alone.
Novacom
02-11-2005, 14:02
The top of this message is in a language never seen before and of which none can read possibly Novacom Caligraphs.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/novacom.jpg
Message from Novacom

ATTN: Xirnium
Subject: Anti-Kraven Alliance

We of Novacom wish to join you and the alliance and stand together against the Kraven, they who know no respect for territorial borders waters or sovereignty, furthermore the tennets of the treaty are soon to be ratified and signed into law and may be combined with the NTEF (Novacom Treaty of Eternal Freedom) Directive.

The Letter is signed in the same indecipherable Novan Caligraphs by a Long list of people, under each are the names and title of the 12 strong Novacom Council of ministers and finally Suprainister Danteth Tolion.
Kahanistan
03-11-2005, 08:52
May as well bump it, we can always use new allies.
Saint Fedski
04-11-2005, 14:04
Secret IC:

To: The members of the AKA
From: The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

Pending successful testing of our new "device", they shall be transferred to Xirnium for use against Kraven. Also, regarding this "device" the members of the AKA are invited to send a delegation to Sarnia in order to view the demonstration. Naval personnel would be the best bet, but any military or political or scientific delegation should suffice.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=451992

[signed] Madam Robynne Hay, Minister of Defence, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski
Saint Fedski
04-11-2005, 14:37
The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski changes its mind. Instead of being an unsigned member, we wish to sign the agreement.

Chairman Girardi
Xirnium
04-11-2005, 14:58
OCC: Updated
Xirnium
05-11-2005, 01:57
Diplomatic Ecclesiastical Edict

To: The Anti-Kraven Alliance
From: The High Ecclesiarchy of Holy Xirnium

As you must all be aware by now, moments ago the world learnt of horrific practises ( http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9883891&postcount=121) being conducted in Kraven. A Xirniumite specops team of classified nature infiltrated (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9883495&postcount=119) Kravonika and a massive birthing facility located there, used to industrially produce Capital Police.

Undoubtedly you were as shocked as the High Ecclesiarchy to discover that previously fully alive humans are used in the facility, mutilated and mechanically attached to machines whereby they are used to give birth to Kraven troops until they expire and are disposed of.

If ever there was a time for solidarity within our just movement, it is now. Hopefully following these obscene revelations more nations will see fit to join our noble alliance, and nations allied to Kraven will finally perceive the monstrocity of the regime they support.

Lord High Nidor
Grand Cardinal and Chief Minister of the High Ecclesiarchy
Mirkana
10-11-2005, 03:15
Mirkana has never liked the policies of the Kraven Corporation, but as a relatively small nation, there is little we can do about it.

However, if we have allies, we CAN do something about it.

Mirkana formally wishes to join the Anti-Kraven Alliance.

General Ken Remmol, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Republic of Mirkana
The Infinite Crucible
10-11-2005, 03:19
While we thank Mirkana for the interest, we are currently in negotiations, and one of the terms is disbandment of the AKA. So we must turn down your membership.
Xirnium
10-11-2005, 05:28
With respect, but the AKA is a defensive alliance that may be joined by anyone who fears the menace of the Kraven Corperation. Your refusing Mirkana admission could be construed as violation of Article II of the treaty, and as such may be grounds for expulsion. If your nation wishes to leave the treaty it is your right, but you do not have the authority to disband it, no single nation does. Indeed, as long as even a single nation considers itself bound by the terms of the treaty it will live on.

Lady Justice Galdria
Kahanistan
20-11-2005, 03:10
The Government of Kahanistan moves to suggest that the AKA adopt a policy that no AKA member may attack another. This is aimed specifically at the conflict between Yallak and St. Fedski, but in general we can't be fighting amongst ourselves while Armageddon is taking place.
Yallak
23-11-2005, 16:15
The Empire has beaten the Kraven Corporation in its fould attempts to overrun one of our allies and has destroyed one of its allies to make the point clear. Thus our business with Kraven is over.
The Infinite Empire of Yallak hereby withdraws from the AKA, effective immediately.