NationStates Jolt Archive

Greetings, sentients. I've been playing far too much Close Combat 5 this past week than is healthy, and the idea has popped into my head that a new Earth might be popular. I'm not going to go on an ego-trip and claim that it pwnz all the other Earths, nor am I going to do everything myself because that would be impossible.

I speak of Earth 1938.

1938 is a good year for 30's - 40's tech because WWII hasn't happened, and it's lessons have not yet been learnt. Sloped armour is a concept barely touched upon, and the average infantryman still carries a bolt-action rifle. Calibers have not passed the 90mm mark, and most tanks stop at 37mm or 50mm.

I don't want a 'You be the US, I'll be Britain and the guy we don't like can be Germany' rp, I want NSEarth 1938. It doesn't have to tie in with your timeline, but if you want it to then that's great. What we need right now are a few experienced players, who are prepared to put some time and effort into re-crafting their nations for the purpose of this rp. Mostly I'm doing this for the military aspect, as I love WWII tanks/guns/etc, and I would love it if everyone did their own personalised tech rather than using era stuff. In my idea world we would have a forum of our own on LineartInc, and post up new tanks and rifles at a rate of knots.

Anyway, that's the concept, and this is the sign up. Let's have some interest.

PARTICIPANTS
Verghastinsel (Germany, Denmark, Switzerland.) Die Republik von Verghastinsel - 76.07m
Tadjikistan (Ukraine, Russian Caucasus territory south of Stalingrad [Volgograd] and west of the Volga river (http://www.gl.iit.edu/govdocs/maps/Caucasus%20and%20Central%20Asia.gif).) The Republic of Tadjikistan
Jagonia (England, Scotland, Wales, Netherlands, Belgium.) Britannia-Benelux Federation
Lachenburg (Sweden, Norway.)
Mekugi (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Kalingrad Oblast.)
Yukatania (Greece, Crete, Macedonia, Albania.) Greater Mediterranean Alliance
Jensai (Romania, Hungary, Czechoslovakia.) Eastern European Union
Rodenka (France.)
Florida Oranges (Florida.) The Republic of Florida
Philanchez (Peru, Colombia, Bolivia, Ecuador.) República Imperial de Gran Colombia
Zackaroth (Cuba, Jamaica, Bahamas [Andros, Little Inagua and Greater Inagua only].) República de Cuba
Jagada (TX, OK, AR, MO, LA, MS, TN, AL, GA, SC, NC, WV, VA) Confederate States of America
Sarzonia (HI, AK, CA, OR, WA, NV, ID, AZ, UT, MT, NM, WY, CL, ND, SD, NE. KS, IA, MN, IL, WI, IN, MI, KY, OH, PA, MD, NY, NJ, VT, CT, NH, MA, ME.) United States of America
USSNA (Spain, Portugal, Morroco.) Federación Española
Lankuria (Poland, Belarus.) Славная республика Slavicia (Glorious Republic of Slavicia)
Dyik Raah (Egypt, Libya.) Imperium Cugrandae
Kaiser Martens (Austria, Slovenia, Croatia.) Die Martens Kaiserreich 18.5m
Soviet Sovereignty (Northern Russia.) Народы Советский Союз

NSEarth 1938 - WORLD MAP (It is beautiful, is it not?)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/Verghastinsel/EARTH1938.png

I understand that the participants 'd be using their own nation, does that mean, with their current population or does that have certain restrictions?

I'm definitly interested in the whole idea, I like the tech and tactics of this period and I would like to participate If you think I'm good enough for it.

And what will the limitation on tech be? Because 75mm guns have already been used in tanks by that period, in fact a BT-7 received a shortbarrelled 76.2mm in 1938. If its just a "Rawr-I-am-the-best-and-I-beat-you" RP then I'm not interested at all, I dont want competitive RP.

Population: Population-wise, we'll be taking chunks out of Earth itself and calling that our nations. If you want to claim, for example; Belgium, Holland and a few chunks of northern France, then you go and find the relevant sites and see what the census says for those areas in 1938. All native attributes other than colour are negated, replaced by the language and culture of the player's nation.

Tech: It'll be limited to that of the time. If we progress at all then I will not allow any tank to carry a gun firing anything over 90mm, seeing as the Tiger itself only had an 88mm in '45. I realise that 75mm+ had been used by '38, but the majority of nations were unprepared for modern armoured warfare at the time. For example; The first German tank to use a 75mm gun was the Panzer IV. The PzKpfw I only carried a pair of 7.92mm MG13s, the PzKpfw II carried a 20mm self-loader, and the PzKpfw III only used a 50mm main gun (37mm was offered but rejected. The Germans wanted a 'Superior' calibre). Germany's first 75mm was the Stug III, of 1935. Bear in mind that they were spending a HELL of a lot of money on new designs, and most nations at the time were happy with 37mm - 50mm because they didn't want to spend a load of money on reequipping their entire armies.

Rawr: No, this is just International Incidents in '38. Trade, build, hope, dream, kill. It's everything, and if it goes well then the rp will never end. Of course there will be times when Rawr is applicable, but there is in II as well.

I don't want to destroy this or take anything away, but I am already doing a WWII RP from 1936 with pretty much the same idea.

Ah, but I notice that yours is using Earth nations of the time. This is using the player's own nation, which many find preferable.

i know, i just realized that. Sowwy...:(

I'd be interested in this.

I have to admit, I am a bit of a WWII military obssessive as well.

Should we claim lands + stuff now, or wait for more people.

Sorry for taking so long, I was forced into the shower so that mum could clean the bathroom.

Claim away, but nothing bigger than Poland, unless we're left with big open spaces by the time we have a lot of players. I claim Germany, Denmark and Switzerland.

Hmmm... Could I take Great Britain (not Ireland), the Netherlands and Belgium?

Yup. I'll put territory by the names on post #1.

Verghastinsel, do you actually live in Bognor Regis? If you do, I'm sorry.

I keep my curtains closed, and try to think of other things.

lol. Raining today?

Overcast.

It's the same in London.

Big
Ungainly
Mega
Panzers

I made t3h Panzar. Looky.

http://s13.invisionfree.com/LineartInc/index.php?showtopic=488

Although I'm not quite sure how this claim system works, I am nonetheless interested in the RP.

If you do not mind, I will claim Denmark, Sweden and Norway. If this is too large a claim, then just leave it as Norway and Denmark.

For all future claimants, please take a look at the already claimed areas listed on the first post.

Denmark is already taken, but t'others are not. Welcome to 1938.

bah... I already have a 40's-ish plane (though in not sure if it s too advanced) drawn and colored, but I was kinda planing on doing the Forgotten Campaign thing that was a bit later tech wise... bah

Im at a cross roads here... this does offer a bit mroe flexibility for my schedule than my other plans... hmm...

It'd be great if you played, Mekugi. It'd ensure some brilliant '38 lineart :D

Anyway, you do what you want.

Alright im in, I've been looking for a use of my Copperhead for awhile. Checking it all the plans it was based upon began flying in '36-'39 so I suppose its about perfect actually...

I'll have a claim ready in a few

I looked on the Aircraft forum but couldn't see any 'Copperhead' thing. Did you post it?

I looked on the Aircraft forum but couldn't see any 'Copperhead' thing. Did you post it? Page 3 of Stingray AF/B I'll repost it with proper stats and all a bit later.

As for a claim how does Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania sound, with the Kalingrad Oblast thorwn in for good measure sound? Its a bit smaller (quite a bit actually) than poland but I prefer it that way.

I would like to claime Greece, Crete, Mecedonia, and Albania to Form the Greater Mediterianian Alliance. I think this is going to be very interesting since no Personal Automatic Weapons and on how Aviation is just starting to be a big Military and Commercialy product.

There were actually quite a few Personal Automatic weapons in Circulation in 1938, they werent all fit for front line deployment (though semi-automatic rifles were fielded by some at the time) and certainly there were many designs (not necessarily militarily adopted) but they did most certinaly exist... and in a Non RL centric concept I wouldnt be suprised if Some automatic weapons showed up... now not assualt rifles, but SMGs would be prevalint, Semi-automatic pistols would be rather common, and the smaller richer states would probably field some form of semi-automatic rifle, though thats personal prefference and yet to be seen.

I'd like Romania, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia as the Eastern European Union.

I did mean Battlefront Assault Weapons, but I see where your coming from on that.

Submachineguns were in existence in '38, yes, but apart from specialised units (Fallschirmjäger, etc.) they were barely used. Those in existence at the time were almost all based upon the Bergmann MP18 (http://www.firstworldwar.com/atoz/mgun_mp18.htm), with steel workings but still with wooden stocks. It was only towards the end of the war - with easily mass-produced all-steel weapons - that regular units were equipped with automatics.

Jensai and Yukatania added.

you mean besides the Thompson M1928, the Steyr-Solothurn (S1-100), the MP-38, the Suomi M/1931, the MAS M1938, the ZK 383, the PPD-1934/38, And the bereta automatico Modello 1938A?

And just for the sake of lists, the Autoloading Rifles of the Period;
The Garand, SVT-38 Tokarev, AVS-36 Siminov, ZH-29, and thats not counting designs that never made it into production due to lack of funding and had to wait till the end of WWII to be produced like the FN FAM-49.

Interested! can I have France, Belgium, and Holland?

Belgiums already been claimed.

you mean besides the Thompson M1928, the Steyr-Solothurn (S1-100), the MP-38, the Suomi M/1931, the MAS M1938, the ZK 383, the PPD-1934/38, And the bereta automatico Modello 1938A?

Having not read up on 30's-era weaponry for a while now, yes. Apart from those weapons you stated, and any others that anyone else says, then all SMGs are based upon the MP18. Oh, and look at a picture of the MP18, and then at a picture of the PPD 34. You tell me what you think.

*Beretta

Interested! can I have France, Belgium, and Holland?

No, you may not. Belgium and Holland are both claimed by Jagonia. France is yours, and you may want to claim a small chunk of the Italian Alps, or Basque country to make up for them.

The same could be said about the FMK-3, Sten/Sterling, F1/Owen gun, Berretta modello 12 and so on, because its easier to machine mill a pipe, or a square than to press and stamp at that time period. Your going to get alot of similar shapes, that dosent mean they are based on it, just use similar machineing processes.

Regardless of their external appearance they all operate diferently with few exceptions, most notably the Lancaster SMG by Britain which IS a MP 28 copy.

WHAT YOU SAID --------------------->>>

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Verghast - 1
Mekugi - googolplex

Less debate, I've already lost and now my head hurteys ow ow ow bams.

*Ursplodey*

I'd like to join playing my nation, the Sunshine Republic of Florida, if that's alright with you. In my timeline (which I've neglected to put down on paper yet), Florida has successfully seceded from the union and is its own sovereign country, albeit a tiny one. The secession (or purchase, I haven't decided which I like better) took place in the early 1900s, so it's safe to say any bad feelings the States harbored from Florida's departure (or purchase) are cleared up.

Hey there, Florida. Had you taken any of your carribean conquests by this time?

Hey there, Florida. Had you taken any of your carribean conquests by this time?

No sir, not yet. The conquest of Cuba and Haiti come much much later in Florida Oranges history, some time in the 70s I'd like to think. You'd be dealing with a small nation of around 5-10 million probably, economically sound due to a booming gambling and tourist industry but inferior military-wise.

Bump and Verg has some things to take care of this week but will return ina week or so at most.

Very well, I would like to get the Ukraine, Moldavia and the Russian Caucasus (quite a big claim I admit, But all the European territory that I liked is already taken. Just tell me whats ok and whats not.)

I'm back, apologies for taking so long but I went to Devon for two weeks. It was nice.

Anyway, make with the talky and sketches.

Peru, Colombia, Bolivia, and Ecuador

My pop is 961 million. Also itd be called the República Imperial de Gran Colombia. Mmmmm...Simon Bolivar...

Peru, Colombia, Bolivia, and Ecuador

Sure.

My pop is 961 million.

No it isn't, it's the approximate population of your chosen territories in the year 1938 so that we can keep this fair-ish. Go find a census.

Also itd be called the República Imperial de Gran Colombia. Mmmmm...Simon Bolivar...

Que?

Imperial Republic of Gran Colombia

I knew that, dammit. I did. Honest.

Babelfish.

Hokay. Here's four 38-era tanks that I did two weeks ago. I use the word Panzer because the Republik's first language is German. I imagine that I should refer to is as 'Verghastan' in future, seeing as there never was a Germany in E38...

The Panzer Kampfwagen 1932 Modell 3 (http://s13.invisionfree.com/LineartInc/index.php?showtopic=488), a medium tank which I based a LOT upon the Panzer III of WWII. Carries a 5cm main gun and a coaxial MG.

The PzKpfw1933M2 (http://s13.invisionfree.com/LineartInc/index.php?showtopic=492), a tank designed for infantry support. It carries four large-calibre MGs, for dealing with enemy infantry and light vehicles.

The PzKpfw1936M1 (http://s13.invisionfree.com/LineartInc/index.php?showtopic=501), a light tank carrying a 4cm main gun and coaxial MG. I made the picture by halving the PzKpfw32 and changing the turret.

The PzKpfw1936 Artillerie Modell (http://s13.invisionfree.com/LineartInc/index.php?showtopic=510), a self-propelled light artillery piece. Other than it's 8.5cm howitzer, this vehicle is unarmed, and must rely upon it's crew for protection or be protected by other troops.

The LineartInc forums are devoted to the random scribblings of it's members, and the admin have said that they will give us a cordoned-off haven where we can post pictures and stats for whatever we might make for the rp. The other members will of course be able to comment, but it'll save us having to search through among the UBERTANKS and Death Stars for our own threads.:D

Where did you find the population? I cant find it.

Ah interesting, I almost thought this was going the way of the Dodo.
I'll get to designing some vehicles right away.


But there are a couple more details to look into. First of, Moldavia is part of Romania in 1938. Crazy that I didnt know this since in another WW2 RP I condemned a Rumania RPer for his possession of this territory since World War 1, so remove that from the list, please.
Instead I would like to ask that my territory will go up to Stalingrad and from there on down the Volga to the Caspian sea.

May i have


Cuba

Jamica


And 2 of the Bahamma Islands??


And can i be called the Island Republic of Cuba?

Blah, blah, blah.

Yar!

First tank is ready, I'll have to convert it to a better filetype first, I'll upload it tomorow, its 0:34 hours here and I have alot of work awaiting me in the morning.

See the territory thing is edited, cool thanks.

Claimz0rz.

Sure. I gave you Andros, Little Inagua and Greater Inagua. I also put the nation name in Spanish, as that would be the native tongue, I believe.

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/mapshells/caribbean/bahamas/bahamas.htm

thank you. Oh if I would have known i could have put it in spainsh i would have done it myself(( since i am cuban........no i did not come over here on a raft)))

thank you. Oh if I would have known i could have put it in spainsh i would have done it myself(( since i am cuban........no i did not come over here on a raft)))

ME TOO! I have to explain that a lot...stupid georgians...oh and Verg can you tell me where to find my population?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/Verghastinsel/EUROPE38.png

NSEUROPE 1938

Die Republik von Verghastinsel - Green
Das Tadjikische Reich - Orange
Britannia-Benelux Federation - Red
Lachenburg - Dark Red
Mekugi - Khaki
Greater Mediterranean Alliance - Dark Turquoise
Eastern European Union - Yellow
Rodenka - Blue
The Gibraltar Pact - Purple

ME TOO! I have to explain that a lot...stupid georgians...oh and Verg can you tell me where to find my population?

Absolutely no idea. That's a project for our little group. :D

HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT: Find out your population.

Texas, Louisnana, Arkansas, and Oklahoma

Please.

Nation Name: The Texan State
Government Type: Facist {White Supremeists} {NOTE: Just so we're all on the same page, I'm not racist I just think this would be good for RP.}

History: After World War One, the United States was considered a power world, abliet not a SuperPower, a world power none the less. Things seemed to be going very much in America's favor until the 1929 New York Stock Market Crash went sent the nation into the Great Depression. The agriculture and industry which Texas had long enjoyed quickly dissolved beneath the Texan peoples feet. It was during this extremely difficult economic time when a man by the name of Alfred Gemstone, a White Surpremeist, began to preach his ideals to the people of Texas. In the rural parts of the state, his ideals quickly began to take root amoungst the population while the urbanized and suburban areas generally rejected his ideals. He then formed a political party known as the "Whites First!", a far-right racist party which demanding the deportation of blacks. At first, his party was small, but as soon as he began preaching in Lousinana, and a few other states his ideals quickly took root and grew into a major power in the region.

Later in 1932, the CIA was accused by Alfred of attempting to kill him in two assassination attempts. This causes outrage in Texas and surronding states, and soon the urbanized areas which once rejected Alfred now accepted him. Alfred eventually was elected governor of Texas and soon he began to make plans for independance. The situtation grew worse when the unemployment rate in Texas grew to 60%. Taking his moment of oppurtunity Alfred declared Texan independance. Due to the US's weak stance, along with a similar independance claim in Flordia the US government was forced to accept the deal. Soon Lousiana, Oklahoma, and Arkansas already influenced by Alfred also succeded and when US troops went to put down the rebellions they asked Texas for annexation, and Alfred quickly accepted and move the Texan Militia into these new territories to defend them. War was safely averted when the US had other internal problems and decided not to declare war.

With the United States promptly stared down and a new Facist Regime in power, the fait of the Texan State looks promising.

Texas, Louisnana, Arkansas, and Oklahoma.

Gotchaz.

For future reference, all rl nations or territories that remain unclaimed by the start of the rp default to their rl selves. Thus, any American territory that is still unclaimed becomes the now-weakened US of A.

Any chance I can have all the former Confederacy then? Save Flordia since its already claimed?

Oh, if you dont mind, i'll be speaking German in my nation, its much easier to create designations for my arms in German than it is in Russian.

I have no idea about the population, it isnt easy to find anything on Ukraine and it will be even harder to find the population of the caucasus. That of Stalingrad was in 1942 850.000.
I'll have to go with an estimated population, and I'm guessing it would have been at a total of 65-70 million.

More claimz0rz.

Uh...Yeah I think I'd be cool with that. I think we've got so many nations bigger than Poland now that it doesn't matter. You still want the same nation name?
I R SPEAAKY DEUTSCH.

Yeah. Whatever.
Population? Oh noes!

Guesses are better than not knowing at all.

Sorry haven't been active on this for a while, lost thread. :(

Anyway, can someone briefly sum up how this is going? I'm still in BTW.

I don' wanna read it all.

As long as this thread is active, the rp is likely not running. This thread is where we discuss what it should be like when we start, and get prepared. Go look up your population, choose or make some military hardware, and chip in with talk.

As long as this thread is active, the rp is likely not running. This thread is where we discuss what it should be like when we start, and get prepared. Go look up your population, choose or make some military hardware, and chip in with talk.

Lol okay. Your quote read my mind ;)
So, any ideas on when this is starting?

Rise of the Second Confederacy

Since the fall of the First Confederacy during the American Civil War in which the South lost just by the skin of their teeth, and the following brutal methods of the Reconstruction, the South was by no means happy. Dissent lasted and racism was rampant as the civil rights of blacks were non existant. During World War 1, a man by the name of Alfred Gemstone (born in Virginia, but raised in Texas) didn't enlist in the military and began to preach out against the war calling it needless. Of coarse his voice was drowned out by the patriotism of Southerners. Alfred then turned his policy and began to have rallies across the South condemning the last of States Rights in the United States calling it "a move towards tyranny and reoppression". His words took deep root in the impoverished Southern states, espically Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia.

Though it appeared again due to a US victory in the Great War would dissolve most of the dissent, and for the most part that began to occur. That was until the 1929 New York Stock Exchange crashed and plunged the world into the Great Depression. The already poor South was hit the hardest as there were even reports of many people having the forge off the land in rural communities. Alfred's policy then turned against blacks and called for their deportation calling them "the worst thing that ever spawned into this world". In an already racist South, these words took root and the people began to turn towards him for leadership. Eventually he formed his own political party known as the "White First and Foremost" this party took deep root in and the South and by 1932 most of the Southern states were controlled by the WFF.

The American government in Washington D.C. were angered as even Congress was falling under their whim and it appeared that racism was even beginning to creep into Northern States. Alfred, already knowning Washington was working against him, he was further encouraged when Flordia succeeded from the Union. Alfred wanted to support Flordia's independance call and rallied the Southern States and these states refused to allow Union troops to pass threw their lands. Washington was outraged at these actions and didn't consider the refusal illegal and sent troops into Virginia.

Alfred, angry with the Union's blatant actions, rallied the Southern Militia in North Carolina to oppose them. However, Union troops were much better armed and would have surely won if the a group of Virginian militia didn't ambush them prior to the battle, killing off most of their general staff and sending them into chaos. Using this to his advantage, the Southern Militia launched an attack and crushed the Union forces and sent them into disarray. With this attack, Alfred called for the Southern States to succeed from the Union--again. Considering the attack in Virignia as an act of tyranny the Southern states willingly left the Union and reunited to form the Confederate States of America (CSA) or more commonly known as the Second Confederacy.

With their army smashed and half of their population now revolting--again, the Union was too weak to counter-attack and was forced to accept the independance of the CSA. With the Union promptly smashed, and the rise of the Facist system of belief in the CSA under Alfred Gemstone, the CSA is rebuilding and industralizing for a new world.

Can I name my nation? I will call it the "Britannia-Benelux Federation" (BBF).

I'll do a history in a sec...

Hist0rz

Koolz.
BBF

Sure.

HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT 2: Decide upon your nation's language, then make a title for your nation in that language (e.g. República Imperial de Gran Colombia). If you wish, simply use English for your nation's title.

Translator
http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr

If I could, perhaps I could take the United States (or what's left of it after the Confederates split off)?

Indeed you may. It'd save the south from instantly declaring war and winning a short war against an npc.

I would never go to war against America. The South respects the North.

*Evil grin*

EDIT: Sorry to nit pick, but Virginia was also apart of the former Confederacy.

I would never go to war against America. The South respects the North.

*Evil grin*

EDIT: Sorry to nit pick, but Virginia was also apart of the former Confederacy.

Do what you like, I'm in Europe!

Also, Virginia and West Virginia have been added to the Confederacy. Both you and Sarz have nagged me about this. :D

Assignment blah blah: name in 7331 language

Tadjikistan/Das Tadjikische Reich!

Not that I have any specific plans for an ideology, just sounds good.

*Cough* Missouri was in CSA...kinda *Cough*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America

Sorry to double post, but can I begin my RP. Its not about war, but about the organization of this new Facist State. Including the beginning of black deporation, organizing the military, and install patriotism. That sort of thing.

Dammit!

See? I have to rely on you to point this out, and a very good job you're doing.
I R T3h I7P N0wz.

Yeah, go for it.

Nice map for this:

http://www.anselm.edu/academic/history/hdubrulle/WWIIa/graphics/Europe%201937.jpg

May I claim Spain, Portugal, and Morroco under the Gibralter Pact

I'm working from a modern map that I got from Wikipedia, seeing as the borders of E38 wouldn't correspond exactly with those of real life.

And you're most welcome to join our group, USSNA. I'll edit you in now, and update the map.

E38 Europe
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9943965&postcount=54

Well, since I have Britain I may as well make English the official language, though Dutch will be another one. The name is still the Britannia-Benelux Federation though.

History in a sec...

History of the BBF

The Britannia-Benelux Federation had its first incarnation in the Anglo-Dutch Union of 1652, two years after William of Orange had ascended the English (and Scottish) throne, along with his wife Mary. This Union continued on with their heir, Hendrik I. The Union continued to prosper for 30 years, until, during the reign of Hendrik II, the Flemish assaulted the Dutch provinces. The Unionist army immediately reacted, but the Flemish had already captured Zeeland before they could reach them. Since they felt they could no longer defend the Dutch front, the Unionist army counter-attacked into Flanders, forcing the Flemish army backwards to defend their homeland. The Unionist army had already, by that time, captured Wallonia, next to Flanders, to use as a forward base, and had struck out into Flanders. Once the Flemish met them, they were too dug in to be defeated. The Flemish surrendered and were annexed into the Union. Due to these new provinces of Wallonia and Flanders, the Union renamed itself, and the Britannia-Benelux Federation was born.
The modern Federation is a democracy, though it still maintains its historic monarchy, the royal house of Orange. In recent years, the BBF has found that relations have been breaking down with France. The Federation also seeks provinces abroad, and has cast its gaze on the Republic of Cuba. Despite this, the Federation's government, and people, would never allow a war without cause. Thus, the Federation is waiting for a time to snap...

Through Hated, We are United (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=454721)

Hey, would it be too hard if I changed the name of my group of nations to Español Federación or roughly translated: Spanish Federation.

The repubic. All citizens understood what you meant now but in the days before unification there were many republics and they were under a large ammount of American influence before they united in 1898. In that year one man gained a large following in Colombia, Bolivia, Ecuador, and Peru. He promised them unity and strength. This man was Jose Antonio Salazar y Bolivar. In one fell swoop his followers revolted and threw off their American installed oppresors to create the Republica Imperial de Gran Colombia. The nation was named after the failed Republic led by Simon Bolivar that had united much of South America. They named Jose Antonio Salazar y Bolivar Emperor of Gran Colombia and he inturn created the Senado Imperial made up of 25 Seantors from each Province totalling 100 Senators. They immediately embarked on a policy of refrom and integration. They began massive public works projects to create more houseing and farmland and larger and further reaching roads. To compensate for this they had to create much more industry which inturn created many more jobs and much more revenue. In 1900, Emperor Jose I signed a deal with the USA to create a canal through the Isthmus of Panama. To insure that the USA did not try to keep the canal for themsleves he got a clause added to the deal that stated that the USA would only recieve revenue for 15 years after the canal opened and that the Imperial Army would be stationed in the Isthmus. The project was soon completed with increaseing industry in Gran Colombia and the canal officially opened on September 1, 1914. The canal generated a large ammount of income for the RIGC and started improveing the economy of the nation. In 1918 Emperor Jose I began a massive public education effort createing many schools and allowing free entrance to them. In that same year universal suffrage was granted for those over 20 and a new clause was added to the constitution stateing that succession would be determined by a vote in the Senate between the Emperors heirs. On June 21, 1920 Emperor Jose I died of natural causes at the age of 68. His eldest son was elected to succeed him and was crowned Emperor Jorge I on July 14, 1920. He continued his fathers education refroms and began a socialist economy and a welfare system. On January 12,1922 Emperor Jorge I gave his father the posthumous title Father of the Imperial Republic and he has since then been known as Jose the Founder. In 1926 the government began createing more arms manufacturers and modernizeing its armed forces. By 1936 they were on par with the BBF and their economy was rivaling that of the FE. In 1932 Jorge I gave monetary support to the seccession in the south of the USA but also denounced their racist views.

CURRENT RELATIONS
Die Republik von Verghastinsel-neutral
Das Tadjikische Reich-neutral
Britannia-Benelux Federation-neutral
Greater Mediterranean Alliance-neutral
Eastern European Union-neutral
The Republic of Florida-friendly
República de Cuba-friendly
Confederate States of America-neutral
United States of America-disdain
Federacion Espanol-friendly

1898 was a big year for Cuba. It had finally gained its indepedence from Spain thanks to the US. After the Treaty of Paris cuba was a free country. Though at the time they were very poor and military outdated. And with some US occupation forces there disnt help matters. As known the US had gotten Guantmino Bay from Cuba as a military base. All american soilders though remaining in Cuba were brought to Europe to fight in the Great war. The only presence was that of Guantmino. Slowly though the cubans began to rise in econmoic growth and really started the flourish as a country.

In 1918 Cuba started to update its goverment and military. They adopted a consution based on the US's and started to mordenernize the military especially in the Navey depeartment. In 1920 Cuba showed its Navy by taking 3 bahamas islands, Andros, Greater Inagua and Little Inagua by attacking the tribes on the on the Islands. With the Bahama Islands so close to the US Cuba stopped there to not provoke any unwanted concern.

Cuba's started rolling in cash when it opened serval resorts in the Bahamas and Cuba itself. Many people loving the Beatuifull scenery were going there increasing Cuba's markerting.

In 1923 Jamaica became invloved in a civil war until Cuba intervened late in the war crushing both sides and taking Jamaica for itself. When Flordia became its own republic it put Guantmino bay future is massive confusion. some soilders stationed there were from Flordia. When the Great Depression hit and the sesscion of the Confederate states made cubas leader MIguel Miranda wonder who controled the bay. Was it the Union or Confedarate States? Miranda wanting to buy Guantmino off of the Americans has asked both the Confederates and the Union who it belongs to and how much will it take to buy off of them. So far so response.

As i have stated in Cubas history who the hell own Guamtmino bay?? The Confeds or the Union?

The Union, I imagine.

Union controls it, but its probably a disputed territory also.

Union controls it, but its probably a disputed territory also.



It would make an interesting scernio if half of the soilders were from the confederate states and half were from the Union setting a very hostile enviorment

Don't count me out here...I'm still active, just letting you guys know. It seems like every time I try to get involved or write on Nationstates, my fucking work kills me. Season blows. At any rate, a history will be up soon. This looks like it's going to be a blast, what with the USA split three ways and Cuba also attaining sovereignty.

Heh, Vergastinalsel(or something like that), i'm having second thoughts about the language. I've decided that It wouldnt be that much of a problem to work in Russian. Just change the name of my nation to republic of Tadjikistan.


As for a history, it will be very short. My nation broke away during the Russian civil war with German and Turkish equipment bought from the nations that lost WW1. After the declaration of independence the armies of the new state caried out more attacks on red and white troops in the caucasus and managed to take over these area's. Ever since Tadjikistan has done its best to keep its forces up to date, to fight off Russian invaders. Tadjikistan is known for its oil, industry and agriculture.

History of the GMA

History:After WW1 The Greek Civilization almost Faltered. Untill a man named Alexander came to power. A Carasmatic man he won the People heart preaching Peace and Dominance over the Mediterranian again. Quickly he built up the Greek Army to a new height, not seen since the bronze age. He led his Army into many Victorys against the Albanians and the Macedonians. After Short Quick Victories he Conquered the Albainian and Macedonian people. He has brought the Greek Civilization to Heights not seen since The days of the Old Alexander. Many poeple wonder if this new Alexander is kin to the Old.

Population: 17.5-18.7 Million(I Don't trust the source)
Military: 650,000-720,000(Haven't Finished)
Language: Greek
Religion: Greek Orthodox
Government: Constitutional Monarchy (More Power To the People though)

Okay I did some research and I found out the combined population of Spain, Portugal, and Morocco was around 50 million. At 3.5% military that gives me 1.750.000 men in total in my military.

I will right up the history later. But I think it will be a pact from after WWI.

Hey, I am going to do a massive reworking, or should I say just working, of the Spanish Federation military. Whould anyone have a problem if I based the uniforms and such on the German and SS WWII uniforms with weapons based mainly on US WWII style stuff.

Weapons I am going to design:

Battle Rifle: Highly based on the M1 Garand, but chambered for a different round and slightly shorter.

Carbine: Something similar ti the M1 carbine.

SMG: Dont know.

Pistol: Basiaclly a copy of the US .45

Machine gun. A smaller and lighter MG42 with a smaller round.

Русско!

Sure. It's your country :D. I'll have to modify our relations based upon this, though.

USSNA: Good man. And seeing as I'm the one using Germany in this, no I don't mind. I'm using the WWII Fallschirmjäger uniform, with a few modifications;

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/Verghastinsel/38Infanterie.jpg
By the way, the jacket is actually a one-piece pull-over. It comes in the two standard army sizes; Too Big, and Too Small.

Okay thanks. I was also refering to their RL basis anyway, becuase Nazi Germany didn't happen in E38 anyway. ;)

I notice that alot of people here seem accomplished artists as such, and have made some to represent their tech. Is this necessary? I can do some stuff, but it would most likely be of a crappy type.

I notice that alot of people here seem accomplished artists as such, and have made some to represent their tech. Is this necessary? I can do some stuff, but it would most likely be of a crappy type.

If you can't, or don't want to, then don't let anyone pressure you into it. The main focus is the rp, but as I and a couple of others are capable of and enjoy doing the Lineart, we do.
If you want, just use photographs to represent your tech, or just use weaponry that existed at the time. Or you could always ask one of us to do it. I'd be happy to assist, but I can't do everyone's. If you want a few tips learning how to Lineart, or comment from others, go to http://s13.invisionfree.com/LineartInc/index.php?act=idx and talk with the regulars.

Hello.

I would like to get involved here. When is the RP likely to start?

Could I claim Poland and Belarus as a Centrist dictatorship, the Славная республика Slavicia, Please?

I must go now, Will find population out when I come back!

[EDIT] Population in 1938 for both countries combined is about 39,371,083.

I notice that alot of people here seem accomplished artists as such, and have made some to represent their tech. Is this necessary? I can do some stuff, but it would most likely be of a crappy type.

I do build scalemodels and there I learned that any model is a good model, simply because you put your time in it and tried to make it good. Some people are gifted and make excellent models, others(including me) do what they can.
I made a tank but I dont think its that great, Vergani's models are better.

I think I'll attempt some, but they're likely to be bad.

Yo, claim.

Sure thing, I'll add you now.

The rp will start when everyone's here and asking that question, which should be shortly.

I think I'll attempt some, but they're likely to be bad.

Just take your time, do a rough outline to start and then add detail section by section. Make use of shift for straight lines, ctrl+Z for undo, and Image - Flip/Rotate.

Just take your time, do a rough outline to start and then add detail section by section. Make use of shift for straight lines, ctrl+Z for undo, and Image - Flip/Rotate.

Ok, thanks, I'll start on a basic rifle for my people shortly. When you say the Rp will start shortly, how shortly is shortly? (eg. a few mins, or a day? I know loads of people are on different times, I'm on GMT and I think you are? Anyway, just saying that maybe for some people its currently night.)

We could start friday, perhaps? I'm going to Folkstone (120 miles away from me) from wednesday on, and coming back friday morning for a funeral.

ARGH: I forgot to say why Flip/Rotate helps. It allows you to do half of a symmetrical picture, then copy and paste the other half instead of doing it by hand. Much helpness.

Okay. I've decided to also do some by hand (literally, sketches on paper) and put them up via scanner. They're not great, but give a decent basic idea, and I know how to do them :). I'll practice a bit until I can do decent ones with Paint, which hopefully won't take too long.

Friday would do fine for me.

BTW, thanks for accepting my application!

Friday is good for me too. In fact, any day is good for me.

That's cool, then. If anyone's away for friday or the weekend it won't matter, as wars should be sheduled by the two players, and threads stay around for a while.

Big red writing, so noone misses this post;

THE RP WILL START ON FRIDAY THE 25th OF NOVEMBER.

EDIT:

IF YOU DON'T HAVE MSN, DAMN WELL GO OUT AND GET IT.
http://messenger.msn.com/

Great! I'm busy setting up my factbook, in preparation.

Can I still join? If I can, I'll take Egypt and Libya.

Hey Verghastinsel, I have made a rifle in Paint. How do I get it up?

http://www.imageshack.us is good for image hosting.

http://www.imageshack.us is good for image hosting.

Thanks. I'm not running this, but I'm 99.9% sure you can join as Egypt and Libya. A new name is optional (preferably in national language) but you need a history. In this RP, there was never a British Empire, so you can ignore their occupation of your two territories. Basically, a rewrtie from scratch.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c358/jawohljt/Rifle.jpg

This is the BBF standard issue bolt rifle. It's slightly disproportionate. It is based off the Lee-Enfield and
Kar98. Can someone tell me if it looks any good? Specs are on it as well.

Claimage.

Of course. I've already put you in.

Jagonia, I'm assuming that there was a British Empire, as it would be required for several areas of the world to have advanced as far as they have, and would leave big unknown areas of time if it hadn't. HOWEVER, all nations have lost their territorial holdings due to revolution/rebellion/independance/something, which is why you don't have India.

I bet you want India. Go on, here it is! Jump! Jump! Ju...HAHAHA! TOO SLOW!

Of course. I've already put you in.

Jagonia, I'm assuming that there was a British Empire, as it would be required for several areas of the world to have advanced as far as they have, and would leave big unknown areas of time if it hadn't. HOWEVER, all nations have lost their territorial holdings due to revolution/rebellion/independance/something, which is why you don't have India.

I bet you want India. Go on, here it is! Jump! Jump! Ju...HAHAHA! TOO SLOW!

Kk, that would also mean that at some point the Dutch owned the East Indies. Hmm.. the plot thickens....

Grr, now I want India, Burma and Indonesia. Ah well, suppose I'll just have to "retake" them.

Gunz0rz!.

The stock is too small, the magazine looks odd, the grip is too shallow, and the frame requires a disproportionate amount of wood, making the rifle heavy.

Lets see My first action should be to "Reclaim" Cyprus from Turkey..that should prove to be fun.
Someone Claim Turkey please.

The stock is too small, the magazine looks odd, the grip is too shallow, and the frame requires a disproportionate amount of wood, making the rifle heavy.

I know, I did a somewhat better sketch, but my scanner bust. Anyway, I'm pleased with it for a first attempt, despite its shortcomings.

Damn colonials...

Don't forget about the Commonwealth. You're still on very good relations with Canada, Australia, etc - unless someone claims them and decides otherwise.

Don't forget about the Commonwealth. You're still on very good relations with Canada, Australia, etc - unless someone claims them and decides otherwise.

Ah yes, but they, at this point, are independent, meaning if they don't like me they can just quit the Commonwealth like that, without needing a military struggle.

I know, I did a somewhat better sketch, but my scanner bust. Anyway, I'm pleased with it for a first attempt, despite its shortcomings.

http://s13.invisionfree.com/LineartInc/index.php?showtopic=610

Feel free to chop and change anything from pictures that I've done. This is the Wittmann MP30 submachinegun, based upon the rl Bergmann MP35 but with a different grip.

Since my Nation is surrounded by a lot of grey I would like to claim Land around it. Lets say 1/4 of the countries to the north. The Eastern Part that is normally Turkey. And A Little bit of Turkey mabey just the coastline. Do you think this is acclicable?

Land-grabbage.

No. RP it.

No Problem what so ever.

No Problem what so ever.

Good boy. You may have a cookie.

http://s13.invisionfree.com/LineartInc/index.php?showtopic=612

The G39, a rifle for use later in the rp. I know it's '38, but the weapon is new, self-loading and won't be in service for a couple of years so the designation has been put forward some.

Some links for Michael Wittmann, the designer of the G24, MP30 and G39 in the E38 alternate universe, and the most successful tank commander in WWII (Possibly in history, I have to check up.) in real life.

From the Polish offensive of 1939 to his death in 1944, Michael Wittmann achieved one hundred and forty-one kills (Sometimes believed to be 138, but Wiki says 141.) of enemy tanks, and one hundred and thirty-two kills of enemy anti-tank guns. He and his crew were killed in action whilst fighting at Gaumesnil near Cintheaux on August 8, 1944, and were buried in unmarked graves. Their bodies were exhumed in March of 1983, and they are now buried in a German military cemetary at De La Cambe, France.

http://www.panzerace.net/
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/gen3.htm
http://users.pandora.be/dave.depickere/Text/wittman.html
http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/Panzer/wittmann.htm

http://www.geocities.com/kaisermartens/KMK.jpg
THE MARTENS KAISERREICH

Population: 18.5 Millions
Territories: Austria, Croatia, Serbia
Capital City: Wien

After the fall of the Empire, quickly new political forces came into the chaos to try to seize the land, with different proposals of peace, war, communism, democracy, even anarchy, and many more...for years, it'd seem that after the quick fall of the Monarchy, nothing good would ever come out of poor old Österreich, but seemingly out of nowhere had come this new politician, Michael Martens, a Vienese Citizen who decided not to let his country fall into oblivion any further. Within a few years his strong, Imperialistic speeches hit the Austrians in the core of their hearts, gaining popularity faster and faster. He proposed a mix of Imperialism, Nationalism and Socialism, something that had never existed previously, and so with the support of General Loss, whom he had grown up with, the "Martian Revolution" overthrew the government some 8 years ago, and the "Martens Kaiserreich" was established, Martens would now be the Emperor and General Loss would be the Supreme Commander. The new flag came up, which had been the flag of the Silver Party, now plus a German Cross to signify their ascent to Officiality.

From that moment on, Martens spoke less and did more. He used the Weapons Industry as the main engine to bring back some vitality to the poor beat up land, soon people being proud to work again, soon the numbers in the Reichswehr growing, along with the amount of new, German MP30s and with the amount of tanks, which were the newest technology. This was followed by social welfare invests and lots of public-oriented policies. In the end, the place was economically blooming, but it was time to act. Martens knew that he had reached the climax of development in Austria, if he did not expand and get new resources, more people, and more land, the economy would implode as it is, or international prices fluctuations would kill him. And if that didn't happen, he'd be absorbed by Germany or the Slavic Powers...

"ÖSTERREICH - VORAN!" And so without any type of warning, the proud Germanic troops of the Martens Kaiserreich, including Martens himself atop of his personal Panzer, soon marched into the Croatian territory, and then into the Serbian one. Surprise was key, once Zagreb fell there was nothing stopping him, and it became a quick, easy victory. This drew international attention, it looked like the Austrians were up to something once again. Little could they know about the Storm that was gonna rage all across Europe, by both Southern and Northern Germans. The would would once again shake as Martens went up to the Republik, to Berlin, and signed an offensive/defensive trade and Technology treaty...and then sat back, planning more operations. It wasn't just a crazy Expansionist race. If Martens didn't make Austria big, the Economy would inevitably collapse.


More to come...

My realm's name is Imperium Cugrandae , "Empire of Cugrand". Cugrand is right-leaning society, and state is ruled by catholics. It was established after WW1, in 1920, by order of Pope Benedict XV. Cugrand were built to Egypt and Libya, to northern Africa, and they chose the romanian cardinal Slavik Diestrynof (Alexander I Africae) to lead it. He anyway died in 1929, and dictator Hans Schrüger (Urbanus I) get to power. It has strong military and economy, but police forces has been lacking, and empire has been in chaos, but emperor government has done good work in war against crime.

Population: about 18 million
Areas: Egypt, Libya
Capital City: Cairo
Official languages: latin, arab
Head of State: Hans Schrüger (usually known as Urbanus I)

(I'm sorry if there is any grammar mistakes, english is not my native language)

I'd like to join as Northern Russia.

Name-Народы Советский Союз

(I plan on editing this post to do something like Martens did)

РОССИЯ!

Hey there, Sov. Good to see you here. Can you specify your border for the map?

Named.

Noted, and edited.

Since Tadjik went and toned down his territory so that goes up just past Stalingrad, I'll throw my southern border to be his Northern Border.

Use http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/rs.html for Referance in my next subject.
I'd like it if my Eastern Border formed along that river that Omsk is on(Omsk being included in my territory). Its quite a big chunk, but then I thought I'd just throw in the fact that there isn't much beyond jack squat over the Urals(for industry anyway).

Official Language is, Russian. My Capital will be the 'Twin Cities', of Leningrad and Arkhangel'sk.

Oh, Tadjik, I found out a bit of info you might like. Alright, for Population, In 1939 Russia(as a hole) was at 168,525,000..Now I believe Tadjik took a populated part of Southern Russia(which might account for a third of his pop) and the other 2/3s of course being in Ukraine. I'm thinkin that took a good 20-30mill?..So I'd guess my Population was maybe 70-100mill? I dont think 100mill would be acceptable, considering there's still quite a bit of Russia left unclaimed, so I'd stick my guess on 85mill.
Link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_War_II_casualties#USSR_Population_1939-46
Scroll down towards the bottom and you'll see the population thinger.

Soo lets see...

Name-Народы Советский Союз
Language-Russian
Territory-West Russia, South Border shared with Tadjik, East Border to Irtyah River
Capital-Moscow
Population-85,000,000

That good enough?


Edit:I made Moscow my capital because Tadjik pushed his northern border southward a bit.

Perfect. Rivers are very helpful in Russian geography.

We have a forum!

http://s14.invisionfree.com/E38/index.php?act=idx

Please register with your ENTIRE E38 nation name (Die Republik von Verghastinsel, Confederate States of America, etc).

National Information forums have been assigned to those who have completed their nation name. If you have not, please post or tg me your confirmation that you are participating in E38, along with your desired nation name.
Do not post new threads in other people's information forums.
Comments are welcome, but it will be much easier to keep organised if it is only the person to which the forum has been assigned makes new threads. National information contains everything you might otherwise put in your factbooks, or histories. This includes military details, numbers, and armament. Secret projects must be declared secret in the title, and must not be referred to IC without the permission of the creator.
There is a forum for member contact details, please use it.

I wish you all good luck in your E38 endeavours, unless of course they conflict with mine! :D

Cool!

My factbook is nearing completion, and should be up shortly!

Eh, Armenia Azerbajan and Georgia were supposed to be part of my territory. I thought we were using 1938 maps and that these territories were part of the claim I made. Thats also the reason why I gave up on Moldavia.

Since Tadjik went and toned down his territory so that goes up just past Stalingrad, I'll throw my southern border to be his Northern Border.

Use http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/rs.html for Referance in my next subject.
I'd like it if my Eastern Border formed along that river that Omsk is on(Omsk being included in my territory). Its quite a big chunk, but then I thought I'd just throw in the fact that there isn't much beyond jack squat over the Urals(for industry anyway).

Official Language is, Russian. My Capital will be the 'Twin Cities', of Leningrad and Arkhangel'sk.

Oh, Tadjik, I found out a bit of info you might like. Alright, for Population, In 1939 Russia(as a hole) was at 168,525,000..Now I believe Tadjik took a populated part of Southern Russia(which might account for a third of his pop) and the other 2/3s of course being in Ukraine. I'm thinkin that took a good 20-30mill?..So I'd guess my Population was maybe 70-100mill? I dont think 100mill would be acceptable, considering there's still quite a bit of Russia left unclaimed, so I'd stick my guess on 85mill.
Link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_War_II_casualties#USSR_Population_1939-46
Scroll down towards the bottom and you'll see the population thinger.
I found; "We may assume that in 1943 the population of the Ukrainian SSR in the current boundaries was about 30 million, that is, 10.5 million less than in 1939." (Ukraine: A Concise Encyclopedia, University of Toronto Press, 1963, vol. 1, p. 204.)
and
"At the beginning of the war Ukraine's population was 41.9 million"

A French author called Meslle (ro something in that trend) mentions 41.3 million in 1939
I think I was close when I said 65 million. With Staligrad and the caucasus I should easily reach that population.
Edit:I made Moscow my capital because Tadjik pushed his northern border southward a bit.
Northern border southward? Dont you mean Eastward?

Instead I would like to ask that my territory will go up to Stalingrad and from there on down the Volga to the Caspian sea.

Up to Stalingrad, I assumed you ment that the current Orange North Border would be brought down so that Stalingrad was just behind your northern border, while expanding your eastern border to the Caucasus.

The map we're using is Wikipedia's blank world map. It's big, and clear, and easy to change. The map is modern, so national borders are as they are today.

Tajik, your border follows the west side of the Volga, down to the Caspian Sea. This will not be changed, as I don't want to. It contains Stalingrad, so be happy. Your north border is at Smolensk, then jumps to Ryazan, before following the Volga.

Sov has Moscow, as it is around 100km north of your border.

I would like to claim Australia - Including Mainland Australia and Tasmania, and New Zealand - Both North and South islands.

If it is possible, I'd like to squeeze in East Timor.

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The Federation of Anzpac

I would like to claim Australia - Including Mainland Australia and Tasmania, and New Zealand - Both North and South islands.

If it is possible, I'd like to squeeze in East Timor.

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The Federation of Anzpac

Of course it is, I'll write you up. Please register on the forums with your full nation name.

(Though shouldn't it be ANZPAC?)

Yes...I just...got...lazy...hey look it's a birdy!...

Hey, where is the link to the forum?

NEVERMIND

Oh, sorry. It's back a few pages.

http://s14.invisionfree.com/E38/index.php?act=idx

Thanks.

( When I said NVM I found the link to the other forum...the tech one lol )

The map we're using is Wikipedia's blank world map. It's big, and clear, and easy to change. The map is modern, so national borders are as they are today.

Tajik, your border follows the west side of the Volga, down to the Caspian Sea. This will not be changed, as I don't want to. It contains Stalingrad, so be happy. Your north border is at Smolensk, then jumps to Ryazan, before following the Volga.

Sov has Moscow, as it is around 100km north of your border.

The Northern border stays as it is, I just didnt understand what he meant by northern border being pushed southward.
And what about those caucasian teritories? I wanted them to be part of my land as I wanted the mountains.

Actually I messed up.

I mis-read this as I registered, see my nation is Japanese based...so yea, could I change my claim to -

Japan, Sakhalin Island ( Big Island above Hokkaido ), The Kuril Islands ( Chain of smaller islands above Hokkaido ), and the Koreas?

( And if possible, Philippines...but I could take those later I guess...if anyone gets in the mood for war. )

Add On - The name for that then would be -

The Grand Empire of Japan

Tadjik, give me a break and roleplay it :D

Blatantly
Usurp
Multiligual
Parodies

Bumpus Maximus.

Brian
Undermines
Many
People

Michael Wittman is uber, etc.

I have to disagree, I believe that Rommel was the better commander. He used tanks to great effect in Afrika.

Can I have Quebec with New Foundland, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia. Also the Republic of Quebec will also include everything bellow the 45 N meaning Ottawa and Toronto.

I am requesting Italy and Malta, and Indonesia as the Kingdom of Italy, and it's faithfull colony Indonesia. I don't want them RL crappy Italian colonies in 1938, with their messy British and French entaglements! Old Mussolini was overthrown in 1937 after labor unrest, and King Victor Emmanuel has installed Ivanoe Bonomi as Prime Minister. A constitutional convention is underway in Rome to clean things up and start with a more stable democracy.

Field Marshall Pietro Badoglio is reorganizing the military. The Army is at 47 real divisions, with plans and training to expand to 50 by 1940. Heavy spending is underway primarily in an Air Force upgrade, and secondarily in replacing all surface fleet ships greater than 30 years old.

Financially the Bonomi administration is actively seeking industrial development in the impovershed south as well as Sicily and Sardinia. And, of course, enjoying big trade in oil and rubber from the Italian East Indies.

Italy and Malta - Population 42 Million
Italian East Indies - 69 Million

D00d Rommel is t3h r0x0rz

Yes he is, but Rommel was a General. He commanded regiments and battalions daily, but he did not command his own armoured vehicle in combat, which was what I was referring to with Wittmann.

Oh noes, you forgotz us!

Whoa, more people.

If it's unclaimed, you can have it. Please register at the E38 forums under your full E38 nation name. I'll make your personal national info forums now, and add you to the map.

W00t! I made t3h koolz rp wo7 peep5 like!!!!!11!

Wittman drives tanks!!! l337!


Okay, I thought you were talking about armoured division command in general, as both Rommel and Wittman did that.

Bumpattabumpah.

I'm on the forum as the Kingdom of Italy.

I'm on the forum as the Kingdom of Italy.

Uber.

Bashful
Umlaut
Massacres
Papists

Can I join? If so lemme get China, Bhutan, Nepal, Laos, and Asian Russia

Russia as well is too much.

I'll put you down for the others, go make up a nation name, and register on the forums.

http://s14.invisionfree.com/E38/index.php?

Yay. Can I have a south Eatern Russia. Like the area near China and thats it. IF so yay if not ok. So lemme know when the map is updated

I'm the: Evil Republic of Tygorn

No, that's stupid. I'll change it to 'The Republic of Tygorn', and people can decide for themselves if you're evil. Which you probably are.

Also, no Russia for you. Go and rp it.

ok. Hey. Verghas, you remember a country named Chezko-Dastaria? You helped them in a civil-war? That was me. I have gotten better now though.

I do indeed remember.

Good. You made a lot of n00bish early mistakes.

I do indeed remember.

Good. You made a lot of n00bish early mistakes.
hehe. I know. Now i'm better though. I absorbed it as one nation and deleted them.