NationStates Jolt Archive

As promised. Please try not to clutter the actual thread, it somewhat ruins the RP and makes everyone look defensive and whiney.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=448631

OOC: Yeah, thanks for doing this. In the meantime, let's continue the brawl over my skies.

Ready when you are. ;) Also, shouldn't we wait for Doom? You have 20 interceptors which I've fired long-range AAMs at, not to mention those missiles flying at Korronis, but he's the one who's got the main armada-type thing going... Anyway, yeah. *waits for post*

Bleh, I'll post later tonight, after I blow up a few more nazis in CoD 2

Bleh, I'll post later tonight, after I blow up a few more nazis in CoD 2
Ok, fine, just remember that I won't be on all night...

Incase you guys missed it, I'm now involved. :)

Czardas, I've got a real problem with you magically sneaking your stealth planes into Warmaster in one post. Firstly, if you passed them over my air armada, I would have picked them up on LIDAR and LADAR. Secondly, my fighters have a cieling of 88,000 feet, meaning they could easily climb high enough to launch long range missiles to snuff out your aircraft. Redo that post and give people a chance to intercept them.

However, I didn't pass them over your air armada. They entered The Warmaster's airspace many miles to the south of your air forces, far out of the RADAR, LIDAR, LADAR, etc. range of your aircraft. Their path basically described a huge J, leaving Czardas and going due south for several thousand miles before turning in an arc and approaching Warmaster from the south. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

[SSRS 'Tranquility' Neptune-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught, Flagship of the 2nd Naval Armada]

The gigantic ships slice gracefully through the ocean, to both the port and starboard sides you could see two more of the Neptune-class behemoths, the 'Distant Thunder' and the 'Kaitou'. Just behind them were 3 hyper carriers, and flanking them on both sides were 16 battleships, countless others ships extended as far as 150km from the. Above them were hundreds of F-133S fighters on CAP stations extending 200km out.

Aboard the bridge of he 'Traquility' Fleet Admiral Jessica Eva watched over the fleet, she was the only woman to command a Silver Sky Republican Naval Fleet, and the highest ranking woman in the entire navy.

"Admiral, the OTH radars have detected a small naval force, satellite RADAR?IR and cameras confirm this, we managed to get a look at the flagship and most of the fleet before the satellite was out of range," Said one of the recon officers as he handed Admiral Eva some photos, "We managed to identify them as Psov ships, also long range UUV patrols have identified about two dozen enemy submarines, although we have detected torps from Czardas so they won't be much of a threat."

"Good good." Said Admiral Eva as she handed the photos back. "Procced towards the enemy fleet, ready some Pelican anti-ship missiles on a wing of F/A-128s and some 'Scourge' missiles on the arsenal ships.

On the hyper carriers seventy-two F/A-128s were quickly loaded with eight Pelican anti-ship missile each, the planes were quickly launched and proccedded to the launch point, approx. 400km from the enemy fleet, they were escorted by a wing of F-133s.

Back at the fleet,the 16 Arsenal ships fired fourty 'Scourge' missiles each at the capital ships of the Psovian fleet. (Anything cruiser or bigger).

The planes finally reached their destination and let loose all of their Pelican missiles, 576 in total at all of the ships.

Beneath the waves approx. 250km from the enemy sub two groups of ten Navarre-Class SSN, loaded with 'Bayonet' large torpedoes stalked towards the enemy fleet at 27 knots. One within range they would unleash total destuction on the large Typhoon subs and the smaller ones

I have a few problems with the way this was done. for one, you assumed for some reason that my crew was blind, and that my ships had no sensors by saying that your planes reached their destination and fired their missles without giving me a chance to launch any planes, acknowledge your planes, let alone your fleet. I will RP my response from the midpoint of your post, and appreciate it if you will RP your response acknowledging anything that happens from that point on.

The planes are flying low, slow and stealth measures, both active and passive, you wouldn't be able to detect them until they launched their missiles due to low RCS and IR signatures, which you can engage them from their, the ships were already their, if you missed identifiying them then sorry, they were they, you didn't seem to acknowledge them.

You had a chance it passed, now go.


(Sorry if it comes across as arrogant, most people try to pull this crap when my ships sit their for a page, and then scream godmod when I attack them.)

[ooc:] Psov, while we're here, you did note that I fired 48 missiles at your fleet in The Warmaster's capital, didn't you? If so, what exactly happened to them? If not, please make sure you respond to them. I'd hate for them to disappear into a hole in the space-time continuum, you know.

Also...minor quibble...I never RPed sending out kamikaze pilots, just huge proximity bombs (although they would have the same, or a similar, effect). Doesn't matter by this point, just letting you know.

On an unrelated note, The Silver Sky, I fail to see how that could not be taken as being slightly arrogant....

well while you both assumed my fleet was already stationary near Czardas i had actually not intended for them to be their by the time either of you responded, but i went with it with silver sky's post since it was much more direct.

Anyway, to your response silversky, i RPed my fleet readying for a journey to Czardas, i never RPed them arriving, firing, or being anywhere near your fleet's location, much less Northeast of them. So if your suggesting you posted that information before you attacked me giving me a chance to respond then i'd appreciate it if you'd show me where.

I was reffering to the last part: "You had a chance, it passed, go on." It could basically be taken as F*ck off, I was just covering my bases. :D

Anyway, Psov, whats cybltaneous? Also, do you have stats for the missiles(M45s), and have the cruisers launched yet?

EDIT: That's fine Psov, though I'd appreciate if you could at least spell my name right, or just call me TSS. :p

argh, the M45 is an existing missle carried by Le Triomphant class SSBN, it's under the missles subheading here http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/triomphant/

and errr, i meant simultaneous, but was typing too fast and thinking too much, grrr cybletaneous, simultanous, i don't know how that happened.

You're launcing ballistic missiles at me? I hope those are conventional warheads(Cause The Warmaster said no nukes, and I'd like to keep it that way), and I'm assuming you planes are firing short range IR missiles and bullets right?

M45's are conventional, and yes, spoilers carry 5 sidewinder missles.

tag. Stupid jolt, or stupid my IE... stupid subscribe feature not working. Apologies for not posting my movements yet, will do asap. Must catch up on where everyone is geographically.

The way we seem to be RPing it is:

|||||||||||||||||| Missile attacks about here --> [x] ---Czardas---

The Silver Sky


||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ---Fluffywuffy--- (No real action here yet)


The Warmaster [x] <--- Main action going on about here
5th and 6th Czardaian Air Fleets
Doomingslandi Air Force
Psovian Ships (or not)
etc.

Distance from Warmaster to Czardas is about 3,750 miles (6,000 km).
Distance from The Silver Sky to Czardas is about 1,200 miles (2,000 km).


I can't be bothered to make a map yet, so this will have to do for now.

OOC:OK, Czar, I've got a few issues with your last strike on my aircraft, but we'll discuss that later on AIM. As for now...
[ooc:] I don't see what the issues are. Yes, we knew that as soon as we got within range to hit you, you'd be able to hit us. However, we were preparing our missiles before we got in range. If you're worried that the previous fighter division was carrying larger AAMs and couldn't carry as many, this attack is coming from the 2nd Air Fleet, which was equipped with smaller long-range AAMs (instead of 500+ miles their max range is about 180). The remaining planes from the 1st Air Fleet, which you took out with your missile attack, do not have those kinds of missiles, which is why they aren't firing.

Is that clear now? You have 5 missiles per plane coming at you, so where I suffered about 1/2 casualties (and that with bomber anti-missile defenses taking out a lot of the missiles, and you don't happen to have any bombers) you'd probably suffer a few more. With missiles coming at about Mach 8, even automated defenses will be able to take out maybe 1-2 per plane, and the maneuverability another one, which is still 2-3 missiles hitting each plane.

Contact me tonight on AIM if you still have problems. I see no way in which this'll be a big problem, personally.

Ok, I have a problem here, my naval and air forces are engaging Psovian forces, now Psov hasn't been online in at least a day or two, this results in the RP going much faster then my little engagement with Psov, and it also holds up my forces, this is unfair cause I can't RP anymovement of them as long as Psov doesn't respond, if this continues into tomorrow (Approx. 3:30pm Central Standard Time) I'm just going to go ahead and assume Psov's forces aren't their anymore and just post my movements.

It's either this or the RP just happens around my and I'm helpless until he replies.

Any opposition please post or forever hold your piece.

[ooc:] My general waiting time is no more than a week. If he doesn't post for a week or more, I call off the RP. It's happened to me on several occasions. The war with Scellia was never completed because he just decided to leave for some reason. :confused:

mucho apologies -

some kind of nasty ass virus bypassed Norton and infected my computer =\ Until I get rid of it, my online time will be even sparser than normal (at parents comp right now, and this site is blocked at work)

Sigh. Anyway, I dont know what you want to do about this ICly... ignore me, or whatever, or just realize that I will be posting like every other day until next week sometime.

Also, logistics wise, (If I do continue posting) give me an idea how close I can get to Czardas before a Doomingsland force attacks my ships.

Depending on what you tell me, I will post an accurate number and desciption of my fleet with my next post (i can proobably do tomorrow)

Well, on your logistic question, you could easily get past doom's fleet, seeing as he'd have to go a long way and get past me. ;)

The Voltarum, what direction is your fleet coming from? If it's from the south, you'll probably be attacked by Doomingslandi, Warmaster, Psovian, Shenyangi, and/or Parthian forces long before reaching Czardas, unless you're hugging the eastern coastline rather than the western (in which case you'll reach TSS's fleet first). If you're coming from the north, you basically have nothing to worry about, except for the Parthian submarines.

ill be coming from the south, so I will take the latter option I think =) Will try and post something substantial IC tonight.

Ok, I'll give Psov till 5pm too post a substantial IC post, after that he's gone in my book.

Try TGing him(?).

Just did, hopefully I get a response shortly, although it said that his last Government activity was 22 hours ago.

The Voltaru Defense Fleet comprises the 6th and 7th Fleet of the Voltaru Navy. * = Sarzonian Design, see stats at his thread. Other "Voltaru" designs are typical of advanced ships of their type.

The V-08, the standard plane on most of the carriers, is basically a Superhornet on steroids. Many are equipped with Pelican* Anti Ship missiles. Several ships are also equiped wih Erne* AA missiles. The standard support ships for a defensive force are also accompanying the fleet (if you need them, Ill post them at another time...) If you think anything if off, please tell... I did this rather quickly lol.

The 7th Fleet
V.B.S. Jericho, Flagship Vigilant-class Trimaran command battleship*
(2) Greenmanbry-class Trimaran battle carrier* (160 aircraft each)
(1) Valiant-class Trimaran super carrier* (185 aircraft)
(3) Warcrown Class Super Carrier (100 aircraft each)
(12) Capital-class Trimaran nuclear powered guided missile battleship*
(30) Waterhouse Class AA Destroyers
(20) Jassan Class ASW Destroyers
(30) Voltaru Class Trimaran Heavy Cruisers
(15) Bearback Class AA Frigates
(20) Niche Class ASW Frigates
(6) Steadfast-class SSBN/SSGN*
(10) Clawtooth Class SSBN
(25) Navarre Class SSN* (Raven Group)
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Total = 175 combatant ships


The 6th Fleet
V.B.S. Killjoy, Flagship Warcrown Class Super Carrier (100 Aircraft)
(2) Neptune-class trimaran superdreadnought*
(2) Gavin Newsom-class Trimaran hypercarrier* (280 aircraft each)
(20) Waterhouse Class AA Destroyers
(20) Jassan Class ASW Destroyers
(20) Voltaru Class Trimaran Heavy Cruisers
(10) Bearback Class AA Frigates
(10) Niche Class ASW Frigates
(20) Clawtooth Class SSBN/SSGN
(20) Athani Class SSN
---------------------------------------------
Total = 125 Combatant ships

Hey Vol, I didn't know you fielded any Neptunes, how you like'em? :p

Czardas, I know this is considerably behind in the RP, but who are you shooting at with the missiles launched from CAMERA? If you were shooting at me that would be more than a little tough since you said you have a 700-something mile radar net and I'm firing off Katana missiles from the extreme edge of their range, explaination of my missiles is here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415835

And immediately after launch the subs turned tail and began to leave the area at around 16 knots. So logically they wouldn't even appear on your search screens, they're out of range, never broke the surface, and at current are below the thermoclime, which I assume your SONAR is not as it would just be an obnoxious waste of time to try and put SONAR down there anyway.

P.S. This 2 pages a day thing is starting to piss me off!

Hey Vol, I didn't know you fielded any Neptunes, how you like'em? :p

heh. Bought a whole bunch of stuff from Sarz over the summer, because I thought a RP was going to happen soon, but it never got of the ground. BUt hey, now I get to at least say they are being used lol.

Czardas, I know this is considerably behind in the RP, but who are you shooting at with the missiles launched from CAMERA? If you were shooting at me that would be more than a little tough since you said you have a 700-something mile radar net and I'm firing off Katana missiles from the extreme edge of their range, explaination of my missiles is here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415835

And immediately after launch the subs turned tail and began to leave the area at around 16 knots. So logically they wouldn't even appear on your search screens, they're out of range, never broke the surface, and at current are below the thermoclime, which I assume your SONAR is not as it would just be an obnoxious waste of time to try and put SONAR down there anyway.
So you fired them from 2000 miles out? Besides the obvious fact that 2000 miles from Czardas would probably be somewhere in the middle of The Silver Sky or a neighboring nation (TSS is about 1200 miles from Czardas across the eastern ocean), I wasn't firing the missiles at you. I was only firing at what was in range—Psovian, Warmaster, Parthian, etc.

Also, are you going to do anything with that huge air armada you brought in, or just keep it hovering somewhere outside of our range? They came somewhat closer but really did nothing at all besides coming in and leaving again. :confused:

Actually it's more like 1600-1800 miles away, still, that would be fire SLBMs from the middle of my nation. :p

Well, I was taking it from the post where you said you had a naval outpost halfway between TSS and Czardas, 1000 km from Czardas. 2000 km = about 1200 mi, which is where I got that figure. But still. ;)

Hmm, guess you're right. :D

The Kaisers' Forces (Maxen Von Bismarck's)

5 Cr-1 Solomon-Class Attack Cruiser (The Rhine, Köln, Cologne, Pac-Sun, and the Bridgette.)
2 C-2 Millenium Wall-Class Anti-Missle (The Kluck, and Bulow)
1 BS-2 Dynamic-Class Battleship- (Schlieeffen)
1 C-1 Liberty- Class Aircraft Carrier (The Bismarck)
30 F/A-2 Blackhunter
2 D-1 Falcon-Class Destroyer ( The Vince, and Remington)
10,000 Leopard 2A6EX MBT Tanks
25,000 AS90 Self Propelled Artillery (155mm)
50,000 M551 Sheridan Light and Airborne Tank
10,000 Moorington built Heavy Tanks (Hollister-Class)
40,000,000 Trained Troops
20,000,000 Veteran Troops

Army of the West
1st Infantry- 10,000 Men (4,000 Mechanized)
2nd Infantry- 6,000 Men (4,000 Mechanized)
3rd Infantry- 6,000 Men (4,000 Mechanized)
4th Infantry- 6,000 Men (4,000 Mechanized)
Attachment: AS90 Self Propelled Artillery (155mm) (2500 Per Div.)

1st Shock- 8,000* With 5,000 Hollister-Class Tanks
2nd Shock- 8,000* With 5,000 Hollister Class Tanks
3rd Shock- 8,000* With 5,000 Hollister Class Tanks
4th Shock- 8,000* With 5,000 Hollister Class Tanks
Attachment: AS90 Self Propelled Artillery (155mm) (2500 Per Div.)

1st Armor- 1,000 Hollister-Class Tanks
2nd Armor- 1,000 Hollister-Class Tanks
3rd Armor- 1,000 Hollister-Class Tanks
Attachment: 500 Attack Helicopters

*100% Mechanized

The Kaisers' Forces (Maxen Von Bismarck's)

5 Cr-1 Solomon-Class Attack Cruiser (The Rhine, Köln, Cologne, Pac-Sun, and the Bridgette.)
2 C-2 Millenium Wall-Class Anti-Missle (The Kluck, and Bulow)
1 BS-2 Dynamic-Class Battleship- (Schlieeffen)
1 C-1 Liberty- Class Aircraft Carrier (The Bismarck)
30 F/A-2 Blackhunter
2 D-1 Falcon-Class Destroyer ( The Vince, and Remington)
10,000 Leopard 2A6EX MBT Tanks
25,000 AS90 Self Propelled Artillery (155mm)
50,000 M551 Sheridan Light and Airborne Tank
90,000 Moorington built Heavy Tanks (Hollister-Class)
60,000,000 Trained Troops
40,000,000 Veteran Troops

Army of the West
1st Infantry- 60,000 Men (40,000 Mechanized)
2nd Infantry- 60,000 Men (40,000 Mechanized)
3rd Infantry- 60,000 Men (40,000 Mechanized)
4th Infantry- 60,000 Men (40,000 Mechanized)
Attachment: AS90 Self Propelled Artillery (155mm) (2500 Per Div.)

1st Shock- 80,000* With 15,000 Hollister-Class Tanks
2nd Shock- 80,000* With 15,000 Hollister Class Tanks
3rd Shock- 80,000* With 5,000 Hollister Class Tanks
4th Shock- 80,000* With 5,000 Hollister Class Tanks
Attachment: AS90 Self Propelled Artillery (155mm) (2500 Per Div.)

1st Armor- 10,000 Hollister-Class Tanks
2nd Armor- 10,000 Hollister-Class Tanks
3rd Armor- 10,000 Hollister-Class Tanks
Attachment: 500 Attack Helicopters

*100% Mechanized

Don't you think this is just a little WAY TOO BIG?

Don't you think this is just a little WAY TOO BIG?
Yes...you do realize that this would require almost half your population to run? Unless your whole nation is made up of nomadic raiders equipped with cheap assault rifles and some outdated equipment you stole from the countries you pillaged, it won't work. (Or if most of your troops double as noncombatant personnel, and even then it's overkill. The maximum in your army should be 2-3%, or 16-24 million, and that's counting Army, Navy, Air Force, noncombatants [ratio is usually 4:1], etc.)

I have about one-tenth of those numbers, counting logistics, in my whole army and I'm twice your size, so maybe just rethink those numbers.

My air armada has already landed, when I said they broke formation I meant that they broke formation, and returned to base. Wait, no, the last aircraft lands in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. NOW! Ok they're all back. Air Armada=World's Biggest Ruse. They'll come back to haunt you later, I promise.

Btw Shenyang, would you mind adjusting somewhat the distance from which you fired those SLBMs? According to what you've said, you fired them from somewhere in the middle of The Silver Sky. I'm not all too sure how you got those submarines to travel under solid ground, let alone fire SLBMs without their being detected and shot down by Skyian ground forces, so could you explain this slightly? ;)

Yeah, I was off a few zeros, I am sorry I hope that doesn't happen again. Also should I post a new tpic for me and warmasters war? To make the other one less cluttered?

[ooc:] No, we can pretty much stay on the current thread, it'll make things less confusing. So far there's only one major front anyway, in Warmaster, although it looks like this is eventually going to turn into an assault on Czardas as usual.... ;) Not that I'd mind, I need to test my defenses a little bit anyway. ^_^

Where is everyone?! Doom? Psov? Warmaster? What happened to you people?

thats what i was wondering...

Heh, almost forgot about this.

Shame on you!!! :eek:

Respond to my latest attack! RIGHT NOW! Or I'll bomb the cr*p out of .... um .... well, anyway, I'll do something really awful!

I'm working on my all-covering description of my continent. Sorry if you think I forgot this. Czardas, what happens next with the strike team thing? And I'm going to TG Psov to remind him this exists.

I'm working on my all-covering description of my continent. Sorry if you think I forgot this. Czardas, what happens next with the strike team thing? And I'm going to TG Psov to remind him this exists.
We've already TGed Psov a few times ourselves. He appears to be just inactive right now.

Czardas get off you're lazy ass and reply: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=453508
:p :D ;)

Czardas get off you're lazy ass and reply: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=453508
:p :D ;)
If you insist... :rolleyes:

No hijacking btw. This is for OOC material relating to the war against Warmaster only. (Or if you're one of those poor ignorant CAD fools, the war with Warmaster.)

OOC: What happened to the whole air battle thing?

The air battle? I don't know, Doom just kind of stopped responding.

The air battle? I don't know, Doom just kind of stopped responding.
Hey, I'm trying to find time to respond to that, keep your damned pants on! :)

It looks like you've been trying to find time for the last week or two... and I've seen you active, so I know you've been around. Don't worry, I've got plenty of time... You don't have to make an uber-long post, you know...

And "keep your pants on"?! Who do I look like, Blue Viper? :p

It seems very quiet on the IC thread lately...Everybody there?

I'm on about every day, but still nothing. Should we call off the RP? And whatever happened to Parthia and Voltarum, or Fluffywuffy for that matter? He mentioned some .... plans, but apparently never implemented them...

im on everyday as well, was waiting for Doom or someone else to repond to my fleet that is heading their way (toward your coast).

I guess they made it ;-)

I'm here, busy, but here, my fleet is just off-shore of Czardas, just waiting.

Voltarum... if no-one's challenged it yet, I think your fleet made it through.

Someone had better do something soon... either related to the air battle, or something else. Parthia was planning something on Khûfi Island, and was supposed to contact his allies, but he never posted it so I guess it fell through.

OK, I'm DEFINATELY gonna try and get a post in this weekend. Sorry about the waiting, guys.

You had better! :D

My troop currently deployed:

2nd Naval Armada; Admiral Eva Bock; Flagship SSRS 'Tranquility'

3x Neptune-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught Flight II (SDN)
4x Gavin Newsom-class Trimaran Hypercarriers (CVHN)
8x Atlantic-class Trimaran Large Battleships (BBAN)
8x Antietam-class Guided Missile Battleships (BBGN)
8x Valiant-class Trimaran Supercarriers (CVSN)
16x Agamemnon-class Arsenal Ships (AN)
48x General Dent-class Trimaran large Cruisers (CAN)
48x Montgomery-class Trimaran AA Cruiser (CAAN)
96x Evermore-class GP Destroyers (DDN)
96x Johnston-class AA Destroyer (DDA)
96x Wingate-class Trimaran AA Frigates (FGA)
96x McDonough-class ASW Frigates (FAS)
80x Navarre-Class Attack Submarine (SSN) (Usually operates independantly)
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607x Total Ships
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These fleets are usually accompanied by:

20x Pasteur-class hospital ships (HS)
30x Curie-Class Light Medical Ships (MSL)
50x Normandy-class Combat Transport Ships (CTS)
50x Endeavour-class Large Combat Transport Ship (CTSA)
40x Gabin-class roll-on/roll-off cargo vessels (RO/RO CV)
40x Quay-class amphibious assault and replenishment vessels (LHR)
40x Smith-class fuel and munitions transport vessels (FATV)
15x Aylesburgh-class submarine tender (ST)
40x Flansburgh-class fleet replenishment vessel (FRV)
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275x Total Ships
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Air Wing for a Naval Armada, does not include helicopters and UAVs carried by BBs and lower:
3x Neptune-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught Flight II (SDN)-Fighters: 24x F-620, 24x F-33, 24x F-63K; Helicopters: 12x AH-27As, 12x SH-4 Rabbit

4x Gavin Newsom-class Trimaran Hypercarriers (CVHN)-Fighters: 72x F-620, 72x F-33, 48x F-63K, 48x F/A-3, 48x F/A-128s; Helicopters: 12x AH-27As, 12x SH-4 Rabbit; 4x AWACs; 4x Tankers

8x Valiant-class Trimaran Supercarriers (CVSN)-Fighters: 24x F-620, 24x F-33 24x F-63K, 24x F/A-3, 24x F/A-128; Helicopters: 6x AH-27As, 6x SH-4 Rabbit, 2x AWACs, 2x Tankers

48x General Dent Class Large Cruiser(CAN)-Fighers 384x F/A-3V; 192x AH-27As, 192x SH-4 Rabbit
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Total Fighters: 552x F-620s, 552x F-33, 456x F-63K, 768x F/A-3s, 384x F/A-128s
Total Helicopters: 312x AH-27As, 312x SH-4 Rabbits
Total Other: 28x AWACs, 28x Tankers
Total: 3392x Aerial Assets

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[2nd We Buy It Inc. Fleet]

3x Valiant-class Trimaran Supercarriers (CVSN)
4x Atlantic-class Trimaran Large Battleships (BBAN)
4x Antietam-class Guided Missile Battleships (BBGN)
12x General Dent-class Trimaran Large Cruiser (CAN)
12x Montgomery-class Trimaran AA cruiser (CAAN)
24x Evermore-class GP Destroyers (DD)
24x Johnston-class AA destroyer (AADD)
48x Wingate-class Trimaran AA frigates (AAFG)
48x McDonough-class ASW frigates (ASWF)
40x Navarre-class SSN (Usually operates independantly)
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Total: 223 Combat Ships
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Air Wing:
3x Valiant-class Trimaran Supercarriers (CVSN)-Fighters: 36x F-620, 36x F-33, 24x F-63K, 24x F/A-128; Helicopters: 6x AH-27As, 6x SH-4 Rabbit, 2x AWACs, 2x Tankers

12x General Den-class Large Cruiser(CAN)-Fighters: 8x F/A-3V; Helicopters: 4x AH-27As, 4x AH-4 Rabbit
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Total Fighters: 108x F-620, 108x F-33, 72x F-63K, 72x F/A-128, 96x F/A-3V
Total Helicopters: 66x AH-27As, 66x SH-4 Rabbit
Total AWACs/Tankers: 6x AWACs, 6x Tankers
Total: 600 Aerial Assets

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[5th Air Group, 3rd Air Force]
Air Group (1320 Planes)
----Air Superiority Fighter Group (216 F-620s, 216 F-33s)
----Elite Air Superiority Fighter Group (72 F-63Ks)
----Fighter Bomber Group (216 F/A-128s)
----Multi-Role Group (216 F/A-3s)
----Bomber Group (96 B-300ELs, 96 B-301)
----Transport Group (96 C-116s, 96 C-115s)

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[1st and 2nd Heavy Marine Divisions]

------Heavy Division 25,050 men x4 [Reserve Division 19,350 men x4]
-----Tank Brigade 5,700 men (x2) [Only 1 for a Reserve Division]
500x ST-37K1A1 Next Generation Battle Tanks 3,000 men
300x M-89 'Lance Infantry Fighting Vehicle 2,700 men

-----Mechanized Brigade 8,600 men
500x M-89 'Lance Infantry Fighting Vehicle 4,500 men
300x LV-08 'Raptor' Armored Patrol/Light Truck 2,700 men
100x Armoured Personnel Carrier Mark III, "Marauder" 1,400 men

-----Artillery Brigade 5,050 men
200x SADV-8A1 (SSRA Designation: M-100 ADV) 800 men
200x "Corbulo" Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun 400 men
200x Multiple Launch Rocket System, Mark IV, "Ballista" 400 men
50x Self-Propelled Howitzer, Mark IV, "Maul" 250 men
400x Artillery Support Vehicle, Mark I, "Mule" 3,200 men

My troops currently deployed but still enroute, ETA <50 NS hours:

[3rd Naval Fleet and 4th Naval Fleet [Plus additional transports]]

1x Neptune-class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught Flight II(SD)
2x Gavin Newsom-class Trimaran Hypercarriers (CVHN)
4x Atlantic-class Trimaran Large Battleships (BBAN)
4x Antietam-class Guided Missile Battleships (BBGN)
4x Valiant-class Trimaran Supercarriers (CVSN)
8x Agamemnon-class arsenal ships (AN)
24x General Dent-class Trimaran large cruisers (CAN)
24x Montgomery-class Trimaran AA cruiser (CAAN)
36x Evermore-class GP Destroyers (DD)
36x Johnston-class AA destroyer (AADD)
48x Wingate-class Trimaran AA frigates (AAFG)
48x McDonough-class ASW frigates (ASWF)
40x Navarre-class SSN (Usually operates independantly)
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Total: 279 Combat Ships x2 = 558 (279 = one fleet, I have 2)
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Supply Ships
5x Pasteur-class hospital ships (HS)
10x Curie-Class Light Medical Ships (MSL)
75x Normandy-class combat ships (CBS)
75x Endeavour-class large combat transport ship (CBSA)
20x Gabin-class roll-on/roll-off cargo vessels (RO/RO CV)
20x Quay-class amphibious assault and replenishment vessels (LHR)
20x Smith-class fuel and munitions transport vessels (FATV)
5x Aylesburgh-class submarine tender (ST)
20x Flansburgh-class fleet replenishment vessel (FRV)
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Total: 250 Supply Ships x2 = 500
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Air Wing:
1x Neptune-Class Trimaran Super Dreadnaught Flight II (SDN)-Fighters: 24x F-620, 24x F-33, 24x F-63K; Helicopters: 12x AH-27As, 12x SH-4 Rabbit

2x Gavin Newsom-class Trimaran Hypercarriers (CVHN)-Fighters: 72x F-33, 72x F-620, 48x F-63K, 48x F/A-3, 48x F/A-128s; Helicopters: 12x AH-27As, 12x SH-4 Rabbit; 4x AWACs; 4x Tankers

4x Valiant-class Trimaran Supercarriers (CVSN)-Fighters: 24x F-33, 24x F-620, 24x F-63K, 24x F/A-3, 24x F/A-128; Helicopters: 6x AH-27As, 6x SH-4 Rabbit, 2x AWACs, 2x Tankers

24x General Den-class Large Cruiser(CAN)-Fighters: 8x F/A-3V; Helicopters: 4x AH-27As, 4x AH-4 Rabbit
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Total Fighters: 264x F-620s, 264x F-33s, 216x F-63Ks, 384x F/A-3s, 192x F/A-128s
Total Helicopters: 156x AH-27As, 156x SH-4 Rabbits
Total AWACs/Tankers: 12x AWACs, 12x Tankers
Total: 1656 Aerial Assets x2 = 3312

[3rd, 4th, 9th, 13th, 25th, and 26th Heavy Divisions]
25,050 Troops x 6 = 150,300 Troops

[6th Air Group, 3rd Air Force]
1320 Planes


All stats and specs of weapons here: http://s14.invisionfree.com/TSSTechCentral/index.php

1,250 combat ships? What is that, about half of your entire naval forces?

I suppose I ought to post a couple of specs here... for my enemies (and allies) to understand.

First Point of Order: Wherein Certain Naval Matters Are Discussed

All ships in the Czardaian Navy and Coast Guard are capable of carrying aerial assets, allowing for the deployment of Czardas's superior air power along with its less than impressive naval power swiftly. The numbers of planes decked on each ship vary to some extent -- some have none whatsoever for instance, while others had to cut down on their officer complement to carry more air power -- these are general averages.

Corvettes

Can carry a maximum of 12 Daggers, 6 Peregrines, 4 Strikers, or 4 Kestrels

Frigates

Can carry a maximum of 15 Daggers, 8 Peregrines, 5 Strikers, or 4 Kestrels

Destroyers

Can carry a maximum of 24 Daggers, 12 Peregrines, 8 Strikers, or 7 Kestrels

Cruisers

Can carry a maximum of 45 Daggers, 23 Peregrines, 15 Strikers, or 12 Kestrels

Battleships

Can carry a maximum of 60 Daggers, 30 Peregrines, 20 Strikers, 20 Kestrels, or 2 Hailstorms

Superdreadnaughts

Can carry a maximum of 144 Daggers, 72 Peregrines, 48 Strikers, 48 Kestrels, or 4 Hailstorms

Carriers

Depends on class (some can carry up to 432 Daggers, 218 Peregrines, 144 Strikers, 132 Kestrels, or 18 Hailstorms)

Super Carriers

Depends on class (some can carry up to 900 Daggers, 450 Peregrines, 300 Strikers, 288 Kestrels, or 30 Hailstorms)


Just clearing this up. Oh, and FTR, most ships smaller than destroyers rarely if ever carry aircraft. However, they do have the capability. (A lot of destroyers don't carry too many aircraft either, but there are special battle groups of escorts with air complements.)

Second Point of Order: Wherein Certain Czardaian Troop Deployments Are Outlined

Land Forces
Deployed to Port Khufi: 600,000 troops
Deployed to Mariosz: 275,000 troops
Deployed to bases along southern coast: 450,000 troops
Deployed to Aurdania spit: 400,000 troops
Deployed to all CAMERA headquarters: 35,000 troops each

Air Forces
Home-based Air Force: 7,200 planes (3,600 on standby)
Mobile Air Force: 6,087 planes (720 deployed to Torontia; 393 MIA in Warmaster)

Total Available Aerial Assets: 9,687 combat planes active; 3,600 inactive

Naval Forces
Deployed to Aurdania Spit: 3rd and 5th Bilateral Escort Battle Groups (BEBG) = about 20 cruisers, 42 destroyers, 36 frigates, 50 smaller escorts with air complement (I suck at all matters naval so I'll just pretend I know what classes they are :D)
Deployed to the south coast: 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th Carrier Battle Groups, 4th Bilateral Escort Battle Group = 4 carriers of assorted classes, 4 heavy battleships, 30 cruisers, 70 destroyers, 65 frigates, 60 assorted smaller escorts; approximately 1/4 with air complement

Defenses
At Mariosz: CAMERA grid (~80,000 torpedoes and ~55,000 missiles on red alert); SAM batteries (~1,500); EMP-equipped batteries (5); lasers (~100); 35", 30", 27", 25", 20", 16", 12", 8", and 5" cannons (along coast).

At Port Khufi: CAMERA grid (~65,000 torpedoes and ~50,000 missiles); SAM batteries (~1,600); lasers (~200); assorted cannons as in Mariosz

At Aurdania: CAMERA grid OFFLINE; AMM batteries (~50); SAM batteries (~350); lasers (~60); assorted cannons; cruise missile launchers (144)

At Tyriandor: CAMERA grid (~75,000 torpedoes and ~50,000 missiles); SAM batteries (~500); cannons

At Czarna: SAM batteries (~520); lasers (~150); EMP-equipped batteries (7); AMM batteries (~360)

All probable landing points have been equipped with pillboxes, machine-gun nests, traps, and everything else necessary to repulse an invasion.

OOC: Space Union Taskforce 100:

Naval Assets:

1st Federal Armada (1,402 ships; 14,500 aircrafts; 676 helicopters):
2x General Purpose Fleet
2x Multi-Role Naval Fleets

3rd Imperial Armada (1,402 ships; 14,500 aircrafts; 676 helicopters):
2x General Purpose Fleet
2x Multi-Role Naval Fleets

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1 General Purpose Fleet:

2 Couragous-Class Super Dreadnaught(BBGN)
2 Pax Magellanic Class Aircraft Carriers (CVN)
4 Gavin Newsom-Class Hypercarriers
5 Oceania-Class Escort Ship
8 Atlantic-class Trimaran large battleship
5 Brandywine-class light command dreadnaught
5 Resolute-class nuclear powered battleships (BBGN)
5 Patinkin-class fleet command vessel
10 Endymion-class Trimaran large cruiser
10 Sea-class guided missile battlecruisers (BC)
15 Monitor-class Trimaran heavy cruiser
20 Agamemnon-class arsenal ship
25 Mahan-class xebec
25 Holland-class ASW destroyer
25 Wingate-class Trimaran AA frigate
30 Seminole-class corvettes (FL)
50 Piranha-class fast missile boats
25 Ossipee-class special operations boats (50 RIBs/50 CRRCs included)
20 Steadfast-class SSBN/SSGN
10 Stalwart-class nuclear powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBN)
15 Minuteman-class SSK
20 Insurgent-class special operations submarines
10 Lake-class mine clearance vessels
20 Pasteur-class hospital ships (290) (5800)
10 Curie-Class Light Medical Ships (95) (950)
50 Normandy-class combat ships (355) (17,750)
25 Gabin-class roll-on/roll-off cargo vessels (76) (1900)
25 Smith-class fuel and munitions transport vessels (528) (13,200)
20 Aylesburgh-class submarine tender (300) (6000)
20 Flansburgh-class fleet replenishment vessel (300) (6000)
Crew: 219,155

1 Multi-Role Naval Fleet:

1 Couragous-Class Super Dreadnaught
3 Gavin Newsom-class Trimaran hypercarrier (13,895)
2 Resolute-class nuclear powered battleships (BBGN) (3,200)
2 Oceania-Class Escort Ships
4 Sea-class battlecruisers (BC) (2,660)
5 Praeton-class heavy cruisers (CA) (3,850)
10 Shield Bearer-class light cruisers (CL) (3,520)
15 Johnston-class AA destroyers (DD) (5,175)
20 McDonough-class ASW frigates (FF) (5,300)
25 Seminole-class corvettes (FL) (1,625)
10 Skipjack-class nuclear powered attack submarines (SSN) (900)
4 Stalwart-class nuclear powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBN) (420)
10 Pasteur-class hospital ships (2,900)
5 Curie-Class Light Medical Ships (475)
25 Normandy-class combat ships (8,875)
12 Gabin-class roll-on/roll-off cargo vessels (912)
12 Smith-class fuel and munitions transport vessels (6,336)
10 Aylesburgh-class submarine tender (3,000)
10 Flansburgh-class fleet replenishment vessel (3,000)
Crew: 93,833

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Naval Air Wing for Pax Magellanic Class Aircraft Carriers:

50x SuF/A-6N1 Sea Wraith Air Superiority Fighter
70x SuF-5N Sea Lions Single-Engine Multi-Role Fighter
20x SuF/A-6E/F Strike Wraith Strike Fighter
10x SuF-3N Howler Fighter-Bomber
5x SuKC-1N Stormfueler Tanker
5x SuE-1N Scanner AWACS
10x SuR-1N Super Blackbird Reconnisance Aircraft
20x SuF-4N Super Wolf Mach 4+ Interceptor
14x SAH-27 Peregrine Attack Helicopter
8x SZ-14 'Scorpion' Multi-Role Helicopter
5x SZ-15 Dragon Transport/ASW Helicopter
5x SZ-18 Hurricane Helicopter Gunship

Naval Air Wing for Gavin Newsom-class Trimaran hypercarrier:

80x SuF/A-6N1 Sea Wraith Air Superiority Fighter
100x SuF-5N Sea Lions Single-Engine Multi-Role Fighter
60x SuF/A-6E/F Strike Wraith Strike Fighter
40x SuF-3N Howler Fighter-Bomber
5x SuKC-1N Stormfueler Tanker
4x SuE-1N Scanner AWACS
15x SuR-1N Super Blackbird Reconnisance Aircraft
10x SAH-27 Peregrine Attack Helicopter
4x SZ-15 Dragon Transport/ASW Helicopter
2x SZ-18 Hurricane Helicopter Gunship

Naval Air Wing for Couragous-Class Super Dreadnaught:

60x SuF/A-6N1 Sea Wraith Air Superiority Fighter
80x SuF-5N Sea Lions Single-Engine Multi-Role Fighter
40x SuF/A-6E/F Strike Wraith Strike Fighter
20x SuF-3N Howler Fighter-Bomber
5x SuKC-1N Stormfueler Tanker
5x SuE-1N Scanner AWACS
10x SuR-1N Super Blackbird Reconnisance Aircraft
24x SAH-27 Peregrine Attack Helicopter
10x SZ-15 Dragon Transport/ASW Helicopter
20x SZ-18 Hurricane Helicopter Gunship

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Total Naval Air Assets: 29,000 aircrafts; 1,352 helicopters
Total Naval Ship Assets: 2,804 ships (surface, submersible, logistics, etc)
Total Manpower: 625,976 (sailors, logistics, air crew, pilots, etc)

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1st Composite Air Armada:

14x Heavy Fighter Wings (SuF/A-6A/B Wraith)
10x Strike Fighter Wings (SuF-3 Howler)
17x Multi-Role Fighter Wings (SuF-5 Lion)
10x Interceptor Wings (SuF-4 Super Wolf)
3x Cargo Wings (SuC-1 Stormbringer)
3x Tanker Wings (SuKC-1 Stormfueler)
8x Close-Ground Support Wings (SuA-1 Cat)
2x Electronics Wing (SuE-1 Scanner)
2x Heavy Bomber Wings (SuB-1 Hurricane)
3x Fast Bomber Wings (SuB-2 Streaker)
2x Medium Bomber Wings (SuB-3 T-Rex)
5x Air Gunship Wings (SuA-2 Tornado)

Total Air Assets: 11,384 aircrafts
Total Manpower: 193,528 (Pilots, Logistics, etc)

I'm jumping on the force list bandwagon as well! :D


Amphibious Task Force 'Righteous Fury'

1x Azaron-class Super Dreadnaught HIS Decius Aurelius
Surface combat ships
4x Monarch-class Super Dreadnaughts
17x Demon-class Battleships
6x Generalissimo J.L.-class Battleships
70x Nightbane-class Cruisers
252x Chaos-class Destroyers
164x Severance-class Frigates
124x Darkgate-class Attack/Stealth Frigates
11x Nessie-class Super Carriers
13x Seafoam-class Aircraft Carriers
304x Lernea-class SSNs
264x Dominis-class SSBNs

These are accompanied by the usual complement of hospital, supply, and transport ships (unlike TSS and SU I have a life, so I don't have the time to make up the classes and crews. That and I'm a lazy bum.)

Air assets breakdown (Nessie-class carriers) x11
50x IF-24A air superiority fighters
48x IF-24C escort fighters
36x IF-24D interceptors
36x IF-24E multirole fighters
8x IF-24V stealth fighters
6x ICA-3 AWACS
36x IA-71B attack bombers
30x IA-71F attack fighter-bombers
28x IF-19C light escort fighters
10x IB/X-21 VTOL stealth bombers
40x IU-1 UAVs
8x IU-2E hypersonic UCAVs (Mach 5+)

Air assets breakdown (Seafoam-class carriers) x13
20x IF-24A air superiority fighters
18x IF-24C escort fighters
12x IF-24D interceptors
10x IF-24E multirole fighters
20x IA-71F attack fighter-bombers
20x IF-19C light escort fighters
6x IB/X-21 stealth bombers
28x IU-1 UAVs

Air assets breakdown (HIS Decius Aurelius)
24x IF-24D interceptors
24x IF-24E multirole fighters
10x IA-71F attack fighter-bombers
2x IA-71B attack bombers
5x IB/X-21 VTOL stealth bombers
1x IB/X-21V modified stealth bombers
10x IU-1 UAVs

Air assets breakdown (Monarch-class SDN) x4
20x IF-24D interceptors
20x IF-24E multirole fighters
12x IA-71F attack fighter-bombers
24x IF-19C light escort fighters
12x IU-1 UAVs

Air assets breakdown (Generalissimo J.L.-class battleship) x6
6x IF-24E multirole fighters
4x IF-19C escort fighters
2x IA-71F attack fighter-bombers

Total Naval Ship Assets: 1,230 (excluding logistical ships)
Total Aerial Assets: 6,094

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5th Expeditionary Fleet
2x Monarch-class Super Dreadnaughts
12x Demon-class Battleships
46x Nightbane-class Cruisers
92x Chaos-class Destroyers
64x Severance-class Frigates
56x Darkgate-class Frigates
4x Nessie-class Super Carriers
6x Seafoam-class Carriers
100x Lernea-class SSGNs
72x Dominis-class SSBNs

12th Carrier Battle Group
1x Steelhead-class Hyper Carriers
1x Demon-class Battleships
6x Nightbane-class Cruisers
16x Chaos-class Destroyers
12x Severance-class Frigates
4x Darkgate-class Frigates
12x Lernea-class SSGNs
8x Dominis-class SSBNs

7th Dreadnaught Battle Group
1x Azaron-class Super Dreadnaughts
5x Nightbane-class Cruisers
18x Chaos-class Destroyers
12x Severance-class Frigates
4x Darkgate-class Frigates
10x Lernea-class SSGNs
6x Dominis-class SSBNs

Air assets breakdown (Steelhead-class Hyper Carriers)
80x IF-24A air superiority fighters
72x IF-24C escort fighters
60x IF-24D interceptors
64x IF-24E multirole fighters
12x IF-24V stealth fighters
8x ICA-3 AWACS
32x IA-71B attack bombers
64x IA-71F attack fighter-bombers
56x IF-19C light escort fighters
28x IF-19D recon fighters
10x IB/X-21 VTOL stealth bombers
80x IU-1 UAVs
10x IU-2E hypersonic UCAVs (Mach 5+)

Total Naval Ship Assets: 570
Total Aerial Assets: 2,952

3rd Long Range Air Armada
144x IF-24A air superiority fighters
120x IF-24C escort fighters
108x IF-24D interceptors
108x IF-24E multirole fighters
36x IF-24V stealth fighters
216x IF-19C escort fighters
144x IF-19F multirole fighters
108x IA-71B attack bombers
216x IA-71F attack fighter bombers
72x IB-92 medium bombers
60x IB-83D heavy bombers
8x ICP-4E/F AWACS
120x IU-43 jammer UAVs
60x IU-20 recon UAVs
30x IU-2F kamikaze hypersonic UCAVs (can withstand up to Mach 10 in kinetic energy)
36x ILoC-3 refueling planes
24x ILoC-3d backup refuels
24x ILoC-6 ammunition carriers

Total Aerial Assets: 1,616

[b]

1st) Boy, I bet I have more of a life in the last 2 minutes than you ever had in your entire life.
2nd) Exactly how do bombers take off your ships? A hypersonic aircraft is most likely bulky and is not capable of being housed on an aircraft carrier or taking off of one.

I have more of a life then you do, that's for sure, and I don't name my ship classes, Sarzonia does. :P

I've decided to do totals, so here:
Total Combat Ships: 1,388
Total Supply/Transport Ships: 775
Total Naval Based Aircraft: 7,304
Total Land Based Aircraft: 2,640 (Not including helos)
Total Army/Marine Troops: 200,400
Total IFVs/APCs, Light Trucks: 12,000
Total Artillery/AA Units: 3,600
Total Tanks: 8,000

I highly doubt you could sell an SDN for $10. You wouldn't make any profit and the net loss would be very felt finiancially for your entire empire.
[ooc: I know, my SDs are designed for a total cost of over $200 billion USD each, and my Conquest SeaCorp Inc. sells them for even more at times.

Also, SU, I spend more on keeping people out of my nation than Parthia's entire defence budget, and he can afford to throw fleets of over 1000 around. (True, Parthia doesn't have to pay for thought police and Black Shadowers along with the navy, army, and air force, but that accounts for the extra trillion or two.) Thus, you would do well to note that even with my entire 3600+ ship navy (counting submersibles etc.) out of port, getting into Banduria is going to be as tough as several kinds of hell.

Exactly how do bombers take off your ships? A hypersonic aircraft is most likely bulky and is not capable of being housed on an aircraft carrier or taking off of one.
Ever heard of VTOL? I'm fairly sure a VTOL bomber could take off a ship... as for the hypersonic UCAVs, as they are so bulky only super- and hypercarriers can carry them (I ought to edit that, but I'm too lazy *shamefacedly*). Remember, they don't need to support a human, so they can afford to be lighter even if they -are- hypersonic.

Oh, yeah... and I ought to post the long-range air armada I'm committing to the theatre.]

OOC: Its not just about how the bombers going to take off but exactly how can your carrier even supply and manage it? Bombers are very big making them very hard to keep on an aircraft carrier of any kind. Also VTOL is going to make it much more heavier making it harder to maintain the ship. Also hypersonic UCAVs are going to be extremely bulky. That powerplant is going to be so huge, I feel sorry for your aircraft carrier ship and personal. Also your airframe will have to be designed to withstand those heat making it bulky and heavy. Not only that but its going to eat fuel so fast, don't even think about having a lot of fighters on your aircraft carrier.

[I could always just have bigger carriers...

Ok, if the hypersonic UCAVs will be that much of a problem, I might as well get rid of them.... yeah, I'm not a strict RPer where it comes to that :p(I wonder what a manned hypersonic plane would be like? No engineer here.) As for the bombers... not all bombers would be that heavy, for example light bombers like mine.].

[I could always just have bigger carriers...

Ok, if the hypersonic UCAVs will be that much of a problem, I might as well get rid of them.... yeah, I'm not a strict RPer where it comes to that :p(I wonder what a manned hypersonic plane would be like? No engineer here.) As for the bombers... not all bombers would be that heavy, for example light bombers like mine.].

OOC: Can you give me a link to your bomber's stats?

OOC: Can you give me a link to your bomber's stats?
No, I didn't have the time...

No, I didn't have the time...

OOC: How are you going to RP then? You need stats for your bombers and stuff. You need more than just names.

OOC: How are you going to RP then? You need stats for your bombers and stuff. You need more than just names.
I'm actually really loose with stats where it comes to that. My bombers can go "a bit over Mach 2" and have "fairly average" wingspans with "medium" payloads.... yeah, sorry about that. When I have more time I'll draw up some appropriate stats, but time is the last thing I have right now... sorry :(

I'm actually really loose with stats where it comes to that. My bombers can go "a bit over Mach 2" and have "fairly average" wingspans with "medium" payloads.... yeah, sorry about that. When I have more time I'll draw up some appropriate stats, but time is the last thing I have right now... sorry :(
[ooc:] Trust me, I'm even worse...until recently I didn't even know what Mach 2 meant and thought 60 ships was a reasonable size for an entire navy. Then again I'm probably 2-10 years younger than most of the other people who play this game.

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