NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC:
Alright. I'm thinking of making several puppet nations to use as protectorates. I've called my nation an Empire for as long as i've been with this game but i only have my nation. Empires normally have protectorates as well so i've come to the conclusion to make a few.

The top 3 choices will be protectorates for my nation.

ADDED NOTE:
For those voting. I am doing the percentages on my own in Excel. So the percentages that you see next to the number of votes don't matter in this.

OOC: Excellent news dude. I made The Dictatorship of Hirgizstan into the Commonwealth of Hirgizstan a couple of years ago. I had four nations at once, so I thought why not combine them all, makes governing them easier thats for sure. You pick roughly the same issues etc. And you get a bigger population etc. Last I checked mine was about 16 Billion over 4 different Colonies including 'Hirgizstan'.

Better to call the 'protectorates' 'Colonies'. An Empire or a Commonwealth has Colonies, whereas an Empire's protectorate is something like Great Britain and Canada during the late 19th Century, not strictly a colony, but not standing alone yet either.

OOC:
I'll think about that. I'm busy working out a map for them. I'm thinking for them to have the title be "The Holy (protectorate or colony) of (Nation Name)". What do you think about that?

OOC: Well, for instance, one of my colonies is called 'The Hirgizstanian Commonwealth of Victories'. I could also call it 'The Hirgizstanian Colony of Victories', but the latter sounds too 'stand-alone' for me.

You could call it 'The Shazbotdomese Commonwealth/Empire of [Colony Name]'. Or you could go with your own suggestion, its up to you which one sounds better, or reads better.

One of mine is called 'The Commonwealth of Hirgizstanian Nations'. It doesn't read all that well though. Its basically an island chain of about 12 different nations, thus its very ungainly name. So be careful to mull the names over for a bit before you commit to one.

Yeah. I'll think about it for now

With 11 Voters and a total of 23 Votes. Halnara and Alriabris are in the lead. There is a three way tie bwtween Bolrasha, Joloogrand, and Leearna. If any more votes come in i will update everyone.

OOC: Excellent news dude. I made The Dictatorship of Hirgizstan into the Commonwealth of Hirgizstan a couple of years ago. I had four nations at once, so I thought why not combine them all, makes governing them easier thats for sure. You pick roughly the same issues etc. And you get a bigger population etc. Last I checked mine was about 16 Billion over 4 different Colonies including 'Hirgizstan'.

Better to call the 'protectorates' 'Colonies'. An Empire or a Commonwealth has Colonies, whereas an Empire's protectorate is something like Great Britain and Canada during the late 19th Century, not strictly a colony, but not standing alone yet either.

If you're thinking of RP'ing as all of these nations combined, many people are likely to ignore you. It's poor form to even have puppets of yours combine under one nation in the first place.

Yeah. You ought to do what I do - I RP as my main nation with it's population, but I RP my colonies as well having their own forces etc which I dont use unless the colonies themselves are directly attacked, which I think is fair. On the other hand, I RPed getting all my colonies, I didnt just make some puppets and change my nation prefix. *shrug* What you could always do is RP your population being that of your whole Empire, with the "main nation" having only a fraction of that, and RP as the whole thing.

Yeah. You ought to do what I do - I RP as my main nation with it's population, but I RP my colonies as well having their own forces etc which I dont use unless the colonies themselves are directly attacked, which I think is fair. On the other hand, I RPed getting all my colonies, I didnt just make some puppets and change my nation prefix. *shrug* What you could always do is RP your population being that of your whole Empire, with the "main nation" having only a fraction of that, and RP as the whole thing.

What i was going to do was RP them as individual nations with their own forces also. Although the rest i was not sure about. I could give them their own military or use my main military to defend them, but i'm debating this in my head currently. They would follow the constitution of the Empire but have their own laws like states in the US. If anyone has any more ideas then that would be helpful to me. I've never RPed multiple nations before so i wouldn't mind someone helping me with this.

I like Kravnlo and Joloogrand. Best of luck.

What i was going to do was RP them as individual nations with their own forces also. Although the rest i was not sure about. I could give them their own military or use my main military to defend them, but i'm debating this in my head currently. They would follow the constitution of the Empire but have their own laws like states in the US. If anyone has any more ideas then that would be helpful to me. I've never RPed multiple nations before so i wouldn't mind someone helping me with this.

If they are to function in the same way as US states, then I would suggest you simply artificially divide your own nation up. This is what I have done, in essence -- the Charr lands are made up of at least a dozen 'clans' which all function as sovereign nations , essentially. Some of the smaller clans even war against each other. But when it comes to 'outsiders', all the clans function as one via a council of their leaders. This method is easier, as you can vary the populations of all the clans/states/nations/counties/colonies/protectorates at will so long as you retain the NS population. You can also form new states, destroy old states, etc etc at will without having to create/abandon separate NS nations. And of course, because it involves no puppets and no artificial inflation of your population/economy/military forces, there are no foreseeable problems with it when dealing with other players.

If you are dead-set on RPing with multiple nations, though, you will probably encounter problems. As Euroslavia said, many people won't accept 'puppeteering' on any level. Even though you are not using them to bolster your main nation's stats, your main nation will be bolstering their stats, unless none of the nations ever interact in any way (which defeats the object somewhat, doesn't it?). You would have to make it very clear at the start of every RP what it is you were going to be doing with them, and get whoever is participating to accept it (under these circumstances, depending on the quality of the RP and story I probably would, but many wouldn't). It is also less flexible in terms of RP creativeness, and a lot of hassle to log in and out of multiple different nations. I would advice against it for those reasons alone.

I'll probably only them if they are attacked, but not any other time.


Although thanks for the ideas. I'll think them over.

UPDATE

Votes are as follows (Using percentages based in Microsoft Excel):
Halnara -- 12 Votes ------ 34.29%
Kravnlo -- 4 Votes ------ 11.43%
Bolrasha -- 6 Votes ------ 17.14%
Joloogrand -- 4 Votes ------ 11.73%
Alriabris -- 6 Votes ------ 17.14%
Leearna -- 3 Votes ------ 8.57%


Leaders are Halnara, Bolrasha, and Alriabris.

Voted for Kravnlo

For obvious reasons...

Fuck. I just noticed that i keep misspelling it in the updates. Better go fix that....heh

***EXIT POLLS***

Alright. Polls are closed now. The Nations listed below are going to be Protectorates (or Colonies) of the Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom.

THE 1 PLACE NATION NAME IS:
Halnara with 17 Votes (28.81%).

THE 2 PLACE NATION NAME IS:
Bolrasha with 10 Votes (16.95%).

THE 3 PLACE NATION NAME IS:
Alraibris with 9 Votes (15.25%).