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Going....No, not FT. MT! (OOC discussion + intro thread)

Hyperspatial Travel
24-10-2005, 09:10
Well, after a stint of FT RPing, which I'll still do, I'm getting a little bored with the endless streams of ships, men, and uberweapons which defy physics, all written in less than two lines each. I'm still RPing FT, but, partially in order to get a handle on what you MT guys complain about in us FT physics-wackers, and partially because over half the RPs here are MT, and I'm missing out on a fair bit of excellent RPing, I'm going to introduce the newly-produced MT side of my nation!

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Firstly, it'll still be a League. A loose-knit community of much, much smaller nations, (about 20), with an average size of 200 million each, willing to backstab each other for personal gain.

This League will based on a set of city-islands, and a hotly contested (In terms of commerce and economics) small continent, in which all farming takes place.

The mining industry takes place in undersea operations, and all oil is imported, although car engines run on a mix which is only 35% oil, making the imports far less than they would normally be.

Each nation of the Allied League has their own small defense force (approx 1% of their population, no conscription, and 75% of the army are support personnel), and are required to come to each other's aid in times of war, although they can declare war by themselves.

Each nation possesses no WMDs, nor weapons of mass destruction, nor anything more deadly than an AK-47. Living on overcrowded cities has meant a huge crackdown on violence, and the death penalty for the first violent offence.

The navy is mostly a police force, and the airforce spends most of its time dusting crops, rather than training against each other. The Allied League has no armoured divisions, although it does have some reconnaisance units, and any military buildup is so strongly discouraged by the other members of the League, that it barely ever happens, if at all.

OOC: Well, any comments? I've got a thunderstorm coming up, or I would type more. Feel free to dump any complaints or (surely not) ... un-complaints right here on the doorstep of this thread!
Saint Fedski
24-10-2005, 09:17
Dear Sir,

Realizing that you are a relatively under developed nation, the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski would like to help you out in anyway possible. We have experience diplomats that we can send to you League to help relations between your many nations. We also have teachers and a security force that can help police/defend your nation. Our arms manufacturing industry is growing quickly and looking for new markets. The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski is willing to set up a trading relationship and a diplomatic relationship. We look forward to you reply.

Sincerely,
The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski Economic Council
Hyperspatial Travel
24-10-2005, 10:12
League Communique

"We appreciate the offer, but diplomats have little to do with the tensions within the League; tensions will always be there, and we deal with them as best we can. If nothing else, it prompts the farmers to bring the best quality goods to market.

We do not, however, appreciate the offer of arms. Guns are forbidden in the League, apart from those in the military, and even our police simply use tranquilizers. It has been this way for hundreds of years, and it has kept tensions from boiling over, as well as leaving our murder rate at less than an average of seven persons per year(disregarding executions), a remarkable achievement, you must admit, in the face of having over 4 billion people.

We are quite willing, however, to contract the services of engineers, as well as purchasing crude oil, two things our nation is lacking in. We have a huge amount of talented computer developers, programmers, and one of our primary exports is computer hardware, software, and games. If you wish to order or purchase software, or contract teams to develop to your personal need, we're the ones to call!

We would, however, appreciate teams of engineers to help construct a series of defensive missile systems, in order to counteract any nuclear weapons that may (advertantly or inadvertantly) be launched at our fair cities.

- Your appreciately, Frederick Marshal, sub-Minister for External Affairs.
Hyperspatial Travel
24-10-2005, 10:33
(Note: Unless specified otherwise, all information is of an OOC nature)

The League's military (1/10 of each nation's military) consists of 2 million troops, only 1/100 of which are full-time soldiers. 90% of League forces are reserves, and, as such, only 3.8 million troops in the entire 4.1 billion League are actually active at more than 50% of the time, and only 127,000 troops are full-time, professional soldiers.

The League tends to outfit soldiers exceptionally well, in the matter of armour, vehicles, and lifestyle. Soldiers no longer camp in tents, they have their own personal unfoldable car, with room for two beds, a small refridgerator, and a gas stove, as well as a computer, with satellite uplink, or, if the satellite is knocked out, wireless. Soldiers, who risk their lives for their nation, are given 10 votes in matters of war, and are allowed to refuse to go to the battlefront, although at the cost of expulsion from the military.

Most League citizens live in 'cell-houses', houses which are stacked on top of many others, and are only a metre tall (empty space only) three metres long, and a metre-and-a-half wide, (all of this is the measurements of the empty space on the inside), once the mattress, inbuilt computer, refridgeration unit, and television (on the 'roof of the house) have all been built in. Doors are automated, although they have manual overrides, and families generally congregate to cook food, or purchase some from the numerous vending machines around any one of the huge cities.

Interestingly enough, the League, as an entire body, votes on every major matter, every time. Once two of these three tests: fingerprint scan, voice scan, and retina scan have all been passed, citizens can cast their vote, as well as giving their opinion, either in the comfort of their own home (for richer citizens), or in one of the numerous voting booths.

Crime is unknown, as few people have carriable object to steal, all money transfer generally done via computer, although talented hackers are not punished, but are forcibly hired by the government, (and paid well, I might add) in order to maintain electronic superiority over the populace, and develop government software. The government sells products, although generally only basic operating systems for the computers, and a few other vital needs, but enough to keep the funding level healthy.

The League welcomes trade, and has no tariffs on any imports, unless a nation places a tarriff on League products, in which case, the angered people will generally vote for tarriffing the people who did so to them.

Pollution is high, although the 35% fuel does help to reduce the smog level, and trees are grown on top of all buildings, mandatoraily, in order to reduce it even further.

The League has a veritable future in luxury cruises, allowing businessmen to work from a boat, and, indeed, retirement to a boat is one of the most common practices in the League, and retirement age is relatively low, at 52.

Life expectancy, for law-abiding citizens, is 92, although you are expected to pay for your own retirement, and all pleas for welfare are met with deportation, and the life expectancy for criminals (non-violent), is 34. Violent crimes (Essentially, anything severe enough to hospitalize the victim), are punished with an unreducable death sentence. Criminals who are non-violent are essentially sold into a certain amount of 'slavery', instead of being kept in jails, their citizenship records are given into the hands of the highest bidder, and they are still allowed to carry on with their normal lives, but must work for the company which contracts their 'services'.
Saint Fedski
24-10-2005, 10:38
Mr. Marshal,

Our sincere apologies for offending you. Our newly formed 4th Engineering Battalion has been issued the standby order. They can be deployed in a couple days.

Commander: Captain Pierre LeBlanc

-- 300 Engineers (experienced, most combat experienced too)
-- 76 Heavy Equipment Operators
-- 4 large cranes
-- 2 small cranes
-- 10 Steamshovels
-- 25 dumptrucks
-- 1 Heavy Lift Helicopter
-- 2 CH-47 Chinooks
-- 2 Graders
-- 10 Forklifts
-- 4 Bulldozers
-- 1 Heavy Bulldozer
-- 3 Concrete Mixers

Sincerely,

Sir Jesse Russell, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Molly Spragg, Minister of Commerce
Hyperspatial Travel
24-10-2005, 10:49
Message to Fedski -

No, no, I was not offended. We simply abhor arms, and I was a little surprised, perhaps I have been too cloistered. However, we simply wish engineers, replete with plans, as it is rather difficult to construct such things in the cities of the League, and we would prefer to use our own custom-made, minitaurized machinery, as most of our streets are not made for cars, let alone such heavy machinery.

We will be willing to pay a sum of $1.2 million per year per engineer, as well as paying whatever you think is fair for the plans. However, we would prefer it if all construction work could be carried out by League citizens, as so not to deny anyone work.


- Your appreciately, Frederick Marshal, sub-Minister for External Affairs.
Saint Fedski
24-10-2005, 12:39
Maybe I should invade :rolleyes:
Aust
24-10-2005, 13:05
OOC:Interersting

IC: My dear sirs of the League, I have noted with interest the devlopment of your emerging nation. However you must relaise that todays world is a dangerious place and your evidently non-agressive society, while being highly commendable, is unworkable in todays social and international climate.

Undoubtedly at some stage in your future someone will attack adn attempt to annex your nation, desipacable as it may seem-I have seen it happen many times before and it would be a shame if your nationwas to fall pray to such a monster.

Thus i propose an allince, mainly for trade and the exchange of technologys. Aust can provide you with many of the naccesitys that a growing nation needs-coal, iron, oil and financial serivces are all abundent in Aust. However due to our uneque climate growing food is not, and so we ask if we could trade our resources and skills for food.

Should you need arms we shall give them to you but I highly doubt that in a society such as yours you will. And that brings me to the second part of our preposed allince, should any nation attack you i pledge upon mine, and my countrys, honour that i shall not let your nation fall though it may cost me and my countryment there lives. This clause would require nothing from you, you would not be bound to aid Aust should we be attacked, though if you choose to you may aid us adn your help would be appreciated.

I beg you to concider this allince as it would further the aims of both our nations.

Yours faithfully,
Emporer William of Aust
Listeneisse
24-10-2005, 14:48
To: Mr. Frederick Marshal, sub-Minister for External Affairs, Interstellar Realm of Hyperspatial Travel

From: Mr. George Din Tywi, Executive Vice President of Sales, Astralabor Rocketry & Missile, Ltd.

Dear sir,

In this day and age, when brutal, warlike dictators rule continents and command arsenals of widely-proliferated weapons of mass destruction, it is appropriate for peace-loving nations and regions to consider the best way to ensure their stability and security without having to resort to the nihilistic armageddon of Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD).

The Kingdom of Listeneisse has enjoyed domestic peace and freedom from international threat of nuclear attack because of a robust system of theatre defense missiles and orbital Kinetic Kill Vehicles (KKVs) researched and manufactured by our company, Astralabor Rocketry & Missile, Ltd. (Symbol: ARML.KOL).

We understand the need to keep national security a national asset, and appreciate the sensitivity most nations have towards revealing security strengths and exposures to the outside world, never mind committing their nation's defenses and defense budgets to the hands of an international arms merchant who might also be selling weapons to their opponents.

Therefore, unlike many nations who would wish to simply sell you missile defenses, we wish to set up a partnership for technology transfer, ongoing development, and local manufacturing under license.

Our engineering staff members would be selected and approved by your government to work in your nation. We would request that any problems with legal issues first be brought to the Kingdom's government so that local Listeneisse law could be applied and the person withdrawn and extradited with swiftness and decorum rather than risk international embarrassment.

The Kingdom of Listeneisse has so far built nearly 10,000 theatre defense missiles and launched an ever-growing network of over 60 Kinetic Kill Vehicles (KKVs). Though we ourselves began producing foreign designs built under license (q.v., see enclosed datasheets, "Patriot MIM-104" (http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-104.html) and "Patriot PAC-3" (http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app4/pac-3.html)), our drive for excellence influenced the basic design for the specific needs of our national military. Astralabor's proprietary components were in each of those weapons to date. Now, many of the latest models have been entirely designed by ARM's engineers. We continue to provide innovative modifications to existing weapons, updating them with technology refresh programmes designed to keep them capable of meeting the latest threats the world has to offer.

The Kinetic Kill Vehicle and High-Altitude/Suborbital (HASO) programmes are classified by our government. However, if you wish to enter into a possible contract with our firm, we could introduce you to members of our government involved in aerospace defense. We cannot make commitments, of course, but we can take to initiate discussions in that regard. In preliminary talks with our liaison officers, the government is open to such technology export pending thorough review and approval of the plans. They have consented to our firm's contact of your government.

Sadly, nuclear weapons are "cheap" in comparison to nuclear defenses, just as the annual cost of medical and life insurance is expensive, running thousands of HT Monetary Units annually compared to the cost of a single 7.62mm bullet which can end a life at any moment. To complete the analogy, the costs of medical care in cases of traumatic attack are far worse than the cost of the insurance. And no amount of monetary compensation can bring back a life lost or crippled due to a bullet, nor can it revive a civilization wracked by nuclear war. Therefore, prevention is imperative. We understand the life expectancy of your citizens is quite high already. They, and their children and grandchildren, deserve all affordable and prudent safeguards to ensure a long and fruitful life of peace.

Therefore we urge you to consider expanding and modernizing your theatre cruise missile and ballistic missile defense programmes. And if Astlabor Rockets & Missiles, Ltd. can be of service, to let us know.

With much R&D already behind us, you could benefit from the cost savings of licensing for production or purchasing units of some of our existing designs. Services beyond that, such as storage, maintenance and localizing manufacturing processes, technical training, deployment, project planning and management can ensure that we just do not sell you weapons walk away, leaving you to figure out how to integrate them into your military forces.

Alternatively to sharing existing designs, your government could contract with us to make a new defense system to your specification, allowing our design team free reign to start from scratch, or to modify a pre-existing design already in your arsenal. As each nation is different, the systems to defend it and the circumstances of their deployment may vary. We do not believe that defense systems are "one-size-fits-all." Therefore, feel free to put us to the technical challenge if you so desire. We are capable of both orbital and sub-orbital defense systems design.

We are capable of acting as a prime contractor for other related components such as radar, guidance, communications, transport and launch systems, and so on. We are also branching out into energy weapons through a series of recently-acquired subsidiaries.

As you can see, our firm has a strong portfolio, and is interested in assisting other nations to build out their own portfolio of defenses. I look forward to your reply, and thank you in advance for the opportunity to meet to further discuss details, or to hear any feedback you might have.

Sincerely,

George Din Tywi
Mr. George Din Tywi
Executive Vice President of Sales
Astralabor Rocketry & Missile, Ltd.
Listeneisse
27-10-2005, 09:26
Elizabeth came in and flashed that gorgeous morning smile. It always made George's heart skip a beat.

"Any news from the Interstellar Realm?" she teased him.

It took just a second for him to gather his mind on business. He moused over his computer screen and checked for email or web updates. It helped him concentrate if he didn't have to look at her directly. Though he was Executive Vice President of Sales, and could usually maintain an unflappable demeanor, Elizabeth Mantle was... Well. She was different.

"Ah. No. Not yet."

"Well, I'm sure they'll ring us if they wish to take us up on our offer."

She walked around the desk to look over his screen. He smiled back over his shoulder at her. Then she pointed out something on his computer, "Are you sure it was supposed to be to the Interstellar Realm of Hyperspatial Travel? Here it says, 'Allied League'. Perhaps you sent it to the wrong address?"

He jerked his head around. Oh dear heavens!

Embarrassedly, he changed the address to which it was supposed to be delivered and resent it.

Quite embarrassing.

With a musical laugh, Miss Elizabeth Mantle, Director of Marketing Communications, waved and left. "A good deed done before nine in the morning!"

Outside in her cubicle, George's Executive Assistant hung up a new picture of wild ducks and watched in amusement as Miss Mantle sauntered down the hall.

(ooc: If you are going to create a nation to RP MT, will you be creating a puppet under a certain name, or using ILHT?)