NationStates Jolt Archive

Introduction; Out of Character

I think that this thread warrants a long out of character introduction, simply because there's a simple form I want this to follow. But first, note that this thread is completely open, meaning you can post, as long as it's completely in character. If you want to leave an out of character message please do so here (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=444944), which is my official pan-NS out of character thread. Thank you.

Second, this thread deals with my armed force's general improvement, and this thread is designed to be ongoing, meaning it may never end, since all new technology released will be developed and posted here. Now, this is designed to be follow a charater roleplay, although when the unit is finished it will be posted in here in my normal fashion, a write-up with statistics.

What can you do here?

Well, you can come in as a nation, or a group of scientist, if you want to develope a project jointly. All projects will be developed in character in a series of discussions between scientists and whatever else you or I may cook up. You'll get the picture as a go through my first new units. If you do want to join in that fashion, please make sure you're a relatively good role player; I don't want any short role plays here; well, short and without content.

Other than that, you can make purchases, just like a storefront, however, please make sure you roleplay all purchases, and I would prefer that they were rather lengthy. Mind, not super lengthly, but perhaps around five hundred characters? What I would really, really love is that your purchases are also in character roleplay fashion, but if you absolutely cannot do that, then a conventional order is fine, as long as it's well roleplayed.

Thank you.

List of Completed Projects

P.746.X Praetorian Surface to Air Variants Pg. 1 - P. 1 through 4

Mandalay, Dienstad

Scientist Ricardo Schumer shook his head as he read the initial reports on the Praetorian. The old missile, infamously known as the Praetorian V, widely used throughout the world, suffered from a multitude of problems, including an overly complex system, and the fact that it couldn't fly at low altitudes, and that there wasn't a variant that would do it, as a consequence, low altitude anti-aircraft operations was always left to the anti-air artillery batteries. This became a problem as armored aircraft appeared, such as the American A10 Warthog, who's survivability was incredibly high towards surface fire. Of course, a good round from a 75mm anti-air artillery gun could send that Warthog to the River Hades, only the 75mm suffered from the problem that if the Warthog flew low enough it was above its range, meaning that it had to be left to the 57s, which sometimes were not strong enough, or who's shots were not accurate enough, to successfully down the aircraft. This had spured the Empire to quickly employ Kriegzimmer for further designs, and they had got to working on it almost immediately.

Schumer, as the lead scientist in the Praetorian project, was forced to look over all design concepts, and previous to that, lay out the design restrictions and assumptions. Originally, he had to design a whole new missile, but Schumer was able to persuade the administration to simply re-design the Praetorian V, and simply re-name it the Praetorian surface to air missile, with an official designation of the P.746.A, while the variants would follow the lead variable and the number, but with a different end variable which denoted the variant. The final decision was decided by the local success of the Praetorian II mobile surface to air batteries recently released with a smaller, 5.2 meter, version of the Praetorian, which was to act as a tencil, if you will, for the official variants. There would be four new variants total, excluding the smaller variant for the mobile battery, and one of them would be an actual surface to air missile, while two others were to be anti-sattelite missiles, and the final was to be an anti-ballistic missile.

The first thing to work on was the P.746.A, the actual surface to air missile, as all others, excluding the P.746.E, would be roughtly based on the original design. The other scientist in the group talked amongst themselves as Schumer completed the review of the original prerequisites of the project, and he abruptly turned to them and said,"OK." The immediate concern for the group was the dimension and aerodynamics of the body of the missile, since that would directly dictate the dimensions and workings of the battery, which would be the most crucial part of this system when it came to the context of working.

The missile was finally decided at 6.3 meters, with a bottom diameter of about .8 meters. The missile's center of gravity [CG] was going to be closer to the Earth, regardless of it's center of mass, which was dictated to be just above the center of the missile, consequently, the design would have to include four stabalizing fins just like other modern surface to air missile designs. The largest problem was how to solve transonic velocity problems, since the missile was technically designed to be able to fly at subsonic velocites, as well as supersonic velocties. In the end, the team had just gone with the fact that the missile would most likely suffer during the subsonic velocities, and decided that its priority design would follow prerequisites for supersonic flight. However, it was a simple necessity that the Praetorian was able to follow subsonic patterns for greater manuevarability in flight, although there were plans to install a counterflow thrust vectoring azipod on either side of the missile. Nonetheless, following the footsteps of the Aster 30, the Praetorian was designed for capabilities of 60G manuevers.

For the sake of simplicity and order, Schumer had designed the warhead second, since the powerplant and propulsion system would depend directly on the size and weight of the warhead, as well as the shape and size of the missile itself. The warhead, going with the prerequisites the military officials in the Empire's administration had written up, was to be seventy kilograms high explosive, using a hit-to-kill system and a proximity fuse system. However, the kicker came when considering the nature of the warhead, since it wasn't just a high explosive. Indeed, in the core of the warhead, a small shoe, or sabot type system, held a string of titanium balls, about 1cm in diameter, and upon explosion, the engineers had designed it so that the string of balls were dispersed through a temporary centrifuge, meaning in a three hundred and sixty degree arc, spitting out hundreds of these balls into the air, acting as a high intensity killer, perfect when working to defeat missile saturations. The effect diameter of the hit range of the missile's warhead was just about two meters for the high explosive, and up to ten meters depending on air conditions for the high intensity balls.

The final decision for the powerplant was to be two seperate powerplants for the two seperate variants, the P.746.A and the P.746.B. The former would be a transonic, high altitude, long range intercept missile, designed to act both to intercept incoming ballistic missiles and aircraft/missiles, and the latter was to be a low altitude, short range surface to air missile. The P.746.A was equipped with a two stage propulsion system, including a single-stage solid propellant rocket motor, which would break off in-flight to reveal a ramjet. This would mark the P.746.A as a gas guzzler, however, the centerpiece was an exceptionally large fuel tank, which explained the full meter which the P.746.A had over the Pac-3. The P.746.B used a simple single-state solid propellant rocket motor, making it somewhat conservative in gas use, and perfect for short range and subsonic intercept flights.

Ricardo Schumer and his team had worked for months, looking over all possibilities and resting on these. The idea was not to create something revolutionary; instead, something that was known to be effecient, and that would do fairly well in upcoming wars. Indeed, the failures of the Praetorian V missiles during the ongoing War of Golden Succession were not acceptable, and their lack of low altitude targetting made them completely obsolete on the modern battlefield, and was making it incredibly hard for the Empire go gain air superiority over their own country, with Havenite aircraft already pouring in, as the Praetorian Vs had either been expended, destroyed, or were hiding in their hardened underground bunkers to avoid detection and subsequent destruction. With this team's job done, as the missile had completed the basic aerodynamics and fluid mechanics prerequisites, the design would be passed on to a seperate team, and for that Schumer, the plans, and the prototype of the missile's body would have to fly to Arras in two days to meet up with a systems and sensor team.

Golden Luftwaffe Industries, Dienstad

Head engineer Karl Vectar felt the body of the missile, whisteling, and he took another look at the beauty with his eyes. They had received the basic outline of what was decided at the Mandalay talks, however, some things had been changed, others had not been implemented, and once could say the missile, except for the statistics and larger things, was nothing like what was described at Mandalay. This finished missile would be sent to Arras the next day, and there it would undergo systems and sensor management, and this would turn into a real missile. Indeed, when Vectar first received the general outline for the missile's body he turned to one of his fellow engineers, who was actually his subordinate to the project, and with an exasperated look said,"60Gs are great, but how the hell do they want us to do that?"

In the end, it all worked out though with a little physics magic. Indeed, the same problem had arised during the F-18 project, where the current model only got 7.5Gs, and they wanted to increase it to 9Gs. The ultimate response was to put together a meeting for an Iniative Advanced Composite Joint Analysis which accomplished modest changes to the titanium steel lap fitting, and this was underscored by StressCheck testing and the Strain Invariant Failure Theory (SIFT). Nonetheless, using almost exact techniques in design and production the P.746.A was ultimately designed for 60G turns, as the prerequisites stated.

The core of the missile was made out of Phenolic Resin-Impregnated Aramid Paper Honeycomb Core Material (PRIAPHM), and when saturated with resin the materian provides enhanced mechanical properties including the general fact that the missile is lighter than anything else with any other known material. Throughout the P.746.X project, however, there were manufacturing problems, that were only solved after Victar and his team had looked into common American manufacturing of all naval units, including similar missiles. Nonetheless, the production of the resin itself almost outweighed the rest, almost throwing the missile and its production out the window, nonetheless, the subsequent project put out Vacuum Assited Resin Transfer Molding, which simply applies compressed pressure instead of using precision or strength. The implementation of the technology would ultimately cost the Empire two million United States Dollars, but in the end it would make a huge cost difference in the mass production of said missiles. The inner layer of the hull of the missile is composed of a thin line of Thymonel 8, a much used Aluminum based Nickel Superalloy, which offered greater heat resistance, stress resistance, tear resistance, and protection against hydrogen enviroment embrittlement, which would be a huge factor in the air-breathing models [the ramjet].

The engine proposed by Schumer and his team was perfect, and consequently, it was implemented. The rocket nozzels were designed out of ISOCARB 140 a very widespread alloy, regardless, it suffered the same problem as the resin, although most had to do with labor. Nonetheless, there were certain ways to reduce cost, including in-line manufacturing supervision, without the needed labor, and stiffened rods.

With that, the work at the GLI headquarters had been finished, and the product that came out had been perfect, including a lighter weight body, and more heat and stress resistant rocket nozzles, allowing for a greater lifespan of the missile, and ergo, a greater range. However, unfortunately, Doctor Karl Vectar couldn't merely send the finished missile to Arras without testing, which was perhaps one of the most important things in missile design. Consequently, the missile was sent by truck back down to Mandalay, where it was put through rigorous heat testing and flight testing without the guidance. When that was over, and after minor changes, the missile was finally sent by a convoy of trucks up to Macabea, where it would be shipped by cargo ship to the Provence of Talavera, where it would have to again be trucked by land to Arras, where it would be looked at, and the sensors would be designed. From there, the missile would go back to Greater Luftwaffe Industries were it would go one final review, and then production would begin, which would lead to the eventual flight testing and to end the process, it would begin mass production, along with the battery. Then, the process would begin anew with the other variants of the missile, although fortunately, all except the P.746.E were basically the same thing, with only a few tweaked statistics.

All the while, the tired Karl Vectar and his team went to the local Starbucks to finally be able to sit back and relax. They all knew they had more work ahead of them, and they all knew it was their time to sleep while they had the chance.

Arras, Talavera

Dr. Schuster came two nights after he had finished with his own project and had to do without the missile for the first two weeks of the project. So, the first thing he and his new began to develope was the wiring of the missile, beginning with all theoritical choices they had in front of them. The optical conductor was copper, however, since the advent of conductors, there was the even greater advent of superconductors, and frankly one would prefer superconductors to just plain conductors. In the end, the team decided to follow the decisions made during the conferences in the United States, headed by the National Center for Excellence in Metalworking Technology [NCEMT], and use the lost cost Aluminum Stabilized NbTi Superconducting Wire. The wire would be 1.3mm thick, and would cost effectively cost about one U.S. Dollar per foot of wire.

Once the missile prototype arrived two weeks later the team could put this into effect and begin the designing of the missile's sensor systems itself. The entire missile's systems would run off one M3667 Arbit Computer Chip, designed to run the beyond-visual-range, air-to-air missile . The missile itself was designed to be guided by it's own short range gyro radar array, with tracking capabilities of about two kilometers. Indeed, it was designed for last minute manuevers and such, while the principle tracking system would remain ground tracking systems. It also was designed with a four kilometer range LIDAR array, using an infra-red light range in order to 'see' past clouds and atmospheric anomolies such as dust.

The most important systems added to the P.746.X series was the anti-collision sensor systems to avoid inflight collisions between missiles; similar systems had already been tested and introduced by the United States Navy. The missile also had to have the ability to 'interact' with other missiles, so that they could be tracked by high powered ground arrays individually, as opposed to seeing a huge glob of friendly targets moving away. However, that would be more of a job for the ground teams, than the teams designing the missile.

Schuster took a look at the missile and turned his head to his partner saying,"This looks like it's going to be a succees." He took another look at the missile and whisteled. The manufacturing teams had done well to create a lightweight missile, and with the theoritical range of the P.746.A, the missile would be one for the ages.

His partner turned and responded,"Let's hope so. With the guided range of this thing, and the inertial guidance we're going to have to give it, this thing is going to be expensive. I haven't taken a look at the price range set by GLI, but just for the sensor equipment it should cost over sixty thousand per missile."

Schuster nodded and filled in what the other man had missed,"Yep, we're looking at a price range of three hundred thousand per missile. That's expensive as hell, especially in the numbers of the Empire uses. Thank God for anti-air artillery; another one of our successful projects."

The missile was going to be expensive, indeed, had it not been for the new production technologies and such one could expect this missile to cost as much as half a million. However, with the most recent technologies instated it would decreased to three hundred thousand, while future technologies hoped to bring down the cost back to two hundred thousand. Of course, these costs were purely for export. The Empire would get them much cheaper. Indeed, the would have to be if the Empire wanted to survive economically and wage a war. Regardless, there were ways to do everything; it just required money.

[b]P.746.A Praetorian Surface to Air Missile Report to the Administration
Theoritically this should be sufficient to replace the Praetorian V with an effective successor, although no actual testing has been done in terms of real life testing. Nonetheless, testing in Mandalay have reported that the aerodynamics and build of the missile are perfect, as is the engine. However, again, we still have much testing to do, including testing with the new sensor equipment. For this, we have recently ordered the extraction of an old vintage MMA-A2 air superiority fighter from the military, and testing should begin within the week. Preliminary reports are scheduled for release in two weeks, and the missile will most likely be completed within three weeks. The P.746.C and P.746.D. should be completed within the next two months, while the P.746.E will take around four to five months.

Nonetheless, with what we have now we have confidence that all five variants will be a success. Indeed, the P.746.B has already been deemed a success with its use in Ruska. However, now it will be lighter, which will only heighten its success rate.

For other important matters, the P.746.A and P.746.B price tag for development has been set at eighteen billion United States Legal Tender. We are requesting twenty billion for the the P.746.C and P.746.D and fifteen billion for the P.746.E. Hopefully, we can get the amount requested.

[signed]Dr. Schuster

Official Public Release

P.746.X Praetorian Surface to Air Missile and Variants
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P.746.A et P.746.B Surface to Air Missile
The P.746.A is a replacement to the Praetorian V which has seen a long life within the Empire's ground forces and naval forces. However, the armed forces dediced to pay for the release of a newer, cheaper, and more effecient surface to air missile, just known as the Praetorian. The administration also required five seperate variants, the P.746.A through the P.746.E. The project was finally granted to Golden Luftwaffe Industries (GLI) for a total of sixty billion USD, and throughout a period of two years, Dr. Ricardo Schumer and Dr. Karl Vectar, with their teams, have worked on the design, finally releasing it after a series of testing and such. The missile's certain differences from the obsolete Praetorian V include a more effecient two-state engine for the P.746.A, while the P.746.B uses a single stage engine for low altitude duties. Both missiles are also transonic.

Designation: P.746. A et P.746.B
Length: 6.3 Meters
Base Diameter: .8 Meters
Warhead: 70kg HE; enCAPsulated MetalStorm [CAPMES]
Propulsion [V. A]: Two-stage; solid rocket and ramjet
Propulsion [V. B]: Singe-stage; solid rocket
Maximum Range [V. A]: 550 kilometers
Maximum Range [V. B]: 130 kilometers
Maximum Altitude [V. A]: 27,000 meters
Maximum Altitude [V. B]:[color] 11,000 meters
[color=red]Maximum Velocity: Mach 3.7
Body:
Core of Phenolic Resin-Impregnated Aramid Paper Honeycomb Core Material
Inner Layer of Thymonel 8
Fins: 4 Delta Shaped Fins
Sensors and Electronics:
M3667 Arbit Computer Chip
Multi-band millimetric RADAR
Gyro RADAR Array
IR LIDAR Array
Inertial
Anti-Collision Sensor System

P.746.C et P.746.D Surface to Air Missile
The P.746.C variant is an anti-sattelite missile (ASAT), while the P.746.D is the newer ASAT design, the SLASAT, which is a submarine launched anti-sattelite missile. The principle difference between the P.746.C and the P.746.A is that the P.746.C has a body which cuts off in the middle, more or less, then constricts to allow for the different two-stage engine. This two-stage engine is comprised of a solid rocket fuel engine and a second-stage of a Versola motor. The P.746.C and P.746.D are officially supplements to the GPALS project, which has been the mainstay of the Empire's ABM system.

The P.746.D is exactly the same as the P.746.C, but on the outside looks much larger since it is encased within a sabot type design. The idea is that it needed to fit the Cartagena's and Cadiz' VLS tubes, consequently, the missile had to be made larger. To avoid the costs of completely redesigning the missile's body, the P.746.D used the encasement, which after launching and breakthing through the water, would tear apart, revealing the P.746.C. Recent testing has proved the missile to be dearly effective.

Designation: P.746. C et P.746.D
Length: 5.4 Meters
Base Diameter: .5 Meters
Warhead: 70kg HE hit-to-kill; enCAPsulated MetalStorm [CAPMES]
Propulsion [V. C]: Two-stage; solid rocket fuel engine and Versola motor
Propulsion [V. D]: Triple-stage; solid rocket fuel, the encasement breaks, solid rocket fuel, Versosal motor
Maximum Altitude : 730 Kilometers
Maximum Velocity: 24,000 Km/h
Body:
Core of Phenolic Resin-Impregnated Aramid Paper Honeycomb Core Material
Inner Layer of Thymonel 8
Fins: 4 Delta Shaped Fins
Sensors and Electronics:
M3667 Arbit Computer Chip
Multi-band millimetric RADAR
Gyro RADAR Array
IR LIDAR Array
Teal-blue array
Inertial


P.746.E HIBOLAAS
The P.746.E is a HIgh-G BOost Low Altitude Anti-Sattelite Missile (HIBOLAAS), designed to look much like the HIBEX missile. The P.746.E is designed to intercept inter-continental ballistic missiles at low altitudes, or in other words, as a last ditch attempt to stop an ICBM. With the successful testings of the HIBEX, it was decided to design one for the Empire itself, leading to this, and recent testing have underscored the chances for success. Nonetheless, again, the HIBOLAAS is always to be considered a final ditch defensive attempt, and is part of the multi-prong ABM system used by the Empire.

Designation: P.746. D
Length: 5.2 Meters
Base Diameter: .8 Meters
Warhead: 70kg HE; enCAPsulated MetalStorm [CAPMES]
Propulsion: Single-stage high thrust solid rocket fuel engine
Maximum Altitude : 7000 Meters
Maximum Velocity: 3 Km/s
Maximum Turn: 400G
Body:
Core of Phenolic Resin-Impregnated Aramid Paper Honeycomb Core Material
Inner Layer of Thymonel 8
Sensors and Electronics:
M3667 Arbit Computer Chip
Multi-band millimetric RADAR
Gyro RADAR Array
IR LIDAR Array
Inertial


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Production Rights for All Variants: 20 Million USD

Military International

Field Tests Underscore Praetorian's Abilities

ARRAS, Talavera - Yesterday in a field testing at noon a single P.746.A was tested against a quick moving F-14 Tomcat over the fields of Talavera. The F-14 was reported to be moving at a velocity of 700 knots, and the P.746.A was fired from a range of two hundred kilometers. It's reported that the missile took twelve seconds to cover the distance and was able to destroy the F-14 Tomcat in a single hit. Scientists are now scurrying to the area of the impact, looking for pieces of the Tomcat hoping to analyze how exactly the missile did its job. Official reports will be offered to the general public within a month according to the most optimistic scientists.

Regardless, this test is just one of many tests, on the fields or in real time war, that underscore the ability of the P.746.X series of surface to air missiles, whether they're actual conventional surface to air missiles, anti-sattelite missiles, or high boost missiles. With this as evidence, Kriegzimmer hopes that the Praetorian will be highly exported abroad, hooping to boost sales after earning a clean one trillion from Zinziik, who's ground military was redesigned by the company. Indeed, as company owner, Dietrich Harbinger, claims,
"We hope that the Praetorian will get good reviews from abroad, as it was one of the projects in which we spent the most time developing. I have high hopes for the P.746.X, and know that my scientists did a damn good job. Now we only hope that the international community thinks the same. If not, oh well, the Empire is going to be the only user, and as a consequence, the only nation with the edge that comes from having this missiles.[indent]"

Whether or not this missile gives the edge in battle is irrevelent, but it [i]is a very high technology missile. Other foreign companies have yet to respond to the release of the P.746.X variants, but surely, if you ask it, they will come.

A scientist from the nation of Windsong within the Jewittist Republic was looking into forgein affairs. He slowly looked over the files from various nations and thier research. Grays Hill, Praetonia, Dommingsland, Macabees, Soviet Bloc, the list went on and on. He switched over his computer's files from the navy to the army, and then switched the screen around with various hyperlinks.

He continued to scroll down with a wheel on his wireless mouse, emitting a red light in the darkness, next to the always-blinking light on the tower and the moniter's own.

His dark face of a hispanic tone seemed gothic-white with the light from the white-backgrounded screen. His eye caught a new project of the Macabee Research Division, one that included tanks. His mind started to race as he found its status as PENDING.

He continued to search through the files of the released documents. Not so much. He thought for a moment and clicked on a link labeled "Statistics and Deminsions." A pop-up came up with a flute-like alert. He jumped at this noise, he had not heard anything besides the wind whirling outside and the rattling of his keyboard and mouse's clicking.

He saw in large bold letters PASSWORD PROTECTED. He sat there, motionless and then sat back in his chair. Its leather rolled around his thin thighs and shoulders. He clicked on the Cancel button and pressed an unmarked gray key above the F-keys. A window popped up that looked like an e-mail client.

He rattled a few keys and ended it with "Gracius, mi Canciller" and clicked ENTER on his keyboard. No confirmation popped up saying the sucessful transfer.

He sat there, scrolling through random pictures on other ground projects, and even compairing some aircraft and naval ships. A loud voice came out of his dark-gray speakers. "Yo' got mail, fool!" It was the voice of the notorius wrestler, Mr. F. A messege came up.


Thank you for your contributation, Mr. Marsonez. Your opinion and suggestions have been noted and we thank you for your interaction in the Jewittist Democracy that has blessed itself on you and myself.

Gracius Brother, for your voice is helping me form this country to your wishes, not that of a majority.

Ustedes Canciller; Fonzi Jewitt de el Jewittist para la Familla el Partido


He rolled his eyes and picked up his phone. He dialed a few numbers and admediately a voice came up he knew. It was that of a teenager, young but deep, and spoke in Italian. "Conners." He sighed at not getting the Douvier. "I need Tanner, please." He said in Italian. He hated Italian, it was spitwash in Windsong, but James was from Portshire, Italian, and he had to respect that.

"Who's this?" Snapped the boy on the other line. "Second Sioudg jeh Armal, requesting the Douvier's Water-Book." A bit of ruffling was heard and a few voices, one that of Sectur James and that of a mexican-like acsent, both in English. "Yeah?" Boomed in the mexican-like voice. "Senor Douvier," he began in spanish, "I need your Water-Book to contact Macabee engineers for a possible propossal to revive a tank project they have pending in return to also get it as one of our own, since I have been assigned to find possible projects that could aid us in the armor division of both the Armal-" the Douvier shot in "Yeah yeah, what ever, the Macabee Research Agency is..." He gave the number. Marsonez typed down the numbers, it was an International one, 600 number, it would not be taken off his pay after all.

"Gracius Senor-" He began and then a click was heard. The Douvier hanged up. Marsonez pressed in the numbers in the phone when he relized the number had eleven digits, not ten. 000-000-0000 is ten, but 000-000-00000 is eleven...that is not a number. He thought for a moment. An address. He scrolled through the records of Macabee government buildings and found an address that matched perfectly, right in the Golden Throne's own capital.

He typed in a document he was going to print off later that night.


To: Golden Throne Research Agency, Armored Department
From: Jewittist Republic Research Faction, Armoured Division

Your pending armored vehicle, a main battle tank of revolutionary technologies, has been posted on our FIA Factbook. Our Armal (Army), if you do not already know, is lacking in strength, having little land mass of our own.

I have been dispatched to do anything possible to gain full rights of a Main Battle Tank that compairs to many around the world. Although I have a set few requirements, I am sure your intelligant engineers could pull it off, expecially with large amounts of money in the Republic's Treasury that could easily end up funding the project and some others.

I am also willing to sign over various technologies that could be used in this project that the Jewittist Republic has developed in the short history of its own Armal.

Please come back to me as soon as possible on your decision, I hope this can help our both states in the future of the world and our own destinies.
Signed,
Second Sioudg jeh Armal Marsonez

Jewittist Republic Research Faction, Armoured Division,

Indeed, we do have a pending main battle tank project on the skillet, however, we had initially put it off until the midterm of the War of Golden Succession, now ranging, to further test the capabilities of Havenite armor. Nonetheless, with the prospects of a joint design we are willing to bring the time table foward and exchange our next project, which was going to be the re-evaluation of our current air to air missile after initial failures to bring down Havenite EB-9s. Indeed, it would be much more profitable to undertake a joint design with the Jewittist Republic than to follow our own agenda with an air to air missile that we don't really need to replace until later.

Consequently, if you are willing, as we are, to undertake said project it can begin when you want it to. Should you have information that would be benificial to the project, for the sake of God, please send it over! Any information would be extremely helpful, and if you wish to send scientist over to Mandalay you may do that as well, or we can continue with the talks through databursts or telegrams, however you wish.

Nevertheless, note that we are extremely interested in the progression of a joint main battle tank project, for now dubbed as Project Pzkfw.XIV.X. The ultimate product would be known as the Pzkw.XIV.A variant, and you may call it what you want. However, understandably, we have to actually get through the project for there to be a variant. Sarcasm aside, consider the main battle tank design to be brought foward, and the only thing keeping it from being completed is time. Ergo, we begin when you say.

Thank you for your continued interest, and we hope that our cooperation will prove to build one of the best main battle tanks in current existance!

[signed]Xavier Drester

Xavier Drester
This is great to hear. I am willing to send over a whole team of scientists that with them will bring fuel and engine technologies we have researched in the past, along with satellite and platoonal link-up system and computer data.

At this exact moment, the Chancellor and Douvier do no know how much they will want to put forward, since if it does start from scratch it could go very high. Maybe I can suggest taking some very useful componates from other M.B.T.s in your arsenal to lower research costs?

Some various technologies you may be interested in includes Quasiturbine Engines, Gel-based fuels, and accelerant liquid fuels. The link-up computers you may already have under your belt, but the scientists can come with them too.

The team will include forty-three men and women, all the highest and most reguarded researchers in the field in our hollowed borders.

Signed,
Generalissimo Antonio Marique

Jewittist Republic Research Faction, Armoured Division,

We would be very willing to host your research team within Mandalay, and hope that this armored project can progress. As for total costs we would suspect the project to end up being around thirty billion United States Legal Tender, which will be of course split between the two countries since this is a joint project. On the idea of taking past technologies and implementing them we would like to stay as far as possible from that since there are many technologies on today's main battle tanks that we consider worthless, such as several electronic systems that should be more for luxury than for necessity, and in reality only necessity is important on a tank, or else it is weighed down and ultimately hurt.

Yes, the Quasiturbine Engine was also looked into by us, however, we found one minor problem, which was the fact that the engine expanded and contracted which would ultimately make things very hard in terms of space and durability. Nonetheless, we have several experts in the field of superalloys and such, and consequently, perhaps we could cook up some new type of construction for the egine itself, solving these surface problems - who knows? As for fuel, we wish to keep it basic and lease expensive which would be biodesiel.

Furthermore, we have a series of goals for this new main battle tank which should be taken in mind:


Expansion of the cabin for greater crew conform which is ultimately good for the tank. However, it can only expand by a few cubic centimeters as every twenty cubic centimeters the weight of the tank can increase by over a ton. Nonetheless, even the smallest change is felt.
Greater punching power to go through the latest armor technology. However, the general mass of the weight would have to be increased, although we think that although this would cut velocity it would be well worth it.
Greater armored readings, although we doubt we could get it past two thousand RHA vs. KE. Nonetheless, we should continue to look into this and perhaps this would be the principle effort in this project.


Those are the three basic goals, although there are many more. Nonetheless, we should leave the discussion for our scientists. Thank you again for your cooperation in this project. We guarantee that this main battle tank will be next generation and the envy of the world.

[signed]Xavier Drester

Yes well I belive that biodiesel needs to come to the Jewittist Republic, as regular is being too expencive to keep. As on the subject of cabin space, I belive that added onto it is very much needed, but I belive that the cannon should not be focused torwards destroying an other tank or its armor, but knocking it off of its tread.

My research has shown that once the treads have been knocked off, a crew is more likely to abandon the tank, with it being immobile and all. This would require a more precision-based round, but would not have to be so big and heavy.

The scientists are en route as I am writing this, and I hope that they do final out the problems with your own scientists.

-Generalissimo Antonio Marique

[OOC: I guess next post you can have your guys arrive and all that good stuff.]

Generalissimo Antonio Marique,

Unfortuntely, we find ourselves already in a disagreement over the main armament. Therefore, I feel that in the end we will have to produce two different variants to this tank, which would be [in our own terminology] the ArmaderCarrech [ArCa] IA and the IB. One of those would be astonishingly heavier than the other to make room for the 140mm ETC gun we have planned to put on the tank, and of course, would have to have a greater mass to take the increased recoil of not just the new propellant, but of the round be used. The other would most likely be a lighter version with whichever maingun you yourself planned to install.

The reason for this is that we find that although it may be true that in cases that you've fought in the crew have retired from the tank after a track is derailed, we find in our own personal experiences that this simply isn't the case. Indeed, now, some tanks have curtains that equal the rolled homogenous value of an entire Abrams tank over just their tracks! Consequently, a tank, in our own personal opinion, is going to require a much larger, much more advance main gun.

Nonetheless, armored agreements, engine agreements and crew agreements seem in order. Therefore, this project is not all lost. Welcome to Kriegzimmer and her scientific research team!

[signed]Xavier Drester