NationStates Jolt Archive

[OOC: Over the past few days a combination of things - Hogsweat's deletion, lots of my friends and allies leaving, the general obnoxiousness of the moderation staff - have really destroyed my enjoyment for this site. Im not making an IC post, and Praetonia has not been destroyed or anything like that, it's just frozen. I may or may not return, and I may still continue to post on General and on offsite forums, but for the time being I dont see any real point in continuing to play this game.

Hopefully at some point in the future, reforms will be made or certain individuals will be replaced, but I dont see it happening to be honest. NationStates is a bloody brilliant game which has sadly been marred by a few unpleasant incidents. Thanks to all the people I met here - Sarzonia, Hogsweat, Jordaxia, Guffingford, Bob-Bob, Aust and many other wonderful people. I'll still be logging on to IMs etc, and I'll try to keep in touch, and who knows - maybe one day in the future we will cross swords ICly once again.]

This sucks. All the good players I admire are leaving... :( Let's hope this is not the final yet.

I'll still be here! But now most of my efforts are oriented elsewhere, instead of NationStates. Prae, but invade Britain with Malaysia!

All the veterans are leaving. Perhaps International Incidents is finally dead.

All the veterans are leaving. Perhaps International Incidents is finally dead.

Certainly not dead... But the quality is dropping significantly.

OOC: That could indeed be, let's not hope that when I come on tomorrow this is nothing more than a wasteland full of "I'm leaving" messages.

[ooc:] Bye Praetonia. Hope to see you again when/if you decide to return to RP. I haven't RPed for long enough to meet you, or any of the others who left, but still.

Ahhh...I felt the same way back in early February. Then I took a 150-day deletion break, and came back a few weeks ago. When I came back, I was glad to see familiar faces still here, like Sarzonia, you, Pacitalia, AMF, and others. But now that another familiar face is getting out, it sends shivers down my spine that other people that I thought would be here forever might get the same idea. I'm sorry to hear that Hogsweat's deletion crossed the line with you, but I hope that you'll return like I did. It's not as easy to completely give it up as you think it is.

All the veterans are leaving. Perhaps International Incidents is finally dead.
II will never die, just a new order of RPers is rising. These things come in cycles. The "Golden Age", so to speak, of RPing is finished, but a new age is beginning.

II will never die, just a new order of RPers is rising. These things come in cycles. The "Golden Age", so to speak, of RPing is finished, but a new age is beginning.


No it's not. Guff, AMF and I are still here - the remnants of the Golden Age! :p

No it's not. Guff, AMF and I are still here - the remnants of the Golden Age! :p
then we'll get you and them out..... :D

OOC: See ya, Praetonia. I know we weren't the best of IC friends :) and didn't know each other OOCly well, but it's a shame to see you go.

God Bless.

then we'll get you and them out..... :D

Anything but that! I certainly need some people that I can look from down here and say "Gosh, meaby some day I'll be as good as them", and even knowing that will never happen it's a damn nice to read some well written RP by the guys like Praetonia (my ultimate favourite :rolleyes: ), Sarzonia (who has always helped me with my n00b-questions) and the always-scaring AMF. Now this place gets filled by even worse newbies than I am, which is BAD, and are so few role models left for them...

that's correct, but we have to move on and become the same rolemodels as Prae and others were for us. this will hopefully help the "new" Newbies becoming the next generation, after, say... my deletion. (i'm not wishing for it, but it could happen.... not in the coming 10 years, I think now.)

No it's not. Guff, AMF and I are still here - the remnants of the Golden Age! :p
And me! I've been here linger than Guff, though not as long as AMF, theres still a few old tiemres around.

Thanks for everything Praetonia, hope you'll stay on for the NIBP, we need you to gold us together. And I hope you'll be back soon as well, I'll still be here, keeping II alive even if i'm he only one left.

OOC: Good luck with that, Aust.

And random off topic: You know, Aust, for some reason, when I first entred the world stage, people though I was you. Anyways... [/rant]

Best of luck, Praetonia.

I agree that there are some changes that need to be made, and remember prae, you will always have friends here on NS.


~Ian

And me! I've been here linger than Guff, though not as long as AMF, theres still a few old tiemres around.

Thanks for everything Praetonia, hope you'll stay on for the NIBP, we need you to gold us together. And I hope you'll be back soon as well, I'll still be here, keeping II alive even if i'm he only one left.


Ah yes. Unfortunately Aust, you and I are unsung RPers...we've been here for a long time, we're great at the job, but people don't flock around us, like they do others.

No it's not. Guff, AMF and I are still here - the remnants of the Golden Age! :p
Yes, but for how long?

Certainly a great shame. Much more than a shame perhaps, but it needs no further elaboration. Farewell for now, and hope that you will be back soon, your elegant works of writing and engineering alike once again being able to grace the forums again.

Yes, but for how long?


Hopefully until the end of NS itself.

Certainly a great shame. Much more than a shame perhaps, but it needs no further elaboration. Farewell for now, and hope that you will be back soon, your elegant works of writing and engineering alike once again being able to grace the forums again.


Indeed, loosing these players is something I would have never liked to dealt with, but it's happening..perhaps we should all get together in a weak and make a final mourning RP?

Indeed, loosing these players is something I would have never liked to dealt with, but it's happening..perhaps we should all get together in a weak and make a final mourning RP?

Hmm...I guess we could. Unfortunately, in these past couple of days, I've gotten good at mourning RPs.

Hopefully until the end of NS itself.
Ah, good. Someone will stay with me on 'till the bitter end. I myself will never leave until the number of active nations drops below 1,000, and even then I might stay on so I can pwn all the UN rankings. :D

Even if this nation is deleted, my others will live on...

Ah, good. Someone will stay with me on 'till the bitter end. I myself will never leave until the number of active nations drops below 1,000, and even then I might stay on so I can pwn all the UN rankings. :D

Even if this nation is deleted, my others will live on...

Amen. But, with all the new nations springing up (albeit bad RPers), it's not likely to happen anytime soon. Currently, there are something like 111,000 nations.

Amen. But, with all the new nations springing up (albeit bad RPers), it's not likely to happen anytime soon. Currently, there are something like 111,000 nations.
Not all the new nations are bad RPers. Case in point, uh.... well.... er.... Anyway, yes, it will be a while, but remember that not too long ago there were over 130,000 active nations.

Not all the new nations are bad RPers. Case in point, uh.... well.... er.... Anyway, yes, it will be a while, but remember that not too long ago there were over 130,000 active nations.

I know that all of them aren't. I just met one a few days ago that was very good for a reletively inexperienced RPer. I'm not trying to stereotype anyone. And I think I was deleted when there were 130,000, so this comes as a surprise.

I know that all of them aren't. I just met one a few days ago that was very good for a reletively inexperienced RPer. I'm not trying to stereotype anyone. And I think I was deleted when there were 130,000, so this comes as a surprise.
Lots of people are leaving. It seems the "golden age" was this summer (125,000 to 135,000 active nations any given day). In the past 2-3 months, we've had Sinuhue, Hyperslackovicznia, Eutrusca, Hogsweat, Praetonia, Sanctaphrax, Skinny87, Dragons Bay (IIRC), FairyTInkArisen, and Goobergunchia leaving and SalusaSecondus and Max Barry going more or less inactive, while very few notable new players have come up.

OOC: If you go, I'm going. That just kills whatever enjoyment I had for playing this game.

Praetonia, I've had only limited IC contact with you, mainly through IPS, but I did enjoy RPing with you, even if it was just me buying stuff. You had some of the finest naval designs on NS, hands down, and you were one of the best naval RPers I've ever seen. NS will suffer from your absence. Best wishes to you as well, and here's hoping (perhaps a bit misguidedly) that you change your mind and come back some day. Godspeed.

--Dave, the player behind Hal

P.S. And Sarzonia, if you leave...well, I just hope you decide not to. I'd really hate to see both you and Prae gone. Remember you've still got friends on NS, both of you.

OOC: If you go, I'm going. That just kills whatever enjoyment I had for playing this game.


I figured i would post this that you posted in the lineart forum, as it applies to this and hogsweat's deletion.


There are no winners to this debate, but the loser is clear. It's the players' confidence in the moderation staff to do their jobs fairly and justly.

Its gonna be sad here without you, hope to still see you on Lineartinc forum.
God bless

As Sarz says: You've gone, Skinny has gone: Sarzonia might go too, Sanctaphrax is gone: A big bunch of my best allies and people I'd expect to stick by me if anything went awry (and damnit you all did) and some people i'd return the favour too.

*salute* Cya on MSN.

So it appears that the Golden Age is over. Too bad a only joined during the beginning of its decline. Hopefully semi-veterans like myself, Macabees (real vet.), Derscon, Guffingford, and others we all know and love will stay and begin a new one. I sure haven't found a good RP in ages. So long and take care.

I sure haven't found a good RP in ages.
I can help you there. :p I'm participating in a few that promise to be interesting...

OOC: Wow. Damn. We weren't ever really on good terms, either IC or OOC. But I was looking forward to kinda starting fresh, becoming OOC friends, having an IC RP. But I guess not any time now.

Yeah, Pschyco is right. From the minute I joined over a year ago II was ever so slightly declining and dying. And then at one point it started dying faster and faster. In the last couple weeks its just been hurtling down. And now, it's done it looks like. I really want to stay on II and try to 'make another golden age'. But with everyone leaving, I dont think it will be quite as fun. And some other RPers and I are thinking of making like a second forum, and if so I'd probably not be able to manage II.

It's sad.:(

Jesus, sarzonias gone too, truely the last of us vets are dying off. I may be one of the unsung heros (Macs words not mine) but this is really going to lessen my enjoyment of the game, don't forget about TIN leaving, Eurcustria leaving, Tink leaving...

But then NS started off small didn't it, we came and developed and learned, we whewre all small, poor Rpers, maybe this is the end of the goldern age, maybe the start of a new one-I came at the end of a golden age as well, After the fall of GODAD (Though I was there for it's 2nd incarnation.) I hope I'm right and that we are just entering a intermidate period.

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But then NS started off small didn't it, we came and developed and learned, we whewre all small, poor Rpers, maybe this is the end of the goldern age, maybe the start of a new one-I came at the end of a golden age as well, After the fall of GODAD (Though I was there for it's 2nd incarnation.) I hope I'm right and that we are just entering a intermidate period.

Another golden age will appear. Players such as yourself will become wise veterans, and newer players like myself and Borman Empire will become neither new nor old...veterans from the end of a golden age, and the beginning of another.

I figured i would post this that you posted in the lineart forum, as it applies to this and hogsweat's deletion.I wish you'd asked me before posting that...

Goddamn you your living too. I feel so alone, alone, alone. Oh no I'm hearing my echo. Run!!!!!!!!!!

*Space Union runs away and trys to find happy place.

Its sad to see you Praetonia leave. I remember you were actually the first person I bought naval stuff from, in fact. Ah the good times. ;)

Seeing as so many people are leaving, I've decided to.......not leave. Heh, what would II do with out me? ;)

Sarzonia: Not you too. I swear you and Praetonia are two faces of the same damn quarter. You guys do the exact same thing as the other does. But it will be sad to see you go away too. :( Both of you and everyone else :(

:D I wish you'd asked me before posting that...


my fault, sry :D

Goddamn you your living too. I feel so alone, alone, alone. Oh no I'm hearing my echo. Run!!!!!!!!!!

*Space Union runs away and trys to find happy place.

Its sad to see you Praetonia leave. I remember you were actually the first person I bought naval stuff from, in fact. Ah the good times. ;)

Seeing as so many people are leaving, I've decided to.......not leave. Heh, what would II do with out me? ;)

Sarzonia: Not you too. I swear you and Praetonia are two faces of the same damn quarter. You guys do the exact same thing as the other does. But it will be sad to see you go away too. :( Both of you and everyone else :(

Yes, please. SU speaks the truth. When I first read about all of this "deletion mess" I was dumbfounded. Now, I am still in shock. Please, Sarz, don't go. What would I.I. be without you? The faces of I.I. are leaving...and I'm still in the dust. People I used to idolize, loved, saw as the greats of the worlds, are splitting apart due to a string of arguements. If the world is to fall apart, I'm still gonna be in ashes of all of it. Sanct', Prae', Skinny', and maybe you...hmmm...Without you guys and Hoggy, I dunno where I'd be.

I have no idea whre this was going, nor why I said it, but I needed to get it out.

*fades into the distance*

Sarz leaving... Prae leaving... Hoggsweat deated... Skinny's gone... Sanctaphrax is gone... Who's going to stand up to the forces of evil without you guys? God, this is terrible.:(

Sarz leaving... Prae leaving... Hoggsweat deated... Skinny's gone... Sanctaphrax is gone... Who's going to stand up to the forces of evil without you guys?

At least this settles the Hellfire dilemma.[/dry humor]

Sarz leaving... Prae leaving... Hoggsweat deated... Skinny's gone... Sanctaphrax is gone... Who's going to stand up to the forces of evil without you guys? God, this is terrible.:(


Me! Dun da dun!

Me! Dun da dun!
You? You the former RWC member? The man who has fought alongside the likes of Guffingford? You will save us?

I should have known.

Me! Dun da dun!


I object!
Maybe I'll start getting into the RP stuff again.

Blanket statement here, sorry.
Sarzonia, Praetonia, Hoggsweat, Skinny87, Sanctaphrax, I really enjoyed reading your RP's when I saw them. It will certianly be less interesting here for me without you guys around. I hope you all enjoy whatever is next.

Lets face it the golden age had to come to an end. But not this way. This Golden age isnt just slowly falling. Its beinging shot down like a plane of the Battle of Britian. I came here around Oct or Nov and when i saw these guys I wanted to be just like them. i wanted to be known like them. Though Im not as known i still look up to these guys. Now with my country coming up on its First ever aniversy I cant help but be sad that most of the guys i looked up to a year ago are gone. This is truly an end of an era.

You? You the former RWC member? The man who has fought alongside the likes of Guffingford? You will save us?

I should have known.


When people like guffingford start saving our asses then truly all the good guys of NS have died off.

Lets face it the golden age had to come to an end. But not this way. This Golden age isnt just slowly falling. Its beinging shot down like a plane of the Battle of Britian.

Strange analogy, but taking the concept, those lost planes turned into a glorious victory! Unless, you're talking about the German planes. :(

Strange analogy, but taking the concept, those lost planes turned into a glorious victory! Unless, you're talking about the German planes. :(

Planes drop down quickly, just like the Golden Era ends with speed. Or that's how I got it :rolleyes:

You? You the former RWC member? The man who has fought alongside the likes of Guffingford? You will save us?

I should have known.


Or more how Guff fought alongside mine...har har har... *rampantly takes credit for it all!*

Damn shame, thats what this whole thing is.

Sarz leaving... Prae leaving... Hoggsweat deated... Skinny's gone... Sanctaphrax is gone... Who's going to stand up to the forces of evil without you guys? God, this is terrible.:(

Me as well...

Bye Prae. You're the ultimate martyr. Well I was thinking about cutting my scalp in honor of Hogsweat....

Wish I'd seen the topic on this earlier.

You're one of the best, my friend, and it's a shame that things have to be like this. But, I completely agree with what you said in your post here. I'll miss you, and hopefully, this is just temporary.

Godspeed, buddy. :(

Sarz leaving... Prae leaving... Hoggsweat deated... Skinny's gone... Sanctaphrax is gone... Who's going to stand up to the forces of evil without you guys? God, this is terrible.:(

I'm here. And I'm not backing down.

It occurs to me that the one way to take power away from the moderators is to simply go to forums we control. Use our stats as they exist here, but just RP where moderators can't abuse or misuse their power.

EDIT: I'm with Pacitalia. Some day the mods are going to screw up royally and we will have cause to have the current oligarchs purged.

Sarz leaving... Prae leaving... Hoggsweat deated... Skinny's gone... Sanctaphrax is gone... Who's going to stand up to the forces of evil without you guys? God, this is terrible.:(
*tentatively* Me?

I'll ally myself with anyone who stands against the forces of evil at any rate... I intend to be a prominent force in this new age...



...Or not. *runs*