NationStates Jolt Archive

I'd like for my fellow FT Nations to comment on my ship designs as well as ask questions and post suggestions and what not,I will add vessels gradually to this thread. For now, I'll start off with the most important one, Lord Malice's Flag ship, The Wraith

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Aryek/TheWraith.jpg

Name and Designation: The Wraith [Custom 'Ultra-Dreadnought/Star Destroyer]

Length: 29,000 Meters

Weight: 900,000 Metric Tons

Crew: 300,000 ~ 2,450,000

Armaments:

Several Thousand automated laser turrets: The Wraith is covered in thousands of Laser turrets to defend it from small fighter craft, with most of them concentrated on the bow of the ship, both on top and under it. The turrets can increase in their firing intensity gradually via command from one of the control decks to the point where they

Omega Turbo Lasers: Six massive Turbo Lasers are on The Wraith, three of them on the port side, three on the starboard. Though they are extremely powerful, they have a slow firing rate and thus are used to take out capital class ships and used for "Ortillery".

Energy Cannons: Like the laser turrets, these also coat the surface, these fire out blue streams of pure energy and are useful for doing more damage than the standard laser turret, but they are also slower to fire.

Production History/Information:

The Wraith's origin is a mystery to all except Darth Malice her self. Where she required the ship, or where it was produced, will perhaps never be known.

Wraith's design is influenced but not copied from other capital ships, such as the Executer or the Leviathan and contains many of the same principles and weapons, but overall it is a relatively new and alien design.

The Wraith features several command bridges in the case that one is destroyed, or simply used for the quick guidance of troops through out the massive ship. Lord Malice her self prefers the largest command center, which, of course, is on the bridge of the ship.

The underbelly of Wraith is essentially a city, containing mess halls, barracks and recreation areas for the personnel serving below Malice. Wraith also holds twelve squadrons of Sith Fighters in the massive bays of the ship for an extra layer of defense. The ship also has high-quality energy Shields which surround it, and can take quite a beating before giving out. Even then, they can regenerate within a matter of seconds unless the generator is destroyed.

Even then, an enemy must blast through the various turrets before it can attack the thick hull, which, in it self, is essentially immune to all but the most powerful of projectiles.

((Isn't a 29 km long Ultra-Dreadnought/Star Destroyer crossbreed a bit too expensive for your budget?))

((Isn't a 29 km long Ultra-Dreadnought/Star Destroyer crossbreed a bit too expensive for your budget?))

I have to agree. With your budget, you couldn't support it. You could support an Executor or Sovereign SSD probably (one or two max), but not a ship that size. I didn't start making my uber sized ships until six months after I founded my nation (and my budget was in the trillions by then, economy was Frightening for two months as well) and it is less powerful than this.

Option 1
For a beginner nation, modify it a bit to accommodate your economy and budget.

Option 2
Or, (what I'd rather suggest) keep it in your drydocks until you've

A) Increase in military/defense budget (pass 800 bill)
Note: not your law and order budget
B) Passed six months or more

Option 3
If you must have it, use it for housing your troops and sith lady but not for attacking other nations or for RP's (unless its some sort of "raiding the Death Star" type of RP). Not yet anyways.

Good news is:
Interesting pic.

Stat's would look good if you were a older (experienced) nation.

Don't make the same mistake most new nations make and start out with a large amount of planet killers (like me way back when) or have ships larger than an Eclipse class SSD.

That's my professional advice anyways.

Yes, I was planning on holding out on using this thing until I got my economy up, it's just that I'm not looking forward to weeks, possibly months of solving economy enhancing issues with miminal results. None the less, I shall have to do it. I'll just set my issues setting to two per day, and hope for the best, and the soonest.

Yes, I was planning on holding out on using this thing until I got my economy up, it's just that I'm not looking forward to weeks, possibly months of solving economy enhancing issues with miminal results. None the less, I shall have to do it. I'll just set my issues setting to two per day, and hope for the best, and the soonest.

Do what I did, focus ONLY on Economy and Military budget.

Basics:
Screw civil rights
Screw Politica rights
screw enviormentalists (eventhough I am an enviormentalist in RL)
do what it takes to get a Frightening economy.

Don't worry about this sort of thing. A lot of people seem to do it when first starting out.

Don't worry about this sort of thing. A lot of people seem to do it when first starting out.

Do what?

I am curious to this as well.

Bump.

((OOC: Bump))

Oh, uh...By that, I meant "A lot of people make the accident of creating an 'Uber-Ship' too early."

A ship like that is going to be at least an order of magnitude, if not multiple orders of magnitude, more massive than 900,000 metric tonnes.

To draw an analogy to MT, the displacement on the Iowa was approximately 65,000 tons, and I don't think it was even a kilometer long. So, for FT, it would be a logical assumption to suppose that this corresponds to a heavy destroyer or cruiser, certainly smaller than an Imperial Star Destroyer. You're proposing that a 29-km long ship is only as massive as about 15 of these far, far smaller ships?

Note that I'm certainly no expert on ship design, but your claim to so little mass in such a large vessel is way off the mark. Not to mention what others have said about your economy...

Hell, even I only RP having production capacity for about five Star Destroyers per year, mind you I'm not talking about überSuper Star Destroyers, but a custom 2.4 km-long design, and I have had a Frightening economy for longer than you've been a nation (unless you are posting under a puppet). Why do I RP under such constraints? I used to be MT/PMT and RPed a transition to FT, which I never fully completed because I didn't have enough Internet access to RP over summer and I just never got back into RPing in the fall. But I digress...

It's worth noting that this guy's entire nation consists of a gigantic space fleet at the moment.

Meh. I'll fix the weight, I guess.

It's worth noting that this guy's entire nation consists of a gigantic space fleet at the moment.

Actually, even if his nation is a space fairing people, that makes his claim to having an uber-ship even harder to have others believe. A ship that size needs a heavy production facility and the type of ore refinery and extraction system that only a settled nation could surmount to do. I've been around for a long time and I waited until maybe over 7 months before I even started construction of a single SSD Eclipse. Now I have two, and they're rearely used.

And if I remember right in one of his early post he mentions what his fleet looks like, something about a mass of 2km ships and one ship that 'shadowed them all' which I would gander a guess to be the Wraith.

So no, Axis Nova, its not all that much noting to say hes a nation of space fairing people.

It's important to note that the United Sith were not always a space-fairing people. They once were a settled nation, and that's how they produced all their ships.

It's important to note that the United Sith were not always a space-fairing people. They once were a settled nation, and that's how they produced all their ships.

((That and it's THL's alt...))

That and THL spends 6 Trillion on it's defence budget.

Oh, and just so everyone knows, I am going with Huntaer's option three, as Wraith is a vital part of the stories of several characters I plan on.