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Open Bidding for New Universal Assault Rifle (Modern Tech/PMT)

Kaukolastan
14-10-2005, 05:37
OOC One: Anyone can bid on this weapon contract, if they meet ALL the requirements listed. Here's what's going on...

OOC Two: I started using the XM8 weapon system way back in 2003, when it was still in mid-prototype phase, just spun out of the OICW Program. My regional alliance, the Directorate, adopted it shortly after, agreeing that it's benefits were large, and it would serve as a perfect weapon for the Directorate Defense Forces. As the years have passed, many more people on NS have come to learn on the XM8, and it has become a standard weapon for many nations. This comes with a downside, however. The original XM8, simply called “M8”, used by the Alliance, is not the version used by most of NS.

The prototype I extrapolated my gun from was supposed to be caliber-convertable, and included several different features than currently used. This has led to the unfortunate situation where the Alliance possesses a “domestic” weapon that is unnaturally similar to foreign weapons, leading it to be less-than-original. Also, when a Directorate member says “M8”, they mean different than the rest of the world, but due to shared nomenclature, this could cause confusion. Therefore, it has become imperative for the region to move on to a new, original design for an assault weapon. Although the XM8 is a very cool gun, for the reasons outlined above, it must be replaced.


IC:

After two decades of honorable and worthy service, the time has come to replace the venerable but aging M8 weapon system in the Directorate Defense Forces, and of all Allied Nations thereof. In order to replace the M8, the DDF has commissioned the Universal Assault Rifle (UAR) Project. By 2030, all M8 Weapons Systems will be replaced by UAR Systems, resulting in more than a billion weapons rotated. This project will be opened to any worthy bidder who can submit a weapon system to meet the requirements to follow. The weapons will be fully tested in an open competition, and the best option will be chosen for the contract. This will be the most massive defense contract in history, and will decide the primary weapon of the DDF for decades to come.

The UAR must be multirole, adaptible, flexible, rugged, capable of functioning in the full host of terrains the DDF can expect combat. It should be easy to handle and repairm and it should fill into a combined arms role. The rifle should meet the following requirements:

Cartridge

The cartridge must be non-developemental. That is, it must currently exist and be fully tested before the competition.

The cartridge should be accurate to 600 meters. (Note: This does not mean that all versions of the UAR must be this accurate, only tha the round fired must be capable of this accuracy.)

The round must penetrate CRISAT/PAGST at 400 meters ninety-percent of the time.

The round must be small enough that a soldier carrying the UAR could carry enough ammunition to engage in prolonged combat without resupply. This ammunition cannot exceed a weight of 9kg.

The UAR should demonstrate a 100% combined lethality improvement over current M8 system.

The UAR should be rugged and robust, capable of handling all situations in combat and performing as expected.

The weapon should fire 100,000 rounds continuously without failure.

The weapon should then, after a refit, fire 50,000 more rounds consecutively without failure.

The weapon should function in the variety of environments the DDF operates in.

The weapon should be submerged in sand for 60 days, after which it will fire 10,000 rounds consecutively without failure.

The weapon will be submerged in 30 meters of water for 60 days, after which it will fire 10,000 rounds consecutively without failure.

The weapon will be left in -20 Celsius for 60 days, after which it will fire 10,000 rounds consecutively without failure.

The weapon must be able to survive the rigors of combat.

The weapon will be dropped from a height of 10 meters onto concrete, after which it will fire 10,000 rounds consecutively without failure.

The weapon will be run over by a Light Transport Vehicle, after which it will fire 10,000 rounds consecutively without failure.

The weapon will be deliberately misfed, and loaded with poor quality ammunition, and it will still fire 10,000 rounds.

The Universal Aimpoint (UAP) is the centerpiece of the UAR. This integrated optic will allow each soldier to carry out a wider capacity in combat, and will form the bulk of the increased lethality in combat.

The UAP will function as a tactical scope, placing a red dot on the target. It will have a 1x - 4x variable zoom. It should be capable of this same zoom in an integrated nightvision and thermal imaging mode.

The UAP will possess a laser designator/rangefinder, that will be used to calibrate optics for targets, and also to allow soldiers to designate targets for artillery/airstrikes, should the unit have access to this function. (The function should be “lockable”, so untrained units could not accidentally call a bad fire mission.)

The UAP will autocalibrate for targetting, placing the red dot where the round should land. It should do this at any magnification, and compensate for range. Windage and elevation will only be autocalibrated with the addition of the Telephoto Insert, discussed in the DMR section.

The UAP should also autocalibrate for the grenade launcher, predicting the grenade's arc and landing location and displaying this data for the operator, should he choose to view said data.

The UAP should come compliant to be “plugged in” to automated battlefield systems such as BattleNet, for even faster combined arms responses. This would include mission display, the ability to call up satellite provided maps, and other high-end features for a Third Wave information battlefield.

The UAP should run from an internal and compact battery that provides a three year operational service life. This battery should be easily and quickly replacable in the field.

The UAP, should it lose power, should not interfere with the weapon's function. Traditional iron sights should be standard on every weapon.

The UAP must pass every ruggedness test applied to the entire UAR system.

The UAP must be integrated into cost and training with the UAR system.

The UAP must be secure from exterior access, so as to prevent OpFor interference in DDF combat operations through electronic interference, active or passive.

The UAP should have both upgradable firmware and software, to extend its service life.

The UAR will fill many roles inside of the DDF, being a one-piece system capable of becoming a Light Support Weapon, a Designated Marksman's Rifle, an Assault Rifle with Grenade Launcher, and a Super Compact Carbine.

The Light Support Weapon (LSW)

The capacity of the weapon should be 100 rds, in a drum or box, without encumbering the operator.

The LSW should fire 100rds continuously before barrel overheat becomes possible.

The barrel should be quickly replacable, able to be changed out be a trained operator in under a minute, using only battlefield tools, and without having to break cover.

The LSW should be accurate to 400 meters.

The LSW, when deployed, should be capable of firing controlled automatic fire.

The LSW should be under 6kg, unloaded.

The Designated Marksman's Rifle (DMR)

The DMR should attain, with match ammunition, 1 Minute of Angle Accuracy (One inch deviance for every hundred meters.).

The DMR should be accurate to 600 meters, the cartridge limit mentioned above.

The DMR should accept a telephoto “insert” for the Universal Aimpoint (UAP).

This insert will function as a scope for the DMR.

It will, when inserted, retain the zero of the UAP. Also, it should auto-compensate for windage, elevation, range, just as the UAP does.

It will possess a 4x – 8x variable power magnification.

It will not interfere with the UAP functions (Nightvision, Laser Designator, Integrated Display), and will work with these functions at extended range.

If power is needed, the insert will operate from the internal UAP battery, and will not increase power drain by more than 10%.

The insert should function without power as a traditional scope, with manual means to change windage, elevation, and range.

The insert will not exhibit “lens flare”.

The ammunition feed on the DMR will not interfere with prone or side-prone firing.

The DMR will be under 4kg, unloaded.

The Assault Rifle (AR) with Grenade Launcher (GL)

The AR will be accurate to 400 meters.

The AR will be controllable on fully automatic firing.

The AR will place decimeter-diameter burst patterns at 100 meters.

The AR will hold sufficient ammunition for prolonged combat.

The GL will retain the zero of the UAP. That is, it will not need to be re-sighted every time it is attatched, and it will automatically interface with the UAP, so that the UAP can predict grenade landing.

The GL will be able to take instructions from the UAP, so that grenades can be set to airburst at a range predetermined by the UAP's laser rangefinder.

The GL will be a single shot 40mm system, which can take a variety of loads, including, but not limitted to, Fragmentation, Incindiary, Concussion, Flare, and Tear Gas.

The GL will be accurate to 60 meters with the UAP's trajectory prediction.

The combined AR/GL will weigh under 5kg, unloaded.

The Super Combact Carbine (SCC)

The SCC will be under 600mm in total length.

The SCC will be accurate to 100 meters.

The SCC will be controllable under burst firing, and will be reasonably controllable under fully automatic firing.

The SCC will be streamlined, so as to make it easily tranported inside of garments, and possess minimum “travel to target” time.

The SCC will be under 3kg, unloaded.

The UAR will be modular and adaptible, capable of rapid mission transformation, and easy to maintain.

The UAR must be capable of “on the fly” reconfiguration into any of the modes mentioned above, from any other. It should fully convert in under two minutes, with only battlefield tools available, and without expert assistance.

The UAR should be capable of functioning even when removed from supply lines. Therefore, operators should have the ability to convert the UAR to fire enemy cartridges. This should be done by allowing rapid barrel change (already recommended for LSW and DMR variants, for heavier barrels), and a quick expansion of the action. This would require the operators to have the correct barrels on hand, meaning that they would have to expect this possibility beforehand. Calibers the UAR should be capable of accepting, with proper barrels, would be the common 5.56 NATO, 5.45 Russian, 6.8 SPC, 7.62x33 R, 7.62x51 NATO, and 7.62x54 R. If the barrel and action was available for the chosen caliber, the UAR should be convertible to that caliber within five minutes, using only battlefield tools and without expert assistance.

The UAR should contain universal parts, so that pieces of one UAR, in any model, could be used on any other UAR.

The UAR should have Picatinny mounting rails for various attatchments.

The UAR should be easy to use and maintain.

The UAR should require no more than 120% of the time required to train a soldier on the current M8 weapon system.

The UAP should be streamlined and intuitive, so that it could be functional even with a rushed trained operator.

The UAR should be ambidexterous in all firing modes.

The UAR should be comfortable to fire, and should not give too much recoil and flash, so as not to give new operators unnecessary flinch reactions.

The UAR, do to its modular construction, should be able to be field stripped, cleaned, and reassembled by a trained operator in under five minutes, using only battlefield tools. Likewise, the UAR should not fail due to lack of precise mainenance.

The UAR, with the UAP, should cost no more than 120% of the M8 system per unit. (The M8, with all modes, came to approximately $900 per unit.)

The UAR should cost less over it's expected twenty year service lifetime than maintaining the current M8 would cost.

The UAR must be domestically produced. If a foreign company of government wins the contract, they must do all production inside of the Directorate. The winner will be paid in full, but rights of the winning entry will become property of the DDF, do to security concerns. All future variants and modifications are also sole property of the Directorate.
Phoenixius
14-10-2005, 06:05
Requirements?
Kaukolastan
14-10-2005, 07:18
Requirements?
Coming... lots of them. Expect by morning, since trash needs to be done, and reports to write.
Rotovia-
14-10-2005, 07:27
OOC: Kauky, I was half stiff expecting to see that weapon... but now I have too wait 'til morning...:(
Kaukolastan
14-10-2005, 18:27
Contract requirements are now filled out, and yes, they are QUITE comprehensive. :D
Kaukolastan
14-10-2005, 19:41
No one wants to take a stab at the contact?
Kaukolastan
15-10-2005, 01:56
Is anyone up to the challenge?
Itinerate Tree Dweller
15-10-2005, 02:10
Our militiary forces are most anxious to see the product of this contract and we will hopefully adopt it, as we are a semi-member of the Directorate.
Soviet Bloc
15-10-2005, 02:52
OOC- I'll give it a try. Since I doubt the SR-90A1 would work [it would except for the fact that its a dual-fire weapon and therefore uses twin rounds simultaneously (using a primary rifle round and a secondary submachine gun round mounted below)], I'll finish the write-up for the SR-91A1. The SR-91A1 is a more rugged weapon than the SR-90A1 and should be able to fulfill your requirements...
MassPwnage
15-10-2005, 04:03
ooc: Jesus fucking Christ, those requirements are stiffer than a teenage pornstar's nipples upon seeing a black guy's 13 inch erect cock. Those requirements are stiffer than John Ashcroft's upper lip, those requirements are stiffer than a mafia corpse. Those requirements are just plain stiff.

However, I'll give it a shot.

IC:

We at MP Ordnance Corporation have analyzed your nation's requirements for an Infantry Rifle System. Then we began to get to work. The results should please you greatly.

JKK (Jungle Combat Carbine)

Caliber: 6.5x55mm (Usually. See below for more details)

Overall length: 1.1m with stock fully extended. 900mm with stock collapsed.

Barrel length: 510mm

Width: 8 cm

Height: 267 mm

Weight 3.4 kg empty, 4.2 kg loaded

Fire Selection: Semi-Automatic, 2 rnd Burst, Full Auto

Rate of fire: 800 rpm fully automatic, 2200 rpm 2rd burst

Magazine capacity: 60 round triple stacked.

Add-ons: Top M1913 Picatinny Rail, Bottom M1913 Picatinny Rail, barrel mounted RIS, threaded barrel, flip-up iron sights, adjustable bedding screws.

Structural Components: High impact polycarbonate reinforced stock, polycarbonate bedding pillars, nickel-aluminum superalloy extractor and recoil mechanism, moly-steel action and reciever.

Safeties: Trigger Safety, Grip Safety, Drop Safety, Bolt Safety, Hammer Safety, Firing Pin Safety.

Ejection: Ambidextrous, lever select.

Design Notes:

Reliability: This is where the JKK really shines. Tested in the horrifically wet jungles of MassPwnage, in the mud of the western swamps, in arctic and mountain snows, in desert heat and sand, the JKK has proven time and time again that it can fire no matter what Mother Nature throws at it. The rock solid BR-1 MARS moly-steel action is coupled is with twin massively oversized gas pistons (AK-108 style), a forward assist mechanism, a fire pin threaded into the bolt (for securing it more easily), a cold forged trigger, a heavy, double chrome lined barrel, a forearm gas ejection system and many other reliability systems. The weapon can fire in rain, mud, sand and even up to 40 meters underwater, thus proving the strength of the action. Also, old surplus ammunition from World War II was fired extensively throiugh the JKK

Modularity: We were aware that the requirements in the contract stated that the gun must mount the UAP aimpoint system. However we realized that the gun might not have the UAP system available all the time. So we attached M-1913 Picatinny rails on the top, bottom, and barrel, for mounting various types of accessories, such as scopes, bipods The gun is calibrated to use the UAP however. The rifle can also quickly change calibers given that the proper barrel, action and ammunition are available. The dimensions of the weapon's stock, handguards, reciever etc. can be adjusted to fit new barrels and actions (which screw into the stock and lower reciever via a universal screw system.) by adjusting the spacing between the polycarbonate bedding screws holding the weapon together.

Sighting: The UAP, Universal Aimpoint, is the standard aiming device for the UAR. The UAP is a green LED lit sight with a digitally adjustable crosshair in the center. It can zoom 1-4x. The UAP has integrated passive thermal sensors for night combat and a cadmium doped UV laser rangefinder good up to 1.2 kilometers. It is designed to simply slip onto any given JKK of any kind. Also, the UAP will hold its zero even if transferred from rifle to rifle, removed and beaten upon or put into storage for a while. The UAP is powered by 2 nickel hydride rechargeable batteries and can run on "power save" mode, in which it runs in a lower powered state until it is actually needed for use. The UAP is covered with 2 clear, light transmitting LEXAN covers for the lenses in order to preserve durability beyond what is required of the UAR requirements. The UAP system can be calibrated to use all types of munitions found in the Kaulkostani military, and will automatically adjust its zero/BDC/windage depending on what the user specifies is being fired, thanks to a small hard drive with integrated ballistic tables inside the scope itself. Laser designation can be provided via an additional passcode locked module on the laser housing itself.

DMR: The designated marksman's rifle is a JKK with an adjustable cheekpiece stock, heavier and longer benchrest barrel, bipod, epoxy bedded action and a UAP with 1-10x zoom. The DMR weighs 5.5kg however, but it can consistently hit .5 MOA groups, due to its heavier barrel and the new UAP, which has a faster microprocessor for very quick shot adjustments. If the user insists on the weight being 4 or less kilograms, the benchrest barrel, and extra bedding can be removed, reducing the accuracy of the rifle to approximately 1 MOA and the weight to 3.9 kilograms. The new UAP has 2 modes, electronic and manual. The user can choose which mode to use. Electronic mode self adjusts the scope and manual mode allows the user to adjust his/her own scope. A carbon fiber DMR barrel can also be installed, which allows the rifle to attain a 4kg weight and not sacrifice any accuracy, however carbon fiber barrels are very expensive ($2000+ R/L) and not recommended for the frugal customer.

LMG: The JKK LMG is basically a JKK with a heavier barrel, bipod and the sides of the handguard on either side of the barrel cut out. The barrel can swing out in a fraction of a second to either side after a switch on the LMG is pressed. A barrel change thus only takes under a few seconds on the battlefield. The LMG weighs 5.8 kilograms and can accept both 100 round Beta-C mags and regular 60 round JKK magazines. The barrel is a heavy HK barrel that can fire over 1200 rounds sustained before getting too hot to handle.

Grenade Launcher: The grenade launcher is a single shot 40x73mm MP Ordnance grenade launcher accurate up to 700m. The grenade launcher can be wired into the UAP via a combat USB jack so that the UAP can program grenades to airburst at certain ranges. The 40x73mm system can also take 40x46mm grenades and 40x53mm grenades.

JKK/SCC: The SCC is 500mm long with the para stock folded up. It has the same dual piston system that the JKK has, so the recoil is highly controllable, even on full auto. The rifle can easily fit into a trenchcoat for conceability. It is narrower than the full sized JKK so it only holds 40 rounds in its magazine though. Each unit also comes with a free supressor that can reduce the amount noise that the gun makes.

Saftey: In order avoid accidental discharge, the bolt and firing pin can be deliberately misaligned with the chamber so that the primer can never be struck, making it so that even a drop from a great height will not make the weapon go off. Also there, is a bolt locking safety, a trigger saftey, a manual safety and grip safety on the gun.

Intuitive: Yes it's intuitive. Just take the safeties off, release the cocking handle and then fire. The gun will automatically chamber the first round if the user didn't do it by pulling back on the bolt. Also, the 6.5x55 round is as easy to fire as the 6.8mm SPC, so there are no uncessary flinch reaction associated with full sized battle rifle rounds.

Maintanence: All the gun needs is regular cleaning. The parts should last for at least a lifetime of 250,000 rounds before wearing out.

Cost Per Unit: $1050
Cost For Rights: $500 million

ooc: Any more questions, just ask me on the thread.
Halberdgardia
15-10-2005, 04:19
[OOC: As a member of the Directorate, I've got my eye on this thread. I look forward to seeing the final choice for our new kickass standard weapon, K-stan.]
Zodno-Pomorskie
15-10-2005, 04:46
OOC:

Okay, first. Impossible. 10 metres on concrete, and to expect no mechanism failure? That is not gonna happen. That has all of the details of the perfect weapon, yet it would require so many small parts and differing resources that the chance of mass-production would be slim, and on the market, no country would ever think of buying it, as prices would skyrocket.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
15-10-2005, 04:57
OOC:

Okay, first. Impossible. 10 metres on concrete, and to expect no mechanism failure? That is not gonna happen. That has all of the details of the perfect weapon, yet it would require so many small parts and differing resources that the chance of mass-production would be slim, and on the market, no country would ever think of buying it, as prices would skyrocket.

ooc:
It is not meant for a market, it is for a specific group of nations.
Kaukolastan
15-10-2005, 08:31
OOC:

Okay, first. Impossible. 10 metres on concrete, and to expect no mechanism failure? That is not gonna happen. That has all of the details of the perfect weapon, yet it would require so many small parts and differing resources that the chance of mass-production would be slim, and on the market, no country would ever think of buying it, as prices would skyrocket.

1.) PMT. My nation regularly produces smart plastics that form and rebuild, carbon threaded supersteel, liquid metal (no, not like T2, it's a state of metal where there's a stupidly high return of energy), and other such wankery. I think that nations with equivelant tech could develope weapons that would be capable of surviving such a fall.

2.) Again, with the fifty years or so of advances, the costs would be cut dramatically.

3.) Intricacy is not necessary. Quality materials would allow much of this to happen.

4.) These are goals to meet, to encourage weapons developement. If I said, "I want an AK-74!" I'd get just that, and there'd be no desire to push onto an AK-06.

5.) Compared to the ETC superguns, this is nothing. The advantage of this weapon is its versatility and flexability, meaning a more beneficial weapon in the long run over the super guns. The only "radical" part of this weapon is the UAP, and even that not so much. This is the culmination and combination of many disparate weapons abilities, which is no mean feat, but it's not world ending.

Moving on...

I want to thank MassPwnage and Potty 5 for their contributions of very quality firearms (I did set a ludicrously perfectionist bar.). We are open to more entries, and once we get a few more, the region will meet behind closed doors (REGION BOARD!) to discuss the weapons.

Let the competition continue!
Kaukolastan
15-10-2005, 08:41
Just so everyone knows, I've received another quality entry by telegram from Soviet Bloc, who wishes his design to remain confidential, a wish I will respect by not posting his stats here. I will soon (tomorrow or day after) give his link to the region members, so that it can be considered for competition.

We now have three entries:

Soviet Bloc
Potty 5
MassPwnage

I'm hoping to get a few more, and then the region will make a choice. I would prefer to get posts here over TGs, just an FYI.

Oh, and two of the designs have now used 6.5mm rounds, which, ironically, was the cartridge I built my concept UAR around. Heh. Anywho, don't let this wash you into 6.5 only. If you have a better round, TELL ME! The more diversity, the better.
MassPwnage
15-10-2005, 18:31
ooc: Note that the weapon I gave you is MT, not PMT. And again, feel free to ask me any questions you might have on my weapon. My AIM is SoyaBorealis and my MSN is yixinli88@hotmail.com
Kaukolastan
17-10-2005, 04:58
Up for more bidders!