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TriCorp Military Grade Imports
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Pillbox Mk. 1, Heavy Armored Personnel Carrier

In response to the complete lack of Amored Personnel Carriers capable of surviving sustained, heavy attacks, the TriCrop Organization decided to design and implement a Heavy Personnel Carrier. One which could be considered among the best protected APCs in the world.

Lenght: 6.30m
Height: 3.60m
Width: 2.0m
Weight: 48.3 tonnes
Engine: Arkanaland Motor Industries Diesel-Electric, providing 900hp at 4,600rpm
Maximum Speed: 45 MPH over road
Range: 325 miles
Primary Armement: One 50. Calibre MG, 2,000 rounds. Two 7.62mm MGs, 4,000 rounds. Six GunPorts lining sides of Passenger Compartment, two on rear door.
Crew: 3 Crew, 8 fully-armed soldiers
Optics: Infrared/Nightvision, Thermoelectric sights. 6 Telescopes providing 360 degree view.
NBC Protection:Fully sealed against Nuclear, Biological and Chemical attacks. Capable of sustaining all crew and passengers for 48 hours, fully operational.
Armour: Various Composites. Titanium-Alluminum alloy with Titanium Diobide Ceramic sandwiched between four layers. One inch space between the last two layers. Kevlar Anti-Spall liner inside all personnel compartments for added protection.

Armour Scheme:
First Layer: 3/4ths inch Titanium Diobide Ceramics, followed by four layers of 1-1/2 inch Titanium-Alluminum alloy, with 1/2 inch Titanium Diobide Ceramics sandwiched between each. Between the second and fourth layer of Titanium-Alluminum, 2-inch gap to prevent further breach of HE-rounds.

Reactive Armor appliques also available.


Price: $3,500,000
[picture] (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/Wubboux/PillboxMk1.jpg)

OOC: Another Critique Thread. So any and all comments/suggestions/rambling is welcomed. A big thanks to all the folks that answered my thread about Armor Config., they helped a lot in their own special way. Alluminum-Titanium Composite idea ceam from Yallak.

OOC: (sp) Composites, sandwiched, armoured and implement.

Nice vehicle, by the way.

OOC: (sp) Composites, sandwiched, armoured and implement.

Nice vehicle, by the way.

Thanks for pointing that out, I type horribly when I'm nervous. As for the "Armor," I'm American...that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. But corrected anyway - I like European English. Thanks for the compliment, by the way, I'm actually surprised I haven't been torn apart. Seems to me that most new designers like myself are gutted for not having a novel about the various workings. I'm not experianced with it enough to do that, yet.

Thanks for pointing that out, I type horribly when I'm nervous. As for the "Armor," I'm American...that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. But corrected anyway - I like European English. Thanks for the compliment, by the way, I'm actually surprised I haven't been torn apart. Seems to me that most new designers like myself are gutted for not having a novel about the various workings. I'm not experianced with it enough to do that, yet.

I'll get you yet, American spelling!

You might want to take a bit from the weight. Very few vehicles are exactly on the ton mark - just add or subtract a couple of decimal places to make me feel better. :D

EDIT: You also forgot to put in 'MPH' on the speed.

EDIT2: You may have your strange Z's in odd places, but I'm quite sure that there's two R's in Armored.

OOC: Aye, since you're good at pointing out things, mind checking out my other design? I bumped it.

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From: Chaz Stacheeseki, Duke of Vin’ng

Your vehicle shows great promise.

I estimate that would give 400mm RHAe vs. KE and maybe double or more verses KE. Is the armor directional like on most vehicles or is it all round?

Also could a more powerful engine be put in?
Where is the .50 cal mounted?
Is it in an enclosed mount or an open mount?
Is it remotely operated?

But what are the advantages of your vehicle over a Merkava Mk 4 or Namera (Both vehicles carry 8 infantry; one is an MBT the other is based on the Merkava Mk 1 and cost only $750,000)?

From: Chaz Stacheeseki, Duke of Vin’ng

Also could a more powerful engine be put in?
Where is the .50 cal mounted?
Is it in an enclosed mount or an open mount?
Is it remotely operated?

But what are the advantages of your vehicle over a Merkava Mk 4 or Namera (Both vehicles carry 8 infantry; one is an MBT the other is based on the Merkava Mk 1 and cost only $750,000)?


OOC: I appreciate your input...how do you calculate RHA Values? I've been trying to find that out for a good while now. I'd feel a lot safer knowing the RHA values, instead of just adding layers and hoping it would be good enough (like what I did with this).

The .50 Calibre is top-mounted (even though it shows a 7.62 MG in the picture. The 7.62mm included with the APC is Coaxial mounted at the front, and another at the rear door (which swings, not lowers).

It's open, and manned, however modifications can be made for a remote turret upon order. Mk. IIs will have Remote Turrets standard.

As for comparing to the Merkava...I haven't been able to find RHA or Armour Schemes to compare. Arkanaland's C.D.I. uses Merkava 4s as their MBT, but that will likely change. One could assume, that since this is a specialized vehicle, designed specifically for troop movement, that it would generally have better protection, as there wouldn't be the need to cut back armour with the addition of a heavy turret and gun. In fact, the APC this is based off is of Israeli making, you probably noticed...old T-55 hulls.

Personnally, I designed this in direct comparison to the American Bradley. I can safely say that it has a much better survivability rate. Of course, it lacks the 20mm cannon, and technically the Bradley is an IFV, so one could expect it to hav elighter armour in favor for meneuverability.

As for the price...$750,000? Can't beat that. Again, I was using the Bradley as a comparison - which usually sells for some odd 2,500,000 or so in NS.

The Mk. II will deffinately have better protection.

Larger engines can be special ordered...the original APC had a 650HP engine, yet of course, it is a couple of tonnes lighter. Just specify your needs. Again, the Mk. II will have a larger engine as well.

This is only my second design. Hopefully I can improve my designs...every comment helps.