Concremian Expulsion of Religion [Archive]

Concremo

12-10-2005, 22:53

The light fell through the satined-glass windows into a splash of colour on the Church floor, the natural lighting providing a stark contrast to the deep shadows. The Reverend stood at the altar and looked down upon his congregation, a mere twenty people. Religion in general had been on the rapid decline in Concremo, with the Church having to pull back overseas missionaries to provide a more active role back home. But it was their home no more.

The massive, reinforced oak doors were flung open as a Squad of Concremian Soldiers marched in, three abreast for five rows with the Sergeant leading them at the front. The people stood in silence and moved well away from the Soldiers, some crossing themselves and others seeking an exit. The face-pannels of the Sergeant opened up, revealing a face you would find under the helmet of every other Concremian Soldiers.

Three of the Sixteen troops stayed at the door, and eleven more taking up positions around the Monestary. The other two and the Sergeant continuing their march down the aisle. Their highly polished white armour was the opposite of the Church itself, wood and stone with rich, deep colours. The Soldiers seemed cold and mechanical, the only their single orange eye embedded in the helmet showing signs of life.

'Thompson, John. Reverend of the Concremian Church. ID 875-345-123CW,' spoke the Sergeant with a voice that demanded obedience, 'You are hereby convicted of Conspiracy to Commit Treason, Spreading Propaganda Among the Populace and Failure to Pay Tax to the Liraton Government. Your Warrant for Execution was signed today at 8:17 AM. By Protocol 17A, you are given a choice.'

As he finished speaking the remaining two Soldiers restrained the man, taking an arm each and forcing him onto his knees. The Sergeant leveled his Assault Rifle and adjusted his grip. The sound of the gun cocking resounded through the building, and the Civilians cowered. The Reverend was sweating and trembling, but the look in his eyes showed only faith.

'Do you rennounce your chosen idol of worship, it all its forms, and accept Re-Education or Deportation to preserve your life as an obedient and productive Citizen of Concremo?'
'Never! G-' The Reverend began, but he was cut short by the gunshot. His head was jerked back by the force of the bullet, but the body had barely hit the ground before a Soldier put him into a thick black canvas body-bag and zipped it up.

The Sergeant turned to the Civilians in the Church, and gestured for the Soldiers to move them into a truck which was waiting outside. All across the country the procedure was being repeated with houses of worship for any religion, the leaders given a single, faith-straining question before either being executed on the spot or loaded up with the Followers. Homes were raided for religious articles, and anyone with a record of religion was packed onto the trucks.

Nations of the World,
Due to recent terrorist activities within our Nation we see the need for the expulsion or execution of religious leaders and the re-education or expulsion of their followers. We have approximately 26 million people who shall be Re-Educated, but any nation willing to take them off our hands would be more than welcome.

The High Council of Concremo

The Kraven Corporation

12-10-2005, 22:58

To: The Concremo High Council
From: The High Command

We would be willing to take these, Religious dissidents and Re-educate them in the ways of true civil obidience, We can assure you that these people, if at all they can be called that, will no longer belive the ideals of their Religion, favouring instead the Omnipitent Power of Force by arms. We will make preperations for the Removal of these Citizens at once, If needed we will dispatch Elements of the Capitol Police to ensure that the Operation is carried out, The Short sharp shock of authority will ensure nothing Could go wrong.

The High Command

Halberdgardia

12-10-2005, 23:22

To: The High Council of Concremo
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Re: Deportation

The Imperium condemns this damnable act of oppression on the part of the Concremian government. Despite our revulsion for this unwarranted crackdown on religion, we are still willing to provide a new, freer home for the refugees who have chosen to flee the repressive regime of Concremo. Waves of C-350 "Stormbringer" ultra-heavy cargo lifter aircraft (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9449401&postcount=28), with a carrying capacity of 2,000 persons per craft, are en route to evacuate as many refugees as possible. They will be escorted by three squadrons of F-175 Defender fighters (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9640637&postcount=69).

Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia

The Macabees

12-10-2005, 23:24

Blood Stains in Concremo

The Holy Church of the Broken Dawn (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php?title=Holy_Church_of_the_Broken_Dawn) hadn't expanded much out of the area of the Empire, however, they did have a few churches here and there, normally in seperated areas, and those countries that endorsed Catholocism normally did not respect the churches of the Broken Dawn, since it was the response to Roman Catholocism's irresponsibilities and lies when it came down to the word of God. Indeed, the Broken Dawn was commonly called Imperial Catholocism, after the fact that it had been the Empire that had founded the Church in 2005, under the rule of Jonach I, the first Emperor of the Second Empire, and now continued by his heir, Fedor I.

There were two Imperial Catholic churches in Concremo, both of them within twenty kilometers of each other, in two small villages that had been specifically founded by clergy some seven years ago, and had barely grown to around sixty or so followers. However, they had hoped to use them as some sort of a stepping stone to expand the religion into Concremo. They were wrong, and they would turn out to be dead wrong.

The squad of soldiers had broken into the two churches at the same time, both squads when the same apparel and motionless, robotic, faces, all during the Sunday morning mass. Father Sankeich looked up, and his face dropped wide open as the men poured in,"This is a house of God. Only those that come in peace can come at all."

The lead soldier didn't respond, and instead retorted with,"Sankeich, Robin. Father of the Imperial Catholic Church. ID 994-742-698CW. 'You are hereby convicted of Conspiracy to Commit Treason, Spreading Propaganda Among the Populace and Failure to Pay Tax to the Liraton Government. Your Warrant for Execution was signed today at 8:17 AM. By Protocol 17A, you are given a choice." His face stood emotionless, and Sankeich gripped the podium in front of him, and responded,"Leave, now."

All the while, two soldiers had flanked him and they slugged their assault rifles around their right shoulder, and took a grip of both of the father's arms. They turned their faces to him, revealing their single orange eye, and said calmly,"Kneel." The man refused to, and they tugged on him, but he still stood there, refusing to follow their orders and they simply kicked out his knees, forcing him to the ground while he scramed in pain, his voice unheard by God. The man to his right said just as calmly,"Do you rennounce your chosen idol of worship, it all its forms, and accept Re-Education or Deportation to preserve your life as an obedient and productive Citizen of Concremo?"

Sankeich simply said,"I am a citizen of the Golden-"

He was not given time to answer and the second soldier pulled his hair and head back, as the father clenched his teeth. The man repeated,"Do you rennounce your chosen idol of worship, it all its forms, and accept Re-Education or Deportation to preserve your life as an obedient and productive Citizen of Concremo?"

Sankeich laughed and simply answered,"Pedicabo te."

He was shot on the spot, and those sixty listening to his mass were massacred in their chosen beches, the blood staining the marble floors, built from the money of the Empire. It was a slaughter, with over sixty citizens of the country killed, and over two hundred clergy members, including nuns, executed in their place by the Concremo military. But, such a heinous insult to the church would not be let go easily, and news spread fast, and so the Empire rumbled.

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To: His Majesty Fedor I

It seem as as if our brethren in Concremo are acting up, and church documents and official news claims over two hundred of our citizens massacred in their country, due to their religion; all without a chance to tell them from where they originated from. What a shame, of course, for our own clergymen, but more for Concremo that now has to deal with the wrath of a Church, albeit a rather new church, but a church with a proportionally huge Empire, both in territory and population. Threats nonwithstanding, the Church has been insulted, threatened and spat at, and we simply will not stand for that. The Broken Dawn will act, and hopefully your majesty will be with us, regardless of the status of the War of Golden Succession.

True, we cannot do anything now, as our military is tied up to deal with heretic rebels and two nations that envy our power, but no doubt, the Church will deal with this at some point, and even perhaps our second crusade during our founding. Do not doubt for one second, as said before, that we will act. Concremo shall be punished, and I find this as the perfect opportunity to finally expand the religion past our own borders, without having to wait for Haven's armies to crumble and our rebels to be smashed.

Nonetheless, I did not come here to diplotalk you into a crusade; I came to you to forewarn you of the future. Religious wars will begin anew, by the will of God.

[signed]Transguff I, Pontifex Maximus of the Holy Church of the Broken Dawn

[OOC: Unlike other nations, this won't turn into a war for territory. I found this to be a perfect opportunity for the first of many of my religious wars, and hopefully you'll agree; it should be fun. Again, it's not a war for territory, it's a war over religion....and wars nonwithstanding, I'm currently in a huge war, so it would happen for a while...just the prelimanaries I guess...with my religion trying to continue its presence in Concremo, even expanding it, and continously being shut down by you...again, should be fun.]

New Sans

12-10-2005, 23:43

OOC: Did you at least consult him about your church thing? I'm not so sure he'll enjoy another nations churches all of a suddenly appearing in his nation during the cleansing without some notification.

IC:

Official State Communiqué
To: The High Council of Concremo
It has come to our nations attention that your nation has come into posession of an ammount of "persons" that you would be willing to send to other nations. If the council would like for our nation to take any ammount of them off your hands we would be glad to oblige them in that matter. The Republic could have some use for them in "classified projects".

General Mĕane, High Chancellor
The People's Republic of New Sans

Saint Fedski

12-10-2005, 23:56

To:The High Council of Concremo
From: Holy Empire of Saint Fedski Department of Foreign Affairs

Sirs, it is with great pleasure that we accept your offer of deporting these poor soul from your nation. We will use our national airline to bring these people to the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski and we will charge nothing for taking these people off your hands. We do warn you however that anymore killing of the nature described above will be condemned. (We can take up to 10 million)

Sincerely,
Sir Jesse Russel, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

OOC: How would this change of hands be recognized by the game if any? I have a population of 18 million and another 26 million would bump it up quite a bit, but when I RP wars and stuff, other players would say my Military is out of whack...how would I let it be known that 26 million people immigrated over night?

Cypresaria

13-10-2005, 00:04

Telegram
From:Cypresaria

To : Concremo

The Armed republic of Cypresaria offers unconditional military and logistical support to Concremo in the event of an attack on Concremo by religious forces.

Boris the second

President for life

Cypresaria

New Sans

13-10-2005, 00:09

OOC: How would this change of hands be recognized by the game if any? I have a population of 18 million and another 26 million would bump it up quite a bit, but when I RP wars and stuff, other players would say my Military is out of whack...how would I let it be known that 26 million people immigrated over night?

OOC: I guess a link to this thread might be then enough to show where they came from, but this is assuming you get 26 million people from Concremo let alone any at all.

Cherry Ridge

13-10-2005, 00:38

King John Antonette leaned back in a chair. Various military and intelligence officers were seated along the table.

"Intelligence reports indicate priests and toher religious who do not renounce the faith are being executed in Concremo." said an Air Corp general, "And congregations being sent to reeducation camps."

"Is this confirmed?" the King asked, directed at an OSS agent.

"Yes it is, sir."

"What should we do about it?" asked the king.

"Majesty, we believe that a unified military strike against Concremo is justified."

"We should send a warning first sir."

"Are you all in agreement?" asked the King.

"We are sir, we are." replied everyone.
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Sattelite Message to Concremo
The Holy Catholic Monarchy of Cherry Ridge demands that you cease the executing of priests and other religious at once, or face a Ridgian responce.

The Macabees

13-10-2005, 01:02

OOC: Did you at least consult him about your church thing? I'm not so sure he'll enjoy another nations churches all of a suddenly appearing in his nation during the cleansing without some notification.

[OOC: No, that's why I left that huge OOC note. But, it isn't too farfetched that an official religion with a support base as large as my country would have at leat two churches in countries abroad; and I specifically clarified that the following in his country was incredibly small.]

Mirkana

13-10-2005, 01:26

Mirkanan Citizen killed in Concremo

Mary Solbek, a Mirkanan reservist vacationing in Concremo, was admiring the sculptures in the church when armed Concremian soldiers burst in. Like the others, she was forced to the ground.

An officer asked her, "Do you rennounce your chosen idol of worship, all its forms, and accept Re-Education or Deportation to preserve your life as an obedient and productive Citizen of Concremo?"
She replied, "I am a Mirkanan citizen!"
The officer kicked her to the ground, and began to repeat his question, when another soldier executed a defiant priest with a burst of rifle fire. Solbek reacted by reflexively drawing her service pistol (few Mirkanans go places without a firearm). When the officer turned his gun on her, she fired in self-defense. The other guards opened fire on her, and Private Mary Solbek was killed instantly.

When General Remmol, the Mirkanan head of state, found out, he was furious.

To: The Concremo High Council
From: General Ken Remmol

I have learned that one of my citizen-soldiers, Private Mary Solbek, was killed in your country's cleansing of religion. I demand the following things:
A public apology
The body of Private Mary Solbek in good condition
The live soldier(s) who killed her, to be dealt with as I see fit

If you refuse ANY of these offers, you will anger me. Do not anger me.

New Sans

13-10-2005, 01:37

[OOC: No, that's why I left that huge OOC note. But, it isn't too farfetched that an official religion with a support base as large as my country would have at leat two churches in countries abroad; and I specifically clarified that the following in his country was incredibly small.]

OOC: Guess we'll just have to wait and see then, should be interesting to see the response since I'm guessing he didn't plan for that to happen. :p

IC:

The ocean was tumultuous, constantly pounding up against the ships side. The NSS Battalion had just pulled out from harbor in New Sans. Its captain Vic Reynolds was not in a good mood.

“I want to know why in the hell are we out here in the early morning heading to god knows where right now.”

”Sir we have received word from General Mĕane himself that we are to head to international waters outside of the nation known as Concremo. This ship shall start the process of picking up any persons handed over to our nation, additional ships will be sent if there is more cargo then anticipated.” The first mate explained handing a copy orders to Captain Reynolds.

“So let me get this straight, we are heading out to Concremo to pick up random people?”

“Yes Captain.”

“Okay fair enough, but this decision by their government most likely won’t be taken well by other nations and this could result in a war and hell if I want to be there when that happens.”

“In the case of war our ship is to remain in international waters monitoring the situation, and in no way are to get involved unless fired upon first.”

“This is going to be a trip I’ll want to forget” Captain Reynolds thought as he turned his attention to the seas in the storm. “This does not bode well.”

Civitas Americae

13-10-2005, 02:19

Emperor Paul VII looked up from his paperwork as a guard entered with a report in hand.

"Your Majesty, I believe you need to take a look at this."

"What is it?"

"The Empire of Concremo is attacking all religious persons within their borders. Already several thousand priests and religious have been martyred."

"Put the Air Force and organized militia on alert immediately, and dispatch the Navy and Marines. Send Concremo an ultimatum, we will not stand for this."

"At once Your Majesty"

4 Joan of Arc-class BBGN battlegroups deployed to coast of Concremo along with 6 Emperor-Saint-class CBGs, and three Marine divisions (one armored, two mech infantry; with accompanying support vessels).

To the High Council of Concremo:
Your attacks on the rights of your citizens to worship God, and the accompanying attack on the Faith, is repugnant and an offense against all mankind. We demand that you cease these attacks at once and make reparation to those affected, and reserve the right to respond by any means deemed necessary and moral should you fail to do so.

His Imperial Majesty,
Paul VII of Civitas Americae

Saint Fedski

13-10-2005, 02:29

*ring ring*
"Hello?" says the Secretary for Vice Admiral William A. Bridges.

"Admiral Bridges please." The voice on the other end instructs in a rather impatient manner.

"May I ask who's calling?"

"Jesse Russel, Minister of Foreign Affairs." He says importantly. "And its very urgent"

"Right away Sir" She replies.

The secretary buzzes Admiral Bridges deputy Commodore George Collins.

"Hello Commodore, are you there?" She asks impatiently.

"Yes Lieutenant I am."

"There's a call from Sir Jesse Russel for Admiral Bridges, he says it's urgent. Can you put him through?"

"I can and will" Replies Commodore Collins.

Commodore Collins gets on radio and radios the HES Girardi, the flagship of the Second Naval Task Force (which is out on exercises).

"Admiral, it's Collins. The Minister of Foreign Affairs is on the line, it's urgent"

"Put him through George" The Admiral replies inquisitively.

"Hello. Admiral Bridges here."

"Good morning Admiral, sorry to disturb you on your exercise but this is very important. Madam Hay would have contacted you herself, but she is in some meetings. Now to the point, there is human rights issue in Concremo. You are ordered to take your ships and set sail immediately. I know you have no aircraft on board at this moment, they will be flown out immediately. You will have 40 A-4 Skyhawks, and 2 CH-47 Chinooks initially. Joining you will be aircraft from the Republic of North St. Clair aboard another aircraft carrier. Your job is to protect and save the refugees. Your ROE: Don't fire unless there is a definite threat to your safety. That is all for now. More information to come when as we recieve it. Good luck Admiral."

"Yes Sir. Thank you Sir. We shall do our best" Admiral Bridges responded and in the background before the phone was hung up, The Admiral was heard shouting "Full power, clear off the decks, everyone at battle stations. We've got a mission"

Kahanistan

13-10-2005, 02:29

From:

President Mohammed bin Yusuf al-Za'if
Senator Khalid bin Abdullah al-Omari, President of the Senate
Interior Minister Vladimir Zygonov

To: Government of Concremo

The Government of Kahanistan strongly condemns the murders of religious leaders. We are suspending diplomatic relations with your state and accepting all refugees from Concremo into our country.

Derscon

13-10-2005, 02:37

Council Room, Kremlin Palace

Rekjyavich Andropov Military City

"Well, this is an interesting -- and clearly unpleasing -- development," the man at the head of the table commented. This man was Czar Alexei Alexandrovich Andropov XIV, Monarch of the Divine Prussian Empire of Derscon, and Emperor of the Greater Prussian Empire, and a devout Christian. He was very upset with these new occurences in Concremo.

"You are correct," responded Yuri Golovko, the Minister of State Security. "It is our duty as a Christian Nation to defend our brothers. We must strike at them, and strike at them now!" And here it goes, Alexei thought to himself. Debate time.

"Absolutely not!" Foreign Minister Count Franz von Papen retorted. "War is the last option, not the first! We must talk to everyone and get them to stand down!"

Well, to sum it up, this debating went on for ten minutes. Papen and Golovko were always at each other's throats. Franz von Papen is the wisest and oldest member of the government, being in there since the time of Czar Rekjyavich Ivan Andropov the Second, while Golovko entered service under RIA the third. Now that that brief diversion is over....

"OKay," Alexei interjected, finally ending the debate. "All military expiditionary units are to be mobilized immediately. However, they are not to leave Dersconi territory. Franz, I want you to call a summit here in RAMC with all involved parties. Maybe we can talk these people out of it and prevent a war. Get to it, this meeting is ajourned."
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Greater Prussian Imperial News Network

Good evening, I'm Ivan Narminov here at Reichsburg, Reichskamphen studios. Recently, the Czar of Derscon, Alexei Andropov, has announced that an Expiditionary Force has been mobilized, should events in Concremo escilate. He has assured the public that they are only a precautionary measure and not as a first-strike force. The Royal Superfleet has been entirely mobilized, as has Division I, First Corps, and the Second Strike Air Force has also been mobilized.

However, more importantly, the Foreign Minister of Derscon, Count Franz von Papen, has announced that an emergency summit was called in Derscon. The Czar wishes that all involved parties with the Concremo situation come to Derscon to discuss it, as to hopefully solve the problem with words instead of lives.

Now to your local news. God Bless.

Cherry Ridge

13-10-2005, 02:49

John Antonette flipped off the television and rolled his eyes,
"Dersconi government having a peace summit?" he asked himself, "Great." He threw down his papers, and got on the phone.

"Call off all forces, though remain on high alert. Notify all Burgundian governments to stand down, attend the conference, and keep militaries on alert. If the Concremians do not attend the conference, commence attack."

Message to Burgundians
Stand down, keep military on high alert, and attend Derscons conference. If the Concremians do not attend, commence with attack.
-King John I
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King John boarded his plane, and flew to Derscon.
Dersconi Air Control, this is Burgundian One, requesting permission to land at usual spot.

Imitora

13-10-2005, 02:56

Imitorans love to fight wars. It was part of the culture. Despite the modern technology, the fancy ships of the naval and exo atmospheric fleets, the technological wonders of the Imitora Naval Air Force, the marvels of the Imitoran Defense Weapons Force, and all other groups of nifty military toys, they were still a tribal people at heart, their Germanic and Gaelic roots showing proudly in war. Regardless of their weapons of choice, the Imitoran Military was known for its no nonsense, kickass and take names to kick more ass ways. They were brutal, not conforming to any set of laws when it came to war. They would kill whomever stood infront of them, and do so with a chilling and violent efficiancy.

It was said that the Imitoran Military, in all its branches, opperated with the ridgety of the British, the efficiancy of the Israelis, a technological know how unrivaled by anyone, and as brutal as the army of Vlad Tepes. Their dedication to victory rivaled that of the forces of the many Inquisitions, and many of thier intelligence gathering tactics shared a connection. The Imitoran military truely was bad.

And thats why their observance of their regional allies movement sparked intrest throughout the Imitoran chain of command. However, no mobilization was made, no troops moved to strike. Instead, the Imitorans moved to a fight they had not done in a good long time. They went defensive, so to say. PANTER, SkyRain, Shattered Sky, DEFNET, and a number of other national defense units came on line. Satalites, both intelligence, attack, and hunter/killer, began the space based dance of death, moving gracefully through the inky blackness to start identifying possible targets that would threaten the Imitoran home land.

And despite calls for a summit, or other random peace talk that many a Imitoran prayed would fail, the IMRCONCOM began to take information from satalite maps and news sources that would allow for an assault that would not only be effective, but deadly as well.

Jeruselem

13-10-2005, 13:08

Jeruselem Government News

Official press release from her highness, Queen Mariah Penelope-Rebecca Stuart of Jeruselem

We, the people of Jeruselem condemn the actions of government of Concremo. The Jeruselem Catholic Church, Sunni Moslem Clerics, Protestant Ministers and Greek Orthordox Church in Jeruselem are unified in their opposition to the actions of government of Concremo.

We will along with fellow members of Greater Prussian Empire and similarly minded nations, urge these actions stop now.

God bless

Concremo

13-10-2005, 16:09

Nations of the World,
It has come to our attention that some of you wish to strike us for our actions, but we believe that you are sadly misinformed. The 20-Protocol Command was given to certain Legions of Concremian Soldiers, and these clear instructions stated that Religious Leaders were to be executed or deported, with their following deported without question. We ensure you that these orders were followed to the letter, and the only people killed during this action were Religious Leaders who refused to surrender their faith, or bystanders who saw fit to retaliate against our troops. It seems that various news services have been exaggerating the bloodshed.

The death count is currently fixed at 19,329, with a revised figure of 46 million people held by the Army. Of those; our facilities can re-educate approximately 24 million within the month but we do not wish for the others to remain within our borders. A small, unnamed island lies 150nm from the Concremian Coastline and in the weeks building up to this action we have built large temporary housing facilities, an airfeild and a small dock. The remaining 22 million civillians will be shipped there, starting immediately and any nations willing to take our refugees can collect them at will. There will be no Concremian forces on or near the island, but they will be on high alert at the mainland coast. What happens there is of no concern to us, and if blood is shed there we shall not intervene.

It has also come to our attention that so-called 'peace talks' are being arranged. These are pointless, as we do not wish for war. However, we will be sending three ambassidors and twelve squads of infantry to relay information to the Council. If any of your citizens are among the deceased, then it is for good reason. They were blinded by faith if they thought that even a building-full of unarmed civilians could tackle our Soldiers; and people that misguided are of no use to us at all.

We feel that our actions for this expulsion of religious persons was appropriate; as other nations would have butchered the masses we have given them the choice of changing or leaving. Those who responded to us with violence chose the option of death.

As for any nations who have condemned us, we shall take that as a compliment to the efficiency of our action.

The High Council of Concremo

The Nation of Mirkana,
The High Council considers your requests to be a waste of everybodies time. We have video evidence from the OmniCam of Soldier 234-783-468M that your citizen opened fire on Concremian Soldiers, thus giving her an immediate warrant for execution on sight. The body has already been sent to the Incineration Plants, and was Processed at 1:21 PM this afternoon. As for the Soldier who is responsible for her death, there will be no sanctions against him of any kind as any other Concremian Soldier in his position would have rightfully done the same.
We are not going to appologise, and it would be foolish to try and force us.

The High Council of Concremo

ooc: Macabees, i'd be happy to play venue for your crusade, but as long as it isn't a dogpile at the scale this is escalating to. Also there is a huge underground movement known as the Concremian Resistance, who would be more than happy to accept any number of your whackos into their ranks.

Civitas Americae

13-10-2005, 16:51

"This is ANN with an important news bulletin:

At 10:37 AM the Navy and War Departments announced that the Navy, Air Force, and organized milita are now at DEFCON 1. The Marine Corps has been ordered to DEFCON 2. All reserve units have been ordered to mobilize. Furthermore, the 1963 War and National Emergency Censorship Act has been activated.

All citizens are urged to make sure that their nuclear emergency shelters and equipment are at full readiness. Unorganized militia armories are now being opened in order to distribute any necessary NBC gear to civilians."

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To the High Council of Concremo:
It is the demand of Civitas Americae that you immediately:
1. Free all those detained by your military.
2. Restore all property seized from those persons and their religious organizations.
3. Make complete reparation to the families of those who have been killed.
4. Open your nation to international inspectors who will confirm that the above requirements have been met.

Failure to meet these requirements will result in grave consequences to your nation.

His Imperial Magesty,
Paul VII

Saint Fedski

13-10-2005, 17:21

The HES Girardi steams into Concremian territorial waters with its escort of 2 cruisers and an airwing of 40 A-4 Skyhawk attack aircraft. Eight large ocean freighters and three supertankers accompany the group. The HES Russel is still a day away carrying 40 A-4 Skyhawks from the Republic of South St. Clair.

"Admiral [Collins], Admiral Ken Murphy is on the horn."

"Put him through sailor"
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"Admiral Collins here."

"Collins, its Admiral Murphy. I have some infor for you. The exiles have been moved to a nearby island, location unknown. Get as many of the people aboard your ships as possible. Prevent any interference from the Concremian military. If any civillians are threatend you have authorization to use necessary force to protect them and yourselves. The HES Russel carrying a further 100 marines. That is all at this point. Good luck George. Over."

"Thank you Admiral, we will do our best to serve and protect. Over and out."
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A voice blared over the loud speakers:
"Marine Unit One onto the chinooks. Marine Unit Two, down to the loading deck."

On board the chinooks and landing craft the marines learned of their mission and their ROE. All were very nervous as they did not know what to expect.

Imitora

13-10-2005, 17:23

Her Majesty Anna Sophia Fratelli chuckled at the site. So many small, insignificant upstarts throwing around orders and commands like they ruled anything beyond a future colony. She smiled as she watched thie Imitoran news reports regarding a popular movement among her people for the war. Of course, the information has a slight delay, miliseconds at most, but that was enough time in Imitora for change.

She closed her eyes as she sipped her wine, a red from the Imitoran south, as the Gulfstream VI SP slid through the air effortlessly towards Derscon. She had decided to do what Imitoran leaders in the past had done, let the generals fight the war while she went to "talk" it out. OF course, she had plans at the talk, plans that would most likely drive the nail into the coffin of this little pissant known Concremo. They may not desire war, but the people of Imitora did. As she soared towards Derscon, actions were being set into motion in Imitora that would, at the hope of the people, bring the offenders of whatever offense was being commited to a burning hulk.

The Imitoran defense network had been fully operational for just under two hours when the comanders of the Imitoran military branches began to set assault plans into motion. The 7th and 15th battle groups of the Third Fleet, and the 32nd Land Assault group from the Sixth Fleet, began to set sail towards the open oceans.

Across Imitora, active duty Marines were being called into their home bases, preparing for a possible landing, from all three options. It took little time before they were back into their old habbits, constantly practicing room to room and house clearing, heliborne assault, and the like, waiting for the word to come in that they would attack. As Fratelli arrived in Derscon to talk, they prepared to land in Concremo to fight.

Concremo

13-10-2005, 18:06

-snip-

ooc: I dont have a problem with your RPing or actions, but if you're FT then i'm ignoring you. Dogpiling like this is bad enough without lasers and death raining on me from space.

Imitora

13-10-2005, 18:23

Edited, I can leave them out and kick ass just as easily.

Cherry Ridge

13-10-2005, 19:47

ooc- just as a heads up, non Dersconi troops are not allowed in RAMC.

Rolatia

13-10-2005, 19:58

Dr Edwards look at the news, and shook his head in disbelief. "They're doing WHAT?!?" he shouted to himself. "This is just not right. I'm no religious person, but it's just wrong to abolish religious. Millions taken away...". He then realized in a way, he was unable to stop them - his military was relatively small and on secret DEFCON 4 for a prepared invasion of the UK. He knew a small thing he could do though...
TO: Concremo
Greetings,
We abhor your actions with the abolition of religion in your country. We urge that you back down from your actions. If you do not wish to, we will be willing to take any of the people you have detained into our own country, where they will be taken into Rolatian society. We urge you to accept our order. As you know, our lands in Holland are very close to yours in southern Norway (OOC: On Earth VII) so it will be a short air or naval trip for them. We ourselves can dispatch approximately enough planes for 1.6 million people per trip, at 4000 planes per trip, although if you are willing to assist in deportation it would help
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia
OOC: Highly busy, so I can only play a small part in your roleplay. Very interested in this though, it will be interesting to see people's reactions

The Kraven Corporation

13-10-2005, 20:01

With the sudden increase in activity around the Waters of Concremo, and their immediate Neighbours, The Kraven Corporation, the High Command has stepped the Defcon Status up from Defcon: Black, to Defcon Crimson.

The 1st, 2nd and 3rd Kraven Battlfleets have been deployed from Numonican waters and will arrive at Concremo International waters in Approximatly 3 Hours.

As for the Human Resources, Several Vtol Super carriers have been launched from Kravonika and are on route, their orders are to ferry as many of the Resources straight to the Corporate Mining Facility, where they shall serve out the rest of their lives.

Also Several Vtol Assault Craft have been deployed and are on route to Concremo, to assist in the Defense of Concremo soil should hostile actions take place, the Corporation has mobilised the 13th Panzergrenadier Legion.

Follows is a message to all nations involved:

All nations Entering Concremo Territorial Waters are Ordered to stand down, Being the Direct Neighbour of The Concremo Government, we see this as a Direct threat to the Corporation, Until it has been decided that Vessels or Air craft entering these waters are Not Hostile towards the Corporation, Fleet and Air movments will be monitored and/or shot down,Depending on the Circumstances to which the Ships or Aircraft have acted, This is in Accordance the Doctrine 68513 of the Kraven Civil Law Dossier.

The High Command

SLI Sector

13-10-2005, 20:11

(Secert telegram)

FROM: Vicki-Y
TO: The Concremo Government

"Hello, Concremo. You don't know who we are, I suppose. My name is Vicki-Y, the ambassdor to the UN for SLI Sector, a small nation that believes in some of the same doctrines as you.

We have listened to what the international community has said and we agree with you on certain points. We too have dealt with terroristic organizations and has suppressed them. Other nations opposed us and we fought against them. And we won.

Just so you know, I will campagin for the United Nations to support your crusade. You are fighting against terrorists, who are using religion as a way to convey their hatered of you. We hope this dialouge will end on a peaceful note, and those nations that seek to protect those 'religions' back down.

And, if there is any war that will occur, we will try to help you.

I do ask that you join the United Nations, though, because we, as an organization supports your duty to crush terrorism, and if you join the UN, you can use their help to defend against those that wish to take you over. I also ask that you donate some soilders to help out the UN (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=449442), since the UN is in support of fighting terorrism and is not in support of those greedy upstarts who seek to take you over. Plus, a donation may allow me to help sway people to support you and act as a defensive measure against the war.

Thank you for your time. I await a reply."

New Sans

13-10-2005, 21:00

OOC: there goes me getting there first. :p

IC:

International Waters

Onboard the NSS Battalion had gotten hectic. The arrival of multiple fleets on the scene made Captain Reynolds nervous. “Why in the hell are we still here, it’s obvious now that we want to get out of here while the getting’s good.”

”Sir, we have received new orders. We are to head to the island off the coast of and prepare a LZ for several cargo ships to transport of as many civilians out of that hell hole as possible back to our nation. The CVBG Tridant will accompany them and remain in international waters to cover the transports as they return so that no hostilities break out” The first mate explained.

“Well guess we are going in then, order all weapons stations to stand down unless necessary."

Sans City, New Sans Capital

General Mĕane had been going over the situation carefully. There were twenty two million civilians being stuffed on that island and with war seeming imminent due to fleet movements he felt it best to at least attempt to get as many civilians as they could out of there before the blood spilled. Besides if Concremo decided it could probably wipe them all out in a single stoke, and that would be bad for the “projects”.

His secretary decided to ask some questions about this, but of course this was a bad idea for her, “General what exactly are these projects you keep babbling about?”

“Well my dear if I told you I’d have to kill you, but of course we’re all friends here so why the hell not.” he said moving along side the secretary’s desk. “We aren’t going to be using many of the people we get out of there, if we get any of them at all, but mainly we’re going to be testing new vaccines on them and the occasional new disease we’ve come up with. Of course they will have to be infected with a disease first for the vaccines to be properly tested, but that’s a small price to pay for progress. Besides it’s not going to be like anyone would notice a couple hundred people disappearing in a mission with potentially hundreds of thousands of new returnees.”

“You can’t be serious sir, that’s a gross violation of human rights, and I can’t allow this to continue.”

“I know my dear, I know”, General Mĕane sighed as he slipped the knife he had been holding between the secretary’s ribs. “Damn, now I need to find another secretary. I don’t understand why they keep asking so many questions, they’re just secretaries” he said chuckling to himself quietly.

Saint Fedski

13-10-2005, 21:25

The Kraven Corporation

13-10-2005, 21:40

**Telegram**
To: The Kraven Corporation
From: Sir Jesse Russell, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

Sir,

It is with great respect that we say we do not want to come into conflict with your nation. However our military in Concremian territorial waters is soley to protect our rescue teams and the rescuees. The marines are to protect them on land and are only lightly armed. If we fired upon or the people we are rescuing are fired upon (shot, tortured, beat up et cetera) they have orders to return fire in self-defence. We are here solely to increase our population and hopefully help the economy out. Again we do not want conflict but we will return fire if fired upon.

Sir Jesse Russell, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

To:Sir Jesse Russell, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski
From: The High Command

Your fleet and marines are Ordered to stand down, and return to international waters, This is your only and final warning, until the Corporation is satisfied that your rescue operation has no other "intentions" your Military will be seen as Hostile, Again... Order your fleet and Marines to stand down and return to International waters, We can assure you, your rescue Teams will not be fired upon and not Harmed in anyway.

The High Command

The Kraven Fleet was making good headway back towards Territorial waters, The Admirals were in meeting discussing the situation and status of each possibly hostile fleet inbound to Territorial Waters...

"What happens if they are hostile?"

"Then We open fire, we have well over 3000 ships in these 3 battlefleets, we can deal with anything there..." one admiral spoke...

"I agree, However Kravonika is on stand by, and is ready to launch the Capitol police if Things turn ugly for Concremo's High Council.... We've assisted them in the Past, and we'll do it again, Concremo has been avid supporters of the Corporation, and besides we have a Chemical Facility there... We need to protect our assets."

There were several nods of approval as the Kraven fleet continued there way towards their goal...

Saint Fedski

13-10-2005, 21:57

Sir Jesse Russell recieves the telegram from the High Command.

"What the hell is this?" He exclaimed to himself, "they know we are a nation of peace and will not cause any harm or trouble!"

He picks up the phone and calls a meeting of the Council.

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Sir Jesse Russell: We must back down, but we must do it in such a way that we don't lose face or look like push overs. We will withdraw in stages and leave a small contingent of armed guards.

Madam Robynne Hay, Minister of Defence: Sir, our Second Naval Task Force is not ready to fight a long war, especially one where we are completely out numbered. We must withdraw completely to prove that we are not willing to fight and in turn they will allow us back in to continue our operation.

Commander in Chief, General Maximus Obliqus: I agree with Sir Russell on this issue. We need to save face if we want any respect. However, I propose that we send Admiral Ken Murphy and small delegatoin to discuss this matter.

Deputy Commander in Chief, Admiral Ken Murphy: I accept my nomination for the job.

Chairman Girardi: Alright Admiral. You go to the Kraven Corporation and work something out with them that allows us to keep face in this situation.

New Sans

13-10-2005, 21:58

The Kraven Corporation

13-10-2005, 22:04

Govenment Communiqué
To: The Kraven Corporation
From: High Chancellor Mĕane
We have recently recived your notice to all fleets moving into Concreman territory are to stand down and such. We wish to inform you of our intention to acquire a number of these civilians for our own purposes. We are willing to simply leave this situation seeing how getting a small amount of the "persons" is not a must for our purposes, but getting a few of them would prove useful to us.

To: High Chancellor Meane
From: The High Command

Withdraw your fleet, the fleet will be assessed, then allowed back into Concreminian waters assuming, The Concremo High Council grants it, We thankyou for your Co-operation, and hope other nations follow your example.

The High Command

Halberdgardia

13-10-2005, 22:12

"Then We open fire, we have well over 3000 ships in these 3 battlefleets, we can deal with anything there..." one admiral spoke...

[OOC: I refuse to accept that you have 3,000 ships around this island. Sarzonia has one of the most powerful navies in all of NS, with some 10,000 vessels, and even he has only 1,000 ships, including supply and logistics craft, on active duty at any one time. Given that Sarzonia is much larger than you are, and that not of all of those vessels are warships, this is acceptable. Your fleet is not. *slaps a Label-'O-Godmod on*]

Saint Fedski

13-10-2005, 22:20

Pschycotic Pschycos

13-10-2005, 22:36

TO: The nation of Concremo
RE: Threats and religious violence

It has come to out attention that several of our allies are currently in a heated diplomatic situation with your nation. While it is our policy to hold national sovereignety supreme over issues of internal affairs, we cannot leave our allies hanging. Therefore, we issue this warning: should any of our allies at any time come into military conflict with forces of your country, we will have no choice but to retaliate in defense of our allies, despite whoever fires the first shot. Furthermore, should non-Dersconi troops try to enter the nation at anytime, we will also see this as an act of war. Bottom line, don't try it.

Signed,
Interim-Shogun Heero Yuy
==============================================
Upon completion of the letter, it was sent out to the nation in question. At the same time, the Interim-Shogun, Heero Yuy, boarded a private jet that set out for the Dersconi peace talks. Near their airspace, the pilot radioed ahead:

This is Psi-Pso One carrying Interim-Shogun Heero Yuy to peace
talks, requesting permission to enter airspace, over.

The Kraven Corporation

13-10-2005, 22:36

[OOC: I refuse to accept that you have 3,000 ships around this island. Sarzonia has one of the most powerful navies in all of NS, with some 10,000 vessels, and even he has only 1,000 ships, including supply and logistics craft, on active duty at any one time. Given that Sarzonia is much larger than you are, and that not of all of those vessels are warships, this is acceptable. Your fleet is not. *slaps a Label-'O-Godmod on*]

OOC: ok let me clarify something here, There are large amounts of International fleets moving into Waters, Literaly Ontop of the Kraven Home land, which is adjacent near enough to Concremo, now The Coporation is a Megacorp and is highly paranoid about everything, and several fleets all of a sudden turning up on my Doorstep is warrant enough to pull 3 of my battlefleets out of the Numonican Docks and these battlefleets include Logistical ships as well as none combat vessels such as Tracking ships and Transport vessels, its is not God-o-Mod it is a Megacorp acting how a Megacorp would in these circumstances. Further more the Kraven Corporation is a totalitarian military state and is quite capabal of mobilising 3 battlefleets of a total of 3,000 ships, being that our military budget is around 75%, Note: this is combined with the law and order budget due to the Military perfoming the job of Policing. /endofrant

New Sans

13-10-2005, 22:38

To: High Chancellor Meane
From: The High Command

Withdraw your fleet, the fleet will be assessed, then allowed back into Concreminian waters assuming, The Concremo High Council grants it, We thankyou for your Co-operation, and hope other nations follow your example.

The High Command

Govenment Communiqué
To: The Kraven Corporation
From: High Chancellor Mĕane

Excellent, and considering we only have one ship in the area and several more on the way it should be relatively east to comply with this. The one ship currently in that area shall be withdrawn to international waters immediately.

On the NSS Battalion

"Sir we have new orders, we are to head back to international waters and await the rest of the fleet."

"Good, staying in these waters with this situation the way it is unsettles me enough."

OOC: For examining purposes here are the ships that are in, and are heading to Concremian waters.

In Concremian waters
NSS Battalion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke_class_destroyer)

Heading to International waters outside of Concremo
NSS Cataclysm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz_class_aircraft_carrier)
NSS Grasp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticonderoga_class_cruiser)
NSS Gauntlet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticonderoga_class_cruiser)
NSS Manta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke_class_destroyer)
NSS Striker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke_class_destroyer)
NSS Reload (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_combat_support_ship)
Two tankers, and 4 cargo ships.

Civitas Americae

13-10-2005, 23:06

Saint Fedski

14-10-2005, 01:47

OOC: Permission to intercept that transmission from Civitas Americae to Kraven Copr? Or have the Kraven Corp. pass it along?

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 02:19

OOC: Permission to intercept that transmission from Civitas Americae to Kraven Copr? Or have the Kraven Corp. pass it along?

OOC: It was public, as was the Kraven Corp. demand.

Cherry Ridge

14-10-2005, 02:30

General Statement
Any attacks agaisnt any Burgundians (Civitas Ameracae) or any other Prussian, the Holy Catholic Monarchy of Cherry Rodge will retaliate and suspend all diplomatic options, unless so asked to stand down by Greater Prussian highups. Therefore, we will be moving Ridgian elements to meet up with the Americaen fleet.

The Second, Fourth, and Sixth battle groups are arriving in International Waters outside Conremian waters, with a total of 35 Ships.

Derscon

14-10-2005, 03:06

Open Broadcast to All Involved Parties

Heads of State,

I again urge you to stand down all military actions and attend the conference at Rekjyavich Andropov Military City before this becomes an armed conflict and people die when it could have been settled peacefully.

Deo Vindice.

Count Franz von Papen
Foreign Minister to the Czar
THe Divine Prussian Empire of Derscon
==============================
Encrypted Broadcast to all Greater Prussian Empire Nations

Do not, I repeat, do not commence any hostile actions. However, I ask that you mobilize your national militaries in a defensive stance only. We will not be the agressors in this war, unless Concremo and the Kraven Corporation will not listen to our discussions.

As of now, a secret mobilization of the Sola Fide Division of the Imperial Guard is mobilized.

God Bless,

Alexei Andropov
Emperor of Greater Prussia

Saint Fedski

14-10-2005, 03:16

This is a message from Vice Admiral William A. Bridges to the ships of the Second Naval Task Force of the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski.
"Attention all hands. Tensions in this area are rising exponentially by the second. No weapons are to be fired unless you are fired at. All combat ships will return to international water, freighters and supertankers may stay within close proximity to the islands in order to make the rescue trips shorter. As of now, we have rescued 1000 persons."
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To: The High Council of Concremo
From: Department of Foreign Affairs, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

Sirs, we have requisitioned four A380 Passenger planes that are now en route to Concremo, they request permission to land near the coast, unless you can provide us with details of a landing strip on the island. They carry no military equipment or weapons of any sort.
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To: The High Council of the Kraven Corporation
From: Department of Foreign Affairs, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

Sirs, there are currently four passenger airliners en route to Concremo. If by chance, they are unable to land on the island, they will fly to a coastal city in Concremo (providing they recieve permission). If they are unable to land on the island and permission to land in Concremo is denied, we request permission to have them land at one of your coastal towns in order to refuel and head home.

New Sans

14-10-2005, 03:29

Open Broadcast to All Involved Parties

Heads of State,

I again urge you to stand down all military actions and attend the conference at Rekjyavich Andropov Military City before this becomes an armed conflict and people die when it could have been settled peacefully.

Deo Vindice.

Count Franz von Papen
Foreign Minister to the Czar
THe Divine Prussian Empire of Derscon
==============================

OOC: Will there be a seperate thread for the conference or is it going to be held in here?

IC:

Govenment Communiqué
To: Count Franz von Papen

Dear Sir,

Our nation has seen your request to hold a conference in Rekjyavich Andropov Military City. Since we happen to have a small number of ships waiting in international waters to transport civilians off ot the island they are put on we would like to ask if it would be alright if our nation sent a delegate to help try and resolve this matter peaceably and if it must come to blows that those civilians put on the island are safely removed before any more harm can come to them.

General Mĕane
The People's Republic of New Sans

Mirkana

14-10-2005, 05:46

In retaliation, the Concremian embassy in Redwater (largest Mirkanan city, and where we put embassies) was closed. Mirkanan troops stormed the complex, tranquilized the Ambassador, and sent him and his staff on a cargo transport to Concremo. All documents - including Concremian state secrets - were captured.

The Mirkanan Embassy left Concremo quickly, but not before delivering this notice to other Mirkanan citizens:
From: General Remmol
To: All Mirkanan citizen-soldiers in Concremo
You are hereby ordered to leave Concremo as soon as possible. We may be going to war with Concremo.

Deleted:
Subsequently, a furious General Ken Remmol ordered an EMP attack on the biggest power plant in Concremo. The resulting power surge caused a blackout in central Concremo. A second EMP strike aimed at Concremo's IT industry failed to detonate, and the satellite-warhead crashed into a nearby golf course, killing several executives.

OOC: The blackout is like the New York blackout of '03, except your power supplies have been fried. You DID piss off the Mirkanan general, who DOES care about his soldiers.

Saint Fedski

14-10-2005, 05:52

OOC: Ummm Mirkana.....you just RP'd your enemy's losses, that's a big no-no in RPs. You say you fired whatevers at his powerplant, but he says whether they actually hit. What you should do, is TG him and talk about the results you want and come to a compromise, then make the posts. Same with the storming of the embassy.

Mirkana

14-10-2005, 05:58

Oh, sorry about that. I will delete the part about EMP Satellites, but the embassy is within my reach.

The Kraven Corporation

14-10-2005, 07:12

To the Kraven Corporation High Command:

Your request is denied. Civitas Americae's fleet will stay. Any hostile acts or movement within 150 nautical miles of the fleet will be met with deadly force. Any acts of hostility towards the civilian populace on the island, or any of the other fleets who have come in support of those civilians will be met with deadly force as well. We will not repeat ourselves.

By direction of His Imperial Majesty,
John Schönborn, Grand Admiral CAN.

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"Marshal Arinze, we may have a situation near Concremo" Admiral Schönborn said over the phone.

"What is it?"

"Fleets allied to Concremo are approaching, and they ain't happy about us. Could you muster up additional some air support for us?"

"Of course. We'll put three B-71 squadrons along with support craft on constant alert above the fleet."

------

36 B-71 bombers, along with 24 EB-71 jammers and 24 F-12 fighters heading out to the fleet. ETA: 2 hours.

To: His Imperial Majesty
From: The High Command

You are in Territorial Waters and are there for under the Jurisdication of the Kraven Military, therefore you will comply to our Demands, you are in no position to make threats, This is your last Warning, You are Ordered Comply, Leave Territorial Waters and Await Permission to Re-enter. The use of Force has not been ruled out.

The High Command

The Sent telegrams point was enforced as on the Horizon the 3 Kraven battlefleets edged into veiw, 3000 ships of various classes including logistical support ships and other non combat vessls, the Horizon was darkened by the many destroyers, cruisers, pocket battleships, ASW ships, and Anti missile Vessels, The Corporation does not like having multiple nations turn up on its shores for no aparant reason, and it was not going to let them get away with it lightly.

"Admiral... We are approaching Territorial waters, Several ships have refused to stand down..."

"Continue to move us into Territorial waters, Let them know our presence"

"As you wish Admiral"

Saint Fedski

14-10-2005, 07:30

To: The High Council of the Kraven Corporation
From: Department of Foreign Affairs, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

Sirs, there are currently four passenger airliners en route to Concremo. If by chance, they are unable to land on the island, they will fly to a coastal city in Concremo (providing they recieve permission). If they are unable to land on the island and permission to land in Concremo is denied, we request permission to have them land at one of your coastal towns in order to refuel and head home.
In case it was over looked....

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 13:59

To: Kraven High Command
Civitas Americae recognizes territorial claims only out to 12 nautical miles. We are, therefore, not within the territorial waters of either yourself or Concremo. We repeat our earlier warnings to you.

By direction of His Imperial Majesty,
John Schönborn, Grand Admiral CAN.

Concremo

14-10-2005, 15:57

Saint Fedski,
There is an air feild of ample size on the island, and we have recently dispatched a team to maintain air traffic control. This team has a reasonable armed escort, and the Control Tower is not to be entered or approached under any circumstances. The barbed wire fences should provide an obvious limit, but attempt to cross these and be met with lethal force.

HIgh Council of Concremo

Nations Involved,
There are no Concremian forces in the area at all, apart from those providing their services as Air Traffic Control. We have, however, greatly intensified anti-shipping and anti-air positions on the nearest coast as a layer of security against hostilities. As long as our on-island team remains intact and no vessels or aircraft enter our territory we shall cease our involment in the expulsion of these scum.

High Council of Concremo

Civitas Americae,
Recognise our Territorial Limits of 50nm or not, stray within these and you shall have your ships sunk without hesitation. As a show of good faith we shall give you 12 hours to remove any ships from within 50nm of our coast before we take action. Steps have been taken to ensure that we can follow up on our promises.

High Council of Concremo

ooc: Mirkana, unless you can link me to a thread that shows me setting up an embassy with you, i do not have an embassy there. Besides, it would take days to clear out an embassy of ours because of the four squads of infantry who are instructed to turn any hostile scenario into a seige. However; if you accept that you have an embassy in City 17 (The Capital) and you are still fighting it out with my Soldiers in Redwater then we can continue from that for the purpose of good RP.

New Sans

14-10-2005, 16:19

Govenment Communiqué
To: The High Council of Concremo

Dear sirs,

A group of our ships have arrived and are stationed outside Concremian waters and we would like to inquire if you would have any objections to our use of these ships in relieving you of some of the civilians being placed on one of your islands.

Sincerely,
General Mĕane
The People's Republic of New Sans

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 16:25

Golencia

14-10-2005, 17:17

"Your majesty," the aide looked worried. "Yes?" came the reply. "Sire. we have recieved word the entire Greater Prussian Empire is mobilising for war. We are advised to do the same." The Kaiser nodded, "Of course, as a Burgundian I would think nothing less of it!" The Kaiser jumped from his feet and stormed through his private Chamber Doors into the Throne Room. There awaited the Admirals, Air Marshals, and Generals. He spoke to all of them in General and they listened intently. "I want the 3rd, 4th and 7th Naval Fleets to depart immediately for the area in question. We will meet up with our allies there at sea. The 3rd and 7th Marine Battalions shall immediately begin boarding 100 LS(X) Amphibious Assault Crafts. The 9th and 10th Armies shall too begin mobilising and prepare for deliver should war break out. I want the 6th Bomber wing and 10th Fighter Force fueled up and ready for combat. Is this understood?" In unison they all replied "Yes Sir." Each walked off to begin mobilising the army. All allies of Golencia had been fully notified of their presence.

SLI Sector

14-10-2005, 17:24

The Kraven Corporation

14-10-2005, 17:40

To the High Council of Concremo:
Our vessels sail where they will. Any attack upon them will be met with devestating force and retaliation by us and our allies in the Kingdom of Burgandy and Greater Prussia.

His Imperial Majesty,
Paul VII

To: His Imperial Majesty
From: The Kraven High Command

Your fleets will Not sail as they will in our territorial Waters, Your Fleets have been deemed hostile and as such shall be delt with.
You have been warned, While in territorial Waters, you will abide by Territorial Law, which Kraven and Concremo Doctrines, However you have chosen to Ignore these Doctrines. Your naval Ships present will be Borded, Captured and your Crew placed on a Military Tribunal in Kravonika. However we offer you 3 Hours to Surrender your forces.

The High Command

Rolatia

14-10-2005, 18:02

It was quite late in the night when the phone rang at the Air HQ. Captain Luke Roberts, commander of the Air Force, disgruntedly rolled over in bed and answered the phone. "Hello, Captain Roberts, command of the Rolatian Air Force speaking"
"Hi, Luke" came the voice of the Prime Minister Dr Edwards
"Sir, why do you wake me so late at night?"
"We have a situation which involves you completely - the entire operation will be based on your air force. In the land of Concremo, 26 million people have been captured by the government for religious views. We need your transports on heightened alert - we will be deploying up to four thousand soon"
"Yes, sir."
Capt. Roberts groaned. This would be more work for him, something he in no way needed when his transports were already set to soon go into the United Kingdom and his armed planes were going to have to fight the RAF and the Royal Navy

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 20:59

To: His Imperial Majesty
From: The Kraven High Command

Your fleets will Not sail as they will in our territorial Waters, Your Fleets have been deemed hostile and as such shall be delt with.
You have been warned, While in territorial Waters, you will abide by Territorial Law, which Kraven and Concremo Doctrines, However you have chosen to Ignore these Doctrines. Your naval Ships present will be Borded, Captured and your Crew placed on a Military Tribunal in Kravonika. However we offer you 3 Hours to Surrender your forces.

The High Command

To The Kraven High Command:
1. It may have escaped your notice, but we are not within your waters and so you have no legal claim for action against our vessels.
2. Concremo's ridiculous claim notwithstanding, we are not within their waters either, so you have no legal claim to action as their deputy.
3. We shall say this only once: Approach within 200 miles of our fleet or engage in any hostile acts and your fleet will be destroyed.

His Imperial Majesty,
Paul VII

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"Your Majesty, it looks like things are about to turn into a shooting war near Concremo."

"Damn. Looks like those idiots are running blindly ahead at full tilt still. Very well, how are the OWPs and ABM batteries? And has Admiral Olson finished with his plan that he spoke of earlier?"

"All report full readiness sir. Admiral Olson says that the plan has been carried out, and his subs have finished reloading with torpedos."

"Very well, signal Admiral Olson that there are no restrictions on his weapon usage, within the ROE already provided. And tell Marshal Arinze and Grand Admiral Schönborn to send reinforcements to Admiral Olson. I have the feeling he'll need them."

----

Five squadrons (60 aircraft) of B-71s and three (36 aircraft) each of EB-71s, and F-12s to increase Air Force bomber patrol over Civitas Americaen fleet. ETA: 4 hours.

2 Joan de Arc BBGN SAGs and 4 Emperor-Saint CBGs heading to reinforce current fleet. ETA: 1 week

The Kraven Corporation

14-10-2005, 21:27

The Kraven Battlefleet approached, the Two Nimitz Class Pocket battle ships, opened fire of Americae's fleet, the massive 670mm ETC cannons with EM rifiling fired specialist shells,these shells had a depleted uranium casing armed with a tungsten steel penetrator tip, packed with C12 high explosives, during flight the shell would deploy a series of 10mm guidance fins that would add greater accuracy to the shell, and if it missed the target would act as proximity senors, effectivly creating anti shipping mines... but if the shell was on target, the tungsten steel penetrator tip would force the shell into the bowls of the ship, the C12 high explosives would be either on a timed detonator activated by the impact on the Tungsten steel tip or Activated by the touch of the Proximity dectors, C12, designed to level buildings or city blocks in enough quantities would tear the ship apart from the inside...

The two nimitz class's sirens echoed out across the stillness of the ocean, the Sirens were warning of the impending barrage that was about to begin, the Massive main guns of the Fleet were turning to face the Americae's fleet, there were 3 main guns on the Front of the Battleship and two to the rear, each had 4 cannons and were preparing to fire, auto loaders mounted shells into the breaches as Capitol Police troopers altered the trajectory of the weapons, using lazer guided Optical mags...

With a massive Thump the first salvo was fired from both ships, the shells went screaming towards their targets, the Biggest ships and the highest threat in the Americaes fleet, probably their SD's or large battleships...

In a symphony of destruction the rest of the fleet opened up, sending shells tearing through the air towards the targets, 280mm ETC, 20mm cannons, 12inch cannons, various calibers, 175mm cannons, all sorts of weaponry was fired in the Direction of the Americae's fleet...

Tracking ships monitored the enemy ships movments, ensuring that all Kraven ships were given the necessary details of enemy shipping where abouts, Sonar and Radar monitoring as well the radio frequencys, picking out transmissions, not able to intercept radio transmissions but able to pinpoint where they were comming from, by the amount of Long Wave and Medium wave radiation that was emminating from the ships, tihs allowed the Tracking ships to pinpoint Command vessels...

The Torment classes were sat in the depths of the sea, their Plasma fields were up, ensuring that spotting these craft would be neigh on impossible unless the radio operators knew what they were looking for... there orders were to engage the enemy fleet once radio silence was broken....

The Americae's would pay for not following Kraven and Concremo Doctrines and blatantly ignoring the Wishes of these Two Nations....

Rolatia

14-10-2005, 21:34

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 21:35

The Kraven Corporation

14-10-2005, 21:41

OOC: Mind explaining how you apparently got within visual range despite air recon, radar, sonar, and visual recon? Or is "lazer guided Optical mags" just a nice buzzword? And if you aren't within visual range, just how far away are you? Counterbattery radar will locate you the second you fire, so there's no technological barrier to locating you. Bit necessary for the RP after all.

The Fleet has been in visual range for a while now, the fleet was on the horizon and could be seen from where your fleet has sat, Lazer Guided Optical mags, is a targeting system used throughout the Corporation, it utilises various degrees of magnification, lazer target designators, Thermal, Low Light, Night Vision, Flare Comp, Counter battery radar can locate me, I dont care, you'd be pretty blind to miss the Fleet that is now bearing down on you and has been from my previous posts

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 21:43

Saint Fedski

14-10-2005, 21:45

Four A380 Airbuses land on the island and begin loading refugees from the nearby camp. Two chinooks have landed with humanitarian aid and have begun loading refugees for their fourth trip back to the carriers. Landing craft are currently making their way back to the island to pick up more refugees. We have so far rescued close to 75,000 refugees (including on freighters docked in the small harbour).

To: Dr. J Edwards, President of Rolatia
From: Vice Admiral William A. Bridges, Commander Second Naval Task Force, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

Sir,
It is our duty to inform you that hostilities have begun in Concremian territorial waters. In order to make it safer for us peaceful nation, it is requested that you wait your turn when attempting to rescue the refugees. Tomorrow, we will allow you to send in your fleet to resume rescue operations. It is proposed that we alternate days when rescuing the refugees in order to decrease congestion and therefore increase safety and efficiency.

V. Adm. W. A. Bridges

The Kraven Corporation

14-10-2005, 21:45

Dr Edwards watched the video with intent. Speaking alound to himself, he said "So, The Kraven Corportation is causing major problems for countries near to Concremo? This could cause trouble for our transports - what we do not want is a destruction of our 'fleet'...". He started composing a letter:
TO: The Kraven Corporation
Greetings,
We would like to request that our fleet of planes is granted permission to fly into Concremo to take captured prisoners to live in Rolatia and therefore take them off their hands, as stated by Concremo themselves. We are asking to go through the Concremian airspace and into Concremo itselves. Our fleet is up to 4000 unarmed transport planes.
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia

To: Dr J Edwards
From: The High Command

Your planes have permission to Enter the air space, however your planes are to stick to the Eastern shores of Kravonika for about 15 miles, you are then to alter your course by 45 degrees and head out to sea, then continue your previous course away from Northern Cydonia, any deviation from this course will result in immeadiate Termination of the offending air craft

The High Command

The Kraven Corporation

14-10-2005, 21:48

I call God-moding. It was specifically stated that getting within a certain distance of my fleet would entail a military response. Unless you specifically post that you crossed that boundary, then it must be assumed that you didn't in fact get within that distance.

Then respond with your military, we Crossed the boundry, and began to engage your fleets, it is not my responsibilty to post the actions of your fleets, because that would also be called "God-Modding"

Oh and unless there is a magical marker, around your fleet the Corporation would not care about any "Boundries" and would not state that it had crossed anything, being that the Corporation is disregarding your "Boundries" As you have disregarded The Doctrines of the Corporation.

Cherry Ridge

14-10-2005, 21:50

"Admiral!" yelled an junior officer, "The Kraven Corp has fired on Civitas!"

"Damn it!" exploded the Admiral, "You know our orders, screw diplomacy when fired on. That includes allies."

"Aye Sir."

"Send orders to all ships, fire at Will."

The officer ran to the secure radio, and sent out orders to all ships-
Fire at will, I repeat, Fire at will!"
While the XO sounded the alarm. It went off, with the announcement-
[i]General Quarters, General Quarters, all hands man your battle stations. This happened on all ships in the Conremian area, and the ships began to approach the Civitan ships.

ooc-
Three carrier battle groups are on location-

3 Carriers
6 guided missle cruisers
9 guided missle destroyers
3 frigates
6 attack submarines
3 Supply Ships

1 Hospital Ship

New Sans

14-10-2005, 21:51

Goverment Communiqué
To: The Kraven High Command

Dear Sirs,

Our fleet has arrived at international waters outside of Concremo , and are at the moment holding position. They are the

NSS Battalion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke_class_destroyer)
NSS Cataclysm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz_class_aircraft_carrier)
NSS Grasp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticonderoga_class_cruiser)
NSS Gauntlet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticonderoga_class_cruiser)
NSS Manta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke_class_destroyer)
NSS Striker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke_class_destroyer)
NSS Reload (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_combat_support_ship)
Two tankers, and 4 cargo ships.

As of this moment we are readying our cargo ships and several contingants of marines to head towards the island, secure an LZ, and begin the transport of these "persons". The rest of the ships will be staying in international waters only to engage if they are fired upon first. Before we start this however since hostilities seem to be flaring we wish to know if it is alright to begin this movement.

Sincerely,
General Mĕane
The People's Republic of New Sans

Pschycotic Pschycos

14-10-2005, 21:52

IT was late evening in the Headquarters of the Imperial Court's Navy based in Neo-Nagasaki. Grande Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto III was sitting in his office reviewing notes on the latest developments in the Concremian Conflict. Several allied nations, a whole region in fact, were now at odds with aggressors. The nation had already sent out a warning to the oppossing force, and a new fax in his machine put the nation one step closer to attacking.

TO: Admiral Yamamoto
RE: Concremian Conflict

Admiral, you are to dispatch 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, and 13th Fleets of the
Imperial Courts to the area surrounding allied positions. The Fleets' orders
are to act in defense of allied ships. ANy assault on an allied vessel can and
shall be responded to with force.

Signed, Interim-Shogun Heero Yuy.

That settled it. Slowly and deliberatly, the admiral picked up his phone and dailed the numbers for the commanding officers of each fleet, relaying the orders and giving permission to leave dock. All fleets were kept on a constant standby alert, so mobilization could take less time. By sunrise the next morning, the vessels would have left port and be well under way.
=============================================
Message relay to Cherry Ridge Forces, Secret IC:

Commanding officer of the Ridgeian Forces, this is Admiral Gene
Starwin of the Imperial Court's Navy of Psi-Pso. We are en route to provide
support. Please indicate where we should position ourselves to aid in defense
and your current situation in the area.

The Kraven Corporation

14-10-2005, 21:56

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 22:03

Then respond with your military, we Crossed the boundry, and began to engage your fleets, it is not my responsibilty to post the actions of your fleets, because that would also be called "God-Modding"

Oh and unless there is a magical marker, around your fleet the Corporation would not care about any "Boundries" and would not state that it had crossed anything, being that the Corporation is disregarding your "Boundries" As you have disregarded The Doctrines of the Corporation.

Here's the thing: I repeatedly state "If you get this close, we will shoot you." Therefore, if your ships are going to get within that distance, you have to RP "Hey, Civitas just shot at us!" Since you did not, you clearly are not within visual range. Elementary logic.

New Sans

14-10-2005, 22:09

International Waters

"Captian we have just recived the go ahead for operation drydock sir."

"Good it's about time we could get moving instead of sitting around here. Radio the transports and tell them to begin advancing on the island. They are to secure an LZ for themselves and begin to get as many people as they can off the island."

"Understood sir."

Within moments the transports began their movement towards the island. Within their bowls the 4 marine groups were being prepped for action. All 500 of them (125 to a transport, logistics included) would land first and start construction of a more suitable LZ for any other ship set to arrive there with the equipment they had on the transports.

New Sans

14-10-2005, 22:11

Here's the thing: I repeatedly state "If you get this close, we will shoot you." Therefore, if your ships are going to get within that distance, you have to RP "Hey, Civitas just shot at us!" Since you did not, you clearly are not within visual range. Elementary logic.

OOC: Well Kraven was technically there before you more or less meaning you're moving close to him, not the other way around.

Cherry Ridge

14-10-2005, 22:12

Secret IC
We ask that you simply meet up with the Ridgian ships. The situation is: Kraven Corp has commenced attacking Ciivta Americaen's ships.
-Admiral William Cornwallis

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 22:13

OOC: Well Kraven was technically there before you more or less meaning you're moving close to him, not the other way around.

Not unless his posts magically jumped before mine.

The Kraven Corporation

14-10-2005, 22:20

Here's the thing: I repeatedly state "If you get this close, we will shoot you." Therefore, if your ships are going to get within that distance, you have to RP "Hey, Civitas just shot at us!" Since you did not, you clearly are not within visual range. Elementary logic.

No, I am not going to say that, when you have not Rp'ed the firing of the ships at me, I am not going to respond to something you havn't done, you only stated you would, not that you have, it is not my responsibility to RP your ships.

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 22:23

No, I am not going to say that, when you have not Rp'ed the firing of the ships at me, I am not going to respond to something you havn't done, you only stated you would, not that you have, it is not my responsibility to RP your ships.

How exactly am I supposed to know that you've crossed the boundry when you never said that you did so? I am not a telepath, if you do things, you must mention them. And since you did not mention doing so, you are, by default, not within that boundry line.

Concremo

14-10-2005, 22:29

How exactly am I supposed to know that you've crossed the boundry when you never said that you did so? I am not a telepath, if you do things, you must mention them. And since you did not mention doing so, you are, by default, not within that boundry line.

ooc: *sigh* Can we just retaliate already and end the pages of ooc that is being built up here? Is it too much to accept that KC rolled up and started shooting although you were the one trying to provoke us? Anyway, he can be as in or as out of your imaginary boundary as he wants; The Corporation does not recognise your imposed limits.

The Kraven Corporation

14-10-2005, 22:33

How exactly am I supposed to know that you've crossed the boundry when you never said that you did so? I am not a telepath, if you do things, you must mention them. And since you did not mention doing so, you are, by default, not within that boundry line.

Ok, look at it like this, 670mm ETC cannons with EM rifling are Capable of firing shells upto and including 150nm, infact upto ranges of 200nm with indirect fire so, I don't actualy need to cross the border at all to engage you, And can be well within visual range, using the advanced optics and tracking ships of the fleet. Now, we are well off topic and are detrementing the fun of the roll play for others, now shall we get on with it?

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 22:33

OOC: The problem is that he's saying that he's blasting away within visual range despite the fact that he never once stated his fleet doing so. Regardless of whether or not he recognizes my limit, my stated intent to shoot anything that crossed it is a clear trigger that must be RPed for him to get that close. All he had to do is "Admiral blah blah said "hah, we've crossed Civitas' boundary, as if it meant anything."

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 22:35

Ok, look at it like this, 670mm ETC cannons with EM rifling are Capable of firing shells upto and including 150nm, infact upto ranges of 200nm with indirect fire so, I don't actualy need to cross the border at all to engage you, And can be well within visual range, using the advanced optics and tracking ships of the fleet. Now, we are well off topic and are detrementing the fun of the roll play for others, now shall we get on with it?

Retaliation will be a in a few minutes, but you really need to make sure that you state things clearer. And FYI, visual range means that it can be seen with the naked eye, which cannot be done over the horizon.

Pschycotic Pschycos

14-10-2005, 22:42

Secret IC
We ask that you simply meet up with the Ridgian ships. The situation is: Kraven Corp has commenced attacking Ciivta Americaen's ships.
-Admiral William Cornwallis
SECRET IC:
Aye, ETA 1day. We will be in launch position for fighter squadrons in
12 hours.

Admiral Starwin sent out a notification to all ships of the taskforce. All ships pulled up their speed to flank to give the most speed possible, an average of 30 knots throughout the force. Fighter/bomber crews began preping for sorties, and missile battery crews began checking their stations. All crews were ordered up to Level 2 Battlestations and they prepared for a fight.

New Sans

14-10-2005, 22:42

Secret IC
We ask that you simply meet up with the Ridgian ships. The situation is: Kraven Corp has commenced attacking Ciivta Americaen's ships.
-Admiral William Cornwallis

OCC: Who is this directed to?

Pschycotic Pschycos

14-10-2005, 22:44

OOC: That would be me.

Saint Fedski

14-10-2005, 23:05

Coded message from the fleet flagship, HES Erie, to all vessels in the task force.
All vessels to alert status 3, prepare for comabt this is not a drill. Repeat, this is not a drill.

From: Vice Admiral Bridges
To: Cpt. Paterson, R. Adm. Dionne, R. Adm. Foxworthy
All aircraft crew are to be on standbay. All aircraft are to be ready to launch as soon as possible. Prepare to engage the enemy. Dionne, preapre send two fighters to do a warning flight over the ships of New Sans. Over

Message to New Sans

Sir, please stand down your aircraft. We do not wish to engage in combat with anyone. We arrived at the island first and are therefore in the right to take first pick of rescuing refugees. We are open to working out a peaceful solution.

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 23:06

"SIR! The Kravian fleet is firing!"

The shout by the young ensign started Admiral Olson.

"All ships, evasive manuevers! Get the reserve fighters airborne immediately! How long do we have?"

"Ballistic weapons sir, three and a half minutes till the first arrive. We have a fix on their origin, sharing the data with the rest of the fleet."

"Very well. Helm, make sure that you avoid those shells. Weapons, signal the fleet: Time on target TSAM-N launch with follow-up strike by the Super Tomcats. Comm, raise the bombers and tell them that they are weapons free."

Damn, just another hour and a half and we'd have quadrupled our bomber support. No use crying over spilt milk however.

"Navigation, have the fleet proceed towards the Ridgian fleet as best it can."

Across the fleet, VLS tubes opened as 235 TSAM-Ns launched and hoomed in on the Kraven fleet, hugging the water. Helicopters lifted off of the waiting destroyers, frigates, and amphibious assault carriers carrying squackers. Designed to produce the same image to enemy electronics as the main fleet vessels, they would draw many of the enemy projecticles to themselves. High above, the EB-71s cut in their jamming, blocking all enemy radar and radio until it could be burned through, a lengthy process.

------

"Alright boys, the squids are in need of some help. Let's go in and show these Kraven bastards why you don't mess with Civitas" Major Sheen, commander of the Air Force detachment above the fleet ordered.

Of course, going in was a rather relative term. At Mach 3.3 and 87,000 feet, the B-71s weren't very much in need of a close approach to their enemy. Any weapon would be a stand-off weapon when dropped from such a speed and altitude.

108 RAM-coated B-23 100-kiloton nuclear devices dropped towards the heavy ships of the Kraven fleet. Their radar absorbing covering made the bombs nearly undetectable, and hence nearly uninterceptable, until shortly before initiation. As fate would have it, they would initiate a few seconds before the enemy's first salvo reached the Civitas fleet.

----

"Your Majesty, it's begun."

Imitora

14-10-2005, 23:07

OOC: THis is why I stay away from II...90% of hte people here suck at RP.

IC:

THe Imitoran Hunter/Killer and attack satalites floating in a geosynchronous orbit over Concremo began moving into action. An ally of Concremo, some other random pissant nation who thought they were of any importance had fired on an ally of Imitora, and it was the standard retalitory strike. Imitora would strike an ally.

The satalites were nothing special, mostly armed with standard heat and light based lasers for detonating warheads on incoming NBC weapons, or use against other satalites in the vacume of space. However, a good number were large, and armed with a space based varient of a cruise missle. Using a GPS based targeting system, with spacial navigation and relay target satalite info, they oepned fire, each sending out ten of the modified missles towards Concremo.

Each satalite, 15 in all, launched ten missles. Each missle was topped with a medium explosive war head, designed to take out smaller buildings, and ground and naval based targets. AS the 150 missles tumbeld through space, the ablative coating allowed an atmospheric entrance. AS tehy fell, gravity pulling them faster and faster, their motors ignited, and began falling at an increased pace. Anti missle targeting systems would have difficulty at best hitting them, as they followed a non linear path, swooping in on their targets. In true Imitoran tradition, a grand total of 25 were aimed at military targets. The other 125 missles were targeting schools, hospitals, and neighborhoods.

Over Imitora, in the depths of space, hunter killer satalites quickly moved into a defenseive posture, firing both light explosive, guided rockets and heat and light based lasers that would excell in the oxygen free enviroment of space to attack any incomming satalites.

OOC2: First, any claims at ignoring me cuz its future tech is a pretty bitch move considering everything I just used is marginally modified current tech that is by far more feasable than an effective ETC/Gauss/Rail weapon. Also, I'm going to my girlfriends house for the weekend, and wont be back till wensday, so if I dont respond, deal with it. And yes, I have zero problem targeting civilians and kids. And finally, no moves were made to disarm or take out any of my satalites that I had in the area as per my first or second post, so again, deal with it. Oh, and one last thing, if some April '05 nation has 3000 ships, then expect my fleet to be showing up with somewhere around 50,000...

Saint Fedski

14-10-2005, 23:14

OOC: I motion to have Imitora on ignore. He's just taking it too far now. Secondly, his targets haven't even been named? Who is he shooting at?

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 23:17

OOC: He's got five billion people and a frightening economy. He can certainly afford what he's stated to have, and with the possible exception of heat-based lasers, all of that is indeed MT (and especially if 670mm railguns qualify as MT). And I thought it was obvious that he was going after Kraven.

Pschycotic Pschycos

14-10-2005, 23:17

Admiral Starwin was overseeing the situation on monitors on the bridge, watching it unfurl. As the ballistics closed in to allied vessels, he asked the range.
"Sir, range is 450 miles approxamatly. We're too far for fighters." one of the radar operators said.
"Maybe for fighters, but not for missiles. Notify 9th fleet, I want them to put out some weaponry for allied forces."
"Aye, Sir."
=====================================
9th Submerged Fleet of the Imperial Court.....

"Skipper, orders in from the surface, we need to launch missiles." the radio operator said. He was on one of the 10 boomers of the 9th Submerged Fleet. "Admiral Starwin wants two from each."
"Thank you, Johnson." the skipper replied. He pulled down on the alarm lever, and the klaxon and spinning red lights went off. "All hands, general quarters, all hands, general quarters!" Next, he began sending off orders, "flood tubes one and two, prepare to launch." A loud hissing began to be heard as the two missile tubes flooded. ONce flooded, the skipper ordered them to launch. 9th Submerged launched 20 Dstruction MkII class conventional SLBMs toward the enemy, each with 20 warheads, which would act as a cluster artillery fire.

The Macabees

14-10-2005, 23:19

[OOC: There goes a religious role play...ruined... Concremo, I'll start my thing once all this other crap clears out...Imitora, if you dislike I.I. so much, why don't you just go back to NS? I mean, we don't need you talking bad about us, and yet you hypocritically continue to post.]

The Kraven Corporation

14-10-2005, 23:21

OOC: Ok, Sorry Concremo, but i am officialy stepping out of this thread, its just getting silly now, Nuclear weapons, are not a good Rp'ing style and in short is a lame way of removing my Navy, the implications it would cause upon your nation would result in a thermonuclear war between our two nations.

Secondly, An April '05 nation does have 3000 ships in 3 battlefleets and, as stated before i have a High Military budget and not all the ships are combat ships... deal with it, if anyone had taken even a few moments to ask about the Corporation and how it is run, then you would understand. Ask Concremo he has seen the Corporation since its development, and has been there every step of the way, as has Mini Miehm
I apologise to all Rp'ers in this thread for the petty bickering and Arguing that has spoilt this potentialy excellent RP.

James/The High Command

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 23:30

Saint Fedski

14-10-2005, 23:34

OOC: I too am thinking of withdrawing. I don't want anything to do with 500 thousand ships and 25 satelites firing 15 missles so precislely. Especially from someone who hasn't developed their role at all, I mean the rest of us have posted almost hourly and developed our roles and characters and actions, he/she has just posted their fighting stance.

Cherry Ridge

14-10-2005, 23:36

King John Antonette heard that the Civitas ships had engaged- and he was furious.
"I ordered troops to stand down! That includes Civitas. I want all Burgundians to disengage- that includes our boys."

"Yes your Majesty" said an aide, and quickly departed.

Message to all Burgundians
Disengage at once. Get out of what the Concremians consider their water. The arcchancellor said settle it diplomaticly, and that is what we will do. STAND DOWN!
King John Antonette,King of Burgundy

Civitas Americae

14-10-2005, 23:40

To Cherry Ridge:

We seem to have not received your stand-down message. We will of course recheck our communications log.

Unfortunately, we cannot fully comply at this time, being just a bit busy at the moment. As soon as we can, we will however.

His Imperial Majesty,
Paul VII

Concremo

14-10-2005, 23:45

-snip-

ooc: Ok, WTF!? I keep out of this war on my doorstep to get bombed into next week? Whatever. And by me ignoring your first post, it didnt happen.

IC:

"Sir, i'm picking up 106 satelite-launched missiles... make that 150, they're aimed all over the place!" Shouted a Technician, hunched over a computer screen.

"Protocol 326, people! I want civilians in their nearest Bunker ASAP and the CG fully mobilised for search and rescue. Pull the Overwatch out of orbit and have it take out as many of their satelites as possible. EMP Weapons only, we dont want those tings raining down on us. I want every SAM and ASAT platform targetting those missiles, and all docked AA ships following suit. Same goes for our AA vehicles. Have the Railways fully deploy." Responded the Commander.

All over the Nation defensive HardPoints aimed for the skies, utilizing the most advanced tracking systems Concremo had to offer. All four Naval Legions were kept docked around the coast, and would ensure that the Docks remained intact. Turrets stationed on the city walls came to life, their purpose to keep watch rather than to shoot down.

A mile within the city limits, an eight-carriage train is on a circular track and is constantly moving. On these trains are artillery, SAM cells, SSM batteries and masses of more conventional anti-aircraft weaponry. All were focussed towards the task of finding and destroying the incoming missiles.

High above earth the CMS Overwatch angled itself towards the nearest enemy satelite, and fired an EMP missile big enough to black out a city. It proceded to fire on the others in turn, before repeating the cycle until its ammunition was depleted. Carrying 42 EMP missiles, 21 Nuclear missiles and numerous railguns the Overwatch was the Concremian protector from above.

"How many did we get?" Asked the Commissar.

"We managed to hit 96 of them, Sir, but some of those we failed to fully destroy. I estimate we prevented 72 of them from causing damage, the rest mostly hit civilian areas."

"What about military casualties?"

"Three bases took critical hits, but reports are still sketchy."

Pschycotic Pschycos

14-10-2005, 23:57

Civitas Americae

15-10-2005, 00:22

OOC: Satellites I can deal with, especially with that precision because I have the hardware to take them down. However, despite being sided with you, Civitas Americae, I think that nuclear attacks, even against someone with that many ships (I agree, way too many) is not very classy or very good etiqutte. I'm suggessting you pull that, no one likes a nuclear war, even in NS.

The thing is that there's no real trouble with a tactical nuclear war. The only problems arise with "Oh, you killed one of my ships, so I'm going to nuke your cities!" which is why I have an ABM defense. The reason that so much damage was done to Kraven was because, quite frankly, he was idiotic in setting up his battle, and completely ignored my bombers (which, admittedly, I selected because they are uninterceptable with MT). Nukes are not some boogyman. If someone uses nukes, adjust your tactics in order to defend (ie, disperse your units and have a heavier AA defense). You might lose heavily to begin with, but if you put yourself in a Midway situation and lose, it's your own fault, whether conventional or nuclear weapons are used.

As it is, I used nuclear weapons because they're simple and everyone understands them. I could have simply used rockets that accelerated to such a speed that their impact was the equivalent of dropping a tac nuke. In the interests of simplicity, I decided not to.

Pschycotic Pschycos

15-10-2005, 00:29

OOC: Still...it's not looked upon as very good RPing. You made your point, and it's good, but still, NSers don't like that anymore than anyone in real life does.

Civitas Americae

15-10-2005, 00:31

OOC: Still...it's not looked upon as very good RPing. You made your point, and it's good, but still, NSers don't like that anymore than anyone in real life does.

670mm railguns are good RP and a tac nuke isn't?

And you're not supposed to like what the enemy does anyhow :p

Civitas Americae

15-10-2005, 00:36

OOC: To add onto that actually, how is it not good RP other than just a general phobia of nuclear weapons?

Pschycotic Pschycos

15-10-2005, 00:42

Civitas Americae

15-10-2005, 00:47

OOC: Nukes just aren't appreciated because people actually do factor in radiation and such, and the fact that they really do have such a large blast. Everyone really is affraid of a nuclear holocaust, so why play it? Raliguns are fine cause we're about to have them, and those are just more able to be destroyed and such.

OOC: Which means that you should RP the radiation and such. As for railguns, we are about 10 years or so from actually having small ones on the DD(X). Monster sized ones are rather far off.

And what do you mean "just more able to be destroyed"?

The Macabees

15-10-2005, 00:52

The fact remains that most people dislike nuclear warfare, simply because it implies 'utter destruction' wether or not that's what you're really going for. Nuclear warfare is fine, for example, in my A Passion Play thread it's going to turn into a nuclear war soon enough [although, true, we swapped nuclear bombs for neutron bombs]. But, the idea is that a nuclear war should be done only after contact between both parties had been established, and it was agreed to. If you don't do that it's just going to turn into a piece of crap OOC fest and ignorefest, sorta like what this turned into.

Not only that, but too insult a roleplaying group by saying 'they suck and that's why I don't come here anymore' is just plain stupid, and Imitora should have just left the thread instead of filling it with more of his crap, which sucked ten times worse than the rest of the roleplay, simply because Kraven has a bunch of shipping. Would it not have been a bit better role playing etiquette had he just gone with the flow, instead of just nuking the hell out of everything from space?

I mean, jesus christ.

Civitas Americae

15-10-2005, 01:01

The fact remains that most people dislike nuclear warfare, simply because it implies 'utter destruction' wether or not that's what you're really going for. Nuclear warfare is fine, for example, in my A Passion Play thread it's going to turn into a nuclear war soon enough [although, true, we swapped nuclear bombs for neutron bombs]. But, the idea is that a nuclear war should be done only after contact between both parties had been established, and it was agreed to. If you don't do that it's just going to turn into a piece of crap OOC fest and ignorefest, sorta like what this turned into.

So the problem is one of "OMG, that does a lot of damage!"? I take it that a Hibex missile, modified to be dropped from a plane and hit a surface target, would be a similarly bad idea simply because the sheer kinetic impact will do a ton of damage?

The Macabees

15-10-2005, 01:09

So the problem is one of "OMG, that does a lot of damage!"? I take it that a Hibex missile, modified to be dropped from a plane and hit a surface target, would be a similarly bad idea simply because the sheer kinetic impact will do a ton of damage?

Difference is, that will do damage to one ship, while a nuclear explosion has the potential to destroy a multitude of ships, and if not that, incinirate the crews.

Civitas Americae

15-10-2005, 01:17

OOC: Just a muse on the Kraven fight. First off, I don't think he actually cared about what I had. I don't see any other reason why he'd have ignored the bombers or thought that I'd have SD's when I had already noted that I had sent in battleships and carrers. Second, even with the loss of just over a hundred of his top ships, that battle was entirely winnable for him. He'd take a few individual losses from the TSAMs and Super Tomcats (and submarine actions), but with concentrated AAW it should have been no more than a few dozen (which is not a mission kill in a fleet of three thousand unless there is a need for an extremely high support:combat vessel ratio). Then he could run down and destroy the rest of my fleet with his lighter units (not being slowed by the hulks of his SDs). Though its likely that most of his remaining combat ships would be destroyed by the oncoming B-71 reinforcements (and hence be mission killed), it would have won the battle because it would have accomplished its objective (make me move or destroy me) and I wouldn't have (stay there and survive).

Civitas Americae

15-10-2005, 01:18

Difference is, that will do damage to one ship, while a nuclear explosion has the potential to destroy a multitude of ships, and if not that, incinirate the crews.

Which is why you disperse the ships. When I launched that attack, though I left the RP of his losses up to him, I didn't expect more than a single ship destroyed per successful initiation.

New Sans

15-10-2005, 03:11

Message to New Sans

Sir, please stand down your aircraft. We do not wish to engage in combat with anyone. We arrived at the island first and are therefore in the right to take first pick of rescuing refugees. We are open to working out a peaceful solution.

Government Communiqué

Dear Sirs,

First we have no aircraft operating in that area as of this moment so you probably have to ask someone else to stop them from moving. Also we are somewhat disturbed that you are implying there is a need for first picks in rescuing these people. It doesn't matter who has first pick or not, it matters that they get the hell off that island.

Sincerely,
General Mĕane
The People's Republic of New Sans

Off the shore of the small island

The first of the transport ships had begun to unload it's cargo. Marines were busy on the beach, setting up equipment and distributing food and clean water as best they could. Soon the other ships would be assisting, and start to load up civilians for transport back to The People's Republic of New Sans.

Rolatia

15-10-2005, 09:58

To: Dr. J Edwards, President of Rolatia
From: Vice Admiral William A. Bridges, Commander Second Naval Task Force, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

Sir,
It is our duty to inform you that hostilities have begun in Concremian territorial waters. In order to make it safer for us peaceful nation, it is requested that you wait your turn when attempting to rescue the refugees. Tomorrow, we will allow you to send in your fleet to resume rescue operations. It is proposed that we alternate days when rescuing the refugees in order to decrease congestion and therefore increase safety and efficiency.

V. Adm. W. A. Bridges

To: Dr J Edwards
From: The High Command

Your planes have permission to Enter the air space, however your planes are to stick to the Eastern shores of Kravonika for about 15 miles, you are then to alter your course by 45 degrees and head out to sea, then continue your previous course away from Northern Cydonia, any deviation from this course will result in immeadiate Termination of the offending air craft

The High Command

As usual, Dr Edwards examined the messages carefully, but slightly peculiarly Captain Roberts was with him, for analysis and advice of what to do. After about a minute, Dr Edwards turned around and said "So, what's our best course of action?"
The reply came after a few seconds "Well, sir, by the looks of our analysis The Kraven Corporation are not going to be causing trouble, provided we stick to their course"
"And Saint Fedski?"
"Not really a problem. Their air force over there is tiny. Plus, we've equipped special equipment to the Skyhawks to let them land on less than perfect territory - they can keep the airports if they need to"
"OK, let's move out 4000 Skyhawks. Convey to them they MUST follow the course set by Kraven Corp. I'll relay a message to Vice Admiral William A. Bridges.
TO: Vice Admiral William A. Bridges, Commander Second Naval Task Force, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski
FROM: Dr J Edwards, Prime Minister of Rolatia
Greetings,
Our intelligence tells us you have extremely small amounts of air forces in Concremo rescuing refugees. We shall therefore send our transports in, due to the fact that the alternate-days idea would mean a very large lack of efficiency on the days when you enter their airspace. We hope you can co-operate with us. Oh, and we are quite offended by your use of the word 'President'. I am the Prime Minister, NOT President - we don't have a president.
Dr J Edwards
Prime Ministerof Rolatia
OOC: I'm not president! We don't have a president :rolleyes:. OK guys, calm down. We're going to have to make some agreements with each other, mostly to restrict the amount of incredibly strong weapons - right now this has quickly become a very bad roleplay

Mirkana

15-10-2005, 19:41

Mirkanan citizens arrive home.

Today, the last Mirkanan citizens who were in Concremo arrived home. Thankfully, all were able to avoid the recent attacks on Concremo.

General Remmol vowed to attack Concremo, saying "This should teach them to NEVER mess with Mirkanan citizens."

******
From: General Ken Remmol, CoC of Mirkana
To: All nations at war with Concremo

Mirkana possesses orbital EMP warheads that can hit Concremo. If there are any EMP vulnerable targets you would like destroyed, please contact us.
****

Immediately afterwards, a Mirkanan EMP satellite entered the atmosphere, aimed at Concremo's largest power plant.

Concremo

15-10-2005, 19:59

"Commander, we have an enemy satelite in the area!"

"Shoot it down, maximum force!"

"Understood."

Unwilling to risk a repeat of earlier missile strikes, action was taken within minutes of the initial order. ASAT platforms fired three waves of missiles, some guided and aimed for the satelite and some dumb; aimed for the general area to compensate for evasive manouvres.

In orbit the CMS Overwatch turned towards the Mirkanian satelite, and unloaded DU slugs into it via the nine railguns. On the surface entire hillsides opened to reveal hidden missile silos, and klaxons sounded as the blast doors slid open.

Extensive WMD programs had Concremo considerably well armed, with enough in stockpile to lay waste to the entire region. On the outskirts of cities unmarked trucks began to unfold as they were suddenly swarmed by soldiers. Mobile ICBM Platforms were revealed, and the Railways deployed their own WMDs.

The Nation of Mirkana,
It appears that a Satelite of yours above our Nation was containing several large missiles, and we have interpreted this as wort-case-scenario. Though we are currently dealing with this orbital annoyance, any attempts to use potential WMDs against us again will result in Nuclear retaliation directed at your capital and other major cities. We would like to keep WMDs out of this, but you push our hand then we push the button.

The High Council of Concremo

Cherry Ridge

15-10-2005, 21:20

Message to Civitas Americae
Stand down at once! We will go the diplomatic route.
Kingdom of Burgundy- Office of the King

Civitas Americae

15-10-2005, 21:44

Message to Civitas Americae
Stand down at once! We will go the diplomatic route.
Kingdom of Burgundy- Office of the King

We've stood down.

His Imperial Majesty,
Paul VII

Mirkana

16-10-2005, 02:19

New Sans

16-10-2005, 03:05

Operation Drydock, Hour: 10

Preperations had been going under way just under 8 hours, and the marines stationed on the island had been doing the best job they could with what little materials they could for such a huge amount of people waiting for evacuation. More ships transport ships were underway inorder to help with the rescue mission. It would at least be a five days before the first few would be able to leave the island bound for The People's Republic of New Sans.

Concremo

16-10-2005, 09:58

At first, it appeared that the Concremian response would be in vain. Rather than engaging in evasive maneuvers, the Mirkanan satellite launched itself into the atmosphere. The satellite had no missiles on board, rather, it contained a single EMP warhead.

But Concremo was lucky. A guided ASAT missile destroyed the Mirkanan satellite in the upper atmosphere.

They were very lucky. 30 seconds later, and the satellite would have detonated.

*****
To: The Nation of Concremo
From: General Ken Remmol
Your threat to launch nuclear weapons threatens to escalate the conflict beyond what it needs to be. Mirkana lacks strategic nuclear weapons. All our satellite-warheads are EMP-only.
Oh, and don't bother nuking our capital. Mount Stronghold can take a direct hit and survive.
*****

The Nation of Mirkana,
We do not differenciate between missiles when they are hovering over our Nation and preparing to launch. Our promise stands, any further threats to our Nation will result in immediate Strategic Nuclear Retaliation.
But can your 'Mount Stronghold' survive a MIRV strike; made up of multiple 200mt+ Thermonuclear Weapons?

High Council of Concremo

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