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Between the Three Black Eagles, Russia, Prussia and Austria lies the ancient land of the Poles. Almost as old is their beautiful capital city of Warsaw, home of almost million people. The population of the Kindom stands around 20 million people.
Poland isn't economically weak, but could be much stronger under better rule and after some modernization and reforms. The thing that prevented this from happening was the King, Stanislaw Poniatowski, a Russian puppet and a weak man.

However, the winds of change are blowing. The king has been killed in one of the most magnificent coup d'etats the world has seen. The bloodshed was kept in minimum as young and extremely popular young nobleman and a General of The South Army led five of his elite cavalry regiments from Krakow to the capital. They were to take part in the great parade, but instead they stromed the palace ust after arriving. As even the Palace Guard wasn't motivated to die for the king, he was cought and then killed in ferocious duel between the young general and the king.

With one great strike the king's head was removed, the crown taken from his it and placed into new, much more promising braincover. The owner of this head, and the cronw, and with that the whole kindom, was Jaromir Rokossovski. The Europe will soon enough notice this man.

He, unlike his precursor, does have the spirit.

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Polish army includes 20 cavalry regiments, 12 of these uhlans, 4 hussars and 4 of cuirassiers. Each regiment is formed around 8 squadrons of 125 men. These troops, especially uhlans, are famous and respected troops beeing often thought as one of the very best cavalry forces in the continent. They are well armed and well mounted, and even their training is adecuate. They do, however, lack the actual battle experience.
The actual number of cavalrymen stands in 20,000.
Polish Uhlan of The 2nd "Vistula" Regiment (http://web2.airmail.net/napoleon/vluhlan.jpg)

Infantry isn't that great. It is poorly armed and doesn't have enough officers, neither do these have the experience or training to fullfil their duty against the best troops of their neighbours. However, due the reformation, the situation has became better. Number of regiments, around 2000 men each, is 28. This brings the total amount of soldiers to 56,000.
Infantryman of the 18th Regiment (http://web2.airmail.net/napoleon/rocco_vistula.jpg)

Artillery is, surprisingly, quite well armed and trained. Most of the pieces are new 6inch and 9inch, but their number is inadequate. As whole, Polish field artillery has only some four regiments of 36 cannons, 144 in total.
1st Battery, Guards Artillery Regiment (http://www.wargame.ch/wc/nwc/newsletter/20th_edition/Newsletter20/Images/POLartyCrew.jpg)

In addition to these, there are numerous separate garrison units, greatest beeing the Krakow, Warsawa and Brest, plus many smaller ones in other castles. Also, sceletons and plans for numerous reserve and militia regiments are ready, but most of them are still lacking adequate armament for wartime duties.
Militiaman from Eastern Poland (http://www.nps.gov/mocr/guide/militia%201.jpg)

Border Guard is strong in morale and well mounted, well trained and well armed. It, however, fields only about 9000 thousand men. They are mostly positioned along the Eastern border.
Corporal of The Border Guard's Lvov Detachment (http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5870/polishborderguard9wl.jpg)


So, in comparison to major powers of the Europe, especially the militaristic neighbours, these forces aren't really all that strong. This is however changing at the moment, as new level of determination, funding and morale has been (and is beeing) reached.

Napoleonic Earth Main Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9785161&posted=1#post9785161)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9785161&posted=1#post9785161

Between the Three Black Eagles, Russia, Prussia and Austria lies the ancient land of the Poles. Almost as old is their beautiful capital city of Warsaw, home of almost million people. The population of the Kindom stands around 20 million people.
Poland isn't economically weak, but could be much stronger under better rule and after some modernization and reforms. The thing that prevented this from happening was the King, Stanislaw Poniatowski, a Russian puppet and a weak man.

However, the winds of change are blowing. The king has been killed in one of the most magnificent coup d'etats the world has seen. The bloodshed was kept in minimum as young and extremely popular young nobleman and a General of The South Army led five of his elite cavalry regiments from Krakow to the capital. They were to take part in the great parade, but instead they stromed the palace ust after arriving. As even the Palace Guard wasn't motivated to die for the king, he was cought and then killed in ferocious duel between the young general and the king.

With one great strike the king's head was removed, the crown taken from his it and placed into new, much more promising braincover. The owner of this head, and the cronw, and with that the whole kindom, was Jaromir Rokossovski. The Europe will soon enough notice this man.

He, unlike his precursor, does have the spirit.

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Polish army includes 15 cavalry regiments, 10 of these uhlans and 4 hussars, the last one beeing the Guards Heavy Regiment, =cuirassiers. Each regiment is formed around 8 squadrons of 125 men. These troops, especially uhlans, are famous and respected troops beeing often thought as one of the very best cavalry forces in the continent. They are well armed and well mounted, and even their training is adecuate. They do, however, lack the actual battle experience.
The actual number of cavalrymen stands in 18,000.

Infantry isn't that great. It is poorly armed and doesn't have enough officers, neither do these have the experience or training to fullfil their duty against the best troops of their neighbours. Number of regiments, around 2000 men each, is 22. This brings the total amount of soldiers to 44,000.

Artillery is, surprisingly, quite well armed and trained. Most of the pieces are new 6inch and 9inch, but their number is inadequate. As whole, Polish field artillery has only some three regiments of 36 cannons, 108 in total.

In addition to these, there are numerous separate garrison units, greatest beeing the Krakow, Warsawa and Brest, plus many smaller ones in other castles. Also, sceletons and plans for numerous reserve and militia regiments are ready, but they do not have neither weapons nor training.

Border Guard is strong in morale and well mounted, well trained and well armed. It, however, fields only about 9000 thousand men. They are mostly positioned along the Eastern border.




So, in comparison to major powers of the Europe, especially the militaristic neighbours, these forces are rather weak. This is to change soon though, as new level of determination, funding and morale has been (and beeing) reached.


Fantastic news thread. Leading by example here Poland:) What is the current state of Polish politics? Is the monarchy still going to be hereditary? And what are the initial foreign policies of the Poles? Once again, first class news thread. Really good :)

Well thank you! I'm honored for this sort of a praising from a player like you :) *bows*

About the question, I am not quite sure about the heredidary-issue... The new king is so young that he doesn't have even a wife, not to mention childrens. We'll see that later. I am just about to give my first IC post, it's a letter going to the Holy Empire. I think it'll clear things out a bit considering my foreign politics ;) . The state of Polish politics is surprisingly stabile. Rokossowski is very popular character (my own little wannabe-Napoleon :p ) and the previous king was all but that. There are no real threats for the new rule, inside the Poland that is... We'll see if this is about to last.

OOC- Considering that the english navy had about 209 ships of the line in 1810, 14 isn't to much to ask is it? Your right about the artillery though...

IC-
We have received your message requesting an alliance. While at the moment we are unable to fufill any requests, in case of ailenating any other factions. For the moment we would like to open trade arangments, or possibly an officer exchange. But in a case of war with say Russia or Prussia I can assure you of the empires support.


Signed:
Francis Von Lorraine

OOC- Considering that the english navy had about 209 ships of the line in 1810, 14 isn't to much to ask is it?

ENGLAND. And 1810 (in war with France that is)! For land based country like yours, in year 1760, I think it is rather large. But as I won't be doing anything in the sea and as it is ok with our GameMaster here, it is ok with me too.

ENGLAND. And 1810 (in war with France that is)! For land based country like yours, in year 1760, I think it is rather large. But as I won't be doing anything in the sea and as it is ok with our GameMaster here, it is ok with me too.

I realise your concern but I think it is fairly realistic. A navy the size of the Holy Roman Empire's could not be used for any offensive action really. It is purely defensive as they were never a great sea power. 14 ships of the line really is an exceedingly small force, and Britain has always kept a large fleet, ever since the naval wars against the Dutch under James I, normally at the expense of the army.

Point taken. Now, however, I officially close this conversation about Empire's navy in the Polish thread :p .

Point taken. Now, however, I officially close this conversation about Empire's navy in the Polish thread :p .

Hahaha motion passed.

Massive reconstruction, reformation and restauration program has started in the kindgdom of Poland. Industry is beeing developed and new factories raised. Agriculture is also going through a devastating organizational changes. Lands of the greatest landowners are beeing shared between the poorer farmers.

Also, bureucrazy is beeing reformed. Government is now first time seriously triyng to get rid of the incredible, extremely destructive corruption. Several governors and mayors have already been executed or imprisoned due this new policy.

The army has also started an expansion. Several new regiments have been formed, new weapons produced and already existing formations trained. The funding for military has increased almost 50 percent. Several loans have been taken to make the ends meet, but it seems that if these reformations succeed, the economy will be soon able to stabilize the situation

His Majisty, King Charles the III of Spain, requests a allince with the Poland. This, along with an allince with France and the HRE that I am trying to accire would not only gaurtee Poland protection from the fools of Russia but should you decided to expand your terratorys into Russia then I would most wholeharted support bringing the true faith to those Pagens.

This propotion is accepted. We are not seeking for war with our neighbours, at least not in the nearest future, but welcome this kind of suggestion with great relief and gratitude towards you. I, personally, am not that very convinsed about Holy Empire's willingnes to announce a formal alliance. France's attitude is yet unknown to us.

Regardles, Poland is very, very grateful for this magnificent examply of brotherhood of the followers of the True Faith.

Sincerely, Your most loyal friend
Jaromir Rokossowski, King of Poland

This propotion is accepted. We are not seeking for war with our neighbours, at least not in the nearest future, but welcome this kind of suggestion with great relief and gratitude towards you. I, personally, am not that very convinsed about Holy Empire's willingnes to announce a formal alliance. France's attitude is yet unknown to us.

Regardles, Poland is very, very grateful for this magnificent examply of brotherhood of the followers of the True Faith.

Sincerely, Your most loyal friend
Jaromir Rokossowski, King of Poland
We thank you for your commitment, His most Catholic Majesty is pleased that you should choose to allie yourself with us. Our main plan is, should we sacure an allicne with the HRE and France, would be to take the Neatherlands, to stop the spread of the blasphamous religion that threatns to condemm us all.

Sweden is most displeased at this proposal, we feel isolated by this extension of the Catholic heresy and will not tolerate any interference in the Netherlands. I think I speak for the whole Protestant world when I say this, the Catholic falsities shall not spread.

Regards,
King Karl X

OOC: I persumed these negotiations were secret... of course, announcement of an alliance is public information. Plans for possible invasion of Netherlands aren't, methinks. Anyways, as you alraedy posted like that, let's expect then that Sweden has somehow managed to get the information by their agents or something.

To the so-called king of sweden, whoever he might be (like that matters)

Your empty threats have no influense to our politics whatsoever. These letters go straight to the best use I can imagine for them, I give them to the peasants to use as toilet paper (OOC:yea, I know there were toilets but my English is pathetically limited) or just to the fireplace. If you want to drive your puny country to bancrupty by spending all of your five coppercoins to letter paper, then feel free to do so... It will not help you in any aspect, but stupidity is very common in Sweden... That must be the reason you are still in power, mister.

Jaromir Rokossowsky, The King of Poland

The Kingdom of Sweden hereby issues a call to arms among the Protestant states of Europe to unite against the spreading Catholic disease. The call for an alliance of neccessity between ourselves, Russia, Great Britain, the Netherlands, Prussia and Denmark is called for to defeat this great threat. Please respond as swiftly as possible.

Also, we call on the French nation NOT to join this unholy Catholic alliance of the Spain and the Holy Roman Empire. We respect the French nation and would not wish war on it. Cast out this warmongering evil and no war shall come to pass between our two nations. To the rest of the Protestant world, join us in standing up to this Catholic pestilence. Who will answer me?

King Karl X of Sweden.

OOC: I persumed these negotiations were secret... of course, announcement of an alliance is public information. Plans for possible invasion of Netherlands aren't, methinks. Anyways, as you alraedy posted like that, let's expect then that Sweden has somehow managed to get the information by their agents or something.

To the so-called king of sweden, whoever he might be (like that matters)

Your empty threats have no influense to our politics whatsoever. These letters go straight to the best use I can imagine for them, I give them to the peasants to use as toilet paper (OOC:yea, I know there were toilets but my English is pathetically limited) or just to the fireplace. If you want to drive your puny country to bancrupty by spending all of your five coppercoins to letter paper, then feel free to do so... It will not help you in any aspect, but stupidity is very common in Sweden... That must be the reason you are still in power, mister.

Jaromir Rokossowsky, The King of Poland


ooc: nice display of backbone. also, as the Swedes have an extensive trading industry they have many contacts and would doubtless have heard of plans for closer relations between the two countries and while I admit it is debatable whether they would have found out about the Netherlands clause I didn't realise it was secret as it wasn't labelled as such. Nevertheless, I shall refrain from commenting on things in other peoples threads from now that I deem to be secret.

IC:

We do not exchange insults. Consider relations between our two countries to have dropped significantly.

As no doubt you have heard of the Protestant plans for apparent world domination, as a Catholic Nation we call you to arms. We have viewed all possabilities, and have decided the are views cannot remain impartial, we hope we can depend on Polish support in any campagins. As of now, if you will still accept us, we shall consider ourselves allies of your great state.

"Now, if the hell rises upon the world of Men again, in form of war" we shall all be prepared with god on our side.

Signed:
Francis Von Lorraine

OOC- Showed me up

And you can depend on the Spanish as well for we shall not let these hertics take ever greater libertys with the world. Soon we shall rid the world of there vile heresy.

The Polish army is beeing mobilised and concentrated. It is beeing split in two, Eastern Army around the city of Minsk and smaller Northern Army near Gdansk (Danzig). The troops have been divided in following way:

Eastern Army:
Cavalry; 15,000 men nine (9) regiments of Uhlans, three (3) of Hussars, three (3) of Cuirassiers.
Infantry; 44,000 men in twenty two (22) Infantry Regiments. In Polish army, separate regiments of Light, Line or Grenadier infantry have not been formed. Each Infantry Regiment has however usually couple of companies, 250-375 men, trained in skirmisher role.
Artillery; 108 pieces in three (3) Field Artillery Regiments. Each includes twelve (12) 9inch and twenty four (24) 6inch cannons.

Northern Army:
Cavalry; 5000 men in three (3) Regiments of Uhlans, one (1) of Hussars, one (1) of Cuirassiers.
Infantry; 12,000 men in six (6) Regiments of Infantry.
Artillery; 47 pieces in one strengthened Regiment.

Eastern Army is under the straight rule of the King Jaromir, while the Northern is lead by General Boratowsky.

This seems okay. Remember, your infantry may not be too hot but your cavalry sure as hell is.

While it's true my infantry is far behind Old Guard Grenadiers, I think it'll manage just fine against the Russian hordes of cannonfodder :p

hehe the famous Russian tactic 'advance till they're out of bullets!'

OOC:Not these Russians, we've reorganised and have better supply and command structures than ever before. If you think I'll be wasting men you may think again.
Oh and I know it's a shaky reason for war but I had to come up with something and this was pretty reasonable, in our eyes you are a usurper and the only way to set things right is to install a more "honourable" leader.

IC: It seems war is almost inevitable between our two nations, you deposed a leader who was very friendly with us in favour of one who sides with the Spainish and Germans, your leader has taken a crown and thrown that was not to be his.
As a result I offer you a simple ultimatum, we seize the eastern half of Poland and a sizeable amount of gold from your treasury and we will consider it even, fail to comply and we will take your nation by force and we will install a more rightful leader.

Signed Catherine II, Empress of Russia

Imperial Russian Announcement

I hearby declare that The Empire of Imperial Russia is at war with the Polish kingdom.

Catherine II, Empress of Russia

(OOC: already made a thread)

OOC: erm...Poland you there? I'm kind of declaring a war on you...

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