NationStates Jolt Archive

Re-started war - see later posts

Right, so you've totally not taken into account a multitude of factors:
-The ROYAL AIR FORCE would be harrasing you as soon as the British realised that a foreign force was going to land on their shores
-The ROYAL NAVY would not allow you to constantly ship supplies through to your forces. In tandem with the RAF and Navy RAF assets they would have cut your supply lines over the channel
-The British people wouldn't just let you wander over into our country. We damn well didn't in WWII (and we didn't have a lot to lose: The Germans were particularly fond of the British and visa versa) and we damn well wouldn't in 2030 (or whenever.)
-*60 helicopters are being mobilised to strike on bases and assist any Government officials who wish to join Rolatia
That's just stupid. 60 helicopters? They'd be picked up and destroyed in minutes.
-The British Army would sweep down to the south, leaving garrisons in the north and surround you. Either you'd run out of supplies or you'd just lose.

This is a badly thought out RP and also a badly written one.

This is NOIT going to turn into a Vineyard-esque (:P) flamefest. OK,
1) I haven't quite factored in the RAF, but I will quite soon
2) Ditto for the navy
3) The helicopters are for quick strikes
4) There IS a lot of disgruntlement (as evidenced by fleeing MPs) and there was recently a bill rejected on conscription (and conscription was denied for 12 months)
5) I AM IN THE SOUTH!!! Buy a map :rolleyes:
Look, I'm assuming they are slightly weaker than they are. This is to help the invasion. What I don't need is a 15-page argument with you. Besides, you are exadurating the effect, and if you see the rest of my army I could easily call them in, and THEN Britain would be in trouble

This is NOIT going to turn into a Vineyard-esque (:P) flamefest. OK,
1) I haven't quite factored in the RAF, but I will quite soon
2) Ditto for the navy
3) The helicopters are for quick strikes
4) There IS a lot of disgruntlement (as evidenced by fleeing MPs) and there was recently a bill rejected on conscription (and conscription was denied for 12 months)
5) I AM IN THE SOUTH!!! Buy a map :rolleyes:
Look, I'm assuming they are slightly weaker than they are. This is to help the invasion. What I don't need is a 15-page argument with you. Besides, you are exadurating the effect, and if you see the rest of my army I could easily call them in, and THEN Britain would be in trouble

1.) Why not? the RAF is the first line of defence for any invasion against Britain..
2.) As is the navy.
3.) So? What's the point in a quick strike that will destroy your helicopter and not cause any effect?
4.) Right, so you just twisted it so that somehow Britons hate their country and want someone to invade it. That's cool.
Not.
5.) And...? What relevance does that have to what I said?

You do realise that an army is useless when you can't actually get it anywhere?

1.) Why not? the RAF is the first line of defence for any invasion against Britain..
2.) As is the navy.
3.) So? What's the point in a quick strike that will destroy your helicopter and not cause any effect?
4.) Right, so you just twisted it so that somehow Britons hate their country and want someone to invade it. That's cool.
Not.
5.) And...? What relevance does that have to what I said?

You do realise that an army is useless when you can't actually get it anywhere?


Ugh...
1+2) I may be introducing the RAF quite soon (once my order from a storefront comes through) but I may leave out the Navy for the sake of simplicity (it's a land war). Do you not get that? I do have air troops of my own too you know. Also , there was no formal state of war when the troops were flown in
3) It's a quick strike tha'll generally kill a few troops and rescue the officials
4) No, I did not. I'm just saying that they will welcome Rolatia to an extent. If Rolatia starts causing trouble with such issues as mass genocide and martial law, they will of course rebel. Rolatia is NOT going to do that. Besides, likelihood is they'll be able to keep their own Houses of Parliament, only be ultimately governed by me. Oh, this is a bit irrelevant, but I am British by the way
5) The troops will actually be largely be flown to far-off destinations and walk or use SOVs to shorter places
After I have implemented the RAF and the navy, I am going to ignore any more criticisms. This is a war thread not a flame thread. Oh, and you have three posts by the way, and two of them are in this thread. I don't quite see how or why you criticize this - you're not even a member of Earth VII

EDIT: I just checked your stats...5 million population and East Pacific?!? You have very little rights to criticize me IMHO

EDIT: I just checked your stats...5 million population and East Pacific?!? You have very little rights to criticize me IMHO
Actually, I believe that's a puppet nation of the experienced RPer Hogsweat (UN Delegate of Haven), who by the way has 4.5 billion people and has participated in a large number of RPs, thus knows a good deal about them. Correct me if I'm wrong, which is unlikely. He just couldn't get onto the forums from NS, I suppose.

(I mean...the name ought to be a tipoff... "HogsweatHatesJolt"? :rolleyes: ;) )

Actually, I believe that's a puppet nation of the experienced RPer Hogsweat (UN Delegate of Haven), who by the way has 4.5 billion people and has participated in a large number of RPs, thus knows a good deal about them. Correct me if I'm wrong, which is unlikely. He just couldn't get onto the forums from NS, I suppose.

(I mean...the name ought to be a tipoff... "HogsweatHatesJolt"? :rolleyes: ;) )
So damned embarrased :headbang:
Ugh...anyway, I'm going to resume this once Kriegzimmer gets online and processes my order of over $100B >:(

So damned embarrased :headbang:
That's ok, it's sometimes difficult to recognize puppets. I mean, you would never guess that I'm really Myrth. Primarily because I'm not. But you get the idea. ;)

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[OOC: Similar to Hogsweat, I have a few concerns about this RP:

1) The Royal Navy and the RAF would already have engaged your forces by this point. Since RL British defence strategy revolves around a) there not being anyone with any power intending to attack, b) that NATO would help if there was and c) that the navy and RAF would prevent a landing, I doubt that what you've RPed is in any way representative of what a RL British state (or indeed any state) in this position would do.

Especially since you've conveniently kept RL British force numbers (largely by RPing stupid actions in NPC Britain) whilst removing any British allies and ignoring the RAF and RN for "simplicity's sake". It seems as though you've artificially stacked odds against the island whilst at the same time RPed them not doing anything about it.

2) I dont see any reason why British MPs (or indeed MPs in any other nation) would suddenly go over and support a belligerent power intent on attacking and subjugating their home nation merely because you "wouldnt commit genocide". It's all just way too farfetched for my liking.

As an aside, I dont RP in Earth VII or indeed any other earths (largely because of stupid wars against badly RPed NPC nations like this one), so this doesnt really affect me, but if you want to make a good RP out of this then get someone to RP Britain (I would be willing to do it, as Hogsweat probably would) and elt them choose what Parliament does in the run up to the war, let them decide who defects (if anyone) and let them decide how to fight the war because then it might actually be done with some competence on the British side. As it is, you may as well not bother RPing this war because the outcome is predecided.]

[OOC: Similar to Hogsweat, I have a few concerns about this RP:

1) The Royal Navy and the RAF would already have engaged your forces by this point. Since RL British defence strategy revolves around a) there not being anyone with any power intending to attack, b) that NATO would help if there was and c) that the navy and RAF would prevent a landing, I doubt that what you've RPed is in any way representative of what a RL British state (or indeed any state) in this position would do.

Especially since you've conveniently kept RL British force numbers (largely by RPing stupid actions in NPC Britain) whilst removing any British allies and ignoring the RAF and RN for "simplicity's sake". It seems as though you've artificially stacked odds against the island whilst at the same time RPed them not doing anything about it.

2) I dont see any reason why British MPs (or indeed MPs in any other nation) would suddenly go over and support a belligerent power intent on attacking and subjugating their home nation merely because you "wouldnt commit genocide". It's all just way too farfetched for my liking.

As an aside, I dont RP in Earth VII or indeed any other earths (largely because of stupid wars against badly RPed NPC nations like this one), so this doesnt really affect me, but if you want to make a good RP out of this then get someone to RP Britain (I would be willing to do it, as Hogsweat probably would) and elt them choose what Parliament does in the run up to the war, let them decide who defects (if anyone) and let them decide how to fight the war because then it might actually be done with some competence on the British side. As it is, you may as well not bother RPing this war because the outcome is predecided.]
I'm quite honestly new to RPing, so thanks for the input. I would appreciate it if you'd find out some better force numbers, and roleplay Britain for me. I had to keep it quite simple at first due to stonking big delays in my orders. So, I'll be erasing the first post and starting anew tomorrow :) It helps my objectives anyway. I'll be sending in more troops and planes next time (severe limits last time due to delayed orders)

So, I'll be erasing the first post and starting anew tomorrow :)

Good to know. If I haven't pissed you off too much already, could I make some suggestions?
1.) Rolatian aircraft fly over the channel for "excercises". They then launch anti shipping cruise missiles at the British ships in port at Portsmouth.
2.) Rolatian paratroopers suddenly drop into Wales, destroying bridges, roads, etc and then hiding in the Welsh mountains before the British army can respond.
3.) Rolatian landing ships drop onto the Southern shores (not sure where exactly) while the Rolatian navy ties up the RN, same thing for the RAF.
4.) Paratroopers drop on the Eastern coast and advance, confusing and therefore holding up any reinforcements to the south.
5.) Rolatian aircraft hit airbases.
6.) Rolatian paratroopers land outside London, encircling it.

Therefore teh British would be trapped in several different locations, not being able to be resupplied or reinforced because the enemy would take the location they are defending.
That's what I'd do anyway.

Excellent. That sounds like it'll be a much better RP =).

Good to know. If I haven't pissed you off too much already, could I make some suggestions?
1.) Rolatian aircraft fly over the channel for "excercises". They then launch anti shipping cruise missiles at the British ships in port at Portsmouth.
2.) Rolatian paratroopers suddenly drop into Wales, destroying bridges, roads, etc and then hiding in the Welsh mountains before the British army can respond.
3.) Rolatian landing ships drop onto the Southern shores (not sure where exactly) while the Rolatian navy ties up the RN, same thing for the RAF.
4.) Paratroopers drop on the Eastern coast and advance, confusing and therefore holding up any reinforcements to the south.
5.) Rolatian aircraft hit airbases.
6.) Rolatian paratroopers land outside London, encircling it.

Therefore teh British would be trapped in several different locations, not being able to be resupplied or reinforced because the enemy would take the location they are defending.
That's what I'd do anyway.


Well, you haven't p***ed me off much, due to the fact I realize my grievous errors in the deployment. Looking at your plan, it is quite sound and when I start launching the conquest that is what I will use :) I may have problems executing stage 3 due to no navy (until this time next week) so any suggestions of what to do? I do have a powerful air force which will by about midday GMT be even stronger