Settling Differences over Lives (Attn. Guys in Massacre Thread)
A Large Stone Hallway, strewn with Pillars and laid with burdening paintings, led only a winding pathway through the causeway into a large and magnificent chamber, filled with massive ornate statues, silver gleaming swords and a battallion of quiet, blue-uniformed policemen clad in silver lace with golden blades, and massive veined beast-like men walking around in circles as they awaited for the opening of the large iron door in the giant circular room.
Dangling from the tips of the cieling, three diamond studded chandeliers decorated the bright room, the large windowless covets allowing the sun to burst in. This was Arcarum's chamber of word, the place of judgement and thought, as candles were only the soft fade of the smoke rising from their tips. As the white clad king stepped forwards into the room, a tall and menacing but yet thin wiry man followed in his wake, the police and the warriors stood still and bowed low in his revering presence.
"We will have guests soon, and I will make sure this place is clean and spotless. Bring in the slaves, and have them clean this place up." Arcarum turned, to the wiry man, and only a flicking sound of gears rumbling about under his cloak made it seem quite odd. "Understood?"
"All too well. You live to impress, I believe?"
Kahanistan
07-10-2005, 00:01
The armored car containing the Kahanistanian delegate and his guards arrived in Haasdra. The three men entered the grounds of the complex where peace would hopefully be made lasting with both Jenrak and Shazbotdom.
Interim Defense Minister Admiral Abdul-Rahman bin Muhammad and his two Imperial Marines approached the door to the complex and requested admittance.
The guards lifted their fingers, and the sound of clicking of metal and the lashing of metal wires filled the air, as a pungent rusty chemical smoked up their nostrils. "Ignore the smell." One of the soldiers notioned, hidden in his glaven shining armour. As the two soldiers waited, finally from far off the shouting was heard, and the large Iron doors strewn with blood-red rubies, opened.
The Transylvania
07-10-2005, 01:34
Edward Darkholme was in a black 1999 Porsche 911 Turbo as he heads to Arcarum‘s castle. His father, the God-Emperor of the Dominion, had send Edward in his place for two reasons. Edward lives in Jenrak and he could talk a turtle out of its shell.
Edward was wearing something a cowboy in the wild west would wear. He had black jeans on with alligator skinned cowboy boots on. He has tan skin tight t-shirt on, which showed off his muscled chest. Over the t-shirt, he had a dark brown duster. His custom 9mm pistol was in leg holster on his right leg with two extra clips, hidden by the duster.
He pulled on the driveway leading to Arcarum‘s castle. Then parked his car and got out. As he head towards the door, he pushed a button on his key chain. The alarm on the car was turned on.
Militia Enforced State
07-10-2005, 01:34
A large transport with an elite wing of XG-32 Swarmer attack fighters fly into Jenrak airspace.
"Jenrak air control, requesting landing. We are carrying leadership on board."
Shazbotdom
07-10-2005, 05:05
OOC:
Jumped on dial up real quick. Probably will do only this one post.
Secret IC:
Aboard AC-01 Pelican Alpha 1, Mrs. Leotardia sat next to the two special ops guys who were to protect her. She tried to make small talk with them but they were ordered not to say a word to her so she could have her mind cleared for the peace talks. She was trying to think of what she would say and do during the talks to help make the process run smoother. Many things could happen during these talks that might make it more difficult for Mrs. Leotardia but she was up to the task.
Radio Transmission: "This is Shazbotdom 1 to Jenrak Air Command. Request Permission to land. Traveling Vector Alpha Five Niner. Over."
Hirgizstan
07-10-2005, 15:14
The C-17 Globemaster III looked like a cargo plane from the outside, just bland grey paint with black 'HIRGIZSTANIAN AIR FORCE' and 'HAF' markings here and there.
Inside, however, was a different story. Inside were leather seats, computers on the back of every chair, elaborate cabinets, beds, drinks cabinets, everything a luxury airliner would have had, and more besides. The plane carried much the same defense package as the Fuhrer's plane, meaning it could survive NBC warfare, and AA/SAM fire. The plane was flanked by a quad of F/A-22A's. Two F-78A Sokol (Fierce Hawk) fighters flanked the aircraft in a wide formation, a pair of F-104X Starfighters were also prowling the area, their mighty HDA-TJ-100 low bypass pulse detonation/turbofan hybrid engines tearing the sky as they cruised.
Inside the aircraft sat the Deputy Defense Secretary and Deputy Foreign Affairs Advisor. They each had a small staff of three secretaries.
In the cargo bay, toward the rear of the aircraft, in a bland interior, sat ten men, or rather cyborgs as they looked nothing like men. Their black suits made no noise, despite the fact that they were breathing and watching briefings on their HUD displays. They sat staring forward, not moving. These were the CENTURION Battle Armor suits. The men of Task Force Lightning (black ops, secret IC) would guard the HAF plane until the delegation returned, their glowing green eye slots would scare people away long before their weapons came to bear.
In the cockpit the pilot clicked a button on the roof and began to speak, "Jenrak Air Control, this is HAF-S ONE-ZERO, Require Permission to Land, have Diplomatic Envoy on-board."
Shazbotdom
07-10-2005, 16:33
Secret IC:
The radar picked up the flight group from Hirgizstan. The pilot thought nothing of it as the Hirgizstan deligation was attending this conference also. What was supprising through was the amount of aircraft that they had protecting them. It didn't really matter though as Hirgizstan was a friend and allie of the Pure Socialist Holy Empire. The pilot made a few adjustments for final approach into Jenrak airspace.
Independent Hitmen
07-10-2005, 21:58
Under Secretary of State for Alliances Jack Howerd will be attending the conference on behalf of the United States of Independent Hitmen.
He will arrive by Air Force Jet in the very near future and will be escorted by a standard Diplomatic Protection Service Team.
OOC: Small post because I do not have very much time. Fuller post coming tomorrow.
To the Militia Enforced State Transport...
You have permission to land in Haasdra, sector C-4. Please keep all gas emissions to a minimum, and do not intercept any civilian aircraft. Over
To Shazbotdom 1...
Please move your vessel to the co-ordinates we are sending you, and then follow up to the large stone airport in sector C-3. Please keep all gas emissions to a minimum, and do not intercept any civilian aircraft. Over.
To HAF-S ONE-ZERO...
Please move your vessel to the co-ordinates we are sending you, and then follow up to the large stone airport in sector C-3. Please keep all gas emissions to a minimum, and do not intercept any civilian aircraft. Over.
OOC: As you probably have guessed, the answers seem automated. I'm just very busy and haven't been able to log on recently.
Hirgizstan
08-10-2005, 17:21
The pilot fiddled with his boom mic before replying, "Roger Jenrak, HAF-S ONE ZERO en-route to sector C-4, thank you Jenrak, HAF-S ONE ZERO out."
The pilot then set about preparing for land, informing the protection aircraft and the on-board envoys.
20 Minutes Later...
The large C-17A had pulled into its alotted space, its fighter escorts parked nearby. Outside the cyborg-like soldiers dressed in CENTURION Battle Armor surrounded the plane. A waiting three car cavalcade sat idling near the foot of the metal steps.
The Deputy Defense Secretary and his staff jumped into the second limo, the Deputy Foreign Affairs advisor took the third, while a detachment of Diplomatic Guards took up seats in the front and back Hummvee's. The cavalcade then hastily exited the airport, en-route to Hassadra and the elaborate complex where the meeting would take place.
The Transylvania
09-10-2005, 01:20
Edward head into the castle after the guard allowed him in. One of them lead him to the room with it was going to happen. He bowed his head to Arcarum and looked around to find nobody was in the room but those two. “Evening, Lord.” he said before taking a seat.
“This is going to be fun.” he added.
Kahanistan
09-10-2005, 01:29
The Kahanistan Admiral and his marines followed the guards into the conference room. He glowered across the room, fully expecting the peace talks to be a farce. His marines sat on either side of him and their full gear didn't allow anything to be made of their expressions.
Independent Hitmen
09-10-2005, 11:06
After a brief stop at the small USIH consulate that operated in Jenrak, Jack Howerd was entering the fabulously decorated hall.
Why do they always use such splendid places for peace conferences he thought, his mind tracing back through pictures he had seen of the Versailles Settlement in 1919 and the subsequent troubling that had arguably caused.
The two Chevy Suburban's that had brought him here were outside in some parking spaces, two members of the DPS Team with them. It would not be hard for the host nation to kidnap the IH representative however that would have been a stupid move on their part if such a thing were to happen. President Anderson had been known to react unfavourably to kidnappings of dignitaries, especially diplomatic ones.
Hirgizstan
09-10-2005, 14:34
The COH envoys entered the splendid hall with their staff in tow, Howard Kinzer, the Deputy Foreign Affairs Advisor, and Nick Armstrong, the Deputy Defense Secretary, stared around the extremely ornate and possibly over-decorated room. They were accompanied by a number od Diplomatic Guards who stared around the room, eyeing the various dignataries, standing or sitting alone.
Howard stopped looking around as he noticed Jack Howerd standing on one side of the room with a few guards and some staff. He motioned for Nick to follow him over. The USIH DPS team noticed the COH ID tags and made way for the two men. Howard took precedent and extending his hand first, "Jack...good to see you, how's everything?"
"Things like this bores me. I can barely find the required neccessities to have an interesting conversation." Arcarum said to Edward, before standing up to the podium. "Let all Delegates please proceed unto the sanctums in front of them." Arcarum spoke into the microphone, as he pointed to the podiums identical to his, strewn in a circle.
"The meeting shall commence when all delegates have reported."
The Transylvania
10-10-2005, 02:09
Edward moved from the chair he was in then moved to the podium in front of him. Then he waited for the others arrived.
Shazbotdom
10-10-2005, 19:28
IC:
*Inside the Main Meeting Room*
Mrs. Leotardia walked into the room with the two unarmed guards flanking her to the left and right. She quickly walked to a seat up on the main stage to the right of the Podium since Shazbotdom was the nation that was assaulted unjustly using nuclear weaponry. The guards pulled out small bar stools out of their backpacks and set them up right behind Mrs. Leotardia. You could tell that these two guards were uneasy about this assignment but they were to follow their orders to the letter. They were close enough that they could pull the Emperor's wife to the foor in the event of a fight breaking out.
*Outside the Main Meeting Room*
Several (4) Armed Guards took their position in a small room outside of the main meeting room with their XR-01 Battle Rifles on full saftey. They were tasked with running into the room in the event of any gunfire. They were to protect the Emperors wife against any and all attacks in case the unarmed guards were to be taken out. Galen picked the best men from the Marine Corps for this job and he knew that they would defend his wife to the best of their abilities.
*In the Parking Lot*
All the vehicles were parked in a circular formation around the main transport vehicle. The formation would make it easy for them to pick off anyone to threatened to destroy the vehicles in any matter, be it using a RPG to someone attempting to use small arms fire.
"The delegation from Shazbotdom has arrived, and the delegation from The Transylvania has arrived. Please, other delegates state your arrival or please notify me of it." Arcarum spoke once more, his eyes shifting around at everybody else.
The doors to the room opened wide once again, the crimson clad form of Samurai Major Kiro entered the room. Nodding to his fellow delegates, the towering Neo-Otagian took his place at his podium.
"Excellent. The Delegation from Otagia has arrived." Arcarum spoke into the microphone, now waiting for the last few.
Shazbotdom
10-10-2005, 20:22
Mrs. Leotardia was writting up what she wanted to say off the back when the meeting started. Ideas were flowing through her mind as she typed up on her laptop what she wanted to say. She thought to herself, Sigh. Lets see. Something about wanting the repirations for the damage done to the military bases. Let me think. Military spending in their nation decreased majorly and their forces cut to only around 25% of their current forces. Ah. The man in charge of the nuclear attacks upon Shazbotdom arrested and sent to the Pure Socialist Holy Empire to be brought before a military tribunal. Charges with crimes against humanity and warcrimes. That should be at least a good start.
She then closed the lap top and looked out over the different deligates around the room. This would be a pinical point in the history of the world and she was at the forefront. The first 'first wife' to be a part of diplomatic talks in the Pure Socialist Holy Empire's history. This is a great day indeed.
Arcarum stood there, his mind boiling in boredom. I cannot believe I have to go through this. I would rather be reading manuscripts than this. A vein throbbed up eventually in his head, but it simmered down once more, his fingers taping gently on the podium in front of him.
"He had to kill the last Mouthe, didn't he?" Arcarum whispered in fury, his mouth blurting out his thoughts.
Shazbotdom
10-10-2005, 20:58
"He had to kill the last Mouthe, didn't he?" Arcarum whispered in fury, his mouth blurting out his thoughts.
Mrs. Leotardia looked over at Arcarum with a puzzled look on her face....
"Sorry about that." Arcarum said, in a monotone voice to Mrs. Leotardia. Attempting to keep himself on track, he asked her, "What are you planning to emphasize to other nations in this meeting?"
Shazbotdom
10-10-2005, 21:15
Mrs. Leotardia turned her chair to him and said, "That nuclear, bilogical, and chemical weapons are usless as a first strike weapon. And that attacking a nation without a proper declaration of war is majorly immoral and in the Pure Socialist Holy Empire is considered a War Crime. There are other things but i will keep that for my opening statment."
"I see. What about surprise attacks? Sanduras has launched a surprised attack against us, and we've felt their brunt of force. I say, we weren't expecting a fully launched offensive from a nation that spitd us so, but you must agree that there are merits to not having a declaration when it is clearly not needed."
Shazbotdom
10-10-2005, 21:40
"I do believe though that it is still unjust to attack any nation, no matter what your reason is, without an official Declaration of War. If i remember many nations get stomed down upon because of their lack of judgement when it comes to starting wars and how they do it. If National Leaders submit an official Declaration of War then i would be fine with them launching attacks but when they launch attacks without declaring war they are just asking for trouble."
Kahanistan
10-10-2005, 21:56
The Kahanistanian Admiral raised his eyebrows. He had never liked General al-Aziz, but the man had been fired by the President as Deputy Defense Minister. "We have destroyed most of our nuclear weapons that we didn't use in the attacks, and the man who ordered the attacks has been fired as Deputy Defense Minister. But we must state our position. We were engaged with hostilities in Jenrak, after they massacred an entire city for a gold mine as a testament to their capitalistic depravity, and Shazbotdom threatens to attack us when our homeland is vulnerable. We cannot fight a war on two fronts against two nations that outnumber us, so we had to act quickly and decisively to weaken their forces while we engaged Jenrak. The missiles were not as effective as the hawks in our military had hoped, and we were forced to withdraw all but about 60,000 stranded troops from Jenrak to prepare for the invasion we expected from Shazbotdom."
Admiral Abdul-Rahman bin Muhammad took another deep breath. "We have already wired 5.4 billion dollars to Shazbotdom. We have destroyed all but eight of our nuclear missiles, and the satellite we fired them from. We have no intention of shrinking our military, it is the instrument which enables us to respond to such threats on the universal human rights each citizen of the world enjoys."
"Now, what we want out of these talks: We want an end to hostilities with Shazbotdom. We will hand over the man who ordered these attacks, one General Abu Hamza al-Aziz, but only if we can be promised that he will not be executed. From Jenrak we want the closing of the Delisk Mines, the end of slavery, and the other abuses which precipitated our intervention."
"It does have a certain tension and strategic advantage when an enemy is not expecting it, however. But what if your foe does expect your attack? Yet you still fight back? Would that be the same?"
Arcarum turned to the Admiral. "The Slaves of Hsac give us a strong economic advantage against our northern rivals. What could be such acollateral for us to take down an age long system?"
Kahanistan
10-10-2005, 22:06
Admiral Bin Mohammed frowned. This wasn't the first time someone had tried to defend slavery to him by explaining that it was essential to the economy. "We will provide economic aid and machinery to perform the work of the former slaves. If unemployment rises, the Government of Kahanistan will be willing to accept up to 10 million former slaves as refugees. You can even pay freed workers out of our aid packages. The machinery we perovide will need maintenance, we will provide training to your workers in how to repair them."
"My workers are skilled enough, thank you very much." He spoke a touch of anger and impatience. "However, I tend to not use slaves as they are cheap, but as an opportunity for my own citizens to become more...academically based. My people are soldiers, engineers, designers...not workers. I leave that to the unfortunate."
Kahanistan
10-10-2005, 22:19
The Admiral became visibly frustrated. "It is the unfortunate that we seek to help. That is the difference between our two ideologies. We believe in helping the less fortunate, you oil the machinery of capitalism in the blood of the workers. We use machines to do our manual labor, drilling petroleum and converting it to plastics, drilling tunnels for defense against siege warfare, these drilling machines could do most of your slaves' work."
"Perhaps, or perhaps we seek to increase our wealth so that we may find a greater virtue , through blood and bone. What if one of your contraptions ruins a distinct archaelogical site? Is truly progress with machines worth it?"
Kahanistan
10-10-2005, 22:35
When the Admiral spoke again, it was through gritted teeth. This guy was using slaves to protect archaeological sites? "If we are digging in mines and oil wells, there will be no archaeological sites there. Let's say someone built a palace 5,000 years ago. That oil well or mine would have been there then. While oil wasn't used much till a few hundred years ago, gold was used for thousands of years. And nobody would have continued to build if they were digging a foundation for a building and black gunk squirted up, even if it was useless to the technology of the time. Your suggestion that our mining machines could destroy an archaeological site is absurd on its face. Frankly, it sickens me that you didn't discover the gold BEFORE the city of Delisk was built on top of a gold mine. Maybe you're right and the progress with machines isn't worth it, but certainly human rights is. And your acts of capitalist barbarism and exploitation prove that you value the Almighty Dollar more than human life."
A helicoptor with Juy and Dur landed in an airstrip after being let through. They were taken to the meeting room. As they entred, Dur apologized. "So sorry we are late, just been busy with Khur affairs."
"If we devalue the population of Jenrak to less than the value of the person's life, then it would amount to simply less than 2 billion. But we don't. It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make to keep Jenrak going forwards. We have tried compassion....oh yes, we have." He had a twitching smile, or mockery and distinct anger. "But it doesn't work. Our nation is a theocracy, and our people believe things most do not. A heritage to us is greater than money."
Kahanistan
10-10-2005, 22:46
The Admiral was furious now. Kahanistan had experimented with theocracy for about thirty years. about 150 years ago. "Our nation was a theocracy about 150 years ago. But we conquered others who did not accept our religion. Near the end of our time as a rogue nation, our leaders were forced to realize that theocracy did not work. There were too many people who did not accept our god, or did not see our god the same way. There was internal conflict over how to properly interpret the scripture, which scriptures were canon, and which interpretation of the one god was true. Eventually we threw our hands up and decided belatedly that theocracy is a primitive and barbaric value system and decided to let our people choose their own faith. We have millions of devil-worshipers now but that's the price you pay for freedom, and even the devil worshipers would never approve of such a cruel abuse of humans."
"Uh-oh." Dur sat and Juy stood behind him. A sqaud of Spec Ops filed in and went behind Juy and Dur. "Can I say something? Thanks. We, the nation of Quere, are a terrorist nation, if you haven't noticed. We chose this way many years ago. You," he mentioned to the anhistan group, "are like us as you also view capitalist nationsas corrupt, though more than we do. And you," he mentioned to the Jenrak group, "are a theocracy. You, too, have different views. Our three nations are all different, but we have one thing in common: we want our people to be happy. So let us make peace and accept the different nations."
OOC:Really, that is a HUGE problem these days.
OOC:BTW, Kanihstan, do you use any IM? If you do, tell me what it is and the name.
"So, you believe theocracy is barbaric and primitive? Dilute yourself with whatever contemplations you believe, but to us, it is a way of life. You come in and attempt to make us change our beliefs? What will you do if we decline? Will you hurt us? Destroy us? Invade us? Turn our sands to glass? To what you will, but you will still not change our view. Delisk will be a gold mine, and the people who work in it's halls will work till death. Make no mistake."
Kahanistan
10-10-2005, 23:20
OOC: If I gave out my IM, I'd get even more flooded than I am. I live on the internet, I have dozens of people already on my list.
The Transylvania
10-10-2005, 23:22
Edward stays out of the talks for a little bit. He listened to the words of the Shazbotdom’s delegate and Arcarum talk about what happened. The Shazbotdom’s delegate said something about not have an official Declaration of War. Edward smiled at that.
Then the Kahanistanian Admiral said something to both the Shazbotdom’s delegate and Arcarum. Something about them wiring 5.4 billion dollars to Shazbotdom. Then the next thing the Kahanistanian Admiral made him laugh inside.
That idiot, Arcarum is not going to closed down the mine or end slavery in Jenrak. he said to himself.
Kahanistan
10-10-2005, 23:24
The admiral was now almost beside himself with rage. "Perhaps we should... put this discussion off until we have negotiated peace with Shazbotdom." The two Imperial Marines glared at the Jenrak diplomat as the Admiral leaned back in his chair to face the Shazbotdom delegate. "What further concessions would be helpful to restoring and maintaining peace?"
Dur muttered, "Fine ignore me. At least it worked, though." Dur and Juy turned to the Shazbotdom delagate.
"Please iterate. What worked?"
"Nothing. I am just glad this...aurgument stopped."
The Transylvania
10-10-2005, 23:44
Edward saw that the two Imperial Marines, behind the Kahanistanian Admiral, glared at Arcarum.
“Admiral! Your guards can wait outside, if they would to glare at King Arcarum that way.” he said. “King Arcarum, is the one who set this up. And your guards are going to get you kicked out of here because of the way they act.”
Arcarum did not change his expression. "No, Mr. Darkholme, they are free to express their words through any means of non-violent communication. This is a battle of words and spirit, of soul and thought, not of body and machine. Feel free to say whatever that takes your whim."
The Transylvania
10-10-2005, 23:52
“Oh…well, be happy I’m here in my father’s spot.” said Edward. “Because they would have been killed already.”
“But if you don’t care, I will not care.” he added.
Kahanistan
11-10-2005, 00:29
Admiral Bin Muhammad faced Dur and Juy. The expressions on the Imperial Marines' faces softened somewhat, though they held their rifles tighter. "You're right, we do need peace. Since we both view capitalistic nations as corrupted, and possibly have other similar ideologies, perhaps we should consider becoming allies."
He then looked over toward the Transylvanian delegate. "We haven't seriously followed your politics. Can you describe to us what you seek out of these negotiations?"
The Transylvania
11-10-2005, 01:10
“Oh…before I tell you what the Dominion seek out of these negotiations. I will tell you whom I am.” said Edward. He looked in the eyes. “I’m Prince Edward Darkholme, the Secretary of law and Order of the Dominion. Now with that out of the way.”
“What the Dominion seek out of these negotiations is two things.” said Edward. “To see the man who fired off the nukes at Shazbotdom.” He took a small pause. “Be killed for those deaths of the children who died in that attack. And that his soul goes to hell, where it is need.” Edward smiled a huge smile, showing off his fangs.
“And Admiral, that your nation and your government leave Jenrak alone.” he added.
Dur stood and talked with juy in a corner. They needed allies, but they did want to make such a great haste. Finally, Dur sat again. "Yes. We shall be the first of a league of nations, if that it ok with you. We shall add more people, all parts of different regions, and some freelance nations. We shall become powerful, and announce our league soon. Or, if you want, just our two nations and I form the league elsewhere. But, uh, you two talk, and after we shall talk."
(ok, if anyone here uses any IM that is involded with me, tell me by TG or something, and you Translavania because I forgot it,lol)
Shazbotdom
11-10-2005, 15:50
The Emperors wife, Mrs. Leotardia, looked over at the Kahanistan Deligate. The fire was in her eye as she tried to listen to the deligate justify the unlawful attacks upon the Pure Socialist Holy Empire.
"What WE want is for the person or persons in charge of the attack against us be sent to our nation to be held accountable in front of a Military Tribunal. They will have a multitude of charges brought against them. Since we are not fully sure on the amount of dead, the following list can, and probably will, become much larger."
She them opens up her laptop and shrines a projector onto the side wall of the big room. The slide lays out the charges that will be put against the person or persons who were behind the attack.
12,647 Charges of 1st Degree Murder
War Crimes against the Pure Socialist Holy Empire
Unlawful destruction of equipment belonging to the Pure Socialist Holy Empire.
Kahanistan
11-10-2005, 16:36
"As I said, we would be willing to consider handing the general who ordered the attacks over to Shazbotdom, but only if we are assured that he will not be executed. We will pay for the equipment, but there is only so far we will go for peace," said the Admiral.
Shazbotdom
11-10-2005, 16:41
Mrs. Leotardia looked back from the screen toward the Kahanistan Deligate. "We cannot guarantee anything about his life. We will gurantee that he will, if found guilty, be sentenced to the Prison Colony on an island in the south pacific for the rest of his unnatural life. If any of the current prisoners on that Island kill him, then thats how it is. We do not put security on any prisoner, reguardless of their political affiliation."
The Samurai broke his silence.
"Could we not find a compromise here? Simply put the man in solitary confinement for the rest of his life. That way, the Kahanistanis get their safety, and you get your man behind bars."
Militia Enforced State
11-10-2005, 18:57
OOC: Sorry about my delay. Say that I arrived a few minutes late, and have already started discussing.
Posting reply sometime today.
"Ah," Arcarum chimed, "It seems that the delgation of the Militia Enforced State has not yet uttered a single word of prevalence. Perhaps they have something to contribute to this?"
Shazbotdom
11-10-2005, 22:43
"Could we not find a compromise here? Simply put the man in solitary confinement for the rest of his life. That way, the Kahanistanis get their safety, and you get your man behind bars."
Mrss Leotardia looked at the deligate from Otagia rather angrily. She then took a deep breath and replied to him.
"We will not put anyone in Solitary Confinment unless they do something to deserve it. The one thing that will make them deserve Solitary Confinment while visiting our Prison Colony is if they break any of the rules of the Prison, and those are hard to break. So he will stay with the general population of the Prison until he either does something against the rules of the prision, or dies from either natural causes or from a prisoner killing him."
"Are you planning to imprison him forever?"
Shazbotdom
11-10-2005, 23:01
Mrs. Leotardia looked over to the Jenrak Deligate.
"We seek to imprison him for the rest of his life yes. If he was a normal civilian in the Pure Socialist Holy Empire he would get the death penalty, but seeing as he is an outsider we will let him suffer before his impending death."
"Seems that could work in a war. But perhaps there is no need for special treatment." Arcarum suggested. "Treat him as you would treat a normal scum within your borders, who would commit a normal crime."
Shazbotdom
11-10-2005, 23:32
Mrs. Leotardia shook hear head.
"The Deligate from Kahanistan stated that they will only turn him over if we don't give him the death penalty. We would rather him pay for his crimes and stay in jail for life than have him go free because of a leadership of a nation that won't turn him over for the fear of him dying."
Shazbotdom
11-10-2005, 23:35
Mrs. Leotardia passed a note to Arcarum. on the note it said,
We will however put up paperwork throughout the prison before he is sent there stating that any man who kills the General from Kahanistan will recieve 1/2 of their prison sentence. So he will be killed shortly after he arrives. But that is up to the Military Tribunal to decide.
Arcarum ripped the note apart, before throwing it into the nearby trash can. "I see. It makes logical sense, and would prove to be essential and valid to both nations. Certainly the only thing that is left is the tribunal and Kahanistan's word."
The Transylvania
12-10-2005, 00:22
Edward stay out of the talks after the Kahanistan idiot ignore him.
The son of a ***** ask me a question and does not what to talk to me after I answer them. he said to himself in his mind.
Shazbotdom
12-10-2005, 00:46
Mrs. Leotardia takes a sip of some Pepsi Wild Cherry that is sitting in front of her on the podium. She then looks down at her watch.
"We are still waiting for the reply ofthe delegation of Kahanistan."
Dir sat and Juy listened, looking at the Kahnistan delagate. They waited patiently.
Kahanistan
12-10-2005, 03:50
"It would probably be easier for a Shazbotdom Special Forces team to capture him. There will be massive social unrest in Kahanistan if one of its highest ranking officers is openly handed over. The General goes to the Al-Khattab Mosque across the main highway from the Government District to pray every Friday at 5:00 PM. It would be easy for a Special Forces team of Shazbotdom troops disguised as congregants to capture him as he enters. He is an old man, he will be easily subdued and probably won't even put up a fight." An Imperial Marine guard gave a copy of General Abu Hamza al-Aziz's military file with photographs to Mrs. Leotardia. "He only travels with security outside of the capital, so grabbing him as he enters or leaves the mosque is ideal."
Admiral Bin Muhammad then faced Darkholme. "We desire peace, but leaving Jenrak and its government alone in its state is highly unlikely given our history of interventionism in repressive theocracies and corporate dictatorships. We will pull off militarily, but expect us to remain openly hostile to Jenrak. We are, however, willing to make peace and possibly even exchange ambassadors with Transylvania."
Hirgizstan
12-10-2005, 14:14
OOC: Independent Hitmen cannot participate in the talks at this time, thus he has asked me to be the representative from the Ottoman Alliance.
Howard Kinzer and Nick Armstrong sat silent, listening to the heated arguments being tossed around the room. They were of course, in full support of Shazbotdom, but had said nothing to any affect since they arrived.
Howard stood to get attention. The room went silent, the Kahanistani Admiral was quiet. "Gentlemen, it seems to me unfair that the justice system of the sovereign state of Shazbotdom is being undermined, as is the statist relevance of Jenrak, in relation to is sovereignity. Kahanistan is undermining another state's sovereignity. What another state does within its own territory is not ther business of any other state, unless it directly impacts on the other state. In this case slavery in Jenrak makes no impact on Kahanistan, and in the first place they should not have been involved. Kahanistan is very much in the wrong here, and though you, Admiral, may not accept this, it is the truth. Your attack on Jenrak and Shazbotdom is heinous, ill-thought out and idiotic. The Ottoman Alliance, whom we represent, demands that sovereignity is respected, and here it has not been. The Ottoman Alliance asks that all troops are pulled out of Jenrak and reparations are paid to this nation. The OA is grateful that you have decided to hand over a war criminal to face trial, but we must secure the rest of the objectives of this conference."
Howard sat back down, ready to face whatever questions he was asked, if any.
The Transylvania
12-10-2005, 15:18
Admiral Bin Muhammad then faced Darkholme. "We desire peace, but leaving Jenrak and its government alone in its state is highly unlikely given our history of interventionism in repressive theocracies and corporate dictatorships. We will pull off militarily, but expect us to remain openly hostile to Jenrak. We are, however, willing to make peace and possibly even exchange ambassadors with Transylvania."
“Well, it is not going to happen. If you’re remaining openly hostile with Jenrak, you will be seen as an enemy of the Dominion.” said Edward. “The reason is because the Dominion has more ties in Jenrak then your nation.”
“Two Dominion Royal family members, myself and my sister, are married two of Jenrak top commanders of their armed forces.” He added.
“And before you say anything else, I will tell you something else about the Dominion.” He took a small five second pause. “The Dominion is a total monarchy. Meaning my father has the power to do anything. Like pass a bill for children of the age of 12 to join the army.”
Shazbotdom
12-10-2005, 15:30
Mrs. Leotardia sat there listening to Howard. She liked all that she heard comming from his mouth and in the manner of which he was saying it. She then spoke up after he finished talking.
"The Pure Socialist Holy Empire thanks Howard Kinzer, the Commonwealth Of Hirgizstan, and the Ottoman Alliance for their kind words." She then turned toward the Kahanistan Deligate. "If you are unwilling to turn him over then we will have to take the matters into our own hands. For every day that passes by we will drop one laser guided bomb onto the forest in your nation. Slowly getting closer to your military bases. We will not invade, we will just destroy your resources. That is, unless you turn the General over to us within the next 24 hours."
She smiled after she said that last sentence. She was sick of the Kahanistan goverment pussyfooting around this issue. She didn't care if the nation went into full anarchy. She wanted the bastard who nuked her homeland to pay for his crimes. If she had her way the guy would be there right now and she would put a bullet in his cranium, but that wasn't going to happen.
Shazbotdom
12-10-2005, 20:25
*bump*
"That is a fairly...aggressive stance on the issue." Arcarum told Mrs. Leotardia, his eyes shifting in wonder. "Alright, we'll see how things work out." Turning to the Kahanistan delegate, he did not change his tone nor his face.
"I have no ill-bearings towards your nation, and you may dilute your mind with whatever beliefs you hold. But let me tell you this; millions upon millions of unfortunate people in nations easily coerced suffer worse fates than slavery everyday, and yet you would only come to us to complain? You would leap straight into a dragon's maw to save the masses? I do not understand that. Can you please explain your motives?"
Shazbotdom
12-10-2005, 20:41
OOC:
If i do decide to bomb the ever living shit out of Kahanistan's nation, i will create a new thread and post the link here. I'm still debating about it though.
OOC:
If i do decide to bomb the ever living shit out of Kahanistan's nation, i will create a new thread and post the link here. I'm still debating about it though.
OOC: He might have alot of people defending him, though.
Shazbotdom
12-10-2005, 21:02
OOC: He might have alot of people defending him, though.
Yeah. Well this would be considered retalliation from what he did. So my allies would defend me if needed.
Yeah. Well this would be considered retalliation from what he did. So my allies would defend me if needed.
Yeah, I guess you have a point.
OOC: Don't attack. It would be pointless. "I'll call peace," says you. Then you attack him? People could judge you for that. Sorry, please don't hate me...
OOC still: Kahnistan, what about me? What about my 'propusal' to a league of nations?
Shazbotdom
12-10-2005, 23:30
OOC: Don't attack. It would be pointless. "I'll call peace," says you. Then you attack him? People could judge you for that. Sorry, please don't hate me...
OOC:
Not juding you on this, but i never said that i wanted peace. He is the one who said that. And i have the right to launch retaliatory attacks upon him. I never retracted my declaration of war against his nation. And i won't until I have this general guy in my nations custory.
Militia Enforced State
13-10-2005, 00:03
Force Commander Chris Kaider slams his fist on the table. "Enough with attacking Jenrak! We are here to create peace, and change attitudes. First, we need to promise everyone that we all are not going to war! Then we will deal with Jenrak's human rights abuses."
He sips his drink, and continues. "As for Jenrak, if we could incentive you with ways to do your work without abusing the population by using machines by our paying for them, you should have no reason to continue the rights abuses, right?"
OOC:
Not juding you on this, but i never said that i wanted peace. He is the one who said that. And i have the right to launch retaliatory attacks upon him. I never retracted my declaration of war against his nation. And i won't until I have this general guy in my nations custory.
OOC:Gee, I REALLY need to think before I type AND speak. But I don't really pay attention to nations who do NOTHING with me. But kahnistan doesn't like cpaitalist countries, so don't say they don't have any thing to do with me.
Kahanistan
13-10-2005, 02:08
Admiral Bin Muhammad folded his arms across his chest. "I have given you the intelligence you need to grab the General yourselves. I thought that would be more fulfilling to you to take him in yourselves. You would of course be going in disguise to capture him and put him on trial or whatever. Do whatever you want with the intelligence we gave, capture him, kill him, whatever. That way the people of Kahanistan will not see their government as handing over a powerful general, and you get your man. The idea is mine, the government will think he was abducted by extremists, but if my government finds out I even suggested taking him, I will be tried and stripped of my rank at the very least."
He then faced Darkholme. "But the question is, would your father draft 12 year olds into the military? He may have that," he grimaced here, "right, but would he actually commit such an atrocity? We take twelve-year-olds, but they go through so much training they're twenty before they become active, and then they're officers, so it's not like we use children in battle."
"And, Mr. Dir and Mr. Juy, I am quite willing to accept your idea of a league of nations, but we must hammer out its ideologies later."
Finally, he addressed Force Commander Kaider. "We have already offered Jenrak the use of machines and economic aid to abolish slavery. They seemed to consider it abandoning their heritage to consider it."
The Transylvania
13-10-2005, 02:51
He then faced Darkholme. "But the question is, would your father draft 12 year olds into the military? He may have that," he grimaced here, "right, but would he actually commit such an atrocity? We take twelve-year-olds, but they go through so much training they're twenty before they become active, and then they're officers, so it's not like we use children in battle."
“Well, Mr. Admiral, my father has pass that law. “ started Edward. “But it is not that we are drafting these kids in the Dominion Army. It is they are wanting to join the Dominion Army.”
“Most of them have had brothers, fathers, grandfathers, and so on in the ranks of the Dominion Army.” said Edward. “So…”
“Wait…we are not here about the Dominion. We are here about your nuke throwing nation. So, I will shut up about the Dominion for now.”
Kahanistan
13-10-2005, 03:02
The Admiral then spoke directly to Arcarum. "You ask us why we would leap into the dragon's maw to save the masses. You said that you had a heritage that to you was more important than the economic aid you would have received from us to abolish slavery. We have a history of horrific human rights abuses and religious warfare. But we adopted a secular, socialist, democratic constitution 150 years ago. In those 150 years, the love of human rights, and the detestation of capitalism has become almost part of our national identity."
"Slaves are much cheaper to maintain, easier to attain. They require little effort to keep alive, and their output profit is greater than that of machinery. Plus, of all the things machines could destroy or miss, I would rather keep Jenrak build upon blood and bone, no matter whose it is."
Shazbotdom
13-10-2005, 05:41
Mrs. Leotardia sends a quick E-Mail to her husband. She then turns away from the computer monitor and addresses the Kahanistan Repesentitve.
"You do what you wish, we will do what we have to. We have given you enough chances to abide by our wishes and you have blatantly spat on them. For a nation that is so bent on not wanting to be attacked, you sure don't like giving a nation that you attacked what they want. Your precious general will wind up i our custody, after we do what we wish."
She then turns toward the Jenrak representitive.
"I'm sory that you had to listen to this crap between us. I will take my leave and meet up with my husband in an underground bunker to discuss what we need to do. You will be notified on what we plan to do when the time comes. Until then, i wish you peace and prosperity."
In a swift motion, 5 armed Marines stormed through the double doors in the back of the room. They then proceeded toward the front of the room and surrounded Mrs. Leotardia. They told her that it was time to go and she followed them towards the back of the room. The 2 unarmed guards followed close by and opened the doors in the back of the room for the 5 Marines and Mrs. Leotardia. Within minutes she was back on the motorcade heading back to the airport of where the 3 AC-01's were parked. She had the drivers go slow through the city so she could take in the sights, something she was unable to do while she was on her way to the conference.
The Motorcade stopped in several key places within Jenrak to look at the sights. I wish i could have stayed longer.Thought Mrs. Leotardia. I would have loved to see more of the countryside. But this has to be done if we are to see retribution for what has happened to the Pure Socialist Holy Empire. It took roughly 50 minutes for the motorcade to reach the airport. The 3 Warthog's attached themselves to the AC-01's. The mairnes and Mrs. Leotardia got on board the aircraft and then the AC-01's took off back toward the Shazbotdom Homeland. It was estimated that it would take 5 hours to reach home. And Mrs. Leotardia really missed her husband, The Emperor.
Before Arcarum could answer, Mrs. Leotardia had left, and he was left now with only one less delegate. "Well, how will things be settled, now? The only issue I believe left is our own ideal of slavery, and I have made my thoughts on that quite adamant."
The Transylvania
13-10-2005, 21:32
Edward would not leave until everybody else leaves. He stood there being quite.
Lord Drakthaz entered into the room, in a casual blue T-shirt and long shorts that showed off his hairy legs and rotund figure. Whispering into Arcarum's ears, he nodded, and then stood back, hiding back asthe delegation continued, even when the Shazbotdom delegate had left. Turning to the Kahanistan delegate, Arcarum confided, "How about this; since you are so adamant to have us release a number of slaves, then I suggest we see the tenacity of these machines of yours. If the machines can work and produce more than the slaves, as well as not harming the equipment, we will hand these slaves over to you. If not, then you will not bother us no more of things that do not concern happenings within your borders. Deal?"
Shazbotdom
13-10-2005, 22:58
OOC:
Kahanistan should prepare (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=449473).
Militia Enforced State
14-10-2005, 00:18
Lord Drakthaz entered into the room, in a casual blue T-shirt and long shorts that showed off his hairy legs and rotund figure. Whispering into Arcarum's ears, he nodded, and then stood back, hiding back asthe delegation continued, even when the Shazbotdom delegate had left. Turning to the Kahanistan delegate, Arcarum confided, "How about this; since you are so adamant to have us release a number of slaves, then I suggest we see the tenacity of these machines of yours. If the machines can work and produce more than the slaves, as well as not harming the equipment, we will hand these slaves over to you. If not, then you will not bother us no more of things that do not concern happenings within your borders. Deal?"
Force Commander Kaider stands up, and holds out his hand. "Deal. I will set up demonstrations immediately, and I can assure you that you will be impressed. And like you said hand the slaves to us."
"And, Mr. Dur and Mr. Juy, I am quite willing to accept your idea of a league of nations, but we must hammer out its ideologies later."
OOC:S0rry, it's Dur, though. Just tellin' you.
IC:
"OK, that is fine by me. After this, we shall talk.
Kahanistan
14-10-2005, 01:20
Admiral Bin Muhammad extended his hand to Arcarum and smiled grimly. "Thank you for your generous efforts toward conciliation. It is far more than we expected. It seems like I will have to prepare for the attack by Shazbotdom. I wish I could see more of Jenrak, but my people need me." He and his Imperial Marines turned and left. One of them left some schematics for Kahanistanian drilling machines.
As the Kahanistan Delegate left, Arcarum turned to the Militia Enforced State delegate. "Very well," He huffed, "We shall what happens."
OOC:Kahnistan, TG me on NationStates and we'll talk...ttyl!
IC:"So then I guess I am not needed here?" Dur stood and Dur and Juy walked out, their squad behind them.
Hirgizstan
16-10-2005, 14:27
Howard Kinzer and Nick Armstrong quietly left with their staff and Guards in tow. They quickly returned to the airfield and were off toward the COH within the hour. They were no longer needed at the conference.