NationStates Jolt Archive

I have just begun to construct my military and need to know where my shortsights are. So if I can get one or more groups to play some wargames or somethin' it would be a great help. It would be MT/PMT, totally open, and if enough people jump on it might run more than one scenario. So...um...yay?

Um...I'd ignore that reply.

Anyway, this actually sounds like a good idea. I haven't got my military finished yet - maybe a week or so - but I hope you find someone to help in the meantime.

I wouldn't have anything against participating.

Gruenberg, Theao, thanks. I've still gotta work out some details, like the scenarios an' stuff, so if you have suggestions by all means send them. As for Klinglon, there, he's just a guy from work.

'insert corny music here' Bump--bump-bump-bump. Bump--bump-bump-bump--buuump.

Do you want a full pseudo-war or a limited one?
Do you want to have 'missions' or just go 'all-out'?

A full psuedo-war sounds good. Maybe with a few actual missions thrown in as well. i.e. Such as random infantry unit #7 must take hill #42 and eliminate all opposition. That way we get some of both. The main problem, as I see it, is that I'm about a third of your size. It might work better if Gruenberg and I teamed up on you, though you would still be larger.

I'm interested. Jensai's army is based arond fast-moving mechanized units. Mostly infantry in APCs backed up by light AFVs and some heavier stuff.

Size can be scaled down to equivalancy, or provide a greater challenge. There are many historical wars when the out-numbered force won throught skillful employment.

For the pseudo war, I'd suggest either picking a RW map, or creating a map.
Then choose invader or defender. List military units, and go from there.

If there's space for me, I wouldn't mind joining in. I really like Theao's idea of the map-that would make things a hell of a lot clearer.

If there's space for me, I wouldn't mind joining in. I really like Theao's idea of the map-that would make things a hell of a lot clearer.
Thanks, one of the reasons for the map is that it provides contour details, terrain obstacles, and 'prevents' terrain wanking.

I'm definately interested.

Thanks, one of the reasons for the map is that it provides contour details, terrain obstacles, and 'prevents' terrain wanking.

That sounds awesome.

I'm interested.

Cool. Who wants to start it up?

yo, count me in for Near-future bits if there's space left. long time since i actually got a proper fight, it's all peacekeeping actions. i should become evil scum and then invade people for no reason. oh well...

The best thing to do is, take a map from the net and carve it up in paint or something. Since there are so many nations willing to participate (yes i want in) use something the size of between texas or australia. Make sure you think of wether you want a limited war or total war situation.

Also there could be the listing of military units or a limit, some kind of scale or value system maybe, just so no one goes over board and calls in pinpoint nuke strikes or super strike teams. These are only suggestions anyways becuase you dont need to be so detailed.

List of people who've expressed interest:
Templa(Thread Creator) Pop. 640 million
Gruenberg=1st Pop. 433 million
Theao=2nd Pop. 1.561 billion
Jensai=3rd Pop. 637 million
Mahria=4th Pop. 692 million
Rodenka=5th Pop. 332 million
Awestralia=6th Pop. 688 million
No_State_At_All=7th(NFT interest) Pop. 4.724 billion
Psyker Bearzerkers=8th Pop. 7 million

:eek: where have all the other old nations gone????

Woot for Theao’s organizational skills! I like the idea of taking a real-world map and using that. And given the number of interested nations, we should probably divvy up into teams. Personally, I vote for Theao to take charge because I definitely lack experience; add to that a six-day work week and I’d never actually get this started. (Sorry to shove this on you Theao, but you have the prerequisite organization, and I don’t).

Questions before I get to work:
What aprox tech level should I be working for?
How many teams(Should they be aprox pop balance, or numerically(# of nations) balanced)?
Lastly, do you want this to be a Land-Air, or a full theater war(Air, Water, Land, minimal Space(Survallence sats/anti missile sats)?

I'm modern, eventually I'll work my way up into PM. I would vote for a population balance, and I would also vote full theater. As for space, I myself have nothing in the way of orbital weaponry, so I vote surveillence. (Of course, my opinion might be just a bit biased;) ).

Got it. Will be doing it in two formats, depending on wether No_State_At_All still wants to participate, because of the Modern Tech Level.

Next post will have the important info.

If NSAA is in then:

Team 1: NSAA
Team 2: Templa, Gruenberg, Jensai, Mahria
Team 3: Theao, Rodenka, Awestralia, Psyker Bearzerkers
Maps:
Asia: http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/108/map20hh.png (http://imageshack.us)
Europe: http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8593/map17jy.png (http://imageshack.us)
Africa: http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4794/map39dj.png (http://imageshack.us)

If NSAA is out:
Team 1: Templa, Gruenberg, Jensai, Mahria
Team 2: Theao, Rodenka, Awestralia, Psyker Bearzerker
Maps:
Asia: http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/3711/map2a0xl.png (http://imageshack.us)
Europe: http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/1144/map1a7be.png (http://imageshack.us)
Africa: http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/521/map3a9iy.png (http://imageshack.us)

Templa, gets to choose which continental map to use.

Personally, I like both the asia maps. They offer the widest possible variety of terrain. (As part of a military family, I've also lived there so it's practically homefield advantage:D ).

Territory Allotments:
NSAA In:
Asia:
Team 1: Black Area
Team 2: Pale Yellow(Mid-East), Pink, Blue, Green
Team 3: Red, White, Bright Blue, Yellow
Europe:
Team 1: Pale Yellow(Russia)
Team 2: Pink, Blue(Both), Yellow
Team 3: Green, White, Red, Black
Africa:
Team 1: Black Area
Team 2: Pink, Green(Libya), Purple, Blue
Team 3: Pale Blue(Joint ownership Red/White), Red, White, Green(Central Afrrica), Yellow

NSAA Out:
Asia:
Team 1: Both Blues, Green, Pink
Team 2: Black, White, Red, Yellow
Europe:
Team 1: Light Blue, Pink, Yellow, Green
Team 2: Black, White, Red, Blue
Africa:
Team 1: Pink, Blue(both), Green
Team 2: Black, White, Red, Yellow

Personally, I like both the asia maps. They offer the widest possible variety of terrain. (As part of a military family, I've also lived there so it's practically homefield advantage:D ).
Alright, just posted the team areas, if you wish to change your mind. Also we need NSAA to comfirm In or Out.

Sounds good to me. As always, I bow to your organizational skills.

Sounds good to me. As always, I bow to your organizational skills.
While I thank you for your compliment, it's not so much organizational skills as having the right search engine, some time, and seeing peoples RPs crash because they weren't set up in a decent/comprehensive fashion.

If it's alright with Templa, a team of military observers/liaison officers and government agents would like to observe the war games. They would be observers, not participants.


--Saint Fedski

For the final step we need a reason for war(Assassination/Murder/Terrorism/Nuclear Blackmail, Possession(Not to be used) or Ideaologic(Ie: Communism/Capitalism or Christianity/Other Religion ect))
And to get comfirmation of the parties.

??? Unless Theao vetoes it, I don't see why not. Which reminds me, are we gonna start a new thread for the actual games?

I don't have any problems with having observers, as to starting a new thread, that would be advisable, as this one can be used as the ooc thread, while the new one as the ic thread..

This still open? I'm willing to take part on a minor scale.
Hogsweat ( http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=hogsweat)

This still open? I'm willing to take part on a minor scale.
Hogsweat ( http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=hogsweat)
Because you're about the same size as NSAA, it'll depend on wether he participates.

If possible, could I get in on this? I would only deploy a limited number of troops to match my OPFOR.

I believe I'm a little late in the war games, dangit...if not, then I'd like to participate. Lol.

Anywho....if I am, I better start my own soon...

Theao: I think it would be hard for such disparate nations in size and place to find a common reason to go for their guns.

Might I suggest we run a simulation OF a simulation: a group of random military forces doing a massive training exercise. (I'm new at this, and I'd rather not get "really" massacred.)

Theao: I think it would be hard for such disparate nations in size and place to find a common reason to go for their guns.

Might I suggest we run a simulation OF a simulation: a group of random military forces doing a massive training exercise. (I'm new at this, and I'd rather not get "really" massacred.)
It's, if I have it correctly, a pseudo-war, rather than a real war.
Also based on the map Templa wanted, it's essentially a 'World War' based in Asia, if you check the maps it might be clearer.

It's, if I have it correctly, a pseudo-war, rather than a real war.
Also based on the map Templa wanted, it's essentially a 'World War' based in Asia, if you check the maps it might be clearer.

Sorry about the confusion. The stuff you said about reasons for war sounded more "real" (in terms of nationstates roleplay) than it was meant to be, I guess. I understand now.
(And I offer my formal confirmation as part of it.)